Open Thread – Weekend 13 Nov 2021


Partie aus Amsterdam, August von Siegen, late 18th C

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Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 9:37 am

Nah, she dresses more like Miss Kitty from Gunsmoke

Anyone got a spare flux capacitor?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 9:38 am

Norm MacDonald didn’t have much respect for sketch comics such as Micallef.
Anyone can join a pile on, where’s the humor in that?

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 9:39 am

Anyone can join a pile on, where’s the humor in that?

You’re at the bottom.

Cassie of Sydney
November 14, 2021 9:40 am

Tom…..I accidentally reported your comment at 9.11…..apologies.

DB…..please ignore it.

custard
custard
November 14, 2021 9:48 am

Any Cats who were at the Melbourne protest yesterday care to put a number on the turnout?

Pictures I’ve seen would put it at 50k + surely?

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 9:53 am

“Cold-Hands says:
November 14, 2021 at 2:09 am
Drone footage of the Melbourne protest giving a overview of the numbers involved.
PureDuckFat @ripple83
#auspol

Melbourne Pandemic Bill protest 80k plus in attendance
13-11-2021
@TuckerCarlson

Crowd Time-lapse -13.11.21 Protest against the permanent pandemic legislation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZFEkyBznGs

Nov 14, 2021
Real Rukshan
34.7K subscribers
Crowd time-lapse from the protest against the permanent pandemic legislation in Melbourne, Australia. 13.11.21
****

Now, try and reconcile that with these “NUMBERS”, without admitting the E-Petition is Disallowing Signatures AND Going Backwards=REMOVING them –

Total signatures including previously tabled
11124

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/council/petitions/electronic-petitions/view-e-petitions/details/12/415

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 14, 2021 9:55 am

I wouldn’t take the risk with Aldi embalming fluid. Or a house brand.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 14, 2021 9:56 am

I don’t think Covaxin have lodged an application with the “all knowing” TGA?

What’s there to stop ScoMo requesting it? It’s his TGA.

Recall that he ordered Pfizer, AZ and Novovax without waiting for TGA approval.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 9:56 am

I note the usual suspects up thread bad mouthing the delightful Daisy Cousens. You’re like fleas sucking on the blood of this delightful damsel, living vicariously through her beauteous and scintillating visage and her uncanny intelligence. Out, out damned spots, you are curs.

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 9:57 am

custard says:
November 14, 2021 at 9:48 am
Any Cats who were at the Melbourne protest yesterday care to put a number on the turnout?

Pictures I’ve seen would put it at 50k + surely?

Custard, I’m going with the “OVER 80,000” number, because neither Rukshan’s time lapse & the drone footage nor cover the same sort of crowds down the others street coming into the intersection.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2021 9:59 am

He thought he was headed to the Lodge. Never even considered that a barking mad woman he couldn’t remember was going to derail that gravy train.”

I wonder if Christian Porter ever regrets making the move to Federal politics – Colin Barnett was grooming him to take over as State Premier when he (Barnett) stepped down.

MatrixTransform
November 14, 2021 10:09 am
custard
custard
November 14, 2021 10:11 am

srr

Correct, the footage on the internet shows a lot of Bourke street but not much going either way down Spring street.

Has there ever been a bigger protest in this country?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 14, 2021 10:18 am

Emperor Barney wasn’t going anywhere, whatever he said. He was going to have been blasted out Keating-Hawke style. At best Porter may have avoided the Sneakers dynasty.

Indolent
Indolent
November 14, 2021 10:18 am

H B Bearsays:
November 14, 2021 at 8:33 am
Indolent – I think you are giving SloMo too much credit.

Who was it who said, right at the beginning (last year?) that everyone would have to take the vaccine, and then equivocated when there was pushback? He said it, and he meant it. He also said that this would be a different place by Christmas. Again, he said it and he meant it.

Let me put it this way. What would Scummo have done differently if he had deliberately sold us out?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 10:25 am

Scotty has already spent $123 million on 25 million Covax doses, plus another $130 million for the facility, so it’s a lay down misere that the TGA will approve it.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/about-rollout/vaccine-agreements

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2021 10:25 am

Bob Brown Foundation facing extinction after $100,000 claim
Exclusive
Matthew Denholm
TASMANIA CORRESPONDENT
10:42PM November 12, 2021
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Environmentalist Bob Brown’s activist foundation faces a potentially crippling $100,000 lawsuit from a mining company over ­protests that have disrupted ore production and shipping.

Venture Minerals on Friday ­issued a legal demand on the Bob Brown Foundation for $100,359, as damages for delays to produc­tion at its Riley Creek mine in northwest Tasmania and disruption to Burnie ore shipments.

The company, whose operations at multiple sites in the state’s northwest have been plagued by protests, has warned it will take court action unless the damages are paid within weeks.

Its actions are expected to be condemned by the BBF and wider environment movement as reminiscent of the “Gunns20” lawsuits the timber company Gunns pursued against activists in the 2000s.

Such a significant sum – if recovered – could threaten the ­viability of the BBF, a growing not-for-profit organisation committed to direct action on environmental issues ranging from forestry and mining to salmon farming and Antarctic protection.

However, Venture’s lawyers, Davis Advisory, stressed in a letter to the foundation and eight of its activists that it did not oppose peaceful, lawful protest.

“VML does not oppose your legal right to your views and to peaceful protest … rather, its concern is when that protest action unreasonably and illegally interferes with VML’s legal right to conduct its operations and it suffers loss and damage as a result,” the letter reads.

“If payment is not received … VML reserves its rights to commence legal action to recover those costs against the Bob Brown Foundation and its members and agents, without further notice.”

Venture told The Weekend Australian it hoped its actions against the foundation would “send a clear signal to the BBF that other people and companies should not and will not bear the ­financial consequences of BBF’s unlawful actions”.

Venture claims BBF-organised protests between March and September cost it extra stevedoring and ship berthing charges, freight and trucking costs, and loss of revenue, including from missed mining and processing production.

“VML has a right to conduct its operations pursuant to its statutory approvals, without unreasonable interruption or delay,” the company’s legal letter reads.

“Those operations include the right to extract and transport ore product from the Riley Creek mine, and to ship it out of the Port of Burnie to its customers in a timely manner.”

The foundation said on Friday it was yet receive the letter, but continued causing headaches for Venture, disrupting its display at a Noosa mining investor forum, as well as drilling operations near Mt Lindsay, in northwest Tasmania.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 14, 2021 10:26 am

Ask Cuddly Costello about the value of those agreements for a smooth handover after the next election.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 14, 2021 10:30 am

Hu Xijin, the head of The Global Times, tweeted the pointed threat on Saturday night.
“If Australian troops come to fight in the Taiwan Straits, it is unimaginable that China won’t carry out a heavy attack on them and the Australian military facilities that support them,” he wrote.
“So Australia better be prepared to sacrifice for Taiwan island and the US.”
He ended the message with a thumbs-up emoji.

I think I see the problem.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 14, 2021 10:31 am

Point of interest for Ed October this morning. On This Day:

1851 – Moby-Dick, a novel by Herman Melville, is published in the USA.

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 10:31 am

Custard, I can’t recall seeing anything as big as these Melbourne Protests that are essentially Against Daniel Andrews Govt & All the Globalist Evils he’s been inflicting on us.

Now I’ve always been a little suspect of those who try to play down the numbers of any NON-Leftist/ Professionally Organised & PAID To Turn Out, Protests, because as a people we simply aren’t the “Mob Against ‘Our’ Govt” types.

This means any turnout is a reflection of many more with the same opinion, yet even here at the cat we have people both ‘guesstemating’ low protest numbers and accepting that the ONLY 11,000+ signatures AGAINST Daniel Andrews ‘Hitler-esque Powers’ Bill are a genuine count, despite how many have had to have multiple attempts to sign AND the Count actually GOING BACKWARDS.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 10:32 am

Who was it who said, right at the beginning (last year?) that everyone would have to take the vaccine, and then equivocated when there was pushback?

Joyce says anyone not planning to be vaxxed is in for a rude awakening.
Albanese says everyone is getting it, no exceptions.
At least with Scotty’s approach we’ve been given a bit of time.
The National Cabinet puts Andrews in the spotlight, something he hasn’t handled too well.

Vicki
Vicki
November 14, 2021 10:33 am

Ed, the Covid referred to by the TGA is an international facility got the distribution of vaccines. It is not Petrovsky’s Covax19, which I wondered if you thought it may refer to.

Vicki
Vicki
November 14, 2021 10:33 am

Sorry that should be Covax not Covid. Spellchecker interfering !

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 10:37 am

Scotty bought 25 million doses, cash upfront, so, yeah, it is a vaccine.
He also gave them $130 million, so far, for the facility.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2021 10:39 am

Parents of Aishwarya Aswath want $5m ex-gratia payment after her death at Perth Children’s Hospital
Joe SpagnoloThe West Australian
Sat, 13 November 2021 7:46PM

The grief-stricken parents of Aishwarya Aswath will ask the State Government for a $5 million ex-gratia payment after the death of their daughter at Perth Children’s Hospital in April.

Family spokesman Suresh Rajan said on Saturday the ex-gratia payment claim would be in addition to expected further claims for compensation in the civil court.

Mr Suresh said the ex-gratia payment would be raised at a meeting with Health Minister Roger Cook on Thursday, following a damning report attributing her death to a series of system failures.

“It is difficult for (the family) to quantify exactly how much it (ex-gratia payment) should be,” Mr Rajan said.

“But you would expect from based on what we have seen from other ex-gratia payments, you are probably not going to be looking at anything less than $5 million.

“That would be the very minimum.

“We have a meeting scheduled with the Health Minister for Thursday, and that is the time we will flag that.”

In April this year, Aswath Chavittupara and Prasitha Sasidharan took their seven-year-old daughter to PCH for help after she came became ill.

The child had a temperature of 38.8C, her “floppy body” under an attack from an illness that has since been identified as sepsis. But despite Aishwarya’s parents pleading for help and after two hours waiting in emergency, she was pronounced dead after 9pm.

An internal inquiry report found staff did not correctly identify the signs of sepsis.

Another inquiry, by the Australian Commission on Safety and Quality in Health Care — released this week — found a number of “contextual factors” may have contributed to her death.

All that money will go into the foundation that we are in the process of establishing.

There were 30 recommendations in the report, including securing adequate nursing and medical staffing, and giving parents the opportunity to escalate care.

The WA Government has over the years granted ex-gratia payments to various claimants.

Tom
Tom
November 14, 2021 10:45 am

Has there ever been a bigger protest in this country?

Yes, Custard. I was a spotty young country kid who happened on one of the anti-Vietnam marches in the early 1970s, where the crowd stretched from the Queen Street hill in the Melbourne CBD all the way to State Parliament in Spring Street 1.2 kms away.

There would have been no change from 200,000 people that day.

The difference was: a) it was very fashionable; c) the news media hadn’t taken an ideological position against the protest and therefore wasn’t underreporting the size of the protest to take the side of the government.

I wasn’t there yesterday, but because the news media is so culpably misreporting protests against the Andrews government, participants are entitled to regard the media as an enemy of the people that it never used to be.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 10:46 am

The Bottom line in all this is that colossal sums have been spent on vaccines for a disease that doesn’t appear to exist [witness Italy revising the death toll down from 130,000 to 3,000, further downward revisions are likely].
Scotty’s approach appears to be to kick the can down the road.
Not courageous, you say.
Perhaps not.
Albanese [and Joyce] are more or less saying you’ll be dragged out of your house and injected at gunpoint.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 14, 2021 10:50 am

Has there ever been a bigger protest in this country?

There was an anti-Kirner protest in the dying days of the her gubmint.
The crowd stretched from parliament house to Vic. Barracks.
Bourke, Collins and Spring streets were packed with people. Solid people back to Swanston.
St Kilda road back to vic barracks was packed.

The ABCess said that there was a few hundred protesters .

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 10:52 am

Vietnamese Communists Eat Golden Steak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNoO3wm5x8

Nov 14, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

Winston Smith
November 14, 2021 10:53 am

Indolentsays:
November 13, 2021 at 10:35 pm
The Left’s Bungled Revolution
If you missed reading this, please take the opportunity to do so now.
There’s a light at the end of the tunnel and it’s not an oncoming train – it’s the Karma Bus and it is shining the lamp of Hope.
And it’s coming for the Left and all their freaky mates.

MatrixTransform
November 14, 2021 10:53 am

https://twitter.com/R_Impiombato/status/1459628903673126912

theyre marketing youse as deplorables

not because they want youse de-legitimated

no

they just want to legitimate what they’re gonna do next.

custard
custard
November 14, 2021 10:54 am

Well I’m going to the protest next week to be held in Forest Place.

My “let’s go Brandon “ t-shirt arrived last week. Who hooo!

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 14, 2021 10:55 am

Mother Russia would have got the crowds out. Those were dark days indeed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2021 10:58 am

Well I’m going to the protest next week to be held in Forest Place.

I’m remembering the protest in Forrest Place, when Gough Whitlam called a group of angry farmers “Lazy bludgers, who’ve never had it so good” and wondered why they were unkind enough to pelt him with anything that came to hand…

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 10:58 am

yet even here at the cat we have people both ‘guesstemating’ low protest numbers

If you want blind acceptance then all you are is the opposing team and not an alternative to circus.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 14, 2021 10:58 am

You don’t get the same feeling or numbers at a WA protest. Everybody is on the back of their boat at Rotto.

Winston Smith
November 14, 2021 11:00 am

Indolent:

Absolutely brilliant presentation. Could not be clearer. The virus is the vector for the poison – the spike protein.

Until Bitchute starts presenting in formats > 56k and not having subtitles, it isn’t worth trying to watch them. I’ve asked on many occasions for the subtitle option but until they provide them I don’t watch.

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 11:04 am

cohenitesays:
November 14, 2021 at 9:56 am
I note the usual suspects up thread bad mouthing the delightful Daisy Cousens. You’re like fleas sucking on the blood of this delightful damsel, living vicariously through her beauteous and scintillating visage and her uncanny intelligence. Out, out damned spots, you are curs.

Make sure you tip your Fedora, you supreme gentleman.

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 11:05 am

bespoke says:
November 14, 2021 at 10:58 am

yet even here at the cat we have people both ‘guesstemating’ low protest numbers

If you want blind acceptance then all you are is the opposing team and not an alternative to circus.

Well said bespoke.

To blindly accept the word of mobs of anonymous names that claim one thing in theory but display another thing in practice, is simple minded mob following.

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 11:07 am

No more teasers, here it is!

https://www.ldp.org.au/freedom?utm_campaign=fm_release_all_members&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ldp

Australia is in peril. Typically when a nation faces a grave challenge it is because of international tension or an economic slump. The national trial we face is caused by a failure of political leadership. Our state and federal leaders from both major parties have proven themselves inept.

We will overcome this challenge and do so with strength, but we need real leadership.

Australia had the world’s fastest growing economy in the 20th century. Over the past decade however the major parties have abandoned the economic principles which delivered so much success. They still talk about low taxes and balanced budgets but in practice have become reform sloths.

Their extraordinary over-reaction to COVID has only magnified our accumulating economic woes. In the name of ‘zero-COVID’ we have doubled an already dangerously high commonwealth debt. Misplaced COVID hysteria has violated what many assumed were inviolable civil liberties. When citizens fear the police more than the virus, we have a crisis. We are now internationally infamous for going further down this dark COVID path than any other nation.

Australian federal politics needs a radical jolt.

Hopefully the UAP and PHON also put on a jolly good show. The political establishment (LNP, ALP, GRN) need to be swept into the dustbin of history.

Bruce in WA
November 14, 2021 11:09 am

Your favourite song, ever.
Must have been released after December 31 1959.

Bob Seger — We’ve got tonight

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 11:12 am

AussieSlave @AussieSlave 15m
· Australia
Climate change has made things so bad our dams are overflowing. How will we survive??

Warragamba Dam hits capacity and starts to spill after heavy rainfall.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/nsw-warragamba-dam-hits-100-per-cent-commence-spill-rain-weather/9ad6df24-d67e-44e9-9b06-abd3c98a9fb5

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 11:14 am

That PRGuy is really astonishing.

“Anarchist right wingers threaten democracy by opposing Dan being a dictator!”

It’s not far off to suggest Premier for life is essential to a functioning Parliamentary democracy.

I’m gobsmacked people lap this nonsense up like mother’s milk.

If I was in the Vicco ALP, I’d be gunning for Premier and then try to get the bat ear mong to shut up and retire. What are their meetings like? I can’t imagine they all think he’s a messiah? Quite frankly he’s quite dumb, poorly educated and lacks life experience

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 11:15 am

Climate change has made things so bad our dams are overflowing. How will we survive??

Haha! You climate change deniers. It will never rain heavily again. The dams will run dry. The only way out is a carbon tax and a command economy.

MatrixTransform
November 14, 2021 11:22 am

Focused and strongly anti authoritarian. Some snippets. I can’t give it all away!

check your mail

shatterzzz
November 14, 2021 11:22 am

In complete AWE of this bloke .. I luv swimming and even though I can spot him more half a century in age even in my younger years 5kms was my end of tether effort and I’m long, long past that now .. at 73 I’m finding 2kms over, near, 2 hours is more within my comfort zone .. 48kMS IN 10 HOURS .. WOW! ..
‘course being BAT FLU media era it doesn’t rate amongst the headlines ……
https://www.9news.com.au/national/sydney-teenager-swims-62-laps-on-bondi-beach-for-charity-new-south-wales/bd6f6802-e5d5-4553-b647-f8ebf68af3fb

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 14, 2021 11:25 am

Daisy Couzens is a fake. There. I’ve said it.

An over made-up (she could probably be quite serviceable, if not stunning without the two inches of render), over-enunciating nostalgia-themed overused mouthpiece.

Her themes – what she speaks of – is first-class, but for mine quite a bit of the impact is lost on delivery.

MatrixTransform
November 14, 2021 11:28 am

unintentionally highlights the big problem of charging EV’s

is that an LCD screen?

…better get rid of the polaroids before driving

MatrixTransform
November 14, 2021 11:32 am

Anyone can join a pile on, where’s the humor in that?

tre chic … thongs with socks

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 14, 2021 11:34 am

A Border and ChriS Rhea, what other charms SSR? What are you like at digging out tree stumps, removing lath and plaster and pulling out double brested fireplaces as a start?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 14, 2021 11:34 am

Knuckles/Vyvyan
Felicity Kendall/Daisey Couzens

“Well, you can just shut up, Vyvyan. You can just about bloomin’ well shut up! ‘Cause if you’ve got anything horrid to say about Felicity Kendall, you can just about bloomin’ well say it to me first! All right?!”
“Rick, I just did.”
https://t.co/D653LGhEb1

Cassie of Sydney
November 14, 2021 11:34 am

“Daisy Couzens is a fake. There. I’ve said it.

An over made-up (she could probably be quite serviceable, if not stunning without the two inches of render), over-enunciating nostalgia-themed overused mouthpiece.

Her themes – what she speaks of – is first-class, but for mine quite a bit of the impact is lost on delivery.”

Daisy is an actress….quite theatrical. I like her….she’s switched on and involved in the culture wars. However she’s not a journalist…like Rita or Gemma Tognini. I don’t mind Daisy occasionally but I would not want her as a permanent replacement for Rita. They’d be better off with someone like Alexandra Marshall…who is more measured and less over the top!

Oh….message to the Victorians here, anyone see Groundhog Guy at yesterday’s protest? Has Groundhog Guy said anything to support yesterday’s protesters? Or is he…and the Victorian Liberals missing in action…yet again? Let me guess…MIA?

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 11:35 am

Climate change has made things so bad our dams are overflowing. How will we survive??

Tim Flannery predicted this very thing. Dams would be overflowing and we wouldn’t require desal plants.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 14, 2021 11:36 am

thongs with socks

like knitted condoms

JMH
JMH
November 14, 2021 11:38 am

Her themes – what she speaks of – is first-class, but for mine quite a bit of the impact is lost on delivery.

It’s the sound of that screechy little voice that drives me from Outsiders.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 11:38 am

When citizens fear the police more than the virus, we have a crisis.

Heh, more LDP weasel speak.
I don’t know anyone who knows anyone who’s had the virus.
Allow me to correct LDP Policy to reflect reality.
When citizens fear The Police more than they fear being injected repeatedly with a mystery substance, yeah, Houston, we have a problem.

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 11:39 am

tre chic … thongs with socks

It is. But only in winter.

areff
areff
November 14, 2021 11:45 am

Nick McCallum on 3AW has just hit the apparatchik’s talking point: One man in a crowd of 60,000(3) was spotted brandishing three nooses. Therefore, the protest was a call to violence.

There fun thing will be hearing finger-in-the-wind Neil Mitchell switch tacks tomorrow. When the first protest happened, as far as he was concerned the marchers were ratbags, anti-vax fanatics, tinfoil-hatters and spoiling for a fight with police.

Then he was against ‘some provisions’ in the tyranny bill, but the protesters were still hooligans Tomorrow, you bet he’ll be one with people.

Won’t someone with a low-rating Melbourne station please, please give 3AW some competition. Maybe Clive should buy some bandwidth.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 14, 2021 11:52 am

One man in a crowd of 60,000(3) was spotted brandishing three nooses.

I’m surprised the red shirt Danbots know how to tie a knot.0

Zipster
Zipster
November 14, 2021 11:57 am
Diogenes
Diogenes
November 14, 2021 11:58 am

What I saw on Qld Nein news last night looked pretty evenhanded. They said 10s of ooos ,interviewed what looked like a lefty, and a cross section of the community, and no obvious garage nasties/lunatic anti vaxxers.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 14, 2021 12:01 pm

Did the turtles attend the protest march?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 14, 2021 12:04 pm

areff, take it easy on Neil, he is just trying to keep his job.
Without gubmint and ALP advertising, Neil’s job and probably 3AW would disappear.

MatrixTransform
November 14, 2021 12:08 pm

finger-in-the-wind Neil Mitchell

Neil ‘weathervane’ Mitchell

pointless on a windy day

useless on a calm day

Rabz
November 14, 2021 12:16 pm

OK, Cohenite, I’ll bite.

I do not dislike Daisy Cousens nor do I think she is unattractive. I just wish she’d tone down her melodramatic style a bit (OK, a lot).

You’re not auditioning for a role in “Gone with the wind”, sweetie.

Rabz
November 14, 2021 12:21 pm

Neil Mitchell

Is a joke. About as useless as Gay Ray Hadley.

shatterzzz
November 14, 2021 12:21 pm

Your favourite song, ever.
Must have been released after December 31 1959.

he’ll Have To Go .. Jim Reeves ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvlUrNRRE4E

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 14, 2021 12:31 pm

Felicity Kendall was smoking hot.

I would have whispered sweet nothings in her ear.

At the time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2021 12:34 pm

Felicity Kendall was smoking hot.

There was rather a smashing piece of kit, indeed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2021 12:41 pm

Daily Mail.

Legendary thriller writer Wilbur Smith dies ‘unexpectedly’ at home in Cape Town aged 88 having spent the morning reading and writing with his wife Niso

Author Wilbur Smith, 88, died on Saturday afternoon at his home in Cape Town
The South African novelist had spent the morning reading with his wife Niso
The legendary thriller author sold more than 140 million books in 30 languages
Many of his 49 novels following the Courtney family’s exploits across the globe

areff
areff
November 14, 2021 12:44 pm

Funky Caili (Bridie’s Song) has a good beat and you dance to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap7UBUUNC9k

rickw
rickw
November 14, 2021 12:50 pm

One man in a crowd of 60,000(3) was spotted brandishing three nooses.

I was thinking that a gallows made with items sourced entirely from Bunnings might be a nice project.

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 12:51 pm

Why We Need to Kill The Bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nw4WEoo3KE

Nov 14, 2021
Discernable

29.5K subscribers
Why did 40,000+ Victorians march through the streets yesterday (Sat 13 Nov 2021)?

Overwhelmingly they were protesting ‘the bill’ which is the Public Health and Wellbeing Amendment (Pandemic Management) Bill 2021
Bill.

Here are two other groups who are warning against the draconian laws which have already passed the lower house, and will be pushed through the upper house this week:

The Victorian Bar President and 60 Queen’s counsel (QC); and
the Law Institute of Victoria (LIV) representing 20,000 legal professionals.

The LIV goes so far as to say ‘it would be better to have no pandemic powers for a brief period during COVID-19 than rush an imperfect, controversial new bill through parliament’.

This segment is from a full interview with Constitutional expert Dr Ben Saunders from Deakin University: https://youtu.be/XETOB3fP_U0

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 12:52 pm

Rabz says:
November 14, 2021 at 12:16 pm

OK, Cohenite, I’ll bite.

I do not dislike Daisy Cousens nor do I think she is unattractive. I just wish she’d tone down her melodramatic style a bit (OK, a lot).

You’re not auditioning for a role in “Gone with the wind”, sweetie.

Rabz, forget it. Cronkite only watches movies that are a minimum 50 years old. Unless a sheila is wearing a 20’s slapper outfit, cronkite won’t go for her.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 12:55 pm

I’m confused now. Was the term slapper or flapper from the 20 era?

rosie
rosie
November 14, 2021 12:57 pm

Flapper

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 12:58 pm

rosie would know.

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 1:01 pm

Damb to slow.

shatterzzz
November 14, 2021 1:02 pm

Popular cruise .. LOL! the Queen Elizabeth entering New York Harbour, 1945

https://ibb.co/QbtPvFY

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 1:08 pm

The top end of the British Isle looks fucked. Used to once lead the world in science and tech. Get a load of this female pretending she’s female.

Crossie
Crossie
November 14, 2021 1:11 pm

Has there ever been a bigger protest in this country?

About twenty years ago the Greek community came out in huge numbers in Sydney to protest poor Macedonians calling their country as it was know for over a thousand years. Every Greek in Sydney must have come out to stroll down George Street. It was estimated at 50 to 100k.

The eventual result of the protest and Greece’s objections in the EU is that the country became know as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia or FYROM. I think they have now officially changed the name to North Macedonia.

rosie
rosie
November 14, 2021 1:13 pm

Nice try bespoke

Crossie
Crossie
November 14, 2021 1:13 pm

Dot says:
November 14, 2021 at 11:04 am
cohenitesays:
November 14, 2021 at 9:56 am
I note the usual suspects up thread bad mouthing the delightful Daisy Cousens. You’re like fleas sucking on the blood of this delightful damsel, living vicariously through her beauteous and scintillating visage and her uncanny intelligence. Out, out damned spots, you are curs.
Make sure you tip your Fedora, you supreme gentleman.

I’m a woman and I like Daisy. There are so few young women on the conservative side, let’s not drive off anyone. If you don’t fancy her, keep it to yourself.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 14, 2021 1:14 pm

Australia can be a world-leading source of infinite inexhaustible stupidity.

Australia can become a ‘renewable energy superpower’: Albanese (14 Nov)

Mr Albanese said the Sun Cable renewable energy project in the Northern Territory was an example of Australia’s renewable energy export potential.

“Sun Cable will be making the largest solar farm in the world, built in the Northern Territory, exporting energy to Singapore,” he said.

“We can not only be successful nationally, we can be an exporter of clean energy. We can be a renewable energy superpower for the world. All it requires is government leadership.”

Either he’s lying or he’s grade A level stupid. That project is nothing but a subsidy pit and will never be built for even more of the exact same reasons the technically easier Desertec megaproject went bottom up.

I doubt Albo has heard of Desertec, or, for that matter of project financial evaluation, IRR or NPV.

rosie
rosie
November 14, 2021 1:18 pm

Anti Kennett protests were also very big in Melbourne in 1993.
Apparently 100,000.
But given Melbourne’s much lower population in the early 70s (around 2.7 million) you’d need to see 400,000 in a current day protest to be close to the anti war protests back then.

rosie
rosie
November 14, 2021 1:21 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 14, 2021 1:24 pm

The National Cabinet puts Andrews in the spotlight, something he hasn’t handled too well.

What the “National Cabinet” has done is given free rein to all the local tin pot dictators to force an experimental drug on people. Morrison is SOLELY responsible for setting up the means to achieve this and then he just sat back and shrugged while people’s rights were trampled and their health and even sanity put at risk. He’s not a clueless moron, he is outright EVIL.

Kneel
Kneel
November 14, 2021 1:28 pm

“…a heavy attack on them and the Australian military facilities that support them,…”

Ah… well, in that case, a couple of cruise missiles into the 3 Gorges dam seems like it might give you other things to worry about. I’m sure there are a couple of more such dams just as shoddily built over there too…

cohenite
November 14, 2021 1:28 pm

OK, Cohenite, I’ll bite.

I do not dislike Daisy Cousens nor do I think she is unattractive. I just wish she’d tone down her melodramatic style a bit (OK, a lot).

You’re not auditioning for a role in “Gone with the wind”, sweetie.

Damn right, she’s not, she’s already got the part. Daisy is very subtle. She wears a different flower depending on the theme she is discussing. I like her eyes, there’s a bit of steel there.

srr
srr
November 14, 2021 1:33 pm

🙂

GreyRanga says:
November 14, 2021 at 11:34 am
A Border and ChriS Rhea, what other charms SSR? What are you like at digging out tree stumps, removing lath and plaster and pulling out double brested fireplaces as a start?

Well I was 12 when I first broke in a horse, was a general farm labourer by 16, still help a mate out with reno’s, and son & I built a new garden with fish pond last year … they’re just some of my useful skills.
I’m of Eastern European stock (the Beatles were right about us 😉 🙂 ), for whom being useless meant being dead.
I’ve had a long & interesting life, set world records in my chosen field and had to give it up because I won’t get jabbed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 1:40 pm

What the “National Cabinet” has done is given free rein to all the local tin pot dictators to force an experimental drug on people.

The States always had the right to demand mandatory vaccination.
They did that years ago with mandatory childhood vaccinations as a requirement to attend preschools.

Morrison is SOLELY responsible for setting up the means to achieve this

Of course he isn’t, as I say above, Vaccination Programs are solely the business of State Heath Departments.
Christian Porter confirmed this fact when he was Attorney-General.

areff
areff
November 14, 2021 1:41 pm

AAP:

A NSW national park named for a nineteenth century businessman who coerced people from the South Pacific to come to NSW to work on his estates will be renamed in the local Aboriginal language.

NSW Environment Minister Matt Kean announced the decision to rename Ben Boyd National Park on the NSW far south coast on Sunday.

“It is time to acknowledge the real history of Ben Boyd and remove his name from the national park that continues to hold enormous cultural significance for Aboriginal people,” Mr Kean said.

The decision follows a push from local Aboriginal people to drop Ben Boyd’s name because of his association with “blackbirding”.

Blackbirding was the name for kidnapping or tricking Pacific Islanders to work in Australia for no or little pay.

A historian commissioned by the NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service to investigate the Scottish businessman’s history on the south coast found he brought 192 men and women to NSW to work on his estates and ships in 1847….

Matt Kean, another reason not to vote Liberal

Crossie
Crossie
November 14, 2021 1:46 pm

Zipster says:
November 14, 2021 at 11:57 am
Rittenhouse judge receives death threats ahead of verdict

Which is why the judge is now investigating possibilities of a lesser charge on which they could convict him and everybody is saved except of course for Kyle and justice.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 14, 2021 1:48 pm

The ABC laments the decline of Thailand’s premier sex tourist destination, Pattaya. Apparently Covid restrictions have dried up the supply of deviants and paedophiles.

Crossie
Crossie
November 14, 2021 1:49 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
November 14, 2021 at 12:34 pm
Felicity Kendall was smoking hot.
There was rather a smashing piece of kit, indeed.

I suspect you guys may have her confused with Kay Kendall.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 1:49 pm

But given Melbourne’s much lower population in the early 70s (around 2.7 million) you’d need to see 400,000 in a current day protest to be close to the anti war protests back then.

I’d disagree with that.
It was way easier to get into the CBD from the outskirts in 1972 than it is today.
If you take the 1972 boundaries and count the numbers inside that in 2021, you’ll find the population hasn’t changed.
Numbers at yesterday’s demo weren’t too shabby, and were likely a lot more committed than the Moratorium crowds, for whom it was a Big Government sanctioned day out.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 14, 2021 2:00 pm

witness Italy revising the death toll down from 130,000 to 3,000

Has this been verified by reliable sources?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 14, 2021 2:04 pm

I suspect you guys may have her confused with Kay Kendall.

Crossie – I don’t know who Kay Kendall is, but I do know who Felicity Kendall is. Take it from me: she’s just yummy (at least on screen she is, dunno anything about her in real life). Zoë Wanamaker very similar, as I might add Natasha Stott Despoja, who has a similar sort of presence. Maybe it’s a man thing.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 2:04 pm

Has this been verified by reliable sources?

It’s been debunked as fake news.

P
P
November 14, 2021 2:05 pm

Kyle Rittenhouse owns scumbag prosecutor when asked why he tried to put out a fire started by rioters.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1458547036874104833
h/t Posobiec

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Zipster says:
November 14, 2021 at 11:57 am

Rittenhouse judge receives death threats ahead of verdict

Being as the jury decides the verdict, they’d be acutely conscious of the short-term forecast for their health & well being if the verdict adheres to the law, rather than to the mood of the goons in Antifa/BLM.

Kneel
Kneel
November 14, 2021 2:12 pm

“Which is why the judge is now investigating possibilities of a lesser charge on which they could convict him and everybody is saved except of course for Kyle and justice.”

Perhaps.
Or perhaps he is of the belief that the system still works, and doesn’t want to intervene unless he has to.

Take the gun charge – the law is pretty clear that as a 17 y.o., Rittenhouse is exempt from it (minor carrying a deadly weapon). He will instruct the jury, but didn’t throw it out.
He will let the jury decide on the homocide charges, despite pretty convincing evidence (from the prosecution, no less) of self-defense.
And he hasn’t ruled a mistrial despite “gross” prosecutorial misconduct, including attempted violation of the constitutional rights of both the defendant and one of his own witnesses.

I think he wants to give the jury a chance to rule “not guilty” on all charges, but if they don’t he might step in for a directed verdict – yes, he can do that after the jury has presented its verdict.
He could also rule a mistrial with prejudice – no further prosecutions on any count possible.
We’ll see next week, I guess.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 14, 2021 2:17 pm

Being as the jury decides the verdict, they’d be acutely conscious of the short-term forecast for their health & well being

Someone has been following the jury members around and videoing them.

Mater
November 14, 2021 2:17 pm

When assessing the crowds yesterday, remember the weather forecast.
Rain and miserable all day.
Imagine if the forecast was for fine weather.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 14, 2021 2:19 pm

48kMS IN 10 HOURS .. WOW! ..

What a great young bloke.
How Aussie was it to see the dog frolicking around his feet as he walked onto dry land.
Ironically, given his charity was RUOK, it was a black dog.

Baba
Baba
November 14, 2021 2:23 pm

Daisy is slightly less unwatchable than Nicholas Reese.

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 2:24 pm

It’s been debunked as fake news.

But of course. Funnily enough, they never went out of their way to fact check the coffins paraded on TV in English speaking countries – actually often of refugees from the 2013 Arab Spring/NATO bombing of the regimes, reused for a nightly “package”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2021 2:26 pm

Someone has been following the jury members around and videoing them.

Isn’t it illegal to attempt to intimidate a jury?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 2:28 pm

It hasn’t been debunked.
Here’s the first search reult:
https://www.boomlive.in/world/italy-covid-19-death-toll-less-than-4000-fact-check-fake-news-15449
It’s full of Weasel Words, such as:

Pier David Malloni, a spokesperson at the ISS, described the claim as “fake news.” “This is completely wrong. What we wrote in the report is that the 2.9 percent of the people deceased did not have some other comorbidity,” he told AFP on November 4, 2021.

… that’s the 3,783 out of 130,468.
Here’s some more spin [obvious lies]:

You’ve got things like acute respiratory failure caused by Covid-19, or pneumonia caused by Covid-19,” he explained. So while these conditions are technically comorbidities, “Covid-19 is the underlying cause of death, because it caused pneumonia, which caused the person to die.”

Runnybum
Runnybum
November 14, 2021 2:30 pm

If Rittenhouse is found not guilty (as he should be) I would advise hime & his family get the hell out of Dodge, the left are nuts & with the demonrats in charge that family will not be safe in the USA, but like us where is a safe country?

Figures
Figures
November 14, 2021 2:32 pm

I’m sure the next Federal Labor Government would like to have a precedent to take over Liberal State Governments.

Is this still a thing?

How could anybody actually still believe that leftists will play by the rules so long as we do?

The constitution is dead. The courts are irrelevant. We on the right either do what needs to be done to save civilization right now or we lose it.

Shut off all electricity for climate change zealots and forced vaccines daily for pro-vaxers.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 2:32 pm

Someone has been following the jury members around and videoing them.

You’re linking to a site calling itself, Team Tucker Carlson. Carlson appears to have no direct linkage to this website. Furthermore, juries would not be walking outside the courtroom. They have their own access from/ to the jury-room and “outside”. Is this jury even allowed outside as the odds are very much against it for a case of this importance.

It appears to be more fakenews from you. One other time is the Zerohedge bullshit that the government was taking people’s property as fines for disobeying health orders.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 2:34 pm

Psays:
November 14, 2021 at 2:05 pm
Kyle Rittenhouse owns scumbag prosecutor when asked why he tried to put out a fire started by rioters.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1458547036874104833
h/t Posobiec

I’ve watched it a number of times; get’s better every time. This prosecutor is a corrupt SOB and this kid has what it takes. Seriously, the number of times that process has been interfered with at a potentially criminal level by the prosecution is shithouse. I still think this case is a line in the sand.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 2:35 pm

Runnybum says:
November 14, 2021 at 2:30 pm

If Rittenhouse is found not guilty (as he should be) I would advise hime & his family get the hell out of Dodge, the left are nuts & with the demonrats in charge that family will not be safe in the USA, but like us where is a safe country?

Calm down Ted as you’re very manic. The kid took out two Antifa fuckers and turned another scumbag’s arm into pink mist. You think he’s a snowflake vulnerable kid? He’s not, you goose.

Roger
Roger
November 14, 2021 2:36 pm

NSW Environment Minister Matt Kean announced the decision to rename Ben Boyd National Park on the NSW far south coast on Sunday.

“It is time to acknowledge the real history of Ben Boyd and remove his name from the national park that continues to hold enormous cultural significance for Aboriginal people,” Mr Kean said.

Sydney is named in honour of the architect of white settlement in Australia, Lord Sydney.

Perhaps it should be renamed too, Mr. Kean?

cohenite
November 14, 2021 2:37 pm
Dragnet
Dragnet
November 14, 2021 2:41 pm

Roger @ 2.36 pm
– ffs don’t go giving them ideas !!

Runnybum
Runnybum
November 14, 2021 2:42 pm

JC, so Rittenhouse is supposed to stand guard over his family for the rest of his life?
Your moronic brain amazes me, you shouldn’t be that stupid with only one head.

C.L.
C.L.
November 14, 2021 2:43 pm

Rittenhouse is two things:

1) innocent of murder
2) an idiot

I don’t buy that he was a wannabe medic who was armed with a semi-automatic rifle only for protection. I think he went to the protest looking for a gun fight and the medic’s gear was mostly for show. Would you counsel your son to grab a rifle out of the safe and head down to a violent protest?

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 2:44 pm

It appears to be more fakenews from you. One other time is the Zerohedge bullshit that the government was taking people’s property as fines for disobeying health orders.

JC Read it on Instapundit. I’ll look for the link just this once.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 14, 2021 2:44 pm

Daisy Couzens is a fake. There. I’ve said it.

An over made-up (she could probably be quite serviceable, if not stunning without the two inches of render), over-enunciating nostalgia-themed overused mouthpiece.

Her themes – what she speaks of – is first-class, but for mine quite a bit of the impact is lost on delivery.

KD
I listen to the audio podcast. Her pompous, private school captain debating sctick curdles my chocolate milk. Her giggle though is a little cute. But that’s about it.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 2:45 pm

I’ve watched it a number of times; get’s better every time. This prosecutor is a corrupt SOB and this kid has what it takes.

He could be, but we don’t for certain if we’re judging him on the fact he brought the case to court. Elected DA’s would be prone to doing that and allowing courts to decide innocence or guilt for the reason that they’re elected officials and throw responsibility to someone else.

Example

I had a trader work for me who appeared to have a personal self destruct gene. His personal life has always been a mess, but he was a good trader.
He married a lunatic witch and the marriage broke up. She later accused him of raping her in a park in the Hamptons. The accusation was preposterous, but the DA in Long Island issued and arrest warrant and had him incarcerated for weeks. He was living in CT at the time. His defense showed the DA video evidence he has gassed up the car in a CT gas station proving the crime was impossible but he still went to court. The reason is that he obviously didn’t want to be found going easy on female related crimes. The dude got off easily.

My point is the fucker may have had to take it to court as the case is too important.

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 2:46 pm

The rapist, pedophile and wife beater were part of a mob that wanted to burn down a petrol station not far from his house.

I grew up maybe 150 m from a servo.

If they blow up (which happens often when they burn down), they set off a massive fireball.

The cops weren’t doing their job. I don’t care if Rittenhouse is unlikeable and retarded.

C.L.
C.L.
November 14, 2021 2:46 pm

And that judge in the Rittenhouse trial is far too histrionic for the bench.

Anyway, the Wisconsin National Guard has been deployed to Kenosha – which means the Governor has decided the verdict is going to be ‘not guilty.’

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 14, 2021 2:48 pm

I suspect you guys may have her confused with Kay Kendall.

No confusion at all
.

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 2:48 pm

Her pompous, private school captain debating sctick

A troll most of the day yesterday criticised DL as a Senator for not trying this on.

Don’t forget, the left and establishment (BIRM) are afraid of a real contest, even of they have the numbers.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 2:49 pm

JC, so Rittenhouse is supposed to stand guard over his family for the rest of his life?

STFU, no one will remember this is 6 months at the outside over there.

—————-

Bespoke, Newscastle’s chief scientist linked to some shit site called Team Tucker Carlson. FFS..

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JCsays:
November 14, 2021 at 2:32 pm

Someone has been following the jury members around and videoing them.

.. juries would not be walking outside the courtroom. They have their own access from/ to the jury-room and “outside”. Is this jury even allowed outside as the odds are very much against it for a case of this importance.

It appears to be more fakenews from you. One other time is the Zerohedge bullshit that the government was taking people’s property as fines for disobeying health orders.

The jury were videoed, by a random member of the public, outside the court, as they were waiting at a bus stop.

Do try to keep up with the facts.

Rittenhouse judge says person caught filming jurors, orders deletion along with ‘new procedures’

The Wisconsin judge overseeing the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse announced Tuesday that deputies had caught someone recording video of the jurors earlier in the day and would be taking new steps to ensure the incident did not happen again, in addition to ordering the person to delete the images.

The jury entered the Kenosha County courtroom on Tuesday morning and was greeted by Judge Bruce Schroeder, who referenced “the incident at the bus pick-up this morning.” Before the panel of jurors arrived, Schroeder had revealed that someone was spotted filming the group.

Dot
Dot
November 14, 2021 2:50 pm

Seems I need to make a “Team Fair Pay & Global Warming Institute” channel!

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 2:52 pm

I don’t buy that he was a wannabe medic who was armed with a semi-automatic rifle only for protection. I think he went to the protest looking for a gun fight and the medic’s gear was mostly for show.

What a dumb conclusion.

JC Couldn’t find the link.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 2:53 pm

My point is the fucker may have had to take it to court as the case is too important.

This is the 2nd amendment case. The kid explained why he was there: to protect his community, which it was since his father lived there and friends of the father had businesses under threat; and the authorities had abdicated their responsibility. There was no gun crime so the stand alone issue is whether US citizens can protect themselves and their communities. The left don’t want this. This is their core issue. A populace, armed and willing to protect itself is their worst nightmare. Which is why this is the line in the sand.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 2:53 pm

Okay, driller, so you did the extra leg work and posted a far more credible website than Team Tuck Carlson. Why? Because you obviously had zero credibility in Team Tucker Carlson too. But not Newcastle’s chief scientist. He went with it.

Still, it sounds suspicious the jury was out in the open like that.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JCsays:
November 14, 2021 at 2:53 pm

Okay, driller, so you did the extra leg work and posted a far more credible website than Team Tuck Carlson. Why? Because you obviously had zero credibility in Team Tucker Carlson too. But not Newcastle’s chief scientist. He went with it.

Still, it sounds suspicious the jury was out in the open like that.

I did it because you were wrong.
Not only wrong, you doubled down to stupid .

cohenite
November 14, 2021 2:57 pm

This Daisy vitriol is motivated by envy. One person in a million can carry off a flower behind the ear. Daisy can. No one here can and don’t say you can unless you post the evidence.

C.L.
C.L.
November 14, 2021 2:57 pm

The thing that pisses me off about the American right is its obsession with guns.
The left has taken over the FBI, the Justice Department, the military, the media and every university in the country but the main thing for Cletus is that he still has 17 guns and a flamethrower.

What a dumb conclusion.

No, it’s the obvious conclusion. Rittenhouse wanted to be a gun hero – that’s why he was there. If he wanted to medically attend to wounded people, he could have done so and would have been left alone.

2dogs
November 14, 2021 2:59 pm

My point is the fucker may have had to take it to court as the case is too important.

Sounds right. He does seem to be going for a mistrial, so maybe that is a way to avoiding taking the loss himself, and maybe he won’t have to take the case the next time around.

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 2:59 pm

If he wanted to medically attend to wounded people, he could have done so and would have been left alone.

LOL!!

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 2:59 pm

Cronkite

Let’s get a little real. The little fuckhead was 17 years old. As a parent, would you let the little fucker go out at night with an AR-15 strapped over his shoulder, heading towards a violent demonstration? Personally, I’d brain the little prick or at the very least I’d tell him that if he left the house it would be the last time he’d set foot inside the family home again. Most certainly, I would not let him take the gun. Get fucking real. The little fuck is innocent, but he’s still a little fuckhaad.

rosie
rosie
November 14, 2021 3:00 pm

Debunked.
Exactly JC
The fact that Ed Case is trolling the ‘Italian covid deaths overstated by 97%’ tosh is proof positive that the il tempo newspaper claim (which is all it was) is fake news.
They are trying to claim anyone with any pre existing condition no matter how benign didn’t die as the direct result of a covid infection.
About as credible as the giraffe story.

C.L.
C.L.
November 14, 2021 3:00 pm

I’ve only seen Daisy on Bolt a few times. She is genuinely bright and more articulate than most of the Sky anchors. Having said that, I don’t really get the Betty Boop act.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

No, it’s the obvious conclusion. Rittenhouse wanted to be a gun hero – that’s why he was there. If he wanted to medically attend to wounded people, he could have done so and would have been left alone.

I don’t disagree with you, however;
at the time, in much of the USA, the only way to guarantee to not be maimed, murdered, have your house/business burnt down, or your suburban street invaded by the mob, was to carry a gun.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:02 pm

I did it because you were wrong.
Not only wrong, you doubled down to stupid .

Stop lying. You went to Foxnews, which is a credible site for the obvious reason you also don’t trust. Team FUCKING Tucker Carlson.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:03 pm

I don’t disagree with you, however;
at the time, in much of the USA, the only way to guarantee to not be maimed, murdered, have your house/business burnt down, or your suburban street invaded by the mob, was to carry a gun.

Oh, how about staying away from the riot prone area? You don’t need a gun for that.

Cassie of Sydney
November 14, 2021 3:06 pm

“1) innocent of murder
2) an idiot”

I’m never one to dispute anything your write C.L but I don’t think Kyle Rittenhouse is an idiot, I think “naive” is the better word to describe his actions. One more thing, Kyle is ….

3) a patriot

Last year, during the “summer of love”….when the Demonrats deliberately fomented and orchestrated violence in many US cities to undo Trump, when they used their 2021 paramilitary versions of the Klan…..aka BLM and Antifa…..young men like Kyle looked askance at the news reports coming in, they were bewildered with the MSM spinning the truth about what was going on despite the obvious…..which was that cities were burning, small businesses were up in flames and Kenosha, a town near where Kyle lived, was aflame…so he and other young men naively went to assist. It was foolish. But I understand why he went. I pray to God that Kyle Rittenhouse is found innocent.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JCsays:
November 14, 2021 at 3:02 pm

I did it because you were wrong.
Not only wrong, you doubled down to stupid .

Stop lying. You went to Foxnews, which is a credible site for the obvious reason you also don’t trust. Team FUCKING Tucker Carlson.

Give it up loser.
I went to the first link that came up.
The event is well-known, has been discussed here on the Cat numerous times in the past few days.

You were wrong, not only wrong you doubled down with a stupid conclusion.

Deal with it.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 3:06 pm

I don’t really get the Betty Boop act.

FMD, how many times do I have to say this: it’s not an act: Daisy is Betty Boop, Scarlett O’Hara, Boudicca and Minnie Mouse wrapped in the one package.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 14, 2021 3:08 pm

I don’t buy that he was a wannabe medic who was armed with a semi-automatic rifle only for protection. I think he went to the protest looking for a gun fight and the medic’s gear was mostly for show. Would you counsel your son to grab a rifle out of the safe and head down to a violent protest?

Garbage. It’s clear that he’s an idealistic teenager with, fortunately, enough sense to go armed into a riot.

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 3:08 pm

The thing that pisses me off about the American right is its obsession with guns.

The one’s that you and others were so disappointed they didn’t take up arm’s after trump’s loss?

I knew as soon as things got messy all the bravado would shrink.

Please stop using CNN as your insight into Gun rights. It’s one dimensional.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:09 pm

I went to the first link that came up.

You didn’t need to. The chief’s scientist’s stupid site was actually the first site that came up. He linked to Team Tucker Carlson.

Stop wrecking the discussion flow with stupid shit.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 14, 2021 3:09 pm

wot bogey said

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:10 pm

Garbage. It’s clear that he’s an idealistic teenager with, fortunately, enough sense to go armed into a riot.

You’d let a kid go armed to a riot? More importantly, have you EVER been in a violent riot?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 14, 2021 3:11 pm

If Minnie Mouse runs against Scummo she will win!

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:12 pm

If Minnie Mouse runs against Scummo she will win!

What seat is she running in?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 14, 2021 3:12 pm

A Catalaxxy store would be a good idea.

It could sell “I love Daisy” buttons, for a start.

And “Let’s go Brandon” stuff.

Also M-16s.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 3:12 pm

Headline over a small article on Rittenhouse’s evidence in the Courier Mail:
Killer: …
The other day the Prosecutor asked a question that the Defense objected to, discussion was heard in the absence of the Jury.
Anyway, the gist of the Objection was that if Rittenhouse was forced to answer, the Defense would counter that Rosenbaum had been released from a Mental Hospital that day and had gone straight to the demonstration/riot.
He didn’t want to pursue that line and the Judge agreed.
My conclusion is that it’s unlikely that 3 white ex cons would be at a BLM riot unless they were told by their Probation/Parole Officers to show up.
Big can of worms under the surface to be explored at Appeal if Kyle gets railroaded, so I’m expecting a Not Guilty verdict.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:13 pm

Ender

And flame throwers too.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Last year, during the “summer of love”….when the Demonrats deliberately fomented and orchestrated violence in many US cities to undo Trump, when they used their 2021 paramilitary versions of the Klan…..aka BLM and Antifa…..young men like Kyle looked askance at the news reports coming in, they were bewildered with the MSM spinning the truth about what was going on despite the obvious…..which was that cities were burning, small businesses were up in flames and Kenosha, a town near where Kyle lived, was aflame…so he and other young men naively went to assist. It was foolish. But I understand why he went. I pray to God that Kyle Rittenhouse is found innocent.

Someone posted here a couple of days ago comments by J.D. Vance (apparently a candidate for US Senate in Ohio):

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Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 14, 2021 3:13 pm

Oh, how about staying away from the riot prone area? You don’t need a gun for that.

How far away was Rittenhouse from his father’s house or from the businesses which his father’s friends owned when the incident occurred?
I don’t know, but it seems to me that that’s pretty important to the suggestion that “staying away” was a viable option.
If he was, say, 5o metres away from his father’s home I’d say there’s reasonable grounds for being there, i.e. not wanting the mob to get within Molotov cocktail throwing distance of the family home.
So, JC, where was Rittenhouse relative to those places, and what would be a reasonable distance for him to be?

cohenite
November 14, 2021 3:13 pm

Oh, how about staying away from the riot prone area? You don’t need a gun for that.

Score out of 10 for stupidity: 10. Since when has minding your own business stopped the left mob from fucking you right up.

Rittenhouse is a gun hero, whatever the fuck that is. This is what I’ve been saying, the rules don’t exist, the left are doing what they want. For over a year the US was in perpetual riot by the left. No one had made a stand before Rittenhouse. $billions in damage, dozens dead for pure political power. The GOP establishment was MIA, the citizenry was cowered. If Rittenhouse had not stood up there was no coming back.

This not a day out at the shorting office head prefect. This is shit hitting the fan, except this time the shit was the left not the others.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Whoops: Here’s J.D. Vance:

I am not a criminal lawyer. I am sure people are right that it’s risky for him to testify. But our leaders abandoned this kid’s community to lawless thug rioters, and he did something about it, and now a lawless thug prosecutor is trying to destroy his life.

We leave our boys without fathers. We let the wolves set fire to their communities. And when human nature tells them to go and defend what no one else is defending, we bring the full weight of the state and the global monopolists against them.

C.L.
C.L.
November 14, 2021 3:14 pm

What followed George Floyd’s death by overdose and imbecility was a curated Democrat/media event designed to sink Trump in an orgy of violence, rubble and Russia hoaxing. In the contemporary history of the Western world, no enormity so egregious and disgusting has been visited upon a democracy as that perpetrated by the US left last year. Thousands died in a law enforcement vacuum. I seriously doubt America can ever recover from it.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:15 pm

Cronkite

He was 17.

C.L.
C.L.
November 14, 2021 3:16 pm

I’m never one to dispute anything your write C.L

Dispute away, Cassie! Nothing could change my sky-high opinion of you.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:17 pm

My sentiments exactly, CL. It was all orchestrated to destroy Trump.

I’m more optimistic though.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JCsays:
November 14, 2021 at 3:09 pm

Stop wrecking the discussion flow with stupid shit.

I posted a link to an attempted jury tampering, something you said did not, & likely could not happen.
Yet it did.

You call this correction of your cluelessness & lack of street smarts… “stupid shit”?

Grow up.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 14, 2021 3:19 pm

JCsays:
November 14, 2021 at 3:15 pm
Cronkite

He was 17.

You can join the army at 18, and go to places like Iraq or Afghanistan to “defend” your country.
Being 17 and defending the family home doesn’t seem like too big a stretch.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 3:20 pm

They are trying to claim anyone with any pre existing condition no matter how benign didn’t die as the direct result of a covid infection.

Rosie.
look up the meaning of “Comorbirites”
It doesn’t include “benign”, whatever that is.
It means:
Things that are going to kill you.
97.1% of the alleged Covid dead in Italy had Comorbidities.
The other 2.9% very likely died of either Influenza or Pneumonia.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 3:21 pm
JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:21 pm

Neilson

He was 17 not 18. Don’t annoy me with stupid shit like Driller. You’re better than that.

Cassie of Sydney
November 14, 2021 3:21 pm

“What followed George Floyd’s death by overdose and imbecility was a curated Democrat/media event designed to sink Trump in an orgy of violence, rubble and Russia hoaxing. In the contemporary history of the Western world, no enormity so egregious and disgusting has been visited upon a democracy as that perpetrated by the US left last year. Thousands died in a law enforcement vacuum. I seriously doubt America can ever recover from it.”

C.L. has said it best.

Cassie of Sydney
November 14, 2021 3:22 pm

“Nothing could change my sky-high opinion of you.”

Thank you C.L.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 14, 2021 3:23 pm

Picking up on a comment from Kneel at 1234 on the Two Weeks thread, the first target for the counter revolution must be the media.

Ignore all current “official” media, government spokes slime, TV, radio, newspapers, and their websites. They are the prime enemy. It has been the take over of public communication that has caused the present problem.

How to respond? Start your own private Samzidat. Write short think pieces, and send them to trusted friends. Invite them to send them on. Keep it honest (as differentiation from the current lot), and short. Choose a subject you understand, and focus on that, do not allow yourself to go outside your comfort zone, leave other subjects to those who understand them.

Goanna
Goanna
November 14, 2021 3:23 pm

Salvatore.

I don’t disagree with you, however;
at the time, in much of the USA, the only way to guarantee to not be maimed, murdered, have your house/business burnt down, or your suburban street invaded by the mob, was to carry a gun.

The kid was a target on the ground.

The Rooftop Koreans of another time had a different approach to riotous behaviour.

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 3:25 pm

Rittenhouse is a gun hero

No he is not. Just another teen putting himself on the line becouse the aduilts have screwed up.

An tragedy not to be celebrated.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Goanna:

The kid was a target on the ground.

What made him a target?
Helping injured would seem to sacred.

Or was he helping the wrong injured?
Or was it his attempts to extinguish fires?

Those fellers really meant to kill him, they went for him properly, despite him being armed.
What set them off?

C.L.
C.L.
November 14, 2021 3:26 pm

Rittenhouse is a gun hero, whatever the fuck that is. This is what I’ve been saying, the rules don’t exist, the left are doing what they want. For over a year the US was in perpetual riot by the left. No one had made a stand before Rittenhouse. $billions in damage, dozens dead for pure political power. The GOP establishment was MIA, the citizenry was cowered. If Rittenhouse had not stood up there was no coming back.

Assuming this is true, is it not telling that the 2nd Amendment demographic produced only one boy with a rifle during the whole year? I’ve been reading American newspapers and sites for years; countless are the occasions when a gun-loving conservative has boasted that if America ever went feral, ‘liberals’ would be no match for the armed right. Well, it did go feral and their guns didn’t make any difference.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

17 was old enough to be killed in action in the Falklands. As four were.
In the early stages of that conflict, it was the Royal Navy machine-gunners who were getting to engage the enemy.
Average age of those gun crews: Seventeen.

sfw
sfw
November 14, 2021 3:29 pm

Who cares about Rittenhouse? Our country is in tatters, the economy is rooted, our PM and nearly all the politicians are utterly corrupt or useless or both. Stalin and Hitler could only dream of the powers that our idiots have. Yet you lot are getting angry at each other over some kids court case that has nothing to do with us.
It’s like watching Homer Simpson worried about a squirrel while the power plant is going critical.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 3:29 pm

One of the big worries for Rittenhouse is the provocation argument which the prosecution has been trying to infiltrate into the proceedings. That is, if the prosecution can say Rittenhouse provoked the attacks by the slimebags he shot he cannot claim self defence. To do that they would have to prove he was brandishing his rifle in a threatening manner. They used one still from the video which ostensibly shows Rittenhouse pointing his rifle at people. But when the full video is shown it shows he was merely turning around with the gun following him.

If the kid gets off he has to start civil litigation against every media shit who defamed him as a white supremacist; and biden.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 3:30 pm

It’s like watching Homer Simpson worried about a squirrel while the power plant is going critical.

Rittenhouse is the power plant.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

If the kid gets off he has to start civil litigation against every media shit who defamed him as a white supremacist; and biden.

Sweet!
CNN, NBC, NYT, etc, owned by a partnership of Kyle Rittenhouse & Nick Sandmann.

Runnybum
Runnybum
November 14, 2021 3:32 pm

I think JC is reminiscing about when he had a spud gun when he was a child.

cohenite
November 14, 2021 3:33 pm

Assuming this is true, is it not telling that the 2nd Amendment demographic produced only one boy with a rifle during the whole year?

There were a lot of false starts, the black cop getting shot, GOP pollies getting beat up etc but it had to start some-where. The point is the left are implacable. It can’t end with Rittenhouse. That’s the equally important point.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:33 pm

Does anyone here think it’s perfectly normal for a 17 year old kid to be out in crazed streets with a loaded AR15 strapped over his shoulder… IN A Suburban setting?

Yes or no?

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 3:34 pm

occasions when a gun-loving conservative has boasted that if America ever went feral, ‘liberals’ would be no match for the armed right.

Not in conservative neighbourhoods. What are you getting at C.L? It looks like damming them whatever they do.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Assuming this is true, is it not telling that the 2nd Amendment demographic produced only one boy with a rifle during the whole year?

He seems to be the most publicised case of an armed loner heading out into a rioting crowd.

There are numerous incidents (& non-incidents) where the presence of armed citizens meant BLM/Antifa mysteriously found it “not necessary” to loot/burn/rampage a particular shop or street.

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
November 14, 2021 3:36 pm

The problem is that we have a biased MSM that is very selective about which barking mad woman’s story they’ll push….because it all boils down to the political side.

This would be another benefit of burning the ABC to a rubble. Remove aspirational leftist slimes career opportunities, no matter who they are currently employed by.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:37 pm

17 was old enough to be killed in action in the Falklands. As four were.
In the early stages of that conflict, it was the Royal Navy machine-gunners who were getting to engage the enemy.
Average age of those gun crews: Seventeen.

Different era, Drills. Different era.

Go clean the bar.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 3:37 pm

Rittenhouse is the Squirrel.
NFL and College Football are kicking off again in America, those muh 2nd Amendment couch potatoes have already forgotten Kenosha

Arky
November 14, 2021 3:37 pm

Assuming this is true, is it not telling that the 2nd Amendment demographic produced only one boy with a rifle during the whole year? I’ve been reading American newspapers and sites for years; countless are the occasions when a gun-loving conservative has boasted that if America ever went feral, ‘liberals’ would be no match for the armed right. Well, it did go feral and their guns didn’t make any difference.

..
No true.
Rittenhouse was part of an organised, armed group protecting property.
That they managed to isolate and attack the youngest, least experienced member and turn it into an incident is down to propaganda and framing.
That you will not find photos of him as a member of the group, but characterised as a lone actor is part of the schtick.
Many groups did in fact deploy to protect lives and property in the face of those riots.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:38 pm

Bespoke

CL is getting at what I’ve been saying. The left won. They rampaged the country at will and the cheated the election.

They won.

2dogs
November 14, 2021 3:39 pm

Critics of Rittenhouse are advised to revise the Peelian Principles, particularly #7.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 14, 2021 3:42 pm

You’d let a kid go armed to a riot?

I sure wouldn’t let him go unarmed. If he felt it his duty to help, I wouldn’t stop him. But I’d make sure he wasn’t defenceless.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:44 pm

It’s actually chilling when you think about how brazen the left has become. All through 2020 American cities were wrecked . They then cheated the elections and we have Jan 6 protestors in jail without trial and domestic terrorists.

Runnybum
Runnybum
November 14, 2021 3:44 pm

Question for you JC, were you at the march in Danistan yesterday or were you hiding under the bed with biggles?
Yes or no.

JC
JC
November 14, 2021 3:45 pm

Yea, but you wouldn’t go Doc, right?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 14, 2021 3:45 pm

Imagine the Scene:
Judge: Um, Doc, so you released Rosenbaum that day.
On what grounds, any chance it was on the proviso that he head straight to the riot?
Doc: What, er …no, hey look at that squirrel.

bespoke
bespoke
November 14, 2021 3:47 pm

JCsays:
November 14, 2021 at 3:38 pm

If you believe that then go curl up in a corner.

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