Open Thread – Weekend 13 Nov 2021


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Boambee John
Boambee John
November 13, 2021 4:28 pm

Carpe Jugulumsays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:19 pm
I bought clippers and combs on-line from the Shaver Shop

A friend of mine bought one that looks like a ball with a handpiece, does a perfect #3 crewcut

The combs give options on length. At present, I am working with 10mm back and sides, 25mm over the top, but having some issues with the transition.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 13, 2021 4:30 pm

callisays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:21 pm
You woosses with clippers! Dressmakers’ shears. Big ones.

They give an avant garde look second to none!

You van only be avant garde for a while, before you become garde. I skipped that stage! (Smiley face)

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 4:32 pm

Doggy Dancing … This one’s for the Lad Cats 😉 and Border Terrier lovers … they really are a delightful breed … 🙂

Mickan & Rut – Freestyle Routine!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGRz13dKAk
Jun 21, 2010
Mika Neiglick
Rut och jag övar inför U-DM i freestyle, vår första tävling någonsin! Det gick jättebra – vi vann!
In this video Rut and I practice before the U-DM in freestyle, our first contest ever! It went great – we won! 😀

Winston Smith
November 13, 2021 4:33 pm

Dover Beach:

Glad to see some Cats are at the march. I couldn’t make it today. One of my bitches is in heat and has my pedigree male whimpering in frustration. I can’t let him have at it as she just produced a litter back in July.

Bloody ‘ell, DB.
Can’t you keep your kids in line?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 4:38 pm

The most diverse AND most polite crowd I’ve ever been a part of.

I try not to offend anyone. I hope I offend everyone.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 4:41 pm

***Freeze the dole. Be harsh with the ‘move to where the work is’ proviso.

You must tackle onerous occupational licensing. Of course people should follow work, they are better off, more rounded human beings for it.

Although, what if they can’t work without $$$ thousands of bucks worth of nonsense qualifications?

The idea of being paid $10 an hour with free gym, pool, pay TV, wifi, public PC terminals, meals, accommodation…

Really, a lot of kids at uni should be doing uni during FIFO downtime and working in the mines during uptime etc.

They can come out as engineers in four years time with four years of work experience, 80k of savings, no costs (maybe a sensible HELP debt – or 40k in the bank and no debt) and a very useful degree.

What I am describing however as a cadetship would likely be called “Modern Day Slavery”.

All they’d need from high school and their job at KFC is some clothes, a mobile phone, some USB drives and a car they use a few times a year at home visiting mum and dad.

I probably just made several mining execs. laugh, vomit and poop.

What I am proposing is far more empowering form young women then endless rape fantasy mythologising.

21, electromechanical engineer, no debt, car, mobile, 40k in the bank, four years of work experience. That is a very employable person. Add in IT & “additive manufacturing” and they have a job for life in the 21st century.

It would be great for all of our young adults. They’d be set up for success, but it is viewed as slavery.

So, it isn’t just occupational licensing. Its a matter of labour market rules too.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 4:42 pm

Dot…

The LDP is not the first Party that DL has been involved in, just the first one in which he has been high enough up the totem pole to ensure that the policy was to his liking.

…and it was not his adherence to LDP policy that I was criticising , but his lack of adherence to basic Libertarian principle.

The pity is that he could have been a force for good in this country, but he tended to treat those who didn’t quite agree with him as idiots or enemies, instead of allies against the forces of darkness.
I was willing to hear him out, but he alienated a number of pro-liberty Conservatives, like me, in that manner.
I listened to him give an extended interview on gun-control. He had an excellent opportunity to explain the philosophical foundations of liberty, the benefits to society and the massive array of evidence that gun-control Does. Not. Work. He failed to offer a convincing argument for any of these things.
What a waste of an opportunity.

Here’s the question. Are you willing to offer convincing arguments as one reasonable person to another, or are you going to keep trying to burn the heretic at the stake?

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 4:45 pm

You must tackle onerous occupational licensing. Of course people should follow work, they are better off, more rounded human beings for it.

That, and what follows, is pretty sound… at least for a lot of kids.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 4:48 pm

Given how innumerate many products of modern education are, it may not necessarily be dishonesty.

Point…
But for post-modernists, lying is not wrong.
For post-mosernists,wrong is not wrong, unless they dislike it.

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 4:52 pm

That’s why Sarah Hanson Young railroaded him. The thugs on the left can’t have us winning arguments.”

David L was someone I liked and was someone I thought added value to the senate (I voted for him in 2013 and 2016)…..made the serious mistake of repeating on the Sky programme Outsiders what he said in parliament. I clearly remember watching Outsiders that Sunday morning and I knew, from the moment when David L repeated what he said about Hanson-Dung, that serious legal trouble would ensue and it did.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 13, 2021 4:53 pm

So many good little Germans on Twitter.
They fully support the removal of your legal rights and detention by the dictate of a bureaucrat.
Freedom to them is obeying the master.
Like a dog tied up that long they won’t stray outside the chain length even when untied. Pitiful pets.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 4:55 pm

Dr Tom van Laer is associate professor of narratology at the University of Sydney.

If the end of the Population Ponzi makes Dr Tom and every other one unemployed it won’t be a bad result.

Vicki
Vicki
November 13, 2021 4:57 pm

South Australian Senator Alex Antic today became the second Federal Coalition Senator to issue Prime Minister Scott Morrison an ultimatum on vaccine mandates.

Earlier this afternoon, Senator Antic announced via his official Facebook account that he has decided to follow the lead of his colleague Senator Gerard Rennick and withhold his vote in the Senate until Australians are properly protected from medical discrimination.

“This week I have indicated my intention to follow the lead of Senator Gerard Rennick and withhold my vote in the Senate until Australians are given protection from discrimination based upon their vaccine status and personal choice to refuse a vaccine,” his announcement reads.

In recent weeks, Senator Rennick has used his own official Facebook profile to highlight the stories of Australians who have suffered adverse events following a COVID-19 vaccination. He has called on the Prime Minister to open state borders, end vaccine mandates, and put in place a fit and proper compensation scheme for those injured.

Alex Antic’s announcement today comes just weeks ahead of South Australia’s borders opening to other states. South Australia is all but certain to follow the lead of NSW, Victoria and Queensland in discriminating against unvaccinated citizens by barring them from cafes, restaurants, public venues, sporting events and more.

Thousands of South Australians across many industries have already been forced to decide between vaccination and their job.

“Australians deserve the freedom to choose their own medical treatment and way of life,” Senator Antic wrote. “It is not reasonable for Australians to be discriminated against based on their decision to submit (or otherwise) to a medical procedure.”

The Liberal-National Coalition holds a 10-seat edge over Labor in the Senate, though this gap closes to just one when Greens Party senators vote with the ALP.

In order to pass legislation through the Senate, the Morrison Government generally relies on the vote of every Coalition senator, and must also win enough support from the five remaining cross-benchers.

Two Senate cross-benchers are with One Nation, a minor party that has also come out strongly against the vaccination mandates.

Senator Antic’s decision today therefore renders it near impossible for the Morrison Government to achieve any legislative progress before next year’s election.

Winston Smith
November 13, 2021 4:57 pm

TFM:

Anyone looking for a region/council to stack and take over should consider the numbers needed.

They just had a local election here for 1 new councilor.
Margi was only 27 votes

What Council/area was that?

Kneel
Kneel
November 13, 2021 4:58 pm

“…also the caldera sitting below Yellowstone which some think is overdue for eruption.”

Bloody hell – if that bastard goes off big time, the entire North American continent would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Not that anyone would care – the rest of the world wouldn’t fare much better. Have you looked at a map and seen how big it is? It’s the entire Yellowstone National Park – give or take a bit!

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 4:59 pm

The Corporate Press are Still Awful
[Corporate Media Attack The Judge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hILprNBA7I

Nov 13, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 5:03 pm

The Yellowstone caldera. One of those strange ironies. The most beautiful and free state in the Union also sits atop a lightly slumbering dragon.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 5:04 pm

I love Wyoming. I’d go back in a heartbeat.

P
P
November 13, 2021 5:04 pm

Channel 10 News at 5 reported ‘more than 10,000’ at the Rally.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 13, 2021 5:05 pm

so together it represents the House of Israel and the House of Judah together, both under the Southern Cross.

A million greenie heads just popped reading that…
Troll factor: Over 1000

What Council/area was that?
Denham WA

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 5:06 pm

That was their acne, mole.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 5:08 pm

The LDP is not the first Party that DL has been involved in

No one cares.

just the first one in which he has been high enough up the totem pole to ensure that the policy was to his liking.

???

…and everyone else who turned up to the party meetings as I did from 2003 – 2007.

…and it was not his adherence to LDP policy that I was criticising , but his lack of adherence to basic Libertarian principle.

Get out of here with this rot.

Name libertarian members of Parliament in Australia.

I can name about five (exactly) and one bloke who was a (deputy?) mayor. They were all in the LDP and party meetings weren’t full of people crying about how they were not sticking the libertarian principles.

He had an excellent opportunity to explain the philosophical foundations of liberty, the benefits to society and the massive array of evidence that gun-control Does. Not. Work. He failed to offer a convincing argument for any of these things.
What a waste of an opportunity.

I dispute that because I did some research for him debunking those stupid Chapman papers on gun control. I saw what he wrote armed with that knowledge and I heard him use that on interviews on TV. I did good research but I was impressed what he did with it. If you are trying to bullshit someone, don’t piss on their face and tell them it is raining.

Guess what. Sometimes people blow TV interviews. It happens. Usually DL was pretty good. He was confident, which some spineless losers claim was dreadful “arrogance”.

Anyway, good luck talking about Locke or Mill when talking to idiots like Ray Hadley. See how far you get this week. Try calling in whilst he’s not demanding a new COVIDian reich.

Here’s the question. Are you willing to offer convincing arguments as one reasonable person to another, or are you going to keep trying to burn the heretic at the stake?

Your arguments are completely lacking in evidence and are just unfounded opinion. Great, why don’t we ask Adam Bandt what he thinks of Dave as well?

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 5:09 pm

The Return of BLM
[Racial Socialists Threaten Riots Again]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di4VCUTRx5E

Nov 13, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 5:09 pm

Anyway, good luck talking about Locke or Mill when talking to idiots like Ray Hadley.

LOL.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 5:10 pm

Earlier this afternoon, Senator Antic announced via his official Facebook account that he has decided to follow the lead of his colleague Senator Gerard Rennick and withhold his vote in the Senate until Australians are properly protected from medical discrimination.

“This week I have indicated my intention to follow the lead of Senator Gerard Rennick and withhold my vote in the Senate until Australians are given protection from discrimination based upon their vaccine status and personal choice to refuse a vaccine,” his announcement reads.

They are good people and despite any differences I have with them we can only cheer them on for having working brains, hearts and dedication to liberal & conservative values their colleagues have forgotten to chase a window of marginal votes held hostage by fear porn.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 5:10 pm

Nice volley there, Dot. I’m proud of you.

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 5:11 pm

What China is Doing to Kill Us All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yV3Uj8qbCU

Nov 13, 2021
serpentza

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 13, 2021 5:14 pm

All they’d need from high school and their job at KFC is some clothes, a mobile phone, some USB drives and a car they use a few times a year at home visiting mum and dad.

I was at a careers day with some students and in the tea room overheard reps from a few group employers. They agreed that if you asked tradies willing to take on an apprentice, the perfect apprentice is 15yo(so their head isn’t filled with crap), has worked at Macca’s for a year(Macca’s not any other chain! as it teaches discipline) and has an open car licence.

Mater
November 13, 2021 5:15 pm

Channel 10 News at 5 reported ‘more than 10,000’ at the Rally.

Yes, many more than.

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 5:17 pm

This from the Oz…..

“Gallows brought to protest, Dan forced to leave

Liberal defector Craig Kelly has fired up a large protest crowd in Melbourne, as Daniel Andrews is forced to cancel press conference amid ‘hostile’ action. “

Note the hyper beat up.

The MSM = SCUM.

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 5:20 pm

“They are good people and despite any differences I have with them we can only cheer them on for having working brains, hearts and dedication to liberal & conservative values their colleagues have forgotten to chase a window of marginal votes held hostage by fear porn.”

Perfectly said and 100% agree Dot.

Zipster
Zipster
November 13, 2021 5:23 pm

China in Focus – NTD
00:02 Is China gearing up for war?
15:33 Top official: U.S. is resident power in Asia
16:46 U.S. adm. reaffirms commitment to Japan
17:48 China may soon launch 3rd aircraft carrier: study
18:55 China’s communist leader hailed as ‘helmsman’
20:03 Mass taxi-driver strikes in China
21:37 Tiananmen sq. artist seeks HK security law exemption

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 5:24 pm

Anyone looking for a region/council to stack and take over should consider the numbers needed.
They just had a local election here for 1 new councilor.
Margi was only 27 votes

So just over half the number of 1st preferences that can get you elected to the WA Upper House?

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 5:26 pm

…and it was not his adherence to LDP policy that I was criticising , but his lack of adherence to basic Libertarian principle.

We’ve probably stoushed for too long today.

If you think you can do a better job, nominate and run for office, I mean that sincerely and with utmost goodwill.

There is a very good argument for a more libertarian party than the LDP, or an independent libertarian who is very hardcore.

If Ayn Rand was in Congress for even one term, she would have had a massive platform. Funnily enough, she despised the US LP from the beginning.

bespoke
bespoke
November 13, 2021 5:27 pm

Lastly, defund the parasitic arms of government.

So no government at all Winston?

Winston Smith
November 13, 2021 5:28 pm

Flying Pigs:

why does Tennant Creek exist anymore?

The aluminium mines in the creek beds, FP.
You can see them from space, they are that rich.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 5:28 pm

Denham WA

Not a lot of opportunity to get rich through reasoning there. Best left to spinifex aficionados.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 5:32 pm

Testing …

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 13, 2021 5:33 pm

Kneelsays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:58 pm
“…also the caldera sitting below Yellowstone which some think is overdue for eruption.”

Bloody hell – if that bastard goes off big time, the entire North American continent would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Not that anyone would care – the rest of the world wouldn’t fare much better. Have you looked at a map and seen how big it is? It’s the entire Yellowstone National Park – give or take a bit!

I read two novels in a series on that possibility a few years ago, can’t remember the titles. I think at least one more was out or planned. Scary stuff.

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 5:34 pm

“mh says:
November 12, 2021 at 10:43 pm

Sieg Heil!

‘Austria province to place millions of unvaccinated people in Covid lockdown

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg says: ‘I don’t see why two-thirds should lose their freedom because one-third is dithering’”

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 5:37 pm

“mh says:
November 12, 2021 at 11:38 pm
Craig Kelly MP
@CraigKellyMP
·
25m
And Alex makes 6.

We now have 2 Federal MP’s & 4 Senators opposing?Mandates.

Myself & George Christensen – Senator Gerard Renick, Senator Pauline Hanson, Senator Malcolm Roberts & now Senator Alex Antic.

History is watching.

Who will be the 7th ?”

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 5:38 pm

Is this thing on, I asks ya?

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 5:38 pm

Yo! 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 13, 2021 5:39 pm

Diogenes

the perfect apprentice is 15yo(so their head isn’t filled with crap), has worked at Macca’s for a year(Macca’s not any other chain! as it teaches discipline) and has an open car licence.

Did you gently remind them of the age minimum for a driving licence?

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 5:39 pm

Nice piece in the Washington Examiner.

Democrats’ overreaction to the pandemic is alienating voters

By Mark Donnell
November 12, 2021 – 12:00 AM

As a moderate Democrat for more than five decades, I have seen politicians in both parties act remarkably blind and deaf to the true causes of their defeats when they really don’t want to hear the truth.

Most recently, the Democrats had a major defeat at the polls, and they have tried to blame it on their failure to pass infrastructure legislation prior to the election. Although this was possibly a small factor, the major unspoken reason was their imposition of excessive closures and mandates related to the COVID-19 pandemic. I am a retired physician, and yes, COVID-19 is a true pandemic that has killed 750,000 Americans in the last two years. However, for healthy younger people, a COVID-19 infection presents minimal health risks.

To better put the deaths in perspective, 200,000 of them occurred in people aged 85 and older. Another 195,000 deaths occurred in people aged 75 and older. Taken together, more than 50% of all COVID-19 deaths occurred in elderly people at high risk for death due to other causes. Only 18,000 deaths have occurred among the 150 million people in the United States aged 40 or younger. The death rate in this age group is about 1 in 10,000.

Among school-age children, there have been fewer than 600 total deaths among the 80 million children younger than 18 years old, for a death rate of less than 1 out of every 100,000 children. Of the deaths in people who were younger than 40 years old, the vast majority of them occurred in people with impaired immune systems due to chronic disease, cancer, severe obesity, or other high-risk conditions.

Fortunately, vaccination usually reduces the severity of the disease and the risk of death. The elderly and those with risk factors for severe COVID-19 infection should choose to be vaccinated, but no one should be forced to be vaccinated. Even after vaccination, some people with weakened immune systems, either from advanced age or other risk factors, will continue to die from COVID-19. No amount of immunization or miracle drugs can prevent this from happening.

Most importantly, if you “follow the science,” the numbers above cannot possibly justify the imposition of vaccine mandates in schools or in most businesses. People do not want their healthcare decisions to be made for them by the government.

This has been clearly shown with regard to the issue of cigarette smoking. Everyone knows that smoking is harmful and that long-term smoking significantly reduces life expectancy, yet large numbers of people continue to smoke. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that “cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States.” Although I would never advocate it, we would save far more lives by making smoking illegal than will ever be saved with vaccine mandates.

Democratic officials have alienated large numbers of moderate Democratic voters, and especially independent voters, by imposing excessive closures, mask requirements, and vaccine mandates. Next November, this will become obvious. By then, both infrastructure bills will have passed, and the Democrats will suffer very large losses at the polls because of their continued overreactions to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Mark Donnell is a retired medical doctor in New Mexico.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 5:40 pm

What the hell – let’s have a song!

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 5:41 pm

We’ve probably stoushed for too long today.

If you think you can do a better job, nominate and run for office, I mean that sincerely and with utmost goodwill.

There is a very good argument for a more libertarian party than the LDP, or an independent libertarian who is very hardcore.

Dot, I don’t doubt your sincerity….
But a man has to know his limitations, and I’m a tactless bastard at times. Nor can I remain calm in the presence of that much bullshit. I can, and do, hand out flyers for a pro-Liberty party outside polling booths, and pay my membership. About as much as a semi-recluse farmer can do while keeping his sanity.

Perhaps its a weakness that the forces of darkness are philosophically happy to sublimate their personal desires for THE Party, while we end up splintered into as many parties as there are ideas on this side of politics. I’m not sure what the answer is, but I’m damned sure that it doesn’t lie in feuding amongst ourselves.

Megan
Megan
November 13, 2021 5:42 pm

4:57 pm
South Australian Senator Alex Antic today became the second Federal Coalition Senator to issue Prime Minister Scott Morrison an ultimatum on vaccine mandates.

Very well done that man! Pity the pathetically piss poor Victorian LNP senators have pea sized hearts and even smaller brains.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 5:42 pm

callisays:
November 13, 2021 at 5:04 pm
I love Wyoming. I’d go back in a heartbeat.

Me too, if the USA was, in fact – the USA. As we know, the USA of old no longer exists.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 5:45 pm

PeterW

I agree, we should have less senators like David Lyonhelm and more like Jacqui Lambie and that other (Queensland) grifter – the former fish&chip shop owner.

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 5:45 pm

Vaccine Disinformation Is Deadly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH4b520Sl_I

Nov 13, 2021
Tony Heller

It is very clear that disinformation about vaccines is killing people.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 13, 2021 5:45 pm

The aluminium mines in the creek beds, FP.

VB, 4X or Swan?

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 5:45 pm

“Very well done that man! Pity the pathetically piss poor Victorian LNP senators have pea sized hearts and even smaller brains.”

Don’t forget the utterly useless scumbag NSW LNP senators……..Andrew Bragg, Holly Hughes and the all talk and no action man…..Jim Molan.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 5:46 pm

JMH says:
November 13, 2021 at 5:42 pm

callisays:
November 13, 2021 at 5:04 pm
I love Wyoming. I’d go back in a heartbeat.

Me too, if the USA was, in fact – the USA. As we know, the USA of old no longer exists.

Yes it does. Don’t be a drama queen, JMH. You’re such a drama queen.

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 5:46 pm

“Rabz – Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology”

Love it Rabzy!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 13, 2021 5:49 pm

H B Bearsays:
November 13, 2021 at 5:24 pm

The total votes cast was about 35….

Not a lot of opportunity to get rich through reasoning there.

The future Principality of upper Hutt is disappointed in your negativity.

The dolphin/whale harvesting operations alone would be extraordinary in the publicity they would generate.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 5:50 pm

srrsays:
November 13, 2021 at 5:37 pm
“mh says:
November 12, 2021 at 11:38 pm
Craig Kelly MP
@CraigKellyMP
·
25m
And Alex makes 6.

We now have 2 Federal MP’s & 4 Senators opposing?Mandates.

Myself & George Christensen – Senator Gerard Renick, Senator Pauline Hanson, Senator Malcolm Roberts & now Senator Alex Antic.

History is watching.

Who will be the 7th ?”

Wekk, I wouldn’t be relying on Canavan!

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 5:50 pm

Catholic — News Report — Priest Sexting Sting Exposes Network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwED7zmruHg

Premiered 13 hours ago
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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

I agree, we should have less senators like David Lyonhelm and more like Jacqui Lambie and that other (Queensland) grifter – the former fish&chip shop owner.

That’s indisputable.
Two of those Three possess the ability to “cut-through” with the media & would have done not only a far better job of leading the opposition in Victoria, but would have Dan Xiaoping from some of his more over-the-top authoritarianism, or at least held him to account for the consequences of his decisions.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 5:52 pm

Errata: Wekk = well – as if you didn’t know!

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 5:53 pm

Gallows brought to protest, Dan forced to leave

Seriously.

The “gallows” was a couple of sticks (or maybe a bit of bent reo) with three very inexpertly tied garden string “nooses”. Just as well they didn’t display a “ditch the dan” sign.

He must be an hysterical coward.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 5:54 pm

Fuck off driller, you laughable clown. What you’ve said is exactly what a know nothing imbecile would say. Go repair some fences you boundary rider you.

Zipster
Zipster
November 13, 2021 5:56 pm

Impaired Immune Response in Obesity (leptin) + Herd Immunity: USA May Have a Problem
Scientists find lean subjects made protective antibodies after infection while obese subjects did not make protective antibodies—they made maladaptive autoantibodies instead. Researchers speculate that leptin plays a role in skewing the immune response toward autoimmunity after infection.

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 5:57 pm

Next time guys, bring a couple of stringers and a few treads. Do a carpentry demmo in front of Vic Parliament .

Then invite Dan down to try them out.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 5:59 pm

For those expecting a sudden shift in inflation, I suggest you take a look at this chart, which is the US 10 year long bond.

To some extent it also matches inflation expectations. The yield began to rise from about 1960 on and reached a top ( in yield) in early 1980’s. It then took 40 years to reach the lows we’ve seen. This stuff takes a small ocean of time to work its way into the system.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IRLTLT01USM156N

srr
srr
November 13, 2021 6:00 pm

Catholic — News Report — Hope on the Horizon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWJ8Smo1mDg

Premiered 12 hours ago
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Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 6:02 pm

the USA of old no longer exists

Unfortunately. It is one of the great lands on this planet. That epic ’93 trip remains fond in my mind.

36 states, 13,000 miles. 13 Weeks. The (ex FBI) ’78 Ford Fairmount being sold for half of what we paid for it (in LA) in Hollyweird at the end of the trip.

Venice Beach
Vegas
The Canyon
Monument Valley
Arizona
Texas (including an overnight stop in a location known as Ozona)
Austin
Dallas
Houston
The deep South
Florida
Key West
Noo Awlins (for the Jazz Fest)
The Smoky mountains
Washington DC
Noo Joisey
Noo Yoik
Londoni (for 11 days)
Noo Yoik
Canada (for seven days)
Niagara Falls
The upper mid west
The mound from “Close Encounters”
The Bear Tooth Highway (four seasons in one day)
Washington state
Oregon
California (Redwoods and the Pacific Hwy)
Hollyweird (Banana Bungalow)
Then back to Oz and an erstwhile goilfriend. 🙂

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:03 pm

Two of those Three possess the ability to “cut-through” with the media & would have done not only a far better job of leading the opposition in Victoria, but would have Dan Xiaoping from some of his more over-the-top authoritarianism, or at least held him to account for the consequences of his decisions.

Umm

Lambie has a fetish for Branch COVIDian authoritarianism.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:03 pm

Dot..

Getting further back up the list…

You are trying to tell me what I heard and how I reacted. You’ve done that more than once, and it’s not decent debating. In fact if there is any argument that completely lacks evidence, it’s that kind of claim from you. Seriously, man!

No… You can’t claim that DL didn’t switch Parties and then claim that “nobody is interested” when it’s shown otherwise. (Yes, he was involved in TSP back in the day, and one of the majors before that) I’m fine with a man changing his opinions, but his actions do say something about his character, and we are entitled to look at that.

Me personally? I consider myself “Conservative”, maybe because I’ve run into a few too many “Libertarians” who want to deny us any ability to work together, even when it is beneficial. Maybe because I want to preserve what works, rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. If you want to convince me otherwise, I’m open, but there it is.

The same goes for gesture-politics. Putting up Bills that no-one votes for but yourself doesn’t – to my mind – achieve much. If you believe in rule “by the people”, then you accept a responsibility to persuade people to agree with you.

Yeah, I know I’m going on a bit, but it’s necessary if we are going to debate like adults who are open to improving our understanding. Can you understand that I want to see pro-liberty parties doing well? Neither of us can do that if we simply take the attitude that critics are simply arseholes and we got it all perfectly right the first time?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 13, 2021 6:04 pm

The aluminium mines in the creek beds, FP.

LOL. Only place on Earth that aluminium can be mined as a metal not an oxide…
(I spent a few months working at Warrego once, wild place. No 0.02 site limits back then.)

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 6:06 pm

The only place Lambie the Bush Pig has “cut-through” is in northern Tasmania….yet the whole of Australia is lumbered with her. Oh and remember that the reason why the country is lumbered with Lambie the Bush Pig is thanks to that fat bastard….Clive Palmer, who behaved despicably from 2013 through to 2016.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 6:06 pm

Me personally? I consider myself “Conservative”, maybe because I’ve run into a few too many “Libertarians” who want to deny us any ability to work together, even when it is beneficial.

Some of those are just left wingers disguised as libertarians. The famous example would be Bill Maher, a total leftwing arsehole who self describes as a libertarian until a real libertarian whacked the douche-bag over the head and called the bullshit.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:08 pm

I agree, we should have less senators like David Lyonhelm and more like Jacqui Lambie and that other (Queensland) grifter – the former fish&chip shop owner.

I wouldn’t vote for them, either.
Any reason why I should?

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 6:09 pm

“Umm

Lambie has a fetish for Branch COVIDian authoritarianism.”

Correct….and whilst I know and understand that not everybody likes Pauline…she at least has stood up for free speech, she and Malcolm Roberts were the only two senators to vote against the outrageous senate censure of Bettina Arndt. Lambie the Bush Pig voted for it. Lambie is actually a disgrace.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:09 pm

Maybe because I want to preserve what works, rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. If you want to convince me otherwise, I’m open, but there it is.

It’s broken. Throw it out.

We need a bill of rights and to destroy the four main political parties.

Dicey was wrong. Parliament would destroy our rights and the common law didn’t protect us.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 6:12 pm

Because we don’t rely on MSM accuracy, it would be good to know the crowd estimate at the Melbourne march today.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 13, 2021 6:13 pm

Kneelsays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:58 pm

Yellowstone is under an active mantle plume, a hot spot. Western Victoria was until recently under a similar hotspot. However the eruptions when they have happened at Yellowstone have been huge. It is estimated when it goes the economic fallout will be substantial hence the USGS ongoing detailed attention.

Different to Mt St Helens and the other volcanics in NE US which are in a subduction zone where friction from tectonic plates are the drivers of geological activity and much more violent volcanism.

Delta A
Delta A
November 13, 2021 6:14 pm

Clive Palmer, who behaved despicably from 2013 through to 2016.

Yes. Makes it difficult to contemplate UAP as an alternative at the next federal election.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 6:15 pm

The Lambie hails from a state (if it could be dignified with such a term) where 50% of the populace is illiterate.

And the other half enthusiastically vote for her.

An imbecile voting in the Australian senate in taxmania has a vote that is worth over eight times my senate vote in NSW.

So much for one vote, one value – and no I don’t give a rodent’s about the reasoning that established such idiocy in the first place.

States’ rights are wonderful, until they aren’t. Just ask Hawkie – oh wait – you can’t, because he’s dead.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:15 pm

Some of those are just left wingers disguised as libertarians. The famous example would be Bill Maher, a total leftwing arsehole who self describes as a libertarian until a real libertarian whacked the douche-bag over the head and called the bullshit.

Possible…
When we are talking about the “open borders” crowd… it starts to smell like a Trojan Horse.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:16 pm

Delta Asays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:14 pm
Clive Palmer, who behaved despicably from 2013 through to 2016.

Yes. Makes it difficult to contemplate UAP as an alternative at the next federal election.

…what have the ruling Liberals done in NSW and the Commonwealth since late 2019?!

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 6:16 pm

To be fair I should take some of that criticism back about Lambie and the Queenslander. I bet they wouldn’t be as brazen as the mincing poodle (Pyne) who spent $90 billion of Australian taxpayer money to save his seat. I’m walking it back ever so slightly.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 13, 2021 6:17 pm

Carpe Jugulumsays:
November 13, 2021 at 4:19 pm
I bought clippers and combs on-line from the Shaver Shop

A friend of mine bought one that looks like a ball with a handpiece, does a perfect #3 crewcut

Saw one of those at Costco on Thursday and thought it a good present for my domed offspring but the prices was over $230 so had to pass on it — looked terrific though especially the rugged fellow on the carton.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:18 pm

When we are talking about the “open borders” crowd… it starts to smell like a Trojan Horse.

Listen up. You might not scroll back. I said on this forum today it was preferable to close the borders last year than give up our civil liberties.

Don’t be a mendacious prick like this and then whine and moan about how you felt years ago.

Just stop. No more whining.

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 6:21 pm

“Yellowstone is under an active mantle plume, a hot spot.”

My understanding is that if Yellowstone erupts, then it would have serious consequences for life on the planet and would be worse, far worse, than the Toba eruption over 70,000 years ago.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 6:21 pm

as brazen as the mincing poodle (Pyne) who spent $90 billion of Australian taxpayers’ money to save his house sized (and much abused) backside

And he now has a show on Sky, yukking it up, along with that bloviating chips ‘n’ gravy imbecile, Morgan.

The MudTel subscription is toast. (finally) 🙁

areff
areff
November 13, 2021 6:22 pm

good to know the crowd estimate

Social media was reporting the crowd stretched from Spring to Elizabeth streets, with quite a few so far away they couldn’t hear the speakers. You’d have to figure 20,000.

Next weekend double it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 13, 2021 6:22 pm

Delta Asays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:14 pm
Clive Palmer, who behaved despicably from 2013 through to 2016.

Yes. Makes it difficult to contemplate UAP as an alternative at the next federal election.

Is Clive, in political terms, better or worse than the Machinations of the likes of Photios?

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:23 pm

It’s broken. Throw it out.

The political system that “works” when the voters are broken, is a myth. How the hell do you expect to convince the voters to support the kind of BOR that you want?

The horse has a broken leg and you are talking about putting new wheels on the cart.

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 6:24 pm

“Is Clive, in political terms, better or worse than the Machinations of the likes of Photios?”

Err….no.

Delta A
Delta A
November 13, 2021 6:25 pm

Senator Rennick has joined Craig Kelly to object vax apartheid. If you need more reason to vote for him (wiki):

Rennick promotes climate change denial and has repeatedly accused the Australian government’s Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) of falsifying climate data.

In SA, Senator Alex Antic has also joined the bloc, making six who will withhold support from the Libs if they pursue Vax mandate.

We need to be informed to know how to vote as effectively as possible.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:26 pm

Listen up. You might not scroll back. I said on this forum today it was preferable to close the borders last year than give up our civil liberties.

Don’t be a mendacious prick like this and then whine and moan about how you felt years ago.

Oh dear….

Talking about “mendacity”, what do you call your pretence that I was was talking about you?

Are you really so ego-driven that you think that you are the only “Libertarian” that I’ve ever talked to? Or are you trying to play the victim because you don’t have a decent response?

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:28 pm

The political system that “works” when the voters are broken, is a myth. How the hell do you expect to convince the voters to support the kind of BOR that you want?

The horse has a broken leg and you are talking about putting new wheels on the cart.

Okay champ, show us the way. What do you propose? If it is nothing, or vote for the Liberals, you can FOAD.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:30 pm

Talking about “mendacity”, what do you call your pretence that I was was talking about you?

Are you really so ego-driven that you think that you are the only “Libertarian” that I’ve ever talked to? Or are you trying to play the victim because you don’t have a decent response?

Dickhead, you tried to make out I was representative of the LDP before. Maybe you should check what you wrote beforehand before you ramp up the trolling for the LNP?

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:30 pm

There are very few candidates that I find worth voting for.

No… I’m not voting UAP, or Liberal, or National, or most of the weirder Independents or Microparties.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 6:30 pm

areffsays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:22 pm
good to know the crowd estimate

Social media was reporting the crowd stretched from Spring to Elizabeth streets, with quite a few so far away they couldn’t hear the speakers. You’d have to figure 20,000.

Next weekend double it.

Nothing to base this on but Rukshan’s visuals – I would have thought more than that.
Last week’s march was estimated at over 20,000.

Delta A
Delta A
November 13, 2021 6:31 pm

Yes. Makes it difficult to contemplate UAP as an alternative at the next federal election.

Is Clive, in political terms, better or worse than the Machinations of the likes of Photios?

I acknowledge your point BJ.

It was a serious question, although I had already formulated the answer.

Go Cloive!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JCsays:
November 13, 2021 at 5:54 pm

Fuck off driller, you laughable clown. What you’ve said is exactly what a know nothing imbecile would say. Go repair some fences you boundary rider you.

Erudite & intelligent, as usual.
Class act. Intelligent.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 6:32 pm

20,000 less than gruntled Melbournians?

Dunderhead Dan will laugh it off as a tiny percentage – and he would be correct.

Nothing less than the long overdue administration of HOP Time will suffice.

We know this – and it is ugly having to acknowledge that we have no other option.

Oh – and if you’re feeling squeamish, do you really want to spend the rest of your time on this planet existing like this? Do you want your kiddies to be condemned to this? Existing under the most preposterous dicktator in human history?

The Victorians I’ve known in my life (and yes, I used to love going to Melbourne) were sound, civilised and funny characters.

What the hell happened?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 13, 2021 6:32 pm

…what have the ruling Liberals done in NSW and the Commonwealth since late 2019?!

Hopefully, nothing.
The alternative is the Labor Party.
They will do something
Such as: Blow up perfectly functioning Power Houses
Shut down the Beef Live Export Industry Overnight
Shut down the Sheep Live Export Industry overnight
In the Whitlam days:
Shut down the Clothing, Textiles, Footwear, Pottery industries overnight
In the Hawke Era:
Sack all the pilots, close down the airline Industry and the Tourist Industry overnight
In the Rudd Era:
Shut down the Home Insulation Industry Overnight.
There’s plenty more.
Sick of having a job?
Solution: Vote Labor!

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:37 pm

Okay champ, show us the way. What do you propose? If it is nothing, or vote for the Liberals, you can FOAD.

It starts by actually listening to people, instead of defaulting to treating them like idiots or enemies.

Produce a convincing argument and persuade them that your proposal aligns with their values and is to their benefit.

That is not “nothing” and not “voting for the Liberals”… you seem to be doing what you are falsely accusing me of doing – putting words in my mouth.

I did NOT accuse you of being part of the Open Borders mob. The Libertarians (?) that I had in mind when I made that statement, were American…. and if you’d paid attention, I was responding to a comment by JC about a person who is not – to my knowledge) connected with you?

Does that make you happy, or are you really cranky that I’m not the idiot you’d like me to be?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 13, 2021 6:38 pm

Fuck off driller, you laughable clown. What you’ve said is exactly what a know nothing imbecile would say. Go repair some fences you boundary rider you.

Good to see Foghorn Leghorn, the New York Tough Guy, back on the net. I wonder what erudite pearls he has for us, on this thread?

areff
areff
November 13, 2021 6:39 pm

The Australian grows more like the mindless Age with every passing day. This crap, for example:

An Aboriginal approach could help Australian children emerge from the global pandemic, ­according to an Indigenous child psychiatrist who has become a world authority on childhood trauma.

The story is accompanied by a snap of the ‘indigenous’ shrink. No discernible touch of the tar brush whatsoever

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Cassie of Sydneysays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:06 pm

The only place Lambie the Bush Pig has “cut-through” is in northern Tasmania

I’ll disagree.
(Cut-through is not the same as “broad electoral appeal”)

She has cut-through. Her message usually gets out.
I’ll tender as evidence: We all know who she is.
Except for OTT political junkies among us, very few could name the bottom couple of senators in most states.
We’d have even less idea what their core beliefs are.

When Our Jackie says something – no matter how stupid – she manages to get that message nationwide loud & clear, and has everybody talking about it.

Now & again she’s correct (on a stopped clock basis perhaps)
A few minor party senators, with few inhibitions, are needed now & then, as they’ll say the things the things that need saying, but the major party suckholes won’t say.

Behind Enemy Lines
Behind Enemy Lines
November 13, 2021 6:40 pm

JMHsays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:12 pm
Because we don’t rely on MSM accuracy, it would be good to know the crowd estimate at the Melbourne march today.

Last week, my crowd-calculating skills were shown here to be sadly lacking. So I won’t put a number on it. But I can assure you that this protest was bigger, by a fair bit. The biggest so far. I’d say, take your favourite number from last week and add maybe 20-30%.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 6:41 pm

The Victorians I’ve known in my life (and yes, I used to love going to Melbourne) were sound, civilised and funny characters.

What the hell happened?

Rabz, I think seething Victorians may be becoming a little more unquieter. If the Dictator’s ‘Pandemic’ crap is passed next week, stand back and expect something.

Runnybum
Runnybum
November 13, 2021 6:41 pm

PeterW, so you are voting liars party?

cohenite
November 13, 2021 6:45 pm

I reckon the Kyle Rittenhouse case is a pivot point for the US. The left have been whittling away for 5 years beginning when Trump won, lying and subverting the institutions and brazenly attacking the non-left. This has to be the line in the sand, the straw that breaks the camel’s back, regardless of which way it goes. It Kyle is acquitted that shows the non-left they can still defend themselves against the blm, antifa, riot scum. If he loses that shows the system is broken and they can go for broke because no fairness is left.

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 6:45 pm

“When Our Jackie says something – no matter how stupid – she manages to get that message nationwide loud & clear, and has everybody talking about it.”

Umm…she’s most definitely not “our” and most people look askance at her. She’s an embarrassment. She’s done nothing of any consequence in parliament (unlike Hanson, like her or loathe her).

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 6:45 pm

Behind Enemy Linessays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:40 pm
JMHsays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:12 pm
Because we don’t rely on MSM accuracy, it would be good to know the crowd estimate at the Melbourne march today.

Last week, my crowd-calculating skills were shown here to be sadly lacking. So I won’t put a number on it. But I can assure you that this protest was bigger, by a fair bit. The biggest so far. I’d say, take your favourite number from last week and add maybe 20-30%.

From on-the-spot video footage, I would have reckoned at least 60,000. Possibly more. We can’t trust the Police nor MSM to tell the truth, so we just have to guesstimate!

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 6:46 pm

“A few minor party senators, with few inhibitions, are needed now & then, as they’ll say the things the things that need saying, but the major party suckholes won’t say.”

Lambie the Bush Pig has never said anything that needed saying.

Bruce
Bruce
November 13, 2021 6:47 pm

:

“The Victorians I’ve known in my life (and yes, I used to love going to Melbourne) were sound, civilised and funny characters.

What the hell happened?”

They were “assimilated”; became the “Borg”.

Anyone got a more likely explanation?

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:47 pm

It starts by actually listening to people, instead of defaulting to treating them like idiots or enemies.

I asked you how to get our civil liberties back vis a vis a bill of rights, then you rambled on about how I blamed the voters (I didn’t) and we should listen to people…

What a load of piffle.

If we’re doing it wrong, please tell us how to do it right.

Put up or shut up!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Umm…she’s most definitely not “our” and most people look askance at her. She’s an embarrassment. She’s done nothing of any consequence in parliament

Resoundingly so, to all of that.

Those qualities (negative though they be) in no way prevent her from having “cut-through”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 6:48 pm

Hoo boy.

Been black as a dog’s arse on one side of the sky for a couple of hours, with the sea breeze pushing the storm back. Now the wind’s changed and it’s starting to move over the town.

Blowing up nicely. All windows open. Dropped ten degrees in fifteen minutes, with a LOT of snap and crackle going on.

Fucking finally.

Indolent
Indolent
November 13, 2021 6:48 pm

Clive Palmer, who behaved despicably from 2013 through to 2016.

Yes. Makes it difficult to contemplate UAP as an alternative at the next federal election.

Not for me. For one, I have the highest regard for Craig Kelly who seems to be lifting a mountain by himself. But beyond that, whatever Palmer’s personal attributes he’s our only hope of bringing about a major shakeup of the status quo, which is what is needed most. A good old fashioned clean out.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 6:48 pm

PeterW, so you are voting liars party?

Seems like it, doesn’t it?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Lambie the Bush Pig has never said anything that needed saying.

She said of those of “our boys” who went to fight with Isis: “The sooner they’re knocked off, the better off we’ll all be

Try as I might, I’m unable to find an angle on that with which to disagree.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 6:50 pm

Melbourne in the early 2000s was a figurative chocolate box. So much so that I would happily spend 10 hours driving in a day to get down there.

Now, not so much. 🙁

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 6:51 pm

Three cheers for underground power!

Oh. Apologies.

Up Twinkles for underground power!

Arky
November 13, 2021 6:52 pm

Crowd size calculation from aerial shot:
Roads 25 metres wide. Crowd extended at least 100 metres down each of three ways from parliament intersection.
25 x 300 = 7500 m2.
At a density of 3 per m3 = 22,500 persons.
At a density of 4 per m2 = 30,000 persons.
At a density of 5 per m2 = 37,500 persons.
At 6 per m2 = 45,000

Behind Enemy Lines
Behind Enemy Lines
November 13, 2021 6:54 pm

JMHsays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:45 pm
From on-the-spot video footage, I would have reckoned at least 60,000. Possibly more. We can’t trust the Police nor MSM to tell the truth, so we just have to guesstimate

Yes.

I haven’t seen a comprehensive overhead video, and I tend to guess conservatively regardless. The MCG standard is what I try to use. Still, the hypothetical MCG is filling up. You could easily be right with your estimate. Last week I left when the crowd grew too big to be safe in, and it was a short trip out. Today, same thing, but much harder to get out. Much. And Bourke Street was rammed solid as far as I could see.

There is still hope.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 6:54 pm

Erudite & intelligent, as usual.
Class act. Intelligent.

Driller, I’ve noticed The Rones using the word, “Erudite” several times. He’s nothing if not repetitive. You got the word from him, obviously.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 6:54 pm

Up Twinkies for some good ol’ Soul! 🙂

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 6:54 pm

PeterW, so you are voting liars party?

Well that includes a lot of options, but I can safely say that I will not be voting Liberal, Labor, National or – if Dot is any example – LDP.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 13, 2021 6:54 pm

Did you gently remind them of the age minimum for a driving licence?

Didn’t need to. They were describing a unicorn and they knew it. The bitch was that without a driver’s licence an apprentice is not worth much, can’t be sent to Bunnings while the tradie continues the job

calli
calli
November 13, 2021 6:55 pm

Here ya go, Cassie.

Yellowstone exploding.

I suspect the real thing will be slightly…bigger.

rickw
rickw
November 13, 2021 6:56 pm

Develop a “Reasonable use of force in defence of self, family and property” policy. Leave the definition of “reasonable” open.

I think we’ve all had enough of fucking reasonable. Every single document that should have protected Australian Freedom and Liberty didn’t because of fucking “reasonable”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 13, 2021 6:56 pm

A slight breeze of 70kph.

Hasn’t even hit yet. You can smell the heat seeping out of wet concrete and brickwork.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

I’ve noticed The Rones using the word, “Erudite” several times. He’s nothing if not repetitive. You got the word from him, obviously.

This retort is so lame it would stand-in for counting sheep.
It would seem that Low-energy Jeb still controls the account.

Perhaps it’s time for your nap.

Rabz - Perfesser of Deceased Parrotology
November 13, 2021 6:59 pm

45,000

The population of Melbourne, according to the ABS in 2016: 4,485,211

Today’s demo attracted just over 1% of Melbournians, or even less, given that population stat is five years’ old.

The BEM is laughing at youse, laughing – incessantly.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 13, 2021 7:00 pm

Lambie the Bush Pig has never said anything that needed saying.

Not quite.
A few years ago, she said she likes dick.
Cue predictable uproar.
Try to find a Liberal or National, let alone a Labor woman who will say that.
Anyway, here’s six minutes of Norm McDonald:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0d6oH5Lumc

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:00 pm

PeterWsays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:54 pm
PeterW, so you are voting liars party?

Well that includes a lot of options, but I can safely say that I will not be voting Liberal, Labor, National or – if Dot is any example – LDP.

Oh yes, you were totally sincere before. You haven’t suggested anything constructive. Bugger off you waste of space.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:02 pm

This retort is so lame it would stand-in for counting sheep.
It would seem that Low-energy Jeb still controls the account.

Perhaps it’s time for your nap.

You’re really not good at this, are you Dickhead. How’s uncle Ned? 🙂

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 13, 2021 7:03 pm

Today’s demo attracted just over 1% of Melbournians, or even less, given that population stat is five years’ old.

The usual political arithmetic is to multiply by ten the number of critics who actually make a statement to get an estimate of the disgruntled.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:03 pm

Lambie the Bush Pig has never said anything that needed saying.

According to the political genius from FNQ she cuts through. She’s a cut “througher”. 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

You’re really not good at this, are you Dickhead. How’s uncle Ned?

Lol. I don’t need to be good at this to kick your low-energy arse.

Nap time for you. Go………!

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 7:03 pm

Seems like it, doesn’t it?

Dot… It is comments like that which make me doubt your integrity.

…..and this.

I asked you how to get our civil liberties back vis a vis a bill of rights, then you rambled on about how I blamed the voters (I didn’t) and we should listen to people…

What a load of piffle.

If we’re doing it wrong, please tell us how to do it right.

I have said very clearly and explicitly that you CANNOT get our Civil Liberties back without convincing the majority of voters that it is required.
Firstly because it needs to be passed by referendum, because anything passed by Parliament can be amended by Parliament.
Secondly, because unless Politicians who ignore a BOR are punished for it at the ballot box, they have no reason to follow it.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
November 13, 2021 7:03 pm

Been black as a dog’s arse on one side of the sky for a couple of hours, with the sea breeze pushing the storm back. Now the wind’s changed and it’s starting to move over the town.

Blowing up nicely. All windows open. Dropped ten degrees in fifteen minutes, with a LOT of snap and crackle going on.

Fucking finally.

It’s been bucketing down here for the last half hour. No sign of it letting up anytime soon.

Biggest problem is convincing 60kg of Bull Arab cross that he is not a lap dog!

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 7:06 pm

Oh yes, you were totally sincere before. You haven’t suggested anything constructive. Bugger off you waste of space.

Poor Dottie….. 😀

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:07 pm

Lol. I don’t need to be good at this to kick your low-energy arse.

Nap time for you. Go………!

That’s what you ought to be doing.. with zero clientele. Zero.

I don’t get it, Drills. Admittedly it was a while ago and you were complaining about lack of staff. But all you do is hang around here looking to stoush troll. Hospitality is nowhere near filling up the jobs surplus, but you appear to have lots of time. What gives?

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:08 pm

I have said very clearly and explicitly that you CANNOT get our Civil Liberties back without convincing the majority of voters that it is required.
Firstly because it needs to be passed by referendum, because anything passed by Parliament can be amended by Parliament.
Secondly, because unless Politicians who ignore a BOR are punished for it at the ballot box, they have no reason to follow it.

???

Oh woe are we, we have to contest elections that we may lose!

Please leave this pettifogging nonsense elsewhere.

Doubt my integrity all you like, you are here spreading FUD like a crop sprayer.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

rickwsays:
November 13, 2021 at 6:56 pm

Develop a “Reasonable use of force in defence of self, family and property” policy. Leave the definition of “reasonable” open.

I think we’ve all had enough of fucking reasonable. Every single document that should have protected Australian Freedom and Liberty didn’t because of fucking “reasonable”.

+200

Hear hear!

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:10 pm

Driller

It’s early Saturday night and you’re here trying to stoush with me. Explain to the interested readership what the hell is going on with you?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Am I the only person in the country who hasn’t seen a storm cloud?
There’s not a hint of rain on the horizon, & hasn’t been for weeks.

Runnybum
Runnybum
November 13, 2021 7:12 pm

JC I notice you are still an arsehole on this site.
Wanna come hunting bananas with me?

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:12 pm

Am I the only person in the country who hasn’t seen a storm cloud?
There’s not a hint of rain on the horizon, & hasn’t been for weeks.

Which means the pub ought to be teeming with people and yet here you are telling us you haven’t seen a rain cloud.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:13 pm

JC I notice you are still an arsehole on this site.

Ted, I know, it’s huge failing on my part.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JC I notice you are still an arsehole on this site.

Runner, you omitted the “Welcome to Country” on your posted comment.
It goes something like:
“Always was, always will be”

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:14 pm

That’s very very hurtful Drills.

But what’s going on at the pub. Tell us.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Which means the pub ought to be teeming with people

Explain the methodology used in making that determination.

and yet here you are telling us you haven’t seen a rain cloud.

Wtf has that has to do with the price of fish in Japan?

Are you feeling well? Is the 3rd/4th jab affecting you?

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:16 pm

Driller

I swear, I don’t get any satisfaction from hearing about other people’s slides. There’s no fun in that. What’s going on?

cohenite
November 13, 2021 7:17 pm

Good body language analysis of Rittenhouse. The prosecution guy is a dog, bending and breaking every rule; and while the Judge and defence lawyers can see through his scum tactics I’m not sure a jury can. Especially interesting is the scumbag’s attempt to get propensity evidence in, which is like Australia’s similar fact evidence:

https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/2021/11/12/body-language-kyle-rittenhouse-trial/?fbclid=IwAR2xnY1Hzzkbg13dGcJSkKLFapQFIegIVw4f11yFLfuYpeERhHcz8wwFMbw

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:19 pm

Explain the methodology used in making that determination.

Saturday evening should be a busy night. You’re short of staff ostensibly and yet you’re here, telling me I’m a “rudite” or some crap . 🙂 What happened?

Wtf has that has to do with the price of fish in Japan?

If you’re short of staff, you would be helping, no?

Rabz
November 13, 2021 7:20 pm
JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:22 pm

Drills

X my heart and promise not to make any hay out of this. What’s going on with the pub. Tell us.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Saturday evening should be a busy night.

Why should it be?

If you’re short of staff, you would be helping, no?

Where should I step in to “help”?
What difference is one person going to make anyway?

After which, who is going to perform my usual tasks?

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 7:25 pm

Yes.

I haven’t seen a comprehensive overhead video, and I tend to guess conservatively regardless. The MCG standard is what I try to use. Still, the hypothetical MCG is filling up. You could easily be right with your estimate. Last week I left when the crowd grew too big to be safe in, and it was a short trip out. Today, same thing, but much harder to get out. Much. And Bourke Street was rammed solid as far as I could see.

There is still hope.

As Mater witnessed – crammed in like sardines – or words to that effect.
Next week could be a doozy if that repugnant ‘Pandemic Bill” is passed this week!

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:26 pm

Drills

Let me say this. One time, I complained about blood thinning drugs that I take and your response was very compassionate. I really appreciated that. If you’re having problems with the pub, I offer the same feelings back. Honestly, I hope you’ve been going well.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 7:26 pm

“Always was, always will be”

“And which was never conceded” (as I heard this week in a stupid work meeting) signalling even more guilt trip bullshit.

The “welcome to country” is compelled speech.

Just f*ck off, you sanctimonious white middle class middle aged hypocrites.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:28 pm

Back to stoushing and being an arsehole. Where’s the Rones? ( But who is Rones or Ronery? I don’t know.)

Cassie of Sydney
November 13, 2021 7:30 pm

“The prosecution guy is a dog, bending and breaking every rule”

No…an insult to our canine friends who are loyal and decent. The prosecution guy is no doubt a Demonrat

Rabz
November 13, 2021 7:30 pm

JC – enough. Sal’s not worth your venom.

Here’s a Goose Springsteen song for your edification … 🙂

“We live way out in the Hills”

Where in NJ is that, Squire?

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:30 pm

cohenite says:
November 13, 2021 at 7:17 pm

Good body language analysis of Rittenhouse. The prosecution guy is a dog, bending and breaking every rule; and while the Judge and defence lawyers can see through his scum tactics I’m not sure a jury can. Especially interesting is the scumbag’s attempt to get propensity evidence in, which is like Australia’s similar fact evidence:

I think the jury is going to try to fuck over the kid.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 13, 2021 7:31 pm

“And which was never conceded” (as I heard this week in a stupid work meeting) signalling even more guilt trip bullshit.

You could mount an almost theological argument as to whether a nomadic, hunter gatherer culture ever understood the concept of “sovereignty” in the first place.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 13, 2021 7:32 pm

Night shift has clocked on early I see.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:32 pm

Oh God.

JMH
JMH
November 13, 2021 7:33 pm

Rabzsays:
November 13, 2021 at 7:26 pm
“Always was, always will be”

Some trollop jumped in front of Rukshan at today’s march with a sign saying exactly that.
Just as well I was on my own and nobody heard what I uttered!

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:35 pm

You could mount an almost theological argument as to whether a nomadic, hunter gatherer culture ever understood the concept of “sovereignty” in the first place.

They would have understood tribal territories and rough boundaries, you complete imbecile. Not all of the tribes were nomadic. STFU and get back under your racist rock.

Winston Smith
November 13, 2021 7:36 pm

srr:

What China is Doing to Kill Us All

The fishing fleets are just another example of the Chinese habit of taking everything that’s not nailed down, then screaming racist when people object.
I’m surprised some of these nations having their fish stocks plundered haven’t taken direct action.
A lot of the vessels shown in the clip would go under quite quickly from even a 50mm HE shell.
Anyone want to start a Pirates-R-Us Franchise?
NADT – 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

What’s going on with the pub. Tell us.

We knocked the rear wall out of the cash office, & expanded the room threefold, as part of a longstanding plan to redevelop my private suite of offices.
We stalled at that this afternoon, while I tick over in my mind for a few days where I want more shelves, some chicane-walls, and where I want to reposition the safe.

I know how much architechtural type stuff interests you.
Perhaps you could help, how many sofas should I put into my private office? Should they all be able to see the TV, or is being within easy reach of the phone more important?

Roger
Roger
November 13, 2021 7:37 pm

Today’s demo attracted just over 1% of Melbournians, or even less, given that population stat is five years’ old.

The BEM is laughing at youse, laughing – incessantly.

On the bright side, they’re only 24% points from being a catalyst for major social change according to the generally accepted politicial scientific rubric on such things. That’s not too many disaffected Labor, Liberal & non-committed voters to win over, especially if lockdowns & vaccine & mask mandates continue sporadically and indefinitely, as has been flagged. The mainstream political parties can’t even manage that percentage in memberships, let aone get them out on to the streets. The emperor has no clothes.

Crossie
Crossie
November 13, 2021 7:40 pm

Mater says:
November 13, 2021 at 5:15 pm
Channel 10 News at 5 reported ‘more than 10,000’ at the Rally.
Yes, many more than.

Channel 7 said one thousand when anyone could see it was far more than that. They are completely arrogant now as if saying “So what are you going to do about it?”

All we can do is not watch them.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:42 pm

Perhaps you could help, how many sofas should I put into my private office? Should they all be able to see the TV, or is being within easy reach of the phone more important

?

You should never have sofas in an office. Two of these would be fine. And the TV should only be seen from the office desk and chair.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 7:42 pm

Yeah grate, Rog. Tell it to us in (just over) 12 months’ time. 🙁

Crossie
Crossie
November 13, 2021 7:44 pm

“mh says:
November 12, 2021 at 10:43 pm

Sieg Heil!

‘Austria province to place millions of unvaccinated people in Covid lockdown

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg says: ‘I don’t see why two-thirds should lose their freedom because one-third is dithering’”

Anschluss yet again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 13, 2021 7:44 pm

Not all of the tribes were nomadic.

Quite correct. They lived in villages of up to a thousand people, grew crops, and domesticated animals.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Rabzsays:
November 13, 2021 at 7:30 pm

JC – enough. Sal’s not worth your venom.

Rabz: His “venom” is over-rated.
Let him keep knocking his head against a wall. It’s hardly goin to worry me. 😉

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:47 pm

Actually, they did live in village type arrangements right up north near on and around the Gulf, you pathetic clown.

Rones, stop pretending you have an IQ higher than 72 as it’s offensive to the the rest of us here. You left high school in 8th grade.

Crossie
Crossie
November 13, 2021 7:48 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
November 13, 2021 at 5:45 pm
“Very well done that man! Pity the pathetically piss poor Victorian LNP senators have pea sized hearts and even smaller brains.”

Don’t forget the utterly useless scumbag NSW LNP senators……..Andrew Bragg, Holly Hughes and the all talk and no action man…..Jim Molan.

I regret voting for Jim Molan as he has not kept faith with his voters. I know he has been ill but did he need to sell out?

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:50 pm

And even nomadic people have rough boundaries that don’t impinge on other tribes and groups.

Dot
Dot
November 13, 2021 7:52 pm

This is actually great news.

Someone posted it before.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10193793/Liberal-senator-Alex-Antic-revolts-vaccine-mandates.html

Scott Morrison reeling after SECOND Liberal senator threatens to pull support for Government legislation in protest over state vaccine mandates
Last week Queensland senator Gerard Rennick said he’d abstain from voting
SA senator Alex Antic, also against jab mandates, intends to follow Rennick
Pauline Hanson’s One Nation has vowed to vote against all Government bills
The rebellion leaves Scott Morrison effectively unable to pass any laws

Unfortunately the election will be in May (most likely) and cannot be held any later.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

You should never have sofas in an office.

Why not?
I’m not all that keen at sleeping on the floor.

cohenite
November 13, 2021 7:54 pm

Quite correct. They lived in villages of up to a thousand people, grew crops, and domesticated animals.

And had a space program.

Rabz
November 13, 2021 7:55 pm

Sal – enuff.

It’s a Saturday night. We need to be enjoying ourselves (for a change) – JC loves Goose Springsteen tunes even (slightly) more than he loves neo-brutalism.

The more of those tunes that get played, the less he’s prone to regrettable outbursts, thus saving his energy to admire many hideous white brutalist ovoid boxes inexcusably (and inexplicably) transplanted into environments that were least suited to them. 🙂

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 7:55 pm

Looks far too casual, drills. You’re all business in the office.
Have armchairs like those I chose and you can even pretend you’re like me.

Roger
Roger
November 13, 2021 7:56 pm

Yeah grate, Rog. Tell it to us in (just over) 12 months’ time.

The future of Victoria is in the hands of Victorians.

That being said, to cite an historical analogy, the White Russian cause post-1917 may have been doomed, but at least they were willing to fight for it.

I’d rather cast my lot with that type than submit meekly to tyranny.

cohenite
November 13, 2021 7:59 pm

Huge crowd at today’s melbournistan protest:

https://www.facebook.com/TOTTNews/videos/895214464460928

Rabz
November 13, 2021 8:01 pm

the White Russian cause post-1917 may have been doomed, but at least they were willing to fight for it

Someone posted a fantastic comment about the phenomenon above. The whites V the reds.
Twostix, if I’m not incorrect?

To cut along story short, we can never go back to the illusory “freedoms” we “enjoyed” in 2019.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Looks far too casual, drills. You’re all business in the office.

How is anybody going to know?
I’m hardly going to let anybody into my private office.

Salesmen, staff, & the like who want to see me, they’re received in my room in the main administration office.

JC
JC
November 13, 2021 8:07 pm

Funny, but not so funny story. There’s a series that just started on Apple+ TV based on a real story about how a psychiatrist was financially abusing one of his patients to the extent of taking over his finances and entire life. Wifey was friendly with someone who either was related or knew the victim. She heard about this decades ago.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 8:09 pm

That being said, to cite an historical analogy, the White Russian cause post-1917 may have been doomed, but at least they were willing to fight for it.

I’d rather cast my lot with that type than submit meekly to tyranny.

This starts to sound pertinent.

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”.

Not that I’m feeling particularly hairy-chested, but yeah.

Mater
November 13, 2021 8:09 pm

Nothing to base this on but Rukshan’s visuals – I would have thought more than that.
Last week’s march was estimated at over 20,000.

I was there with am ex senior cop who put the number at at least 50,000.
He’s seen his share of crowds and said it would have filled at least half the MCG.
Could have been more, could have been a few less…but it’s not a bad guess.

Winston Smith
November 13, 2021 8:12 pm

Tucker on the inflation issue in the US.
When this poop hits the aircon, it’s going to be very unpleasant.

PeterW
PeterW
November 13, 2021 8:13 pm

And even nomadic people have rough boundaries that don’t impinge on other tribes and groups.

What historical record we have suggests that they fought like Kilkenny Cats.

“You cross our boundary, we kill you.
We cross your boundary, we kill you.”

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 13, 2021 8:14 pm

ABC full on German Covid crisis.
“The pandemic of the unvaccinated”
It’s very hard to find any evidence of this apart from MSM crap and anecdotal citing of doctors in certain hospitals claiming 90% of patients in ICU are unvaccinated.
Pushing mandates that aren’t law in Germany no doubt.
They’re lying, we know they’re lying, they don’t care.

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