Of course they are not in houso estates, they prefer to own their residences.
Open Thread – Weekend 26 Mar 2022
During the last couple of elections Libs how-to-vote leaflets were handed out by Indians so my guess is they have…
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Dr Dolittle and Gerald Durrell were staple reading for me as a kid. Might’ve made an impression. 😀
DrBeauGan May 2, 2024 1:23 pm Cohenite, I draw to your attention The Eve of St. Agnes, by Keats. I…
Paradoxically, it also under-reports for various reasons, including the difficult to navigate website and pressure for potential reporters not to stray from the narrative.
I wouldn’t be betting my house on data from VAERS.
I think even the heavy handed Russians don’t want to be seen to destroy a city like Kiev.
How many murderers do you know, voluntarily, register their murders with a government department?
You’re an idiot.
Those bloody young people and those strokes they keep having.
Russians levelling cities as they go.
The US never did that in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Don’t care if there’s a few Nazi nut jobs amongst the defenders, fuck that and the Russians for that matter.
Shame on you dicks who are pumping Putin’s tyres.
The government admit it. Don’t blame me.
Farmer Gez:
He’s probably scoffing Ivermectin/Zinc/Etc like a nine year old getting into the Jaffas at the movies.
Stuth
Gateway pundit is the equivalent of a fright site on the right. It tries to attract.. let’s say nicely… the more mentally feeble of us. Please stay away and if necessary just post their link at the furniture store.
Pommie records have been more reliable than most.
Flyinduk:
Because we are commoners and don’t have the necessary cultural viewpoint to do justice to the artists endeavours.
(That’s right isn’t it?)
Good for you Calli.
‘Rosie hates Russian Christians’ is mendacious trolling.
How you get that from ‘the evidence is very few Russians are practising Christians and therefore portraying Russia as some sort of Holy Orthodox Empire appears to be hyperbolic’ I do not know.
Zipster says:
March 28, 2022 at 11:35 am
politicians are all psychopaths
Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., argues the ‘likeliest thing you are going to see’ from Russian President Vladimir Putin is trying to use chemical or biological weapons ‘in a way that makes it look like someone else did it.’
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This is just what Gonzalo Lira & others have warned the US/Western Oligarchs are going to do.
The need to sell the lie to the world that, “the Russians are losing & can’t win“, is to be able to convince the world that, “Putin did it“, when the US/Western Oligarchs commit their planned war crime of gross mass slaughter of civilians to justify ramping it up to a full blown World War.
It makes no sense for Russia to use Bioweapon if they’re so convincingly winning their objectives, so the Western Filth have been selling the, ‘Russia can’t win‘ Lie from the get go because they’ve wanted to blow up Ukraine (& all the evidence it holds against them), since they realized just how many people of global power & influence have tapped into all that evidence against them.
Do the grown-ups in your household know you’re using the computer?
I made this for a Truck. It’s for Emergencies.
The schisms within the US will not be bridged easily or any time soon, and look to me to be as intractable as they were in the years prior to the civil war. However, the split back then was simpler and able to be brutally cauterised by means of a civil war. I can’t see how a civil war solves what we see today. It isn’t clear to me who would be fighting whom, what they would be fighting for, where and how they’d be fighting and what victory/resolution would look like.
Head Prefect I see you are still shitting your pants over having the jab.
Seems a lot of the jabbed are still very angry even to the point of knowing the media lied to them for years & especially the last 2 years now believe the media is telling them the truth about Ukraine…sad.
Banana insults incoming!!!
Drills,
You behave like a criminal. You’re dishonest like a criminal and associate with questionable people. Have you been in jail and what were innocently incarcerated for? Tell us as you’re among friends here.
You’ve picked your banana quota today, Ted?
I thought VAERS reporting was compulsory for medical professionals in the US because of the emergency use status of the various covid vaccines.
I’m not sure how reporting all events within x number of days after a vaccination could be construed as a narrative to stray from.
Australia has sent a lazy $70 mil to these pricks while simultaneously spending another $40 to prosecute our diggers for war crimes. Talk about losing your moral compass.
Weird people on here have convinced themselves that:
1. The Russians don’t want Kiev, but could easily have it if they wanted it. That massive logistics traffic jam we watched for weeks was just for show or some shit like that.
2. The Russians are ultra cautious not to hurt civilians.
3. The Ukrainians have bombed and destroyed Mariupol themselves while using civilians as hostages to stop the Russians from bombing their own positions.
4. Ukrainians are torturing and killing their own civilians en masse.
5. Russia is an awesome war machine.
6. Ukraine would be kaput except for their dastardly dirty tactics that the brave Russians are fighting heroically to overcome.
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It’s shit. Whatever you are reading or watching, stop. It’s of no more value that the mainstream TV dreck. You’re like the mirror image of CNN. Full of emotion, hype and bullshit.
I have a feeling the Afghans and Iraqis might disagree with you a bit there. And I don’t see a lot (ie. any) evidence of Russians levelling Ukrainian cities.
It’s called strategic empathy. The West has been up to all kinds of fuckery in and around Russia since the collapse of the USSR. I don’t blame the Russians for not trusting NATO or the US, because they’ve proven to be full of shit from my perspective, let alone from a Russian perspective. I sure as hell wouldn’t want NATO on my doorstep if I were Putin. This doesn’t mean I love Putin, worship Russia, despise Ukraine etc. If I were Ukrainian, I’d likely be angry as hell at the Russians but also at NATO and the US for making me a bunch of promises and then leaving my country high and dry when I look for these promises to be kept.
If anyone here can decipher srr’s code, please let us know.
Meanwhile, ‘little Marco’ as Trump correctly called him during the primaries, has been furiously seeking relevance and a public profile ever since Trump squashed him like the bug he is.
“Zipster says:
March 28, 2022 at 12:01 pm
On the other is an aging childless dictator running a dying superpower
Putin has daughters”
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Unlike Victoria Nuland and too very bloody many of the EU/UN Mobsters slaving away at criminalising Christianity around the world.
OCO, I don’t think it’s fair to tar the US like that. That’s because when you have evidence of some shit awful thing occurring the US is responsible for, you really have to ask what political party caused the problem. 110% of the time it’s the demonic side of US politics.
Head Prefect you are so predictable, any stock tips?
Your comment suggests you’re informed by sources who share the CNN perspective of the conflict, so you may as well be getting your news from CNN. Same outcome.
Yea, Lehman Bros. Buy as much as you can.
March 2022: Lack of Food! China’s 5th wave of outbreak arrives/People are in crisis on all fronts
This is a common sight for many Chinese people these days, a cordoned-off area. It’s a symbol of the Chinese Communist Party or CCP’s Covid zero policy, so strict, ruthless, and reckless.
They certainly removed entire suburbs in Baghdad, right down to the dirt, to take away cover around the green zone. I saw that personally.
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I’m watching a lot of Indian channels, because India is pretty neutral and they had a lot of correspondents on the ground.
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyeyoqwXm5o
Also Funker350 because it’s run by veterans who know what they are looking at:
https://funker530.com/
And data from this page because they only compile data for which there is photographic confirmation.
I haven’t watched free to air TV in a decade. Or CNN or anything like it.
I don’t care who has the moral highground in this war. There probably isn’t one.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
Duk
That’s not a city and Baghdad is largely intact- give or take damage from a suicide bomber here and there.
Top Ender, how did the train trip go?
I did it the other direction a few years ago, and while the food was ordinary, the red wine was surprisingly good. So much so that … another time. 🙂
Anyway, what I noticed was how slow the train went most of the time, whether because of bends and curves, or poorly maintained tracks, or whatever. From memory, it was five hours from Sydney to Canberra, and you can drive it in four.
Given what a PITA air travel is these days, with long advanced check-ins, security queues, rude/indifferent staff and much the same at the other end, I would have thought that Canberra/Sydney would be a moneymaking opportunity for the trains. By air, you arrive at Mascot, where nobody wants to be, and have to start travelling all over again.
My trainfare was more than the airfare, and even with all the air inconveniences it took a couple of hours longer than flying.
But hey – NSW Railways – a mess for many years. Unions, and braindead management (sides of the coin). Every now and then they hire a whizzkid, with predictable results.
Also this guy, but aware that he is pro-Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM-eRxEc_TutiPIbOS1YYbw
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But has good maps.
Head Prefect, the media has lied to us for decades & still you go along with whatever they tell you, is it because you have had their poison jab & hope this time they are not lying?
You know as well as most the uniparty in America has been using Ukraine as a money laundering house for years, to deny this is a delusion to yourself.
The Ukraine government & the uniparty (probably some politicians here too)is pooping their pants at any revelations that Putin may reveal.
I really hope Putin has the evidence & shows it to the world.
Happy bananas to you.
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Certainly if he starts spouting off about Russian atrocities the way the sites you are watching do over alleging Ukrainian atrocities, I’m not sitting there like a vege soaking it up uncritically.
JC says: March 28, 2022 at 3:45 pm
It would be inhuman to not be sympathetic to the plight of blokes who are lined up, then one-by-one carelessly shot in the leg.
However, their plight was not the point. You are deflecting.
You failed to address the substantive point.
Which is:
Even the lowest IQ Ukrainian thug would know what they’re doing is wrong, super wrong, to prisoners who’ve been disarmed and transported to the rear – yet they’re unconcerned about someone making a video of the entire thing (the video file does go on for some minutes).
Why would someone on the receiving end of the shit awful thing occurring that the US is responsible for care about which US political party is running the show? It’s not as though they get to vote the fuckers out. Besides, the GOP isn’t much better. Look at all those warhawk GOP senators. And the rest of them don’t give a shit as long as they keep making bank. The problem isn’t a partisan one. It’s the US permanent bureaucracy that seeks to return the US to the strategic position it held circa 1946, and it’s willing to do all kinds of shit to get there. Trouble is that getting there is an impossible task, but they don’t seem to realise this obvious reality, and they’re willing to bleed the US white in this grand folly of theirs.
Removing the cancer that is the permanent bureaucracy, the parallel state, the state-within-a-state, the Military Industrial Complex, the interagency, the Deep State – whatever you want to call it – from the US body politic is not impossible, but it isn’t a simple matter, either. And both party establishments are part incentivised, part coerced to protect it.
There is a difference between the Dems and the GOP – the Democrat establishment is deeply entrenched and has no credible opposition, whilst there is a genuine insurgency threatening the GOP establishment that, if it succeeds in taking over the party, would have a much freer hand to dismantle the deep state. However, it has a long way to go. But there is hope.
Bluey:
Let’s hope it doesn’t come to Pinochet’s One Way Helicopter Rides.
But if it does – and remember that Pinochet was the response to years of Leftist sabotage of the Chilean economy and society. Just like what is happening in the West today, with continued support from both Russia and China.
So yes – if Russia and China are getting hurt because of the blowback from their policies over the last 50 years, I don’t really care. Both of these countries pissed a lot of goodwill and support from the Democracies when they needed help against invaders.
They’ve worked hard to get into the position they find themselves – I hope they remember who is to blame.
Ted
The media may have lied to us in the past or not, however, you’re hardly the mammal we’re expecting to help us figure it out. Shut up and go pick bananas.
Arky.
Our moral equivalence Moscow section are losing the the battle as more video comes in of the effects of imprecise artillery on hold out Ukrainian cities.
They’re getting angry because the facts are smacking their narrative in the face like Will Smith on Chris Rock at the Oscars.
That’s were our Putin Players belong.
Apropos of nothing, those interested in a 1975 British thriller (8 episodes) which was never shown here might like this.
The Hanged Man. My link is to a later episode, fish around for number 1.
The former has nothing to do with the latter. Even if the invasion had no moral or practical justification, the conduct of the Ukrainians here is a war crime.
As a matter of prudence, probably shouldn’t have invaded. Pressed more on the Minsk protocols. Maybe had more limited aims re Donbas. And so on. The thing is I’m not privy to the sort of considerations and information that the Russians had available to them. It may simply be that they thought that the avenues available to them short of war, having yielded very little since 2015, and given the disposition of the US, would be of little success. Faced with that, they either live with Ukraine as a de facto NATO partner on their border, or force the issue themselves.
Real Estate porn
Cronkite, I picked this up from a piece in the Oz about some dude named Pappas who is having his possessions liquidated. No idea who he is except his name shows up in the Oz and AFR fr0m time to time.
The liquidators are selling this below. You know, it looks like fun to own a building on top of a jetty.
How much?
https://www.belleproperty.com/listings/1186114/5-bulkara-street-wagstaffe-nsw-2257/
Really? So if there was no invasion, it would still have occurred?
I’ve been told the standard response to all the videos of War Crimes being committed by Ukrainians has been –
“You can’t commit War Crimes against War Criminals.”
Doesn’t bode well for any of us should the US/EU/UN Oligarchs (who’ve long used the Ukraine as their personal Blood Money Laundry), manage to kick this off into WW3 proper.
I thought someone earlier said they had stepped on it and taken it out of its misery.
Winston Johnson is right!
Also, how dare he speak Hard Truths on this blog?!
Also, let me be the first to smash my ale mug against the ground and raucously call for ANOTHER!!! [Hard truths. And more ale]…
In the midst of all the Russia/Ukraine talk, a flood story.
A friend has just come back from the Lismore cleanup. Daughter lost everything, but the house is still liveable. The stench was horrific from the mud and putrefying carcasses, including some poor mutts who were caught in the torrent. They retrieved the collars and rang the owners…a sad task. And instead of throwing the poor things on the heap, they buried them in the sucking swill called the back garden.
Then…the daughter discovered a lurking little cat, half starved with an injured foot. After three days of effort she finally coaxed it into a cage and off to the vet for foot repairs.
The cat was chipped. Turned out the owner, miles upstream, was an 80 year old man, lost his wife a week before the deluge, then lost everything in the flood. Except the cat, which is now a lifesaver and comfort for the poor man.
Dover, the western governments have pushed the Russians to this ever since the collapse of the USSR collapse, NATO was of no use after that but still they pushed.
After all the wars the USA has pushed for years & I don’t trust them any more, if that pisses people off I don’t care.
When the USSR collapsed the West had a great opportunity to align with the Russian people but governments decided against it, maybe the international bankers were against it? (That will get me a kicking from the soros lovers here).
It bears repeating – again & again, until people stop blowing cover smoke for Our Enemies Within –
“Makka says:
March 28, 2022 at 3:00 pm
[…]
My main point is this about the Russia/ Ukraine conflict. The 24/7 super tanker loads of propaganda being spewed from ‘the west’ is disgusting and insulting. What the western powers have accomplished in and with Ukraine clearly and precisely demonstrate to us who our immediate and ruthless enemies really are. OUR enemies, the peoples enemies. Enemies who will ruin our lives and livelihoods , threaten and bully us if we fail to tow the line.
It is not Putin and it’s not Russia.”
Runnybum says:
March 28, 2022 at 5:00 pm
Dover, the western governments have pushed the Russians to this ever since the collapse of the USSR collapse,
By Russians you mean a sawn off, beady eyed little dictator for life and not the general public through elected representatives I take it.
Fletcher can huff and puff, but the legislation ensures that there is nothing he can do about TheirABC or the Arts Council. Labor set them up so that only legislative change through the House and the Senate can change things.
And with TheirABC, a big chunk of Coalition MPs wouldn’t touch a hair on its head.
By whom?
You disturb me, SRR. You and your Nuffy mates are far too excited by this. I miss the days of folks like you humourlessly raging about being lightly needled for your off-the-wall pronouncements about the world and your unconventional taste in hats.
Now, you lot are more aroused by the prospect of your End of Days and Holy Wars than even Vlad Bae and Sniffy Joe’s handlers…
#StopIt
#You’llGoBlind
Ya lost me with that one gez?
Your Protocols are showing, Runnybum…
Westpac fraud case.
Ted
You’re actually quite amusing if in a very simplistic and predictable way.
You say something stupid, or you’re also perhaps slightly aware that others will see it as stupid and likely comment how stupid it is.
You then try to make a half-arsed prediction that someone will find your comment to be asinine. Also, you know that I am going to comment about something directed to me (by you) and I will always make reference to your vocation, which is banana picking. You’re not making any prediction, you tool. Go pick some bananas.
Okay, what line of business was the dude in?
That’s $10 million covered, of the revenue shortfall caused by cutting petrol excise.
Farmer Gez, are you saying that is OK for Ukraine forces to kill eastern people of Russian heritage for 8 years?
I didn’t say that.
Gez
Can I answer for you?
Thanks
Ted, go stack the bananas.
Head Prefect at 5.09, that made a real lot of sense.
I am a bit reluctant to tell you but your brain is a bit fucked, maybe it’s the jab?
Runnybum says:
March 28, 2022 at 5:08 pm
Ya lost me with that one gez?
How have Russians been pushed by the West or NATO?
What possible danger to life, limb or prosperity was imminent?
Most Eastern European counties have prospered by leaving behind the suffocating hug of Russian hegemony.
According to ABC, equipment leasing.
Gateway pundit is the equivalent of a fright site on the right. It tries to attract.. let’s say nicely… the more mentally feeble of us.
GP, Breitbart, Epoch, Gatestone Institute, Geller Report and any other media outlet which praises Trump are the backbone of the West and should be supported by any citizen of sound mind, firm hips and a pure heart.
rosie, lying is a sin.
Not only a sin, but this lying that you constantly do about me, bearing false witness, is also breaking one of The Commandments of our Creator, Sustainer & Saviour, Christ Jesus, God.
Of course you yet again don’t name me in Your reply, Your Witness Against Me, like some heretic who delights in mocking God with legalism (which actually compounds the sin), but we can all see what you’re doing.
No matter how hard you try to obfuscate with completely irrelevant percentages that you brought into the argument in order to better justify you spreading of hatred towards Russians, you just can’t stop attacking me with twisted tales & bald faced lies.
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rosie
March 28, 2022 at 3:05 pm
Once again with the fact free abuse.
There is no doubt, as there is in France, which has also seen murderous repression of Christianity, a committed core of Christians but the evidence is the regular practitioners number between 2 and 10 percent of the population.
People can obfuscate all they like but the information is available for anyone and from sources with somewhat less bias than the person who six years ago was claiming Trump was the second coming.
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Now, are you going to tell us who you state, “six years ago was claiming Trump was the second coming”?
Because every honest soul knows it was NOT me, but there are few amongst the mob of narrative controllers here who haven’t also tried to nail that BS to my name.
I only picked Trump as a hard man long prepared to do a hard job.
A job he & others he prepared with are not yet done doing.
srr, check your email.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/just-latest-uk-data-shows-covid-infection-rate-among-triple-jabbed-boosted-higher-rising-faster-unvaccinated-across-almost-every-age-group-proving-vax-passports-effecti/
calli, thanks for that story.
Politicians and media seem to have moved on, while thousands of people are homeless or have homes they can’t inhabit due to the floods.
What’s more, it’s feeding into the unstable and rising real estate market in NSW and adjacent.
There are still people who lost their homes in the bushfires a couple of years ago who have finally got their insurance payouts, or who have been trying to rebuild but can’t because of COVID supply chain issues. They have been living in tents and caravans and SUVs and cadging off relatives and friends. Not of interest.
Meanwhile, politicians have been announcing new *bright* and *shiny* projects as elections loom.
Arseholes.
You are sick but in a funny not say way, cohenite.
Yea I totally agree, Cronkers.
Runnybum says:
March 28, 2022 at 5:12 pm
Farmer Gez, are you saying that is OK for Ukraine forces to kill eastern people of Russian heritage for 8 years?
You use political and diplomatic pressure and build support for any action by presenting the facts and suffering occurring because of Ukrainian actions.
Not that the Russians weren’t actively fomenting and arming separatists there were they?
Will Smith is a pussy. (just like Dumb Cunt).
This is how Ozzies roll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrZerquOC30
Russell Brand
We Should Be Very Worried About This
Meta offering digital tools to schools. Russell Brand is amplifying what Gonzalo Lira said yesterday, namely that schools (and universities) are a training ground for conformity and obedience.
Daily Mail has article about why people not lining up to get the booster. Below is quote from General Frewen.
‘Some people have had Covid. Some people are just a bit over the whole Covid thing.
‘What we know, from the medical advice, is the booster will reduce the severity of Covid if you get it and it will help avoid the effects of long Covid.
‘So it’s really important. It’s never been easier to get the vaccines than now.’
Much has been claimed about what the vaccines will do. Remember when it was going to prevent you from catching and spreading the virus. Then more recently we have had the admissions that they did not know they were going to wane. If they could not test for waning due to short development time then how could they know it would help avoid the effects of long covid. Especially as the first three jabs were created before Delta.
I think Frewen has made up another benefit that is simply not true and could not have been tested for. It would be good if a journalist asked which medical advice he is referring to but we know that is not going to happen.
Razey says:
March 28, 2022 at 5:29 pm
Will Smith is a pussy.
Fair bet that Big Will wouldn’t have handed out a slap to The Rock if he’d cracked that gag.
Then shortly after Stuth claims it does;
German woman reminds us, “the welfare of humanity has always been the alibi of tyrants” , and more.
That’s me out of contention then, on all three counts.
Ha ha JC.
Good get.
I must admit I have been out all arvo pressure washing my windows, but that one had me scratching my head.
Apparently it went from ‘needing pictorial evidence to be believed’ before lunch, to ‘I’ve heard that story around the traps’ after lunch.
The other interesting thing is that the subject of sub-continental drivers has been a recurring theme here, with St Ruth vigourously prosecuting the “Against” case.
Not once has the “well known” tale of the Kenworth Long-Drop mobile bog ever been raised.
Not once.
Until someone threw it in the mix this morning, and a few (including myself) called bullshit on it*, at which point St Ruth recounted the truthiness of it.
Followed by Sal.
FMD.
More recovered memories here than a St Alipius Ballarat Primary school reunion.
IF Ukrainians are shooting prisoners in the leg, that is a crime.
I hope crimes on both sides, and there will be crimes on both sides, are investigated and prosecuted after the war and pricks get hanged.
Given the politics of it, I doubt this will occur.
Which leaves reporting of alleged crimes during the heat of the war as what they are: grist to the propaganda mills, which are currently in overdrive.
Errol Flynn would have revelled in Big Will trying that.
JC says: March 28, 2022 at 3:45 pm
It would be helpful were you to link to very disturbing video of how BRS acted toward prisoners.
(Thank you in advance)
Driller
You behave here like a criminal. I’m happy for you to look for the vid the ABC presented on Four Corners but you first have to tell us why you received jail time.
Go!
When the lights go out after Liddell and Eraring are closed and hordes of gerbel warming-brainwashed, Lord of the Flies kidlets are running lunatic through the streets BRS is the one I want to have standing by my side.
Jeez
It appears to have better human instincts than Homer P.
I’ve a feeling Dunning Krugman’s mouth has once again outdone the brain (not a difficult task) in claiming there’s video of BRS monstering prisoners.
Either way, despite verbal representations made by the Homes & Gardens writer, I forecast there will not be a presentation of such video.
Just call me Nostradamus.
I forecast you won’t tell us why you were in jail, you criminal fuckhead.
JC, have you actually bothered to look at any of his links? This one, for instance?
Fully Vaccinated Australians may be developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome after latest Gov. figures reveal they are 10 times more likely to be infected with Omicron than the Unvaccinated
The Regime really has contempt for us:
“johannasays:
March 28, 2022 at 3:38 pm
Very good comment Johanna.
“2. Electoral and other types of corruption are a feature, not a bug. Read some history, FGS.””
Correct. An example, Richard Nixon probably won the 1960 election…it took crooked Old Joe Kennedy’s crooked mate in Chicago, Mayor Daley, to fix the election for Kennedy in Chicago which contributed to Kennedy’ win in Illinois….by a narrow few thousand votes and thus he became POTUS.
I would add though that it’s the Democrat Party, more than the GOP, that has a long history of ballot fraud.
I would add though, that
And yes, we can see the criminal in action above.
a few hours later courageously getting in line after Stuth told him to.
LOl.
Worked out well for him.
Be careful what you cheat for.
“I want to make it clear to everyone, both in our country and abroad, to our partners, that it’s not even about the line that we don’t want anyone to cross. The fact is that we have nowhere to retreat. They have pinned us against a line from which, sorry for the bad manners, we have nowhere to retreat,” President Vladimir Putin – December 2021, almost two months before he ordered the assault on Ukraine.
At the time, Moscow was trying to come to an agreement with NATO on mutual security, hoping that the US-led bloc would agree to provide comprehensive written guarantees that it would not expand any further to the east.
The existence of these red lines – most notably against NATO expansion into Ukraine – is not some subjective concept born in the minds of Russia’s current leadership. It had been discussed in the west for years.
In 1998, George Kennan, American diplomat and historian said NATO expansion would mean nothing less than “the beginning of a new Cold War,” warning that it would be a “tragic mistake.” and “Of course, this will provoke a bad reaction from Russia. And when that happens, [those who made decisions about NATO expansion] will say that we have always told you the Russians are like that. But it’s just not true.”
In 1997, 50 prominent foreign policy experts, including former senators, military leaders, and diplomats, sent an open letter to then-President Bill Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion. “It is a policy error of historic proportions”.
Conservative political commentator Pat Buchanan wrote in his 1999 book ‘A Republic, Not an Empire’, “By moving NATO onto Russia’s front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation.”
The current director of the CIA, William Burns, said in 2008 that for Russia, “Ukraine’s accession to NATO is the brightest of all red lines. I have not yet found anyone who would consider Ukraine in NATO as something other than a direct challenge to Russia’s interests.”
Just so everyone is clear that a serious Russian response including invasion was anticipated, foretold, expected, envisaged, predicted and presumed if NATO’s push east continued.
Yea, I have. They’re all dump sites for conspiracy theories.
It’s a symbol of the Chinese Communist Party or CCP’s Covid zero policy, so strict, ruthless, and reckless.
Just wait until winter comes to Victoria and The Bat Eared Mong gets back into the swing of things……
No link yet to video of BRS monstering some prisoners.
Dearie me – it’s as if Dunning Krugman… doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
How embarrasment for him.
From Quadrant:
<a href="
“> Ne ver’ Ne boisya Ne prosy — Don’t trust. Don’t fear. Don’t beg.
I think I’ve stuffed up the link but have to post it to see what’s in it.
close enuff.
Paul Fletcher is the most useless Communications Minister in history, worse than Stephen Conroy and worse than Turdbull.
He’s a supine dolt. Always missing in action…nothing to say about the ABC’s hit jobs on Porter and Tudge. Quite frankly he’s a disgrace.
Here it is drillsie.
Everything about Driller says criminal.
It was occurring in the Donbass for 8 years before the invasion.
Worse things than that.
Hence Slomo selected him for the role.
He’s just what Slomo wants there, somebody who won’t scare the horses. (the Greens voting horses, the ones the youthful Liberal party staffers tell him need to be placated)
Net Zero site:
Multiple stories of the current energy crisis and the Ukraine invasion.
Links to original stories – Printer Friendly copies at the end.
JC, your above does not even make sense. RUOK?
Yes, quite easily. Gonzola Lira streamed a 3 part presentation yesterday, linked here more than once, in which he said he expects a false flag event by the alphabet agencies, blamed on Russia of course. This is based on his perception of the propaganda around Russia losing, which he believes is not the case and that they are achieving their aims, but which is necessary background for blaming Russia. He also mentioned Biden’s comment in Poland to American troops that they would soon see for themselves how beautiful Ukranian women were, or words to that effect. What do you think that might have meant?
lordie, you’re a dishonest, lying piece of shit, Drills. You’re just a low down dirty little criminal.
Just a guess:
It’s time for a Triple G&T?
http://click1.e.westernjournalism.com/ViewMessage.do
Perhaps it’s time for white police officers to resign en masse from their respective police forces.
An old timer reminiscing about the 1940’s out West in NSW during heat waves told me that he and his family used to hang wet white sheets over doorways and on verandahs in order to get the cooling effect of catching any wind and turning it marginally less hot indoors or in the verandah sleepout. They also used to sleep under wet white sheets and his wife used to drape herself in them when she went to the outdoor dunny. All part now of ‘Klan’ mythology in the eyes of those seeking to be victims.
Either the man experiencing this as the Klan and its Wizardry was living in a wash house or people were using sheets as air conditioners simply in accord with local custom.
Does anyone believe the tax will fall on Billionaires or the middle class as it is ‘amended’ through the legislative process?
And that it won’t arrive in Australia in the next couple of years?
Quite a civilised way to travel but only doing about 80 kph – shinkansen it’s not.
Canberra to Goulburn via Tarago!
It has always been slow due to the state of the railway. At Goulburn things speed up since you join the main line there.
No. Can’t see how that figures, JC. Not by Dover’s guidelines anyway.
Salvadore may be OK with ritual abuse, as long as it is ritual, but he’s done nothing criminal that I can see. Of course, I’ve been away all arvo and who know what went on then. 🙂
Turtlehead
Stop the manic drama queening. Go take a relaxant, FFS.
Actually, this is something that has puzzled me for a while. It seems to be a paradox. They’re trying to create a digital dictatorship but what is “digital” without electricity?
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A tax on billionaires has been Greens policy for some time.
I’ve done it again.
Perfect rib eye sizzling and charred on the outside with pink tenderness within.
Genius at work.
Liz
I didn’t suggest he’s done anything criminal on the site (yet). As I explained, his character and behavior suggests he is a criminal.
“We hope and pray that this war – shameful for all of us, for all of humanity – will end as soon as possible: it is unacceptable; each additional day adds more death and destruction.” Pope Francis used the strong language to denounce the Russian invasion of Ukraine on Saturday when he received in the Vatican some 700 volunteers of the Italian Radio Transceivers’ Federation Citizens’ Band.”
Pope Francis on Ukraine
Rugby matches in NZ in the seventies were well attended.
A man likes to drink at the game and sometimes to excess. In this situation you don’t want to go to the toilet and lose an advantageous position on the terraces.
The elegant solution was to cut a bicycle tube and run it down the inside of the trouser leg.
Truck drivers take note.
Daily Mail – Russian Defence Minister is handing out medals to “the smashed porcelain” in a Russian Military hospital.
Which, in my mind, raises this question – if Putin falls short of his goals in Ukraine, as seems increasingly probable, does that make him more or less dangerous?
Why didn’t they just move to Vaucluse Lizzie?
Understand what Hastie did. He heard rumours about BRS and went to the press with them because he wanted BRS prosecuted by the press. This while Brereton’s stupid enquiry was ongoing.
That is right up there with Sengelman hiring a feminist academic to report on the culture of special force units as the most egregious act by an officer or ex-officer in the last half century. Just fucking disgraceful.
So according to the Dishonorable Hastie, A., MP. the highly honorable and balanced mainstream media is now a de facto war crimes investigation tribunal. Really?
This man is an utter menace to our Parliament. Despicable is too soft a word to describe his behaviour. An utterly vile individual.
That’s not far from what I was thinking jupes.
Snap, jupes!
if Putin falls short of his goals in Ukraine, as seems increasingly probable, does that make him more or less dangerous?
Dangerous to whom?
His wife’s annoying pomeranian?
The Postman?
Some flamer who asks him to wear a mask?
Net Worth
Atlassian results
2018/. $119 million loss
2019/. $638 million loss
2020/. $ 351 million loss
2021/. $ 531 million loss
I don’t believe the firm has ever made a profit.
Albosleezy says Solomon Islands “take over” of Chinese is not that important, climate change is more important:
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/australia/prime-minister-denies-dropping-the-ball-on-solomon-islands-c-6234937
Take a wild guess, Ed.
The safety and security of your mutton and gypsum stashes…
Take a wild guess, Ed.
Okay Roger.
Putes will give that lazy Postie the dressing down of his life if his zany plan to rule the World doesn’t pan out?
Haha, Lizzie, considering the source it is coming from, it does not carry any weight.
It is extremely unlikely that anybody would expect manners from JC.
He knows bluddee well he’s sprouting complete hogwash.
As does everybody else here.
(That’s a polite way of saying he’s a dickhead & everybody here knows it)
To think I once liked and respected Andrew Hastie…..now I think he’s a despicable turd.
“Albosleezy says Solomon Islands “take over” of Chinese is not that important, climate change is more important:”
The oink from Grayndler has nothing else.
Okay Roger, let’s get serious.
Yeah, should the Putes fall short of his Napoleonic Dream to become Tsar of Belgravia, all left handed persons ought to avoid Novichok laced doorhandles.
Go play with your marbles, son.
The adults are talking.
“An utterly vile individual.”
yep.
An officer whiteants the fighting men to advance his own career.
Gee, never seen that before.
In his own words, he did it by spreading unsubstantiated gossip. This would be breaking new ground for lowdown conduct.
Perhaps this is the ethos Duntroon teaches?
It is extremely unlikely that anybody would expect manners from JC.
He knows bluddee well he’s sprouting complete hogwash.
As does everybody else here.
Include me out on that, pard.
I happen to think that JC is barking up the right tree when dealing with you.
I used to look up to men like that….
JC, where does he get his money from?
He certainly seems to be hiding his “I fight Tories” light under a bushel atm.
Sorry to belabor the point, but I’m getting that strong feeling of Deja vu again. This response is identical to what I encountered when I first started looking into global warming years ago. Somehow, every critical site was unreliable and every questioning person was somehow compromised and discounted. Up to and including the previously acknowledged greatest expert in meteorology, Professor Richard Lindzen. It took me a while to realise that it wasn’t the person, it was whether the opinion conformed with the narrative.
Always give your enemy a line of retreat.
Okay Roger, let’s get down to TinTacks.
If The Putler doesn’t get to emulate his childhood hero, Ming The Merciless, and rule the World with a rod of iron, I predict he will pursue a second career as a pompous, humourless windbag commenting on blogs.
Let’s hope Anthony Blinken has read Sun Tsu.
I’m reasonably sure Victoria Nuland hasn’t.
It’s bad manners to always be talking about one’s self, Ed.
Come on, bring a bit of value to the blog to justify dover keeping you here.
Hre you go JC, your next car and most of the time you don’t even need to charge it. Up to 1000 MILES range.
https://aptera.us/
Looks cute too.
I’d actually think about buying one of those.
I caught the bus home tonight and my neighbour who lives upstairs, the Green voting Covid hysteric who also happens to be the world’s most boring person, hopped on, sat down and started talking to me. I tried to say little because I really don’t like her. She rattled on about Covid and travel. She said she wants to go to the UK but she’s scared about Ukraine. I asked why? She said she might reconsider it Putin is assassinated. I thought WTF! And then my voice rose and I said….”Are you fucking kidding me. Firstly, that’ll just inflame the situation and secondly, given my knowledge of Russian history, which I’m pretty sure is more extensive than your knowledge, someone worse than Putin will come along. What a stupid thing to say”.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what people are thinking, and they get this uninformed drivel from the MSM.
Government must be banned from the new bureaucrat play school game of producing and imposing apps on the population.
There is now an app produced by Border Farce which has to be filled in if you are returning to Oz.
It contains more rules than rugby union. The usual “great grandmothers maiden name” unnecessary info demands. DOB to be entered at least fifty times.
You have to upload you passport photo page. “Scuze me bureaucratprick you already have my passport photo page”.
There is a time limit before return for commencing filling in the app, just to ensure a maximum fuck around factor.
Couple of questions:
Why isn’t this just another folder on My Gov?
Why must I upload my passport. You already have it and your Pakis at the airport will be scrutinising it in detail if I am a white guy.
The reality is this is designed for foreigners, but the crats are happy to also fuck around Aussies.
My biggest beef is that I can no longer indulge in the futile but satisfying exercise of crossing out ‘Permanent Resident’ and writing ‘CITIZEN”.
I need to calm down and prepare myself for undergoing every security, xray and explosives check as is appropriate for a high risk ancient half crippled white guy.
To think that the general population in the Ukraine have no real idea as to what awaits them, come what may in relation to Russia – the joys of progressivist intentions, and not just US bio labs, foisted upon them from on high.
Kimberley Kitching dead
Kim Carr shunted.
The oink from Grayndler is purging the party of his enemies.
I don’t think he zapped poor Kitching.
She wasn’t a Torrie.
From your description, it sounds to me like she’s a little crazier than the average Aussie, cassie.
“From your description, it sounds to me like she’s a little crazier than the average Aussie, cassie.”
No….crazy people can be interesting and/or amusing, she’s bat shit boring
Understand what Hastie did. He heard rumours about BRS and went to the press with them because he wanted BRS prosecuted by the press. This while Brereton’s stupid enquiry was ongoing.
That is right up there with Sengelman hiring a feminist academic to report on the culture of special force units as the most egregious act by an officer or ex-officer in the last half century. Just fucking disgraceful.
Hastie the back-stabber is member for Canning; let’s hope the sandgropers treat the bastard like they treated the state lieborals.
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Gez, upticks are insufficient for your comments on Putin, you nailed it.
Short of electing Rudd as President, there are no grounds whatsoever for this murdering cnut killing thousands of innocent Ukrainians including the military, who should not have to sacrifice themselves to protect their people from these barbarians.
If people want to attribute blame, try Merkel, the Democrats and the (spits loudly) UN.
Ukrainians don’t want to be under the Russian thumb, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they want to embrace American liberalism in all its moral decadence. And if ordinary Ukrainians repel the Russians I’d suggest they might also want more say in the future of their country. One thing where Ukraine differs from Russia is that it has a functioning civil society that gives ordinary people a voice over against the state and the oligarchs.
sfw
Atlassian has a market cap of about $72 billion. Mostly, his net worth would be tied in with his ownership as the founder of this heap of crap firm.
Most of these people aren’t worth like billions with money in the bank. It’s based on market valuation of the businesses they founded. It’s ‘paper’ money.
Need to move Cassie if you can’t eat, drink, walk or catch the bus without some Karen nearby.
Must be hell for you.
Yea Eyrie, it would be a great mode of transport….. if I lived in Death Valley, but I don’t. Why don’t you buy one as you’re a thoroughly modern Millie?
I’m seriously thinking of pulling the plug and buying the EV merc, but I want the week to think about it.
Cassie never change – coraggio cara, coraggio
Cassie at 6:05.
Bill Clinton often said he wanted to emulate JFK.
He turned out to be out of the Kennedy mould.
And that is not a compliment.
Wake up to yourself.
The Uke Army are massacring their own civilians.
Why?
There’s nothing wrong with being a Flamer.
Ask SpongeBob, he’ll tell you.
Another vax-spruiking triple-jabbed Labor MP has caught the coof
Somebody in a comment earlier alleged that India is neutral re. Ukraine. Maybe the man on the street is but the Indian government is certainly not “neutral”. India is not siding with the West in supporting Ukraine, it refused to support the West’s UN motion condemning Russia over the invasion. The Indian government remains very close to Russia, it has a long relationship with Russia going back to the 1950s, it buys Russian wheat and arms. Also, given the current decrepit US leadership, I doubt that India is going to throw Russia or its relationship with Russia to the wolves.
stuff you learn on youtube
Goanna at 6:42.
Similarly, I remember end of season footy trips by bus from that era.
Large funnel hung off the handrail on the front steps with a length of garden hose attached to the narrow end and squeezed through the rubber weather-seal in the door.
For dispatching liquid waste on the move.
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No doubt an experienced bus driver will arrive shortly to tell me this can’t possibly be done, or would cause big problems with yada, yada, yada.
JC I just want to clarify something.
Are you saying ABC Four Corners has footage of Ben RS killing a civilian ? If so are you referring to the episode which showed SAS getting out of helicopter and then one of them shooting the Afghan? If not that incident can you tell us which episode ?
Ben RS is about 6ft 4″ and very bulky. Pretty sure he is not the guy in that footage and your suggestion is first I have ever heard of that the shooter might be him.
Strange that you would say this as part of a stoush where you are trying to say somebody else is a liar.
Try to resist saying this is part of a pile on but facts do matter and simply can’t make things up in order to support an argument.
Roger says:
March 28, 2022 at 6:45 pm
Which, in my mind, raises this question – if Putin falls short of his goals in Ukraine, as seems increasingly probable, does that make him more or less dangerous?
Dunno. But, what is his goal? What are Russia’s objectives? The complete subordination of the entire landmass we know as Ukraine? Part of it? Dismissal of the current government? Demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine – as per Putin’s speech? Ukrainian sworn neutrality, accepting the federation of the Donbas and official handback of the Crimea?
I’ve said a couple of times that I thought, having started this thing, that he couldn’t stop at the Dniper River for reasons I explained at the time. Now, I’m not quite so sure. Maybe it is viable. Choke off Ukraine from the Black Sea and secure the Donbas. Force Ukraine to negotiate or we will push Odesa into the sea?
The peace negotiations re-commence in Turkey today (28th) and it appears that Ukraine are ‘accepting’ of the Russian demand of Ukrainian neutrality in return for Russia guaranteeing that the Ukrainian border is 100% secure. In other words, no NATO = we won’t be back.
I think the Crimea is a relatively easy negotiation and Ukraine will be able to extract significant concessions for formally handing it back. But the Donbas is another matter. Part of the problem, IMO, is that the Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) is planning to hold a plebiscite on re-joining Russia notwithstanding that Russia recognised it as an independent federation. Therefore, if that went ahead and they formally re-joined Russia, that obviously means that they are formally recognised to have seceded from Ukraine (probably along with the DPR).
And why? Why would they want to join Russia if they are independent federations and why would Russia need them to do so (or even accept them into Russia) especially of the entire Ukraine has adopted neutrality? They could be in free association with Russia and extract Kremlin support. Acceptance of potential secession, in the future, seems like an unnecessarily hard path to negotiate with Ukraine. Of course, this could be just a ruse negotiation point.
Ukrainian sworn neutrality, accepting the federation of the Donbas and official handback of the Crimea could be the objectives. Zelensky is a neutered ‘bit-player’ if those things are achieved. The UK, for example, has already said it will lift the sanctions on Russia when they withdraw from Ukraine and their are commitments of no further aggression. Ukraine neutrality will fix that. Other nations in the EU will promptly follow for their own reasons.
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I said “Pretty neutral”.
As compared to say, Russian sites or CNN, Indian media is “pretty neutral” not the absolute “neutral” you “alleged”.
Learn to read carefully before you comment.
Snerk. 🙂
Capable of backing that generalisation with some proof, Grigory?
IF that is not a video game or layered with CGI a la Ghost of Kyiv, and bearing in mind I don’t care, and also bearing in mind that like everyone else (except the dating coach turned cash-grabber via podcast Mr Lira) is watching this from the other side of the world – I wouldn’t have a problem with it.
IF the Ukes have captured shit tins of Russians, and IF they’re not in a position to take them back to eastern Ukraine en masse because they wouldn’t have anyone left to shoot at Russians, and also considering they’d have to feed and shelter them, and IF they were let go they’d end up at or behind the Russian lines and thrown back into circulation, and IF they were serious – one in the leg would be fine. Books have been written on this, and I for one don’t see a problem with it.
It’s that or one in the head. Are they at war or not?
Dopey is as dopey does. I was busy making a film on the Western plains of NSW, Dopey, at the time of talking to that old geezer, living during the filming in a motel (shades of Johanna, and I don’t diss her for that, it’s sensible sometimes). In that rarified atmosphere such was the excitement and isolation that I ended up having a passionate affair motel-style with the director during the interegnum for husbands. I was an inner-city lefty westie at that time, living nowhere near Vaucluse, and the old geezer telling me about bush aircon wouldn’t have had a bar of Vaucluse had he ever known of it. An old style Labor man, he was very against what he called ‘the money men’.
Is that good enough for you?
ps he broke my heart on our next film together but you win some you lose some – and I wasn’t following Jane Austen’s rules, so it would have been a disaster even if he hadn’t dumped me for his airheaded heroin-toking camera assistant. We still had to work together on the editing, which was cruel.
I am going to follow my own rules here now and only talk economics.
So obviously I won’t say very much at all. 🙂
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Probably.
Ukraine neutrality will fix that.
Ah yes and we could have a get together at Warsaw to sign off on “neutral” countries that Russia approves.
St. Ruth at 3.11, quoting ‘Truth Justice’ and his extrapolated 410,000, (000) deaths on twatter:
It’s the worse* spelling in human history, and particularly so because that statement was apparently designed to be one of the most important in human history.
The statement has as much cred as the crap it was talking about.
*Snicker.
Ben RS is about 6ft 4?
Try 6′ 8″.
It’s still a crime KD.
Crimes can have mitigating circumstances and still be crimes.
“I said “Pretty neutral”.
As compared to say, Russian sites or CNN, Indian media is “pretty neutral” not the absolute “neutral” you “alleged”.
Learn to read carefully before you comment.”
LOL Is that what you did when you censored people because they wrote something you didn’t like?
I stand by what I wrote.
BTW…what are you doing here? I thought you’d departed these shores?
Oh and I may mention cooking. My forte.
We had a very up-to-the minute (25 of them) oven-ready roast Chicken Kyev last night.
From Woolworths. They no longer spell it Chicken Kiev out of popular sentiment which as we know is running strongly in favour of Kyev these days. Woolworths didn’t miss a beat on that.
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Shut up you hag.
“Shut up you hag.”
No, I’m not a hag and you’re not the chief censor here.
Roger, it wasn’t so much that the Ukrainians might want to ‘embrace American liberalism’ but of them having it foisted upon them, especially by way msm channeled corrupt propaganda (propaganda need not be corrupt) and terror tactics, not unlike our own experience.
Fair enough. In which case, we’d better go after the Australian WWII vets who unashamedly shot surrendering Japs out of hand in the Kokoda campaign in 1942/3, and all of the Yanks who shot Germans with their hands up all the way across Europe and on those Pacific islands in 1945.
On the Russians, we’d better hit them up for everything after Stalingrad to Berlin. They slaughtered ten of thousands of Krauts out of hand every month from the end of 1942 on, because the Krauts were doing the exact same thing – plus taking pot shots at the Russian POWs on their way back to the camps in Poland in 1941.
They had no compunction telling anyone who would listen why they were shot straight out. Top Ender’s book on the subject is well researched and a decent read on the subject.
There may well be logistical impossibilities in keeping POWs alive on occasions, particularly if they have form for trying to kill their captors post-surrender.
There may not be either, but in any event I don’t care whether either side kills prisoners or not.
Brett Whines ( Bourne 1788)..
I just checked and it isn’t BRS in the video. I mistakenly thought it was as I was relying on faulty memory. However, even though I got the person in the video wrong, it doesn’t take away the fact that an SAS dude ostensibly killed someone who was supposedly unarmed.
But even so, this isn’t the real point of the argument I was making.
If you had followed the argument closely and objectively,which is obviously beyond you, I was saying that Driller and an a number of others here were relying on an uncontested video about Ukrainians soldiers treating Russian soldiers cruelly. In the same breath these would be the same people standing up for the SAS dudes.
Let’s be clear about this, so you don’t head off at the fork in the road as you normally do. I have zero opinion on the two videos as I’ve learnt to never trust uncontested film footage.