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incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 2, 2021 9:25 am

$1 on Deathpicable Dan

hot tip from Daffy Duck

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 2, 2021 9:25 am

The Nordic Doom Goblin and her teen fan club
are wholly dependent upon the largesse of those they condemn.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 2, 2021 9:26 am

Modern data and communication systems need complicated security systems to be installed into buildings and infrastructure

Which leads to IT nerds asserting that they need entirely new systems, plus staff, plus their super and vehicle packages to ensure said systems are compatible with something something. Plus adding on half as much cash again to the price for vanity projects unrelated to the original concept.

The testing process and negotiations are excruciating enough to make you want to build the entire framework with star pickets and duct tape instead.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2021 9:30 am

After 120 years, medals for ‘Breaker’ Morant and mates

Matthew Denholm
Tasmania Correspondent
@MatthewRDenholm
5:59PM November 1, 2021
14 Comments

After an almost 120-year battle, Harry “Breaker” Morant and his co-accused Boer War comrades, Peter Handcock and George Witton, are to posthumously receive military service medals.

Some see the three Australians – convicted in 1902 of shooting Boer prisoners while serving with the British – as scapegoats and ­victims of a miscarriage of justice; others as brutal war criminals.

However, military lawyer James Unkles said no one could deny their earlier meritorious service with Australian colonial military units, and this had been the basis of his successful pursuit of service medals.

“What the critics ignore is that prior to serving with the British contingent (known as) the Bushveldt Carbineers, the three men – like thousands of other volunteers from Australia – joined colonial units,” Mr Unkles said.

“Their service was exemplary and without incident. In fact, ­Morant was promoted to sergeant and was commended by his commanding officer. Hancock and Witton did much the same.

“After 120 years of controversy, it’s time to … recognise the service they rendered through these colonial units. I’m proud I have been able to bring some closure to the descendants on this,” Mr Unkles said, adding military authorities had told him they no longer issued Boer War medals but had offered a pathway to securing them.

“I was directed that if I could satisfy by the service records that they did serve (with the colonial units), then I could approach a commercial supplier and have the medals issued,” he said.

“After a lot of painstaking research on records held in Britain and in Australia, I’ve been able to satisfy their service details for those colonial units. The medals have been produced and a representative from each of the families will receive them.”

Brian Turley, Mr Witton’s great nephew, was on Monday the first to be presented with one of the medals. “It’s been a long time coming,” Mr Turley said.

A solicitor-soldier from NSW, Major J.F. Thomas, was given just one day’s notice to prepare a defence. Morant and Handcock were executed hours after the guilty verdicts. Witton was jailed and ­released four years later.

There is an ongoing campaign for a possible posthumous pardon.

Their story was told in the 1980 film Breaker Morant starring ­Edward Woodward as Morant, Bryan Brown as Handcock, Lewis Fitz-Gerald as Witton and Jack Thompson as Major Thomas.

Relatives of the murdered Boers – two of them were twelve year old boys – were unavailable for comment. “Breaker Morant” was a very good court room drama, but largely fiction. Morant’s own orderly testified to the Court that Morant himself had the murdered Captain Hunt’s uniform, and was, in fact, wearing that uniform at the time the Boer prisoner Visser was shot……

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 2, 2021 9:33 am

Sir TaliDan has also edged out NSW in the most days over 1,000 cases.
33 days to 29.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 9:33 am

Yes, but that’s political.

Everything is political.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 2, 2021 9:36 am

In Casey Jones news:

Malcolm Turnbull@TurnbullMalcolm

Our progress to #GlasgowCop26 is now delayed because trees have fallen over the power lines at Peterborough …..now if we were on train powered by #greenhydrogen we would be on our way! @fortescuefuture @gh2org

Agile Ghost Who Walks.
Glasgow is clearly a safe space for Twiggy Forest enthusiasts.

Mater
November 2, 2021 9:37 am

Another obvious sign of the degeneration of our society is the length of time it takes to do anything.

The old saying; “Shit or get off the pot” might be old and vulgar, but it’s never been more relevant.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 9:44 am

Someone needs to tell Lord Waffleworth it is unseemly to be seeking a liege.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 9:46 am

ABC an endurance event today.

Apparently it will be a renew-balls powered gaiafest with guests back to back, Maocolm “Potential greatness” Turdbull and Peter “spastic flogbag” Garrett.

Tractor Kelly moistening up for Glasgow nicely.

local oaf
November 2, 2021 9:47 am

Some of the mockery of Biden is getting a tad desperate and the Right may be playing it up too much.

He “appeared” to fall asleep, he “allegedly” shit his pants, etc. The nipple fondling video? All these things could be true, but the again video slowed down and repeated can make anything look deliberate.
Although entirely understandable, this stuff is no better than the insane crap pumped out by the left for years about Trump.

Attacks like these will just be used by the left to dismiss all criticism of Biden and make it harder for serious critics to demolish the agenda of Biden puppet masters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 9:49 am

Yep, the ALPBC have got the groupthink turned up to 11,

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 9:50 am

jupessays:

November 2, 2021 at 9:06 am

Another obvious sign of the degeneration of our society is the length of time it takes to do anything

I was thinking exactly that last week.
Went for a drive into Bigtown and got a coffee from a van in the local gardens.
There is an old well which is 100 feet deep and brick lined which has been restored.
The plaque on it said it cost 100 pounds or thereabouts and construction had to be completed within 12 weeks.
Without power tools.
FMD.
They wouldn’t get a preliminary EIS done in 12 weeks now.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 2, 2021 9:51 am

now if we were on train powered by #greenhydrogen we would be on our way!

Once the line was cleared, just like a coal or diesel powered locomotive.

Delta A
Delta A
November 2, 2021 9:55 am

Two and a half minutes of absolute truth

Inspiring stuff, Indolent.

Thanks for posting.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 2, 2021 9:59 am

Biden is on the acetate, time and time again, fondling kids.
The Lizard People will not let you see it on the MSM, and not let it be discussed. The evidence will not be admitted.
Havin’ a laff about him being incontinent as well as a letch, it’s about all we can do.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 10:00 am

Nordic Doom Goblin

Beautifully put.

Megan
Megan
November 2, 2021 10:00 am

I don’t know where I’m actually going with all this but I reckon that unless we get out of this torpor, our civilisation and country is going down big time.

Complete collapse of the power grid or a takeover by China might focus some minds but it will be too late. It will take several more generations born into misery before the will and the capacity to change develops enough momentum.
As johanna said earlier…history provides an easily understood primer on this stuff. But we neither value nor teach it because Safe Schools and similar bloated social nonsense dominate the curriculum and weaken children’s ability to think.

P
P
November 2, 2021 10:04 am

A home away from home
By Debbie Cramsie -November 2, 2021

Ten years to the day Pope Benedict XVI blessed and opened Domus Australia in Rome, Cardinal George Pell celebrated Mass there to mark the milestone.

Cardinal Pell, whose vision it was to have an Australian presence in the Eternal City, took the opportunity to thank the many people, especially those who had been with him since the beginning, who helped make his dream a reality.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 10:04 am

lotocoti

The tree was allegedly (it is Turdball’s version, after all) across the power lines. Not sure if London-Glasgow is electrified, but your point remains valid for a diesel electric locomotive.

Winston Smith
November 2, 2021 10:10 am

Interesting video on the current supply chain issues – essentially a failure on the part of the manufacturing industry to have sufficient stockpiles of critical components.
They do, however, gloss over the regulatory obstacles that prevent the normal supply & demand functions from working – like the Californian EPA rules preventing trucks over 4 years old from moving goods from the docks.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 10:11 am

Leaves on the line or an inch of snow is enough to stop the trains in the UK. They could teach the Sydney Ferries guys a thing or two.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 2, 2021 10:11 am

Some of the mockery of Biden is getting a tad desperate and the Right may be playing it up too much.

Yeah, nah.
Sometimes too much is never enough.

Rabz
November 2, 2021 10:16 am

Sloppy, sloppy reporting (again) courtesy of reuters and the ALPBC – on the topic of protecting forests as announced at the Glasgow Gaia Gimpfest:

backed by the leaders of countries including Brazil, Indonesia and the Democratic Republic of Congo, which collectively account for 85% of the world’s forests

The three countries named above actually account for the grand total of 17.5% of the world’s forests, according the FAO. So why single them out as to sound as though they have 85%?

97% of everything announced in Glasgow during COPOUT26 will be complete and utter bullshit, of that we can be certain.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 10:16 am

Relatives of the murdered Boers – two of them were twelve year old boys

They were terrorists. Fighting for a noble cause, but with desperate tactics.

The Boer War was immoral, no doubt, but the British High Command gave orders they were publicly ashamed of, were fighting assymetrical warfare and coming from the Colonel Blimp/Buy Your Commission era, could not bring themselves to fall on their swords.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 10:16 am

That the education system reinforces this so strongly, by indoctrinating every single child, makes it even harder for the newest generations to mentally escape. It’s as crazy as the Xhosa when they killed all their cattle on say so of a teenage prophetess. Whereupon they starved. We again have a teenage prophetess, and the movement she represents is also crazy and Malthusian.

Bruce of Newc at 8.34. Worth repeating.

It used to be Johnny Ray (early 50’s) or the Beatles (the sixties) where adolescent girls and some adolescent boys went orgasmic and hysterical over whatever. This also happened in Germany (over Hitler) and in Communist China (over Mao). Now this hormonal excess is turned to other fantasies – about changing gender or about imminent extinction. What was that the Greens leader here said recently about the climate ‘cooking’ the children? Children believe this, they are quite literal beings. That we have allowed a cult ideology to take over what is taught to children in our schools is a lesson about duty of care that we have to learn all over again.

We protect children for a reason. They are vulnerable.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2021 10:18 am

‘Malcom Turnbull says PM should apologise to French’

Nobody cares, Malcolm.

The ABC only publishes the mutterings of your revenge addled mind to needle SloMo.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 10:18 am

Malcolm Turnbull@TurnbullMalcolm
Our progress to #GlasgowCop26 is now delayed because trees have fallen over the power lines at Peterborough

Haha, it must suck not to be a billionaire.

Bezos Leads Parade Of 400 Private Jets To COP26 With $65M Gulfstream As Greta Accuses Leaders Of Betrayal (1 Nov)

Also the Teslas are being powered by diesel generators, and the Israeli delegate couldn’t get onto the green bus because she’s in a wheelchair.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 10:21 am

The ALPBC have always been Malcolm’s 2nd biggest fan.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2021 10:24 am

“Some of the mockery of Biden is getting a tad desperate and the Right may be playing it up too much.”

Nope…Sniffer has a very complaint and subservient MSM to cover for him and cover they do. If mockery of the Sniffer was to ever reach Trumpian levels…and it won’t….I might have some sympathy for the Sniffer. Until then…..NO.

BTW……in Rome on the weekend Sniffer made a comment, when introducing Blinken, about “the trains running on time”. Now imagine the mockery, the screams, the smears, the ridicule and the labels of fascist, Nazi et al if Trump had used those words? The MSM duly covered up that faux pas by the Sniffer.

There’s nothing desperate about calling out a senile, decrepit old man who was used as a tool by the Demonrats to conduct a coup last year.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2021 10:24 am

That we have allowed a cult ideology to take over what is taught to children in our schools is a lesson about duty of care that we have to learn all over again.

It didn’t happen overnight.

It’s been generations in the making.

And the chief problem isn’t the cult ideology, it’s the elevation of the state over the family.

Observe what’s happening in the US, where concerned parents opposed to aspects of the curriculum are being deemed to be terrorists.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 10:26 am

The Boer War was immoral

There’s nothing worse than bad timing. If the Boers had waited 40-50 years they’d now have a nation, nuclear weapons and be the industrial dynamo of Africa.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 2, 2021 10:26 am

Another obvious sign of the degeneration of our society is the length of time it takes to do anything.
Along with the things he’s doing with SpaceX, that this doesn’t have to be like that may be another of Elon Musk’s great contributions.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 10:26 am

In a just world the “father” of this poor girl would be half time entertainment at the MCG or Melbourne cup in the first annual “smeared in BBQ sauce and given a burnt stick to fend off a mob of boars who havent been fed for 2 weeks” cup.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-01/perth-mother-jailed-after-girl-almost-dies-of-gonorrhoea/100586208

And the mother, i dont know what you do with something like that.

The 34-year-old woman, who cannot be named to protect the identity of her daughter, was first told in 2016 by the then six-year-old child that she had been molested by her stepfather.

On Monday the District Court of WA was told the child also disclosed the abuse to other relatives who reported it to police and the man was charged.
He was granted bail with conditions he not contact the child but, after denying the allegations to the woman, she let him move back into the family’s home and he was left unsupervised with the girl.

His abuse of the girl escalated, and while the mother accepted she had a suspicion it was happening, she claimed she did not realise the extent of it until her daughter, who by then was eight years old, was taken to hospital by relatives and diagnosed with gonorrhoea.


The girl had complained weeks earlier of having a sore tummy and feeling sick but medical help was not sought and, by the time she was admitted to hospital, the infection was life-threatening.

Her mother has pleaded guilty to a charge of engaging in conduct knowing that it may result in a child suffering harm as a result of sexual abuse, and one count of attempting to defeat the course of justice.

The second charge related to the woman asking her daughter to recant the allegation she made in 2016 – which she did – that led to the first set of charges against the man being dropped.
……
udge Vernon sentenced the woman to five years and six months’ jail.

She will have to serve three years and six months before she will be eligible for parole and, with time already served, she will first be eligible for release in late 2024.

Her former partner pleaded guilty to six charges and was initially sentenced to nine years’ jail last year.

However, the state lodged an appeal and the term was later increased to 12 years.

Poor kid.
https://funnyjunk.com/Punisher+vs+a+pedophile/nDudMaQ/

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 2, 2021 10:26 am

Rabz, the cub reporterette might have left out the “third world equatorial rain” qualifier for “forests”. They make all the oxygen come out again and have primates and potential cures for cancer in them, so they’re the only ones that count, don’tcha know.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 2, 2021 10:27 am

“Western civilisation has degenerated into a weak, pathetic, immoral shell of its former glory.”

Correct….and what has caused this degeneration? The collapse of religion, the sexual revolution, economic affluence, feminism and socialism.

The rise of bureaucracy is a big factor.

.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 2, 2021 10:28 am

There’s nothing worse than bad timing. If the Boers had waited 40-50 years they’d now have a nation, nuclear weapons and be the industrial dynamo of Africa.

Didn’t they kind of end up with that by 1990?
Then again there’s S.M.Stirling’s Draka (shudder).

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 10:29 am

I wasn’t asking for anyone to feel guilty about the tonnes of garbage tossed around in our environment and washed up in our waterways and on our beaches. It’s my bugbear – it doesn’t have to be yours. And having visited many places in the third world – it’s dialled up to eleventy there.

My point was that bending over and picking sh*t up was a proper starting point rather than worrying about changing the temperature.

Many…many comments on SincCat talked about the problems of food adulteration, from soy to corn syrup and what effects that may have on testosterone levels, amongst other things. There has also been some discussion about microplastic and other chemicals that find their way into the food chain and ultimately…us. That was where my “physiological” comment was directed. And that ridiculous food pyramid.

The clown show in Glasgow can yap all they want about “da planet”, they are world class humbugs and grifters to a man. They need to prepare their dinners over a cow pat fire – that’s cheap energy right there.

Winston Smith
November 2, 2021 10:29 am

Top Ender:

There was a survey done some years back of teenagers, about what they wanted to be in later life. Lotsa loaded words such as “generous” and “educated” and so on.
A majority of them wanted to be “rich” and “famous”.

I forget who does it, there’s a list of professions etc ranking by trust each year.
This years will be a doozy – I predict Used Car Dealers in the top 5.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 10:30 am

If the Queen can’t stay on the throne until she’s 120, republic now, please.

Does that mean Peter Fitzsimian for President?

Probably. So I am not letting King Charles get in the way of the Monarchical principle in spite of his egregious beliefs and behaviour. I expect my government to sit down hard on any King who exceeds his remit by talking politics. Very very soon it should be clear enough to Charles that he is doing just that because the people of Britain, suffering from green ideologies more than most, will be howling for his head. Kings reign by popular assent, and if they don’t then the people turn their backs.

A popular movement for Princess Anne to succeed her mother would go down well. Just legislate to change the date of the female succession, as the legislation already exists for it. A little flexibility, allowing choice, would be no bad thing anyway, so that the Royals would have to prove their worth to be considered. It used to be that way: King Alfred was not in direct line, but rose above is brother’s son.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 10:35 am

Another obvious sign of the degeneration of our society is the length of time it takes to do anything.

Yep. We are on a planet sized B Ark.

Every ticket must be clipped, every useless degree must be justified by an equally useless jerb.

The number of people who actually do anything remotely useful must be comparatively miniscule.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 10:35 am

Most people’s children are geniuses in primary school. And then they grow up. The world won’t run out of garbos and used car salesmen any time soon.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 10:37 am

The rise of bureaucracy is a big factor.

Paying pubic serpents as though they actually produce items of value was the start of it.

We actually send most of out ‘best and brightest” to be indoctrinated that a career in managing, not doing is the highest calling.
That and the cult of “not for profits”.

We have also somehow managed to get into the position where previously PS jobs were poorly paid drudge work but secure to where they are just as secure, but are commanding “professional” wages over and above those they ‘manage”.

Hordes of wankers on 6 figures paid for by the toil of those whos take home is in the 5 figures.

$400,000 to be the ‘CEO” of a large council in WA FFS.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 2, 2021 10:38 am

‘Malcom Turnbull says PM should apologise to French’

Nobody cares, Malcolm.

Christmas has come early for Malcom.

– A relevance event to attend;
– Climate credentials being burnished in the Love Media;
– Morrison’s ample arse bared for a public kicking;
– An opportunity to defend his submarine legacy;
– A clutch of billionaires to fondle.

Good times.
Happy times.

local oaf
November 2, 2021 10:39 am

There’s nothing desperate about calling out a senile, decrepit old man who was used as a tool by the Demonrats to conduct a coup last year.

I just think we’re in danger of focussing too much on his obvious personal faults and not enough on the deliberate destruction of America being enacted by the people operating him.

It appears that they’re trying to inflict as much damage as possible, as quickly as possible – hoping that it can never be overturned in the future. You know, the way Trump overturned Barry’s wonderful “achievements”.
They’re using the senile old man to front the wrecking, then he’ll be shunted off into a nursing home and someone ostensibly more with it will step in and pretend to steady the ship. Sadly of course, wrecked will be the new normal.

Changing it will be declared impossible , just like turning back the boats was declared impossible by labor here.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 10:39 am

The number of people who actually do anything remotely useful must be comparatively miniscule.

It always has been. I made a fairly comfortable living but the world would not have noticed if I never existed at all. I suspect this is the same for most people.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 10:40 am

I doubt Prince Charles will be crowned Charles III.

He most likely will assume a middle name, George VII being the favourite.

As you all know, his grandfather was crowned George VI, rather than Albert I. King Bertie just doesn’t sound right, does it? 😀

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2021 10:41 am

“My point was that bending over and picking sh*t up was a proper starting point rather than worrying about changing the temperature.”

I would agree with that. Very Jordan Peterson…….everything starts with basics, make your bed, tidy your room, pick up sh*t, don’t waste food, all things most people once did. It was called being thrifty and frugal…..attributes which are now very undervalued and misunderstood. Being thrifty and frugal isn’t being mean…it’s about conserving, making much out of little and making things last. I regard thriftiness and frugality as two very good things to be. Young people nowadays have no idea about either.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2021 10:45 am

“I just think we’re in danger of focussing too much on his obvious personal faults and not enough on the deliberate destruction of America being enacted by the people operating him”

Disagree. So where has turning the other cheek played out well for the right? No where. For four years Trump was assaulted and assailed with smears, ridicule and bile. Time to throw it back.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 10:46 am

Gruinaid busy helping the junior pioneers rat out the wreckers and saboteurs among us.

Australians fired for refusing Covid vaccine search social media for ‘welcoming’ employers
People turn to Telegram and Facebook to find jobs as mandates bite

Unvaccinated Australians who have lost their jobs for refusing to comply with Covid vaccine mandates are using social media to find and share employment opportunities at workplaces where the new rules are not being enforced.

Telegram and Facebook have had an influx of people searching for paid jobs after states and territories implemented mandates covering a range of industries from health and aged care workers, teachers and police to construction and hospitality workers.

On some job boards, businesses that are happy to accept unvaccinated people advertise that they are “welcoming of everyone”.

Beauty therapists, childcare workers, disability support workers and accountants are among 20,000 people who are members of the largest group for unvaccinated jobseekers in Australia.


Steve, who did not give his last name, runs Get it Fast Auto Glass in Sunshine. He has been advertising his company on a directory of businesses not requiring staff or clients to be vaccinated.

The only other staff member is his wife, and he said he would tell his customers he was unvaccinated if they asked.
“I’m not against vaccines, I’m against people making me do it,” Steve said. “I don’t like someone getting forced to do it.”

The managing principal of FCW Lawyers, Andrew Douglas, said if an industry fell under a government mandate, it was not possible to challenge it.*
..

Another emerging issue for employees who are vaccinated is whether they feel safe working alongside those who have not got the jab, said an associate lecturer in law at Monash University, Liam Elphick.**

“Employers have obligations under work safety laws to prevent against workplace risk, not just address it when it happens,” Elphick said.

Covid safety was likely to become “the main arena” of disputes going forward, he said, as vaccinated employees made sure all the necessary checks and balances, including vaccines, were put in place.

“Anyone has the ability to raise concerns about an unsafe workplace,” he said.

*Tyranny it is then.
Pure unadulterated tyranny.
** Obviously law, and not medicine or even “checking the latest news”, because the vaccinated can pass it on as well you fucktard.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 10:47 am

It always has been.

Not really. Before the industrial revolution, and even after it, people did real work. Every person was important and the job they did formed part of the village, city or country’s capital. Sure, you had your super elites in the form of royal families and their satellites, but the vast number of the population were workers, producing something of value.

When all you do is consume without producing you become fat and flabby in body and mind. And probably spirit as well. Everyone needs to value themselves and what they do.

Trouble is they are now searching for outside validation from others because they know deep down their work, such as it is, is rubbish. So we get the rise of the “you go girl” and the cult of celebrity and every other malformation of assigning worth to worthlessness.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 10:48 am

lotocotisays:

November 2, 2021 at 9:25 am

The Nordic Doom Goblin …

Correct weight declared.
Lotocoti wins the internets for today.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 2, 2021 10:51 am

Another obvious sign of the degeneration of our society is the length of time it takes to do anything.

Along with the things he’s doing with SpaceX, that this doesn’t have to be like that may be another of Elon Musk’s great contributions.

Not always the biggest fan of Showman Musk – but this is a very good point.

He provides a large-scale contrast between a group of smart, well organised individuals, operating with a clear common purpose – and churning efforts hobbled by Big Government dronery.

rickw
rickw
November 2, 2021 10:53 am

The rise of bureaucracy is a big factor.

Jobs for useless people that slow everyone else down.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2021 10:54 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 10:56 am

Then again there’s S.M.Stirling’s Draka (shudder).

Eyrie, if you haven’t ever read A Small Colonial War by Robert Frezza you have been missing something epic. Afrikaans, Finno-Russian and Japanese culture clash. Just wonderful military SF. It’s a trilogy so get the lot.

I read one of the Drakka series and I don’t think I finished it. Too dark. Frezza’s ones aren’t at all like Stirling’s.

(The paperback has bad glue and falls apart, there’s no Kindle version although there appears to be a PDF version downloadable. Don’t know if it is kosher but. Worth persevering though, marvelous story.)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 10:58 am

Not down on Stirling though. I love The General series he wrote with David Drake. It’s awesome.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2021 10:59 am

Trouble is they are now searching for outside validation from others because they know deep down their work, such as it is, is rubbish. So we get the rise of the “you go girl” and the cult of celebrity and every other malformation of assigning worth to worthlessness.

Cf. David Riesman’s classic sociological study ‘The Lonely Crowd’ (1950).

You might even say he predicted where we have ended up, esp. with the power of social media over the ‘other-directed’ mass of individuals who validate their lives by conforming to the views of the dominant social group. Explains why there is so little genuine questioning and dissent among young people. Corporate and political interests looking to make fortunes by “greening” Western economies have proven quite adept at exploiting this, the “Nordic doom goblin” being a case in point.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 2, 2021 11:00 am

I regard thriftiness and frugality as two very good things to be.

I said something similar here and was reproached, by dot iirc, for not throwing things away fast enough.

It’s a variant of the broken window fallacy.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:03 am

I said something similar here and was reproached, by dot iirc, for not throwing things away fast enough

???

I am not sure I would have said that.

Throw things out as they need to be. Too quick and too slow are sub-optimal. Nothing wrong with mending things.

“Oh I was talking about the necessity of Tamponus Rex, as to avert Primus Consul Fitzsimian I…”

I can’t roll my eyes back far enough.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:05 am

Probably. So I am not letting King Charles get in the way of the Monarchical principle in spite of his egregious beliefs and behaviour. I expect my government to sit down hard on any King who exceeds his remit by talking politics.

You are in la la land. Only the Brits get to decide through Parliament.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 11:06 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

November 2, 2021 at 9:21 am

Sports lawyer Paul Horvath, who has represented swimmer Shayna Jack and Essendon’s Mark Thompson through the Essendon saga

Geez, didn’t that go well for Our Shayna and Bomber. Both walked out of that unscathed, thanks to sports lawyers.

I have sent Gordon G. Toey’s lawyers a statement to read in court.
It starts with, “You have no standing” and ends with a resounding “Begone!”.
Should get him 12 months in Rikers.

MatrixTransform
November 2, 2021 11:06 am

and what has caused this degeneration? The collapse of religion, the sexual revolution, economic affluence, feminism and socialism.

at the core of all of these is a pernicious marxism

woven in as soon as they’re captured by the edumication system

it is the weft to your warp

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 11:07 am

I doubt Prince Charles will be crowned Charles III.
He most likely will assume a middle name, George VII being the favourite.

That won’t go down well because he’ll be seen to be exploiting his grandson.
Perhaps since he’d be the first green King he could adopt the name Shrek I.
Calling himself King Shrek would be usefully distinctive. Camilla can be Donkey.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 11:07 am

Thriftiness is a mindset of creativity. How to do things better, more economically. That’s how inventors invent.

Wastefulness is just garbage production.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2021 11:08 am

They were terrorists. Fighting for a noble cause, but with desperate tactics.

All but two of those “terrorists” were what the Boers contemptuously called “Handsoppers.” They were obeying British injunctions to surrender themselves to the nearest British unit, take the oath of allegiance to the British Crown, go home, and take no futher part in the fighting. The “Bushveldt Carbineers were not the colonial version of the Special Air Service Regiment depicted in the film – they were a mounted constabulary, along the lines of the RCMP, formed to accept the Boer surrenders, and escort them to the nearest British Provost Marshall…

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 2, 2021 11:09 am

Throw things out as they need to be. Too quick and too slow are sub-optimal. Nothing wrong with mending things.

I think it was my approval of the Cuban habit of refilling cigarette lighters that you objected to, dot.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 11:10 am

DrBeauGan says:
November 2, 2021 at 11:00 am

I regard thriftiness and frugality as two very good things to be.

I said something similar here and was reproached, by dot iirc, for not throwing things away fast enough.

It’s a variant of the broken window fallacy.

It is a consequence of capitalism. By definition, if you make profit from selling things, you make no profit when you sell nothing. Therefore it behoves you to ensure that demand for your product never dies out. One way to do that is to ensure that the product breaks after years of usage. Thus we get products that are not crafted to last, instead they have designed obsolescence. Thus the throw away society.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 11:10 am

It is the ultimate ironing that FitzSimian will probably realise his Republican dream the moment the jug-eared green loon takes the throne.
The one most likely to interfere in political matters to save da planet.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 2, 2021 11:14 am

Is it just me, or does Dom sound exactly like Dan now?
My wife was watching some press conference on her phone when I entered the room, and I was 100% sure the voice was Dan’s. But apparently not. It was Dom. We were still hoping that NSW will keep 1st of Dec as promised, but alas, not going to happen. And boosters are go.
Nowhere to run.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:22 am

I think it was my approval of the Cuban habit of refilling cigarette lighters that you objected to, dot.

Huh? I own Zippos and Saromes myself.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:23 am

It is a consequence of capitalism. By definition, if you make profit from selling things, you make no profit when you sell nothing.

Please don’t be dumb. The communists never threw anything away?

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:24 am

John of Melsays:
November 2, 2021 at 11:14 am
Is it just me, or does Dom sound exactly like Dan now?
My wife was watching some press conference on her phone when I entered the room, and I was 100% sure the voice was Dan’s. But apparently not. It was Dom. We were still hoping that NSW will keep 1st of Dec as promised, but alas, not going to happen. And boosters are go.
Nowhere to run.

WTF?

Link please.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 2, 2021 11:25 am

“I just think we’re in danger of focussing too much on his obvious personal faults and not enough on the deliberate destruction of America being enacted by the people operating him”

The latter is the real issue, but we no longer have a population in the habit of taking time to understand things like that, and it will be a long time before we’re able to rectify that.
In the meantime politics gets won or lost by the soundbite.

Fauci funded the Wuhan labs’ “gain of function” work, with tens of millions of deaths the result, but that hasn’t stopped vast numbers of Americans worshipping him. He’s in far more danger from the revelation that a few beagles suffered from his “experiments”. Don’t get me wrong, if the reports about the beagle experiments are accurate that should be enough for him to be hideously, slowly and publicly tortured to death as an awful warning, but the fact is that objectively that’s less of a reason to sack him than Wuhan, but it’s the one it’s easy to get time-poor members of the public riled about.

So when opportunities to ridicule the senile old pedo crop up it would be folly in practical political terms not to exploit them to the full. Keep working at informing the public about illegal immigrant crime rates, energy vulnerability, rigged elections etc., but when the hair sniffer shits his daks in front of the pope, pump out the memes!

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 11:28 am

calli says at 10:47
It always has been.
Not really.

Yes I guess if you are involved in subsistence farming or some variation of it that is true. Looking at history I am pleased we have moved on from there – my own efforts suggest I would have perished anyway. It is still about with the thinking unless you make (manufacture) something you aren’t doing a “real” job.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 11:29 am

ABCcess doing a classic bait and switch interview.
2 racing people on, one a sports writer cant remember the other one.
2 questios in and Fran “Im and activist” Kelly drops “there will be protesters outside the cup today”*, 4th question and we away in the animal liberation handicap event.

Is there any topic where you will be surprised by the ABCcessess position on an issue?
Anything at all?

*I actually thought an anti vax protest might be covered.. foolish me

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 2, 2021 11:34 am

The next wave of freedoms were not expected to come into force until December 1 but Dominic Perrottet said that would be shifted to Monday, November 8 for fully vaccinated residents.

Unvaccinated people will now have to wait until the state achieves its 95 per cent double dose target, or December 15 – whichever comes first.

“We are on track to do it. It is one last push and I believe that we can get to that 95 per cent mark, plus a strong booster program,” he said.

I’m still sure what the unvaxxed will be allowed to do from 15th of Dec, but I don’t think it will be much. Will unvaxxed kids be allowed at schools? Will I be allowed to work? I doubt that. Especially in light of “a strong booster program”.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:34 am

FMS

Who even is the Premier?

Chant or Perrotett.

Just weak as piss.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 11:36 am

Please don’t be dumb. The communists never threw anything away?

Nice strawman. We are discussing capitalism and it’s rubbish. If you were confident in capitalism, you would have replied that the rubbish would eventually create a market in recovered materials. This would enable startups to recycle the rubbish to manufacturers as raw materials. This is indeed happening to some extent.
However, most economic systems fail at recycling, because the price to extract new materials is cheaper than the price to extract materials from rubbish. Thus rubbish expands. It will take a RULER to mandate that materials are to be recovered from rubbish regardless of the price. This price differential is present regardless of whether this is a capitalist system or a communist system or any other system.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:36 am

Never forget what they have taken away from us.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:38 am

So what? We’re better off having some stuff recycled and some stuff buried or sent into the sun.

Get over it.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 11:38 am

lol so my original instinct was correct: Perrotet is an isolated puppet and has no power.

Rabz
November 2, 2021 11:44 am

Unvaccinated people will now have to wait until the state achieves its 95 per cent double dose target, or December 15 – whichever comes first.

Grate – thanks, you f*cking fascist arseholes.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 11:44 am

In one of her last press conferences as Queensland’s chief health officer, Jeanette Young said double dosed COVID-19 patients would most likely be able to stay at home and recover being managed through a “virtual ward” rather than be forced to go to hospital.

“forced to go to hospital”.

I didn’t realise that was even happening in QLD.

And your warning, capitulators who foolishly thought “two jabs” and this would be over:

We are assuming everyone who is vaccinated will be up for a booster but some may not want that.

This is never going to be over.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 2, 2021 11:44 am

Unfortunately oceanofpdf.com doesn’t have “A Small Colonial War”.
Lots of other stuff though including old Heinlein and Poul Anderson and lots more. Thanks to whoever linked that site.
Then get Calibre which converts epub format to Kindle or other formats. Works great.
BoN I’m guessing you started the Draka trilogy with the middle one “Under the Yoke”. The last one, “The Stone Dogs” has a nice tribute to Poul Anderson, who did some mentoring of S.M. Stirling, at the end. He’s the Captain of the Starship the remnants of the North Americans flee in.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 11:47 am

In one of her last press conferences as Queensland’s chief health officer, Jeanette Young said double dosed COVID-19 patients would most likely be able to stay at home and recover being managed through a “virtual ward” rather than be forced to go to hospital.

Wouldn’t you want people actually staying at home? Hospitals are literal petri dishes. Your home doesn’t need deep cleaning for golden staph.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 11:48 am

We’re better off having some stuff recycled and some stuff buried or sent into the sun.

Exactly. Or it can be burned, if possible, for energy creation.

Bear, I wasn’t lauding subsistence farming. How could I, when a few comments before I wanted the charlatans at Glasgow cooking over cow pats? Although a few weeks of that wouldn’t hurt them.

I was talking about the substitution of real work for make-work, and the culture of adoration and dependency around the latter. Which is leading our western civilisation, such as it is, into a useless cul de sac of worthlessness.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 11:48 am

I see the standard of trolls isn’t improving. A RULER to raise the rate of recycling. Chairman Dan would be licking his lips. Only for the double vaxxed of course.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 11:49 am

Super duper ABC expert “University of Queensland virologist Kirsty Short” explains that they have absolutely no idea what in the hell these vaccines actually do, now what they’re doing.

there were no clear answers on fully vaccinated infectious people being forced to stay at home.

But again I think we need more data on how to ascertain what the actual risk is for the fully vaccinated.

“You look at the situation of boosters for every member of the population and that is going to change how the vaccine works and the efficacy of it,” she said.

You look at the situation of boosters for every member of the population

But what we do not know is how long that lasts.

Oh my sides. Paging Dr Notafan!

shatterzzz
November 2, 2021 11:51 am

Sooooo Parrot-head has pushed the un-vaxxed release date out to 15 December as an incentive to get jabbed cos sooo many are taking up the offer & he/we is close to 95% and it’ll go all the quicker if! ..
Well, you’ve convinced me, Parrot-head .. I’m sure it’s more about the science than a threat .. sooo ..
I WILL NEVER, EVER take The JAB but thanx for the offer .. LOL!

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 11:52 am

“We are on track to do it. It is one last push and I believe that we can get to that 95 per cent mark, plus a strong booster program,” he said.

Then what Service NSW sent me this morning was a blatant lie.

They said that “boosters” would not be mandatory.

We are governed by fiends.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 11:55 am

Farmer Gez – I’m putting $10 each way on Phar Lap. It looked good on the News last night.

Is Roger Moore riding?

bespoke
bespoke
November 2, 2021 11:55 am

DrBeauGansays:
November 2, 2021 at 11:00 am
I regard thriftiness and frugality as two very good things to be.

I said something similar here and was reproached, by dot iirc, for not throwing things away fast enough.

Do you still have those toys from Taiwan and Japan made from recycled war materials?

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 11:55 am

So what? We’re better off having some stuff recycled and some stuff buried or sent into the sun.

Yes I agree Dot.
For some things obsolescence is vital. It creates an evolutionary life cycle for the product. But on the whole it is terribly wasteful.
The rubbish that is to be recycled, has to be broken down to it’s raw elements before it can be re-used in modern production systems. It takes energy to do that. Then you have to use energy to re-assemble the raw products into the base materials to be fed into the production system.
The Enviro-genociders cannot see this simple fact. At our current level of materials processing, the best we can do is to burn the rubbish and collect the burnt products for either reuse or burial.
If you want craftsmanship or long lived products, you either have to take profit and costs out of the equation, or pay an enormous amount of money for the product. This is makes it beyond the ability of the system to provide these types of products to everyone.
This means that our civilisation has to come to terms with is rubbish and how to deal with it.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 11:56 am

So I’ve avoided Covid news for a week, and I come back and find out everywhere from the ABC to news.com.au happily explaining that the vaccines that people literally are still getting right now under the duress and promise of ‘two jabs and this is all over’ are basically shit, nothing like as promised, and everyone will have to get another one in a couple of months.

Obviously they’ve moved well into the ‘booster’ phase of the ‘roadmap’ – where they happily now explain the vaccine is shit, they have no idea about whether it actually works or not, so you better get another ‘jab’ because this time what The Data Says is right – forget last time.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 11:58 am

Some good news.

Experimental depression treatment is nearly 80% effective in controlled study (1 Nov)

I am not a sufferer, but it’s a bugger of an ailment, so a new treatment which works would be very welcome.

Vicki
Vicki
November 2, 2021 12:02 pm

Very disheartened to hear that Perrotet has abandoned his intention to release the unvaccinated from bondage.

What price was exacted for the Premiership?

Is there no integrity left in this age of fear, ignorance & the naked wielding of power?

I listened this morning, with great sadness, as a tearful unvaccinated friend told me of the cruelty of erstwhile friends & the difficulty of living with conviction in this age of convenience. She weeps a lot, she said, & worries about her stress levels. I told her I also weep. A vaccinated granddaughter now has a blood disorder & I am worried sick.

But, in a moment of bravado, I told her “you and I were born for this”…….don’t let the bastards get you down……. .

Razey
Razey
November 2, 2021 12:03 pm

Vickisays:
November 2, 2021 at 12:02 pm
Very disheartened to hear that Perrotet has abandoned his intention to release the unvaccinated from bondage.

The unvax’d will never be released.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 12:04 pm

This means that our civilisation has to come to terms with is rubbish and how to deal with it.

We have, you’re having an existential crisis.

If you want craftsmanship or long lived products, you either have to take profit and costs out of the equation, or pay an enormous amount of money for the product. This is makes it beyond the ability of the system to provide these types of products to everyone.

We have millions complex machines (cars) that are very, useful, safe, affordable and reliable.

The same goes for personal computers and phones.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 12:05 pm

If you want craftsmanship or long lived products, you either have to take profit and costs out of the equation, or pay an enormous amount of money for the product

Attempts to build in disposal costs (eg motor oil, tyres and building materials) create black markets and illegal dumping.

Again, markets and prices are the best way to resolve the question.

Zipster
Zipster
November 2, 2021 12:07 pm

But again I think we need more data on how to ascertain what the actual risk is for the fully vaccinated.

this word vaccinates, I don’t think you are using it in the traditional sense at all

Zipster
Zipster
November 2, 2021 12:08 pm

autocorrect strikes again

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 12:09 pm

I see the standard of trolls isn’t improving. A RULER to raise the rate of recycling. Chairman Dan would be licking his lips. Only for the double vaxxed of course.

Sorry Bear, I did not make myself clear on this idea.
There is no way a economic system would, by itself, advocate recycling. The costs of recovery of the raw materials from rubbish to a state that they can be re-used in our modern materials production would be added to the costs of turning those raw materials into products.
As it seems we are not about to run out of raw materials any time soon, that would impose a double cost on the raw input materials.
If you wanted to re-use rubbish in the production cycle, it must be imposed on the economic system. Thus some form of RULER.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 12:16 pm

I know someone who had MS and they refused to discuss their adverse reaction to a COVID vaccine because she didn’t want her sister in law telling her “I told you so”.

Australians are not cut out to resist tyranny.

There are too many people complying.

Who knows what else they can pull off without actual resistance.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 12:17 pm

Sorry Bear, I did not make myself clear on this idea.
There is no way a economic system would, by itself, advocate recycling. The costs of recovery of the raw materials from rubbish to a state that they can be re-used in our modern materials production would be added to the costs of turning those raw materials into products.

Apologies I may have jumped the gun. It seems that what you are talking about is relative prices, ie the cost of disposing of stuff is too low. That, essentially, is a value judgement and, as Dot argues there is much to suggest it is about right for most people. Sending plastics to China for “recycling” suggests like any system there is scope for gaming.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 12:18 pm

Attempts to build in disposal costs (eg motor oil, tyres and building materials) create black markets and illegal dumping.

Again, markets and prices are the best way to resolve the question.

So you are saying that the market will bypass the re-cycle mandates. I agree, ergo the requirement for a RULER of some sort to impose on the market. Also, the market is not the best way to resolve the question. The market is the best way to resolve the price of a item, and I have shown that re-cycle costs will always be more than dig it up costs.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 12:19 pm

You think stuff MUST be recycled, so it justifies force.

Just like coomplying mandatory jabber.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 12:23 pm

It’s outstanding that in the very same article, you’ll have it being overtly explained that they have no idea about these flash new ‘vaccines’ – to cover the explanation about why you now need to get more ‘vaccine’ (we’re still finding out what they do!), but also have them authoritatively explaining that the next ‘jab’ is definitely 115% effective, and completely safe because they know everything about the vaccines.

So apparently Australian Science!(tm), according to themselves, literally didn’t ‘know’ that the vaccine only lasts for six months until now, even though the vaccines have been around for over twelve months and six months ago I was on the old Catallaxyfiles saying they only last for six months because that’s what every country ahead of us was saying.

Here’s the truth: They do know. They all knew everything at the start of the year. The vaccines don’t work as promised – nowhere near, they don’t last for more than a few months, and they require the population to be forcefully addicted to boosters forever to be ‘effective’ in terms of ‘living with’ covid. And here’s the greatest truth of all: they aren’t even vaccines by any definition of the word, these injections are simply relabeled extremely short term preventative treatments that work at varying levels of effectiveness.

In Australia the last 11 months has been the greatest organised conspiracy to present a single orchestrated and carefully crafted version of propagandised reality to an unwitting populace since WW2. Because we’re talking wartime effort levels here – between the Australian government, Science (same thing), and ‘media’ in Australia to not only present a single unified message, but to deliberately not talk about foreign affairs until the Right Time (70% talk about ‘freedom’, 80% talk about ‘mandates’, 90% talk about ‘boosters for life’) . The goal was 95% percent injections and vaccine passports. That was always the target, that is what they’ve promised to Pfizer, Astra and the WHO, and that is what they were going to get to no matter what happened overseas or what they ‘found out’ about the vaccines in the meantime. It’s 95% or bust. It’s vaccine passports and ‘boosters’ or nothing. It’s a digital id and transformation of the economy and society into a medical controlled spiders web that you cannot move in lest you find yourself alerting the attention of the spider and down it comes upon your head and wraps you up and whisks you away.

rosie
rosie
November 2, 2021 12:23 pm

I see my request to not be addressed by the yappy chihuahua is being ignored.

And I’ll point out that unlike many others I’ve never offered medical advice here, just said I’m not going to run around with my hair on fire about boosters or make morbid speculations about side effects.
And with only months to live or seventeen months to three years eleven months according to Emeritus professor Sir Doctor St Ruth qc mp and bar feels on a particular day, why would I?

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 12:25 pm

Suggestion, you really are a first rate imbecile and that’s the reason you’re frequently advocating who should and shouldn’t post here. You’re embarrassed by your own stupidity and I don’t blame you. You shouldn’t be because you’re another low IQ moron and can’t help it.

Industrial civilization is a series of stages that cannot be viewed in a linear fashion. Let’s say garbage has doubled – trebled even. In 1998, the Economist ran a piece which said that since modern history, the total of accumulated landfill around the world was 30 miles long, three miles wide and 1 mile deep. Who gives a shit even if it’s quadrupled? It has next to no impact on the world.

You mention that modern civilization doesn’t cater for recycling/cleaning. Yes, it fucking does, you complete twat. It’s an expense… a luxury item that is demanded with higher living standards. Truly, you’re a single dimensional goose who shows no ability to think. Shut up.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 12:27 pm

Dot:
We have millions complex machines (cars) that are very, useful, safe, affordable and reliable.

The same goes for personal computers and phones.

Yes, but none of them last for 80 years do they? As such they are wasteful. We could design such products, but they require design languages would have to include the ability to upgrade components. We used to do this for computers, but even they have succumbed, and increasingly are available as a single unmodifiable unit.

HD
HD
November 2, 2021 12:27 pm

Dotsays:
November 2, 2021 at 12:16 pm

There are too many people complying.

Who knows what else they can pull off without actual resistance.

There’s been sporadic videos that have surfaced in the last two months of the experiences Indigenous communities and people have been having. In particular those that aren’t so fluent in English. The impression I have got has been that the medical interventions aren’t exactly being marketed as optional. As a people pretty done resisting and intergenerationally raised since in compliance.

This video turned up yesterday. Is it old, is it new? Is it in reference to Indigenous communities? It is no less disconcerting than the others in recent times.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/56xxID3kZXTi/

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 12:28 pm

There is no way a economic system would, by itself, advocate recycling.

But it does. Recycling will occur until the cost of recovered materials is more expensive than the equivalent virgin supply. Aluminium is perhaps the best example as electricity costs continue to raise the cost of virgin supply.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 12:28 pm

Dot

You are in la la land. Only the Brits get to decide through Parliament.

There are other ways to show displeasure at an uppity monarch. Limit the number of invitations for royal tours, put unpleasant spots on the agenda (coal mines, aluminium smelters if we still have them). Avoid the Barrier Reef and major cities. The hint will get through.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 2, 2021 12:31 pm

So Pair O’ Tits is gunning for glory at 95% vaccinated.
How sure are we that the counting is even accurate? They stop counting in LGA’s at 95% in case the numbers kick over 100% and show that it’s bullshit.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 12:32 pm

So you are saying that the market will bypass the re-cycle mandates.

Who the fuck cares if ” da market” does or doesn’t ignore waste. Da market produces goods and services. It’s up to you to decide what to do with them after their use-by date. It’s not up to GM to decide what happens to a dead motor vehicle. If we wanted that service it would have to be incorporated in the acquisition price. It doesn’t! You deal with it.

I agree, ergo the requirement for a RULER of some sort to impose on the market.

The western world is “clean” because cleanliness is a luxury item and only wealthy people are able to afford this service. You cannot if you’re poor. It’s an expense, you testicle brain.

Also, the market is not the best way to resolve the question. The market is the best way to resolve the price of a item, and I have shown that re-cycle costs will always be more than dig it up costs.

So fucking what? Who cares accept a communist twat like you?

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 2, 2021 12:32 pm

We used to do this for computers, but even they have succumbed, and increasingly are available as a single unmodifiable unit.

It is called large scale integration. Instead of a circuit board with lots of smaller chips around the CPU, most of the peripherals are integrated into the one chip of silicon.
The circuit board is smaller and cheaper and the whole thing gets much cheaper. No point in upgrading.
Silicon and epoxy are relatively cheap. The cost is in the processing

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 12:33 pm

So you are saying that the market will bypass the re-cycle mandates. I agree, ergo the requirement for a RULER of some sort to impose on the market. Also, the market is not the best way to resolve the question.

Oh dear. I was right.

Goodbye. See you at the next Socialist Alliance wine and cheese night.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 2, 2021 12:34 pm

The idea that defence force build processes are slow isn’t necessarily true, although the build process for the French submarines was laughable. Announced in 2016, not a metre of steel had been cut when they were cancelled five years later.

The Kreigsmarine – the German Navy – of WWII, had 1,156 submarines built through the World War II years. Following the Battle of the Coral Sea, the aircraft carrier USS Yorktown was repaired over several days for the coming fight at Midway – a repair that had been estimated at three months.

But perhaps the most admirable naval build record of all time was the construction of the mighty HMS Dreadnought, the battleship than revolutionized naval warfare prior to the Great War. Laid down in 1905, only 15 months later this 527 foot 18,000 ton monster was sailing. The British public had demanded “eight, and we won’t wait”. Perhaps the Australian public could learn from their refusal to be second-classed in what is needed for effective defence.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 12:35 pm

What has happened to Dec 1 in NSW? They are moving the date when they stop withholding our freedoms from us?

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 12:37 pm

Yes, but none of them last for 80 years do they? As such they are wasteful. We could design such products, but they require design languages would have to include the ability to upgrade components. We used to do this for computers, but even they have succumbed, and increasingly are available as a single unmodifiable unit.

You’re a stasist idiot. In terms of what you’re advocating, you’d have Bob Brown only approved goods and services.
Let me make a suggestion. This sort of discussion causes you anxiety. Go to the doc and get a bunch of meds to help you through life.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 12:37 pm

JC:
You mention that modern civilization doesn’t cater for recycling/cleaning. Yes, it fucking does, you complete twat. It’s an expense… a luxury item that is demanded with higher living standards. Truly, you’re a single dimensional goose who shows no ability to think. Shut up.

No, I never said that. I said that an economic system cannot justify recycling on costs. I said nothing about cleaning. I get what you are saying. Basically, that the cost of recycling is so great that it can only be paid when you have paid for all the other things you want in your life and have extra resources with which to pay for it.
As far as I can see, in Australia, not many want to pay for or want it. Almost all recycling in Australia is imposed upon us by government, the RULER I mentioned. Not only that, it’s the most useless form of recycling – point to you.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 12:38 pm

except!!!

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 2, 2021 12:38 pm

That sound you hear in the background is the clinking of moving goalposts.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 12:41 pm

And there’s one final unspoken truth, buried under stupid delusional childishness that these ‘vaccines’ work as they were promised, are ‘the only way back to freedom’ and cartoonish Qanon diversionary idiocy that everyone who has had one is going to drop dead at once, the comparatively mundane real truth lays waiting to be unearthed: once you have the ‘jab’ of this experimental biotech platform, your immune system loses the ability to deal with covid without it. The more ‘jabs’ you have, the worse it gets and the more dependent on the ‘jabs’ and their manufacturers you become. This goes for society at large too.

Good luck.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 2, 2021 12:41 pm

They are moving the date when they stop withholding our freedoms from us?

You call THAT freedoms?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 12:42 pm

Ok on our chap who had the full blown life threatening reaction to the vax,.

You know who reported it.
was it
A: the doctor that said he was fine to have it despite previous reactions to vaccinations?
B; The vaccination team who gave him the jab after it was oked by the doctor?
C: the medical team that performed the interventions that stopped him carking it from the vaccination reaction?
D: Himself, via the WA vax adverse reaction portal?


In addition he and I have been given the run around trying to get a record of the event to present as proof for the doc to do an exemption
Including memorable lines like ‘you will have to lodge a FOI request for that” from some involved.
That was finally 1/2 sorted and he due for a callback from a specialist vax crew in perth.

Anyone like to speculate on how well managed the adverse reactions database is?

Razey
Razey
November 2, 2021 12:44 pm

John of Melsays:
November 2, 2021 at 12:41 pm
They are moving the date when they stop withholding our freedoms from us?

You call THAT freedoms?

‘Freedom’ no longer exists in Aus. The ‘vax’d’ think they are free but they aren’t. Time to identify alternative countries that value freedom over tyranny.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 12:46 pm

No, I never said that. I said that an economic system cannot justify recycling on costs.

Look, you travesty of a human being, the advanced world’s production of steel comprises 75% recycled and 25 basic ore. Steel has always been recycled since we invented it’s use. Therefore, this example alone neuters your stupid assertion. When it’s economic, recycling will be introduced economically. Forcing this simply is a waste of scarce resources that could be utilized elsewhere.

I said nothing about cleaning. I get what you are saying. Basically, that the cost of recycling is so great that it can only be paid when you have paid for all the other things you want in your life and have extra resources with which to pay for it.

Existing through life is a package of expenses distributed over time. The wealthier we become the more we demand in clean up.

As far as I can see, in Australia, not many want to pay for or want it. Almost all recycling in Australia is imposed upon us by government, the RULER I mentioned.

Perhaps, because it’s not a problem here. It’s made a problem by worthless local government.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 2, 2021 12:46 pm

Not sure if it was posted before, but I just found it recently.
This is a very good post from April 2020 on
18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine .
And here is an even better follow-up from October:
17 More Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine.

shatterzzz
November 2, 2021 12:46 pm

extremely short term preventative treatments that work at varying levels of effectiveness.

before BAT FLU you bought this sort of, packaged,stuff over the counter at the supermarket/chemist but now it comes in multiple injections from the seller-you-know-you-can-trust .. GUMMINT .. LOL!

rickw
rickw
November 2, 2021 12:46 pm

This means that our civilisation has to come to terms with is rubbish and how to deal with it.

Have you been watching WALL E?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 12:46 pm

Sooooo Parrot-head has pushed the un-vaxxed release date out to 15 December as an incentive to get jabbed

It is not an incentive. It is extortion.

What a stupid man.

No, worse than that. He took the job mouthing some essential democratic principles, like how the government has no job rationing out freedoms because freedom does not come from the government.

A faithless man.

P
P
November 2, 2021 12:47 pm

All seem to be now convinced that the enemy is the unvaccinated.
Fear rules.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 12:47 pm

Sorry JC and Bear, I am NOT advocating anything. I am just pointing out that the current economic systems are antithetical to recycling.
If I were to advocate for something, it would be for the implementation, in Australia, of the waste recovery systems used in Europe. i.e. incineration of waste.
Re: longevity of products. What we have now is based on commercial turnover – not product life.
What is wrong with wishing for a washing machine that lasts for a lifetime – for example?

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2021 12:48 pm

Tralee Rose.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 12:49 pm

The idea that defence force build processes are slow isn’t necessarily true

The Chinese can build stuff very rapidly. Whole tower blocks in a few days. The key is the organization, the logistics and the will.

A safety culture not designed by Karens would also help them in this, I suspect.

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2021 12:49 pm

Our problem now is people.

“I don’t think the problem here is insufficient resources … we have clinics all over and our problem now is people.

“People need to go and get vaccinated.”

Queensland Deputy Premier, Steven Miles

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 12:50 pm

A faithless man.

Yes. The spokesmouth for the unelected bureaucracy fiends.

He has abandoned the best in the state to pander to the worst.

He needs to go.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 12:51 pm

Yes, but none of them last for 80 years do they?

Electronics cannot last that long.

Electronics literally break down with use.

It is molecular physics,not economics that determines this.

Delta A
Delta A
November 2, 2021 12:53 pm

New header up. The artist is José Gallegos y Arnosa

Beautiful.

Thanks, Dover.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 2, 2021 12:58 pm

This is a very good post from April 2020 on

Sorry, not 2020, but 2021. Typo.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 2, 2021 12:59 pm

Electronics cannot last that long.
Electronics literally break down with use.
It is molecular physics,not economics that determines this.

Power electronics, inverters, high power switches etc are worse. In general, heat is the enemy. Each 10 deg C increment halves MTBF.
Hence the fans in your PC and on top of the processor chip itself.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 1:00 pm

“I don’t think the problem here is insufficient resources … we have clinics all over and our problem now is people.

“People need to go and get vaccinated.”

Going to raise the alarm on the incoming QLD CHO suddenly quitting. I bet they were they telling him he was going to be expected to do what was necessary to people in ‘the regions’ to force up those numbers.

It’s a long, long way from 64% to 95% at this point, and they’re late, very very late. And they’ve made promises, to the National Cabinet, to Pfizer, to the WHO. Thing may get very hairy in QLD in December.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 1:02 pm

WA scampi barbecued and then dressed in burnt butter and sage. There’s not much better . Had them for dins last night with an Italian rose. Just wow.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 1:05 pm

I don’t doubt too much that Perrotet believes what he says about not wanting a two tier society etc.

I just think that Perrotet is the only one in NSW parliament who thinks like that.

Also Chant has real tangible power under the emergency powers, he can’t tell her what to do without taking NSW out of the state of emergency. She’s undoubtably – with the likes of her surrogate husband Hazzard at her back, telling Perrotet that she’ll ‘do what’s best for NSW in the name of Science(tm) with or without his permission.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
November 2, 2021 1:07 pm

Also Chant has real tangible power under the emergency powers, he can’t tell her what to do without taking NSW out of the state of emergency.

He can sack her.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 1:08 pm

People who have not been vaccinated yet clearly do not wish to. It is not that the lines have been long or supplies running out. (If there were there are substitutes which government – adding scarcity in everything – have banned.)

So this can be nothing more than naked coercion.

Is this general political cravenness? Has he not noticed that he was praised for promising to release us and allow life to return to normal (even baby steps)? Has bureaucracy frightened him with tales of how freedom complicates administration? Have his staffers convinced him that there are more votes in supporting Karens’ desire to exercise more control over other people’s bodies than those people themselves?

Does this man really think he will come out of this looking better.

If anyone knows his Parish Priest perhaps suggest leaving some cushions on the kneeling rail next weekend because there might be some heavy duty penance going on.

Or don’t. Tell him instead there is an untested experimental vaccine for his knees, and that he does not have to have it, but if he doesn’t he will be excommunicated. But that is a choice, so nothing bad there.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 1:12 pm

Good article.

At least it is factual to a point.

https://www.timeout.com/sydney/news/minister-ayres-if-you-want-nsw-to-stay-open-you-must-get-your-booster-shot-110221

Minister Ayres: ‘If you want NSW to stay open, you must get your booster shot’

The state’s deputy premier has warned that NSW residents will need a third dose of a vaccine to avoid future closures

Maxim Boon
Written by Maxim BoonTuesday 2 November 2021

—_———_——

Fuck Stuart Ayres!

Vicki
Vicki
November 2, 2021 1:14 pm

My God, I just heard Perrotet saying on TV that his intention in the new directions is to “unite society”!

So, deferring the release of the unvaccinated, in order to coerce them into vaccination, is “uniting society”:

Have they drugged the man? We are truly now in an Orwellian society!

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 1:15 pm

He can sack her.

Not if he’s an isolated figurehead.

As the Gladys faction regroup and recover they’ll start running the government via the CHO, this was his biggest test and he’s been completely steamrolled.

It seems his best possible play is to hope that everone gets vaccinated then remove the restrictions on the last remaining person and declare victory. But clearly they aren’t even going to allow him to have that.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 1:15 pm

Re: what Ayres said: this is the end conclusion of “back the blue”.

It was only ever idiocy, go against Peel’s Principles and you are likely to end up with at best petty tyranny.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 2, 2021 1:16 pm

I love scampi. Even more than prawns.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 1:17 pm

Remember Chant on a more illucid day talked about 97-98% double vaccinated.

I think they half escorted her off to stop her babbling.

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2021 1:23 pm

I object to the un-boosted being allowed to wander around society.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 1:24 pm

Minister Ayres: ‘If you want NSW to stay open, you must get your booster shot’

This is almost hilarious.

At the same moment that the QLD government are still pretending and lying to regional QLD that it’s ‘just two jabs and this is all over’, NSW is already onto ‘just three jabs and it’s all over’, while Israel is at ‘just four jabs and it’s all over’.

Back in reality obvious facts speak for themselves:

Australia has contracts to purchase 280 million doses…

Kneel
Kneel
November 2, 2021 1:29 pm

“I object to the un-boosted being allowed to wander around society.”

I object to the unintelligent and the corrupt running our government.

Alas, our objections are irrelevant to our “leaders” unless they advance the required political agenda and/or garner votes.

And so, your objection (tongue in cheek or not) will likely be acted upon, whereas mine will not.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 1:30 pm

Pfizer:

– November 2020, the Australian Government agreed to buy 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine
– February 2021, Australia ordered an extra 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine
– April 2021, the Australian Government ordered a further 20 million doses of Pfizer vaccines
– July 2021, the Australian Government announced the purchase of 85 million more doses.
– August 2021, the Australian Government bought 1 million doses from the Republic of Poland
– September 2021, the Australian Government announced a dose sharing partnership with the UK. Under this agreement Australia receives 4 million Pfizer doses from the UK in September 2021. We will send 4 million doses back to the UK in late 2021

Moderna:

10 million doses of the current formulation, available in late 2021
15 million doses of variant-specific versions to address longer-term immunity and viral variants, available in the first half of 2022.

AstraZenecca:

We have secured 53.8 million doses of this vaccine:

3.8 million doses imported from overseas, which arrived on 28 February 2021.
50 million doses manufactured in Australia.

COVAX

An upfront payment of $123.2 million to allow the purchase of over 25 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines for the Australian population. This is enough for 50% of the population to receive 2 doses.

Just two jabs and it’s all over!

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 1:34 pm

These were planned to be booster doses…

In July 2021, the Australian Government announced the purchase of 85 million more doses. These were planned to be booster doses, ensuring Australia’s supply of mRNA vaccines in 2022 and 2023. Read the Prime Minister’s media release about booster doses.

Like I said, your government has been operating all year knowing that it’s not ‘two jabs’. They have been lying to everyone so everyone would get the first two.

P
P
November 2, 2021 1:36 pm

New header up. The artist is José Gallegos y Arnosa, All Souls Day in Rome.

Thank you, Dover. A little more here on this beautiful painting.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 2, 2021 1:36 pm

Where can one buy, or get made, a Proud to be a Pureblood tshirt?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 2, 2021 1:37 pm

The vvaxenening is sinister stuff.

Sadly, there will be some innocent math, chem, physics people who will be caught up in the reckoning.
It wuz the science that dunnit.

Rabz
November 2, 2021 1:38 pm

The unvax’d will never be released

Agreed and there’s a very good reason for this. If the restrictions on the unjabbed were lifted, then the entire bat flu fear porn hysteria industrial complex effectively vanishes up its own fundament overnight.

This of course, cannot be allowed to happen.

The most infuriating aspect of this entire interminable clusterf*ck is that we’ve effectively become hostages to those loathsome fascist idiots’ gullibility, stupidity incompetence and hubris.

They will never admit they’re wrong, nor they will ever deign to give us back our erstwhile “freedoms” on any kind of semi unconditional basis. So here we are, being bullied and hectored by quite possibly the most stupid arrogant and dangerous “ruling class” to have tyrannized people in the West in since WW2.

They are increasingly preposterous, embarrassing power mad lunatics. Sooner rather than later, they will have to be shut down and most likely through the administration of violence – which I am not advocating, but simply observing that it increasingly seems there is no other way out of this intolerable situation.

Submission to this disgusting unrelenting idiocy is not the solution.

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2021 1:46 pm

Suckers!

Euphoria over Australia’s border reopening has been short-lived for aircrew after learning of the restrictions they will continue to face after operating “quarantine-free” international flights into New South Wales and Victoria.

In a case of the devil being in the detail, passengers as well as pilots and cabin crew are being asked to severely curtail any movement for the first seven days after they return from overseas.

In addition to a Covid test within 24-hours of arrival, and another after seven-days, all fully vaccinated arrivals must avoid restaurants, bars, concerts, schools and aged care facilities.

The Australian.

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2021 1:47 pm

Just to repeat:

In addition to a Covid test within 24-hours of arrival, and another after seven-days, all fully vaccinated arrivals must avoid restaurants, bars, concerts, schools and aged care facilities.

twostix
twostix
November 2, 2021 1:47 pm

This is weird:

The Australian Government has joined the COVAX Facility as part of a global effort to support rapid, fair and equitable access to COVID-19 vaccines.

COVAX is a collaboration between CEPI, Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, and the World Health Organization (WHO) with UNICEF. Being part of it enables us to buy vaccine doses for Australia via the COVAX Facility as they become available.

So they say this “COVAX Facility” is to provide vaccines to poor countries…apparently like Australia:

An upfront payment of $123.2 million to allow the purchase of over 25 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines for the Australian population. This is enough for 50% of the population to receive 2 doses.

Not creepy.

Tell me this doesn’t read like a scam / embezzlement scheme:

Committed vs Optional Purchase

Self-financing countries joining the COVAX Facility have two ways in which they can participate, through a Committed Purchase Arrangement or an Optional Purchase Arrangement.

As the name implies, self-financing countries opting for a Committed Purchase will need to make committed guarantees to procure an agreed volume of doses through the Facility. In exchange for this firm commitment these participants will be required to provide a lower upfront payment of US$ 1.60 per dose, or 15% of the total cost per dose. Under this type of agreement, participants are effectively committing to purchase a set number of vaccines that, once available, will be fairly and equitably allocated amongst participants. Countries will have the ability to opt out of purchasing a vaccine should the price of the vaccine be twice (or more) that which was expected.

For the Optional Purchase Arrangement, participants can choose to opt out of receiving any vaccine, without jeopardising their ability to receive their full share of doses of other candidates, subject to supply becoming available. This type of agreement may be more attractive to participants that already have bilateral agreements with manufacturers, through which they may already have secured sufficient doses of that particular vaccine.

The trade-off for these participants, who will have greater choice, is that they will be required to pay a higher proportion of the total cost per dose up front, making a down payment of US$ 3.10 per dose and a risk-sharing guarantee of US$ 0.40 per dose to help protect the Facility against any liabilities resulting from participants deciding not to purchase a particular vaccine candidate after the Facility has already entered into a contract with the manufacturer. Also, by opting out of vaccines that have been allocated to them and waiting for another to become available, these countries may inevitably experience a delay in receiving their full committed volume of vaccines. In the end, the total cost for the vaccines will be the same for the two options. As a pass-through facility, participants will pay the amount for the doses that was negotiated by the facility, plus a speed premium invested in accelerating and scale-up of manufacturing, as well as a very small fee for the operation of the facility. Some manufacturers will be providing vaccines at flat prices where others will be tiering the prices based upon income levels.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 2, 2021 1:48 pm

all fully vaccinated arrivals must avoid restaurants, bars, concerts, schools and aged care facilities

unless you are a professional sportsman or politician, or public servant travelling to Glasgow.

Roger
Roger
November 2, 2021 1:53 pm

Minister Ayres: ‘If you want NSW to stay open, you must get your booster shot’

The roadmap appears to have led them to a dead end.

Winston Smith
November 2, 2021 1:54 pm

I may have stumbled upon the reason our leaders have decided to risk their fortunes, careers and – indeed – their lives, to force the Vacksinations upon us.
A Mutant Star Goat has been seen heading our way.
Construct the ‘B’ Ark now while we still can!

P
P
November 2, 2021 1:57 pm

Chant has real tangible power under the emergency powers

Kerry Chant
Chief Health Officer of New South Wales
Incumbent
Assumed office
2008
Premier
Morris Iemma
Nathan Rees
Kristina Keneally
Barry O’Farrell
Mike Baird
Gladys Berejiklian
Dominic Perrottet

Having seen half a dozen off, it’s now her turn.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 1:59 pm

My God, I just heard Perrotet saying on TV that his intention in the new directions is to “unite society”!

If he goes on, I foresee a day when everyone will be united – in voting against the Libs.

Baba
Baba
November 2, 2021 1:59 pm

Dotsays:
November 2, 2021 at 11:47 am

In one of her last press conferences as Queensland’s chief health officer, Jeanette Young said double dosed COVID-19 patients would most likely be able to stay at home and recover being managed through a “virtual ward” rather than be forced to go to hospital.

Wouldn’t you want people actually staying at home? Hospitals are literal petri dishes. Your home doesn’t need deep cleaning for golden staph.

But not the unvaccinated. They are to be denied early treatment, forcibly hospitalised, sedated and then subjected to a procedure with a fatality rate of 50%. Because that’s what refuseniks deserve and we can fucking well do it.

A senior doctor on the frontline of Queensland’s coronavirus wards has issued a stark warning to those who are dragging their feet on getting vaccinated: “You really don’t want to be my patient.”

Intensive care specialist Jon Field said severe COVID-19 requiring intensive care treatment was “a disease of the unvaccinated”.

“Unvaccinated patients with COVID who get respiratory failure firstly end up on a respirator … we put a tube in the windpipe, we give you a general anaesthetic, we provide oxygen via the respirator,” Dr Field said.

Unvaxxed? Stock up on the Eraquell and as many of the other medications recommended by the FLCCC as you can get hold of. I also have a finger pulse oximeter and a second hand oxygen concentrator.

I will never get a PCR test.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 2:01 pm

Ted!!!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 2, 2021 2:02 pm

@ JC-

With tears in my eyes, I must regrettably inform you that WA Scampi are fed and raised on WA Death Gluten… 🙁

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 2:02 pm

ML

If he goes on, I foresee a day when everyone will be united – in voting against the Libs.

If that 1 December date slips, so will our votes – elsewhere!

Winston Smith
November 2, 2021 2:05 pm

Well, I can’t think of any better reason for this stunning display of lunacy.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 2:08 pm

My vote has already vanished. I will never vote LNP again, nor will I be kind to how-to-vote hander outerers at the polling booth by taking their handouts. I will simply ignore them. Same goes for Labor. They are in it up to their eyeballs too with nary a peep.

My vote goes elsewhere.

If there is no “elsewhere”, it will go to Mr Artline. The heavy duty one.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 2, 2021 2:13 pm

Our governments are really intent on all of us getting “vaxxinated”.

Anyone who thinks there will be free elections again in this country is fooling themselves.

95%+ receiving the death shot makes the mop-up operations by UN Peace-keepers (CCP) so much simpler & easier.

It seems our “Leaders” sold Australia with the “vacant possession” clause in the contract.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 2:15 pm

Minister Ayres: ‘If you want NSW to stay open, you must get your booster shot’

“If we don’t re-open the state, you know who to blame.”

C.L.
C.L.
November 2, 2021 2:15 pm
calli
calli
November 2, 2021 2:17 pm

Ayers needs a Booster Shot. Badly.

A heavy gauge one in the buttocks. And wriggle it around a bit for extra “boost”.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2021 2:22 pm

“callisays:
November 2, 2021 at 2:08 pm
My vote has already vanished. I will never vote LNP again, nor will I be kind to how-to-vote hander outerers at the polling booth by taking their handouts. I will simply ignore them. Same goes for Labor. They are in it up to their eyeballs too with nary a peep.

My vote goes elsewhere.”

Agree.

areff
areff
November 2, 2021 2:27 pm

Dover: Easton Wood’s retirement from the Doggies brought exactly that thought to mind.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 2:27 pm

Dover, two more blog posts on that story today:

Swedish study of 840,000 shows vaccine efficacy at 7 months at, wow, zero (2 Nov)

CDC Reports 28x More Fully Vaxxed Than Unvaxxed Were Hospitalized With COVID June-Sept (1 Nov)

The latter also has UK and Israeli data. Both are consistent with the original Israeli study which showed the immunological response generated by Pfizer was nearly gone after 60 days (that data is repeated in the latter article).

What we don’t yet know is what the time-based efficacy of the booster shot is like, but given the immediate response is about half that of the original vaccination I wouldn’t think it’s going to last very long either.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 2:30 pm

If the “booster” shot is the same formulation as the original jab (s), which ceased any efficacy weeks before, then it’s reasonable to expect it will do exactly the same thing.

Nothing.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 2, 2021 2:32 pm

Stabby student at Willetton (state) High School, Perth.
On the run.

  1. This is the WSJ but not paywalled. Also not what you’d expect.Decline and Fall of America? Not Yet Trump appears…

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