Open Thread – Weekend 21 May 2021


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  1. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    2dogs at 4:49.
    Sorry about that.
    I was flicking between here and the ABC site and it seems it was updating in real time. Results on the three doubtful spots were flicking around.
    But yes, “Teal Pocock” is the ex rugger sjw.

  2. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Correction …
    LNP 31
    ALP 25
    Greens 12
    PHON 2
    Jacqui Jackie Party 2
    Teal Pocock 1
    Total confirmed or likely 73
    So it looks like ALP + Greens + Pocock = 38 not counting three positions which are in doubt.
    One has the ALP listed as ahead in WA which would take the Liars to 39.
    The other two in doubt are UAP and PHON.

  3. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Well, that’s me out.

    It was you I was thinking of when I made up the rule actually.

  4. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    An excerpt from a Hun piece on Sophie Scamps’ win in Mackellar. The teal drawbridge is already being raised, and the matching portcullis dropped:

    [F]ellow ‘teal’ and independent Zali Steggall from neighbouring Warringah said in her victory speech on Saturday that she had wanted to see more smart, professional women in Canberra and “through the community movement” gender parity had been achieved.

    Her dreams are realised. The ‘smart, professional women’ she had wanted are now installed. If ‘gender parity’ is a thing, then according to Steggall that race has also been run and won.

    Watch how many new chicks will be admitted to the exclusive Teal Federation. Zero. It will make the Athenaeum and Savage Clubs look like free-for-alls.

  5. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    It was you I was thinking of when I made up the rule actually.

    Rightly so. Standards, etc.

  6. Dot Avatar

    $54.20, really?

    What a funny guy.

    I remember when those idiots panic sold Tesla because he smoked a joint.

    Good lord. Robber barons never hit the bottle?

  7. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    This is Tony Shaw (whose older brother Ray told me to fuck off in 1979) in the Hun, on the absolute farce that is the dissent rule – which the AFL has apparently yet to connect with crowd numbers going through the floor:

    I feel for the umpires. It’s not the umpires’ fault but it is embarrassing the umpires. They are getting more abuse because of it. We need to stabilise what is normal and figure it out with common sense. It is so frustrating for people.

    We don’t want to talk about umpires but we are because these decisions are so ludicrous and stupid. They are embarrassing for our game. This game is about competing but to think you can be one step off the mark and that costs you a 50m penalty and a goal, what has happened to our great competitive game. It is so dumb.

    The umpires are not the show. The players are the show. The benchmark of good umpiring is when they are not noticed.

    I love the game but when we open up talkback (on 3AW) it’s all people want to talk about. Imagine if this happens in a Grand Final. They will burn the grandstand down.

    Yes. Yes they will.

  8. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Is munty still boasting of being the only running dog lackey of the fascist establishment on this blog?

  9. calli Avatar
    calli

    I don’t think he knows what he wants to be BJ.

    His guys won and we don’t care. This is new territory and it’s a bit discombobulating.

  10. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    egg_says:
    May 23, 2022 at 10:20 pm
    anarchists

    Seems M0ntifa is a serial projector.

    Congratulations to who ever made up the title M0ntifa.

    WE have his great mates Antifa, then we have their groveling admirer M0ntifa, AKA munty the fascist.

  11. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    The Lieboral Party’s treatment of Bernie Finn is another indication that they deserved to lose on Saturday.

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  12. calli Avatar
    calli

    From the side bar:

    Kirralie Smith23h
    To every woman who voted @AustralianLabor don’t you dare complain when men are using your bathrooms, robbing you in sport and stealing your awards. You asked for it.

    They won’t care. But they will laugh when it happens to someone else.

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  13. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    One thing is for sure KD.
    We will have a no dissent rule in the Scoffers and Sneerers Party.
    Party motto … “No Riff Raff”.

  14. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Zali Steggall from neighbouring Warringah said in her victory speech on Saturday that she had wanted to see more smart, professional women in Canberra and “through the community movement” gender parity had been achieved.

    Well at least Zali acknowledges their are only two genders.

    Will the trans people & their media attack dogs be coming for her now?

  15. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Alternatively, Clive should challenge the validity of the territory senators, given he would be the main beneficiary.”

    You know, the less we hear of Clive Palmer the better. Palmer isn’t about being constructive, he’s only about being destructive. He’s motivated by personal enmity. Now whilst Holmes a Court is the same, look at what he achieved on Saturday night as opposed to Palmer. Oh and just watch Palmer go after Dutton. He hates Dutton with a passion because Dutton’s called him out.

    Palmer has always been disruptive whilst achieving nothing. Oh, I should clarify that, Palmer did gift us that bush pig who remains in the senate.

    Go away Clive.

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  16. calli Avatar
    calli

    When you’re constantly being told that you and all your family and friends are going to die because you’ve been jabbed and how stupid you are, it’s hard to work out exactly who is sneering and scoffing.

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  17. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    I had noticed the same thing with china. They have no value of life except their own. A few hundred thousand dead testing biological weapons is nothing to them. Its in the realms of conspiracy theory but with the chinese nothing is a theory, just a new way of control.

  18. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Lawn Tennis Assoc. bans Russians from Wimbledon.

    ATP strips the tournament of rankings points.

    Well played!

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  19. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh great, our eSafety commissioner, a lady named Julie Inman Grant, appears to be an Orwellian fascist, and that’s even before the new regime gets going.

    Freedom Of Speech Needs “Recalibration” – Aussie Commissioner Sparks Outrage At WEF (24 May)

    Presumably this creature was sent to the WEF by the Libs, which says everything needing to be said about the Libs.

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  20. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    So Thancho, there will be no scoffing and sneering in the Scoffer and Sneering Party.

  21. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    Summary capital punishment

    Russia does not do this. Even China does not do this. Even the Spanish Inquisition did not do this. You at least get a hearing before the state executes you.

    Where is Amnesty International on this? Are they anything but pure partisanship anymore?

  22. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    it’s hard to work out exactly who is sneering and scoffing.

    It’s me.
    And only me.
    The original and the best Scoffer/Sneerer.
    Beware of imitations.

  23. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Rogersays:

    May 24, 2022 at 7:42 am

    Lawn Tennis Assoc. bans Russians from Wimbledon.

    ATP strips the tournament of rankings points.

    Well played!

    Backhand return down the line for a winner!

  24. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “The Lieboral Party’s treatment of Bernie Finn is another indication that they deserved to lose on Saturday.”

    Correct…oh and isn’t today Bernie Finn expulsion day?

  25. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Freedom Of Speech Needs “Recalibration” – Aussie Commissioner Sparks Outrage At WEF (24 May)

    How appropriate that Australia should lecture the world on the “recalibration” of free speech, a right we’ve led the free world in curtailing.

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  26. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    GreyRangasays:

    May 24, 2022 at 7:44 am

    So Thancho, there will be no scoffing and sneering in the Scoffer and Sneering Party

    We exist to Scoff and Sneer at other parties.
    Internal scoffing and sneering will not be tolerated.
    Especially if it is directed at the Party Leader for Life.

  27. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    m0ntysays:
    May 23, 2022 at 10:26 pm
    That is a stunningly stupid assertion. It confuses conventionalism with conservatism.

    How can one conserve something that does not exist any more, db?

    Much as I hate to admit it, munty does have a point.

    The institutions that we wish to conserve no longer exist in recognisable form. Schools no longer graduate a high proportion of literate and numerate young adults. Universities have become, in many faculties, propaganda organisations that would have made Goebbels proud. Their ABC no longer even attempts to provide an honest, unbiased, news and commentary, but is the ultimate propaganda organisation.

    Rather that waste effort on trying to restore the unrestorable (like trying to recover the old “Blue Ribbon” seats from the Doctors’ Wives), it is time to start on the task of constructing new institutions which are suitable for genuine progress, as different to tools of political “Progressivism” (AKA fascist leftism).

    The first step is to starve the old, corrupted, institutions. To misquote Chairman Mao, “A hundred billion dollars is too much. Seize the Budget, starve the corrupt”. Then re-build, from the ground up.

  28. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Seems our eSafety Commissioner is a swamp creature from Washington, District of Corruption.
    Couldn’t we get a home grown one?

  29. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    The Teals are merely Greens with a property portfolio.

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  30. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    OK I voted UAP on Saturday.

    In my electorate UAP got 6.9% apparently. PHON got 5.2%. I wonder how many of those UAP votes would have gone to PHON if UAP hadn’t been running?

    The Apparatchik got 25939 votes.
    Liberal + UAP + PHON got 26876 votes
    but then the Filth got 5917 votes that would have pushed the apparatchik over the line.

  31. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    miltonfsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 8:22 am

    OK I voted UAP on Saturday

    Gasp!
    Standby for some incoming scoffing and sneering.

  32. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    I notice ‘the new lieborals’ were hanging around too. Were they for real or just some astroturfing?

  33. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Seems our eSafety Commissioner is a swamp creature from Washington, District of Corruption.
    Couldn’t we get a home grown one?

    The Australian public sector has always been a shallow talent pool.

  34. Vicki Avatar

    Just saw an interesting incident on Ch 9 Breakfast ( husband insists on watching!). Nick Coatsworth was discussing the dreaded Monkey Pox & wasn’t bad at all saying it was a negligible threat to the community etc. He then confessed he & his family had gone down with the normal flu. Aly gave him heaps & chided him for not being vaccinated against the flu – which he confessed he had not had due to work pressure.

    But then an amazing development – Karl Stephanovic went into a rant. He said he was over with vaccines, & refused to have any more. Instantly the producer cut to a commercial! One of the ensuing commercials was for a well known chain of pharmacies advertising the administration of jabs!

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  35. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    The new lieborals seem to a bit of a Sydney family affair- interesting that their tentacles reached all the way down to western Melbourne.

  36. Carpe Jugulum Avatar
    Carpe Jugulum

    Lawn Tennis Assoc. bans Russians from Wimbledon.

    ATP strips the tournament of rankings points.

    Well played!

    Indeed

    This reduces it to little more than a series of highly paid exhibition matches

  37. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Strictly no bogans.

    There will be Woodstock cans though right?

  38. Bluey Avatar
    Bluey

    Boambee Johnsays:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:04 am
    m0ntysays:
    May 23, 2022 at 10:26 pm
    That is a stunningly stupid assertion. It confuses conventionalism with conservatism.

    How can one conserve something that does not exist any more, db?

    Much as I hate to admit it, munty does have a point.

    The institutions that we wish to conserve no longer exist in recognisable form. Schools no longer graduate a high proportion of literate and numerate young adults. Universities have become, in many faculties, propaganda organisations that would have made Goebbels proud. Their ABC no longer even attempts to provide an honest, unbiased, news and commentary, but is the ultimate propaganda organisation.

    Rather that waste effort on trying to restore the unrestorable (like trying to recover the old “Blue Ribbon” seats from the Doctors’ Wives), it is time to start on the task of constructing new institutions which are suitable for genuine progress, as different to tools of political “Progressivism” (AKA fascist leftism).

    The first step is to starve the old, corrupted, institutions. To misquote Chairman Mao, “A hundred billion dollars is too much. Seize the Budget, starve the corrupt”. Then re-build, from the ground up.

    This is exactly why there has been the rise of the so called alt right. Conservatives have failed to even conserve women’s toilet spaces for women. I have very much come around to rejecting the idea of compromise with the likes of monty. It’s never enough, there’s always more and more you have to sacrifice, while they give up very little, if anything.

    Stuff that. Make them squeal. The suggestion a while ago of shutting off power etc. to greens electorates? Yes. Make them live to their so called principles. Fight against the perverted, ugly society being created. Shine a light on the cockroaches grooming kids under the guise of “LGBTI+” acceptance. Do all the things they fear because they know what they do is ultimately destroying civilization. Ron Desantis shows the way, but I don’t think he’ll go far enough in the end.

    No mercy, no compromise, no forgiveness.

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  39. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    The new lieborals seem to a bit of a Sydney family affair- interesting that their tentacles reached all the way down to western Melbourne.

    They fielded 6 senate candidates in QLD. Didn’t do very well. I note their colour is teal.

  40. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Seems our eSafety Commissioner is a swamp creature from Washington, District of Corruption.
    Couldn’t we get a home grown one?

    yes I would have thought Canbra would be full of ‘suitably qualified’ femocrats.

  41. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Apparently Karl a couple of months ago on TV said he was triple jabbed but not getting any more.

    Need more like him to say so.

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  42. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Nick Coatsworth was discussing the dreaded Monkey Pox & wasn’t bad at all saying it was a negligible threat to the community etc.

    Implying that monkey pox mainly affects gay men who have sex with other gay men will get him cancelled if he doesn’t watch out.

    Monkeypox Outbreak Primarily Spreading Via Sexual Contact: WHO Officials (24 May)

    The virus itself is not a sexually transmitted infection, but WHO officials said the recent surge in cases is linked to homosexual men. However, they said that anyone can contract monkeypox, which is generally confined to Central and West Africa.

    Don Surber: Highlights of the News (23 May)

    The Sun reported, “Monkeypox outbreak explodes across Europe as cases in Spain and Italy traced to island festival with 80,000 revelers.”

    It was a gay pride festival.

    Going to be hard for the alphabet agencies to spin this one into the next emergency.

  43. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    This reduces it to little more than a series of highly paid exhibition matches

    So the ATP would have you believe. I’m not so sure.

  44. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    I have very much come around to rejecting the idea of compromise with the likes of monty.

    Most of the left aren’t interested in debate and winning arguments. That’s my experience. I have one lefty friend I have interesting discussions with and sometimes we just agree to disagree.

  45. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Implying that monkey pox mainly affects gay men who have sex with other gay men will get him cancelled if he doesn’t watch out.

    As I’ve reported here previously, a cohort of his colleagues have already had a go at cancelling Coatsworth professionally.

    The relevant medical college said he had no case to answer.

    Perhaps we need to further “recalibrate” free speech?

  46. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    That is idiotic in the extreme.

    what you see and hear is only the surface

    just the retarded repetition of their foundational myths

    history shows us that the idiot-density-function goes to negative infinity

  47. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Sussmann Trial Week 2: It Was Hillary, In the Back Room, With the Chardonnay Bottle

    “The institutions of the DOJ, FBI, and CIA and a special counsel appointment were put in the service of Hillary Clinton, undermining their reputations just to look good for the boss. Absolute treachery.”

  48. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bearsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 8:38 am

    Strictly no bogans.

    There will be Woodstock cans though right?

    Err, no.
    The only cans will be Belvga.
    We will not be chasing the voters.
    On the contrary, we will create an atmosphere of exclusivity which will make people desparate to join. We will not lining up with the desparados in ill-fitting campaign t-shirts and thrusting HTV cards in their face. We will have marquee at every voting centre, complete with a door bitch and a velvet roped off entrance, and always keeping half a dozen hopefuls in the queue. Sounds of clinking glasses and laughter will be heard from inside. Every so often an attractive young lady will emerge clutching one of our leather-bound HTV compendiums.

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daily Mail.

    Wild moment vegan activist refuses a police demand to put her top on because she won’t follow ‘sexist requests’ during topless protest

    Vegan activist slammed officers as ‘sexist’ after they asked her to put a top on
    Tash Peterson had been protesting outside Nike store at Perth’s Hay Street Mall
    She was asked to conceal her bare chest which was covered only with pink paint
    Protester told cops she didn’t abide by ‘sexist requests’ and refused to cover up

  50. Bluey Avatar
    Bluey

    miltonfsays:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:46 am
    I have very much come around to rejecting the idea of compromise with the likes of monty.

    Most of the left aren’t interested in debate and winning arguments. That’s my experience. I have one lefty friend I have interesting discussions with and sometimes we just agree to disagree.

    Yes. Most of the left will not just leave you alone. You can agree to disagree, but once in power they’ll happily sacrifice you and yours for their goals. Quite happy for you to be the egg that gets broken on the way to the true utopia, because you deserve it anyway for disagreeing.

    It’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in a universal franchise. The vast majority of people, right or left, don’t give any sober consideration to what their vote enables.

  51. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Russia’s chief representative to the UN in Geneva has resigned in protest at the war in Ukraine, saying he didn’t enter the diplomatic service to be a propagandist.

    He’ll be well advised to wipe his door knobs before entering his house and be on the alert for men with umbrellas.

  52. Struth Avatar

    Good Moaning.
    Sancho, your hang ups are showing.
    Give it a rest.
    When the truth smashes you, going on about it doesn’t help your cause.

  53. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Episode 3 of “We Wuz Robbed” drops in 30 minutes.
    Stay tuned.

  54. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    UN expert predicts global food crisis may be 10 weeks away

    Engineered famines are a very Soviet thing. And it is engineered, with edible oil being use to replace expensive diesel especially in Indonesia, ethanol from maize being forced into cars to such an extent that there’s now a cornstarch shortage and Russia preventing Ukraine getting grain out of the country whilst Ukraine continues to allow gas from Russia to flow to the EU.

  55. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    It’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in a universal franchise. The vast majority of people, right or left, don’t give any sober consideration to what their vote enables.

    If you require a HTV card, perhaps you shouldn’t be voting.

  56. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Sancho Panzer at 8:54 – sounds like the Young Liberals.

  57. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    If you require a HTV card, perhaps you shouldn’t be voting.

    There is an interesting misconception that the parties allocate preferences.
    They provide guidance via a HTV but the voter determines the order of preferences on their individual ballot.
    What the parties hope for is solid HTV compliance.

  58. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Quite happy for you to be the egg that gets broken on the way to the true utopia, because you deserve it anyway for disagreeing.

    The Cowper greens candidate said as much. They are full of hate

  59. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bearsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 9:04 am

    Sancho Panzer at 8:54 – sounds like the Young Liberals

    (Average age 38).

  60. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    What It Means That ‘Hillary Clinton Did It’

    The Wall Street Journal ran a scathing editorial on May 20, called “Hillary Clinton Did It”.

    This editorial began:

    “The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 was a dirty trick for the ages — and now we know it came from the top — candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

    The editorial quickly explained:

    “That was the testimony Friday by 2016 Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook in federal court [in Washington, D.C.], and while this news is hardly a surprise, it’s still bracing to find her fingertips on the political weapon.”

    (Also not surprisingly, The May 20 print edition of The New York Times did not include a story on Mook’s testimony.)

    The concluding paragraphs of the editorial are worth quoting in full:

    In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered the claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true.

    Most of the press will ignore this news, but the Russia-Trump narrative that Mrs. Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country. It disgraced the FBI, humiliated the press, and sent the country on a three-year investigation to nowhere. Vladimir Putin never came close to doing as much disinformation damage.

    The harm done to the United States by the perfidy of the Clintonistas cannot be overemphasized.

    Never in the history of this Republic have so many citizens been so ill-served by so many “elitists” in government and the media.

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  61. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    ALPBC radio “News”. Monkeypox linked to rave parties.

    Ummm, OK. No more Spotify for me.

  62. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    St Ruth at 9:02.
    Are you suggesting a vax death?

  63. Struth Avatar

    Since March 2020, tell us where we haven’t been robbed, Sancho of the shitfabrains.

    Of course everything would be above board.
    In the world of the mental case.

  64. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bearsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 9:08 am

    ALPBC radio “News”. Monkeypox linked to rave parties.

    Yes.
    That’s it.
    That’s the name.
    I am going to register ‘The Rave Party’ with the AEC.

  65. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Engineered famines are a very Soviet thing. And it is engineered…

    More by stupidity than design though.

    A businessman gives an engineer a problem to solve in order to bring a replacement product to market that meets green regulations put in place by politicians. Along the way, nobody, least of all the politicians, considers the consequences of diverting supplies of edible oil or corn from the food supply until hungry and rightly angry people start marching in the streets and burning effigies of the politicians who are supposed to have their interests at the forefront of their minds. This is one reason why nationalism, including national food security, is back on the agenda.

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  66. Big_Nambas Avatar
    Big_Nambas

    From the Spectator Mag.
    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    The Liberals were warned (repeatedly), ‘Go Woke, Go Broke!’ If nothing else, this federal election served as a reckoning against the soggy, wet, gangrenous Liberals sitting in wealthy Sydney seats. The ‘we’re so much smarter than everyone else’ MPs who ran election campaigns that looked as if they were copied straight off the Climate 200 website lost en masse. The Sharmas, Zimmermans, and Frydenbergs.

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  67. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    NSW is facing a massive shortage of police recruits because potential trainees are forced to spend thousands of dollars just to apply for the job and even more once they begin training.

    Kevin Morton, the newly appointed head of the Police Association of NSW, said the situation was so critical, the next intake of new officers in June has been cancelled because there are not enough applicants willing to cough up around $17,000 to qualify.

    “We’re missing out on quality potential police officers in this state because people simply can’t afford the application process,” Mr Morton said in his address to the association’s conference in Wollongong.

    “As a result we’re staring down the barrel of a serious police shortage in this state in the very near future.”

    In a draft copy of his speech to be delivered today in front of the NSW Police Minister Paul Toole and Police Commissioner Karen Webb have called for a total overhaul of the way police trainees are being charged to become cops.

    “NSW is the only jurisdiction in the country, and perhaps the world, where potential police have to fork out thousands of dollars and spend months of their lives training just to apply to be in the police force,” Mr Morton will say.

    “There’s not even a guarantee of a job at the end of it, so it’s no wonder people aren’t applying. We should be looking to attract the best and brightest, not just those who can afford it. You shouldn’t have to choose between paying your mortgage and looking after your family or joining the police.”

    Before applying to become a NSW police officer, potential recruits are required to obtain a University Certificate in workplace essentials from Charles Sturt University costing $1728 if paid in advance or $2160 if incurred as a student loan payable through HECS.

    They are then forced to pay around $15,000 plus board while they undertake the nine-month training course at the Goulburn Police Academy.

    Many senior police and association members say the procedure is also putting off older people with life experience from applying, even those in their mid 20s.

    “You’ve got cops going through the application process who are forced to live away from their families and live under quite strict rules, which can include not leaving the training facilities, and they’re not even getting paid for it – in fact, they’re paying out of their life savings to do it,” Mr Morton said.

    “The system in NSW is set up to effectively block anyone who doesn’t have a lot of savings or responsibilities from entering the police. We should be encouraging people with life experience into the job, not discouraging them.”

    Daily Telegraph

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  68. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Yes, yes, we’ve all been robbed to various degrees.
    But I tell you who wasn’t robbed.
    Fat Cloive.
    Ran a shit campaign with B-Grade candidates and adjudged as untrustworthy by the electorate.

  69. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    What the parties hope for is solid HTV compliance.

    Which they tend to get from masses of voters who just want to get voting over as painlessly as possible.

  70. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Every single press report about Erin Jayne’s death uses the word suddenly in inverted commas.
    Copy/paste of the media release, or code for suicide?
    Incidentally, a lot of reportage of suicides now uses the phrase died of suicide rather than committed suicide.
    I’m not sure the gentler phrasing is turning people away from the idea. Yet another local went off North Head last weekend and left young kids behind. Outwardly full of infectious fun and laughter, but…….

  71. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    The Wall Street Journal ran a scathing editorial on May 20, called “Hillary Clinton Did It”.

    In the drawing room with a dagger?

    But seriously…

  72. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Fat Cloive.
    Ran a shit campaign with B-Grade candidates and adjudged as untrustworthy by the electorate.

    True, BUT that did give us malcontents another voting option if we wanted it.
    For example, if you wanted to vote below the line in the Senate, his people made it easier to get to the minimum of 12 votes.

  73. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    OSC.
    From one of the reports …

    The notice was concluded with the phone number for 24 hour crisis support and suicide prevention service, Lifeline. 

    But let’s not jump conclusions.
    Let’s wait for Coroner St Ruth’s final report.
    “But what else was I supposed to conclude?”

  74. Struth Avatar

    More by stupidity than design though.

    A businessman gives an engineer a problem to solve in order to bring a replacement product to market that meets green regulations put in place by politicians. Along the way, nobody, least of all the politicians, considers the consequences of diverting supplies of edible oil or corn from the food supply until hungry and rightly angry people start marching in the streets and burning effigies of the politicians who are supposed to have their interests at the forefront of their minds. This is one reason why nationalism, including national food security, is back on the agenda.

    This is your analysis after what you have been presented with in the last two years and how they keep over a billion people under control in China?

    It’s communist engineered, the whole fucking lot of it.

  75. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Yes North Head always seemed a rather sinister place when I was a kid. Very bad vibes.

  76. Struth Avatar

    The notice was concluded with the phone number for 24 hour crisis support and suicide prevention service, Lifeline.

    But let’s not jump conclusions.

    But lets believe what we are told!

    It was the Salmon Mousse!

  77. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    OSC at 9:18.
    So UAP is sort of like the electoral equivalent of a cheap Christmas stocking filler?

  78. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Inspector Struth says there are always suspicious circumstances.

  79. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Well it was UAP or PHON. LDP seems to have gone nowhere.

  80. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    I was complaining about the upcoming plastic straw ban in NSW… A friend (who has a food truck) informs me he just binned several boxes of plastic straws (10,000 straws per box) as a result.

    That’ll save the turtles!

  81. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Sancho, in my bitterness and cynicism towards all politicians these days, you could give me any negative description about them and I’d agree.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    That’ll save the turtles!

    But satin bower birds will be unhappy. Blue plastic straws have long been essential bling for attracting the ladies.

  83. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    JC says: May 24, 2022 at 3:41 am

    I wouldn’t worry about this government much at least on the economic side. They’re constrained by the enormous debt level

    What JC thinks the situation is: https://i.imgflip.com/6h94xf.jpg

    What the situation probably is: https://i.imgflip.com/6h94o4.jpg

  84. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    But satin bower birds will be unhappy. Blue plastic straws have long been essential bling for attracting the ladies.

    Probably how that turtle got the straw up its nose in the first place. Raiding bird nests. LOL.

    Anyway, aside from stocking up on plastic straws to take with me, what alternative is there here? Stainless steel and other reusable straws don’t seem sanitary.

  85. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Stefanovic has had as many covid vaxxs as he’s eligible for.
    Boy who cried wolf.
    Still a good reminder that I haven’t gotten a flu vax, something to do tomorrow, and enquire as to whether a covid booster pre possible Japan trip would be prudent.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Regarding Indigenous representation in the new Senate – how long has Jacquie Lambie claimed indigenous ancestors?

  87. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Incidentally, a lot of reportage of suicides now uses the phrase died of suicide rather than committed suicide.

    Its very contagious.

    We need a vaccine.

  88. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Thancho if you’ll have me as a member of the SaSP its not a party I want to belong to unless you serve vol-au-vent instead of those discusting party pies. Also only vintage Champers. Definitely no Pablo or 43 something, that’s only for common plebs. Standards have to be kept.

  89. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Vol au vents are fine. Provided they are served ironically.

  90. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    OSC politicians see those negatives as positives because they don’t want to appeal to the likes of you who recognises failure for what it is.

  91. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Bear does ironically mean served by scantily clad young women?

  92. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    The Giraffe has finally become a unit of potential destruction.

  93. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    It was the Salmon Mousse!

    Well, what else would you have concluded?

  94. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    miltonfsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 9:26 am

    Well it was UAP or PHON. LDP seems to have gone nowhere.

    I went LDP more to send a message about which party best reflected my views.
    LNP was first among the majors.
    I wasn’t handing my vote to the ALP or Greens by default.

  95. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    The best part of Branco is Biden’s persistently blank thought bubble.

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    19 minutes ago
    Morrisons let pool cleaner live in their home
    Alexandra Middleton
    ALEXANDRA MIDDLETON

    Outgoing prime minister Scott Morrison and wife Jenny offered up their Sutherland Shire home to their former pool cleaner after her Woodburn property was destroyed in the NSW floods.

    Nikki Durant, who used to clean the Morrisons’ pool, told Nine News she called Ms Morrison to “ask for help” and said she could stay there “until election time”.

    “I made the call and here I am, so I didn’t have to think about it too much more, because Jenny opened the door to me and I came here,” she said.

    “She said you’ve got until election time, so, here I am.”

    Ms Durant – who had only met Ms Morrison a handful of times – moved into the Morrison family home with her two sons earlier this year, rent free, when her house in the Northern Rivers was left “unliveable” after it was submerged in floodwaters.

    “I would have been stuck, I had nowhere to go,” she said.

    While Ms Durant hasn’t met Scott Morrison, she said “Jenny (was) just gorgeous”.

    Ms Durant and her family are preparing to move back to Woodburn while the Morrisons pack up their things at Kirribilli House and return to their home in the Sutherland Shire

  97. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    GreyRangasays:

    May 24, 2022 at 10:00 am

    Thancho if you’ll have me as a member of the SaSP its not a party I want to belong to unless you serve vol-au-vent instead of those discusting party pies

    Ranga, all our nibbles will have classy French names.
    Vol-au-vents, Boeuf Bourguignon, Quiche Lorraine, Potatoes Dauphinoise, Crepe Suzanne, Coup d’tart, the lot.

  98. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    LDP seems to have gone nowhere.

    ? really. Their vote doubled nationally by my reading of the numbers and was stronger in lockdown-happy states. NT was a huge showing

    First preferences by Senate group

    National 2.19%, swing +1.03%
    NSW 2.04%, +0.13%
    Vic 2.40%, +1.44%
    Qld 2.37%, +1.54%
    WA 1.93%, +1.21%
    SA 2.21%, +1.54 %
    Tas 1.97%, +1.29%
    NT 8.63%, +8.63

  99. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Boambee Johnsays:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:04 am

    Excellent post, BJ.

    My thoughts exactly.

  100. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Their vote doubled nationally by my reading of the numbers and was stronger in lockdown-happy states. NT was a huge showing

    The NT LDP candidate was the former liberal senator who lost preselection to Jacinta Price.

  101. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Blueysays:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:41 am

    An excellent reply to BJ’s post.

  102. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    And this ladies and gentlemen represents everything wrong with the Liberal Party…

    Bernie Finn has been expelled from the Victorian Liberal party.

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  103. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Libs are probably still dazed by wave that crashed down upon them – it is one thing to see it coming but you are never quite ready for what hits you, I suppose.

    So, are we going to run book on the next leader?

  104. Bluey Avatar
    Bluey

    Delta Asays:
    May 24, 2022 at 10:39 am
    Blueysays:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:41 am

    An excellent reply to BJ’s post.

    Thank you. Unfortunately, like dealing with naughty children, unless we get a right wing party that does those things I don’t see a bright future for the country. Trump showed the way, but at the end of the day he is a 90’s moderate left guy. Most of the western world need someone far more ruthless, backed by a party willing to support them.

  105. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Libs are probably still dazed by wave that crashed down upon them – it is one thing to see it coming but you are never quite ready for what hits you, I suppose.

    Much consternation expressed in the local rag today by local LNP nabobs and pundits after their Morrison preferred vanilla candidate managed to halve their 20.5% margin in his first general election.

  106. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    So, are we going to run book on the next leader?

    Not much doubt I would think. Perhaps will they ever have a primary vote beginning with a “4”?

  107. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Compulsory preferential voting working well for the Liars. Not so well for the Lieborals.

  108. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Regarding Indigenous representation in the new Senate – how long has Jacquie Lambie claimed indigenous ancestors?

    You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if she does have indigenous ancestry.

    Her problem appears to be that she hails from the wrong side of the track, so to speak.

    Indigenous identity in Tasmania is reportedly jealously guarded by the gate keepers, for obvious reasons.

  109. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Scomo’s asset last time was not being Trumble and not being Shorten, so he pulled off a surprise victory.

    This time Scomo’s liability was being Scomo.

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  110. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Yes, yes, the salmon mousse.

    Said it before – it’s an identical level of stupid and agenda-pushing from those classifying every death as ‘from’ rather than ‘with covid, to those frantically square-pegging every death to ’caused by Klausvax’ (which, by the way, was and remains a shit, worthless, counterproductive idea).

    No no. Don’t look at the Death Camps screamed about for months, and when people said this exact phrase:

    They will kill us all, and those who survive will wish they were dead.

    And which whimpered out with:

    Well what else would you have concluded.

    Don’t look there. That’s so February. Look over here, with unproven allegations of unspecified evilness by unspecified people which stole an election from The People, committed in an unspecified manner.

    Don’t ask for details. You people would be too stupid to understand. Now, if you don’t mind, I’ve got to go wash my corpulence with this rag on a stick.

  111. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    It’s a funny old world when the unemployment rate is at a 48 year low but the government gets punted.
    Not that the low unemployment was accomplished by the ScoMo goat rodeo – it was an inadvertent consequence of the temporary suspension of the population Ponzi scheme. Expect normal service to be resumed under the Rub and Tug Man goat rodeo.
    Nor am I in any way suggesting that the ScoMo goat rodeo deserved to retain office. Just pointing out that things were, in some respects, less bad than they often are when a government gets returned.

  112. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    This time Scomo’s liability was being Scomo.

    Australians were so sick of SloMo they elected Elbow PM.

  113. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I was going to write a wordwall to my local state member about Bernie Finn, but I decided to go with:-

    “Looks like you just expelled me as a voter.”

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  114. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Expect normal service to be resumed under the Rub and Tug Man goat rodeo.

    Elbow was actually questioning the Ponzi during the election.

    Time will soon tell if it was a scripted response to focus group concerns or a trial balloon to test an upcoming policy reform.

  115. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Just got back from Woolies buying some milk.
    Saw the front page of the Toowoomba birdcage liner (The Chronicle). The local LNP are dismayed that for the first time in a long, long time they didn’t get in on first preferences and had to go to preferences. One of the party apparatchiks puts it down to going with net zero. Could also be due to the local idiot member going with a bunch of chickenshit local projects as evidence of his success in office. These are local government issues, State at most.

  116. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Doesn’t everyone keep a folded giraffe in their back pocket, its better than the crocodile I used to have. The utter stupidity of Nasa using such a ridiculous unit of measurement is reason enough to sack the lot of them. At least a lot of them will know how to code, but do they know how many bytes in a wombat? These people should be ridiculed for ever.

  117. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    I was going to write a wordwall to my local state member about Bernie Finn, but I decided to go with:-

    “Looks like you just expelled me as a voter.”

    glad I walked in 2017- should have done so much sooner

  118. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Headline appearing in the online Hun, apropos of AFLW ladyscissorers and which got my attention:

    The coathanger that started Tayla Harris’ love with Tiger

    The piece was not as advertised.

  119. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    2017 iirc was the year the Trumble junta deported an American anti abortion guy.

  120. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Re LDP- was anyone actually elected on Saturday?

  121. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    Rogersays:
    May 24, 2022 at 11:15 am

    Interesting. But I’ll believe that Labor has gone cold turkey on importing voteherds when they actually do it.

  122. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Doesn’t everyone keep a folded giraffe in their back pocket, its better than the crocodile I used to have. The utter stupidity of Nasa using such a ridiculous unit of measurement is reason enough to sack the lot of them.

    WTF? Is this refence to an earlier post I missed?

  123. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    maybe 2016

  124. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Bernie Finn has been expelled from the Victorian Liberal party.

    But not Turnbull or Hewson.

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  125. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Surely Dr Bland isn’t still a member?

  126. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Said it before – it’s an identical level of stupid and agenda-pushing from those classifying every death as ‘from’ rather than ‘with covid, to those frantically square-pegging every death to ’caused by Klausvax’ (which, by the way, was and remains a shit, worthless, counterproductive idea).

    Pretty ghoulish, eh?
    Scouring the news websites looking for premature deaths that he can gleefully assign to The Cause.

  127. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    OK found the reference. Was it NASA or the Accuweather dick using that unit of measurement? Shades of the ABC and it’s mass unit of African elephants and Olympic swimming pools or Sydney Harbours for volume. I had to look up the average mass of African elephants in kilograms.

  128. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Heard Gary Hardgrave on the radio this morning. What a sensible man. Gave the SFL a good whack. To be honest I never paid attention to him in the past. Apparently he’s on Sky late. You can see how the SFL lost their way when someone like him is let go.

  129. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Elbow was actually questioning the Ponzi during the election.

    Time will soon tell if it was a scripted response to focus group concerns or a trial balloon to test an upcoming policy reform.

    Wait till Treasury gets in Jim’s ear.

  130. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Scouring the news websites

    A generous assessment of those particular websites.

  131. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Lotocoti, Giraffe, @10:12 heard it on the news this morning as well.

  132. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    But I’ll believe that Labor has gone cold turkey on importing voteherds when they actually do it.

    Perhaps they’ve realised that man in the voteherd actually aren’t all that keen on Labor’s social policies?

  133. Colonel Crispin Berka Avatar
    Colonel Crispin Berka

    Lauterbach said the G-7 also agreed to better protect the global population from the health impacts of global warming, including by making adaptation to climate change part of medical training.

    Mmm. And where in your body do you feel this global warming happening?
    Does the globe warm when I press here? No? How about here?
    😀

  134. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Wait till Treasury gets in Jim’s ear.

    He’s probably getting the briefing today.

    “Cut back immigration? Upskill the locals? Very courageous, Treasurer!”

  135. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    Perhaps they’ve realised that man[y] in the voteherd actually aren’t all that keen on Labor’s social policies?

    Could be. Though as can be seen with Bernie Finn they’d actually be perfectly safe relying on the Liberals to hand them those voters back on a silver platter.

  136. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Further to the Accuweather article it has been my understanding for a long time that an ocean impact of a large asteroid would be far worse than a land impact. See Messrs Pournelle and Niven.
    The Chelyabinsk event was 65 feet in diameter and yielded 0.5 megatonnes. The 350 giraffes would be around 365 Gigatonnes yield as a first cut and I suspect it would make it through the atmosphere intact.
    Yeah, truly a big deal.

  137. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    I was going to write a wordwall to my local state member about Bernie Finn, but I decided to go with:-

    “Looks like you just expelled me as a voter.”

    I sent the same to headquarters and added “Get back to me when you have recommitted to the concept of free speech.”

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  138. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    The LNP lost because the libs went too far left especially on global warming; the primary vote of the ALP was the lowest ever because they didn’t go left far enough.

    Global warming is the biggest scam ever. It should have ended in 2007 when the Judgment in the Al Gore movie An Inconvenient Truth case was handed down by the English HC. The science in Gore’s movie to do with the alleged consequences of global warming were tested by the best scientists in the world including Australia’s Bob Carter who acted for the parent objecting to Gore’s movie being shown in schools as part of the science syllabus. Carter was a true dirt under the fingernails type of scientist who helped show none of the so-called consequences of global warming depicted in Gore’s movie – polar bears, rising seas, snow and the big one: humans emitting all the increase in CO2 which resulted in global temp increase – existed or if they did were inconsequential and/or not attributable to global warming.

    The lead scientist for Al Gore, Peter Stott is a computer expert who adjusts climate data, a complete contrast to Carter.

    The irony is the Judge, Michael Burton accepted the official IPCC view about Global Warming but determined that Gore’s movie’s claims were not consistent with the science of the IPCC and rejected all of his 9 consequences.

    Of course this Judgment has been ignored or lied about by the alarmists. This confirms again that alarmism is not about reasonable discourse, evidence or common sense; it’s a belief system which people are making money from and the communists in the UN are using to undermine the West. In addition the media and rich bastards are on board.

    Stock up on candles folks.

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  139. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Riding back from shopping in Fairfield this morning and it occured to me .. I haven’t seen a plod on foot since lockdown/masks were scrapped .. now I ride 3 to 400 kms a week around Fairfield/Liverpool/Blacktown areas so it would appear that taking the pepperspray for a toddle ain’t much fun when you can’t use it on little old ladies and mums wiv bubs .. LOL!

  140. Struth Avatar

    Can the brain dead here work out what tense the word “will” aludes to?

    In this sentence.
    “It will happen”.
    Have a go, see what you can work out.
    Even Vicplod level educated should be able to have a crack.
    For ages 5 and over.

    Scouring the internet?
    Every morning I get at least ten emails from CHRISTIAN news services , with reports from the thousands of doctors screaming about this, like Robert Malone and Peter Mc Cullough and the actual experts on these killer jabs.
    Silenced by Socialists.
    You continue to listen to Koshie.
    I would If I were you.
    The truth about your stupidity and it causing your premature death through lack of moral conviction would be hard to take….I get that.
    tick, tick, tick……

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  141. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    The LNP lost because the libs went too far left especially on global warming; the primary vote of the ALP was the lowest ever because they didn’t go left far enough.

    Fun fact: .. the only “houso” I have ever heard mention “gerbil werming/climate change is AnAl .. LOL!

  142. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Jonathan Coleman brown bread.
    I will not speculate, but, you know …

  143. Struth Avatar

    Where’s the human pin cushion for McGowan?

    He should be in by now to dribble relentless shit.
    It’s not as if he does anything at work.

  144. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    It’s not as if he does anything at work.

    And what has your workday been like so far?

  145. Struth Avatar

    Yeah, Sancho.
    A lot of premature deaths being reported.
    NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

    IT’S THE SALMON MOUSSE.

  146. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Liberal apparatchik on the radio saying they need to return to their roots and become the party of enterprise: “Renewable energy presents great opportunities for Australia.”

  147. m0nty Avatar

    Re LDP- was anyone actually elected on Saturday?

    No. Also no one elected from Conservative Nationals, Rise Up Australia, Christian Democratic Party, Great Australian Party, Involuntary Medication Objectors, Citizens Electoral Council, Love Australia or Leave or Australian Liberty Alliance.

  148. Struth Avatar

    All these excess deaths AFTER THE JAB came out.
    And it’s just the start.
    Lots of these coming out now.

    IGNORE IT.

  149. m0nty Avatar

    He should be in by now to dribble relentless shit.
    It’s not as if he does anything at work.

    Says… Struth.

  150. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Umm, Coleman died of prostate cancer.
    Diagnosed 4 (four) years ago.
    Boy, you got to hand it to the GloBaLists. Setting up alibis for their vax murders four years in advance.
    Although the CHRISTIAN websites might tell a different story.

  151. Struth Avatar

    And what has your workday been like so far?

    So what, are you retired, on the dole, which is it with you, Sliplane?
    I’m here less than you.

  152. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    IGNORE IT

    Oh, OK.

  153. Struth Avatar

    Did he?
    How do you know?

  154. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    From The Oz…

    Expelled Lib MP says he ‘won’t be bullied’
    Rachel Baxendale

    Expelled Liberal MP Bernie Finn says he will “not be bullied by (Opposition Leader) Matthew Guy”, vowing to recontest the November state election.

    Mr Finn said he had not yet decided whether he would attempt to form his own party, join another conservative minor party, or even recontest Liberal preselection given his expulsion is from the parliamentary party and the organisational wing.

    “We’ve found out a lot about a lot of people this week, and there are some lessons that I think we will remember in November,” Mr Finn said.

    “What we have seen today is a statement from the leader of our party that the party that I joined over 41 years ago, is dead.

    “The party of Menzies and Howard is no more. Not in Victoria. Used to be the jewel of the Liberal crown, here in Victoria, but it doesn’t exist anymore. The party of Bolte, the party of Kennett, gone, gone, doesn’t exist anymore.

    “If you hold a view opposite or different to the leader in this party, you run the risk of expulsion.

    “Just as I will not be bullied by Daniel Andrews, I will not be bullied by Matthew Guy either, so let us go forward and let us form a new movement if we must, if that’s what’s needed.”

    Mr Finn said it was too early to say whether he would form his own party.

    “Look, in politics in 2022, after what happened on Saturday, anything is possible, so let’s just see what happens. But as I said before I’m certainly not going to be bailing out of politics anytime soon, and the views that I hold are views that are held by a lot of people,” he said.

    Mr Finn said he understood some members of the Liberal partyroom had voted in his favour against the expulsion motion, but he could not say how many.

    “There were a number who spoke in my favour, in favour of keeping me, so I thank them, but there’s been a fair effort put in by a number of front benchers to get rid of me,” he said.

    He said he had been approached by “six or seven” parties and asked to join, but had thus far declined the invitation.

    “But that’s obviously something that I may have to reconsider,” Mr Finn said.

    Asked which parties, he named the Liberal Democrats, but declined to go further “because there might be people who might not want me to do that.”

    Asked whether there was a chance he would join a party and sit with that party within the upper house before the next election, Mr Finn said: “That’s a possibility. That’s a possibility. As I say it’s something that’s just happened less than an hour ago, so I haven’t really given it the degree of thought that it needs.”

    Asked whether he would recontest Liberal preselection, Mr Finn said: “That’s an interesting thought. I can, because I’m still a member of the Liberal Party.”

    “That’s something that I might consider, because the reason that this has been done, the way it’s been done, is because those who wish to remove me from the party, know that I would probably win preselection. So that’s something that I may well like to consider,” he said.

    “I’ve got to tell you, I was seriously thinking about retiring at this election, very seriously thinking about it, and this has given me a new lease on life, so thank you Matthew Guy.”

  155. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Fleeced

    Stainless steel and other reusable straws don’t seem sanitary.

    Rigid items like stainless steel are dangerous. Don’t you remember your mother telling you not to run with that pencil in your mouth?

  156. Struth Avatar

    You must have known the fatty, (not Monty) Coleman personally, and since you like to abuse overweight people, Sancho, I point my sickle at you and proclaim death by mean words towards fatties.

  157. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    The 350 giraffes would be around 365 Gigatonnes yield as a first cut and I suspect it would make it through the atmosphere intact.
    Yeah, truly a big deal.

    who would have thought a terminal velocity space giraffe is almost one gigatonne of impact energy?

    The things you learn.

  158. Struth Avatar

    Give me a bit of good news Monty.
    How many jabs have you had?

  159. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    May 24, 2022 at 10:42 am

    And this ladies and gentlemen represents everything wrong with the Liberal Party…

    Bernie Finn has been expelled from the Victorian Liberal party.

    I don’t know much about the Victorian Liberals, I wouldn’t recognise Matthew Guy if I bumped into him in the street, but I do know Bernie Finn from quite a few YouTubes. He’s a very accomplished parliamentarian and seems like a decent and sensible bloke, the Victorian Liberals should have elected him as their leader rather than sacking him.

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  160. Struth Avatar

    Oh, so now fuckstick Liberals want to start new parties.
    Fuck the lot of them.

  161. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Struthsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    Did he?
    How do you know?

    I read it on a CHRISTIAN website.
    I can’t recall which one.
    Too many open tabs.
    Not enough sleep.

  162. Struth Avatar

    Emailing…emailing….where are you choo choo?….tell me you’re not dead, that arsehole Struth will have a field day….get in here quick.

  163. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Struthsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 12:15 pm

    You must have known the fatty, (not Monty) Coleman personally, and since you like to abuse overweight people,

    No, not all.
    Just Fat Cloive and the Meatloaf tribute act guy from Hervey Bay.

  164. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Expelled Lib MP says he ‘won’t be bullied’

    This is the problem with “broad churches”, whether ecclesiastical or political; they become full of milksops who can’t tolerate people with strong principles. The latter are deemed “divisive”and must either keep silent or be expelled from their midst for disturbing their peace, which is the peace of those who’ve never fought for anything in their lives.

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  165. Struth Avatar

    Except you didn’t.
    Koshie told you, or maybe it was Simon Townsend, or Fat Cat……

  166. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Another electric car catches fire – this time with the driver locked inside:

    Firefighters in Vancouver, Canada, are investigating a car fire involving a Tesla after an electrical malfunction caused the vehicle doors to lock shut, trapping the driver inside as smoke began pouring in through vents. The driver kicked out a window to escape from Elon Musk’s electric vehicle.

    CTV News Vancouver reports that firefighters have launched an investigation into a recent Tesla fire in the Vancouver area. The driver, Jamil Jutha, was driving towards Mountain Highway in North Vancouver last Friday when his 2021 Tesla Model Y that he purchased within months of the incident suddenly shut down.

    and

    “Of course, there’s always going to be panic in a moment when you feel trapped,” he said. “I kicked through the window, climbed out and called 911 right away.” The car continued to burn with the fire making its way into the interior of the car, flames were seen shooting in the air as the fire department arrived.

    Chief Brian Hutchinson, with the District of North Vancouver Fire and Rescue Services, commented: “We’re very fortunate that this individual had the wherewithal and the strength to kick the window out.”

    Tesla Model Y vehicles do have a mechanical release handle but it is designed to be unobtrusive and look as if it is a plastic capping near the door and window control button.

    Nice to know that there is a mechanical door release button (carefully hidden) for when your car spontaneously combusts. That is the kind of information that provides a warm and cosy feeling when you are choosing a vehicle.

  167. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    If that Guy freak can expel Finn from the Libs, just imagine what he would be prepared to do to the average Victorian punter swimming against the ‘correct’ tide should he win government – which, in itself, is an impossibility. The mongrel will not be getting my vote.

  168. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Show us on the doll where globullshit touched you.

  169. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Nice to know that there is a mechanical door release button (carefully hidden) for when your car spontaneously combusts. That is the kind of information that provides a warm and cosy feeling when you are choosing a vehicle.

    Perhaps that’s why the dealer doesn’t tell you about it.

  170. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    If that Guy freak can expel Finn from the Libs, just imagine what he would be prepared to do to the average Victorian punter swimming against the ‘correct’ tide should he win government – which, in itself, is an impossibility. The mongrel will not be getting my vote.

    Look what the LNP did to the Christians in SA.

  171. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Also no one elected from … Christian Democratic Party

    CDP doesn’t exist anymore, Monty. Try to keep up.

    There was a bit of squabbling in-house and they went into receivership and were disbanded by the court. Fred Nile (yeah, he’s still alive) is too paranoid about potential successors stabbing him in the back, so the old dinosaur keeps stuffing things up. Though the cynic in me wonders if the Libs just didn’t need them anymore, with Optional Preferential now being a thing (they likely would have propped them up, otherwise).

    I do know a few religious types who didn’t know who to vote for without CDP or FF. Which is odd, because they were never that great.

    Anyway, LDP was always going to split the vote with Clive and Pauline, but the big surprise was the Legalise Cannabis party. They outpolled LDP significantly, despite it being a policy of LDP to legalise it.

    In Australia, personality politics or single issue is what gets you a senate gig. LDP might have to change strategy when they change their name.

  172. Winston Smith Avatar

    Wodger:

    A businessman gives an engineer a problem to solve in order to bring a replacement product to market that meets green regulations put in place by politicians. Along the way, nobody, least of all the politicians, considers the consequences of diverting supplies of edible oil or corn from the food supply until hungry and rightly angry people start marching in the streets and burning effigies of the politicians who are supposed to have their interests at the forefront of their minds.

    …or pull them from their cars in the street and beat them senseless.

  173. Winston Smith Avatar

    Mother Lode:

    So, are we going to run book on the next leader?

    Dutton.

  174. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    How long before we stop seeing pics on the news of Albo’s dog?

  175. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    The Morning After – many failed candidates who hitched their wagons to loser figureheads.

    Via the immortal Dusty Springfield:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuPOwe-2EYA

    I Just Don’t Know What To Do With Myself …

    And please spare us the obvious schoolboy suggestions. I’m hoping to invited into the Sneerers and Scoffers.

  176. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    The AFL should do more to prevent retired footballers from accidentally falling into becoming drug traffickers:

    St Kilda great Nick Riewoldt has made an impassioned plea to the AFL and the players’ union to provide more adequate support to players as they transition out of the professional game.

    Riewoldt’s call on Monday night came after former teammate Sam Fisher was jailed for trafficking commercial quantities of illicit drugs.

    Fisher, 39, played 228 games for the Saints before retiring in 2016.

    “A lot of his close teammates knew that he had some issues, but to this extent, once it was all laid bare last week, I think a lot of us were surprised at just how bad the situation had become,” Riewoldt said on Fox Footy.

    “But it landed heavy and, obviously, straight away you start to think about Sam and the situation he finds himself in, and his family and those close to him, and then you do a little bit of inward reflecting around, ‘What more could we have done?’”

  177. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Another perfect late Autumn day here. Bright blue skies with the odd cloud, sunshine, multicoloured trees, flocks of cockies, plus rosellas, currawongs, magpies, peewees, Australian Ravens (crows), sparrows, and finches. That I noticed when I went outside.

    We are blessed in this country, no matter what the doomsayers spruik.

  178. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Turnout by state, as per https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/Downloads/HouseTurnoutByStateDownload-27966.csv

    StateNm EligibleElectors Turnout TurnoutPercentage TurnoutSwing
    New South Wales 5472469 4282930 78.26 -13.9
    Victoria 4344208 3131759 72.09 -20.53
    Queensland 3503609 2461579 70.26 -20.96
    Western Australia 1773969 1216623 68.58 -21.47
    South Australia 1272047 916976 72.09 -20.98
    Tasmania 402331 312676 77.72 -16.62
    Australian Capital Territory 314329 252945 80.47 -12.68
    Northern Territory 145938 96019 65.79 -12.15

    Is… is that the final turnout figure?

  179. Fleeced Avatar
    Fleeced

    Looking at the candidate votes by type, prepoll columns are zero. In fact, all but normal and postal votes are zero. No idea what that means… other than that the data isn’t final?

  180. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Looking at the candidate votes by type, prepoll columns are zero. In fact, all but normal and postal votes are zero. No idea what that means… other than that the data isn’t final?

    The PrePoll Booths have been counted on the Saturday Night the last 2 Federal Elections.
    In 2016, PrePoll was counted on the Sunday Morning, and prior to that, PrePoll counting didn’t start until Tuesday.

  181. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    It was beautiful here in Melbourne too Johanna.
    A perfect autumn day.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Sliante” to all you horrible mob, Mme Zulu (H/T Johanna) is halfway through her course of treatment…her doctor says she is doing very well…

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