1,395 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 21 May 2021”

  1. I have very much come around to rejecting the idea of compromise with the likes of monty.

    Most of the left aren’t interested in debate and winning arguments. That’s my experience. I have one lefty friend I have interesting discussions with and sometimes we just agree to disagree.


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  2. Implying that monkey pox mainly affects gay men who have sex with other gay men will get him cancelled if he doesn’t watch out.

    As I’ve reported here previously, a cohort of his colleagues have already had a go at cancelling Coatsworth professionally.

    The relevant medical college said he had no case to answer.

    Perhaps we need to further “recalibrate” free speech?


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  3. That is idiotic in the extreme.

    what you see and hear is only the surface

    just the retarded repetition of their foundational myths

    history shows us that the idiot-density-function goes to negative infinity


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  4. H B Bearsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 8:38 am

    Strictly no bogans.

    There will be Woodstock cans though right?

    Err, no.
    The only cans will be Belvga.
    We will not be chasing the voters.
    On the contrary, we will create an atmosphere of exclusivity which will make people desparate to join. We will not lining up with the desparados in ill-fitting campaign t-shirts and thrusting HTV cards in their face. We will have marquee at every voting centre, complete with a door bitch and a velvet roped off entrance, and always keeping half a dozen hopefuls in the queue. Sounds of clinking glasses and laughter will be heard from inside. Every so often an attractive young lady will emerge clutching one of our leather-bound HTV compendiums.


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  5. Daily Mail.

    Wild moment vegan activist refuses a police demand to put her top on because she won’t follow ‘sexist requests’ during topless protest

    Vegan activist slammed officers as ‘sexist’ after they asked her to put a top on
    Tash Peterson had been protesting outside Nike store at Perth’s Hay Street Mall
    She was asked to conceal her bare chest which was covered only with pink paint
    Protester told cops she didn’t abide by ‘sexist requests’ and refused to cover up



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  6. miltonfsays:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:46 am
    I have very much come around to rejecting the idea of compromise with the likes of monty.

    Most of the left aren’t interested in debate and winning arguments. That’s my experience. I have one lefty friend I have interesting discussions with and sometimes we just agree to disagree.

    Yes. Most of the left will not just leave you alone. You can agree to disagree, but once in power they’ll happily sacrifice you and yours for their goals. Quite happy for you to be the egg that gets broken on the way to the true utopia, because you deserve it anyway for disagreeing.

    It’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in a universal franchise. The vast majority of people, right or left, don’t give any sober consideration to what their vote enables.


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  7. Russia’s chief representative to the UN in Geneva has resigned in protest at the war in Ukraine, saying he didn’t enter the diplomatic service to be a propagandist.

    He’ll be well advised to wipe his door knobs before entering his house and be on the alert for men with umbrellas.


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  8. UN expert predicts global food crisis may be 10 weeks away

    Engineered famines are a very Soviet thing. And it is engineered, with edible oil being use to replace expensive diesel especially in Indonesia, ethanol from maize being forced into cars to such an extent that there’s now a cornstarch shortage and Russia preventing Ukraine getting grain out of the country whilst Ukraine continues to allow gas from Russia to flow to the EU.


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  9. It’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in a universal franchise. The vast majority of people, right or left, don’t give any sober consideration to what their vote enables.

    If you require a HTV card, perhaps you shouldn’t be voting.


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  10. If you require a HTV card, perhaps you shouldn’t be voting.

    There is an interesting misconception that the parties allocate preferences.
    They provide guidance via a HTV but the voter determines the order of preferences on their individual ballot.
    What the parties hope for is solid HTV compliance.


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  11. What It Means That ‘Hillary Clinton Did It’

    The Wall Street Journal ran a scathing editorial on May 20, called “Hillary Clinton Did It”.

    This editorial began:

    “The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 was a dirty trick for the ages — and now we know it came from the top — candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

    The editorial quickly explained:

    “That was the testimony Friday by 2016 Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook in federal court [in Washington, D.C.], and while this news is hardly a surprise, it’s still bracing to find her fingertips on the political weapon.”

    (Also not surprisingly, The May 20 print edition of The New York Times did not include a story on Mook’s testimony.)

    The concluding paragraphs of the editorial are worth quoting in full:

    In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered the claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true.

    Most of the press will ignore this news, but the Russia-Trump narrative that Mrs. Clinton sanctioned did enormous harm to the country. It disgraced the FBI, humiliated the press, and sent the country on a three-year investigation to nowhere. Vladimir Putin never came close to doing as much disinformation damage.

    The harm done to the United States by the perfidy of the Clintonistas cannot be overemphasized.

    Never in the history of this Republic have so many citizens been so ill-served by so many “elitists” in government and the media.


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  12. H B Bearsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 9:08 am

    ALPBC radio “News”. Monkeypox linked to rave parties.

    Yes.
    That’s it.
    That’s the name.
    I am going to register ‘The Rave Party’ with the AEC.


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  13. Engineered famines are a very Soviet thing. And it is engineered…

    More by stupidity than design though.

    A businessman gives an engineer a problem to solve in order to bring a replacement product to market that meets green regulations put in place by politicians. Along the way, nobody, least of all the politicians, considers the consequences of diverting supplies of edible oil or corn from the food supply until hungry and rightly angry people start marching in the streets and burning effigies of the politicians who are supposed to have their interests at the forefront of their minds. This is one reason why nationalism, including national food security, is back on the agenda.


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  14. From the Spectator Mag.
    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    The Liberals were warned (repeatedly), ‘Go Woke, Go Broke!’ If nothing else, this federal election served as a reckoning against the soggy, wet, gangrenous Liberals sitting in wealthy Sydney seats. The ‘we’re so much smarter than everyone else’ MPs who ran election campaigns that looked as if they were copied straight off the Climate 200 website lost en masse. The Sharmas, Zimmermans, and Frydenbergs.


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  15. NSW is facing a massive shortage of police recruits because potential trainees are forced to spend thousands of dollars just to apply for the job and even more once they begin training.

    Kevin Morton, the newly appointed head of the Police Association of NSW, said the situation was so critical, the next intake of new officers in June has been cancelled because there are not enough applicants willing to cough up around $17,000 to qualify.

    “We’re missing out on quality potential police officers in this state because people simply can’t afford the application process,” Mr Morton said in his address to the association’s conference in Wollongong.

    “As a result we’re staring down the barrel of a serious police shortage in this state in the very near future.”

    In a draft copy of his speech to be delivered today in front of the NSW Police Minister Paul Toole and Police Commissioner Karen Webb have called for a total overhaul of the way police trainees are being charged to become cops.

    “NSW is the only jurisdiction in the country, and perhaps the world, where potential police have to fork out thousands of dollars and spend months of their lives training just to apply to be in the police force,” Mr Morton will say.

    “There’s not even a guarantee of a job at the end of it, so it’s no wonder people aren’t applying. We should be looking to attract the best and brightest, not just those who can afford it. You shouldn’t have to choose between paying your mortgage and looking after your family or joining the police.”

    Before applying to become a NSW police officer, potential recruits are required to obtain a University Certificate in workplace essentials from Charles Sturt University costing $1728 if paid in advance or $2160 if incurred as a student loan payable through HECS.

    They are then forced to pay around $15,000 plus board while they undertake the nine-month training course at the Goulburn Police Academy.

    Many senior police and association members say the procedure is also putting off older people with life experience from applying, even those in their mid 20s.

    “You’ve got cops going through the application process who are forced to live away from their families and live under quite strict rules, which can include not leaving the training facilities, and they’re not even getting paid for it – in fact, they’re paying out of their life savings to do it,” Mr Morton said.

    “The system in NSW is set up to effectively block anyone who doesn’t have a lot of savings or responsibilities from entering the police. We should be encouraging people with life experience into the job, not discouraging them.”

    Daily Telegraph


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  16. Yes, yes, we’ve all been robbed to various degrees.
    But I tell you who wasn’t robbed.
    Fat Cloive.
    Ran a shit campaign with B-Grade candidates and adjudged as untrustworthy by the electorate.


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  17. What the parties hope for is solid HTV compliance.

    Which they tend to get from masses of voters who just want to get voting over as painlessly as possible.


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  18. Every single press report about Erin Jayne’s death uses the word suddenly in inverted commas.
    Copy/paste of the media release, or code for suicide?
    Incidentally, a lot of reportage of suicides now uses the phrase died of suicide rather than committed suicide.
    I’m not sure the gentler phrasing is turning people away from the idea. Yet another local went off North Head last weekend and left young kids behind. Outwardly full of infectious fun and laughter, but…….


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  19. The Wall Street Journal ran a scathing editorial on May 20, called “Hillary Clinton Did It”.

    In the drawing room with a dagger?

    But seriously…


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  20. Fat Cloive.
    Ran a shit campaign with B-Grade candidates and adjudged as untrustworthy by the electorate.

    True, BUT that did give us malcontents another voting option if we wanted it.
    For example, if you wanted to vote below the line in the Senate, his people made it easier to get to the minimum of 12 votes.


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  21. OSC.
    From one of the reports …

    The notice was concluded with the phone number for 24 hour crisis support and suicide prevention service, Lifeline. 

    But let’s not jump conclusions.
    Let’s wait for Coroner St Ruth’s final report.
    “But what else was I supposed to conclude?”


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  22. More by stupidity than design though.

    A businessman gives an engineer a problem to solve in order to bring a replacement product to market that meets green regulations put in place by politicians. Along the way, nobody, least of all the politicians, considers the consequences of diverting supplies of edible oil or corn from the food supply until hungry and rightly angry people start marching in the streets and burning effigies of the politicians who are supposed to have their interests at the forefront of their minds. This is one reason why nationalism, including national food security, is back on the agenda.

    This is your analysis after what you have been presented with in the last two years and how they keep over a billion people under control in China?

    It’s communist engineered, the whole fucking lot of it.


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  23. The notice was concluded with the phone number for 24 hour crisis support and suicide prevention service, Lifeline.

    But let’s not jump conclusions.

    But lets believe what we are told!

    It was the Salmon Mousse!


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  24. I was complaining about the upcoming plastic straw ban in NSW… A friend (who has a food truck) informs me he just binned several boxes of plastic straws (10,000 straws per box) as a result.

    That’ll save the turtles!


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  25. Sancho, in my bitterness and cynicism towards all politicians these days, you could give me any negative description about them and I’d agree.


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  26. But satin bower birds will be unhappy. Blue plastic straws have long been essential bling for attracting the ladies.

    Probably how that turtle got the straw up its nose in the first place. Raiding bird nests. LOL.

    Anyway, aside from stocking up on plastic straws to take with me, what alternative is there here? Stainless steel and other reusable straws don’t seem sanitary.


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  27. Stefanovic has had as many covid vaxxs as he’s eligible for.
    Boy who cried wolf.
    Still a good reminder that I haven’t gotten a flu vax, something to do tomorrow, and enquire as to whether a covid booster pre possible Japan trip would be prudent.


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  28. Incidentally, a lot of reportage of suicides now uses the phrase died of suicide rather than committed suicide.

    Its very contagious.

    We need a vaccine.


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  29. Thancho if you’ll have me as a member of the SaSP its not a party I want to belong to unless you serve vol-au-vent instead of those discusting party pies. Also only vintage Champers. Definitely no Pablo or 43 something, that’s only for common plebs. Standards have to be kept.


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  30. OSC politicians see those negatives as positives because they don’t want to appeal to the likes of you who recognises failure for what it is.


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  31. miltonfsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 9:26 am

    Well it was UAP or PHON. LDP seems to have gone nowhere.

    I went LDP more to send a message about which party best reflected my views.
    LNP was first among the majors.
    I wasn’t handing my vote to the ALP or Greens by default.


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  32. 19 minutes ago
    Morrisons let pool cleaner live in their home
    Alexandra Middleton
    ALEXANDRA MIDDLETON

    Outgoing prime minister Scott Morrison and wife Jenny offered up their Sutherland Shire home to their former pool cleaner after her Woodburn property was destroyed in the NSW floods.

    Nikki Durant, who used to clean the Morrisons’ pool, told Nine News she called Ms Morrison to “ask for help” and said she could stay there “until election time”.

    “I made the call and here I am, so I didn’t have to think about it too much more, because Jenny opened the door to me and I came here,” she said.

    “She said you’ve got until election time, so, here I am.”

    Ms Durant – who had only met Ms Morrison a handful of times – moved into the Morrison family home with her two sons earlier this year, rent free, when her house in the Northern Rivers was left “unliveable” after it was submerged in floodwaters.

    “I would have been stuck, I had nowhere to go,” she said.

    While Ms Durant hasn’t met Scott Morrison, she said “Jenny (was) just gorgeous”.

    Ms Durant and her family are preparing to move back to Woodburn while the Morrisons pack up their things at Kirribilli House and return to their home in the Sutherland Shire



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  33. GreyRangasays:

    May 24, 2022 at 10:00 am

    Thancho if you’ll have me as a member of the SaSP its not a party I want to belong to unless you serve vol-au-vent instead of those discusting party pies

    Ranga, all our nibbles will have classy French names.
    Vol-au-vents, Boeuf Bourguignon, Quiche Lorraine, Potatoes Dauphinoise, Crepe Suzanne, Coup d’tart, the lot.


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  34. LDP seems to have gone nowhere.

    ? really. Their vote doubled nationally by my reading of the numbers and was stronger in lockdown-happy states. NT was a huge showing

    First preferences by Senate group

    National 2.19%, swing +1.03%
    NSW 2.04%, +0.13%
    Vic 2.40%, +1.44%
    Qld 2.37%, +1.54%
    WA 1.93%, +1.21%
    SA 2.21%, +1.54 %
    Tas 1.97%, +1.29%
    NT 8.63%, +8.63


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  35. Their vote doubled nationally by my reading of the numbers and was stronger in lockdown-happy states. NT was a huge showing

    The NT LDP candidate was the former liberal senator who lost preselection to Jacinta Price.


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  36. And this ladies and gentlemen represents everything wrong with the Liberal Party…

    Bernie Finn has been expelled from the Victorian Liberal party.


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  37. Libs are probably still dazed by wave that crashed down upon them – it is one thing to see it coming but you are never quite ready for what hits you, I suppose.

    So, are we going to run book on the next leader?


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  38. Delta Asays:
    May 24, 2022 at 10:39 am
    Blueysays:
    May 24, 2022 at 8:41 am

    An excellent reply to BJ’s post.

    Thank you. Unfortunately, like dealing with naughty children, unless we get a right wing party that does those things I don’t see a bright future for the country. Trump showed the way, but at the end of the day he is a 90’s moderate left guy. Most of the western world need someone far more ruthless, backed by a party willing to support them.


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  39. Libs are probably still dazed by wave that crashed down upon them – it is one thing to see it coming but you are never quite ready for what hits you, I suppose.

    Much consternation expressed in the local rag today by local LNP nabobs and pundits after their Morrison preferred vanilla candidate managed to halve their 20.5% margin in his first general election.


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  40. So, are we going to run book on the next leader?

    Not much doubt I would think. Perhaps will they ever have a primary vote beginning with a “4”?


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  41. Regarding Indigenous representation in the new Senate – how long has Jacquie Lambie claimed indigenous ancestors?

    You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if she does have indigenous ancestry.

    Her problem appears to be that she hails from the wrong side of the track, so to speak.

    Indigenous identity in Tasmania is reportedly jealously guarded by the gate keepers, for obvious reasons.


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  42. Scomo’s asset last time was not being Trumble and not being Shorten, so he pulled off a surprise victory.

    This time Scomo’s liability was being Scomo.


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  43. Yes, yes, the salmon mousse.

    Said it before – it’s an identical level of stupid and agenda-pushing from those classifying every death as ‘from’ rather than ‘with covid, to those frantically square-pegging every death to ’caused by Klausvax’ (which, by the way, was and remains a shit, worthless, counterproductive idea).

    No no. Don’t look at the Death Camps screamed about for months, and when people said this exact phrase:

    They will kill us all, and those who survive will wish they were dead.

    And which whimpered out with:

    Well what else would you have concluded.

    Don’t look there. That’s so February. Look over here, with unproven allegations of unspecified evilness by unspecified people which stole an election from The People, committed in an unspecified manner.

    Don’t ask for details. You people would be too stupid to understand. Now, if you don’t mind, I’ve got to go wash my corpulence with this rag on a stick.


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  44. It’s a funny old world when the unemployment rate is at a 48 year low but the government gets punted.
    Not that the low unemployment was accomplished by the ScoMo goat rodeo – it was an inadvertent consequence of the temporary suspension of the population Ponzi scheme. Expect normal service to be resumed under the Rub and Tug Man goat rodeo.
    Nor am I in any way suggesting that the ScoMo goat rodeo deserved to retain office. Just pointing out that things were, in some respects, less bad than they often are when a government gets returned.


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  45. I was going to write a wordwall to my local state member about Bernie Finn, but I decided to go with:-

    “Looks like you just expelled me as a voter.”



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  46. Expect normal service to be resumed under the Rub and Tug Man goat rodeo.

    Elbow was actually questioning the Ponzi during the election.

    Time will soon tell if it was a scripted response to focus group concerns or a trial balloon to test an upcoming policy reform.


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  47. Just got back from Woolies buying some milk.
    Saw the front page of the Toowoomba birdcage liner (The Chronicle). The local LNP are dismayed that for the first time in a long, long time they didn’t get in on first preferences and had to go to preferences. One of the party apparatchiks puts it down to going with net zero. Could also be due to the local idiot member going with a bunch of chickenshit local projects as evidence of his success in office. These are local government issues, State at most.


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  48. Doesn’t everyone keep a folded giraffe in their back pocket, its better than the crocodile I used to have. The utter stupidity of Nasa using such a ridiculous unit of measurement is reason enough to sack the lot of them. At least a lot of them will know how to code, but do they know how many bytes in a wombat? These people should be ridiculed for ever.


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  49. I was going to write a wordwall to my local state member about Bernie Finn, but I decided to go with:-

    “Looks like you just expelled me as a voter.”

    glad I walked in 2017- should have done so much sooner


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  50. Headline appearing in the online Hun, apropos of AFLW ladyscissorers and which got my attention:

    The coathanger that started Tayla Harris’ love with Tiger

    The piece was not as advertised.


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  51. Rogersays:
    May 24, 2022 at 11:15 am

    Interesting. But I’ll believe that Labor has gone cold turkey on importing voteherds when they actually do it.


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  52. Doesn’t everyone keep a folded giraffe in their back pocket, its better than the crocodile I used to have. The utter stupidity of Nasa using such a ridiculous unit of measurement is reason enough to sack the lot of them.

    WTF? Is this refence to an earlier post I missed?


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  53. Bernie Finn has been expelled from the Victorian Liberal party.

    But not Turnbull or Hewson.


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  54. Said it before – it’s an identical level of stupid and agenda-pushing from those classifying every death as ‘from’ rather than ‘with covid, to those frantically square-pegging every death to ’caused by Klausvax’ (which, by the way, was and remains a shit, worthless, counterproductive idea).

    Pretty ghoulish, eh?
    Scouring the news websites looking for premature deaths that he can gleefully assign to The Cause.


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  55. OK found the reference. Was it NASA or the Accuweather dick using that unit of measurement? Shades of the ABC and it’s mass unit of African elephants and Olympic swimming pools or Sydney Harbours for volume. I had to look up the average mass of African elephants in kilograms.


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  56. Heard Gary Hardgrave on the radio this morning. What a sensible man. Gave the SFL a good whack. To be honest I never paid attention to him in the past. Apparently he’s on Sky late. You can see how the SFL lost their way when someone like him is let go.


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  57. Elbow was actually questioning the Ponzi during the election.

    Time will soon tell if it was a scripted response to focus group concerns or a trial balloon to test an upcoming policy reform.

    Wait till Treasury gets in Jim’s ear.


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  58. But I’ll believe that Labor has gone cold turkey on importing voteherds when they actually do it.

    Perhaps they’ve realised that man in the voteherd actually aren’t all that keen on Labor’s social policies?


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  59. Lauterbach said the G-7 also agreed to better protect the global population from the health impacts of global warming, including by making adaptation to climate change part of medical training.

    Mmm. And where in your body do you feel this global warming happening?
    Does the globe warm when I press here? No? How about here?
    😀


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  60. Wait till Treasury gets in Jim’s ear.

    He’s probably getting the briefing today.

    “Cut back immigration? Upskill the locals? Very courageous, Treasurer!”


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  61. Perhaps they’ve realised that man[y] in the voteherd actually aren’t all that keen on Labor’s social policies?

    Could be. Though as can be seen with Bernie Finn they’d actually be perfectly safe relying on the Liberals to hand them those voters back on a silver platter.


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  62. Further to the Accuweather article it has been my understanding for a long time that an ocean impact of a large asteroid would be far worse than a land impact. See Messrs Pournelle and Niven.
    The Chelyabinsk event was 65 feet in diameter and yielded 0.5 megatonnes. The 350 giraffes would be around 365 Gigatonnes yield as a first cut and I suspect it would make it through the atmosphere intact.
    Yeah, truly a big deal.


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  63. I was going to write a wordwall to my local state member about Bernie Finn, but I decided to go with:-

    “Looks like you just expelled me as a voter.”

    I sent the same to headquarters and added “Get back to me when you have recommitted to the concept of free speech.”


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  64. The LNP lost because the libs went too far left especially on global warming; the primary vote of the ALP was the lowest ever because they didn’t go left far enough.

    Global warming is the biggest scam ever. It should have ended in 2007 when the Judgment in the Al Gore movie An Inconvenient Truth case was handed down by the English HC. The science in Gore’s movie to do with the alleged consequences of global warming were tested by the best scientists in the world including Australia’s Bob Carter who acted for the parent objecting to Gore’s movie being shown in schools as part of the science syllabus. Carter was a true dirt under the fingernails type of scientist who helped show none of the so-called consequences of global warming depicted in Gore’s movie – polar bears, rising seas, snow and the big one: humans emitting all the increase in CO2 which resulted in global temp increase – existed or if they did were inconsequential and/or not attributable to global warming.

    The lead scientist for Al Gore, Peter Stott is a computer expert who adjusts climate data, a complete contrast to Carter.

    The irony is the Judge, Michael Burton accepted the official IPCC view about Global Warming but determined that Gore’s movie’s claims were not consistent with the science of the IPCC and rejected all of his 9 consequences.

    Of course this Judgment has been ignored or lied about by the alarmists. This confirms again that alarmism is not about reasonable discourse, evidence or common sense; it’s a belief system which people are making money from and the communists in the UN are using to undermine the West. In addition the media and rich bastards are on board.

    Stock up on candles folks.


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  65. Riding back from shopping in Fairfield this morning and it occured to me .. I haven’t seen a plod on foot since lockdown/masks were scrapped .. now I ride 3 to 400 kms a week around Fairfield/Liverpool/Blacktown areas so it would appear that taking the pepperspray for a toddle ain’t much fun when you can’t use it on little old ladies and mums wiv bubs .. LOL!


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  66. Can the brain dead here work out what tense the word “will” aludes to?

    In this sentence.
    “It will happen”.
    Have a go, see what you can work out.
    Even Vicplod level educated should be able to have a crack.
    For ages 5 and over.

    Scouring the internet?
    Every morning I get at least ten emails from CHRISTIAN news services , with reports from the thousands of doctors screaming about this, like Robert Malone and Peter Mc Cullough and the actual experts on these killer jabs.
    Silenced by Socialists.
    You continue to listen to Koshie.
    I would If I were you.
    The truth about your stupidity and it causing your premature death through lack of moral conviction would be hard to take….I get that.
    tick, tick, tick……


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  67. The LNP lost because the libs went too far left especially on global warming; the primary vote of the ALP was the lowest ever because they didn’t go left far enough.

    Fun fact: .. the only “houso” I have ever heard mention “gerbil werming/climate change is AnAl .. LOL!


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  68. Liberal apparatchik on the radio saying they need to return to their roots and become the party of enterprise: “Renewable energy presents great opportunities for Australia.”


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  69. Re LDP- was anyone actually elected on Saturday?

    No. Also no one elected from Conservative Nationals, Rise Up Australia, Christian Democratic Party, Great Australian Party, Involuntary Medication Objectors, Citizens Electoral Council, Love Australia or Leave or Australian Liberty Alliance.


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  70. Umm, Coleman died of prostate cancer.
    Diagnosed 4 (four) years ago.
    Boy, you got to hand it to the GloBaLists. Setting up alibis for their vax murders four years in advance.
    Although the CHRISTIAN websites might tell a different story.


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  71. From The Oz…

    Expelled Lib MP says he ‘won’t be bullied’
    Rachel Baxendale

    Expelled Liberal MP Bernie Finn says he will “not be bullied by (Opposition Leader) Matthew Guy”, vowing to recontest the November state election.

    Mr Finn said he had not yet decided whether he would attempt to form his own party, join another conservative minor party, or even recontest Liberal preselection given his expulsion is from the parliamentary party and the organisational wing.

    “We’ve found out a lot about a lot of people this week, and there are some lessons that I think we will remember in November,” Mr Finn said.

    “What we have seen today is a statement from the leader of our party that the party that I joined over 41 years ago, is dead.

    “The party of Menzies and Howard is no more. Not in Victoria. Used to be the jewel of the Liberal crown, here in Victoria, but it doesn’t exist anymore. The party of Bolte, the party of Kennett, gone, gone, doesn’t exist anymore.

    “If you hold a view opposite or different to the leader in this party, you run the risk of expulsion.

    “Just as I will not be bullied by Daniel Andrews, I will not be bullied by Matthew Guy either, so let us go forward and let us form a new movement if we must, if that’s what’s needed.”

    Mr Finn said it was too early to say whether he would form his own party.

    “Look, in politics in 2022, after what happened on Saturday, anything is possible, so let’s just see what happens. But as I said before I’m certainly not going to be bailing out of politics anytime soon, and the views that I hold are views that are held by a lot of people,” he said.

    Mr Finn said he understood some members of the Liberal partyroom had voted in his favour against the expulsion motion, but he could not say how many.

    “There were a number who spoke in my favour, in favour of keeping me, so I thank them, but there’s been a fair effort put in by a number of front benchers to get rid of me,” he said.

    He said he had been approached by “six or seven” parties and asked to join, but had thus far declined the invitation.

    “But that’s obviously something that I may have to reconsider,” Mr Finn said.

    Asked which parties, he named the Liberal Democrats, but declined to go further “because there might be people who might not want me to do that.”

    Asked whether there was a chance he would join a party and sit with that party within the upper house before the next election, Mr Finn said: “That’s a possibility. That’s a possibility. As I say it’s something that’s just happened less than an hour ago, so I haven’t really given it the degree of thought that it needs.”

    Asked whether he would recontest Liberal preselection, Mr Finn said: “That’s an interesting thought. I can, because I’m still a member of the Liberal Party.”

    “That’s something that I might consider, because the reason that this has been done, the way it’s been done, is because those who wish to remove me from the party, know that I would probably win preselection. So that’s something that I may well like to consider,” he said.

    “I’ve got to tell you, I was seriously thinking about retiring at this election, very seriously thinking about it, and this has given me a new lease on life, so thank you Matthew Guy.”


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  72. Fleeced

    Stainless steel and other reusable straws don’t seem sanitary.

    Rigid items like stainless steel are dangerous. Don’t you remember your mother telling you not to run with that pencil in your mouth?


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  73. You must have known the fatty, (not Monty) Coleman personally, and since you like to abuse overweight people, Sancho, I point my sickle at you and proclaim death by mean words towards fatties.


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  74. The 350 giraffes would be around 365 Gigatonnes yield as a first cut and I suspect it would make it through the atmosphere intact.
    Yeah, truly a big deal.

    who would have thought a terminal velocity space giraffe is almost one gigatonne of impact energy?

    The things you learn.


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  75. Cassie of Sydney says:
    May 24, 2022 at 10:42 am

    And this ladies and gentlemen represents everything wrong with the Liberal Party…

    Bernie Finn has been expelled from the Victorian Liberal party.

    I don’t know much about the Victorian Liberals, I wouldn’t recognise Matthew Guy if I bumped into him in the street, but I do know Bernie Finn from quite a few YouTubes. He’s a very accomplished parliamentarian and seems like a decent and sensible bloke, the Victorian Liberals should have elected him as their leader rather than sacking him.


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  76. Struthsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    Did he?
    How do you know?

    I read it on a CHRISTIAN website.
    I can’t recall which one.
    Too many open tabs.
    Not enough sleep.


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  77. Struthsays:

    May 24, 2022 at 12:15 pm

    You must have known the fatty, (not Monty) Coleman personally, and since you like to abuse overweight people,

    No, not all.
    Just Fat Cloive and the Meatloaf tribute act guy from Hervey Bay.


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  78. Expelled Lib MP says he ‘won’t be bullied’

    This is the problem with “broad churches”, whether ecclesiastical or political; they become full of milksops who can’t tolerate people with strong principles. The latter are deemed “divisive”and must either keep silent or be expelled from their midst for disturbing their peace, which is the peace of those who’ve never fought for anything in their lives.


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  79. Another electric car catches fire – this time with the driver locked inside:

    Firefighters in Vancouver, Canada, are investigating a car fire involving a Tesla after an electrical malfunction caused the vehicle doors to lock shut, trapping the driver inside as smoke began pouring in through vents. The driver kicked out a window to escape from Elon Musk’s electric vehicle.

    CTV News Vancouver reports that firefighters have launched an investigation into a recent Tesla fire in the Vancouver area. The driver, Jamil Jutha, was driving towards Mountain Highway in North Vancouver last Friday when his 2021 Tesla Model Y that he purchased within months of the incident suddenly shut down.

    and

    “Of course, there’s always going to be panic in a moment when you feel trapped,” he said. “I kicked through the window, climbed out and called 911 right away.” The car continued to burn with the fire making its way into the interior of the car, flames were seen shooting in the air as the fire department arrived.

    Chief Brian Hutchinson, with the District of North Vancouver Fire and Rescue Services, commented: “We’re very fortunate that this individual had the wherewithal and the strength to kick the window out.”

    Tesla Model Y vehicles do have a mechanical release handle but it is designed to be unobtrusive and look as if it is a plastic capping near the door and window control button.

    Nice to know that there is a mechanical door release button (carefully hidden) for when your car spontaneously combusts. That is the kind of information that provides a warm and cosy feeling when you are choosing a vehicle.


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  80. If that Guy freak can expel Finn from the Libs, just imagine what he would be prepared to do to the average Victorian punter swimming against the ‘correct’ tide should he win government – which, in itself, is an impossibility. The mongrel will not be getting my vote.


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  81. Nice to know that there is a mechanical door release button (carefully hidden) for when your car spontaneously combusts. That is the kind of information that provides a warm and cosy feeling when you are choosing a vehicle.

    Perhaps that’s why the dealer doesn’t tell you about it.


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  82. Also no one elected from … Christian Democratic Party

    CDP doesn’t exist anymore, Monty. Try to keep up.

    There was a bit of squabbling in-house and they went into receivership and were disbanded by the court. Fred Nile (yeah, he’s still alive) is too paranoid about potential successors stabbing him in the back, so the old dinosaur keeps stuffing things up. Though the cynic in me wonders if the Libs just didn’t need them anymore, with Optional Preferential now being a thing (they likely would have propped them up, otherwise).

    I do know a few religious types who didn’t know who to vote for without CDP or FF. Which is odd, because they were never that great.

    Anyway, LDP was always going to split the vote with Clive and Pauline, but the big surprise was the Legalise Cannabis party. They outpolled LDP significantly, despite it being a policy of LDP to legalise it.

    In Australia, personality politics or single issue is what gets you a senate gig. LDP might have to change strategy when they change their name.


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  83. Wodger:

    A businessman gives an engineer a problem to solve in order to bring a replacement product to market that meets green regulations put in place by politicians. Along the way, nobody, least of all the politicians, considers the consequences of diverting supplies of edible oil or corn from the food supply until hungry and rightly angry people start marching in the streets and burning effigies of the politicians who are supposed to have their interests at the forefront of their minds.

    …or pull them from their cars in the street and beat them senseless.


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  84. The AFL should do more to prevent retired footballers from accidentally falling into becoming drug traffickers:

    St Kilda great Nick Riewoldt has made an impassioned plea to the AFL and the players’ union to provide more adequate support to players as they transition out of the professional game.

    Riewoldt’s call on Monday night came after former teammate Sam Fisher was jailed for trafficking commercial quantities of illicit drugs.

    Fisher, 39, played 228 games for the Saints before retiring in 2016.

    “A lot of his close teammates knew that he had some issues, but to this extent, once it was all laid bare last week, I think a lot of us were surprised at just how bad the situation had become,” Riewoldt said on Fox Footy.

    “But it landed heavy and, obviously, straight away you start to think about Sam and the situation he finds himself in, and his family and those close to him, and then you do a little bit of inward reflecting around, ‘What more could we have done?'”



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  85. Another perfect late Autumn day here. Bright blue skies with the odd cloud, sunshine, multicoloured trees, flocks of cockies, plus rosellas, currawongs, magpies, peewees, Australian Ravens (crows), sparrows, and finches. That I noticed when I went outside.

    We are blessed in this country, no matter what the doomsayers spruik.


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  86. Turnout by state, as per https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/Downloads/HouseTurnoutByStateDownload-27966.csv

    StateNm EligibleElectors Turnout TurnoutPercentage TurnoutSwing
    New South Wales 5472469 4282930 78.26 -13.9
    Victoria 4344208 3131759 72.09 -20.53
    Queensland 3503609 2461579 70.26 -20.96
    Western Australia 1773969 1216623 68.58 -21.47
    South Australia 1272047 916976 72.09 -20.98
    Tasmania 402331 312676 77.72 -16.62
    Australian Capital Territory 314329 252945 80.47 -12.68
    Northern Territory 145938 96019 65.79 -12.15

    Is… is that the final turnout figure?


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  87. Looking at the candidate votes by type, prepoll columns are zero. In fact, all but normal and postal votes are zero. No idea what that means… other than that the data isn’t final?


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  88. Looking at the candidate votes by type, prepoll columns are zero. In fact, all but normal and postal votes are zero. No idea what that means… other than that the data isn’t final?

    The PrePoll Booths have been counted on the Saturday Night the last 2 Federal Elections.
    In 2016, PrePoll was counted on the Sunday Morning, and prior to that, PrePoll counting didn’t start until Tuesday.


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  89. “Sliante” to all you horrible mob, Mme Zulu (H/T Johanna) is halfway through her course of treatment…her doctor says she is doing very well…


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