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The Black Brook, John Singer Sargent, 1908

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Old bloke
Old bloke
January 11, 2022 12:21 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 12:22 pm

Bacon. What can’t it do?

In 1st, US surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient (10 Jan)

In a medical first, doctors transplanted a pig heart into a patient in a last-ditch effort to save his life and a Maryland hospital said Monday that he’s doing well three days after the highly experimental surgery.

While it’s too soon to know if the operation really will work, it marks a step in the decades-long quest to one day use animal organs for life-saving transplants. Doctors at the University of Maryland Medical Center say the transplant showed that a heart from a genetically modified animal can function in the human body without immediate rejection.

The patient, David Bennett, 57, knew there was no guarantee the experiment would work but he was dying, ineligible for a human heart transplant and had no other option, his son told The Associated Press.

“It was either die or do this transplant. I want to live. I know it’s a shot in the dark, but it’s my last choice,” Bennett said a day before the surgery, according to a statement provided by the University of Maryland School of Medicine.

The difference this time: The Maryland surgeons used a heart from a pig that had undergone gene-editing to remove a sugar in its cells that’s responsible for that hyper-fast organ rejection.

A bit tough on the pig, but if successful it’s a very fine medical breakthrough. Just no one say anything to PETA, please.

Cassie of Sydney
January 11, 2022 12:23 pm

” The best result is liars and greens destroyed Best possible result libs who can’t do anything and the LDP holding the balance of power.”

I would like that JC..but it won’t happen.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 12:23 pm

… it’s Albo’s to lose. I don’t think he will do another Peanut Head.

Albo has been quietly “reaching out” to faith communities and promised central Queensland will become a manufacturing “powerhouse” in a low carbon economy under Labor while speculating that coal mining could continue until 2050.

Whatever it takes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:24 pm

If you look at what was achieved under the Marshall plan, it is a crime with todays technology that there are no plans to build 10 majors dams in Australia over the next 10 years.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 12:25 pm

feelthebern says:
January 11, 2022 at 11:48 am
Buckets of hydro power helps.

Lucky bastards.

They’re just hypocritical scum though. Norway has the largest per cap production of oil&gas in the world. It’s bigger than most of Gulf riff raff.

Ironically, they’re kind of like us but with lots of hydro they can prance around as being clean energy consumers. Meanwhile they’re exporting bucketloads. FMD what a world.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 12:25 pm

Why is that the best possible result? The best result is liars and greens destroyed Best possible result libs who can’t do anything and the LDP holding the balance of power.

Because it’s within the parameters of what’s possible.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 11, 2022 12:25 pm

Good list Cassie. Paterson a damp squid. Bragg full on wef

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:27 pm

We need to be investing in turning energy into matter.
Yes, a Star Trek replicator.
Forget everything else.
Imagine if you had one of them in your home.
We’re not talking 3D printing either.

Tea, Earl Grey, hot !

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:28 pm

Paterson a damp squid

Remember when he was cool & tried to nickname some group of beta’s “The Wolverines”.
FMD.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 12:30 pm

If you look at what was achieved under the Marshall plan, it is a crime with todays technology that there are no plans to build 10 majors dams in Australia over the next 10 years.

The Libs have a plan to import the population equivalent of 10 minor cities instead.

johanna
johanna
January 11, 2022 12:32 pm

When charged to 100% Li-ion batteries corrode internally. Best not to charge over 90% or even 80%.

I keep hearing this, but it is simply not true.

My six year old Samsung phone, which I rarely use, is permanently plugged in to the recharger unless I go out and take it with me.

No doubt, its battery capacity has deteriorated, but according to the dogma it should barely be working at all. In fact, the battery works for 6-8 hours, no problem. I haven’t tested it beyond that. For most users, 6-8 hours without a recharge is perfectly adequate.

YMMV, but there are a lot of myths floating aroud masquerading as techno expertise.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 12:32 pm

Just taking the political angle of the Djoker situation.
WTF was ScoMo thinking?
(Yeah, I know).
Djoker had an exemption, granted under the auspices of two Victorian elf committees.
He was going to be playing in a Victorian venue, controlled by Dan Xi Man.
ScoMo could have just sat back and watched Dan take the pineapple over Djoker’s vax status and the exemption.
But after twelve months of allowing the state premiers to stuff him in his locker at national cabinet (JC/Faino style) he chooses this to be his Rambo moment.
And he now has egg all over himself whilst Dan is sitting back having a laugh.
What a maroon.

MatrixTransform
January 11, 2022 12:33 pm

imagine the waveform distortion created by a million 5kW rectifiers drawing most of their current within 30 degrees of peak voltage and zero outside that

5kW …phht!

see upthread there’s a battery that charges in 10 minutes
… and an inverter to go with it

ps: all my circuit theory books were lost in a flood

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 12:34 pm

there is the pollution caused by the mining of the rare earths .

That’s totally convinced me now. I’m so concerned about those dirty rare earths.

Cronkite, please!

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:36 pm

ScoMo could have just sat back and watched Dan take the pineapple over Djoker’s vax status and the exemption.

Egg daiquiri.

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 12:37 pm

JCsays:
January 11, 2022 at 12:25 pm
feelthebern says:
January 11, 2022 at 11:48 am
Buckets of hydro power helps.

Lucky bastards.

They’re just hypocritical scum though. Norway has the largest per cap production of oil&gas in the world. It’s bigger than most of Gulf riff raff.

Ironically, they’re kind of like us but with lots of hydro they can prance around as being clean energy consumers. Meanwhile they’re exporting bucketloads. FMD what a world.

Yep and they have a massive sovereign fund as a result. No wonder they are so happy over there. Will they eventually be struck with a devastating Dutch Disease?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 12:37 pm

Yeah that’s nice. The edict only came into effect on the 31st of December. So everything in your patronising “sandgroper” little screed about last years grain harvest was wrong.

Don’t make a habit of beclowning yourself.

Cleverdick, the grain was all but completely In before December 31st, 2021.

I had ringside seating to seeing the truckies queueing at each bin, all the way from Avon Yard to Merridin.

But please, do keep telling me how the dictates of jabbing for seasonal contractors loading the trains and trucks and export ships are somehow preventing farmers from getting their food to market…

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:38 pm

Rare earths are typically extracted in third world conditions using next to slave labour.
Therefore, we should not we worried about any of it.

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 12:39 pm

imagine the waveform distortion created by a million 5kW rectifiers drawing most of their current within 30 degrees of peak voltage and zero outside that

I’m not interested in imagination. There have been many studies done on the possible impact. I’m interested in those but I’m not qualified to analyze those studies. The conclusions though are not in the doomsday scenarios being painted here.

Anchor What
Anchor What
January 11, 2022 12:41 pm

Nothing will change until we sack the ideologues and put engineers back in charge of power grid design and functionality.
Too right Tom.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 12:42 pm

Just taking the political angle of the Djoker situation.
WTF was ScoMo thinking?

Some wag on Twitter suggested he wanted an “I stopped Novax” trophy for his desk.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 12:43 pm

But please, do keep telling me how the dictates of jabbing for seasonal contractors loading the trains and trucks and export ships are somehow preventing farmers from getting their food to market…

Given that practically everyone in the state has been subjected to Sneakers’ dictates since October (particularly anyone working on the docks. Which includes CBH’s bulk carrier loading operations in Kwinana, Albany and Geraldton) and most folks said ‘Fuckit! This isn’t going to blow out til we can vote ourselves rid of the prick in 2024.’ And did the barest minimum they had to do to comply.

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 12:45 pm

I can understand why bidets are popular in places where the sewerage system has a pipe diameter of less than bugger all.

Actual and recommended sizes:

2” – You need a separate basket for the paper, face down please! Don’t save up deposits either!
4” – Works with paper and most situations.
6” – Heavy duty applications such as PNG.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 11, 2022 12:45 pm

KFC chicken shortages, reduced menu as supply chain issues bite

Two important messages:

• The risks of over-specialisation;
• The importance of sub-editors in the Murdoch stable.

One important takeaway: Once fast food goes scarce, the Djokovic Imbroglio will seem like a chess Grand Master move.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:46 pm

If a former child soldier dies in a cobalt pit in west Africa but I still get my EV, did it really happen?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 12:47 pm

WTF was ScoMo thinking?

Your question exposes an assumption; you have assumed that ScuMo thinks.

Anchor What
Anchor What
January 11, 2022 12:49 pm

Mark Steyn says India is using ivermectin.
Is there anyway possible – apart from going there – to see if this is true/verified by credible sources?

FFS, there have been plenty of reports about this, as well as Brazil – pretty much anywhere without the money to pay Big Tech.
There was also (notably) Tony Nikolic’s letter of 7th July 2021 to the Minister for Health, which was published at the old Catallaxy Files site and will be somewhere in the Trove archives. Tony gave the exact formula for Ivermectin etc – three things as I recall.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 11, 2022 12:49 pm

A bit tough on the pig

Pigs are committed, it’s in their nature.
Unlike chickens, who are merely dedicated.
See also: bacon and eggs.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 12:50 pm

New (preprint) study suggests the vaccines don’t work against Omicron.

Concludes we need a massive roll out of vaccines & boosters.

#ifollowthescience

MatrixTransform
January 11, 2022 12:50 pm

I’m interested in those but I’m not qualified to analyze those studies

a message fourier

one needs to know la place in the schema of things

areff
areff
January 11, 2022 12:50 pm

WTF was ScoMo thinking?

Much same as when he rounded on Christine Holgate — ie., a stumblebum impulse rashly inspired by focus groups and surging unmoderated from deep in the void where no abiding principle whatsoever has ever been observed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:51 pm

Voters tell ScoMo what they think of his performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXYXGg3QFME

Seriously, Arrested Development series 1 to 3 was lightning in a bottle.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 11, 2022 12:51 pm

This is so sad.

That child will never again sleep properly.

Anchor What
Anchor What
January 11, 2022 12:51 pm

Given that the vaccines are only partly effective, what is WA going to do in the longer term?
Just stay shut down and secede?

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 12:52 pm

Just had a call from one of the blokes at my former work.

Joint is on the brink of collapse, COVID positive people stood down left right and centre, unvaxxed stood down or fired (me).

Worksafe visiting on Friday….

I reminded him that I knew how to refuel aircraft (but a bit rusty) and how to run the pipelines and batch tanks. 🙂

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 12:52 pm

One last comment on the WA Death Gluten Reaping of 2021-22:

On the run back to town yesterday, the fields are bare. Every pigsty at every receival site from Southern Cross to Avon Yard is full and tarped. And there are even extra pits dug at sites like Cunderdin. What little activity in the fields at present is farmers baling up and drying out chaff.

The back-end of the harvest rush was petering out just after Christmas Day, and the challenge is now to get it railed and road-hauled to ships. And those logistical bottlenecks have nothing to do with jab requirements for farm employees…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 12:54 pm

Given that the vaccines are only partly effective, what is WA going to do in the longer term?
Just stay shut down and secede?

HOP time for Sneakers and his ALP and ALP-aligned bugmen. Be it at the 2024/5 election or sooner

They are just trying to save face now. A braver Premier would let it all happen. But Sneakers is not a brave nor inspired man.

Dot
Dot
January 11, 2022 12:55 pm

Australia has plentiful thorium, uranium and potential hydro power.

We are economic vandals unto ourselves.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 12:56 pm

Scumo on the submarine tour: “What’s this big red button do?”

Chris
Chris
January 11, 2022 12:57 pm

Wow, so much going on.
Sandgropers are perhaps aware a bushfire had cut off Eagle Bay and Bunker Bay from Dunsborough, people were evacuated by 2am doorknocking SES volunteers this morning. Fire apparently contained for now, but an unhelpful wind change is forecast for this evening.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 12:58 pm

a bushfire had cut off Eagle Bay and Bunker Bay from Dunsborough,

Climate change no doubt.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 12:58 pm

Given that the vaccines are only partly effective, what is WA going to do in the longer term?
Just stay shut down and secede?

Once the polls turn, so will McGowan: “We have to llearn to live with this virus.”

The same comedy-drama that’s played out on the east coast will predictably be repeated with WA flair.

Kneel
Kneel
January 11, 2022 12:58 pm

“Easily fixed with a network of large scale batteries working in system support.”

I neglected to mention how hard this sort of load is on transformers too – if you don’t de-rate them, the eddy losses will overheat them right quick.

In any case, such waveform distortions are very hard to correct (other than dissipating them as heat in transformers!) “FCAS” is basically adding “inertia” to the system to reduce any “wobbles” in frequency (which rapidly turn fatal to the entire grid) and power factor correction (VARs or V/I phase angle – also grid fatal if excessive). FCAS can’t correct waveform distortions.

A million 50kW fast chargers is 50GW – around 50% more than current AEMO grid peak load.
A million 5kw “slow” chargers is 5GW – around 25% of current AEMO grid lowest load.
And that’s just one million of them, which is but a small part of our current passenger vehicle fleet.
Where do you suggest we get the power from – unicorn farts and pixie dust?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 12:59 pm

Can we have a caged, televised gladiatorial fight between Scumo and Dan of the dead?

Rules:
No one gets out alive.

Chris
Chris
January 11, 2022 1:01 pm

On the run back to town yesterday, the fields are bare. Every pigsty at every receival site from Southern Cross to Avon Yard is full and tarped. And there are even extra pits dug at sites like Cunderdin. What little activity in the fields at present is farmers baling up and drying out chaff.

Wow. The three days of rain just as you fire up the header never came? The Hanrahans of down home won’t know what to do with themselves. Off to Dunsborough for a break… oh.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 1:01 pm

Where do you suggest we get the power from – unicorn farts and pixie dust?

Kneel. Ain’t arithmetic grand?

jupes
jupes
January 11, 2022 1:02 pm

Is this Novax guy good or bad?

The best. A freedom fighter.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 1:02 pm

unicorn farts

You need to speak to that bird who was selling jars of farts on the interwebs.

Winston Smith
January 11, 2022 1:05 pm

Lysander:

You’re more likely to die from eating KFC than ChinaFlu but more shortages afoot…

Amazing isn’t it – the supply chain is going tits up – not because of the Wuhan Zombie Virus – but from the government overreaction and they still won’t back down.
The cost of a politicians ego is more than a trashed economy.
I will certainly be voting the sitting member out, Littleproud is toast, Lachlan Miller is going too.
I remember who did this to us. We all should.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 1:07 pm

On a roll today. One young magpie and a blue-face honeyeater kiddie have accepted food from the hand for the first time. Also went very close with a male peewee, who I think may’ve been a previous Cafe customer a couple years ago before being displaced by another pair. If only I could do this with politicians.

Dot
Dot
January 11, 2022 1:07 pm

feelthebernsays:
January 11, 2022 at 12:27 pm
We need to be investing in turning energy into matter.
Yes, a Star Trek replicator.
Forget everything else.
Imagine if you had one of them in your home.
We’re not talking 3D printing either.

Tea, Earl Grey, hot !

Mike McCulloch is working on this stuff. Quantised inertia will win him the Nobel one day, believe me.

21 peer reviewed journal articles so far.

Mater
January 11, 2022 1:09 pm

I’m interested in those but I’m not qualified to analyze those studies. The conclusions though are not in the doomsday scenarios being painted here.

Like dole bludgers in our economy, or renewables in our power system, we can support a finite amount of EVs on our grid before it overwhelms the system and has catastrophic impacts.

Get above that percentage, and you’ll melt the existing system to the ground.

The upside, of course, is that that’ll make us Net Zero compliant. Zero electricity = Zero Carbon emissions.

But don’t take my word for it, seek advice from the Clean Energy Council and their myriad of study’s.

P.S. It’s not wide spread knowledge, but years ago they toyed with the idea of having to get permission from the Power Companies to install Air Conditioning in your house, for the reasons I’ve outlined. They do it with installing solar now, for a similar reason.

In many areas though, the ability of the network to absorb the solar PV exports can be limited. It doesn’t stop anyone from installing a solar PV system but it can affect the amount of exports available.

https://www.powercor.com.au/for-your-home/solar-and-other-technologies/rooftop-solar/

BTW, comparing Norway with Australia (which has one of the longest interconnected grids in the world) is stupid. Given that Australia’s Distribution grid alone is more than eight times larger, over a country 24 times larger, in an environment which couldn’t be more different, it provides no useful case study. In fact, such comparisons are what has got us into this unholy energy problem.

But go ahead, you keep pushing the fairytale.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 1:09 pm

Mike McCulloch is working on this stuff.

That magnificent bastard.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 1:09 pm

And just like that, the narrative changed:

Biden’s CDC Director on Good Morning America, “The overwhelming number of [covid] deaths, over 75 percent, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 1:10 pm

Thanks Vicki for your query, you are a nice person to enquire, but I am not unwell. I had a rough 2021 though and the current round of doc visits is only about getting me back to good health. I am fairly robust again now. Look and feel youngish, good blood profile except for my LDL being up (cut back the butter, plow into the smoked salmon, I fixes it!) and mentally on top too.

Matrix, you are a classic aggressor of me here, nothing covert about it at all, like quite a few others. I am well aware of what real passive-aggression in a woman looks like, and re however many upticks I’d answer back that I don’t do that here, nor am I a waif, just have a sense of loss about this place. My view is that I simply respond, sometimes acerbically, when attacked. Neither am I a ‘Witch-Queen’. I’m a normal woman who has of late found a writing voice. Some find that objectionable, because of the way I write and the things I write about, and call Tall Poppy on it regularly.

That’s their prerogative, but I do not have to listen.

Gab
Gab
January 11, 2022 1:11 pm

Can we have a caged, televised gladiatorial fight between Scumo and Dan of the dead?

Rules:
No one gets out alive.

Dan would eat him alive.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 1:12 pm

Dunno, Scott “The Staircase” Morrison might have some tricks up his sleeve.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 1:13 pm

What I am interested in lately is this:

There is a little twelfth century church I know of that once belonged to my ancestors who are buried there within it. I have recently found out is under dire threat and I am going to gird my loins in the UK to try to save it, hopefully with advice from that extraordinary charity, The Friends of Friendless Churches. That’s my current project and a better one than wasting too much time blogging, even though it is five minutes to midnight for the church, the Anglican Church having in 2021 introduced new rules making saving these churches harder, and success is not guaranteed. I am currently seeking an appointment with the relevant Diocese. I will support this charity regardless of any personal outcome, because look at the good work they are doing on a shoestring.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 1:13 pm

Dan would eat him alive.

Not if Morrison deployed the belly flop off the ropes first.

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 1:14 pm

BTW, comparing Norway with Australia

I didn’t compare it, it is a case study.

But don’t take my word for it

I won’t because you haven’t referenced anything of value.

Get above that percentage, and you’ll melt the existing system to the ground.

That’s an imagination. Critique the available studies otherwise you are spinning wheels creating dust and noise.

Barry
Barry
January 11, 2022 1:15 pm

Anchor What says:
January 11, 2022 at 12:41 pm

Nothing will change until we sack the ideologues and put engineers back in charge of power grid design and functionality.
Too right Tom.

Look, I agree with the sentiment, but if I look at Engineers Australia (the peak professional body for Engineers in Australia), they are 100% renewable, green, diversity shills.

It’s not possible to progress as a young engineer in Australia unless you worship woke.

And there is no way we could ever build a reactor. All the (admittedly meagre) quality and engineering rigor mindsets evaporated with the exit of the automotive industry.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 1:16 pm

OK.
On auto batteries, we need to compartmentalise the issues:-
1. Battery range. JC reports that Merc claim to have resolved that (I will post something below about how that might be so). This was previously seen to be a technological limit which couldn’t be solved, so is important if true.
2. Rapid charge. Sounds great but have they solved the battery life trade-off? Is it controllable? That is can I trickle charge if I wish? This might also have grid/generation implications
3. Grid capacity. This is not a technological barrier. It can be fixed (albeit at a very high cost) but there is no limiting law of physics here.
4. Generation capacity. See 3 above.

Dot
Dot
January 11, 2022 1:16 pm

Listened to an old interview of Terrence McKenna on Art Bell.

Strange dude, but he opened my eyes, even if I don’t agree with all of it.

Some of his ideas:

1. God probably exists.
2. Nature prefers novelty.
3. 2. sort of proves 1.
4. Nature tries to preserve novelty.
5. Evolution is actually the emergence of novelty.
6. Time has its own properties, outside of general relativity and it isn’t uniform.
7. Time travellers haven’t come back because we haven’t invented time travel yet.
8. He reckoned the I Ching could be proved to be better than randomness.
9. Stoned ape –> introspective human sentience and creativity, morals etc.
10. Novelty arises from the intrinsic nature of time, regardless of GR effects.
11. Magic mushrooms are highly intelligent, panspermian, intergalatic spores…like Da Space Orks (but want symbiosis with humans).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 1:17 pm

Rare earths are typically extracted in third world conditions using next to slave labour.
Therefore, we should not we worried about any of it.

You’re thinking of “coltan” Bern, which is a mix of niobium and tantalum oxides, use in mobile phones.

Rare earths are conventionally mined, like Lynas does. The issue is the processing complexity and the actinides in the ore – uranium, thorium and daughter isotopes. The Chinese are particularly messy in mining and processing, but are cheap, which is why they’ve cornered the market.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 1:21 pm

They key phrase in JC’s link last night was “silicon anodes”.
I heard somewhere a few weeks back that an Australian guy was claiming a breakthrough here. I can’t remember the precise technical detail but it was around silicon being cheap and plentiful and having some excellent properties for use in batteries, but it had a major drawback (instability maybe?).
It sounded like this was firmly in the “R” stage of R & D and wasn’t close to commercial scale and repeatability in manufacture yet.
Maybe Merc have solved it.

Mater
January 11, 2022 1:21 pm

That’s an imagination. Critique the available studies otherwise you are spinning wheels creating dust and noise.

Is it?
Just a sample.

2009 southeastern Australia heat wave

Localised power outages occurred throughout both cities during the week at varying times for various lengths. It is estimated that over 500,000 residents in Melbourne were without power for the evening of 30 January 2009. The outage affected much of central Melbourne with train and tram services cancelled, the evacuation of Crown Casino, traffic light failures, people being rescued from lifts and patrons of the Victorian Arts Centre evacuated and shows cancelled. The outage occurred only an hour after the National Electricity Market Management Company (NEMMCO) issued a statement saying load shedding was ending and power had been restored.
Blackouts also occurred in the city’s west, caused by the three-day heat wave. It is believed an explosion at South Morang contributed to the power problems along three transmission lines supplying Victoria’s west and Victorian power supplier SP AusNet shed 1,000 megawatts.

The power of intermittent air conditioning. Imagine what two EVs per house could do.
That’s right, you’re not into ‘imagining’, you’d rather experience outright disaster.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
January 11, 2022 1:23 pm

It’s quite possible that a dipping point has been reached here in Oz and the insanity might start to unravel very quickly.

How long have we been telling ourselves that for?

With a vax passport system now in the NT, my lunches with friends are off the agenda (sharing a bottle of wine is a key part), although one unvaxed friend and I are considering picnics somewhere along the foreshore where drinking is allowed.

So now I’m trying to judge whether it will be to hard to implement and the passport system will collapse, or whether things will get worse and the passport system will be extended to my dance classes, hairdresser, retail shopping etc.

If I buckle and get vaxed it will still be at least 6 weeks before I have a valid passport. Pfizer requires 3-6 weeks between shots, Moderna requires at least 4 weeks between shots, then it’s 14 days after the second shot before you’re considered effectively vaxed. So that takes me to late February if I book in for a first shot asap.

If I have to get vaxed, I’d like to wait for Novavax (or any traditional, non-mRNA vax). Even if Novavax is approved by the end of the month,as apparently Greg Hunt has suggested, it looks like requiring two doses with 4 weeks between doses. That means it would be the middle of April before I’m “effectively vaxed”.

I don’t want to get vaxed, but if things are going to get worse, then I also don’t want to put it off too long.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 11, 2022 1:23 pm

My wife was a little taken aback when she got a refusal during the ‘sign of the peace’ handshake at a funeral yesterday.
A non boomer around the 40 mark gave her the head shake. She also noted that the communion was handed out in the usual way and the entry to church was open but the cup of tea after required a double jab to get in.
Only God knows how this works.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 1:24 pm

Has anyone noticed that a fisherman never goes home while the fish are chomping at the hook?

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 1:24 pm

Dotsays:
January 11, 2022 at 12:55 pm
Australia has plentiful thorium, uranium and potential hydro power.

We are economic vandals unto ourselves.

China has developed a thorium\molten salt nuke plant that will be part of its future energy mix. Great for Aus because doesn’t require a water supply so why haven’t we done it! China is claiming to have a tokamak fusion result that smashed the previous record. The West is sitting on its arse, spinning wheels with the tokamak plant in France that is looking more like a huge white elephant with each passing year.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 1:24 pm

Can’t resist.
Australian Sarah Snook has just received a top Golden Globe for her role as Shiv in ‘Succession’.
‘Succession’ also took out the best TV Drama of the year. That’s on top of a raft of earlier accolades for the various actors, and the series as a whole.

Luckily, the woke Golden Globe crew fail to see how savagely satirical this show is of the political left as well as the political right. It presents in Season 2 a Democrat media empire in all of its tawdry glory, with smug virtue-signalling characters so full of themselves, and the left are too far immersed up their own bums to see that they are being ferociously lampooned by that. They think the lampooning is only against the Murdoch/Hearst mogul and the populist right.
So much blinkering.

duncanm
duncanm
January 11, 2022 1:27 pm

Dr Faustussays:
January 11, 2022 at 11:37 am
Only 4 shitters. A long queue. Some very very ugly scenes.

At a restaurant on the ski slopes at Les Houches. The toilet facilities are in a largish basement room – 1 stall and 1 open urinal – with stairs doglegging down two sides.

A chap gets to push past the 30 ladies waiting on the stairs, undo his layers of ski pants and thermals, and perform – all under the hateful gaze of 60 desperate eyes.
(With some anxiety.)

I’d be groaning a loud, slow and satisfying “ohhh yeahhh..” as I pissed.

Barry
Barry
January 11, 2022 1:29 pm

There’s thousands, literally tens of thousands of potential battery”breakthroughs” being studied worldwide. They all have the “potential” to improve battery capacity / efficiency / volume by around 2-3%.

2-3% is a BIG deal, because it takes about a couple of years to get that level of improvement in battery tech.

So if you add them all up, you’d expect to make at least a 100% improvement in the next year, right?

Nope, improvements will continue to be slow, because the topic has been studied to death, and the sheer economic importance of batteries means that all the low, medium and high hanging fruit has already been picked.

We can continue to look for 2-3% improvement per year, but that’s it.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
January 11, 2022 1:30 pm

Has anyone noticed that a fisherman never goes home while the fish are chomping at the hook?

They do if they’ve got a whinging wife in the boat
🙂

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 1:31 pm

Can we have a caged, televised gladiatorial fight between Scumo and Dan of the dead?

Battle of the block headed Mongs.

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 1:33 pm

I’d be groaning a loud, slow and satisfying “ohhh yeahhh..” as I pissed.

Also aiming to maximise splashing sound effect!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 1:33 pm

Has anyone noticed that a fisherman never goes home while the fish are chomping at the hook?

Some fucking fishermen never go home, Sancho. They seek entertainment.

I have noticed that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 1:34 pm

China has developed a thorium\molten salt nuke plant that will be part of its future energy mix.

Good luck to them, but a leak in a MSTR leaves you with a pool of highly radioactive molten stuff on the floor. Sort of problematic. At the same time halide molten salt systems are extremely corrosive (direct Bruceish experience), which the aluminium guys handle by having a frozen salt layer in their pots. That isn’t feasible in the MSTR because the whole idea is to extract the heat of the fission reaction to produce steam for a turbine. That would be made very difficult if you had a thick layer of salt preventing heat transfer.

On the other hand Chinese engineers are very good at making stuff work if they get the plans from someone else. So they may succeed. Or you could end up with four or five sites around China that no one can get into due to radiation, rather like the Fukushima reactor buildings.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 1:36 pm

Can’t resist.
Australian Sarah Snook has just received a top Golden Globe for her role as Shiv in ‘Succession’.

Liz, without trying to sound excessive, did the host kindly ask her to lose a few pounds especially around the butt or did she voluntarily say she would?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 1:37 pm

People walking in and out of Coles today with no QR check-in; most wearing masks, loosely.

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 1:40 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
January 11, 2022 at 1:34 pm
China has developed a thorium\molten salt nuke plant that will be part of its future energy mix.

Good luck to them, but a leak in a MSTR leaves you with a pool of highly radioactive molten stuff on the floor. Sort of problematic. At the same time halide molten salt systems are extremely corrosive (direct Bruceish experience), which the aluminium guys handle by having a frozen salt layer in their pots. That isn’t feasible in the MSTR because the whole idea is to extract the heat of the fission reaction to produce steam for a turbine. That would be made very difficult if you had a thick layer of salt preventing heat transfer.

On the other hand Chinese engineers are very good at making stuff work if they get the plans from someone else. So they may succeed. Or you could end up with four or five sites around China that no one can get into due to radiation, rather like the Fukushima reactor buildings.

Bruce in the article I read they referenced how you could build those reactors in the desert. So here’s an imagination. In Western China there is a huge desert that presents all sorts of logistical problems for the military. A molten salt reactor there for military facilities might be just the trick for them. So what if it leaks, its only military personnel that will suffer. (:

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 11, 2022 1:40 pm

Where do you suggest we get the power from – unicorn farts and pixie dust?

Hah. You didn’t think that one through very far.

Snowy 2.0 – backed up with Green hydrogen.

Winston Smith
January 11, 2022 1:40 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer:

Ordinarily, I’d agree but mostly pertaining to his age, however this is special. Trump needs to run and win as a form a payback to the left. There’s water under the bridge but it’s not moving until he’s re-elected for the lies and the cheating committed against him. Payback is a bitch

Worth repeating.
And repeating again.
President Trump will have fire in his belly now and will not let these bastards get away with shit.
First task is to gut the FBI/CIA, then the Courts and the military. Or vice versa. Be merciless, President Trump – purge the entire bureaucratic state.

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 1:43 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 1:43 pm

Liz, without trying to sound excessive, did the host kindly ask her to lose a few pounds especially around the butt or did she voluntarily say she would?

The Woke GG’s didn’t have a ceremony, just an online release of awards, Covid-afearing.

Yep, she is carrying surplus poundage in Series 3 and she is prone to a big bum anyway I like it because it emphasises her vulnerability. A woman in her position would be prone to adding weight given the stressors. Gina R comes to mind there. Either that or they go anorexic. I do think that the producers will ask her to slim down a bit for the next series to keep up with contemporary tastes. Those sundresses can only contain so much avoirdupois before they pop or they have to move her up a size.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 1:45 pm

Mater

I was on my iphone replying to your comments about energy supplies which was in response to the comment left to me by John H. It was a little hard getting it all in so here goes.

1. John H was speaking about energy capacity and consumption in the US. Most states, other than california seem to have reasonable energy supplies.

2. You mentioned our supplies appear to be a very fine balancing act. That may be true, but will it apply 20 years from now – and keep in mind that the increased demand from the EV space won’t be a sudden upsurge but a gradual increase similar to the increase in demand that we’ve seen in the past. Even though things look bleak now, I’d be really surprised if tight energy was the thing 20 years from now. Moreover, there’s an insatiable demand for energy and has always been there since we began to use electricity. At every turn we’ve managed to satisfy demand. At some point we’ll come to our senses.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 1:52 pm

At some point we’ll come to our senses.

The problem here is lead times on construction and turbines.
When we come to our senses we will have to wait a while.

Planning ahead is something other countries do.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 1:53 pm

The Viking spoof series ‘Norsemen’ has an answer to the problems of ladies needing to pee.
Just wear no panties, lift your skirts, straddle your legs wide, and let it tinkle.
Apparently quite popular too with the ladies caught out in Versailles in the days of the Louis.
Mostly it seems out of modesty or laziness they didn’t even bother to lift their voluminous skirts.
Skirts obvously evolved as a response to female anatomy and biology.

local oaf
January 11, 2022 1:53 pm

rickw says:
January 11, 2022 at 1:33 pm

I’d be groaning a loud, slow and satisfying “ohhh yeahhh..” as I pissed.

Also aiming to maximise splashing sound effect!

I’m guessing Homer Simpson in World Trade Centre bathroom is your desired groaning effect!

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 1:54 pm

I’d be really surprised if tight energy was the thing 20 years from now.

It will be given what we’re currently planning.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 1:56 pm

If they’re sensible the Chinese will also develop conventional fuel-element style thorium piles, like the Indians have been doing (and the West isn’t). The Indians have gone that way because they have a lot of thorium in monazite HMS deposits, but not much uranium.

I know that CANDU have been doing a lot in China, and their reactor design can take thorium, so I suspect the Chinese are going in that direction also. I don’t know what the Chinese have in the way of heavy mineral sand resources, which is where most monazite comes from. But since they’re big miners of REE and since thorium accompanies rare earths in those deposits as a byproduct I think China has plenty of thorium available to use.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 1:58 pm

Did anyone hear about this story?

A small plane made an emergency landing in California and it was very successful but with one slight teenie weenie little problem. The pilot made it through the crash and the emergency crews arrived to help. Just in the nic of time, the crew managed to get the dude out of plane as a train careened into the plane and turned it into little pieces. The dude had crash landed on train tracks. There was barely seconds to spare to get him out before the train smashed into the plane. Fuuuccck.

132andBush
132andBush
January 11, 2022 2:00 pm

This is so sad.

There’s only one good thing in that clip.

Mater
January 11, 2022 2:02 pm

JC,
Energy capacity is just one half of the problem.
You’ve missed the point about our grid being built around household electricity use only.

My point is, above a certain level of penetration, we’ll need to rebuild the entire grid. Something that has taken a hundred years, and an incredible amount of investment, to develop.

It’s a pipe dream, and an expensive one at that.

As for John H’s comments, perhaps you misunderstood him. His comments were clearly about the grids ability to absorb them.

According to him the grid question is not as severe as some here argue. He uses the example of how the spread of air conditioning didn’t collapse the grid yet it required an extra 20% of power.

I’ll trust that engineer over anyone here because he does the numbers. Sure he might be biased but at least his quantifications can be subject to further analysis whereas what people write on blogs is an unverifiable opinion. Also, he’s a quantity and math nut.

I gave a response accordingly. If he wants to live his life according to ‘studies’, fine. I choose to live in the real world, where unicorns only occasionally visit.

Frank
Frank
January 11, 2022 2:03 pm

There are advantages to authoritarian rule …

Would prefer not to live downwind of any of those ones though.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:07 pm

JC,
Energy capacity is just one half of the problem.
You’ve missed the point about our grid being built around household electricity use only.

I didn’t “miss it”, as I understood “capacity” to mean production. Are we using say more energy than we did in the 1990’s? I would guess we’re using loads more because our population has risen and per capita consumption has also gone up. How was it possible to satisfy that amount of demand while you’re suggesting it would be very difficult to do the same over a 20 year plus period?

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 2:08 pm

Bourla swallows hard in this clip.

He knows he’s just about to expose his own lie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wXFGZYTVWk

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 2:10 pm

I don’t want to get vaxed, but if things are going to get worse, then I also don’t want to put it off too long.

Helen, Hairy and I have decided that beginning of April will be a good time for us to get a booster, to keep us ‘legal’ for our May month in the UK. His view is that we need a booster as close to departure time as possible because at any stage they may introduce some insane new date limits (only if done in the last two months, for example). Nor can we expect much more sanity re getting into the US in October for our Panama cruise, so we are timing it so that mid-September we can if necessary get another booster which reads as a few weeks before departure.

We’d prefer Novavax to Pfizer any day for a booster, and if Novavax is not available (I seriously doubt it will be ready by April 2022 for us in Oz) we intend to take AZ for it if that still makes you ‘legal’. We’ll take a careful check on the US view of the AZ produced in Australia before doing that though.

I don’t mind doing the vaxx at our age and with our comorbidities. Wouldn’t object to a minor dose of Omicron either as a proper immune boost.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:10 pm

Here’s a chart history of energy consumption in Australia since 1974. It’s steadily risen with the exception of the wuhan bug blip down.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:11 pm
Winston Smith
January 11, 2022 2:12 pm

Rabz:

Anyone got any suggestions, please? I’ve bought some double sided adhesive tape, but haven’t tested it out yet.

I had that problem, too.
Double sided tape melts in the sun.
Tarzans Grip melts in the sun.
Superglue doesn’t melt in the sun.
If the windscreen gets broken, a new one costs bugger all – especially if you buy it at the two dollar shop, not the dealers.

Mater
January 11, 2022 2:14 pm

I’m not referring to production, I’m talking about transportation to homes.

The cable in front of your house can only transport a finite amount of electricity. If everyone in your street plugged in two EVs each, I’d predict that that would overwhelm the cable (let’s forget about the transformer/s for a bit). When that happens, you no longer have electricity.

Building generation is cheap compared to rebuilding the poles and wires to transport it to everyone’s garages.

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 2:14 pm

I gave a response accordingly. If he wants to live his life according to ‘studies’, fine. I choose to live in the real world, where unicorns only occasionally visit.

To state the fucking obvious: the real world is built on technology which is built on studies and experiments.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 2:14 pm

rickw says:
January 11, 2022 at 2:08 pm

By the time they get their stupid “Omicron” version ready, it will have mutated yet again cf. “flurona”.

He’ll keep lying to keep the share price boyant.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 11, 2022 2:16 pm

a leak in a MSTR leaves you with a pool of highly radioactive molten stuff on the floor.
Not necessarily. Either you dump the molten salt into the containers under the reactor that have neutron absorbing materials around them or the fusible plug does it for you automatically if the salt overheats. The thing runs at no great pressure at all anyway. The corrosion problem is known and there are mitigations.
These things are likely FAR safer than the pressurised water or boiling water reactor designs in use now.
In any case having some stuff on the floor is far preferable to having it blown out the top of the reactor into the atmosphere and you still end up with a radioactive mess on the floor.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:17 pm

Mater

Major infrastructural changes have occurred before. The grid itself was built from scratch by a much poorer, less technologically capable world. I don’t see this as a huge issue.

How are Norway handling the grid problem in view on the EV uptake there? Do you know?

132andBush
132andBush
January 11, 2022 2:20 pm

The Dunning Kruger effect is strong today.
Must be Tuesday.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 11, 2022 2:21 pm

Lots of things are technically possible. Engineering is about finding economical solutions.
Attributed to Mark Twain who quite likely didn’t say it ” an engineer is someone who can do for fifty cents what any damn fool can do for a dollar”.
Allegedly also from southern California aerospace executive during the 1960’s ” are you sure he got that the right way round?”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 11, 2022 2:22 pm

Mostly it seems out of modesty or laziness they didn’t even bother to lift their voluminous skirts.

The stuff you learn at the Cat:

Family cloths;
Adult nappies;
The design basis for crinolines.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:26 pm

Mater

The Mercedes sales guy suggested that the best way to charge the car (quickest) is by 3 phase if you have capacity to do so at home. I do, I believe as our system is CBus (?). I think I could run a smelter in the underground garage.

Mater
January 11, 2022 2:26 pm

Major infrastructural changes have occurred before. The grid itself was built from scratch by a much poorer, less technologically capable world. I don’t see this as a huge issue.

The cost will be eye watering.

How are Norway handling the grid problem in view on the EV uptake there? Do you know?

Small country. Small Distribution system to upgrade. Far less expense, but they’re having their problems, too.

– Norway will handle the EV load, but more investments in distribution grids are required – and the effects are localised.

– Looking beyond Norway, we are likely to see much larger impact on grid investments in markets with lower average levels of electricity consumption compared to Norway.

https://www.dnv.com/article/norwegian-electric-vehicles-revolution-drives-grid-investments-and-managed-ev-charging-can-save-millions-179377

And that’s from a ‘friendly’ source, so quite understated.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 2:26 pm

Faustus, those family cloths aren’t nappies. They’re tp substitutes.

Yikes!

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 2:28 pm

As for the big skirts, makes sense for a time when people were sewn, pinned and laced into their clothes.

Mater
January 11, 2022 2:28 pm

To state the fucking obvious: the real world is built on technology which is built on studies and experiments.

And I showed you the real life consequences.

I’ve seen some of the studies, and they are deliberately vague, bordering on delusional.

Gab
Gab
January 11, 2022 2:30 pm

JC – are you converting your car to electric?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 2:30 pm

Just a quick light entertainment question.
Has anyone been watching “Succession” on Stanflix.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 2:31 pm

Roger at 12:23 – only need to get enough of them on board for one Saturday every 3 years. The Liars biggest problem is credibility on 2 fronts, boats and “There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”. You can build a pretty good negative campaign right there. I think most would still resonate with even the most disengaged punters. I don’t think it will be enough this time around.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 2:32 pm

Gabsays:

January 11, 2022 at 2:30 pm

JC – are you converting your car to electric?

Conversion.
Such a Christian word loaded with white colonial undertones.
The correct term is “transitioning”.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 2:33 pm

Something to send along to any Lefty friends or family members.

Maybe they’ll have an “Are we the baddies?” moment.

And another one on the Great Barrington declaration by the same authors, who identify as Lefty academics.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:35 pm

Small country. Small Distribution system to upgrade. Far less expense, but they’re having their problems, too.

In a sense we are too with 90% if the population congregated in the 4 1/2 big cities.

Correct me if I’m wrong :-). The eastern seaboard can be considered as one grid with some crossover with Adelaide and an underwater cable to Tassie.

Over a 20 year period you could fortify Sydney, Melbourne and perhaps Brisbane ( but who gives a shit and Brisbane). That’s where 90% of the national car fleet is anyway.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 2:35 pm

HK locks up a bunch of officials who breached the COVID restrictions.
That’s how you do it.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 2:35 pm

We’ll find out soon enough, Bear.

Once the Omicron has ripped through the population.

By that time Morrison may have an interest rate rise to contend against too.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 11, 2022 2:37 pm

Lizzie, clothing evolution went from loincloths, to skirts, to… trousers. For men and women. I’da thunk you knew that?

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 2:38 pm

Over a 20 year period you could fortify Sydney, Melbourne and perhaps Brisbane ( but who gives a shit and Brisbane).

Nice little interconnectors we have here. Be a shame if something happened to them.

132andBush
132andBush
January 11, 2022 2:38 pm

Experiments one can do at home, #1

Take one, four outlet power board (10amp rated)
Plug in four 1800w hair dryers.
Turn them all on.
For added effect, bypass the breaker.

Mortgage the house to buy a power board that will cope.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 2:39 pm

When Prince Albo ascends to the throne, will this be a positive or negative for the ALP premiers at their next election?

Winston Smith
January 11, 2022 2:39 pm

…if the Government intends to hold a normal (House of Representatives and half-Senate) federal election, election day must be no later than 21 May 2022.

That will be a nice little birthday present.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 11, 2022 2:40 pm

Faustus, those family cloths aren’t nappies. They’re tp substitutes.
Yikes!

Good Lord.
Horror piled on horror.
And at lunchtime.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 2:40 pm

Poles and wires is very unglamorous part of network management. Mater is right, any significant change will be eye watering. And eventually that cost will end up with end users.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 2:40 pm

Mater.
I did acknowledge that the cost of distribution network upgrade would be yuuuge.
But that is not central to the question of charge cycles and range for EVs.
That was seen to be a key technical barrier for EVs and if Merc have solved that, the remaining question might be simply infrastructure cost.
Implicitly the Merc battery is not higher capacity, just higher efficiency, which of itself takes pressure off the network.
The phrase which has been used here is “everyone plugging in their EV at 5:30 every night”.
If the Merc had a 14, 21, or 28 day cycle, that issue is somewhat alleviated.
BTW, I am agnostic about EV vs ICE.
Whatever meets my needs at a reasonable capital and run cost.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:41 pm

JC – are you converting your car to electric?

Missed this.
Oh ,toying with the idea at this stage, Gab. I really like the more expensive version of the Mercedes EV crossover. I drove it and the thing is as fast as. I don’t give a shit about emissions though. I just like the unique feel of no gear change and fast acceleration.

I know, I have to keep in mind the batteries would need to be replaced in x years and even if I don’t keep it the car’s value would show the impact of that depreciation. I just love the idea of plugging it and the cost is 10 around bucks. Look, if I bought one, I’d also keep the other car just in case 🙂

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 2:41 pm

Tee hee.

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 11, 2022 2:41 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
January 11, 2022 at 1:07 pm

If only I could do this with politicians.

Too risky, don’t hand feed politicians, you’ll lose your fingers.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 11, 2022 2:42 pm

Mortgage the house to buy a power board that will cope.

Not just the power board but the wires from the feed in to the house to the board. Been there, had it done.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 2:43 pm

We’ll find out soon enough, Bear.

True. Can’t help thinking it will be close either way. No one is knocking the lights out for a decade or so.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:43 pm

Poles and wires is very unglamorous part of network management.

Bear, that shit needs to go underground. It’s disgusting sight pollution. Let’s spend the bucks and stick it 6 feet under. 🙂 That crap is all underground in our street and looks good.

tommbell
tommbell
January 11, 2022 2:43 pm

welcome to McGowan’s Utopia … vee have vays you know?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 2:44 pm

Just wait for Audi to bring out their EV.
Will be better than anything else on offer.

Winston Smith
January 11, 2022 2:44 pm

MiltonF:
Here.

The Washington State Board of Health may soon amend state law to authorize the involuntary detainment of residents as young as 5 years old in Covid-19 “internment camps” for failing to comply with the state’s experimental vaccine mandate.

Another line waiting to be crossed.
You watch, the stupid, stupid bastards will cross it too.

Indolent
Indolent
January 11, 2022 2:44 pm

Biden’s CDC Director on Good Morning America, “The overwhelming number of [covid] deaths, over 75 percent, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”

No, you missed the bit about “vaccinated”. Obviously, the vaccinated can’t die from Covid, so they must have multiple comorbidities.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:45 pm

Mortgage the house to buy a power board that will cope.

I have one according to the sparky. No biggie.

JD
JD
January 11, 2022 2:48 pm

Apa Khabar? Our neighbours in the North are actively pursuing Nuclear Power and have completed preliminary studies. And this is thorium on a floating barge!!

https://thorconpower.com/indonesia/

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 2:49 pm

For those that can leave an EV car in the garage all day it probably makes sense. Let the PV trickle charge it all day and run your dishwasher off it at night.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 2:50 pm

Lunchtime and I wander into the kitchen. Hairy waves a piece of paper at me. A tax for daring to enter Canberra on holiday, he announces. I look at Infringement Notice, Camera Detected Offense. Offense Location: Northbourne Avenu/Barry Drive/ Cooyong Street, Date 29/12/21 at high noon. Vehicle speed 51. Last time I was there it was 50, he says, and now so many damned trees you can’t keep your eye on the signs. Big open highway, a revenue raising trick trap for tourists. Penalty Payable: $301.

Send them $300 and let them chase you interstate for the rest, I suggest.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 11, 2022 2:50 pm

JC

Even though things look bleak now, I’d be really surprised if tight energy was the thing 20 years from now.

Unless Kung Flu turns out to be a Trojan Horse superbug that targets Greenies and Lefties, in 20 years time we will still be seeking clearance of the approval for the plan to conduct an investigation that might lead to consideration of the possibility for an environmental impact statement for a survey to decide on a possible site for a nuclear reactor. To put it into bureaucratese.

Mater
January 11, 2022 2:50 pm

Over a 20 year period you could fortify Sydney, Melbourne and perhaps Brisbane ( but who gives a shit and Brisbane). That’s where 90% of the national car fleet is anyway.

A roundabout near me took nearly three years to complete. Yes, a simple round about. We don’t have the work ethic to pull of such a miracle. Most people simply aren’t aware of the measures required to ‘fortify’ a grid. To them a pole, three wires and a galvanised box, is where it begins and ends. In truth, that’s just the start.

The Unions still control the Electricity Sector. Such a project would make the desalination plant seem like a model of probity. Who’s going to pay for it?

Currently, any upgrades land squarely on the shoulders of home owners, and we are talking in the tens of thousands each household, plus collective infrastructure which goes on to Electricity bills. Most people don’t have the resources to fund this stuff, certainly not on the timeline the ideologues want.

It’s much easier said than done. Buying a bloody EV is the simplest element of a cobweb of problems…very expensive problems.

The most obvious answer is to ration EVs, but where does that leave the unlucky ones when they start putting pressure on ICE vehicles?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 2:51 pm

that shit needs to go underground

where will the birdies sit?

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 2:52 pm

I know B John

And don’t forget the 7 legged frog species that lives in the locality .

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 2:53 pm

Apparently that part of this Canberra road is now zoned 40.

Oh well, I comfort him. I did get my unworn NYE party dress in a sale.
But it’s not the money. His pride is wounded.
He makes a big deal of my not noticing signs; puts himself on sign watching duty when I’m driving.
I am sooo sympathetic to him. Oh my, would that perhaps be a little passive aggressive? 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 2:55 pm

JC – no doubt underground power looks better. Street trees certainly appreciate it. We got all the bumph from the local council a while back. It was still pretty steep even with 50% government contribution. Not sure what the result of the vote was.

Indolent
Indolent
January 11, 2022 2:56 pm
Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 2:56 pm

Roger at 12:23 – only need to get enough of them on board for one Saturday every 3 years. The Liars biggest problem is credibility on 2 fronts, boats and “There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”. You can build a pretty good negative campaign right there. I think most would still resonate with even the most disengaged punters. I don’t think it will be enough this time around.

I think Scomo has done quite a good job on wedging the ALP on climate whilst not losing righties because he’s not increasing anything. “Science and technology, not taxes and rules.” Get used to it cos you’re gonna hear it a lot!

srr
srr
January 11, 2022 2:59 pm

For those who only saw the Spanish title and scrolled past, it is in English (with Spanish sub-titles), and well worth the short 11 minutes –

Cartoonist Bob Moran lectures against Covid tyranny
https://odysee.com/@FLC:1/Bob-Moran-contra-la-tiran%C3%ADa-Covid-19-FLC:e

Mater
January 11, 2022 2:59 pm

Just to bring an end to the seemingly endless to and fro.

The original statement was:

According to him the grid question is not as severe as some here argue. He uses the example of how the spread of air conditioning didn’t collapse the grid yet it required an extra 20% of power.

The problem is as severe as we say, if everyone is forced into EVs, and you don’t rebuilt the grid.

The end.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 11, 2022 2:59 pm

Here you go Johanna:
https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries
All you need to know about all sorts of batteries.
Note the following from the link: “Lithium-ion suffers from stress when exposed to heat, so does keeping a cell at a high charge voltage. A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature and for most Li-ion a voltage above 4.10V/cell is deemed as high voltage. Exposing the battery to high temperature and dwelling in a full state-of-charge for an extended time can be more stressful than cycling.”
It goes into much more detail. Reducing the maximum charge voltage (and hence % of full charge) prolongs life. Note some devices have a battery saver mode that charges the battery to only 40% or so. Your device’s manufacturer may put in a slightly larger battery and restrict the maximum charge. This will make the battery last a lot longer.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 3:00 pm

Bear.

The dog will hate it though. He’d really miss not being able to hang a leg up and take a slash against a pole. But then, he’s not going to live long enough not to really appreciate it.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 3:01 pm

Jab related?

Doesn’t seem so. It’s usually a dead (scuse the pun) giveaway when they include Lifeline’s number at the end.

132andBush
132andBush
January 11, 2022 3:03 pm

Not just the power board but the wires from the feed in to the house to the board. Been there, had it done.

My power board example was meant to be an analog for the suburban, up to the dwelling, distribution network.
The four 1800w hair driers were used deliberately as well.
You can run one of them comfortably, two at a pinch if both are not running flat out. Forget any more than two at whatever power setting you care to use.

What the green eyed fantasists want to do is run four, constantly, at full power. That’s the issue here.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:03 pm

Just wait for Audi to bring out their EV.
Will be better than anything else on offer.

Would not tempt me unless they change their foul GPS system. Clunky in the extreme.
Even then, we are looking at a gas-guzzling Merc for our next car.
I will however check out the GPS prior to purchase. Little things matter a lot with cars.

Indolent
Indolent
January 11, 2022 3:04 pm

Professor: COVID Survival Rate For Under 20s is 99.9987%

This is what we’re killing children for.

132andBush
132andBush
January 11, 2022 3:04 pm

Gotta zip.

The moisture in the gluten has finally fallen to 12.5%.

John H.
John H.
January 11, 2022 3:05 pm

Matersays:
January 11, 2022 at 2:28 pm
To state the fucking obvious: the real world is built on technology which is built on studies and experiments.

And I showed you the real life consequences.

I’ve seen some of the studies, and they are deliberately vague, bordering on delusional.

No you didn’t, you just put forward an opinion. You have cited a single study.

So you’ve seen some studies. Did those studies have unicorns? Were those studies in the real world?

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 11, 2022 3:05 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 11, 2022 3:05 pm

rickwsays:
January 11, 2022 at 12:52 pm
Just had a call from one of the blokes at my former work.

Joint is on the brink of collapse, COVID positive people stood down left right and centre, unvaxxed stood down or fired (me).

You mean to say a transport hub, with thousands of people a day coming from all over is having staffing troubles because of w00-flu?

Its almost like the common cold or something.

twostix
twostix
January 11, 2022 3:06 pm

Boomers.

Can’t live with them, can’t live….with them.

I hold Morrison and Perrottet personally responsible for making my grandchildren suffer

My two youngest grandchildren, aged nine and seven, have COVID-19. Both are high-risk immuno-compromised children. The nine-year-old is also prone to lung infections and has damaged lungs from an especially virulent infection three years ago.

Over the past two years, their parents have done everything possible to protect them against COVID-19. My grandchildren haven’t been to school since mid-June 2021. They lost weeks more schooling than other children in 2020, too.

Ok Boomer.

Oh and anyone who wants to know where the vast “human rights” brigade has been for the last two years:

Chris Sidoti
Chris Sidoti is a former Australian human rights commissioner who worked with the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission from its foundation in 2002.

Mater
January 11, 2022 3:07 pm

No you didn’t, you just put forward an opinion. You have cited a single study.

You cited a fucking YouTuber!

srr
srr
January 11, 2022 3:08 pm

Too much EV’s, electric tools, selling bad American soaps & other curious diversions, endlessly posted to bother scrolling through, but these empty shelves everywhere, has anyone of the many who bagged Struth for warning of it (saying it wouldn’t happen), apologised to him?

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 11, 2022 3:08 pm

Get above that percentage, and you’ll melt the existing system to the ground.

That’s an imagination. Critique the available studies otherwise you are spinning wheels creating dust and noise.

Several years ago on the local (Perth) ABC news an interviewer was talking with the grid manager for the local electricity supplier. The interviewer asked him what his greatest concern was for the future, if it was more air-conditioners or large screen TVs.

The energy supply bloke considered his question for a moment and then said his major concern wasn’t with air-conditioners or large screen TVs, he was worried about an increased take-up of electric vehicles.

The interviewer was a bit taken back by this statement, everyone, in his circle of friends at least, knows that electric vehicles are sacred and holy, so he asked why the grid manager was concerned about them.

His answered that if there was widespread adoption of electric vehicles and everyone came home from work at around 6 PM and plugged their cars in to recharge at the same time, the grid would “melt.”

Delta A
Delta A
January 11, 2022 3:08 pm

On this day, 53 years ago, I married the very Best Man in my world. Tonight we will be celebrating with all our offspring. How lucky am I.

Indolent
Indolent
January 11, 2022 3:10 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:11 pm

JC – no doubt underground power looks better. Street trees certainly appreciate it. We got all the bumph from the local council a while back. It was still pretty steep even with 50% government contribution. Not sure what the result of the vote was.

Half of our street went for underground power, no government subsidy, one house kicked in $50K to improve their view and others some big K’s too, as it was hugely expensive; the other section of the street couldn’t work up much enthusiasm. No views, no dice. Our views are at our rear, not street front. We kicked in provisionally to improve the general streetscape, but were not called in on it.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 3:12 pm

You know, the Simulation is seriously weird at times. Eerily so. Today, I had to hire a kid for the family business and she’s available until August at which time she’s off to Stanford. She’s supposedly very bright. She’s going there on a full sports scholarship which obviously helps eliminate the cost of around US80K a year.

What’s eerie and weird? She’s a younger clone of our American friends’ daughter who also attended Stanford university a while ago. I’m not kidding, she’s the younger clone.

Baba
Baba
January 11, 2022 3:13 pm

JohnQuiggin
@JohnQuiggin
· Jan 8
“Living with Covid” is like “Living with Domestic Violence”. We can’t eliminate either but we should make strenuous efforts to suppress them. Would those who mock “Zero Covid” say the same about advocates of ending Domestic Violence?

Well, yes.

Franx
Franx
January 11, 2022 3:13 pm

Re queries about Djokovic being about in public while positive: test results can take several days. Also, not unknown for results to be negative at first but positive later, making the positive retrospective to the test date.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
January 11, 2022 3:13 pm

Oops, incorrect report comment at 12.58pm! Sorry, Kneel.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 3:14 pm

How much would it cost and how long would it take to upgrade the grid?

How much did gubbmint spend on the NBN and how long did it take?
Are they finished yet?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:14 pm

Well done, Delta A. True and lasting love. You can’t beat it. Congratulations.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 3:15 pm

Too much EV’s, electric tools, selling bad American soaps & other curious diversions, endlessly posted to bother scrolling through, but these empty shelves everywhere, has anyone of the many who bagged Struth for warning of it (saying it wouldn’t happen), apologised to him?

When are you going to apologize for pizzagating the old site as well as Twitter to the point where you were unceremoniously kicked off both? How about your apology prior to heading back to the kitchen?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 11, 2022 3:15 pm

Delta A

Congratulations, may you have many more such celebrations.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 3:15 pm

I thought immuno-compromised had early access. Article smells iffy.

Fucking oath it does.
If the kids are ticking time bombs, the father should have been more careful.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 11, 2022 3:17 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

Lady of Shalott, whats her bit in the Arfur story?
Or just tacked on afterwards?
Ive always loved the painting..

P
P
January 11, 2022 3:17 pm

Delta A
January 11, 2022 sat 3:08 pm

My thoughts and best wishes for a wonderful celebration tonight.
You have much to celebrate!

Gab
Gab
January 11, 2022 3:17 pm

He’s lucky to have you, Delta! Congratulations.

Indolent
Indolent
January 11, 2022 3:18 pm
Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 3:25 pm

…has anyone of the many who bagged Struth for warning of it (saying it wouldn’t happen), apologised to him?

I don’t believe I had a dog in that fight, but what was the rationale he offered for his prediction?

I ask because the present situation is the result of government mandates and could be resolved quite quickly if those were relaxed.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 3:25 pm

Serious gerbil warming in NYC on Tuesday.

Tue
Sunny
-6°C
-8°C

“Sunny” means it’s too fucking cold to form clouds.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 11, 2022 3:28 pm

What’s eerie and weird? She’s a younger clone of our American friends’ daughter who also attended Stanford university a while ago. I’m not kidding, she’s the younger clone.

Same sporting event?

Try going to a sprint event, its like being in a room full of identical roided midgets who all share the same daddy.

Some sports/fields seem to need a “type” of person to be competitive.

132andBush
132andBush
January 11, 2022 3:29 pm

Congratulations, Delta !

Winston Smith
January 11, 2022 3:30 pm

Speedbox:

Is mufti night like muff night or are they different things?

Apparently they are different.
I know that now.

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