Open Thread – Weekend 26 Mar 2022


Giovannina sitting by the window, Pavel Chistyakov, 1864

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  1. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    book on the subject is well researched and a decent read on the subject

    That is awful grammar. Just awful.

    Lucky it wasn’t a statement alerting the world to the worse coverup in history.

  2. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    I’m not a hag

    ..
    It’s not the issue or the argument with you.
    It’s the person.
    And you still won’t get over an exchange from years ago.
    Even to the extent that in your brain you believe I instigated a pile on. You got so furious at being challenged you didn’t even register that when others began to agree with me I made a point of saying I accepted your explanation.
    No. Not good enough. Miss Alpha is never to be challenged. Ever.
    You are friends with Lizzie and a fav of Mater, two most excellent people I like very much, so I usually just give you a wide berth to avoid the shit.
    Not today. You couldn’t even be bothered to attribute that which you misquoted, because it was me.
    Passive aggressive little git.

  3. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    JCsays:

    March 28, 2022 at 6:51 pm

    Net Worth

    Mike Cannon-Brookes
    $26.2b
    last year:
    $21.99b
    role:
    Co-founder and chief executive, Atlassian

    Atlassian results

    2018/. $119 million loss
    2019/. $638 million loss
    2020/. $ 351 million loss
    2021/. $ 531 million loss

    I don’t believe the firm has ever made a profit.

    OK.
    They have been around for twenty years.
    Listed for seven years.
    That is about 1,000 years in IT “start-up” world.
    And the 2021 loss of $531 mil was on revenue of $2 bill.
    So they would have to jack prices by 25% to break-even, assuming they don’t lose one dollar of top line revenue as a reaction to the price increase.
    Not going to happen.
    They market enabling and linking software for backroom business use, not sexy consumer software.
    They must be at a mature stage after twenty years. Are they going to get to profit through growth? Hard to see it.
    I agree.
    It doesn’t stack up for me.

  4. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Duely noted. Other than that I am not paying to much attention to who is shooting who in Ukraine. I just knew it was not BRS in that footage.

    JCsays:
    March 28, 2022 at 8:22 pm
    I just checked and it isn’t BRS in the video. I mistakenly thought it was as I was relying on faulty memory.

  5. JC Avatar

    Sanchez

    Dickhead Brookes should be focusing more on getting out of the stock before the thing heads to zero instead of worrying about gerbiling and saddling the country with plastic panels and windmills.

  6. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Arkysays:
    March 28, 2022 at 8:28 pm”

    I don’t like you and you don’t like me. I think you’re a nasty, miserable, unlikeable wanker.

    And as for this pearler…“Passive aggressive little git.”

    LOL. Such projection.

  7. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    WASHINGTON, D.C., March 22, 2022 — Following an introduction by Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), Asia Society President and CEO and Asia Society Policy Institute President Kevin Rudd delivers brief remarks on U.S.-China relations before participating in a conversation moderated by ASPI Vice President Wendy Cutler. (1 hr., 11 min.)

  8. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    I don’t like you and you don’t like me. I think you’re a nasty, miserable, unlikeable wanker.</blockquote?.
    ..
    Who still requires an attribution when quoted, and the inclusion of the main qualifier in the quoted sentence.

  9. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Blockquote fuckup.
    You know who said what.

  10. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    JCsays:

    March 28, 2022 at 7:34 pm

    sfw

    Atlassian has a market cap of about $72 billion. Mostly, his net worth would be tied in with his ownership as the founder of this heap of crap firm.

    Most of these people aren’t worth like billions with money in the bank. It’s based on market valuation of the businesses they founded. It’s ‘paper’ money.

    Although he would have some cash outside for houses and toys.
    I assume prior to listing, he and his offsider owned 100% of the company.
    When it listed, they would have collected a good part of the cash flowing from new shareholders (after the float managers clipped the ticket).
    JC.
    Do you know what percentage of the company C-B and his offsider hold now?

  11. JC Avatar

    Bourne1879 says:
    March 28, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    Duely noted. Other than that I am not paying to much attention to who is shooting who in Ukraine. I just knew it was not BRS in that footage.

    Brett, I met up with a military dude at a party on the weekend. We got to talking and I swear, that I think he said there was a video of BRS acting cruelly towards some afghan. Is there actually a video floating around specifically with BRS or does he or I have it wrong?

  12. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    you don’t like me

    ..
    I don’t know you.

  13. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    IF the Ukes have captured shit tins of Russians, and IF they’re not in a position to take them back to eastern Ukraine en masse because they wouldn’t have anyone left to shoot at Russians, and also considering they’d have to feed and shelter them, and IF they were let go they’d end up at or behind the Russian lines and thrown back into circulation, and IF they were serious – one in the leg would be fine. Books have been written on this, and I for one don’t see a problem with it.

    You can either accept the Geneva convention or not.

    But if you don’t, don’t expect your own forces to be treated in accordance with it.

  14. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Crimes can have mitigating circumstances and still be crimes.

    What’s the mitigating Circumstance?
    That they’re Sadists who hadn’t tortured anyone to death lately?

  15. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Nightshift starting early today. That is a problem for those of us who didn’t put shiraz on the cornflakes this morning.

  16. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Arkysays:

    March 28, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    I stand by what I wrote.

    ..
    Shut up you hag.

    Excellent bonhomie and good humour tonight.
    And top drawer debating too.

  17. JC Avatar

    JC.
    Do you know what percentage of the company C-B and his offsider hold now?

    Dude, this link suggests the fuckers are really worth 20 biggies as they may have sold out. FMD.

    0.57% % of Shares Held by All Insider
    91.75% % of Shares Held by Institutions
    92.27% % of Float Held by Institutions

    The highlighted Insider holding could be correct and if it is it means both doofi have essentially checked out. But is it true though?

  18. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Fair enough. In which case, we’d better go after the Australian WWII vets who unashamedly shot surrendering Japs out of hand in the Kokoda campaign in 1942/3

    You’re an idiot.
    If they unashamedly shot Japs out of hand, then they would have put their name to it.
    But no one ever did, so it wasn’t “unashamed”, was it?

  19. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    If only those stupid Russians stopped electing Russians.

  20. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    March 28, 2022 at 7:08 pm
    Okay Roger, let’s get down to TinTacks.
    If The Putler doesn’t get to emulate his childhood hero, Ming The Merciless, and rule the World with a rod of iron, I predict he will pursue a second career as a pompous, humourless windbag commenting on blogs.

    Impossible, Dick. You’ve got that position completely locked.

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If they unashamedly shot Japs out of hand, then they would have put their name to it.
    But no one ever did, so it wasn’t “unashamed”, was it?

    I’ve heard different.

  22. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    JCsays:
    March 28, 2022 at 7:34 pm
    sfw

    Atlassian has a market cap of about $72 billion. Mostly, his net worth would be tied in with his ownership as the founder of this heap of crap firm.

    Most of these people aren’t worth like billions with money in the bank. It’s based on market valuation of the businesses they founded. It’s ‘paper’ money.

    You spelled “Monopoly money” wrongly.

  23. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    JCsays:

    March 28, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    Sanchez

    Dickhead Brookes should be focusing more on getting out of the stock before the thing heads to zero instead of worrying about gerbiling and saddling the country with plastic panels and windmills.

    Firstly, he drinks his own bathwater so thinks Atlassian is headed for the moon based on his shining personality.
    Secondly, how does he extricate even 5% without crashing the price and pissing off people who bought in on his pumping up of it’s prospects.

  24. JC Avatar

    Okay, the annual report (2021) says they own

    Entities affiliated with T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc. (2) 13,379,591 5.31 % — — *
    Directors and Executive Officers:
    Michael Cannon-Brookes (3) — — 56,954,822 49.69 % 44.38 %
    Scott Farquhar (4) — — 56,954,822 49.69 % 44.38 %

    Cameron Deatsch (5) 11,616 * — — *
    James Beer (6) 40,852 * — — *
    Sri Viswanath (7) 335,967 * — — *
    Erika Fisher (8) 10,433 * — — *
    Shona Brown (9) 30,870 * — — *
    Heather Mirjahangir Fernandez (10) 13,500 * — — *
    Jay Parikh (11) 19,650 * — — *
    Enrique Salem (12) 130,457 * — — *
    Steven Sordello (13) 44,884 * — — *
    Sasan Goodarzi (14) 10,228 * — — *
    Richard P. Wong (15) 145,860 * — — *

    However these appear to be class B shares and not tradable like Class A, I guess which is where all the other shareholders reside. So it appears they haven’t gone through the check out counter just yet.

  25. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Arkysays:

    March 28, 2022 at 8:39 pm

    you don’t like me

    ..
    I don’t know you.

    Some say she would be wise to keep it that way.

  26. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    March 28, 2022 at 7:43 pm
    there are no grounds whatsoever for this murdering cnut killing thousands of innocent Ukrainians including the military, who should not have to sacrifice themselves to protect their people from these barbarians.

    Wake up to yourself.
    The Uke Army are massacring their own civilians.

    Dick Ed got this directly from a fellow spook.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Constitutional recognition of First Nations is essential for justice

    Jill Rowbotham
    Legal Affairs Correspondent
    17 minutes ago March 28, 2022
    3 Comments

    Constitutional recognition of Indigenous Australians is a necessary prerequisite for a just legal system, retired NSW chief justice Tom Bathurst has told a gathering of senior lawyers and judges.

    “A just legal system is not one which is only just to most people,” Mr Bathurst said in a speech to a Law Society of NSW dinner on Monday. “We won’t achieve a system that is just until First Nations communities and elders are not merely consulted but have an active role in the formation of the laws and processes which affect them, including, I think, constitutional recognition.”

    Mr Bathurst, who retired this month at 74 after almost 11 years as chief justice, also canvassed improvements to the system over the years such as the rise of alternative dispute resolution, the introduction of judicial intervention by way of case management and an increasing recognition that it is important for people who pass through the justice system to believe they have been heard.

    “Research indicates that if parties feel they have been treated fairly, they are more likely to view even an unfavourable outcome as substantively fair and comply with it,” he said.

    He credited former High Court justice Michael Kirby with triggering a change in culture in the mid-1980s when he was president of the NSW Court of Appeal.

    “Before that (the Court of Appeal) could be a terrifying place to appear. Justice Kirby brought to that court the previously rare quality of civility, which eventually filtered down to other parts of the court and other courts of the state, so that people were more and more able to feel they had received a fair hearing.”

    However, Mr Bathurst returned to the theme of justice for Indigenous Australians when he urged the adoption of a more holistic view of the legal system given the risk that “while the court might fulfil justice in the narrow sense, the broader sense may be neglected”. He stressed the importance of “solution-based courts such as the Drug Court” and the necessity of “focusing on particular problems such as over-incarceration of First Nations peoples. What might be described as therapeutic justice will become increasingly important”.

    Bring on the referendum into Constitutional recognition of indigenous Australians, the sooner the better. Oh, and when did they become “First Nations?”

  28. JC Avatar

    You spelled “Monopoly money” wrongly.

    LOL, B John.

  29. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    You’ve heard different, Zulu?
    Someone boasting about murdering a surrendered soldier in Cold Blood?

  30. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Large funnel hung off the handrail

    Yep. The Piss-O-Phone.
    Or so my mates tell me.

  31. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    JC at 8:55.
    It’s worse than I thought.
    Cannon-Brookes and Farquhar own 88.8% of the company between them.
    Near to 90%.
    I don’t know current ASX rules, but I don’t think it could be listed on the ASX with that shateholding structure.
    So what we’ve got is a tightly held stock with only 11% available on market outside those two. In truth there is probably only a tiny percentage of stock traded, which is what is driving the stock price.
    The business fundamentals certainly aren’t.

  32. JC Avatar

    More on the Anesthesia (Atlassian) fuckheads.

    Their shareholding, according to the 2021 annual reports suggests they own about $16 billion of the stock tucked away in Class B.

    However, the Oz says their net worth is about $20 billion. This could suggest the Bobbsey twins may have cashed in about $4 billion of the stock. Sounds plausible I guess.

  33. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    JC,
    It is hard to know about video footage in Afghan. Whilst you have to admire SAS fighting abilities you do have to wonder at their total lack of concern about destroying what could be serious evidence against them or their mates. To them it was a “souvenir”.

    The footage of that helicopter incident should never have come to light. The guy whose head the camera was on is now an accomplice to the cover up of the shooting. The initial incident was investigated, without the footage, and obviously all there have given false statements. How that got to somebody else and ended up on ABC is mind boggling.

    Ben RS got into trouble for items he hid in his garden. Another SAS guy, a witness against RS, had a wife who was talking about photos she had which were from Afghan.

    If going to do dodgy stuff make sure you destroy the footage !

  34. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Ed the Cat Fondler:

    In New Guinea, Australian soldier VX66349 noted his distress when ‘a patrol of ours found one of our mates, who had been missing. He’d been tied to a tree by the Japs, with a length of bamboo forced into his backside’. The solder died a little while later, and VX66349 concluded: ‘I went a little insane for a while, and when we’d cornered some Japs later on, the things we did to them now seem horifuing – but I guess that’s war.’

    And:

    Feelings ran high in the botched Operation Market Garden in 1944, with desperate assaults on both sides to gain crucial ascendancy. In an attack across the Waal River the Allied troops took heavy losses, and so any Germans who ‘…belatedly sought to surrender were cut down ruthlessly by paratroopers enraged by their terrible losses.’

    Lethality in Combat, Dr. Tom Lewis: pp. 176 and 178

    The quote from the bottom one is from Sir Max Hastings. It’s not on Google, Ed, but it’s out there. Riiiiight out there.

  35. JC Avatar

    So what we’ve got is a tightly held stock with only 11% available on market outside those two. In truth there is probably only a tiny percentage of stock traded, which is what is driving the stock price.
    The business fundamentals certainly aren’t.

    Oh okay, good figuring out, Sanchez. So the float is tiny and traded as class A. They’re hiding with a massive holding in Class B. Those two fuckheads are never going to get their money, I hope.

  36. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    NT Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker met police before Zachary Rolfe charged with murder over Kumanjayi Walker

    MATT CUNNINGHAM
    DARWIN BUREAU CHIEF

    Northern Territory Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker was involved in a meeting of senior police executives held just minutes before detectives were directed to charge Constable Zachary Rolfe with murder.

    Police notes obtained by The Australian show senior police executives including Mr Chalker met in Deputy Commissioner Michael White’s office at 3.34pm on November 13, 2019, the afternoon Constable Rolfe was charged with the murder of Indigenous man Kumanjayi Walker.

    Detectives investigating the case were called into the same office at 3.47pm – after Mr Chalker had left – where they were directed to arrest Constable Rolfe.

    Independent Commissioner Against Corruption Michael Riches is expected to announce on Tuesday an investigation into the decision to charge Constable Rolfe with murder less than four days after he killed Mr Walker during a failed arrest attempt in the remote community of Yuendumu, about 300km northwest of Alice Springs.

    Constable Rolfe this month was found not guilty of murder and the reserve charges of manslaughter and engaging in a violent act causing death. Mr Chalker last week said he had remained at arm’s length from the investigation and was “as shocked as anybody” when he learned the officer had been charged with murder.

    Notes taken by Detective Acting Superintendent Kirk Pennuto detail the “private meeting” involving Mr Chalker and senior executives at NAB House in Darwin’s Smith St.

    It is not known what was discussed at that initial meeting. Thirteen minutes later, after Mr Chalker left, Supt Pennuto, Commander Dole and Supt Kennedy were called into the office.

    “1547 Meeting in office of DCOP White. Present are (Assistant Commissioner Nick) Anticich, (Deputy Commissioner Michael) Murphy, (Deputy Commissioner Michael) White, Kennedy, Dole, (Communications Director Rob) Cross + me,” the notes say.

    The notes show at this meeting detectives were directed to arrest and charge Constable Rolfe amid concerns he would fly back to his parents’ home in Canberra.

    “White states he has recent credible information that Rolfe is flying out of the NT to Canberra tomorrow morning,” the notes say. “White queries whether arrest is now appropriate on basis of DPP recommendations (and) travel info.”

    Deputy Commissioner Murphy, Deputy Commissioner White and Assistant Commissioner Anticich then discuss the logistics of an arrest before agreeing it should be done as soon as possible.

    “Anticich – ‘my view is we have to consider ‘going’ now’,” Supt Pennuto’s notes say.

    “White – ‘it does look like he is travelling and an extradition would be a nightmare’.

    “Murphy – ‘ok then’ – leaves room.

    “Anticich – ‘what is the decision then?’.

    “White – ‘we have to arrest. What else is reasonable?’.

    “Anticich – ‘OK, we are arresting. Kirk, Doley, there is to be no communications prior but immediate comms after. There will need to be family advice plus the chief will need to know straight away’.

    “White – ‘I guess we locate him, assemble arrest teams etc’.”

    Assistant Commissioner Anticich and Mr Cross then discuss a communications strategy before the meeting is closed.

    In a statement, Mr Chalker’s office said NT Police had provided a brief to the Director of Public Prosecutions, “who advised there was a prima facie case for a charge of murder to be laid”.

    “The Commissioner had no involvement in this process.

    “A meeting was held to advise senior members of the executive and discuss the operational aspects of the arrest and charging of Constable Rolfe. The Commissioner was not in this meeting.”

    The statement did not directly address a question about what had been discussed at the earlier meeting attended by the Commissioner. It said the NT police force was providing information to the Coroner ahead of an inquiry in September and police would co-operate with any ICAC investigation.

    The notes of another detective, Senior Sergeant Mark Malagorski, show investigators sought an opinion from the Director of Public Prosecution about a possible murder charge on Monday, November 11, 2019, less than two days after the shooting.

    “Member reports A/Commander Martin Dole and D/A/Supt Kirk Pennuto returning from their meeting with DPP Director Jack Karczewski QC who recommended the charge of murder and matter needs to be before a jury,” Det Sen-Sgt Malagorski noted at 1.37pm on November 11.

    “DPP request a brief of evidence COB Wednesday November 13, 2019!

    “Interview to be conducted or offered to Constable Zac (sic) Rolfe by COB Tuesday November 12 2019. DPP will review the brief and will advise appropriate charge(s).”

    Officers were then directed to be ready to charge Constable Rolfe at Alice Springs Airport if he tried to fly to Canberra. Instead he was directed to fly to Darwin.

    The notes show there were discussions about negotiating an “arrest by appointment” at Darwin police station on Thursday, November 14. But the arrest was brought forward when it was learned Constable Rolfe planned to fly from Darwin to Canberra.

    After his trial, Constable Rolfe’s barrister, David Edwardson QC, said the decision to charge his client was a disgrace and had occurred in “the absence of any meaningful investigation”.

    The Australian this month revealed other detectives working on the investigation had detailed concerns about the haste with which he was charged. They were also concerned an opinion from the Director of Public Prosecutions had been sought so quickly.

    In her official police statement, Detective Sergeant Isobel Cummins says: “On numerous occasions, I and other investigators had voiced our concerns regarding the rushed process … and the fact we were not comfortable with the current situation without a full assessment of the evidence and ability to investigate objectively.”

    Oz breaking news – comments strangely open

  37. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    You’ve heard different, Zulu?
    Someone boasting about murdering a surrendered soldier in Cold Blood?

    I’ve heard that you smile when you murder logic, sense and factual reality, Grigs.

    And you aren’t afraid to be seen doing it, either…

  38. JC Avatar

    Brett

    These dudes could have been under real pressure and they exploded. Who knows and also we really need to be wary of context from video. Sometimes, it’s just best to say their guilt or innocence will be determined by their God.

  39. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    JCsays:
    March 28, 2022 at 8:32 pm
    Sanchez

    Dickhead Brookes should be focusing more on getting out of the stock before the thing heads to zero instead of worrying about gerbiling and saddling the country with plastic panels and windmills.

    Bugger that. The prick should ride the stock all the way down to wallpaper value.

  40. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Korea:

    Hackworth [David Hackworth, of later We Were Soldiers fame in Vietnam], as a sergeant, came upon one of his privates eating some rations, with prisoners dead at his feet, ‘each from a single bullet in the back of the head.’ Hackworth….. asked why they’d been killed, receiving the answer that they had ‘tried to escape’. The private’s brother had been killed only a few days before.

    Lethality In Combat, p.180

    There’s more Ed.

  41. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    US Army Colonel Roger to his men in Vietnam, and on the subject of prisoners:

    If they’re going to slow you down, kill them.

    I can go all night with this, Ed.

    It’s an occupational hazard of that line of work, and all the sooking on Earth will not change that fact.

  42. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “JCsays:
    March 28, 2022 at 9:04 pm
    More on the Anesthesia (Atlassian) fuckheads.”

    JC…I think I read something last year or the year before that these two Atlassian grubs set up complicated offshore tax arrangements that pay minimal company tax here in Oz…unlike people like Rinehart and Forrest.

    Mike Cannon-Brookes’ father headed Herbert Smith Freehills for years.

  43. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    Why Australians are NOT getting their Covid booster shot

    They will be easing “some” emergency powers from April 17.

  44. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    March 28, 2022 at 8:48 pm
    Fair enough. In which case, we’d better go after the Australian WWII vets who unashamedly shot surrendering Japs out of hand in the Kokoda campaign in 1942/3

    You’re an idiot.
    If they unashamedly shot Japs out of hand, then they would have put their name to it.
    But no one ever did, so it wasn’t “unashamed”, was it?

    Dickless

    .1 Officially recorded in the Official History.

    .2 Have you read the memoirs of every Australian soldier who served on the Kokoda Trail? I recall one of them mentioning in his memoirs that he was part of a group who shot over 50 Japanese prisoners.

  45. JC Avatar

    Thanks Cassie

    You can be sure that their complex overseas arrangements are theoretical, because the firm is yet to turn a profit. 🙂

  46. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    New Guinea.

    “The policy of shooting Japanese soldiers attempting to surrender, using the airdropped leaflets, is yielding the results you would expect. What do these fools think would happen?”

    Australian soldier, in his diary.

  47. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    There’s two problems KD.
    1. If it becomes a known, entrenched habit the enemy might become somewhat reluctant to surrender, making more casualties on one’s own side.
    2. It remains illegal.
    3. When the other side does it like the SS at Malmedy(?) we purport to find it an atrocity.

  48. dover0beach Avatar

    KD, in those examples, the shooting of captured enemies occurs shortly after capture, when the animal spirits are still high. In the recent example, that mitigating factor is absent.

  49. JC Avatar

    Cassie

    I thought the father was a British import working for Citibank here in Oz. He could have migrated to Freehills later on though (of course).

    That’s not important though as the son is a absolute arsehole.

    Cannon-Brookes was born in November 1979,[5] the son of a global banking executive, also named Mike, and his wife, Helen. He graduated from the University of New South Wales with a bachelor’s degree in information systems on a UNSW Co-op Scholarship

  50. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    From TE’s link:

    Police notes obtained by The Australian show senior police executives including Mr Chalker met in Deputy Commissioner Michael White’s office at 3.34pm on November 13, 2019, the afternoon Constable Rolfe was charged with the murder of Indigenous man Kumanjayi Walker.

    Detectives investigating the case were called into the same office at 3.47pm – after Mr Chalker had left – where they were directed to arrest Constable Rolfe.

    If you read this, which is a pissweak attempt to distance Chalker from dodgy politically-driven decision-making, in the context of this, from the NT Independent today:

    Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker personally referred the Constable Zach Rolfe matter to the Territory’s anti-corruption body in 2019 for what he described as “suspected improper conduct” less than 48 hours after the incident and before any charges were filed, which appears to contradict his statement last week that he was “shocked” when the criminal charges were laid

    Then there’s no doubt. Chalker is gonski. There are memes circulating already that Chief Minister Michael Gunner will throw Chalker (his former schoolmate) under the bus, and I reckon that is exactly what will happen.

  51. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    In the recent example, that mitigating factor is absent.

    Fair enough Dover. However, I will return to my other constant moan about video footage and what happened before and after, because we do not know (as opposed to being told, potentially by someone with an axe to grind) how long after any fighting finished the shootings occurred.

  52. JC Avatar

    AFR

    Actually dad sounds just as big a dickhead as the son. A real blowhard. (Driller must know him personally).

    He did work ad Freehiils.

    Joanne Gray
    Joanne GrayManaging editor
    Jun 9, 2016

    Mike Cannon-Brookes is not at all deflated by the fact that, despite his glittering, globetrotting career with United States multinationals IBM and Citibank, he is now known as the father of Mike, the co-founder of Atlassian.

    Cannon-Brookes snr was one of the crop of foreigners who swelled the finance industry in Australia the early ’80s, when foreign banks were invited to apply for licences. After stints in London, New York and Taipei for Citibank, the British Cannon-Brookes was running Citi’s private and investment banking in Hong Kong when he got asked to move again.

    “I got this call one day from New York saying ‘Go to Australia. There’s a man called Keating. Get a bank licence.’ I mean this is typical Citibank style.”

    Mike Cannon-Brookes snr: “The only lasting things that you can pass on to your children is your value system.” Nic Walker

    Cannon-Brookes was in charge of lodging Citi’s foreign bank licence application: three leather-bound volumes, plus 11 copies. He was so worried about couriering it to Canberra he drove it down himself, handing it to the head of the international division of federal Treasury, David Morgan (who later became Westpac chief executive). In 1985, Treasurer Paul Keating officially opened Citibank’s first branch. Keating told Cannon-Brookes recently that he only did the honours because “you were so goddamn persistent”.

    As the family wanted to stay in Australia, he took a job with Freehills. Then another call came. It was Bob Joss, Westpac managing director. “Bob said, ‘Hey you’ve gotta stop futzing around with this law firm. Can you come and help me? I need somebody to run all the operations and technology,’ ” he says.
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  53. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    In the recent example, that mitigating factor is absent.

    ..
    How do you know that?

  54. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “That’s not important though as the son is a absolute arsehole.”

    Yep.

  55. JC Avatar

    Thanks Cassie

    We’ve Cannon- Brookesed enough tonight. I’m brookesed out.

  56. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    I can go all night with this, Ed.

    Yeah, it’s like you’re gloating about it.
    Have you thought about joining up with the Uke Army?
    I’m sure they’d welcome you, seeing as they’re doing so well in the war.

  57. dover0beach Avatar

    how long after any fighting finished the shootings occurred.

    It looks like they were transported to that location so a reasonable time had passed.

  58. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    DownVote button required for these idiots.

  59. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    It looks like they were transported to that location

    ..
    How do you know that?

  60. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Have you thought about joining up with the Uke Army?

    Nah. It’s all mutton and gluten over there.

    P.S. Eat shit with your stupid unqualified unresearched and evidence-free statements.

    I might put a couple more up anyway. Ya flamer.

  61. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    March 28, 2022 at 9:32 pm
    DownVote button required for these idiots.

    Dickless Ed seems unhappy that his evidence free assertions have been challenged with actual facts.

    Sad, low energy.

  62. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    JC at 9:09.

    So the float is tiny and traded as class A. They’re hiding with a massive holding in Class B. Those two fuckheads are never going to get their money, I hope.

    It is entirely possible that the Atlassian share price is underpinned by about 200 Sydney Eastern suburbs wankers who like to go to some gauche over-priced Hemmes restaurant, loudly order something outrageously expensive and then loudly tell everyone how smart they were by buying into Atlassian.

  63. dover0beach Avatar

    How do you know that?

    I believe I saw some being pulled out of a vehicle. Might be wrong. Also seem to recall them wearing zip ties too. So if you had the nerve to zip tie them but shoot them later, you’re probably in a bit of trouble.

  64. JC Avatar

    Dover

    I just watched the vid. In the first part of the you see the first guy being shot and a red streak is visible near his legs. It looks like its blood streaming. However, there is no blood on the ground or on him as the vid progresses.

  65. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Atlassian grubs — spend *your* taxes on their green dream, while they funnel their profits out of Oz.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8036277/Atlassian-paid-no-income-tax-despite-making-1billion-one-year.html

    $1B revenue, $138M profit- zero Oz tax.

  66. JC Avatar

    Duncanm

    They didn’t make a $ billion as the link says. The firm made a billion in revenue, which is not the same.

  67. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    I believe I saw some being pulled out of a vehicle. Might be wrong. Also seem to recall them wearing zip ties too. So if you had the nerve to zip tie them but shoot them later, you’re probably in a bit of trouble

    ..
    Infantry is trained to enhance the shock of capture.
    That’s when harsh treatment occurs such as dragging enemy to lie next to the corpses of dead comrades.
    IF the leg shooting occurred, it would probably occur in that context immediately after capture. There’s no point doing it hours later, I think.
    It’s in order to soften them up for interrogation taking advantage of the disorientation that getting captured causes.
    Actual soldiers on this blog, rather than me, a bloke who did some part time soldering as part of a mid life crisis might add more on the likely timings and circumstances after a battle of such. I mostly speculate.

  68. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Covid vaccination commander Lieutenant-General John Frewen said Australia finally passed 95 per cent vaccination, but the booster rate was far behind.

    I often think of the military when medical matters concerning my well-being arise.
    Seems our military hierarchy are skilled at everything unrelated to war.

  69. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The logistics of taking prisoners will sometime outweigh the value of having them. Like having wounded people, it takes fit fighting soldiers to take them from the battlefield, and sometimes you can’t afford to lose them.

    In April 1917, Gordon Highlander John Eugene Crombie was ordered to bayonet surrendering Germans in a captured trench because it was ‘expedient from a military point of view in that officers of the assault refused to spare soldiers to escort those captured’.

    World War I infantryman Thomas Marks took part in an attack where the word was passed to the units involved that prisoners were not to be taken, due to the heavy losses his division had taken and there not being enough personnel to escort any captives to the rear. Marks was then involved in an attack on two machine-guns in which his section took the German position, with the eight Germans there surrendering to the five British.

    Despite their protestations of ‘Kamerad’, the defeated soldiers were shot at close range by rifle fire. The section then took a deep dugout where Germans took refuge; they were at first subdued with a grenade, and the survivors exhorted to come out. When they did, one by one, they were shot, and eventually, hearing the shots, the remaining Germans refused to emerge and were finished off with more grenades.

    Lethality in Combat, p. 189

    This is not new, and has been around since warfare started. I’m not saying throw the entire Geneva Convention in the bin, but observers need to realise that this happens, it has always happened and to recognise it as such.

    This back seat unqualified generalship is what gave us the Brereton Enquiry.

  70. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    JCsays:
    March 28, 2022 at 9:49 pm
    Duncanm

    They didn’t make a $ billion as the link says. The firm made a billion in revenue, which is not the same.

    I think you’ll find that’s what I wrote.

    $1B revenue, $138M profit.

  71. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Any videos yet of brave lady Ukrainian (or Russian, for that matter) infantry, on their backs having just been disembowelled by shrapnel?

    Can’t be long before someone thinks that up.

  72. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    Oh come on says:
    March 28, 2022 at 3:29 pm

    I know you asked Dover but here’s my 2c. I think the ‘denazification’ objective could easily backfire badly. You can kill all of the ultra-nationalist far right soldiers from Galicia but this won’t kill their perspective of the non-Ukrainian world that’s common in that part of Ukraine, (ie. an intense hatred of Russia combined with a somewhat milder hatred of the Poles and the Hungarians and anyone nearby who they don’t consider Ukrainian).

    In that Oliver Stone documentary about Ukraine, he asked a youngish Azov soldier what their aims were. He said that they wanted to kill all the Russians, then kill all the Jews.

    I’m surprised that there are any Jews left in Ukraine, with their long bloody history of pogroms, then the Holodomor, then the Holocaust, how did any survive those times.

  73. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    I’m not saying throw the entire Geneva Convention in the bin,
    That’s exactly what you’re saying.
    but observers need to realise that this happens, it has always happened and to recognise it as such.
    Sure.
    It’s Murder.

    This back seat unqualified generalship is what gave us the Brereton Enquiry.
    Says the biggest Armchair General/ Military Porn Fanboi on the blog.

    When did that Order to bayonet the surrendering Germans first see the light of day?
    It wasn’t 1917 or likely in the lifetime of those who gave the Order.

  74. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Hackworth [David Hackworth, of later We Were Soldiers fame in Vietnam]

    IIRC the We were soldiers guy was Harold G Moore.

  75. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    After studying the Cat for many years I know how to phrase the following sentiment correctly.

    The bat-eared mong got OMG.

  76. JC Avatar
    JC

    No doubt Duncanm. I said I was referring to the piece.

  77. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Dickless

    When did that Order to bayonet the surrendering Germans first see the light of day?
    It wasn’t 1917 or likely in the lifetime of those who gave the Order.

    Check with your spook associates, they’ll be able to tell you.

  78. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    When did that Order to bayonet the surrendering Germans first see the light of day?
    It wasn’t 1917 or likely in the lifetime of those who gave the Order.

    Once again, Ed, you are wrong. It ‘saw the light of day’ as all written orders did at the time.

    It was also reproduced in Joanna Bourke’s An Intimate History of Killing: Face-to-Face Killing in Twentieth-Century Warfare (1999).

  79. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Pretty bad stuff. They abuse the prisoners and then they shoot them in the legs and genitals. Some of the Russians appear to be in shock and near death

    Shooting their balls off.
    https://beyondhighbrow.com/2022/03/27/video-of-ukrainian-soldiers-shooting-russian-prisoners-in-the-legs/

  80. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Covid vaccination commander Lieutenant-General John Frewen

    The Mongness of the ADF writ large by signing up to be implicated in the COVID clusterfuck.

  81. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Eyriesays:
    March 28, 2022 at 9:59 pm
    Hackworth [David Hackworth, of later We Were Soldiers fame in Vietnam]

    IIRC the We were soldiers guy was Harold G Moore.

    Hackworth wrote About Face, Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts, and several other books.

  82. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    IIRC the We were soldiers guy was Harold G Moore.

    Yep. Researched the other stuff, went from memory on that one.

    Stood and corrected.

  83. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    It was also reproduced in Joanna Bourke’s An Intimate History of Killing: Face-to-Face Killing in Twentieth-Century Warfare (1999).

    Yeah.
    They were so fucking “unashamed” about it that it remained a secret for 82 years.
    You quibbling idiot.

  84. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daily Mail.

    Australian rugby league to get its FIRST transgender player who is set to compete in the women’s competition

    Transgender rugby league player lodges application to play in the NRLW
    Her request to compete is being considered by the top brass of the NRL
    Issue has divided fans some arguing ‘it’s not fair’ and others saying ‘let her play’

  85. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Wasn’t David Hackworth a Spook.
    Involved ion the Anti Nuclear Weapons Movement in Australia.

  86. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Who knows what Australians got up to in Afghanistan.
    The kicking the old man off a cliff story is horse shit (the original story).
    The killing three men in a cave story with a hammer is pure garbage (but they dropped that one pretty quickly).
    But considering the DoD’s own Afghanistan papers showed some pretty sick shit who knows how bad things got over there.
    There was one period where the US had 300 missions where there were zero enemy or suspected enemy killed but there were civilian deaths.
    Think about how loose they were to rack up those stats.
    And that the DoD’s own reports.
    If Wikileaks didn’t open your eyes about the barbarity over there, nothing will.

  87. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Ed, you missed this bit:

    It ‘saw the light of day’ as all written orders did at the time.

    Nothing was hidden. Public hatred was paramount.

    Had you been alive then, you would have starved to death before being made to dance for change in the village square, where you later slept next to that village’s pet retarded cow for warmth.

  88. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    I’m surprised that there are any Jews left in Ukraine, with their long bloody history of pogroms, then the Holodomor, then the Holocaust, how did any survive those times.
    I’m sorry Old Bloke but I don’t follow the historical points you’re making about Ukraine.
    Pogroms in areas with big Jewish populations began after the Russian empire expanded into new territories.
    The Holodomor was about land ownership and collectivised agriculture. No doubt Jewish landholders were caught up in the Marxist famine but they weren’t the prime target.
    Like the Polish, the Jews copped it both ways.

  89. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    The most disgusting hypocrite: Hilton
    Steve Hilton blasts Apple CEO Tim Cook for virtue-signaling while exploiting middle America on ‘The Next Revolution.’ #FoxNews #Hilton

  90. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    When I here stories out of Ukraine of soldiers suiciding by charging at their own bayonets fixed to tent pegs, then I will know it is fair dinkum.

  91. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Asia Society President and CEO and Asia Society Policy Institute President Kevin Rudd

    New trough secured.

  92. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Did not get the Medal of Honour but the most awarded medals of any US soldier. Started off as a grunt in Korea and then a very effective battalion commander in Vietnam. Declined his last purple heart as would have meant he could no longer command frontline unit. Famous for criticising the conduct of the war whilst still serving. Retired on Sunshine Coast.

    “Hackworth wrote About Face, Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts, and several other books”.

  93. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Does anything better illustrate the futility of war than arguing with Mr Ed?

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Did not get the Medal of Honour but the most awarded medals of any US soldier.

    Ten Silver Stars and eight Purple Hearts. Retired to the Sunshine Coast because he thought Australia would be the safest place to be in a nuclear war, where they spoke English.

  95. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Did not get the Medal of Honour but the most awarded medals of any US soldier.

    Rubbish.
    They’ve pushed that line about any number of American soldiers.

    Famous for criticising the conduct of the war whilst still serving.

    Yeah, as if they’d let someone get away with that.
    Unless he was a Spook and that was part of his cover story.

  96. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Been out at the coal face for a few hours.
    Has the video of BRS monstering prisoners been linked yet?
    (The one we’ve [all] supposedly already seen.)

  97. JC Avatar
    JC

    Oh look, it’s the criminal. Driller who fed you the info, you ridiculous galoot. Someone did.

  98. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Yeah, as if they’d let someone get away with that.

    Grigory, the US Military has long fostered a very collegiate and philosophical attitude amongst its officer class, even into its latter-day experiments with woke Maoism.

    You can express your doubts and disagreements about policy, strategy and tactics, while prosecuting your duties to the best of your ability. Both are reasonable expectations.

    Even mere diggers grumble or philosophise when the moment takes them, then get on with the job. Kvetching is only challenged or stifled if it goes on too long and upsets morale and cohesion.

    Now go upstairs and play with your warble flies before you embarrass yourself further.

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rubbish.
    They’ve pushed that line about any number of American soldiers.

    Such as?

  100. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    No mention of link to the BRS prisoner-abuse video.
    Dearie me, it’s enough to make a chap think it does not exist!

    Praps I’ll scrollup & see for myself.

  101. JC Avatar

    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
    March 28, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    No mention of link to the BRS prisoner-abuse video.
    Dearie me, it’s enough to make a chap think it does not exist!

    Praps I’ll scrollup & see for myself.

    Just like any criminal would behave. Just human garbage.

  102. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    spent today un-hotting an ex hot-hotel

    fans were the order of the day
    pressure controlled fresh air fans on each floor and pressure controlled extract fans on the roof

    sounds trivial I know, but trust me it isn’t

    for 2 years nobody but the anointed were allowed on that rooftop and only with a moon-suit and proper training and donning and doffing stations … and probably sanitiser showers or something as well

    we are not ‘the anointed’ but did midnight remote interwebs support to assist the anointed with their change-over of variable speed drives on those fans. crucial to everybody’s survival they were

    anyways, turns out that for at least year one of those most critical and deadliest exhaust fans evah was running backwards

    yep … blowing rather than sucking

    the combined guidance from Health, Justice and Engineering got it all arse-about

    seriously we are lucky to still have a civilization

  103. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Ed case ,

    Perhaps you could name one other US service member who has a better quality medal set ? In terms of numbers he exceeds Audie Murphy who was a Medal of Honor winner. Hackworth is impressive as over period of time and from junior rank to senior officer.

    “Rubbish.
    They’ve pushed that line about any number of American soldiers”.

  104. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Former SAS soldier objects to giving evidence about alleged ‘murder’, court told
    Michaela Whitbourn
    By Michaela Whitbourn
    March 28, 2022 — 9.40pm

    A former Special Air Service soldier has objected to giving evidence in the Federal Court about his potential involvement in missions in Afghanistan with war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith, on the basis his testimony might incriminate him in an alleged murder.

    Giving evidence in Mr Roberts-Smith’s defamation case on Monday, the former soldier known as Person 66 objected to answering a question about how many missions he went on in Afghanistan when the decorated former soldier was his patrol commander.

    A lawyer acting for Person 66 told the court that there were reasonable grounds for the objection because the evidence the witness was anticipated to give “would have the tendency to incriminate” him in the commission of an alleged offence. Asked about the nature of the offence, his lawyer told the court it “would be an offence of murder, your Honour”.

    The identity of Person 66, who was deployed to Afghanistan with the SAS in 2012 with Mr Roberts-Smith, cannot be revealed for national security reasons.

    Justice Anthony Besanko told Person 66 there were reasonable grounds for his objection, and said the court had the ability to grant him a certificate under section 128 of the Evidence Act “which means that, if you give the evidence, the evidence cannot be used against you in any proceeding in an Australian court”.

    But Person 66 said he was still unwilling to give the evidence. The former SAS soldier was subpoenaed by The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times to give evidence in Mr Roberts-Smith’s defamation case against the mastheads, which are seeking to rely on a defence of truth.

    Nicholas Owens, SC, acting for the newspapers, confirmed he was seeking to have the court compel Person 66 to give the evidence, in spite of his objection. Justice Besanko will hear legal argument on this point on Tuesday morning.

    Mr Roberts-Smith, who denies all wrongdoing, is suing for defamation over a series of reports in 2018 that he says portray him as a war criminal.

    The newspapers have alleged Mr Roberts-Smith directed Person 66 to kill an Afghan prisoner in 2012 as an exercise in “blooding” a soldier. Under the rules of engagement, persons under the control of Australian troops cannot be killed. A killing in those circumstances is murder.

    Earlier on Monday, Assistant Defence Minister and former SAS captain Andrew Hastie told the court that he believed Person 66 had been “blooded” during a mission in October 2012 in an area in Afghanistan called Siah Chow, although he was not an eyewitness to the alleged incident.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A former Special Air Service soldier has objected to giving evidence in the Federal Court about his potential involvement in missions in Afghanistan with war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith, on the basis his testimony might incriminate him in an alleged murder.

    Noel Pearson was credited with writing an article in the Oz – this is fast turning into a war crimes trial, masquerading as a defamation action.

  106. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    What’s a warble fly?

  107. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    JC says: March 28, 2022 at 11:13 pm

    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
    March 28, 2022 at 11:05 pm
    No mention of link to the BRS prisoner-abuse video.
    Dearie me, it’s enough to make a chap think it does not exist!
    Praps I’ll scrollup & see for myself.

    Just like any criminal would behave. Just human garbage.

    Er.. No.
    He’s not been proved to be a criminal.

    You should choose your words more carefully. BRS has serious form when it comes to taking action against those who say horrid things about him that are not true.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What’s a warble fly?

    In Western Australian, a warble fly is a species of blowfly, that spends it’s days hanging round a sheep’s arZe. Hope this helps.

  109. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    Atlassian is probably overvalued at the moment.

    Their flagship software is quite expensive, and a lot of cheaper competitors are emerging with really good offerings.

    Many customers are currently evaluating switching over. I don’t see their current revenue being maintained.

  110. JC Avatar

    Er.. No.
    He’s not been proved to be a criminal.

    Are you drunk or just lying, you ridiculous piece of shit. I’ve never suggested BRS is a criminal. You are. you act like one every time you show up here. You lie, you cheat and you blowhard. These are all the traits of someone genetically disposed to acting out as a criminal.

    Again, you attempted to try out your hypocrisy and lack of any standing as a decent commenter by suggesting the Ukrainian soldiers were acting illegally while on other occasions defending the SASS officer in the film perhaps shooting someone unarmed.

    Driller, you have a criminal mind which is why the banks will never lend you a cent and any manager whoever does ought to be fired. You’re a dishonest piece of shit without an ounce of integrity. And you know what, it fun smacking you around as I and others have done over the years. Because we’ve changed you and your behavior. Recall the pubbling, the Croc Dundeeing and the general blowharding? How’s the red hot poker up you fat rear, Champ? 🙂

  111. JC Avatar

    2 Dogs , it’s not as though they’re killing it on the revenue side of things either.

  112. Lazlo Avatar
    Lazlo

    Atlassian is a highly over-valued asset designed to suck in capital from the likes of the Turnbulls in order to close power stations. It is also a not very nimble IT company.

    The bubble will burst (sorry about the word ‘bubble’ JC, but it does resonate).

  113. JC Avatar

    Hey Laz, you’re using the word against Atlassian, so be my guest.

  114. Digger Avatar
    Digger

    Pretty bad stuff. They abuse the prisoners and then they shoot them in the legs and genitals. Some of the Russians appear to be in shock and near death

    Yeah, shit happens when people get angry because you invade a country and start killing people…

  115. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    JC says: March 28, 2022 at 11:36 pm

    Er.. No. He’s not been proved to be a criminal.

    Are you drunk or just lying, you ridiculous piece of shit. I’ve never suggested BRS is a criminal.

    In that case you should choose your words more carefully, lest you be sued (by mistake) by BRS, fresh from his deep pockets win over Ch9.

    You are.

    Oh dear, a most unfortunate choice of words by you.
    Are you betting on this? Confident enough in your assumption to put $4 million on it?

    you act like one every time you show up here.

    An assertation that may take quite some effort to back up, and which under cross-examination may prove most difficult to defend.

    You lie

    Yet you’re unable to demonstrate even one lie by me. Dearie dearie me.

    you cheat

    Again, this could prove to be a most unfortunate choice of words by you.

    and you blowhard.

    This is coming from someone who has spent the afternoon blowing hard about a non-existent video of BRS monstering prisoners. tsk tsk tsk!
    Sorta makes you indisputably a blowhard.

    These are all the traits of someone genetically disposed to acting out as a criminal.

    So far they apply only to you. Who am I to dispute your claim these traits of yours are the hallmark of a criminal?

    Again, you attempted to try out your hypocrisy and lack of any standing as a decent commenter by suggesting the Ukrainian soldiers were acting illegally

    As Ark is prone to saying: You should learn to read carefully before commenting.
    I was throwing doubt on the authenticity of the video.
    (This makes you a double blowhard – just in one post, dearie me you’re not doing well)

    while on other occasions defending the SASS officer in the film perhaps shooting someone unarmed.

    He’s not an officer & it seems the film does not exist. (You blowhard)

    Driller, you have a criminal mind

    Again, an unfortunate choice of words by you.

    which is why the banks will never lend you a cent

    What a stupid comment. One you are unable to support.
    Are you prepared to bet on this? Say $4 million that a bank would not be prepared to extend me credit?

    You’re a dishonest piece of shit without an ounce of integrity.

    Again, a most unfortunate & ill-advised choice of words by you.

    And you know what, it fun smacking you around as I and others have done over the years

    Yet you have never scored a point over me. Dearie dearie me!

    Because we’ve changed you and your behavior. Recall the pubbling, the Croc Dundeeing and the general blowharding? How’s the red hot poker up you fat rear, Champ?

    I’ve no idea what you’re talking about. Nor am I interested in a translation.
    It would take someone a whole lot more masculine than you to change my behaviour. You don’t have what it takes. Something you’ll just have to deal with.

    You don’t even have the bankbook to back the bets you make – This does not assist anyone to conclude you’re anything but a blowhard.

  116. JC Avatar

    This is coming from someone who has spent the afternoon blowing hard about a non-existent video of BRS monstering prisoners. tsk tsk tsk!
    Sorta makes you indisputably a blowhard.

    Nope, not at all. I made a mistake and owned up to it. That’s something you would never do, because you’re a dishonest dirtbag. Even then, it doesn’t change the fact that you’re a hypocrite nor lesson my arguement.
    1. You’ve made comment supportive of the SAS with respect to very bad accusations
    2. You made comments about cruelty of the Uke soldiers.

    Yet you have never scored a point over me. Dearie dearie me!

    Lol. You blowhard.

    I’ve no idea what you’re talking about. Nor am I interested in a translation.

    You do, but let me explain again. You used would come on blowharding, boring us endlessly about your pubbling prowess, how you were the real Croc Dundee etc. You avoid that now because of the mocking you received.

    It would take someone a whole lot more masculine than you to change my behaviour. You don’t have what it takes. Something you’ll just have to deal with.

    FMD, you’re dickhead. The worst.

    You don’t even have the bankbook to back the bets you make – This does not assist anyone to conclude you’re anything but a blowhard.

    It must hurt being referred to as a blowhard, if your trying to use it against me. I must be honest though Driller. Someone else came up with that description of you and I took it up because it was so, so accurate. You also behave like a criminal.

  117. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    What’s a warble fly?

    In Western Australian, a warble fly is a species of blowfly, that spends it’s days hanging round a sheep’s arZe. Hope this helps.

    That’s accurate, Zulu.

    KD, a warble fly is an English subspecies of the bot fly. A nasty little tunnelling parasite, I’m sure you would agree. 🙂

    Some months back, our resident gypsum-fuelled wrongologist decided on this here open thread, that Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE, aka Mad Cow Disease) was not caused by prions turning steers’ brains to mush. But was in fact a lethal adverse reaction to an alleged experimental warble fly vaccine. And that the mishap was covered up. By Spooks. And Flamers. Who were likely poisoned.

    He couldn’t explain the cow-human species jump that triggered the great BSE scare in England, as beasts are not known to be in the business of sticking humans with warble fly vaccine needles.

    Thus, the humble warble fly joins the pantheon of Grigs, taking its appropriate wrongful place amongst the Queensland Police’s traffic paddles, crystalline salt, carbohydrates, gypsum, Spooks, poisons and Flamers…

  118. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Nope, not at all. I made a mistake and owned up to it.

    So you concede you lied. Fair call.

    That’s something you would never do

    First I have to make a mistake. (Nice ALP style attempt at a strawman)

    because you’re a dishonest dirtbag.

    Another mistake you now have to own up to.

    it doesn’t change the fact that you’re a hypocrite nor lesson my arguement.

    Actually, basing your argument on something you made up does lessen your argument.
    It seems you’re switching to a “fake but true” angle?
    (What could possibly go wrong with that?)

    1. You’ve made comment supportive of the SAS with respect to very bad accusations

    So what?
    (I said the accusations are to date without substantiation – the same theme you’ve adopted for this thread.)

    2. You made comments about cruelty of the Uke soldiers.

    So what?I raised a query regards the authenticity of the video.

    Your mouth has made a bet your bank account cannot back.
    That pretty much ends you as a serious commenter.

    Game Over.

  119. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    And that the mishap was covered up. By Spooks. And Flamers. Who were likely poisoned.

    Ah. Poisoned spook flamers. Again. Someone should Do Something.

  120. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE, aka Mad Cow Disease)

    Two cows in a English paddock 15 years ago, standing around near the fenceline watching the traffic go past.

    One cow says to the other: ‘What do you think about this Mad Cow Disease?’
    Cow 2: ‘What’s that?’

    Cow 1: ‘Its a disease cows get from eating the wrong stuff. Affect the brain, and turns you crazy. Hence. Mad Cow Disease.’
    Cow 2: ‘Doesn’t bother me, mate.’

    Cow 1: ‘What? How can you say that? It turns cows insane! How can you say it doesn’t bother you?’
    Cow 2: ‘Because I’m a tractor.’

  121. JC Avatar
    JC

    Driller
    You’re pathetic.

  122. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    JC says: March 29, 2022 at 12:51 am

    Driller You’re pathetic.

    Coming from someone who cannot back their bets? Lol.
    You’ll never have what it takes to back your mouth.

    I own you.
    Game Over.

  123. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Two cows in an Australian paddock, yesterday, standing around the fenceline watching the traffic go past. They do this for hours, chewing their cud.

    Cow 1 turns to Cow 2 and goes; ‘MMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.’
    Cow 2 looks back at Cow 1 and goes: ‘Read my mind, Daryl. Was just about to say that.’

  124. JC Avatar
  125. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Most accurate self-description on the Cat in ages:

    JC says: March 29, 2022 at 1:00 am
    Blowhard

    Well done that Cat!

  126. Winston Smith Avatar

    Radical plan to end the energy crisis.
    Renewables have been ‘a catastrophic error’

    The UK energy system is dysfunctional and on the verge of collapse.
    They can’t say they weren’t warned. Repeatedly.
    But watch who cops it in the neck – the wukkas and the peasants.

    Time out for a couple of hours – headache.

  127. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Cow 1 turns to Cow 2 and goes; ‘MMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.’
    Cow 2 looks back at Cow 1 and goes: ‘Read my mind, Daryl. Was just about to say that.’

    Trans friendly cow joke, nice.

  128. Dot Avatar

    I’m still baffled why you would pay for Atlassian’s software.

    Unless it’s specialised stats stuff or a phone app, you can just write a macro for it.

    Instant messaging has been around for decades.

  129. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    March 28, 2022 at 10:33 pm
    Did not get the Medal of Honour but the most awarded medals of any US soldier.

    Rubbish.
    They’ve pushed that line about any number of American soldiers.

    Famous for criticising the conduct of the war whilst still serving.

    Yeah, as if they’d let someone get away with that.
    Unless he was a Spook and that was part of his cover story.

    Good old Dickless Ed. If in doubt, spin about spooks, and add in flamers for good measure. Never any actual evidence, though. Just random assertions.

    Read up those memoirs of Australian soldiers who served on the Kokoda Trail yet, Dickless?

  130. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Special Ed wants a down vote button? Only thing he could win. Look I got the most votes. Idjit.

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