Open Thread – Tues 24 May 2022


Expulsion from the Garden of Eden, Thomas Cole, 1828

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Frank
Frank
May 24, 2022 6:55 pm

A number of prototypes have already been manufactured and trialled by officers with a new dark navy blue shirt with mesh sides lining the garment from the hip to the underarm, the most likely option if the change is given the green light.

Sounds slinky and breezy with the mesh, also very very gay, in a nineties gay disco sort of a way.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
May 24, 2022 6:56 pm

Thanks Cassie (6.19 above).

Lillian Andrews sums up the tea ladies motivations beautifully.

Smart woman.

Real Deal
Real Deal
May 24, 2022 7:00 pm

Got a notice on twatter

Alvey fishing reels is closing down.

I have 2 my Grandfather left me when he passed, the old bakelite ones, still work beautifully.

Sad day. I have mine from the 80s and Dad’s from the 70s. Both working.

I have my Dad’s Alvey wooden reel from the 60s and Bakelite reel from similar time. Beautiful craftsmanship.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
May 24, 2022 7:00 pm

Alvey reels biggest problem is that their fishing gear lasts forever.

Nobody buys new ones, they just get handed down through the generations.

Mungo Man was found with an Alvey sidecast reel in his grave.

Bruce in WA
May 24, 2022 7:01 pm

Chinese Malaysian interests bought Alvey 35 years ago.
My guess is it’s been living on the reputation since, and time ran out?

Then you guess wrongly … again.

It cited issues with sourcing raw materials, “drastic” cost increases, significant and increasing domestic and global supply chain logistics issues, and staff shortages caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.

The company still had “significant supplies” to clear and has planned a “structured sell down”, the statement said.

“We anticipate running with warehouse/dispatch and administration staff with current stock on hand, which will carry us through to January/February 2023, but we will not be able to remain open after this time,” it read.

Products will remain available via its website, and authorised retailers will continue sales until they run out of stock.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 24, 2022 7:02 pm

Sounds slinky and breezy with the mesh, also very very gay, in a nineties gay disco sort of a way.
And the SS blue “flatters all body types”.
Looks like NSW police are bending over receive a lot of high BMI LGBTQs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 7:03 pm

Colonel at 6:25.
I hold grave fears that you might be accused of being the dumbest person evah.
And a boomer.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 24, 2022 7:10 pm

Are they going to get christine nixon to model the form flattering uniform or is she still at last Saturday’s buffet?

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2022 7:14 pm

My God, Karma Sharma, I’m glad he’s gonksi. I was feeling a little sorry for him after Saturday night but after reading this drivel……I’m just stunned.

“Dave Sharma says he lost Wentworth to teal Allegra Spender due to “dislike” of Scott Morrison

Dave Sharma has spoken for the first time about why he believes he lost Wentworth to Allegra Spender and what the Liberals need to do to return to power.

Ousted Liberal MP Dave Sharma has put his loss in the eastern suburbs seat of ­Wentworth down to dislike of Scott Morrison and declared that if the party shifts to the right after being thumped it can forget about ever forming government again.

In his first interview since the election, Mr Sharma also told The Daily Telegraph that with Labor to govern in its own right, his conqueror, independent Allegra Spender, “will have limited leverage or relevance” — like Warringah teal Zali Steggall during the last term of parliament.

But “no-one in (Ms Steggall’s) electorate seemed to mind that she was irrelevant,” he added.

Mr Sharma said he had not made any decision on his political future.

“I am keen to make a further contribution but I’m not ruling anything in or out,” he said.

The 46-year-old former diplomat said that while there was a sizeable swing against him, it was replicated in most metropolitan areas.

“It was dislike of Morrison and the Morrison government … even if people didn’t dislike me,” he said. “I was tarred with that brush.”

The swing against Mr Sharma was 6.77 per cent on first-preference votes.

He was one of three Liberal moderates in Sydney and six nationally who were swept away by the teal tide on Saturday.

Mr Sharma said the Liberal Party had to “move back to the centre” if it wanted to return to power in Canberra.

“I think it would be a gross misdiagnosis to say the party needs to go to the right,” he said. “Where are the 20 seats we are going to need to find? We need to move back to the centre.”

Mr Sharma said the teals had turned “contests into US-style politics”.

“Any candidate who goes up against them will need to raise a lot of money,” he said.

It is the second Mr Sharma has been defeated in Wentworth, after losing to independent Kerry Phelps in 2018.

Mr Sharma said the Liberal Party had to “move back to the centre” if it wanted to return to power in Canberra.

“I think it would be a gross misdiagnosis to say the party needs to go to the right.

“If people want to go ideologically to the right, good luck to them, but don’t ever expect to form government,” he said.

“Where are the 20 seats we are going to need to find? We need to move back to the centre.”

Mr Sharma said the teals had turned “contests into US-style politics”.

“Any candidate who goes up against them will need to raise a lot of money.”

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaark.

Firstly, good riddance to Sharma and the rest of the “moderate” scum. I’m just stunned at this man’s lack of awareness.

Secondly, have I been living on a different planet? Sharma’s claim that the Liberal party has to move back to the centre if it wants to return to power in Canberra, but the party has been existing and operating in the centre and the left for the last seven years. Net Zero Emission is a core belief of the left. I’d hardly call the Liberal Party a paragon of conservative and right-wing ideology since 2015. This is the man who crossed the floor because he believed transgender rights were more important than religious rights.

Thirdly, I’m now convinced that he and other moderate scum were behind the vilification and trashing of Craig Kelly and George Christensen, leading to their isolation and subsequent resignations from the party. Clearly, Sharma, Zimmerman, Allen, Martin, Falinsky and the rest of the moderate scum wanted to purge the party of all conservatives. Given what ensued on Saturday night, I am chuckling out loud.

My message to Sharma………….YOU AIN’T NO LIBERAL, FUCK OFF TO THE GREENS.

northshore redneck
northshore redneck
May 24, 2022 7:15 pm
will
will
May 24, 2022 7:17 pm

Brisbane (QLD)
Eligible electors:125,241
Turnout:63.98%
Informality:1.80%

Formal total 78,688
informal 1,446
total 80,134

astounding

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2022 7:21 pm

Lillian Andrews sums up the tea ladies motivations beautifully.

Teals.
Their angry, moody and overheated.
Not a great basis for a political platform.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 7:22 pm

Spot on Cassie.
Sharma is an entitled dick.

Tom
Tom
May 24, 2022 7:22 pm

Just like clockwork, the media uses the change of government to start campaigning to flood Australia with illegal immigrants.

Tonight, Nine’s A Current Affair‘s lead story pleads with Elbow to allow in an the family of an Indian whose case has been rejected the the existing immigration tribunals.

The media is the enemy of the people.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 24, 2022 7:24 pm

Cassie I love your restrained style of writing.

cohenite
May 24, 2022 7:26 pm

Watching Tucker list the actions by the demorats to demonise republicans and Trump and confect false crisis prompts me to now reckon the mid-terms are better then even money to be suspended.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 7:27 pm

I must say, the bonhomie and good humour isn’t what it could be today.

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2022 7:31 pm

“If people want to go ideologically to the right, good luck to them, but don’t ever expect to form government”, [Sharma] said.

The modern Liberal in a nutshell; what matters is power, not principle.

There’s more that can be said, but I’ll leave it for another time.

Delta A
Delta A
May 24, 2022 7:32 pm

Mungo Man was found with an Alvey sidecast reel in his grave.

Phtt!

That’s nuffin. I heard that Keith Richards has one that he inherited from his great grandfather.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2022 7:32 pm

Teal is a cooling colour.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
May 24, 2022 7:33 pm

Former Labor senator and election analyst John Black has concluded that there was a swing towards the LNP among less well to do voters.

Will anyone in the Liberal Party notice?

Ooooh yuk, poor people ! Libs don’t notice poor people, apparently they can hardly put up with
country folk either these days.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 24, 2022 7:35 pm

From The Australian:

Australia has dropped from 5th to 10th place in the OECD for openly LBGT+ MPs in Parliament.
With the ouster of Trevor Evans, Trent Zimmerman and Tim Wilson, there will be 7 openly LBGT+ representatives among 227.

Razey
Razey
May 24, 2022 7:36 pm

From The Australian:

Australia has dropped from 5th to 10th place in the OECD for openly LBGT+ MPs in Parliament.
With the ouster of Trevor Evans, Trent Zimmerman and Tim Wilson, there will be 7 openly LBGT+ representatives among 227.

7 is far too many of the disgusting degenerates.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 7:36 pm

Redneck.
I am a subset of LMAC.
I am more FOALMAC.
Fuck Off And Leave Me Alone Coalition.
But we saw that distinction writ large during lockdowns.

Old bloke
Old bloke
May 24, 2022 7:36 pm

Patrick Kelly says:
May 24, 2022 at 4:58 pm

OB @ 4:40
Fair point. I’m pretty sure that LDP recommended Libs 6th for above the line Senate voting. Seems to me that, if you are correct, the UAP wasted their Senate votes by not including a potential winner in case the minors failed.

The UAP members probably thought that none of the potential winners of the major parties was worth their vote. People have been mandated out of their jobs by the majors, businesses can’t find workers, and trust in our parliamentary systems is at an all time low.

It’s not a waste for refusing to endorse the actions of tyrants.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 24, 2022 7:39 pm

Former Labor senator and election analyst John Black has concluded that there was a swing towards the LNP among less well to do voters.

People didn’t forget JobSeeker payments and gettingn$20 grand outta their Super

Will anyone in the Liberal Party notice?
The Labor Party have, that’s why they’re down to 31% of the Vote and sinking like a stone.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 24, 2022 7:41 pm

Without Canavan saying NetZero is dead and Katherine Deves poisoning the Liberal and National well, they mighta won.

Razey
Razey
May 24, 2022 7:41 pm
Winston Smith
May 24, 2022 7:41 pm

Old Ozzie:

High gas prices force out NSW retailer Weston

Thanks – precisely what I was after.

Fleeced
Fleeced
May 24, 2022 7:41 pm

Former Labor senator and election analyst John Black has concluded that there was a swing towards the LNP among less well to do voters.

Will anyone in the Liberal Party notice?

Melissa McIntosh in the seat of Lindsay noticed, I’m sure. She had a swing towards her both on primary vote and 2PP.

Frank
Frank
May 24, 2022 7:42 pm

I must say, the bonhomie and good humour isn’t what it could be today.

Screw you buddy!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2022 7:45 pm

The United States is a shining light of freedom compared to this shit hole.

Seeya. I hear Japan is pretty good as well.

Plenty of part-time sumo jobs.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2022 7:46 pm

Interesting analysis of the supposed strong Labor result in VIC.
*Warning Monty, may offend.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ademsomyurek/status/1528594000650809344

cohenite
May 24, 2022 7:46 pm

Without Canavan saying NetZero is dead and Katherine Deves poisoning the Liberal and National well, they mighta won.

Stop taking the piss dickhead.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 24, 2022 7:47 pm

Australia has dropped from 5th to 10th place in the OECD for openly LBGT+ MPs in Parliament.
With the ouster of Trevor Evans, Trent Zimmerman and Tim Wilson, there will be 7 openly LBGT+ representatives among 227.

So we’re down to only 3% of our parliamentarians are perverts. Shock, horror. That must be about the percentage of the total population.

How will they reproduce?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2022 7:49 pm

Hercule Poirumpsteak, at 4.41:

The left do the corruption.
They’re not going to lose Labor votes, you twat.

Okay. Back to Hinkler, which you introduced into the discussion. Why would the non-Labor clear winner publicly declare there was discrepancy in the counting process, and when he was well ahead?

As you’ve refused to answer this to date, I’ll help. Because the winning candidate didn’t necessarily want a handful of Maritime Law fanbois from The Last Holdout claiming he stole the seat from Clive.

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
May 24, 2022 7:49 pm

@chrislsays:
May 24, 2022 at 6:49 pm
Perhaps Turnbull and the whole cabal could emigrate and build waterfront properties in Tuvalu or The Maldives in imitation of their fellow true believers like Al Gore and Bill Gates. Not to mention Tim Flannery. Ehrlich for anyone with longer memories. Nothing like a bit of waterfront investment to boost your sea rising credentials!

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 24, 2022 7:51 pm

7 is far too many of the disgusting degenerates.

Take it easy, bigot.
My point is that voters in those electorates weren’t impressed by their professed Gayness and the 3 mighta bin better off keeping it on the down low.
Of the 7 left, Julian Hill [ALP] is the only male left in the House,
Angie Bell [LNP] is the only female, and the other 5 are Senators, including ALP Senator for Far North Qld Nita Green.

Fleeced
Fleeced
May 24, 2022 7:51 pm

Australia has dropped from 5th to 10th place in the OECD for openly LBGT+ MPs in Parliament.
With the ouster of Trevor Evans, Trent Zimmerman and Tim Wilson, there will be 7 openly LBGT+ representatives among 227.

Those white tea ladies really did a number on gay and jewish candidates, didn’t they? I wonder why they chose to contest those seats?

I’m just asking questions.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 24, 2022 7:53 pm

So we’re down to only 3% of our parliamentarians are perverts. Shock, horror. That must be about the percentage of the total population.
A while back a careful survey reckoned it was only 1.6%, so still twice as many of the mentally ill as in the general population.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 7:57 pm

Melissa McIntosh in the seat of Lindsay noticed, I’m sure. She had a swing towards her both on primary vote and 2PP.

Fleeced, I noticed that today scrolling through the results by seat.
Sure, the swings are predominantly ALP, but they are all over the shop, including some solid swings to the LNP.
But the questions remain.
Will they analyse it?
And if they do, will they act on it?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2022 7:58 pm

and National well

The National well is Aqua Vitae by the results.

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2022 8:03 pm

Goodness, a few question for Dave Karma Sharma…given his statement today “”If people want to go ideologically to the right, good luck to them, but don’t ever expect to form government”,”

1. How come Dave, the Victorian Liberal Party, which has veered so far to the left, has had no luck winning government? Shouldn’t they romp in? How come Dave?

2. How come Dave, the West Australian Liberals, which veered ideologically so far to the left prior to the state election back in 2020/2021 under the sterling leadership of Zac Cockup (who made Matt Kean look like a right-wing warrior), didn’t win government? In fact, the subsequent electoral massacre left the West Australians Liberals them with 2 sole MPs in parliament. How come Dave?

3. How come Dave, the South Australian government under the eminently forgettable Steven Marshmallow (who just loved to spend his time hobnobbing with artists and writers at various Adelaide festivals, the very people who would never vote Liberal in a heartbeat), how come his government, which veered so far to the left, lost in an epic landslide earlier this year? This was after they’d introduced progressive moderate left-wing goodies such as late term abortion and euthanasia. How come Dave?

4. How come Dave, after your great mate Matt Kean smeared conservative Liberals such as myself as bigots, Trumpists and Putin sympathisers, all because we believe that biological men shouldn’t compete against biological women and that men who put on a dress and lipstick and claim that they’re women should not have the right to use female only spaces, how come we decided not to rush to vote for you and other moderate Liberals…or are we supposed to love being insulted, smeared and ridiculed. How come Dave?

Dave, take your time answering my above questions, methinks you’ll need a lot time but that’s okay, you’ve now got lots of time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 8:04 pm

Would it be wrong to ask about Warren Entsch?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 8:07 pm

Is there a touch of the rhetorical in those questions, Cassie?

Edwina
Edwina
May 24, 2022 8:07 pm

Did I just hear Joe Biden on the Bolt Report tonight say that “we” would transfer from a “democracy to an autocracy”?
Or did I mishear? It is possible!
He was giving a speech in Japan with Sleazy among the assembled VIP’s. Shudder!
If he did he is saying the quiet bit out loud?

miltonf
miltonf
May 24, 2022 8:09 pm

Thanks for the earlier post Cassie re the insufferable snobs who supported suspender belt et al. This ties in with Joel Kotin’s work THE COMING OF NEO-FEUDALISM and Lasch’s THE REVOLT OF THE ELITES. They are incredibly stupid and obnoxious people. They are also very dangerous.

What total twot Sharma has proved himself to be. I’ve been slightly familiar with some of Falinsky’s past utterances which made me think he was a green.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 8:09 pm

Australia has dropped from 5th to 10th place in the OECD for openly LBGT+ MPs in Parliament.

Bring back Slippery Pete?

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 24, 2022 8:09 pm

Entsch, a liberal Liberal, won easily.
Funny, that.

m0nty
May 24, 2022 8:10 pm

No, you stupid moll. They were ILLEGITIMATE. The ballots of dead and demented people stolen from aged care homes where they are still on the rolls. Ballots from students stolen from unis where they no longer attend. Ballots stolen from letter boxes. Ballots from illegally registered deros.

In some states, every registered person had a ballot sent to them. Many people went to vote and were told they had already done so. The Democrats have been vote harvesting for years. In 2020 they increased the operation massively in targeted electorates.

Yeah jupes, so you just laid out a vast left-wing conspiracy for which you have no proof whatsoever.

You sound like a crazy person.

vr
vr
May 24, 2022 8:12 pm

A Financier Tells Some Climate-Change Truths

HSBC executive Stuart Kirk gave a presentation at an investor conference last week, taking banking regulators to task for overbaking the financial risk of climate change. What was he thinking? As punishment for his heresy, the British bank has sent him to re-education camp.

Mr. Kirk is, or at least was, the bank’s global head of responsible investing, so his candid presentation titled “Why investors need not worry about climate risk” naturally attracted attention. We understand why banking regulators and businesses that hope to make money off the coming tidal wave of climate regulation might be offended by his truth-telling.

But he merely said what many in his industry believe but are too timid to say: Climate change poses a negligible risk to the global economy and bank balance sheets. Oh, and central bankers are partly to blame for the current economic turmoil because they’ve focused too much on climate change while ignoring far greater, more immediate risks such as inflation.

“Unsubstantiated, shrill, partisan, self-serving, apocalyptic warnings are ALWAYS wrong,” one of his slides noted. He highlighted sky-is-falling quotes from banking potentates such as Mark Carney, the former Bank of England Governor, who recently said the damage from climate change will dwarf the current pain from rising prices. Tell that to the working folks dealing with 8% inflation.

RTWT in the WSJ Opinion page

will
will
May 24, 2022 8:13 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
May 24, 2022 at 8:03 pm
Goodness, a few question for Dave Karma Sharma

I declare Cassie a National Treasure

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
May 24, 2022 8:14 pm

Gawdalmighty.

Albo on the world stage.

Mismatched teeth, spraying spit and speaking clearly.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 24, 2022 8:14 pm

The 3.1% that took us from near Podium to 10th place in the OECD are the Openly LGBT+ cohort.
Obviously, there’s plenty of Flamers and Lezzos in Federal Parliament, but voters in general don’t rate it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2022 8:14 pm

As expected. James Morrow:

Former NSW premier and parachute candidate Kristina Keneally has been spotted on her old home of Scotland Island, just three days after her defeat at the hands of independent Dai Le in Fowler at an election that otherwise saw Labor ride a red wave to power in Canberra.

According to reports on Nine News, Ms Keneally was sighted back at her old home on the Hawkesbury, nearly 70km and a world away from the streets of Liverpool where made her home during the election.

And:

She didn’t answer if her presence back in Scotland Island was proof she was a “parachute candidate”.

During the campaign Ms Keneally said she would remain in Fowler even if she lost the seat in the election.

Well she would say that, wouldn’t she? Plus, Graham Richardson on the best thing he’s ever said:

During the campaign, Ms Keneally worked hard to cultivate the image of a local resident, however many both inside and outside the electorate were unconvinced.

Labor powerbroker Graham Richardson remarked on election night that Ms Keneally was “like an alien walking around the Fairfield shops in a $2,000 dress”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2022 8:16 pm

Would it be wrong to ask about Warren Entsch?

Don’t ask, don’t tell.

Rabz
May 24, 2022 8:16 pm

Apparently barnababy is in leadership trouble.
Not climate changy enough.

As opposed to being a barking mad incoherent z-grade sell out hypocrite.

Gee, who’da thunk it.

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2022 8:16 pm

“You sound like a crazy person.”

Knowing Jupes as I do, he’s not a crazy person. He’s intelligent, thoughtful, measured, articulate and urbane….probably quite the opposite of you.

Frank
Frank
May 24, 2022 8:22 pm

Van Wrongselon is at it again in the Australian.

Why Labor’s economic credentials have never been stronger

Never has an incoming government had such an array of PhDs in economics in its parliamentary ranks.

Shades of pant crease envy for the credentialed classes.

shatterzzz
May 24, 2022 8:30 pm

Labor powerbroker Graham Richardson remarked on election night that Ms Keneally was “like an alien walking around the Fairfield shops in a $2,000 dress”.

Load of rubbish! .. .. Fairfield is in McMahon (turtle-land) NOT Fowler .. FFS!

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 24, 2022 8:33 pm

I’d call the Liberal Party a leftist Party, so that figure should probably be 8 out of 8.

Dickless

Your call seems to be more a reflection of your position as an American style so-called “progressive” than a reflection of reality.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2022 8:33 pm

Yeah jupes, so you just laid out a vast left-wing conspiracy for which you have no proof whatsoever.

I’ll raise you Russiagate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2022 8:36 pm

Van Wrongselon is at it again in the Australian

The Prof has single handedly done more to damage the image of a Ph D than anyone.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 24, 2022 8:38 pm

Never has an incoming government had such an array of PhDs in economics in its parliamentary ranks.

This includes Andrew Leigh, who beclowned himself spectacularly railing against “control” of Australian companies on the basis of their disclosed top shareholders, not realising that the top shareholders were almost entirely custodians who hold the shares for a widespread group of other investors including Australian super funds.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 24, 2022 8:39 pm

Hello from the plague village of Eyam in the Peak District where we have taken a cottage for a few days while we look at the beauty of this area plus some neolithic sites. Yesterday, on our way here, we spent a couple of hours at Creswell Crags, a site which I’d vaguely read about as having very early upper paleolithic traces. In fact it was totally fascinating in its recovered data on Britain’s earliest stone age occupation, some of it Neanderthal, later Homo Sapiens, with some super-rare in Britain cave art, which has remarkable similarities to the cave art we have seen in similar sites in France and Spain ice-age refuge areas. On top of that, the site itself has an archaeological history to pre-ice age occupation by mamoths, aurachs, and other hunted animals as well as 60,000 years ago being a tropic jungle hosting rhinosceros and elephants and similar things. Plus, it is extraordinarily beautiful, where cave-littered cliffs surround a peaceful swan lake leading out to verdant meadows of wildflowers.

Eyam, where we are right now needs no introduction, for it was here that the locals decided to stay put when plague was introduced to just this village, and take provided food delivered contactless, in order to keep the contagion within this village and protect their neighbours in surrounding villages. All pushed for of course by the local Duke who had much to gain by it. Self-sacrifice was the result, with whole families being carried away and tales of tragedies are writ still in the memorial plaques on a lot of the cottages. This one was a plague house too. Makes the modern plague of Covid seem such a non-event in its killing power when compared to the bacterial Black Death in its pneumonic mode here, where two thirds of the villagers died.

calli
calli
May 24, 2022 8:41 pm

Laughable this claim that the Libs have veered right.

It’s a lie.

Has the electorate veered left?

JC
JC
May 24, 2022 8:43 pm

Yeah jupes, so you just laid out a vast left-wing conspiracy for which you have no proof whatsoever.

Fatboy, do you recall the years 2017 + 2018 on the old blog and how you were hounding people with a continual stream of comments about how true Wussiagate was and how Trump was Putin’s little bitch. I do. How did that work out, champ?

Delta A
Delta A
May 24, 2022 8:50 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
May 24, 2022 at 8:03 pm

Another excellent Cassie post.

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2022 8:51 pm

Oh and Jupes is not fat. He’s very slim and handsome and he has a beautiful wife.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
May 24, 2022 8:52 pm

Was just out shopping and saw in the carpark an enormous has-guzzling four-wheel-drive which had obviously never left a sealed road, covered in stickers promoting one of the woke-teal pseudo-independents.

If I had had a pen and paper on me, I
would have left a note under the windscreen asking ‘If you’re so concerned about the bloody environment and emissions, why don’t you drive a small sedan or ride a bike? Or is making sacrifices for Gaia only for the lower orders of rednecks, bogans and proles?’

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2022 8:52 pm

“Delta Asays:
May 24, 2022 at 8:50 pm”

Thank you Delta.

Winston Smith
May 24, 2022 8:53 pm

Salvatore:
Interesting story from the Old Fart Nursing Network.
There is an electorate in Northern NSW where one of the Tea Ladies used to be a rabid Green Party Member. Spent an amazing amount of money on advertising. When it was pointed out that her Greens Party membership may have some bearing on her voting preferences, was rumoured to have gone ballistic with all kinds of threats from the legal sector.
She got turfed.
Ha ha.

JC
JC
May 24, 2022 8:53 pm

This is just insanity. The cleanest continent on the planet and the folks living on it (in rural regions) say that climate change is their biggest concern. FMD

Exit polling conducted in the rural NSW seats of Gilmore, Page and Eden-Monaro has suggested that climate and environment policy were a key priority area for regional voters at the May 21 election.

Across all three seats, more than 40 per cent of those surveyed said climate change and the environment were in the top three issues informing their vote.

And more than 20 per cent across all three seats nominated climate and the environment as the key policy area on which they voted.

I tend to think the climate issue is far more serious than what folks here believe. No, not like that! 🙂
I think it’s a serious issue in the electorate and it needs to be dealt with immediately (on the Right). Just go retard nuke and then smoke out the nuke denialists. FFS, if the Finnish green party has moved to fully embracing nuke energy then so can the stupid punters here.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2022 8:56 pm

How did that work out, champ?

mUnted can’t come to the phone right now.

There’s a hooker pissing on his pillow, and he’s directing the stream.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
May 24, 2022 8:56 pm

The best character reference for Kenneally came from her Labor predecessor as NSW Premier, Nathan Rees: ‘If I’m not premier at 8 o’clock tonight, then whoever is will be a creature of Eddie Obeid and Joe Tripodi.’ We all know who replaced Rees as premier, don’t we?

JC
JC
May 24, 2022 8:59 pm

We’ve had adverse weather in the north eastern regions of Australia. Could that be making these people more sensitive to gerbil warming hysteria?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 24, 2022 9:01 pm

Yeah jupes, so you just laid out a vast left-wing conspiracy for which you have no proof whatsoever.

You sound like a crazy person.

This from munty, who screeches that cleansing voter rolls of the dead, those who have changed state of residence, and non-citizens constitutes the latest iteration of Jim Crow (Wasn’t that a DemonRat initiative?), and that requiring voter identification to vote has no purpose but to suppress the votes of DemonRat supporters.

He sounds like a crazy person.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 9:02 pm

As you’ve refused to answer this to date, I’ll help. Because the winning candidate didn’t necessarily want a handful of Maritime Law fanbois from The Last Holdout claiming he stole the seat from Clive.

Another scenario occurred to me today.
The bloke has been campaigning for six weeks but he pretty much knows he has it in the bag.
He tells his missus it will be wrapped up by Monday arvo with a concession and then they are off on holidays. Then the AEC guy makes a rookie error in calling the likely quinella for the preference distribution. The winner calls it out and they restart the count.
Why did he do that?
Because he knew the error would become obvious by Monday, the whole goat rodeo would re-start, he and his scrutineers (with their day jobs) would be there until Wednesday and his missus would not be happy.

2dogs
2dogs
May 24, 2022 9:02 pm

Fatboy, do you recall the years 2017 + 2018 on the old blog and how you were hounding people with a continual stream of comments about how true Wussiagate was and how Trump was Putin’s little bitch. I do. How did that work out, champ?

In 2013, Monty was crowing about how the boats could not be stopped. He scoffed at a suggestion I made about how this might be done, saying it was a cross between Gilligan’s Island and Keystone cops. The actual plan implemented (the orange boats) was very similar, and the boats were stopped.

Just last week he failed to argue Russia was losing the war in a series of completely wrong points. One was spectacularly wrong, as only a few days later, news of Russia emerging massive increase in current account surplus came to light. He settled on this bizarre argument of look how many countries are supporting Ukraine. He’ll fail again on that one, but will send it down the memory hole like he always does.

Fleeced
Fleeced
May 24, 2022 9:03 pm

We’ve had adverse weather in the north eastern regions of Australia. Could that be making these people more sensitive to gerbil warming hysteria?

Could be, JC. Could be.

When things are fine we’re told “weather isn’t climate,” but the second we get a spot of bad weather, “this was climate change!”

I think it’s been repeated enough that people expect it. They started pedaling environmental stuff in the 80s and we thought it was a joke, but now every teacher is a true believer and the indoctrination fills every subject. Even maths. 40 years of that, and it’s not surprising people start believing it – especially when they cop a bit of bad weather.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 24, 2022 9:06 pm

Evidence of the Uniparty?

AMP Capital’s economist Shane Oliver noted in his post-election wash-up that the investment manager’s forecast for the economic situation remains unchanged despite a new government.

And when it comes to what it can control, Mr Oliver believes the Albanese government differs very little from its predecessor. “The absence of significant macro policy differences between the new Labor government and the Coalition suggests minimal impact on the share market and the Australian dollar,” he wrote.

Zipster
May 24, 2022 9:08 pm

Never has an incoming government had such an array of PhDs in economics in its parliamentary ranks.

because MMT is the cutting edge of economics with communist characteristics

rickw
rickw
May 24, 2022 9:08 pm

memory hole like he always does

Munty has a self reflection disability. Someone please call NDIS!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 9:08 pm

According to reports on Nine News, Ms Keneally was sighted back at her old home on the Hawkesbury, nearly 70km and a world away from the streets of Liverpool where made her home during the election.

I thought yesterday that it would be really funny to hire a Man With a Van to knock on her door and offer to move her stuff to Liverpool.

2dogs
2dogs
May 24, 2022 9:10 pm

The absence of significant macro policy differences between the new Labor government and the Coalition suggests minimal impact on the share market and the Australian dollar

It will be interesting to see how AnAl responds to the inflation and interest rate rises coming down pipeline.

Vicki
Vicki
May 24, 2022 9:14 pm

One less mean girl in the Senate. Maybe Kimberley up there smiling.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2022 9:15 pm

Fleeced says:
May 24, 2022 at 9:03 pm
We’ve had adverse weather in the north eastern regions of Australia. Could that be making these people more sensitive to gerbil warming hysteria?

These electorates have long coastal boundaries that have been infested with urban sea changers.
I’d hazard a guess that the inland booths weren’t quizzed on climate change.

P
P
May 24, 2022 9:19 pm

2022 has been the most dynamic election in my lifetime since 1949.
That change of ’49 brought about the end of war restrictions such as petrol use and the necessity of coupons for essentials (butter being one of them). In leaps and bounds our country went ahead in the ’50s. The 60s were good enough to allow us to buy a house. Thereafter there were ups and downs that affected some or even many but most managed to keep afloat and further prosper even if in a small way.
This is the first time in my lifetime I have felt depressed after a federal election. Maybe before disappointed, but never depressed.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 24, 2022 9:23 pm

This is the first time in my lifetime I have felt depressed after a federal election. Maybe before disappointed, but never depressed.

Cheer up. We’ve now got a record number of PhD economists to give advice.

Zipster
May 24, 2022 9:26 pm

Or is making sacrifices for Gaia only for the lower orders of rednecks, bogans and proles?’

duh!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 24, 2022 9:27 pm

news from Guardian…

‘If you fall asleep it’s OK’: Biden applauds Albanese’s determination to attend Quad summit

Joe Biden implies its okay for both of these national figureheads to fall asleep at Quad conferences.

The ChiFasc strategy is predictable: attack at morning nap time.

Zipster
May 24, 2022 9:29 pm

It will be interesting to see how AnAl responds to the inflation and interest rate rises coming down pipeline.

it’s as clear as daylight, more handouts, more taxes, MMT is the one true eco-nomika!

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 24, 2022 9:30 pm

Monty.
You believe ladies can have penises.
You also think chemically castrating kids is a good idea.

Tick tock tick tock… Mullerween is coming???

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2022 9:31 pm

vr at 8:12.

“Unsubstantiated, shrill, partisan, self-serving, apocalyptic warnings are ALWAYS wrong,” one of his slides noted.

Something in that for all of us.

custard
custard
May 24, 2022 9:36 pm

I also feel gutted about the election result.

At this stage look to the USA for a circuit breaker to our situation.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2022 9:44 pm

Talking to myself over on the old thread.

“Sliante” to all you horrible mob. Mme Zulu (H/T Joanna) is halfway through her course of treatment, and the doctor says she is doing very well…

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2022 9:46 pm

“Mme Zulu (H/T Joanna) is halfway through her course of treatment, and the doctor says she is doing very well…”

Great news.

Fleeced
Fleeced
May 24, 2022 9:48 pm

I also feel gutted about the election result.

Long term it might be for the best. Surely, you’d have been gutted with what happened to the country over the past 2 years, and ScoMo’s role in facilitating it?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2022 9:56 pm

Something in that for all of us.

Some of us, anyway.

jupes
jupes
May 24, 2022 10:04 pm

Yeah jupes, so you just laid out a vast left-wing conspiracy for which you have no proof whatsoever.

Well, except for the movie. There is that … Oh, and the fact that they shut down the counting and sent the Republican scrutineers home on election night, before continuing the count in the six swing states. Which we all watched on CCTV. There is that too. But apart from that there on proof whatsoever. None … Unless, of course, you play the video evidence of Ruby Freeman feeding the same stack of ballots into the counting machine three times … So apart from 2000 mules, the illegal counting and the video evidence of Ruby Freeman, there is absolutely no proof … Except for the all the illegal votes uncovered in the Arizona audit.

But yeah, spot on M0nty. No proof whatsoever. Fairest election ever.

miltonf
miltonf
May 24, 2022 10:05 pm

Long term it might be for the best. Surely, you’d have been gutted with what happened to the country over the past 2 years, and ScoMo’s role in facilitating it?

and some of the most useless, wishy washy, wastes of space have been removed. As Cassie told us, Sharma has fully outed himself as a full on leftist (as you would expect from a foreign affaires officer who’s never had a real job).

Winston Smith
May 24, 2022 10:08 pm

Fleeced:

Long term it might be for the best. Surely, you’d have been gutted with what happened to the country over the past 2 years, and ScoMo’s role in facilitating it?

The first step of clearing the stables of most of the horseshit has succeeded.
Still some in the corners, but the stableboy will get those.
Now to move the Clydesdales to the right hand side and get them used to some new commands.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2022 10:14 pm

Great news.

Thirty six years, together, in October.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2022 10:15 pm

Sussssan Ley running for deputy PM
Keep this crazy broad away from any leadership role please.

In 2011, Ley publicly supported the admission of the State of Palestine to the United Nations and was reported to be a member of the cross-party Parliamentary Friends of Palestine group.

In May 2018 Ley introduced a private member’s bill to ban the live export of sheep

The Nats just love her to death.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2022 10:19 pm

This includes Andrew Leigh, who beclowned himself spectacularly railing against “control” of Australian companies on the basis of their disclosed top shareholders, not realising that the top shareholders were almost entirely custodians who hold the shares for a widespread group of other investors including Australian super funds.

No coming back from that one. He should have been given the revolver and excused.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2022 10:26 pm

In May 2018 Ley introduced a private member’s bill to ban the live export of sheep

She can afford to “bignote” herself to her electorate – 80% of the live sheep trade comes from Western Australia.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 24, 2022 10:41 pm

Zero coverage, but for Turkey to reverse its opposition to Sweden joining NATO, Erdogan is demanding Sweden stop supporting the Kurds plus a few more extreme things like deporting some PKK chappies back to Turkey.
Doesn’t look like horse trading, looks more like a genuine blockage.

JC
JC
May 24, 2022 10:54 pm

Interesting book review. I didn’t realize it was so pervasive.

Books: Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich by Norman Ohler. The Nazi regime preached an ideology of physical, mental, and moral purity. Yet as Norman Ohler reveals in this gripping history, the Third Reich was saturated with drugs: cocaine, opiates, and, most of all, methamphetamines, which were consumed by everyone from factory workers to housewives to German soldiers. In fact, troops were encouraged, and in some cases ordered, to take rations of a form of crystal meth—the elevated energy and feelings of invincibility associated with the high even help to account for the breakneck invasion that sealed the fall of France in 1940, as well as other German military victories. Hitler himself became increasingly dependent on injections of a cocktail of drugs—ultimately including Eukodal, a cousin of heroin—administered by his personal doctor. Thoroughly researched and rivetingly readable, Blitzed throws light on a history that, until now, has remained in the shadows.

Struth
May 24, 2022 11:00 pm

They all stopped counting at three in the morning for the first time ever in history, and brought in bags of Biden votes overnight….and we all saw it.
Monty, give yourself an uppercut, or let me know where you are……

Punching Nazis is something you have no problem with.

Goodness, a few question for Dave Karma Sharma…given his statement today “”If people want to go ideologically to the right, good luck to them, but don’t ever expect to form government”,”

There’s so much wrong with this statement that the person who made it, Sharma, if it had a brain would be embarrassed.
He’s admitting to the lust for power at all costs.
Forming a socialist government just so you can be in government, Dave, is, in your case, a Liberal party member, a traitorous act .
Or to use the language of the lower classes here, like JC, you’re a dead c…nt.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 24, 2022 11:02 pm

Blitzed is quite interesting, but a bit repetitive.

Travelin' man
Travelin’ man
May 24, 2022 11:03 pm

Timothy Neilson says:
May 24, 2022 at 4:54 pm

That one woman probably had relatives in different electorates she was dropping votes off for.

That’s totally believable m0nty. I’m 100% convinced.
And I’m sure there’s a similar good reason behind every single one of the instances geo-tracked and filmed.

Given the time of day they were filmed, yes it’s totally believable.
Sure thing. She must have been a very hardworking individual, only time to post votes is at 4 AM

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 24, 2022 11:04 pm

Nocturnal bookish types… I need a new pageturner to help me drift off and escape from this morass.
Anyone read and recommend the Nightside books, Simon R Green?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2022 11:06 pm

Blitzed is quite interesting, but a bit repetitive.

Didn’t the American’s and British hand out Benzedrine tablets, like Christmas lollies?

Gabor
Gabor
May 24, 2022 11:12 pm

I think Numbers was less of a nuisance than m0nty.
No, don’t want him back.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 24, 2022 11:13 pm

JCsays:
May 24, 2022 at 10:54 pm….PERVITIN. It was meths sold in german shops in lifesaver type form. The allies laced chocolate with speed , thus the old saying chocolate gives you energy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2022 11:17 pm

I think Numbers was less of a nuisance than m0nty.
No, don’t want him back

Numbers swallowed the North Vietnamese propaganda line hook, line and sinker. What’s been written in the past twenty years, with access to the North Vietnamese archives, proves that.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 24, 2022 11:20 pm

After ww1 germany lost a lot of its coffee growing colonies and coffee became a luxury in germany. So cheap chemical stimulants like meths got used. Cocaine was used in the higher income brackets.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2022 11:32 pm

Election 2022: Zealots ousted for assault on super, says Paul Keating

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Paul Keating says the “cultural warriors” and “zealots” in the ­Liberal Party who tried to put a “wrecking ball” through super­annuation have paid the ultimate price by losing their seats and contributing to the defeat of Scott Morrison’s government.

The former prime minister, who welcomed Labor’s election victory, said the Liberal Party had marginalised itself by failing to ­accept that superannuation, like Medicare, was now a “community standard” that gave working Australians economic independence.

Paul Keating? Yesterday’s “Angry ghost?” Who cares?

Bruce in WA
May 24, 2022 11:53 pm

Thirty six years, together, in October.

‘Bout the same as us … 37 years in December.

Mind you, we woz shacked up for 7 years before that! 🙂

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 25, 2022 12:03 am

What a difference an ABC-friendly federal election makes:

Mark McGowan dreams up uses for redundant $200m quarantine facility and ServiceWA app

Lolllllllllll slight change in tone there. Could give you whiplash.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 25, 2022 12:19 am

Exit polling conducted in the rural NSW seats of Gilmore, Page and Eden-Monaro has suggested that climate and environment policy were a key priority area for regional voters at the May 21 election.

Someone is sucking his own dick big time.
Gilmore and Page are among the few electorates where there are TPP swings to the Coalition.
And in Eden-Monaro the Nats didn’t run a candidate this time, which cost the Coalition lots of votes.

amortiser
amortiser
May 25, 2022 1:40 am

Exit polling conducted in the rural NSW seats of Gilmore, Page and Eden-Monaro has suggested that climate and environment policy were a key priority area for regional voters at the May 21 election.

People may think that climate and environmental policy are a priority but that doesn’t mean that they support what is proposed. They may well be vehemently opposed to it to such an extent that it will influence their vote above other issues.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 3:24 am

Knowing Jupes as I do, he’s not a crazy person. He’s intelligent, thoughtful, measured, articulate and urbane….probably quite the opposite of you.

I herby confirm everything that Cassie has said about Jupes and his lovely lady, indeed his sisters and his adult nephew too, whom we met on a Cat night at the pub. Excellent people, all of them. Hairy and I also drove Jupes and his wife around Sydney a for a minor tour of our old haunts on their way back to their hotel from Rabz’s place once. Jupes also has a wicked grin and is indeed very handsome.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 3:41 am

Today we did Neolithic to two sites recommended by Hairy’s retired barrister friend, who like me is into things Neolithic. Firstly, a longish drive down to a place called the Anchor Church, which is a dug out series of river caves formed aeons ago by the River Trent and refashioned by human hands (some of them Neolithic people I suspect) and which in medieval times was a prison for high ranking royals (i.e. a sacred enough place for them) and which also became a cell for an ‘anchorite’ Christian female hermit. It was a long hidden walk across two huge fields and through a path clogged with stinging nettles, but it was worth it. Hard to find, tremendously neglected (rubbish in it from vagrants) but completely extraordinary. You can still get things like that in Britain, where the National Trust and English Heritage have not yet appeared to make a tourist feature of them.

Similarly one could say that about another place we stopped on our way home at henge and stone circle called Arbor Low, on farmland donating our pound each to the farmer for access. English Heritage claim possession but it is rather abandonned to its fate anyway. All of the stone circles have been flattened long ago. The sign says maybe by local Christians vs pagans, but I suspect not. The siting of this circle (the largest extant one in northern Britain) is dominating and very much as the key circles elsewhere have been: focussed on the bowl of the sky in a grand circle of hills. These stones have been flattened for longer than medieval times, it seems to me; probably by Romans knocking out the last of the Druidic resistance to the Roman take-over of the leadmines, I surmise, and Hairy agrees. This smacks of punishment and on a major scale, he says, thinking as I do that the Roman army would have been needed to do such a thorough and punitive job as was done here. Food for thought, and I’ll see what the ex-barrister thinks when we meet up in London again before we leave on June 1.

We drive home on a series of narrow country roads inhabited by extremely large trucks, as happens in Britain, led along by our constant female companion, the woman in the GPS, with whom Hairy is making constant argument about her cross-country choices, and also her refusal to sometimes bend to his will on the touch screen, although he goes along with mostly in the end. I sympathise with her, for she gets some of the impatient aggro during drives that is often my sorry lot. Calm down, I say.

I am patient, but apparently a back seat driver. Who knew??

Tom
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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 25, 2022 4:35 am

Thanks Tom. I dunno what Garrison was on about.

Winston Smith
May 25, 2022 4:40 am

https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/23/the-economic-doom-loop-has-begun/

High inflation, overregulation, and a general sense that things are going in the wrong direction remind us of the late 1970s and early ’80s. But today the underlying problems that were responsible for our woes in that time are vastly worse. The coming reckoning for Washington’s insanely irresponsible monetary policy may dwarf the troubles from all recent recessions and periods of inflation.

Gabor
Gabor
May 25, 2022 5:12 am

DrBeauGan says:
May 25, 2022 at 4:35 am

Thanks Tom. I dunno what Garrison was on about.

Most of the overseas toons leave me in the dark, except the English ones, don’t know the context but I gather it’s something to do with Boris. Ozzy ones are good both visually and on message, bar that idiot Rowe. Most of the time incomprehensible.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 25, 2022 5:33 am

Gilmore and Page are among the few electorates where there are TPP swings to the Coalition.
Because the Liberal and National Party candidates were on board with the Coalition approach to NetZero.
It was the Fake moderates who got turfed, remember?
The genuine Moderates increased their margins.
There’s a lesson there:
Stick to your Party’s Policies and don’t go DogWhistlin’ for votes from Dumbos.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 25, 2022 5:37 am

In May 2018 Ley introduced a private member’s bill to ban the live export of sheep

The Nats just love her to death.

Yeah, that’s why her majority is 22,000, while the fake moderates got turfed.
Keeping Meat Processing jobs in Australia is always good policy, particularly in the Sheep heavy Farrer.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 6:16 am

The former prime minister, who welcomed Labor’s election victory, said the Liberal Party had marginalised itself by failing to ­accept that superannuation, like Medicare, was now a “community standard” that gave working Australians economic independence.

Keating thinks paying 12% of your wages into a fund literally owned by the Commonwealth is creating economic independence?

As for Medicare, what did it objectively do other than enrich doctors? Is health care objectively less or more for similar services before Medicare?

I thought economic independence was not to do with welfare dependence but decades of prosperity before Whitlam and Keating…and having your own money in your own bank account you own, outright home home ownership…

…and not governments being equity partners or pulling everyone’s health and retirement plans through an inefficient bureaucracy.

Geez what a plonker.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 6:42 am

Step one, taken by the barrel-stuffers (the NT News):

Following the state’s Emergency Management Council meeting on Tuesday, Premier Peter Malinauskas announced that the state’s major emergency declaration was over.

The declaration was first implemented almost 800 days ago as the Covid-19 pandemic took over the world. It was extended 28 times.

Six to go.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 25, 2022 6:43 am

Keating’s comments show just how much of an imposition Tim Wilson was to industry super for the last 4 years.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 6:44 am

Geez what a plonker.

I was going to say cranky filthy rich communist Sinophile attention whore, but yeah – plonker works.

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 6:47 am

Now, whilst I’m not advocating any knee jerk suspension/abolition of the live export trade, akin to what happened over a decade ago, I do admit that I’ve never liked it. I think it’s cruel. Now please note that this opinion doesn’t make me some militant vegan or “animal rights” campaigner. I would prefer the animals to be slaughtered here and then exported. But I find it slightly ironic that the same progressives/leftists who decry the live expert industry are at the same time loathe to criticise why the animals are treated so brutally on arrival at the their respective destinations, usually in the Middle East. The treatment towards animals in the Islamic world is barbaric, brutal and shocking but you won’t here a peep out of the activists and their media mouthpieces such as the ABC about that. One of the board members of Animals Australia is Melissa Parke, who is the same former ALP member for Fremantle and was the ALP candidate for the seat of Curtin three years ago. Parke is a well known Israel hater, has dallied with anti-Semitic tropes (I suspect she and Zoo Daniel are great mates) and is a well known campaigner for the Palestinians. I’d like to know Ms Parke’s opinions about the treatment of animals in Gaza and on the West Bank because the truth is that the conditions are shocking. Ms Parke is oddly mute aboutthis. I suspect this unpalatable truth would not accord with the policies of Animals Australia.

Just my two bob’s worth.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 25, 2022 6:47 am

For the first time in 2022 Russian gas to Europe drops below 250mcm/d.
During March it touched 400mill.
As any business knows who can’t access credit, cash flow is king.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 6:48 am

Islam was right about women and animal slaughtering!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 6:54 am

14 elementary school kids shot and killed, along with a teacher in Texas.

Shooter dead as well.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 25, 2022 6:55 am

APRA has decreed that their long term goal is for there to be 10-12 industry super funds.
And they will force mergers until that happens.
If anyone thinks the Blackrock, Vanguard situation demonstrates concentration risk, just wait until there are only a dozen industry super funds left.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 25, 2022 6:56 am

I can’t remember voting for APRA.
I can’t remember the last time an organ of the government forced an industry into becoming a cartel.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 6:56 am

The shooter was 18.

Marvellous.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 6:59 am

We’ve been here three weeks now and in the more southern climes we were starting to notice how the Spring was progressing, with the delicate Queen Anne’s Lace fanciwork in the stalky flowers on the roadsides and in the meadows (otherwise known as Cow Parsley) beginning to lose the whiteness of their lacey florets and were starting to turn green, anticipating summer’s full growth just as were the hawthorne hedgerows and May bushes. The trees too were full in leaf, producing those broad leafs curtains of colder climates where masses of chlorophyll over large leaf areas is all the go for them. The horse chestnut trees, some of Britain’s largest trees, otherwise called Candle Trees due to their cone shaped flowers, initially like huge decorations in either white or pink on a Christmas tree, and clamouring for attention, were beginning to lose their floral colouring to further reproductive developments.

Here in the Peak district however things are still in the earlier Spring phase, with cottage garden flowers still having their initial bloom of freshness and an occasional variety of tree entering late into the Spring fray, only just now shyly producing unfurling leaf buds. Throughout England now, just as we have to leave, summer will bloom in fits and starts in June and then become extravagant in July and August, to fade away into wind-rustled russets in September and October. The seaons rule, as ever, in England.

No wonder Shakespeare was so fond of them as symbols and metaphors. Every year offers the reminder of birth, youth, full adulthood and decline; enough to make one melancholy if one couldn’t feel an anticipation of it happening all over again, and again, and again. How sad it must have made the poor folk of Eyam, as their families died away over the two plague years as the seasons remained patterning as usual, while the promise of repetitions was being severely curtailed.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 7:03 am

Cross posted to give succour to my vanity.

Interesting to see if the votes counted later on will change any seats, let alone who holds certain commissions!

If the turnout is 80% and the informal vote is 7%, the uniparty getting 78% of that all up is utterly pathetic considering how the media runs dead on any decent minor party.

They got a touch under 57% support with compulsory voting. For apparently three opposing ideologies?

43% of the population does not approve; even with coercion and welfare handed out like by a carpet bombing B52.

No government has a mandate at all other than to act as an administrator.

The objectively most pressing issues, as a sensible government to tackle are:

1. Pay down all of our public debt back to zero from 1.2 trillion AUD.
2. Continue the process of getting more powerful military equipment such as cruise missiles, better nuclear powered subs and punish cheating military contractors; procurement may be one legitimate area where corruption exists.
3. If we eventually choose economically destructive policies such as banning coal or petroleum, then we need to insulate ourselves with nuclear power and thorium & uranium mining
4. Property prices are so absurd they will eventually destroy labour supply in the cities. Tackling the lack of supply of new land development and concentration of government jobs in metros must occur. Current policies will only stimulate demand whilst supply will remain constrained.
5. Give everyone back their civil liberties. No one voted for the Public Health Acts or the e-Safety Commissioner.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 7:07 am

The Peaks, Lake District and my ancestral homelands in Avon, Wiltshire & Bristol are bucket list items for sure.

Also, third cousin chumley’s stately old home in Shropshire.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 25, 2022 7:08 am

Yeah, that’s why her majority is 22,000, while the fake moderates got turfed.
Keeping Meat Processing jobs in Australia is always good policy, particularly in the Sheep heavy Farrer.

22,000 must be a number of great significance to Sussan as she is a keen numerologist.
The number of sheep processed in Australia is exactly as demand requires.
Ed, you know very little about many things.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 7:08 am

Can you travel to Imber or is it closed off as an ordnance range for the British Army?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 25, 2022 7:09 am

Cassie – Unfortunately the same sort of thing leads to a shortage of kosher food, due to mandated abattoir practices which aren’t friendly to Judaistic requirements.

PM Boris Johnson ‘sickened’ by lack of access to kosher meat in Belfast (18 May)

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 7:10 am

Gez

I was under the impression there were sheep slaughterhouses in Junee, Cowra & Dubbo.

All of which are not in Susan Ley’s electorate!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 7:13 am

Give everyone back their civil liberties. No one voted for the Public Health Acts or the e-Safety Commissioner.

*applause*

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 7:17 am

“feelthebernsays:
May 25, 2022 at 6:43 am
Keating’s comments show just how much of an imposition Tim Wilson was to industry super for the last 4 years.”

Yep and Andrew Bragg’s too…the only reason Bragg survives is because he’s in the senate.

Which brings me to the following….

I, like most others here, welcome the decapitation of the moderates from the party however the unpalatable truth is that we need a Liberal Party that also has some moderates in it. I don’t want a Liberal Party that is just made up of ALL conservatives. I do think Tim Wilson and Josh are a loss to the party, their achievements are greater than Mardi Gras Zimmerman or Pirate Man’s buddy Falinsky or the wet lettuce leaf Karma Sharma or the execrable Katie Allen and Fiona Martin. Without a doubt the aforementioned pushed the party too far left because there were no strong conservative voices to both pushback and rein them in. The purge of conservatives began under Turdbull, Turdbull could have provided some balance but instead, being the mean vindictive piece of shit that he is, he sidelined Abbott and other conservative voices. I’m happy to be stand corrected but I can’t think of a notable Liberal conservative in either the Turdbull or Morrison cabinets.

The decapitated moderates pushed and pushed for net zero emission and also other fashionable far-left progressive policies, trampling on the party and its base. For this they’ve paid a heavy price and apart from Wilson and Frydenberg, I have zero sympathy for them. As I wrote here last night, I now have zero sympathy for Karma Sharma. He’s now blaming Morrison and “warning about the party going too far right”….LOL, just fuck of Dave. The mistakes are obvious, under Morrison they pushed too far left, ignored the base and sidelined strong conservative voices in the party thus contributing to Saturday’s massive loss. Their pettiness probably forced Morrison to silence conservative backbenchers like Kelly and Christensen. Now whilst I have no proof of this, I suspect it to be so. And where was former IPA and free speech advocate Tim Wilson in all of this? Wilson, despite his obvious differences with Kelly and Christensen, should have publicly supported them but instead he chose silence. Coward. So much for free speech and tolerating dissent and mavericks in the party, a tradition that goes back to Menzies. No, these moderates, full of hubris, were intent on purging the party of ALL conservative voices. How did that go? Well, last Saturday night we witnessed the first large scale public executions in over a century. I found it gruesome….the blood was everywhere.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 7:20 am

Barnaby. Oh, Barnaby…… (the Hun):

Barnaby Joyce has declared that he’s “not going anywhere” as rumours swirl of a leadership challenge in the Nationals party room in the wake of Saturday night’s election results.

“I’m not going anywhere,” Mr Joyce said, regarding rumours that either Darren Chester or David Littleproud might consider challenging their leader and calls for the Liberal party to become more “moderate” to court so-called “teal” voters.

Scott Morrison said this morning that Mr Joyce had his full and unqualified support.

Oh. Hang on.

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 7:22 am

“Cassie – Unfortunately the same sort of thing leads to a shortage of kosher food, due to mandated abattoir practices which aren’t friendly to Judaistic requirements.”

I fail to see the analogy. What has kosher or halal methods of slaughter (which are almost similar) got to do with live export from Australia and the conditions of the animals?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 7:23 am

We’ve just had a meal in a local pub, not with many tabs on itself so not gastro, just solid (stolid?) food. This Peak District village however is well-populated with locals and visitors of the chattering classes sort, and three of them were near us. Did you hear what they were saying? whispers Hairy to me as they left. Nope, I say, I tuned out on the accents. Covid is still rampant and people should be staying home, he elucidates re their general theme, and also climate change is upon us, of course. I thought the two women were thin, undernourished, wet-nosed and droopy, I tell him, and the man not much better. And from their general tones of sniffy condemnations, paid-up members the miserable classes. The miserable classes, he says, testing the metaphor and liking it. These people are joyless, he says, which I am not, and perhaps that’s why he likes me.

A group of three tradies then come in for beers. I start to talk to them when I hear them say they can no longer stick to quotes they made some months ago, because building materials and everything else has gone up 45% in some cases. It’s not just Britain, it’s Australia too, I say, and we get chatting. They were genuinely scornful about Covid lockdowns and politicians in general; we’re practical people, said one, which they wanted to make clear to us. Something comes up on the TV and we don’t think it’s right, from what we know, we say so. Men after Hairy’s own heart.

What a difference to that first lot, he says as we walk back to our cottage.

calli
calli
May 25, 2022 7:26 am

On Garrison’s “Elephant in the Room”, I’m picking the uncritical acceptance of everything that vomits from our laptops. The whirlwind of disinformation, outright lies, astroturfing and mischief all painting opposing and often sinister causes as benign, people caught up in it all and swept far away.

Another young man has decided to murder little school children today. What made him decide to do that?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 25, 2022 7:27 am

I would think Bush is in the Farrer electorate of Sussan Ley.
I’m making calls from a distance, he might have a same or different opinion of the lady.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 25, 2022 7:31 am

Kellyanne Conway’s book launch & media tour performances (so far) make me think she will be the Trump surrogate filling the VP slot at the 2024 elections.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 25, 2022 7:41 am

I fail to see the analogy. What has kosher or halal methods of slaughter (which are almost similar) got to do with live export from Australia and the conditions of the animals?

Cassie – When you have regulation of slaughtering practices you get what the progressives want, so mandatory stunning. Jewish methods are excluded, but so are Muslim ones.

There was the same sort of controversy in Belgium which led to this:

Belgium bans ritual halal and kosher animal slaughter over welfare concerns (2019)

It becomes difficult if you have Jewish people wanting kosher and Muslim people wanting halal to then exclude the Muslims because they’re barbaric. The lefties can’t see the difference, and if you favour one over the other that’s “discriminatory” (even though it isn’t really).

So you then have no kosher slaughter in Australia because progressives want it done their way. And you have no export of kosher or halal meat for that reason.

As for the live export trade I am ambivalent. On the one hand it can be done better. On the other hand it is a target for unprincipled people I detest, like the ABC. Which leans me towards it.

I do not like killing animals or birds. I have had to do so due to orders. It isn’t nice. I do the best I can, and avoid it when I can. But the problem with regulating such things is you end up with bureaucratic insanity, as we see with just about anything the government gets involved with. Between no regulation and stupid impossible regulation I choose no regulation. Unfortunately there isn’t a middle way whilst the progressive nannies hold sway.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 7:46 am

The former prime minister, who welcomed Labor’s election victory, said the Liberal Party had marginalised itself by failing to ­accept that superannuation, like Medicare, was now a “community standard” that gave working Australians economic independence.

what a load of bullshit.

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 7:48 am

“When you have regulation of slaughtering practices you get what the progressives want,”

What are you talking about? I was discussing the live export trade, which is a different topic to a discussion about the merits or not of kosher/halal slaughter.

Animals can be slaughtered here in Australia, using halal methods and the meat shipped to the middle east.

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 7:53 am

Dreadful news from Texas.

shatterzzz
May 25, 2022 7:54 am

I would think Bush is in the Farrer electorate of Sussan Ley.

Shirley, anywhere n Oz where Suzy can get a “free” ride too to check out property deals is in her electorate ……
Dudzy Biloela and Suzy “LJ Hooker” Ley .. the Libs lookin’ good! .. LOL!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 25, 2022 7:57 am

Animals can be slaughtered here in Australia, using halal methods and the meat shipped to the middle east.

It’s about consumer choice Cassie.
There is a market for live animals in the region and Australia opting out would only see that demand filled from other countries and not from our processed product.
The aguement that we are losing out on jobs and business locally is for the most part false.

Bluey
Bluey
May 25, 2022 7:58 am

Gez, maybe you can clarify. I was told by a beef farmer years ago that live export became the preferred method because animal rights types were protesting the slaughter here. It became simpler to push the problem off overseas and give them a win in shutting down a heap of abattoirs, than deal with the constant pressure.

I’m pretty sure it was a load of crap, but it’s just plausible enough…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 25, 2022 8:03 am

I just saw this as a linked tweet in the homepage:

How long do you think it took the fake news Courier-Mail to find a video in which Bernie Finn moved his armed in such a way that they could freeze-frame to imply this?

This is the image referred to.

First I would note that his arm is at the wrong angle – only Adolph held his arm out in front, others had to raise their arms at an angle and above their heads. Also the hand is not in line with the arm. Oh, and wrong arm.

I also remember the same trick being played on Gillard with precisely the same lack of credibility. A much better one true as arm and hand were all correct. But, for all her plenteous flaws, Gillard was not a Nasti. She was a bully, a misanthrope, and a opportunist, but not a Nasti. She was likely waving to someone at a distance and a photo taken at the right moment was enough.

J’ism in this country really is the abode of little people who have completely lost sight of what a story is (much as an ant can never see an elephant – just the toe) and think that their little photographic or verbal tricks are it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 25, 2022 8:05 am

What are you talking about? I was discussing the live export trade, which is a different topic to a discussion about the merits or not of kosher/halal slaughter.

Cassie – You were talking about export of meat slaughtered here as an alternative to live export. That’s the problem in Nthrn Ireland and Belgium. Jewish people there have to get their kosher meat from other countries because kosher slaughter is banned. And you think it isn’t going to be banned in Australia? Of course it will be, that’s the progressive religion which is antithetical to Judaism.

What you were advocating is no export meat industry*, since the Muslims won’t buy un-halal meat and we won’t export live animals if live export is banned. Thus the farmers suffer because they’re caught between two religions – Islam and progressive greenery. There’s no middle way.

(* Yes there’re other countries like Japan, Korea, China and etc, but they’re parochial and often put barriers in the way of our exports for nationalistic reasons.)

johanna
johanna
May 25, 2022 8:07 am

My understanding is that one of the main reasons for live exports of meat animals is that the retailers (e.g. local markets) and their customers do not have access to, or can’t afford, refrigeration. Therefore they want live animals that can be butchered where and when they are about to be sold.

If we stop supplying these markets, another country, quite likely one with less stringent standards than ours, will step in.

It is not the case that refrigerated meat can be substituted in these markets.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 25, 2022 8:10 am

Bluey.
The live trade developed to give an alternative market for older stock such as wool wethers.
Prices for the stock were so low that shooting was a better option some times.
The trade put a floor price under the meat market and helped raise base prices in all grades as a consequence.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 8:12 am

I think I might be the human equivalent of an old woolly wether.

rickw
rickw
May 25, 2022 8:13 am

Catching first flight in 2 years.

Fuck the fucking Mongs running this country.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cassie of Sydney says: May 25, 2022 at 6:47 am

Now, whilst I’m not advocating any knee jerk suspension/abolition of the live export trade, akin to what happened over a decade ago, I do admit that I’ve never liked it. I think it’s cruel.

If you could specify the cruelty, it’d be most helpful to the thousands of jobs tied to that industry.
There’s sure to be something they’ve missed. Outside eyes are always helpful.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Bruce of Newcastle says: May 25, 2022 at 7:41 am

As for the live export trade I am ambivalent. On the one hand it can be done better.

Please specify how it can be done better.
There’s an entire industry out there which never ceases striving to do it better. Thousands of jobs swing on that industry.
If you feel they’re missing something, please let ’em know.

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:16 am

I thought the high cost of processing here made meat unaffordable in places like Indonesia, which also doesn’t have the capacity to store chilled or frozen meat.
Plus we don’t want Indonesia to be creating refrigerated facilities because gaia would cry.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 25, 2022 8:19 am

rickw, how is Mrs w doing?

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:20 am

Reminds me of how conditions on convict ships improved when the shippers got paid live head delivered rather than up front, whatever.
It’s in the shippers’ best interests to made sure livestock arrive at the other end in good order.
As for ‘Australian’ beasts being mistreated at the other end I understand that’s also been addressed, as far as practicable.

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:23 am

Has Elbow announced the government manufacturering of low cost EVs, our very own Aussie Trabant yet?
2030 beckons.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 25, 2022 8:26 am

Please specify how it can be done better.

Having shipboard guys who are professional and not like that turd who took ABC’s money would be a start. Again that’s a whole ‘nuther question – the manning of ships. I don’t know the answer but that guy should be gaoled on bread and water for ten years for what he did.

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:27 am

Driving west to east at knockoff time yesterday saw a couple of commuter cyclists in Footscray, despite all the facilities they are very few in number.
Crossing Royal Pde in Parkville, approximately a dozen whizzed by, but all in all the numbers are pathetic. Besides which a mere affectation on a route well serviced by trams.

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:29 am

BoN
One out of thousands who apparently was paid to do the dirty.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 25, 2022 8:32 am

Rosie
Once you slaughter here you also need to have a good paying outlet for the meat and the offcuts. The demand for the meat and bone that isn’t useable for human use is in the eastern and southern states.

That’s why the Gillard Indonesian ban was so devastating. The northern stock had to be freighted south and east for slaughter.

The far north has always been hamstrung by distance, ports and markets close enough to attract good throughout and the shipping to match.

  1. When European governments won’t even do that how are they going to save anything else from the Muslim conquest?

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