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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese gets CAUGHT LYING in HD about not being invited to speak at protest
There cannot be too many lower forms of coward than someone who will use the deceased to score political points.…
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so she escaped on a pony … or real unicorn?
Does the old turd really believe this stuff or is he handed talking points by NWO controllers.
A “poorly documented” fact is still a fact.
You would think a Church leader might realise this.
Cranky Frankie is a very nasty piece of work.
Never mind what, Baba?
If you don’t see the difference between Alfred N’s and yours or zipster’s comment then you’re fucking retarded should post comments.
ROME — Pope Francis said Monday that people who opt not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus are acting on “baseless information or poorly documented facts.”
Galileo was unavailable for comment.
Or common prudence. “Be not the first by whom the new is tried, nor yet the last to cast the old aside.”
Funny that the old thief did poo poo pants while meeting Frankie. Actually it’s disgusting and illustrates the decline, decay and decadence of the ruling classes.
Twostix:
Imagine something like that at Stalingrad. Fly it slowly around enemy positions, picking off the occasional sentry or whatever.
Its main effect would be psychological.
Like harasssing fire from enemy artillery at night so troops lose sleep time. Or the famed Night Witches of the Red air force – see a campfire at night, turn the engine off and glide over the fire – throwing out bombs or mortar rounds.
It’d be a morale destroying weapon mainly due to its furtive nature.
Until a counter was found.
Interesting watching the new Qld CHO. He was apparently heavily involved in the Ruby Princess aftermath and therefore has firsthand knowledge of the “petri dish” scenario and appears to be trying to steer a middle road. He has been pushing for a few weeks now that everyone get out and live their normal lives as everyone needs to get the omicron for it to follow the normal path of a virus for herd immunity.
However he is being subtlety undermined every chance that the government can get. He is also the only virologist in charge of any state health department and as a result the chook is finding it harder to get him to agree to her most outrageous attempts at control.
Eyrie’s comment about him using reverse psychology re the covid parties could well be spot on. We have heard of young people getting together and not caring if they get it or not, particularly as a number of them have tested positive! So far he has prevented lockdowns and not closed down businesses, the seven day rule has done that, which was one thing he didn’t have much control over by the looks of it. He has a difficult role to play. Fingers crossed he can hold the line.
Digger:
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Did anyone notice the movable sight screen has disappeared from the Melbourne Cricket Ground?
I understand Dan uses it to shift the political goal posts…
He could also have authorised the use of anti-virals, but didn’t.
People have died from Covid-19 because anti-viral treatments weren’t available, he and his government wanted everyone to wait for the vaxxs, all other treatments were denied. If the government authorised anti-viral treatments, there would have been no need for the vaxxs, hence no vaxxine passport system.
They are still denying the use of anti-virals and people are still needlessly dying.
You want me to vote for these people?
Dunno doc
Kind of sounds like a high falutent
Who announced the lockdowns? Barre, anyone?
My God… perhaps you can explain when NO-ONE on the face of this earth knew what the hell was happening and a global pandemic had just been called, what in hell you would have done… spruiking with todays information, 20 months after the event is so worldly…
Kind of sounds like a highfalutin way of describing mediocrity.
If you vote SFL you are rewarding failure. Just as bad as voting for the Liars. If you can’t vote for an Independent, vote for no one. Write on your ballot why you can’t vote for anyone so the AEC don’t fine you. So far has worked for me.
Mater
#3380938, posted on March 28, 2020 at 3:09 pm
Ok. So Bob thought my ‘Key Point Defence’ option this morning (06:40) was insane.
Let me explain it in a little more detail
Action:
Protect all vulnerable individuals from exposure using best possible means (more or less what we are currently doing through isolation). Others (the young and healthy) get back to work in order to provide essential services and get the economy moving as best as possible.
Why:
The risk of overwhelming the ICU beds seems to emanate from the vulnerable (elderly and compromised). If they are properly protected through isolation, their requirement for ICU beds should be minimal.
Those young and healthy individuals who fall ill and require an ICU bed (a much smaller percentage of a smaller exposed population base) should be able to be catered for. As you can see, the virus itself allows us to ‘flatten the curve’ naturally because of its lessened impact on younger people.
Meanwhile, the ‘workers’ get the virus, get through the virus and build up an immunity, all whilst keeping the country ticking. Once we get through this period (hopefully not too long) and all the ICU beds are free again, start lifting the restrictions on the more vulnerable (staged, if required). Hopefully the virus is under control by this stage, but if not, the potential numbers requiring the ICU beds is much smaller and we can better regulate it through release rates.
The benefit here is that we have now have a healthy, immune workforce which can freely cater to the needs of those falling sick, we also keep the country limping along and it counters the problem of the reinfection spike that is likely to occur once a totally locked down country, emerges.
I don’t see anything cruel or insane about this plan. It’s just using the one characteristic of the virus that we are reasonably sure of, against it. We flatten the curve by smart, controlled exposure, in the order we want. Basically, we fight the battle at a time and place of our choosing to make best use of what resources we have (there is another military analogy, Bob).
Discuss? Am I cruel or insane? I must know.
Whats the point of all this testing BS? I you feel sick, stay home until you dont. How fucking hard is it?
Spot on Mater.
Pretty much the National Pandemic plan prior to the COVID insanity where Western Govts thought it best to jettison such plans and replace them with the CCP’s authoritative lockdowns.
Jesus, Mater, just as well governments around the world didn’t follow your advice. Millions would have died.
Nice quote DrBeauGan.
Did the bureaucrats you dealt with today use the explanation “human error” I wonder?
(just like Djokavic)
Alexander Pope. Slightly improved.
Mater
Sweden tried the strategy of natural immunity through limited controls and they jettisoned the whole thing. Also, their death toll among the old was terrible.
No one has died of Covid, plenty have died with Covid.
There’s a huge difference.
So we destroy the young & the economy to protect the old.
Makes sense.
Anyone with a decent familiarity with the use of therapeutic products and/or chemicals to control organisms, knows the following: that if you use just one product, continuously, even when it is only partially effectively, you have created the perfect conditions for resistance to emerge rapidly and strongly.
We have known this for decades WRT antibiotics, pesticides and biocontrols. The mRNA could have had an extended lifespan helping to protect the vulnerable, while the majority used alternative, proven treatments – trials now number in the hundreds, and studies in the thousands. Instead, the over-use of the vaccines and the effective denial of treatment in most Western populations has made the early development of Delta and Omicron inevitable.
……. and that is the opinion of yet another World Renowned Virologist.
Me? I’ve just been dealing with the population resistance for forty years.
If people are claiming OUR lockdown (of everyone) saved us, we could have easily protected the vulnerable.
Can’t have it both ways.
Because it wasn’t done well somewhere, doesn’t mean it couldn’t be done.
How many died in nursing homes in the second half of 2020 in Victoria, under our ‘complete’ lockdowns. More importantly, how many of the young and healthy died in Sweden?
Mater.
I think there would have been lots of targeted strategies between the polar opposites of rolling lockdowns or “let it rip”.
Strategies which would have protected the vulnerable and cost 1/10 of the cash which has been pissed away over this.
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All it took was a monster fuck up on Tucker for Cruz to pull his finger out.
I’m pleased to report that I’ve had no dealings with bureaucrats this year, hzhousewife. I avoid them as I avoid politicians. I might catch something nasty off one of the creeps.
I don’t get what you’re trying to say. Explain.
We didn’t have rapid testing at the time and it was impossible to keep covid away from nursing homes, especially with limited testing.
Sweden also had a huge problem in nursing homes. I’m not sure about the breakdown by age however the point is this, Sweden scuppered their version of going their own way. Why did they do this if their strategy was working?
There’s an infinite number of options, but Digger asked what I would’ve done without 20 months of hindsight, and I gave him a verifiable answer.
In hindsight, only very minor details would I change. I had an advantage, though, I’m not prone to panic and hysteria.
Hundreds.
And some from malnutrition or dehydration because Slugger Sutton thought it was “safer” for staff to be ripped out of aged care.
I’ve said before that I was personally against all the lockdowns other than the first one. We did not have enough information on the illness to reach any conclusion.
I really am beginning to think the well used argument you’re throwing at me is identical to those peddling euthanasia. I’m not buying it -at least not in the way say Greto Twostix does here.
It’s obscene’: Farmers dump produce as supply chain crisis bites
There’s nothing the Australian Government’s can’t fuck up. This has been brewing for weeks, what have the Mongs done?!
Actually, no.
What the Swedes actually followed were the recommendations current in Oct2019, resulting from over half a century on research into infectious viral diseases. Their population fatality rate is roughly average for Europe, and was surpassed by countries that locked down hard.
Their admitted failure was to specifically protect groups with known vulnerabilities…. the same failure committed in other States that locked down the general population while placing infected – and infectious – people in nursing homes full of old people, to “free up hospital beds”.
Those who pay attention, also note that the Swedes had experienced two years of very “soft” influenza seasons. That meant that the first Covid wave hit their population at a time when it had an abnormally high level of people in the end-of-life stage who would normally be taken of by whatever RTI came first.
Failure to put proper value on these criteria renders your critique valueless.
The question is not whether one country did better or worse than its immediate neighbour – the cherry-picking fallacy. The real question is whether there is a significant correlation between lockdowns and reduced all-cause mortality.
There isn’t.
Yes… All-Cause Mortality IS the valid criteria. Otherwise we could reduce Covid mortality by shooting everyone over 70 and claim success. It also neatly avoids stupid arguments over whether someone dying with stage-four brain cancer, a traffic accident, or ( like George Floyd, ) with enough illegal drugs in his system to kill a horse , being counted as a “Covid death”.
Sweden admitted it could have done things better with the elderly at the start.
We didn’t have rapid testing at the time and it was impossible to keep covid away from nursing homes, especially with limited testing.
The bigger issue were the staff who after emptying bed pans who then went off to do one or two other jobs.
Being an über driver at night & working in aged car during the day is an awesome vector for COVID.
Actually yes. Sweden changed direction because their death and hospital stays were getting out of hand.
PeterW, if you’re trying to peddle to argument that Sweden changed strategies and went into hard lockdown because the other strategy was a startling success, then you’re not going to get anywhere. Ironically, that’s actually what you’re implying.
Sweden tried the strategy of natural immunity through limited controls and they jettisoned the whole thing. Also, their death toll among the old was terrible.
My understanding is that it was particularly bad because their aged care facilities tend to be very large. Letting it rip is reasonable, but you need to protect the elderly AND respect their rights.
From what I have seen, many elderly considered the locked down and isolated option to be unacceptable, particularly the amount of time we did it for.
Many would have accepted death by COVID as a reasonable trade for a hug from a grandchild. In many cases they died of COVID regardless, alone and isolated.
LOL the RATs are even more dodgy than the PCR test. It’s a complete farce.
Well, if locking up ALL of the population supposedly worked, locking up 15% should have been easier and worked better, given more concentration of resources.
So if it was “impossible”, why did we do it? Why did we lock up those that would be least effected?
They didn’t “scupper” it, they adjusted it. We had a problem in their nursing homes, we had a problem in our nursing homes. Our young were locked up, and our social fabric torn to pieces. There’s were entrusted with person responsibility and they got on with life.
They took their hit early. How are we going?
You have to take your COVID medicine at some stage.
The worst place on the planet for multiple waves is the US which can be put down to their chronic obesity.
Every other country, region on the planet, once there has been a wave that rips through, subsequent waves have less of an impact on excess death rates.
We’ll know when the next strain comes at some stage during 2022.
No one really knows until we see it and anything else is guessing to some degree.
That’s nice.
But here’s the thing, if their no lockdown, natural immunity strategy was a startling success then why not just fix their nursing home problem and push on with the natural immunity strategy?
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The truth is.. no one knows what the fuck was the right or wrong way to go.
My 98 year old grandmother said she doesnt want the young to sacrifice for her, she’s had a great life.
Face it, the west has failed. Fucked up. We will never get out of the shadow of this BS.
Good grief.
Political soundbites aside, the Swedes have never adopted full lockdowns, and most of their younger children stayed in schools.
Yes, they – and we – could have isolated our aged-care facilities. The theory of asymptomatic spread being undetectable and unstoppable has proven false. Two major studies, including one in China analysing 10,000,000 cases. Asymptomatic spread was a THEORY, not a fact, and we should not still be digging it out to justify incompetent management.
It’s on the same level as the theories predicting universal and equal vulnerability across the population – which was the other reason why the aged were not given focussed protection. It was just assumed that EVERYONE would get Covid and Everyone was at risk of dying…… an assumption proven false by the Princess cruise ships and the crew of one the the USNavy’s fleet aircraft carriers.
There was a lot that we knew by the end of April 2020, and is still being ignored.
Jesus, Mater, just as well governments around the world didn’t follow your advice. Millions would have died.
The 2017 flu had a higher mortality rate than COVID does. What did we do for the 2017 flu season? If I remember correctly, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Yes, millions of elderly would have died, because that’s what fucking happens when you are old, you either die from something, or die because something stopped working.
It doesn’t have to be a “startling success” to disprove the necessity for lockdowns. Being no worse than average at a far lower cost, both socially and economically is all that it takes.
The answer to your latter question is “politics” and “too many people like you, with strong opinions but very little understanding of reality”.
PeterW, great stuff.
Hopefully that will be after the 4 jab has been rolled out.
If you’re not weighing up trade offs, lockdowns actually do work. If you force the population to be less immobile and remain in their homes, pandemics tend to ease off.
Dunno, after the first lockdown, there shouldn’t have been anymore.
They “adjusted it” by locking down.
Okay, but you’re preaching to someone who agrees with that.
Dunno as I haven’t looked.
They took their hit early. How are we going?
After two years of flailing around on the floor screaming “we’re all going to die!”, we’re taking the hit now…
I’m all for it.
For boomers.
Every Jayco “Golden Years” caravan should be fitted with an exit pod.
As soon as they finish the Big Lap they eat the sedatives provided (crushed in their last Milo if they wish) then into the pod to be suffocated by three months accumulated gases from the effluent tank.
You’ve had your fun.
Nothing more to see.
Off you go.
According to the International Labour Organization (ILO), more than 2.3 million workers die every year.
HOLY SHIT – We have to ban working!!!!!
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/workplace-death-health-safety-ilo-fluor/
Hopefully that will be after the 4 jab has been rolled out.
When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.
The current vaccination strategy is dangerous and stupid. Vaccination should be reserved for the elderly or those with comorbities. Mass vaccination with leaky vaccines is rolling the mutation dice at a prodigious rate.
We’ve fucking done this before with antibiotics. How about we stop and learn the lesson?
Some of us need to remember that poverty kills.
The economy is not irrelevant.
The economy pays for everything that keeps people fed, clothed, sheltered and provided with health care, essential services and education. One of Britains foremost academics on the subject of risk management, provided formal advice to the British Parliament that poverty alone would result in eight years of life lost for every one saved if Britain attempted to prevent Covid spread in the population.
People die. If Covid was so terrible in Sweden, explain why over 15 people died from non-Covid causes, for every one that died with a positive C19 test.
It’s not that we should do nothing. It’s that we should have avoided the monomania over just one cause of death.
FMD.
just squandered 60000 Telstra points on Bond — A Time To Kill
the missus asks what else can we buy with Telstra points?
RATs, I says
Swedish elderly also died because they were denied access to hospital beds, and in some cases given large doses of morphine.
I am embarrassed to admit this but I don’t know anyone who has or has had Covid. Such a shallow life.
PeterW
You being a little dishonest here. When Sweden changed course they had a pretty big deaths per million ratio for the time and in a relative sense. It was only after the change their ratio began to not look relatively as bad as others.
You’re idea of reality is to impose Sweden present ratio on the past and pretend they were doing hunky dory at the time. You’re delusional. If they were doing well they didn’t have to change course.
Yeah, an staying in a holding pattern avoid the dangers of landing…until you must.
Shouldn’t have even been that. The Pandemic Plan published in 2019, never suggested lockdowns despite countless years, experience and dollars going into it’s development.
No formal lockdown.
https://www.ft.com/content/0c07de5f-e852-4c23-823b-5f8f7d18ebef
The plane must land (or crash) sometime.
Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knew that once the first lockdown ended, it was going to start again. It was merely delaying the inevitable, at an incredible cost financially and socially.
Seriously, they’re a despicable country in many ways. I can’t fucking stand those arseholes. They were naturally endowed with hydro and now lecture the rest of the world on emissions.
They were killing mild physically disadvantaged kids up the 70’s. Just snuffing them out, nazi style.
JC…
The pandemic did NOT tend to ease off as a result of lockdown.
The universal experience is that the disease moved in and out of populations, regardless of whether there were lockdown or not
The claim that lockdowns “worked” was contrary to fifty years of actual research, and was only revived in the middle of a media-politico panic after the Chinese claimed to have eliminated it after a very short lockdown.
Do you really believe them?
Does anyone?
The reality – again, verified by ongoing research but which was obvious 18 months ago, was that C19 came and went on its own timetable. It behaved like a seasonal virus….. just like many others.
It was known early that transmission outdoors and in highly ventilated venues was effectively non-existent….. so lockdowns fined people for walking on a beach, while forcing them to remain indoors where infective pressure was highest.
It’s a seasonal, airborne virus…. let’s stop pretending that it works by the rules that we want it to.
Let’s put a little perspective around this.
After nearly two years of ‘deadly’ Covid, 2465 people have died WITH it. That’s hundreds less than we typical lose PER WEEK from all causes.
Two years of Covid can’t match one week of natural causes in Australia.
As I said panic and hysteria reigned supreme.
Good night all.
Maybe some of us could try reading the experience of a Swedish Doctor, rather than your pet media panic-merchants.
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/08/04/how-bad-is-covid-really-a-swedish-doctors-perspective/
Good bit of work by police yesterday. Through a combination a lucky break finding one of my rifles, phone records, a photograph of a suspicious vehicle and an advertisement for some distinct furphy brothers water tank ends they found the two fucking POS Acid Heads in the caravan park that broke into my house and stole my rifles. Thus ended a two year 100+ property crime spree. The fucking arseholes would break into rural properties, take what they could, photograph the rest, then break back in to get other items when they got requests. $100k of stolen goods on hand, but unfortunately not my two remaining rifles.
And lets not forget Greta Funburglar
But that’s all irrelevant. The only thing that matters is: were they vax’d or not?
Sweden never had a lockdown.
Two wrongs don’t always make a right.
1. If you think I support lockdowns then for the fucking 1001 time, I don’t and you’re wrong to imply that.
2. Don’t argue with me, argue against the numbers we saw in every real lockdown here and overseas and the pattern of statistical behavior.
Telstra points?
You get one point for every minute on hold that right?
Not of the type we experienced, but they did restrict things.
I’m becoming more and more convinced I’m the only tourist in town.
My tower walk was somewhat impeded by the soft breezes.
Am lunching at one of the few places that stays open in winter.
They have pizza Chilicani with Sfilacci di Cavallo and one called Haway with Ananas.
Yes even in Italy.
What did Trump say about her? She looks like a very happy young girl.
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2021/12/we-cant-vaccinate-this-pandemic-away/
Note the qualifications of the author. The author is Emeritus Professor of Pathology at the University of Newcastle Medical School. He is a member of the Australian Academy of Science’s COVID-19 Expert Database
Sweden no formal lockdown but people stayed home voluntarily
Listen to a Swedish doctor? Like in between when the cunt isn’t busy euthanizing oldsters?
There are only two groups of doctors only worth listening to. American trained at Ivy League schools and Brits trained at Oxbridge. Everyone else claiming their docs are basically glorified nurses.
Great, great school. Ranks up there with Cornell, Harvard, and Stanford. I’m all “years”.
JC…
If you don’t understand that the differences were MAJOR, then you haven’t bothered to study the situation at all. The Swedes to not lock down because it was illegal under their own law to stop Swedes from moving around their own country and in their own community.
In comparison, the NSW Government made it illegal for me to travel 6 km down the road to do a welfare check on an ill member of my family.
…… and as has been posted (and you have ignored) previously, the data shows NO significant correlation between lockdowns and lives saved, or vaccination and the spread of C19 through the population. It is not me who is denying the data, but you.
https://www.pandata.org/time-to-reopen-society/
They’re
Always see arguments about sweden on twitter.
Sweden did better because it’s a big spread out country.
No most people in Sweden live tightly bunched in cities.
A big proportion of Swedish deaths were in migrant communities.
True.
What Sweden teaches is that people are mostly perfectly capable of self preservation without the heavy hand of government interference.
Not that lockdowns don’t work.
better than folding
What are lockdowns if not the ‘heavy hand of government interference’.
rosie, yr on holiday
you should have left you incredulity at home
Nice way of putting it , Rosie.
I suppose Franx
My point is people changed their behaviour in face of the pandemic without the government telling them they had to.
I’m sure Sweden has all the data on changes in how far and how often people moved around that Australia state governments do.
And even here the majority of people stopped going out as much before the government told them they had to.
post-hoc fallacies are all the rage these days
I find find in page allows me to skip a lot of tedious stuff, occasionally though you read something that you’d rather have not have.
Don’t forget Volvos, Abba, Saabs and Ikea meatballs.
Ikea everything, actually.
The only people that should be staying home are those that are actually too sick to work.
Like in the good old days.
I went to a Covid party this afternoon.
My local pub.
So many have had it and their jabs.
I think the jealous bastards spiked my drinks.
Slept through Flashdamce.
It’s settled then.
Nothing good comes out of Sweden.
right, that’s it
I’m putting Jura in there Highland Park
apart from the seaweed nose there’s no peat in that.
either that, or I’ve got the covid
going back to Bowmore
When the data is analysed with regard to timing, it becomes evident that private decisions in the absence of lockdowns, were responsible for the majority of saved lives.
Lockdowns were ineffective at creating any further saving of lives, and the costs of lockdown including the increased number of deaths from other causes should not be ignored.
The only way that you can claim that lockdowns “work” is if you pretend that a set of actions which kill more people than they save, are a success.
It’s not rocket-science. The current reasonable estimates are that lockdowns have pushed 100 million additional people into extreme poverty. That means that their gross weekly income would not buy you one cup of coffee. They cannot afford adequate food, clothing or medical supplies. Many of them will die, and at far younger ages than the average 80+ C19 victim.
Tell us again how you see this as “working”?
Speaking of holidays, I’ve managed to manipulate my TV’s settings to change English language shows back to English (a huge achievement for me)
Finally Walker Texas Ranger comes on ( as it inevitably always does) and to my horror is still in Italian.
Not to mention I finally realised Chuck uses a stunt double for his signature head kick.
My life is in tatters.
Charles XII did all right. Smacked up the Russians.
Their ladeeee water polo team.
The Bofors 40mm and Oerlikon cannons.
Various Vikings.
I don’t know that governments not mandating lockdowns would have made all that much difference to the poor in the third world.
The vast majority of westerners would still not have travelled, they would still have worked from home, ordered their groceries on line and generally waited until there was clear evidence of safe easily available medical treatments and or a vaccine.
ZK2A…
You would have seen the price rises in urea?
A lot of cropping farmers in this area are doing their budgets and concluding that growing wheat is probably not worth it.
When people complain about rising food prices, I’m going to be saying;
I told you so…
This is what happens when you panic about Covid and Climate Change.
This is what happens when you shut down your economy and transport system,, and drive up the cost of hydrocarbons!”
Failure to think things through has CONSEQUENCES
I don’t know that governments not mandating lockdowns would have made all that much difference to the poor in the third world.
Countless billions have poured into the pockets of Big Pharma and corrupt politicians.
You do not think this money could have been better allocated?
Rosie…
You may not understand the economies of third-world countries, but that does not excuse you from callously ignoring those who do. I say “callous”, because you have to care to read, instead of skipping over.
These are people with no social security, no savings and nothing in reserve. If they lose their job, or the market for whatever product or service they are trying to sell is diminished, they starve.
Mostly, they ignore the lockdowns, because they have no other choice.
Also, mostly, they have lower rates of C19 deaths than panicking westerners.
Tony makes the point.
Every dollar thrown at Big Pharma, or paying people to sit in front of the television, is a dollar that is not available to build hospitals, train medical staff, install plumbing (sanitation saves more lives than doctors), pay emergency services or look after the old-aged.
Poverty kills.
I’m not being callous. I’m well aware of the fragility of life in the third world that’s why my preferred charity is Aid To The Church In Need.
I’m just saying that the movement of funds via tourism from the first world to the third would have inevitably decreased during the pandemic, irrespective of government lockdowns.
Who is the dickhead who wrote this piece of full moon BS?
There were also government lockdowns in the third world.
I don’t know how heavily they were enforced though.
Excellent news, rickw
In which jurisdiction do the culprits face court?
Oh I don’t know. The ‘Charlie Gutsache’ did some sterling service in Afghanistan.
I’ve used Abloy locks for.. [a lot] ..of years.
That’s not to say the original statement isn’t substantively correct.
‘Nothing good comes out of Sweden’.
Australia’s looking great, though.
Used to be I followed the videos (youtube – I think) put up by a farm in Sweden that grew 10,000 acres of wheat (or other grains) each year.
Quite an operation.
Jupes,
Which poor skinny bloke was tasked to carry that bastard?
and nobody’s really talking about it.
and that really bothers me.
Perhaps we should start a tonntine.
Vaxxies are due to start dropping like flies at any moment now.
According to an impeccable source.
Or maybe a dead pool.
** individual results may vary
Vehicles.
LOL
Complete and utter retards.
LOL 2:
JC’s hilarious POV that anyone but Oxbridge and Ivy League doctors are worth anything.
The current reasonable estimates are that lockdowns have pushed 100 million additional people into extreme poverty
How many people starve to death now because food crops (corn) are used to make ethanol-based car fuel so fuckwits can feel better about themselves??
(For rosie: this makes their food scarcer & more expensive, resulting in them not having enough food to keep themselves alive)
He’s not even phoning it in now.
Even Novavax has a questionable ethics profile.
The evidence suggests that vaccination lowers immunity to Omicron.
Look. You can just assume the Papal office is vacant.
He’s just bloody useless.
Jupes.
Soft soldiers.
If you want to look at the old Cat, go ahead.
I called this as bullshit from the get go along with commenter twostix.
That wasn’t the issue though.
It was who was to blame for the lockdowns and mandates.
Scott. Bloody. Morrison.
The Federal Treasury controls the purse strings. The vaccine passport only exists because of the Commonwealth run Australian Immunisation Registry.
Morrison is up to his neck in his own bullshit.
Morrison is up to his neck in his own bullshit.
The one person who could have stopped all this bullshit -but he didn’t.
I would really love to know all the financial ïncentives” received by government people & politicians.
And that is the reason this isn’t going to stop – too many skeletons in closets. If the majors lost control of the government, then all their financial dealings would be able to be exposed.
The bastards are in way too deep to let this go – there will be no stopping the “hole digging” – it’s not “incompetence”- it is EVIL
rickw:
It’s like watching a train smash in slow motion. Both fascinating and tragic.
The government has created food shortages in a nation that feeds 70 million people worldwide, and have no bloody idea of what they’re doing or how to fix it.
This is Lysenkoism in reverse. It makes as much sense as sending all the waiters and cooks to lunch at midday to 2pm.
rickw:
Which is exactly what multiple people here said would happen.
Thousands of businesses & jobs wiped out, lives turned upside down, lives put into hiatus, coz the smartest people in the room got trapped by public collective hysteria into a “zero covid for eternity” cult.
I’m not sure Australia has sufficient numbers of lamp posts.
Johannes Leak.
Peter Broelman.
Christian Adams.
Peter Brookes.
Dave Brown.
Patrick Blower.
A.F. Branco.
Al Goodwyn.
Lisa Benson.
Patrick Cross.
Patrick Cross #2.
we are not malone
That’s funny because I knew with 100 per cent certainty that any measures to stop the spread would fail. I say so now. I have been saying it for 2 years.
The reason old people died (especially in the early stages) wasn’t because a virus ripped through them but because the panic over the non-existent virus caused a panicked medical response – particularly ventilators and Remdesevir.
As there is no virus and all the tests are meaningless the lockdowns, masks, vaccines couldn’t possibly have done any good and I consistently pointed out that there would be no (negative) correlation between anti-spread measures and disease prevalence. The only thing that “works” is to stop testing and/or use tests that aren’t sensitive.
Bullshit. The masses are evil and stupid and will believe whatever their TV tells them.
If the government had locked down pro-lockdown journalists, social media hysterics and health bureaucrats instead of the economy back in March 2020 then by the end of April 95 per cent of the country would have forgotten about the virus.
In addition, virtue signalling on every issue would have died forever and the government would have had free reign to implement a suite of policies to fix this country.
Lucky you, for some of us it’s unavoidable.
people taking personal responsibility
The Plantation: Then and Now
A US federal judge on Wednesday local time ruled that the sex abuse lawsuit against Prince Andrew brought by a longtime Jeffrey Epstein accuser could move forward.
In an opinion released on Wednesday morning local time, Judge Lewis Kaplan denied the royal’s motion to dismiss Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s suit against him.
According to the New York Post, Prince Andrew’s lawyers had argued in their motion to dismiss the suit that Ms Roberts Giuffre was barred from suing him because of a 2009 settlement agreement that she inked with Epstein to dismiss a Florida suit she brought against the dead paedophile.
The agreement releases “other potential defendants” from being sued by Ms Roberts Giuffre, but Judge Kaplan wrote in his decision that the language of the agreement is too ambiguous for him to dismiss the suit against the Queen’s second son.
“The parties have articulated at least two reasonable interpretations of the critical language. The agreement therefore is ambiguous. Accordingly, the determination of the meaning of the release language in the 2009 Agreement must await further proceedings,” Judge Kaplan wrote in the opinion.
Judge Kaplan added that “the releasing language” in the agreement is itself ambiguous.
Reading an interesting article on the Supreme Court vaccine mandate public hearing.
The author is saying that the States opposing it are really trying to thread the needle on the case.
That is, saying that this massive unconstitutional over reach is bad, but they don’t want to touch all the other clear examples of unconstitutional over reach.
Maybe it’s what has to be done to stop a vaccine mandate.
But the cynic in me thinks otherwise.
Biggest piece of wrongology in The Australian that I’ve read in years.
Head line.
Covid-19: ‘Unvaccinated hogging hospital beds and ruining my life’, says Parkinson’s sufferer
Oz subscribers, feel free to read.
I’d re-post the whole column but I can’t bring myself to spread such shite.
At least the writer discloses partway through the column it’s his father in law, but that should have been a subheading under the headline.
Today I learned, that Maryland almost seceded from the union.
Last time I looked at a map, Maryland isn’t that far south.
“He added that it also remains unclear whether a fourth shot will become necessary, with Pfizer set to conduct experiments on the issue.”
Let me save you (and your people) the trouble of putting on the dog and pony show, big fella.
Billions to be made if your experiments say it’s necessary?
I think we can safely conclude already, that your science WILL say it’s necessary.
But then the Oz redeems itself by reposting this column from the WSJ.
Slow the spread? Speeding it may be safer
We can’t be 100% certain, but risk for Australia is that we don’t get enough omicron infections.
Yes. The almost complete shutdown of the international cruise industry has hit hard on the majority of employees, who come from the third world and were mainstays of their families.
Other lost tourism jobs in third world counties have also had a shocking effect on family incomes.
Some discussion overnight on the Gustav 84mm apparatus. I have limited but enduring experience of that bit of kit.
Two men operate it. One aims and fires, and the other loads it from the rear .
‘Instinct will tell you to move your head away from the barrel at the instant of firing the weapon’, they said. ‘Keep your head next to the barrel’, they said. They didn’t say why.
The first time as loader (No. 2) I went with instinct anyway, and found out why.
Remember Roger Rabbit, when the first time he looked at Jessica Rabbit his eyeballs boinged out on stalks? That’s what happened. Also, the air in my lungs got sucked out of my mouth, almost taking my tongue with it.
I think I meant to say FUCK at that point, but got out ‘FUUuuuhh’.
Extremely accurate, is my other recollection.
With regards to the column:
Covid-19: ‘Unvaccinated hogging hospital beds and ruining my life’, says Parkinson’s sufferer
It should read, “government regulation & over reaction stop boomer getting experimental treatment that might marginally improve his life.”
And I can’t help but wonder why the columnist deliberately left out whether the treatment was going to be done at a public or private hospital.
Did you ever fire illumination rounds out of it?
You know, where you have to aim it up at 60 degrees so the backblast goes straight into the ground behind you?
If not, and you want to simulate the experience, get the biggest bloke you know, to grab the biggest lump of wood he can handle, and get him to flog the back of your legs as hard as he can with it…then double it.
‘FUUuuuhh’ indeed.
Gateway Pundit is essential reading today.
Da virus, the cover up, the election audits, new Pentagon documents, it’s all happening.
For those out of the loop wondering what a ‘Charlie Gutsache’ is:
https://youtu.be/8qaiD_dwr0U
From the Daily Telegraph…..I doubt Boris is going to survive this……..he’s own party are turning on him.
“Boris Johnson ‘sorry’ for partygate scandal as calls to quit mount
Boris Johnson has apologised for a lockdown-busting party at Downing Street, claiming it was a “work event” as calls for the British PM’s resignation get louder.
Boris Johnson has apologised after he finally admitted to attending a lockdown-busting drinks party at Downing Street.
After 24 hours of chaos and questions, the under siege Mr Johnson came clean about the garden party – but claimed he was there for just 25 minutes and it was a “work event”, reports The Sun.
The British PM, however, deflected calls to resign as opposition leader Keir Starmer called him a “man without shame”.
After days of dismal headlines and collapsing poll ratings, Mr Johnson said he regarded the newly revealed boozy get-together in May 2020 as a work event for Downing Street staff.
He conceded he did not appreciate how the event would look to millions of Britons who were respecting Covid rules, even missing out on farewells to dying relatives.
“And to them and to this House I offer my heartfelt apologies,” Mr Johnson told a stormy session of questions in the House of Commons.
“With hindsight I should have sent everyone back inside. I should have found some other way to thank them (his staff),” he added, admitting he had been present for about 25 minutes.
Mr Starmer said the British public believed Mr Johnson was “lying through his teeth”.
“The only question is will the British public kick him out, will his party kick him out, or will he do the decent thing and resign?
“The prime minister’s a man without shame,” Mr Starmer added, for the first time joining other opposition leaders in demanding Mr Johnson’s ouster.
Mr Johnson — who was fired twice in previous jobs for lying to his bosses — had managed to weather one of the world’s worst Covid death tolls thanks to a successful mass vaccination campaign, and his record as the leader who effected Britain’s Brexit withdrawal from the European Union.
But Hannah Brady, spokesperson for the pressure group Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice, said: “The prime minister’s lies have finally caught up with him.
“Not content with kicking bereaved families like mine in the teeth by breaking the rules he set and then lying to us about it, he’s now taking the British public for fools by pretending he ‘didn’t know it was a party’.” Even some on his own side want Johnson to go, but in response to Starmer, he urged all sides to await the findings of an internal inquiry he has commissioned by a senior civil servant.
“He is not resigning,” Mr Johnson’s press secretary told reporters. There have been a flurry of accusations about Downing Street parties held during lockdowns in 2020 which have dogged Mr Johnson since late last year, sparking public revulsion.
Lisa Wilkie was forced to film her brother dying of Covid in intensive care in May 2020, because their mother was not allowed to visit the hospital under the restrictions.
“People died sticking to the rules, and they broke those rules to have a bottle of wine,” a tearful Ms Wilkie told the BBC.
Mr Johnson’s apology followed the same pattern as previous allegations of Downing Street parties during lockdowns in 2020: denials or stonewalling, followed by a mea culpa in the face of documentary proof.
Senior Conservative MP Roger Gale said it was now clear that Johnson had misled parliament and was, politically, a “dead man walking”.
“Unfortunately what the prime minister has said today leaves people like me in an impossible situation,” he told the BBC, warning that Tory backbenchers could now hold a no-confidence vote.
Nigel Mills, another Conservative politician, said: “If the prime minister knowingly attended a party I don’t see how he can survive, having accepted resignations for far less.”
Mr Johnson was rocked when the email was leaked late Monday in which a senior aide invited more than 100 colleagues to the event on May 20, 2020, encouraging them to “bring your own booze”.
The event occurred when the government was ordering members of the public not to meet, even outdoors, and tight restrictions were in place on social mixing, including at funerals.
The party was held just over a month after Johnson had come out of intensive care with Covid, and some reports said it was staged with his full knowledge as a “welcome back” event.
Police at the time were fining people breaching the Covid rules, and had the option to prosecute repeat or egregious offenders.
Johnson could yet face a more serious, criminal probe by London’s Metropolitan Police. Even the front pages of newspapers that normally back him and the Tories were damning.
“It’s my party and I’ll lie low if I want to,” mocked The Sun.”
I have zero sympathy for Boris.
MatrixTransformsays:
January 13, 2022 at 12:01 am
The current reasonable estimates are that lockdowns have pushed 100 million additional people into extreme poverty
and nobody’s really talking about it.
and that really bothers me.
Don’t forget that plenty of Africa adopted lockdowns, basically starving workers who live from one days pay to the next.
No illum rounds for me, thank Christ.
I’d heard the stories. The back blast in that clip is of course invisible, but jeez.
India too, at the start especially, forcing city workers to return to homes in the countryside in hope that there they could eke out a subsistence living. Many could not.
Cassie,
You can picture Boris’ airheaded greenie missus going ‘but I WANT a party! Those horrible little plebs won’t know. Pleeeeesase please please. For me?’
BACK BLAST DANGER AREA
All ammunition natures: 60 metres to the rear of the weapon and 820mm either side of the axis of the bore.
Well done NSW!
78,000 positives!
Good.
In our little town that means the three to four local women who had a much needed part time job before those visa rorts kicked in can work again.
Excellent news, rickw
In which jurisdiction do the culprits face court?
Facing charges in VIC, one has already been refused bail because they were already out on bail whilst on their crime spree.
Well done NSW!
78,000 positives!
Won’t be long until someone scores a ton in VIC Vs NSW Mongocracy match!
Me too.
Some have been in a position to do very well, or at least be completely unaffected, by the last 2yrs.
It’s obvious they don’t care.
You’re right Dot. I clumsily left out Johns Hopkins.
In SA at least. It’s not so simple, if it wasn’t for lockdowns they would on strike anyway. The place is an irreversible basket case.
Boris needs to resign.
That said, at least he apologised for getting caught.
Newsom, Pelosi, De Blasio, Feinstein, the mayor of San Fran (repeatedly) didn’t apologise & said they were perfectly entitled to breach the lockdowns that were in place in their jurisdictions.
The whole Boris Johnson party things is bewildering.
Here is a guy who was hospitalised not two months before because he was so sick with the disease. He then slowly recovers and is quite happy to attend a party held in contravention of his own government’s lockdown.
So what is it? Is he
– dumb as a bag of hammers
– an entitled, lying sh*t
– not afraid of covid
Or a toxic mixture of all three. Whatever the answer, he should be booted, pronto.
Somebody thoughtful here pointed out the real significance of bozo’s party. It’s not just that it was hypocrisy in spades, that it was one law for the plebs and another for the political class. It was that none of the ppl in the know regarded the virus as a serious threat. And that they were happy to use it to terrify the gullible.
That’s important. It tells you that those who know exactly how dangerous the bug is, don’t give a damn about it. Except as a threat to the less well informed.
NSW hospitals today.
ICU 175
Vent 54
Total cases 536,025
22nd Sept
ICU 242
Vent 122
Total cases 54,919
It’s over freaks!!!!!
Or a toxic mixture of all three. Whatever the answer, he should be booted, pronto.
They’ve been following each other in their idiotic decrees. Watch us follow each other in ripping these mongrels from the trough.
You know, as a lover of history I’ve read about revolutions and societal upheavals and I’ve long thought how lucky I am to live in a democratic country where such revolutions and upheavals are never likely to happen.
I’m not sure anymore. I realise how utterly naive I’ve been. I now fully understand people’s furore about seeing elites not only subjected to different Covid rules, standards and behaviours whilst we plebs…..the demos…..are locked down, silenced and sneered at but also how these elites hold us in such contempt, such ridicule and such hatred. Everyday they give us the middle finger. Everyday they laugh at us.
The truth is that Boris’ garden party, with his Queen Carrie, at a time when ordinary Britons were being subjected to a ruthless lockdowns, is reminiscent of one of Queen Marie Antionette’s follies…except Queen Marie was probably a lot nicer than Queen Carrie and certainly had a lot more class. And don’t think for a moment that similar hasn’t happened here. The different rules, the venal hypocrisy, the staggering double standards are also rife here in Oz…..celebrities, politicians and other assorted SCUM…all given special dispensations to do things that we, the people, are not allowed to do.
A few months ago MSM scum highlighted…of course…how someone at one of the Melbourne protests walked with a mock noose. The truth is that I’d like to see a protest in every Australian capital city where EVERYONE who participates carries a mock noose.
That has been apparent since the get go, it has just taken a while to trickle into the public consciousness.
The other “tell” – the “servant” class masked while the “served” are mask free.
Definitely. Boris had it and recovered with no apparent damage. He knew it wasn’t a serious problem. So did everyone else at the party. But it was useful for frightening the peasantry.
Boris isn’t sorry about the party.
He is sorry about getting caught.
Farmer Gez, are they active cases?
“– dumb as a bag of hammers
– an entitled, lying sh*t
– not afraid of covid”
The second and third.
Boris is gonski. He’s lied to parliament. But Bern above is right…..the Democrat SCUM in the USA just continually shove shit in the faces of the people….and the people accept it.
Who’d have thought it was naturally going to happen:
Was it Pfizer or AstraZeneca that saw off the Spanish flu? 😉
Correlation doesn’t equal causation.
I just pulled this from the NSW Health site
333,235 Active cases
2,242 Admitted to hospital
175 In intensive care
54 Requiring ventilation
As of midnight. Fewer than 1% requiring admission. Of those, how many just for a couple of hours’ observation?
Total cases.
Active today 333,235
22nd Sept 12,837
Our authorities are like drunks who have run out of top shelf and cracked open Chateau De Meths.
How many were ALREADY admitted to hospital and/or have terminal comorbidities?
And of those, how many only knew they were sick because a RAT told them they were?
Hmmm
333,000 / 8,000,000 = 4.16%
Must be all of those unvaccinated people.
Bloody double jabbies! Get yer boosters ya varmints!
It’s got well past the point of silliness. Nobody should take any of this rubbish seriously. The only sensible response is getting angry at the pernicious fools who imagine they are in control.
I disagree with Cassie. I think we should parade with real nooses, not mock ones.
And use them.
This is the problem.
The official data says only 536k people in NSW out of 8mill have had COVID.
Say the number is double or triple that.
We still are no where near where we need to be.
We must try harder, bern.
Who was it used to come on here almost every morning and, although written in plain prose you could not help but read it as spoken breathless with excitement, “It’s happening!”
(Not having a go at Anchor What. It just reminded my of someone else’s idiosyncratic eruptions. Just can’t remember whose.)
Yes Dr BG
They’re breaking the operational parts of the economy to keep the medical service sector unstressed
Medicine has been promoted well beyond its actual necessity.
As I’ve said before, doctors aren’t gods, hospitals aren’t temples and I’m not worshipping either.
Cassie,
agree with you. It is beyond time we started becoming aggressive with the scum who rule us. Ordinary people can overturn bad policy without having to wait for their turn at the polling booth. The last, and I think the only time we had a massive fightback in Oz was the Truckies blockade in 1979. I remember that vividly. A lot of us went out there and cheered them on and took food and drinks.
The French have their Yellow Vests. The Dutch farmers in the last couple of years brought large parts of the Netherlands to a standstill when they rolled into the cities with their heavy farm equipment to protest the Greenie destruction of their livelihoods.
But the best one was the Bulldozer Revolution. One important thing to remember though, is not to just get up into the Pollies space, we need to fight the SCUM media at the same time time. The press and politics have a parasitic relationship with each other. They both need to be destroyed.
Also, People Power in the Phillipines.
Dot – This graph is pertinent, although US data.
From “The Geek in Pictures: Disapproval Edition | Power Line” (12 Jan, linky)
Bugger, forgot close link. Sorry.
Who can weld? I fancy a killdozer, I don’t think they come as stock.
Who are we picking as a replacement?
I’m hoping for Priti Patel.
The medical profession has done itself a great mischief over this whole, sorry, sordid event.
Their explicit and/or implicit support of medical mandates, and a two-tier society, will not be easily or readily forgotten.
“One important thing to remember though, is not to just get up into the Pollies space, we need to fight the SCUM media at the same time time. The press and politics have a parasitic relationship with each other. They both need to be destroyed.”
Correct. In fact my loathing of the MSM scum exceeds that of politicians.
Jesus wept.
So…you can lie about COVID being the Plague 2.0, but don’t tell fatties they need the Dr Rudi treatment (eat. less.).
Leftists Says CDC Is FAT SHAMING, Fat Woman CRIES & Gets TRIGGERED Because MRI’s Aren’t Big Enough
(IIRC, an MRI chamber is rather…large).
Eat. Less.
Eating less actually requires you to Eat. Less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg8k7ZPGM8A