Open Thread – Weekend 15 Jan 2022
1,699 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 15 Jan 2022”
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Aaron says:
January 15, 2022 at 11:34 am
“Dr Gerrard said the Covid deaths were happening in a range of settings, including hospitals, aged care facilities, and homes and some people had a short period of illness and then sudden death – often from the heart condition myocarditis”.Well fancy that.
At what point will the slow thinkers begin to connect the dots? Ever, or never?
What will it take for their sleepy brains to begin detecting patterns?It is theatre of the absurd for dummies now.
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Funnily enough, they have some BS astroturfed shit about Jan 6 people locked up being no biggie because of something that happened in Riker’s Island.
Same thinking with Pell, people wanting him punished for the sins of others.
In the Leftist mentality people are not primarily individuals but members of a group.
It represents a gigantic step backwards for Western civilisation.
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Duk
Welcome back. Thanks for the explanation for negative efficacy, although it’s easy to figure what it means by seeing both words together.
Here’s the issue. Earlier on, Eyrie was suggesting the inherent “negative efficacy” effect of the vaxxes is causing people to get covid twice.
I pointed out to him that it isn’t surprising people end up getting a different variant of covid, but it’s very very rare to hear someone getting the same variant twice. In fact we have friends living in Miami where the couple got the Alpha and now are just on the recovered side of Delta.
It was explained to him there is no surprise in people suffering a version of two variants but it is for getting the same strain twice. He seems to have a problems acknowledging this, which is why he gave your negative efficacy recognition. I thought I’d put it out there.
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“Same thinking with Pell, people wanting him punished for the sins of others.
In the Leftist mentality people are not primarily individuals but members of a group.
It represents a gigantic step backwards for Western civilisation.”
Yep….it’s not just a gigantic step backwards, it’s dangerous, it’s sinister and it leads directly to lynchings…be it Arndt, Pell, Porter and others…..and note that those targeted are never leftists, it’s always those on the right.
And the left will never ever admit they get anything wrong.
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Frank says:
January 15, 2022 at 4:24 pmSomeone I used to think was ok was Jimmy Carter.
He was pretty rabid at times with the pro Pali anti Israel thing.
Look, he was totally useless, but he did one thing really well. He deregulated a lot of spots in the US economy that needed to be deregulated. Airlines would be one example. Airline deregulation may not have been good for the shareholders, but it’s been a boon to consumers.
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Restaurants losing $100k per week in ‘worse than lockdown’ conditions
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“Zyconoclastsays:
January 15, 2022 at 3:50 pm
The UK is bringing in new legislation to ban online racist trolls from attending football stadiums for up to 10 years.Now that BloJo has done the important work, he can focus on secondary issues such the child r@p3 gangs.”
And of course the first person they’ll target is Tommy Robinson.
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Old blokesays:
January 15, 2022 at 4:07 pm
Even if someone had the means to leave Australia permanently to somewhere more to your liking, would you take your chances with a jabbed airline pilot?
Oh, spare me!
Seriously, if you’re such a bedwetter that a major life decision is going to be determined by such an infinitesimal risk as that, you probably forego the right to bag people worried at Covid as “hysterical COWS”.
What?
The risk of both pilots having a stroke or something simultaneously?
How many airline accidents have there been in the last 18 months caused by pilot incapacitation?
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Hawke has trodden on Federal judge dick.
Federal Judges generally dont approve of cases sent for review being “short circuited” by ministers.Whatever.
It’s gone from the Federal Circuit of the Family Court to the Federal Court.
New judge, different Court.
If Hawke doesn’t like the decision he can call for a Judicial Review, it’s his right on behalf of all of us.
Meanwhile, Djoker can sit it out on Nauru.
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Old bloke says:
January 15, 2022 at 4:07 pmThat link didn’t work, try this one…
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It’s gone from the Federal Circuit of the Family Court to the Federal Court.
Grigory
This “dumb conservative” schtick is giving you brain damage and compounding previously acquired brain damage.
Soon you won’t be able to differentiate your beliefs and the kayfabe ones.
Lefty troll ends his former self and brainwashes himself into a low IQ Freeper.
Ahh, good times.
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Yep….it’s not just a gigantic step backwards, it’s dangerous, it’s sinister and it leads directly to lynchings…be it Arndt, Pell, Porter and others…..and note that those targeted are never leftists, it’s always those on the right.
I was also thinking of the potential it creates, in the longer term, for third world style internecine violence. Then you need a strong authoritarian government to keep a lid on things and it’s a downward spiral into tyranny. Leftists don’t realise how precious and fragile our way of life is. By demanding perfection they’re going to destroy it.
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Microsoft has included a new function in the latest version of its Word software that acts as a checker for inclusivity and offers PC alternatives to phrases which could upset snowflakes.
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This is a great discussion, the Triggernometry guys talking to Theodore Dalrymple…please watch….
Theodore Dalrymple – The Truth About Crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZyS9p-lXLM&list=WL&index=4Dalrymple is also very funny.
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This “dumb conservative” schtick is giving you brain damage and compounding previously acquired brain damage.
Equally as dumb as an obvious shill trying to throw back ‘glowie’ as an insult and short-circuit the fact he has been outed and called on his bullshit by multiple people this morning.
Maybe the pair of them will accidentally morph into SovCits and spend the rest of their days raging about Admiralty Law.
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Rex Angersays:
January 15, 2022 at 4:41 pm
This “dumb conservative” schtick is giving you brain damage and compounding previously acquired brain damage.Equally as dumb as an obvious shill trying to throw back ‘glowie’ as an insult and short-circuit the fact he has been outed and called on his bullshit by multiple people this morning.
Maybe the pair of them will accidentally morph into SovCits and spend the rest of their days raging about Admiralty Law.
And we can laugh and throw sea shanties at them…
You’re still glowing. Glowie.
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Yes Cassie I remember the Carter Iran debacle in 1980- I was still in High School. The thing we were fed in those days was that Carter was for detent and Reagan was Raygun who wanted a nuclear war. The danger of atomic war was rammed down our throats in those days. Scaring the young- now it’s globull warming and the China bug.
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then again why would you even want a dual passport
To avoid the queues at LHR.That was one of the last great pleasures of a UK passport.
On arrival you got to walk briskly to the UK Passport Holders desk (quick glance, ‘Thank You , sir’) while two 747’s of “Aliens” waited in a pen for two immigration officers to slowly and grudgingly let them though.
It meant something to be British.
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The risk of both pilots having a stroke or something simultaneously?
The pilot interviewed (link doesn’t work) was concerned about about the pilot having a bad turn on the final approach. Mid flight isn’t a problem, the pilot can die and the co-pilot can take over without any issues, but on the final approach there’s no time to reorganise things.
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That was one of the last great pleasures of a UK passport.
On arrival you got to walk briskly to the UK Passport Holders desk (quick glance, ‘Thank You , sir’) while two 747’s of “Aliens” waited in a pen for two immigration officers to slowly and grudgingly let them though.
It meant something to be British.
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It meant something to be British.
I went straight to It Ain’t Half Hot, Mum when I read that.
#Glorious
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Wow that got repetitive in some of the Annexes. Hawke is using his powers which are pretty broad. They admit Novak is low risk, they accept he co-operated, had the right visa and a person of good standing with no history otherwise, yadda yadda yadda. However they are basing their case on the fact he will by, mere presence, encourage people to make a stand against forced vaccination. Going on other visa cancellations especially for conservative speakers for much less, I’d say we are at checkmate.
There a lot of fluff in the submission, especially the newspaper articles which shouldn’t hold weight as they are a journalists opinion and all likely cherry picked snapshots. That seems for local consumption as the MSM will definitely latch on to it.
They seem to downplay the political fallout internationally from this, I really don’t know whether internationally how damaging it will be. I suspect from a world perspective the bleeding obvious will be discussed, why grant the exemption & visa in the first place? Then pirouette once he lands because of local politics. Not good optics.
Also this guy is very influential due to his status and will now have the irritation of more paperwork wherever he goes due to a visa cancellation. Also will have sympathetic voices in international sports bodies. Could that affect Australia hosting future events? The effect will wane over time but he could cause some short term discomfort.
Be interesting to see his legal teams counter to Hawke which should be up later.
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The pilot interviewed (link doesn’t work) was concerned about about the pilot having a bad turn on the final approach.
Well, there is a lesson here.
Don’t worry about pilots generally.
Just don’t fly with this one.
He has just admitted his own incompetence. Whoever has control for landing, if he/she shows signs of incapacity, the non-flying pilot calls “taking over” or “my aircraft”, shoves the balls to the wall and goes around.
Even on short final.
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‘health and good order’ in terms of attitudes to the vax:
Surmising -The absence of ‘good order’ implies wrongdoing.
In which case, the matter is something like that of another high profile appeal where the onus of proof was to show that it was not impossible that wrongdoing could have occurred, with Djokovic’s case being the need to show that it is not impossible that wrongdoing will occur.Anyway, if Djokovic is judged a threat to good order then people like Craig Kelly might, just might, be safe from detention for as long as they don’t leave the country and wish to re enter.
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Jimmy Carter’s brother, Billy Carter was a cool guy and genuinely funny.
Not saying he wouldabin a Great President or anything, but he definitely wouldabin an improvement on Trump.I much preferred his Great-great-great-great-great-great-Grand Uncle, Magna.
Also, a ‘wouldabin’ is something you store bits of logs in, in the more mountainous and Alpine regions of Italy.
Not something you use to reinforce gypsum-fuelled failure…
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They seem to downplay the political fallout internationally from this, I really don’t know whether internationally how damaging it will be.
The rest of the World hate Australia, we’re the new Apartheid South Africa, though apart from Gideon Haigh, no one mentions it.
It was a StoogeUp to embarrass the Coalition from the GetGo, Serbs and Serbia are notorious for stupid politics, that’s how they gave themselves so much grief in the 20th Century.
Bottom Line:
Scotty came out on top anyway and it’s off to the Election before the Bushfires “accidentally” kick off again. -
Hmmm
There are a few Jewish people here so I can totally understand if people can’t stand slippery Nick J Fuentes.
The thing is, his hot takes are often correct, despite him being really shrill about some other nonsense.
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I mean he even looks like the coomer meme so who would’ve expected this”
“Nothing is more sad than “adult men”, who think a man’s value comes from women.”
“Reminder that Ethan said he can no longer get erections and craps his pants due to his meds”
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miltonf says:
January 15, 2022 at 4:43 pmThe hostages were released almost simultaneously with Reagan being sworn in as the US President. There were plenty of negotiations beforehand (with Algeria as the mediator!) but I recall hearing a story that the US side made it crystal clear that Reagan was an entirely different man to Carter. Namely, that Reagan was in no mood to negotiate further and the full resources of the USA will come to bear. The USA will brook no further humiliation and for each hostage life lost, Tehran and the holy city of Qom, can expect serious, and upscaling, retribution.
Thus the Mullahs (Khomeini specifically) determined they had milked this incident as far as it could go. The release time/date was specifically scheduled as a final ‘slap’ to Carter.
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Rex Angersays:
January 15, 2022 at 5:12 pm
How is Albanese and The Labor Shillerati at The Australian going to spin that?I don’t think even Grigory is blind, deaf and retarded enough to be unaware of how the entire leftwit establishment is going to spin an apparent embarrassment they provoked the Federal Government into making…
Nice one glowie. Your so awesome.
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Rex Angersays:
January 15, 2022 at 5:06 pm
Please listen to biggles when it comes to piloting tips, he has an A340 in the cow paddock.Better than a closet full of tinfoil and a copy of the Protocols.
Remind me, just who do you think controls the world’s central and reserve banks again, dollar-discount Bird?
Nice comment. Glowie.
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Rex Angersays:
January 15, 2022 at 5:15 pm
Will do. Glowie.Sorry Glowman, but you as stunning, brave and likely to carry through on your grandiose pronouncements as Struth.
But please do keep trying to salve your ego by posting ‘Glowie’ in response to anything I type. It’s totally going to expose and upset my credibility.
Totes, even…
Nice one. Glowie.
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KKK on Twitter:
So, according to the Morrison Govt:
Novak’s anti-vax views are dangerous
But…
The Liberal-National’s own George Christensen can spread as many COVID conspiracies as he likes
Another leadership failure by Mr Morrison
Shaddowz – fully Vax’d ??
@Shaddowofadream
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does this mean can we deport Gorge Christensen too ?
Touringsun
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Yes …..the member of Manila should be in Manila . ?
Australian Liberal Party (but honest)
@LiberalOz
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Ms Keneally. If we needed Novak’s vote on the floor of the House, we would be consistent here. -
It’s expressly not health risks, or paperwork cockups.
There’s been no suggestion that Djokovic would actually use his celebrity to proselytise his views on vaccination.
Hawke’s (read the Morrison Government’s) express reason for revoking the visa substantially boils down to ‘we’ve lost control of part of the flock and can’t trust the buggers to behave themselves’.
That’s vaxxed and unvaxxed buggers.
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Just looked up Hawke.
Hawke is a Sydney Uni Regiment old boy, Troop Commander in 1/15 RNSWL. Wow the NSW party is an incestuous lot, wasn’t Reynolds another Army Reserve type from the same flock? Kept David Elliott out of the seat so small mercies. Seems he used the NSW Conservatives to get a leg up then promptly dumped them by doing deals with “moderates” aka Photios. He is also in one of the safest seats out there so expect to see Hawke for the long haul.
Ed, seriously if you believe the Bushfires and this are a success for Scomo I have a bridge for sale, great views.
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Hawke is a Sydney Uni Regiment old boy, Troop Commander in 1/15 RNSWL. Wow the NSW party is an incestuous lot, wasn’t Reynolds another Army Reserve type from the same flock?
Nope. Females have only been allowed into the Armoured Corps within the last 2-3 years.
Reynolds was something else, and quickly catapulted into HQ and staff officer positoons, before becoming a politician.
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Remind me, just who do you think controls the world’s central and reserve banks again, dollar-discount Bird?
Ah, well, Rex, funny you should mention that.
Faulty over at the Furniture Store reckons The Powers That Be are going to crash the banking system for a day, during which time Parliament will pass the We Want Your Cash Bill.
Next day, your deposits will be used to pay down bank debt, government deficits and top up the WEF Christmas Club.
Cash payments will be outlawed.
You heard it here first.
Unless you read the Furniture Store.
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Faulty over at the Furniture Store reckons The Powers That Be are going to crash the banking system for a day, during which time Parliament will pass the We Want Your Cash Bill.
I read that, in a fit of idleness and a quiet hope of observing another Bird-strike (he’s back, by the way. Under ‘Josey Wales.’ And Struth now nukes him on sight).
Struth, to his eternal credit, felt that pronouncement was too nuffy for him to agree with.
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Boambee Johnsays:
January 15, 2022 at 5:14 pm
callisays:
January 15, 2022 at 5:08 pm
Yes Speedbox. Reagan threatened to glass them and they believed him.
To quote an American I worked with at the time, “Turn Teheran into a glazed parking lot”.Yes. I heard similar sentiments. The US negotiators were nominally Carter officials but the Reagan Presidential Transition Team inserted themselves into the negotiation process. I was told that the language used by the Reagan team was ‘less than diplomatic’ but nobody could have been under any illusions that they were serious and spoke with the authority of the incoming President. Whether Reagan would have glassed Tehran and Qom is obviously unknowable (and I doubt he would have) but even so, conventional weapons would have caused a hell of a mess.
Imagine – this was almost exactly 51 years ago.
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The thing about negative efficacy and COVID vaxxes is that the UKHSA figures show that vaxxed are back to twice the rate of infection (or thereabouts) vs unvaxxed across all age groups 18 and above. Vaxxed do better on the death rate but that is only meaningfully the case for 60 and above. It literally makes almost no difference to 40 and under because hardly anyone dies from COVID in those age groups.
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