Open Thread – Tues 11 Oct 2022


Battle of Poitiers, Charles de Steuben, 1834-37

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 7:13 pm

And, to be fair, Pell can appear cold and abrupt.
Yes, yes, I know.
Shouldn’t matter.
But it can influence jurors.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
October 12, 2022 7:13 pm

It’s OK for highly qualified experts to lie to you for 2+ years but it’s not OK for Aker to ask the question.
Use different search engines and different phrases

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 12, 2022 7:15 pm

Hi Zulu
It’s Maquis, not Marquis.
Here they are:

Politically, the Maquis included socialists, communists, and anarchists. Some Maquis bands that operated in southwest France were composed entirely of left-wing Spanish veterans of the Spanish Civil War.
Wiki

In other words, they were Communist cutthroats who’d gotten away with crucifying Priests and Nuns during the Spanish Civil War.
By the way, ever heard of the Phoenix Program?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 12, 2022 7:16 pm

Roger.
We had 280mm from Sept-Nov last year and had excellent crops.

132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2022 7:16 pm

Gez,
Discussion today re ULV insecticide via aircraft.
1.5-2l/ha
Have you had any experience?

Reason being the local strips are becoming unusable and operating from paved runways becoming the only option.

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2022 7:17 pm

Still not convinced that amounts to reckless.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2022 7:17 pm

“In a normal jurisdiction it is a good tactic.”

Yep……but worries me is that the ACT isn’t a normal jurisdiction.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 12, 2022 7:20 pm

By the way, the Moon Landing was faked.
I called it in 1969, spent the arvo looking for golf balls while the dopes watched the TV.

Leon L.
Leon L.
October 12, 2022 7:22 pm

Hindsight is great Roger, I don’t know that the people of Europe, the US etc really have afforded to wait for that perfect product.

Covid-19 is an airborne respiratory pathogen with low mortality.
For those less than 70 with no comorbidities, mortality is less than influenza A.
The average age of those dying is greater than average life expectancy.
That fact alone makes it almost impossible for any mitigating plan to reduce mortality from this event.
There has been no evidence supporting any of the measures used since March 2020.
To be clear:
There is no evidence for locking people down, masks, antisocial distancing and novel gene therapy treatments.
There is strong evidence that these cause harm.

The evidence against lockdowns, masks and distancing has been there for 150 years.
Protect the vulnerable as per Great Barrington Declaration July 2020.
The notion that we had to do something was panic, not logic and certainly not science.
To change longstanding practice, requires strong evidence, not feelings.

There has been severe censorship of valid dissenting arguments from respected doctors by medical publishers, the MSM, governments, medical regulators and of course the antisocial media (Meta et al.)
So finding a study to “prove” something, proves nothing.
Valid articles are being retracted using questionable methods from those who have a conflict of interest at a rate not seen in the past.

Everyone who was vaccinated is not going to suddenly drop dead.
But this is biowarfare and the end game is not yet clear.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 7:22 pm

Is Latham’s 8 years up already ?
Why would he move to the lower house when he can get 8 year terms at the top of the ticket each time?
Wonder what the strategy is.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 7:22 pm

Hi Zulu
It’s Maquis, not Marquis.

Big whoop – picked up by Grogarly over a spelling mistake! My life is desolated, with no meaning left at all!

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2022 7:25 pm

Roger.
We had 280mm from Sept-Nov last year and had excellent crops.

Good to hear!

In my travels I’ve noticed VIC & SA farmers talk first about rainfall, whereas Qld farmers talk about soil type.

Different contexts.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 7:28 pm

Turned on the FTA channels as I plan to give the Aussie Kitchen Nightmares a go.
There’s this show on called Home & Away.
Hope they give the show a chance.
It might turn into something big.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2022 7:28 pm

Still not convinced that amounts to reckless.

OK.

More will come out as time permits; they can’t keep a lid on it indefinitely.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2022 7:29 pm

To change longstanding practice, requires strong evidence, not feelings.

Yes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 7:31 pm

Jokes aside, in my younger years I used to watch Neighbours.
The pretty girls were on Neighbours, the birds on Home & Away were always a bit rougher.
Doesn’t look like anything has changed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 7:31 pm

Mater at 4.57, demonstrating that the internet is forever.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2022 7:32 pm

So, did you make an honest woman out of her, Tom?

Try Penthouse Forum, bud.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2022 7:34 pm

feelthebern says:
October 12, 2022 at 7:22 pm
Is Latham’s 8 years up already ?
Why would he move to the lower house when he can get 8 year terms at the top of the ticket each time?
Wonder what the strategy is.

He wants that sweet bear pit action.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 12, 2022 7:35 pm

Leon L.says:
October 12, 2022 at 7:22 pm
Rosie: Hindsight is great Roger, I don’t know that the people of Europe, the US etc really have afforded to wait for that perfect product.

They never had to. Diamond Princess should have been the end of the panic. There never was an emergency that justified injecting people with an experimental concoction.
BTW the jab was never tested for mutagenicity or carcinogenicity. Good luck.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2022 7:36 pm

Speedbox

H2i claims significantly reduced emissions (300 tonnes per annum) per unit compared to diesel internal combustion engines, savings of ~ $90,000 per unit on fuel costs each year and companies can access the lucrative carbon credits system.

Why do I smell (yet) another subsidy harvesting scheme, with no actual outcome in terms of working machinery?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 7:37 pm

Radical cleric Abu Bakar Bashir advocates sharia law for Indonesia on Bali bombing 20th anniversary
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Abu Bakar Bashir, the ageing Islamic cleric said to have given his blessing for the 2002 Bali bombings, has spoken out on the 20th anniversary of the attacks to insist the masterminds of the region’s worst terror strike had “good intentions”.

The 84-year-old firebrand, released from an Indonesian jail in January last year after serving a second term for terror-related offences, told Japan’s Kyodo newswire he believed the bombings were wrong.

But, he added, the three ringleaders executed for their role in the twin bombings that targeted the Kuta nightclub district had “good intentions and purposes” because they were trying to “get rid of sinful deeds” such as music and alcohol, which went against Islamic law.

Senior Jemaah Islamiaah commanders Imam Samudra, Ali Ghufron (Mukhlas) and his brother Amrozi were executed by firing squad in 2008.

Bashir is long alleged to be the spiritual leader of Jemaah Islamiaah, the al-Qa’ida-linked militant group to which the Bali bombing ringleaders belonged, though told Kyodo he was not a JI leader and had no involvement in the Bali attacks.

The 9/11 of our region – which killed 202 people, 88 of them Australian – marked the beginning of a wave of large-scale attacks in Indonesia that brought terrorism to our doorstep.

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2022 7:38 pm

in my younger years I used to watch Neighbours

in my younger days I used to do quiet a bit of work at Ch 10 studios.

the canteen was fun

Nina Tucker was always a hottie

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2022 7:39 pm

Ed Case says:
October 12, 2022 at 7:20 pm
By the way, the Moon Landing was faked.
I called it in 1969, spent the arvo looking for golf balls while the dopes watched the TV.

I bet everyone was happier.

Episode 459 of Blue Hills of Woy Woy

“Algernon (Buffslo) Bill sees lunar landscapes on each balata cover nicked by 1 irons”

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2022 7:40 pm

LOL

Buffalo

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2022 7:42 pm

Everyone who was vaccinated is not going to suddenly drop dead.

No but if you add the apparent fertility reductions, to the puberty blocking stuff, the euthanasia of morose children (see upthread) and all the abortion hysteria, you could just about add it all up to a conspiracy theory about population reduction. WEF and fellow travelers have made no secret that their Gaia-blessed magic number is 500,000,000 souls, or maybe proles, seeing that someone has to manufacture all those little luxuries they like.

Speedbox
October 12, 2022 7:43 pm

Boambee John says:
October 12, 2022 at 7:36 pm

haha. Yes. That reference to ‘lucrative’ was theirs, not mine.

The generator probably works but think of the carbon credit as the cherry on top! 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 7:43 pm

Special dispensation on the Open Thread for a rabid cur and Titties Galore but the rest of us must follow the rules. Is that right, Dover?

The visiting mad uncle’s back, chastising the owner about his choice of floor coverings.

One would surmise that having trapped off about ‘moderating’ a blog in the past, that blog must have been the most wondrous of things to feast one’s peepers upon.

Or, it could have been shit and died through lack of interest.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 7:45 pm

Kitchen Nightmares.
You can see the drugs of choice on show.
One clearly likes the glass bbq.
Another looks more of a weed &/or oxy fan.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 7:45 pm

As a mad uncle can I just say that is quite offensive.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 7:48 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

October 12, 2022 at 7:17 pm

“In a normal jurisdiction it is a good tactic.”

Yep……but worries me is that the ACT isn’t a normal jurisdiction.

Possibly not.
But some comparisons between the Pell case and the Lehrmann case are favourable.
J was permitted to give evidence off-site, by video, with comfort kittens, support staff and convenient “transmission dropouts”. In the second trial, they simply played the tape of J’s performance from the first trial.
Brittnah has had to front the court in person (well, sometimes).
Whybrow has been able to question Britnah about matters of truthfulness and reliability. Richter was restricted to questions immediately around the allegations, and hamstrung as to any questioning which might impugn J’s truthfulness or character.
The media interference is not dissimilar, but the conduct of the trials is very different.

Razey
Razey
October 12, 2022 7:49 pm

in my younger years I used to watch Neighbours

I preferred the Henderson Kids. That blonde chick……

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 7:49 pm

Titties galore ?
Missed that.
Were they Pam Anderson bazoonkas?
Or more manageable like the perfect set Amber Heard has?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 7:49 pm

As a mad uncle

As am I Bear.

However, neither of us provide unsolicited advice as to how to run these august journals of record, let alone a list of demands ten seconds after walking through the door a la Hando from Romper Stomper.

JMH
JMH
October 12, 2022 7:50 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
October 12, 2022 at 7:43 pm

Special dispensation on the Open Thread for a rabid cur and Titties Galore but the rest of us must follow the rules. Is that right, Dover?

The visiting mad uncle’s back, chastising the owner about his choice of floor coverings.

One would surmise that having trapped off about ‘moderating’ a blog in the past, that blog must have been the most wondrous of things to feast one’s peepers upon.

Or, it could have been shit and died through lack of interest.

Is that all you have in your arsenal KD? Been swimming fully bagged up, have you? Churlish. You and Sancho must be joined at the hip. Siamese twins are you both?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 7:51 pm

Titties galore ?
Missed that.
Were they Pam Anderson bazoonkas?

No bern. No, they most certainly were not.

Oh no no no. No.

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2022 7:52 pm

much better

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 7:54 pm

Been swimming fully bagged up, have you?

I don’t know what this means, so it can’t count as duelling.

Confirmed, though. HMJ’s blog was shit and died because it had a shit moderator.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 7:54 pm

It seems my mere presence is enough to upset you, GMH.
This is comforting to know.
I will be here for most of the evening.
Carry on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 7:55 pm

Any predictions GMH?
Dire predictions?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 7:57 pm

I predict HMJ’s blog was shit.

Oh wait.

Everything foretold has come to pass.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 7:58 pm

Yes, I know.

Duelling thread.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 8:01 pm

Duelling thread.

For the boobies ?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 12, 2022 8:01 pm

Test

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 8:02 pm

1250-ish comments here in short of two days.
Tell us, GMH.
How long did it take blogspot.GMH to rack up 1250 comments?
Feel free to count the ones moderated out.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 12, 2022 8:04 pm

Disappeared there for a while.
Bush.
I thought most aircraft insecticide was applied ULV.
It’s always worked well in the past.
Do you have grubs now?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 8:05 pm

Top search result for ‘swimming fully bagged up’:

What can’t be missed in a swimmer bag? – YouTube

I am suitably chastened.

calli
calli
October 12, 2022 8:06 pm

Travel day today.

Bons, in answer to your question, Greenwich has also changed. Last time we were here it was holidays, so students were conspicuous by their absence. But it goes deeper – the lovely old covered market is a dump. I recall banks of tables and chairs for the food vendors, and row upon row of quirky little craft stalls. Gone. The high street shops are all fast food, gone are the quality souvenir sellers. There was one gorgeous, well established shop that sold all things nautical. Gone along with many others.

It’s sad, but it’s regress. I’m off to the Observatory this morning to put in the hours before the airport transfer. Time to stretch my legs over two hemispheres again.

And that, in and of itself, epitomises the cultural slide. Time on this blue planet was once and is still measured from a point not 500metres from where I sit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 8:07 pm

Jeebers, calli, your travel blogs have taken a darker turn.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 8:13 pm

I think it might be the UK’s fault. Much of it has been on the slide for a while.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 8:13 pm

I’m off to the Observatory this morning to put in the hours before the airport transfer. Time to stretch my legs over two hemispheres again.

Isn’t that where they have the chronometers that Cook took to Australia?

calli
calli
October 12, 2022 8:15 pm

Perhaps. At the outset I was going to describe what I saw and experienced, particularly as it related to the “pandemic”, society and economics generally. If it has become a bit gloomy, that is the atmosphere here.

People are worried about being cold and unable to afford food. They are talking about it. The sunny weather is a false face to the underlying seriousness of what is to come. Unlike us, people here have no means of growing their own veggies should they choose to do so. If the power is rationed, how do they keep warm?

Time to come home.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 8:17 pm

HMJ’s a no show on the other thread. Oh well.

He’s the bloke who used to write daily Letters to the Editor, of which all would begin with:

‘When, oh when, oh when will -‘; or
‘Why, oh why, oh why do -‘; or
‘It never fails to -‘; or
‘Dear Sir: When are you going to -‘.

Children’s birthday bookings available.

bons
bons
October 12, 2022 8:18 pm

Did anyone watch Hilderbrand on Sky blaming everyone except Labor for the power crisis.
Always been a soft cock, but now he is dangerous.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 8:18 pm

Winter is coming.
And I think the Northern winter is going to shake a few things loose.
Gasp!
A prediction.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 12, 2022 8:20 pm

Is that all you have in your arsenal KD? Been swimming fully bagged up, have you? Churlish. You and Sancho must be joined at the hip. Siamese twins are you both?

“I’m sure that we can handle this situation maturely, just like the responsible adults that we are. Isn’t that right, Mr. Poopy Pants?”

cohenite
October 12, 2022 8:20 pm

FMD why do the Sky guys need to have a token leftie on. No matter who is on with them, Latham, our Pauline, if fucking reece or that fucktard hildebrand on I have to switch off.

Of course the whole context is that alarmism is real, man made global warming is happening. It fucking isn’t, Here’s a good article by Plimer saying things I’ve been saying for 15 years:

https://spectator.com.au/2022/10/my-cpac-turpitudes/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UNFI%20%2020221012%20%20SG&utm_content=UNFI%20%2020221012%20%20SG+CID_5eacab48e9c8ceeb250824f935714947&utm_source=CampaignMonitor_Australia&utm_term=Plimer%20continues%20to%20melt%20their%20fake%20news%20with%20facts

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2022 8:20 pm

Nukes before Christmas means food & energy prices won’t matter.

calli
calli
October 12, 2022 8:22 pm

That reminds me Zulu.

The Tate Modern Australia exhibition.

There is a repro of the painting of Cook planting the flag at Botany Bay – you know the one. On the opposite wall there is a piece mocking it, superimposing the indigenous flag over it.

It got my goat enough to say it out loud – what would have happened had it been the French or, God forbid, the Belgians? The French were caught shooting the indigenous for sport!

The British appear to hate themselves for being successful and merciful. We are going the same way.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 8:23 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 12, 2022 at 8:17 pm

HMJ’s a no show on the other thread. Oh well.

He’s talking to the manager.
Giving him a jolly good dressing down.

cohenite
October 12, 2022 8:24 pm

bonssays:
October 12, 2022 at 8:18 pm
Did anyone watch Hilderbrand on Sky blaming everyone except Labor for the power crisis.
Always been a soft cock, but now he is dangerous.

Hildebrand is an arsehole. He was in Alice Springs recently doing a segment on suffer the poor 3rd nations when he was literally attacked by some of the abo locals who objected to being filmed without being paid first. Could happen to a more deserving shit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 8:27 pm

Return trips often disappoint.

P
P
October 12, 2022 8:28 pm
Dot
Dot
October 12, 2022 8:30 pm

“I’m sure that we can handle this situation maturely, just like the responsible adults that we are. Isn’t that right, Mr. Poopy Pants?”

LOL

Solid gold.

calli
calli
October 12, 2022 8:30 pm

I was prepared for disappointment in some aspects. That’s a given. This goes deeper.

But holidays should be all about the bright lights and superficiality.

No point in trying to drill into the places we visit.

bons
bons
October 12, 2022 8:31 pm

Brilliant Calli,
It is impossible to be at Greenwich without feeling the extraordinary presence of breakthrough science. Greenwich is a thousand times more impactful than Apollo.
But you are right. It is now a crammed in afterthought – which is a crime.
Greenwich’s ghosts looking across the river at Tower Hamlets must be howling in despair.
Last time I took the Grandi there it was closed for filming a soapy.
I walked around the corner before expressing my gracious response to this …….

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2022 8:31 pm
132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2022 8:33 pm

Gez,
Apparently this is just the chemical plus a wetter/oil . No water.
I’ve seen ULV @10lt/ha but not 1.5

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 8:38 pm

Return trips often disappoint.

Sounds like a review of my 2nd trip to Hossegor. We did go to the Guggenheim at Bilbao though. Gives the Sydney Opera House a run for its money.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2022 8:40 pm

Sancho

The media interference is not dissimilar, but the conduct of the trials is very different.

Perhaps the ACT judge is keen to avoid having her adjudication criticised by the High Court?

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2022 8:42 pm

I was prepared for disappointment in some aspects. That’s a given. This goes deeper.

‘Change and decay in all around I see;
O Thou who changest not, abide with me.’

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 8:43 pm

Perhaps the ACT judge is keen to avoid having her adjudication criticised by the High Court?

I think that would be a safe assumption.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 8:44 pm

He was in Alice Springs recently doing a segment on suffer the poor 3rd nations when he was literally attacked by some of the abo locals who objected to being filmed without being paid first.

IIRC, that was quite a few years back. Some bullshit about “Are Australians Racist”. He was hosting some Indians to Australia and I thought that was in Bourke or Brewarrina.

I haven’t watched TV for years, but I’m pretty sure he did that yonks ago.

I think it “rated” pretty well at the time. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s decided to have another go at it a decade later.

miltonf
miltonf
October 12, 2022 8:44 pm

The Ryan teal sounds like a bit of a psychopath. Jeez I wouldn’t want her to be my doctor.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2022 8:44 pm

Calli

Unlike us, people here have no means of growing their own veggies should they choose to do so.

That might be so in parts of London, but did you not mention earlier passing a well-maintained set of allotments? Up north somewhere?

miltonf
miltonf
October 12, 2022 8:45 pm

Hilderbrand is just another meja marxist.

miltonf
miltonf
October 12, 2022 8:45 pm

Hilderbrand is just another meja marxist.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 8:45 pm

Perhaps the ACT judge is keen to avoid having her adjudication criticised by the High Court?

Yes.
Judges hate that.
It seems to be running in a more orthodox manner than the Pell trial.
Apart from Britnah’s unscheduled RDOs, that is.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2022 8:46 pm

I’ve been thinking for a while now that the only way conservatives and others on the right will ever be able to change things politically and culturally is to begin at the bottom. We must focus locally and then, when we’ve become dominant in local government, we can broaden our focus. Conservatives need to become active in local councils, to wrest control from Greens and others on the left and then we can move to state parliament and federally. This is exactly the template which the Greens used. Say what you like about the Greens, their model for political growth over the last thirty years has been pitch perfect. Most local councils are now dominated by Greens, that was how they got their foothold. We need to copy them.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 8:48 pm

Got chased into a hotel where they were staying I think.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2022 8:48 pm

“Hilderbrand is just another meja marxist.”

I think you’re giving him too much credit. He’s just a dolt.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 8:55 pm

That might be so in parts of London, but did you not mention earlier passing a well-maintained set of allotments? Up north somewhere?

By the side of the railway line, North of Whitby and through Newcastle on Tyne.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 8:57 pm

“Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave London. No, Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford.”

— Samuel Johnson (not Sun Tzu).

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 8:58 pm

I know a few people who have served on local councils. I’ll just stay here thanks.

rickw
rickw
October 12, 2022 8:59 pm

Jeebers, calli, your travel blogs have taken a darker turn.

Seems to be less COVID business destruction in Athens than in Melbourne.

Everyone seems pretty upbeat despite the masking, but making preparations for winter fuel costs.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 12, 2022 9:00 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
October 12, 2022 at 8:13 pm

Isn’t that where they have the chronometers that Cook took to Australia?

I don’t know if that’s where they keep Cook’s Rolex, but they do have have Watkin Tench’s thermometers there. There was some dispute in the not too far distant part about the temperature readings Tench took while in Sydney, he arrived with the First Fleet. He recorded some very hot temperatures which some people queried as those records predate the industrial age, hence temperatures should have been mush lower.

They traced Tench’s thermometers to Greenwich Observatory, that institution loaned a pair of thermometers to Tench for the purpose of recording the temperature in this new colony of New South Wales. A search at Greenwich found the returned thermometers and they were then tested using today’s best technology, and were found to be 100% accurate even today.

The climate doomsday cultists were hoping to find that Tench’s recordings were wrong due to faulty instruments, sadly the were disappointed to find no such fault.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 12, 2022 9:02 pm

Hildebrand is one of those journalists who want to be liked. That everybody says: “What a good bloke”.

FitzSimons started out like that. It hasn’t progressed very well.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 12, 2022 9:08 pm

Cassie
I’ve been thinking for a while now that the only way conservatives and others on the right will ever be able to change things politically and culturally is to begin at the bottom

Deep in a meditative state recently, and I came to the opposite conclusion.
We don’t have 30 years or more to march through the institutions. Marxist evil is about to turn the society we appreciate upside down very soon and to avoid that we need immediate action to expunge the leftist decision makers from their positions of power.
Starting at the lower levels of power (local councils) is a pathway for sure, and unfortunately I don’t know how to be revolutionary and overturn the top dogs.
Perhaps after my next meditation the way forward will be clearer.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 12, 2022 9:09 pm

Britnah’s RDO
R-oses
D-runk
O-ut to it.

cohenite
October 12, 2022 9:10 pm

Turtle blaming putie for the energy crunch in Australia. Also lack of instalment of ruinables by the lnp and Australia generally. In fact per capita Australia has installed more ruinables than any other stupid nation:

https://twitter.com/mattjcan/status/1579956065252569088

So, in fact the extent of ruinable installation in Australia is the reason why we are running short of power and why it is so expensive. It is also a lie that ruinables are cheaper. How can they be cheaper when they need so much back-up and new infrastructure. The reason why companies invest in ruinables and close coal is because of subsidies which are running at $13 billion PA:

https://www.malcolmrobertsqld.com.au/dr-alan-moran-report/

rickw
rickw
October 12, 2022 9:14 pm

Turtle blaming putie for the energy crunch in Australia.

A fucking imbecile, he doesn’t even need to open his mouth and you can reach that conclusion.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 12, 2022 9:14 pm

Last week, a wild situation took place during Monday night’s NFL game between the Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco 49ers when a spectator ran onto the field with pink flares in a form of protest. When security was unable to apprehend the protester quickly, Rams players Takkarist McKinley and Bobby Wagner took matters into their own hands by tackling the protester, and it looks like they might have caused a serious injury.
The police report reveals that Taylor suffered some serious injuries as a result of the incident, including a burn on his arm and a concussion.

In two words – GOOD.

Leon L.
Leon L.
October 12, 2022 9:14 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
October 12, 2022 at 8:13 pm

Isn’t that where they have the chronometers that Cook took to Australia?

Harrison’s frictionless chronometers are exhibited at the Greenwich observatory.
They still run and are magnificent.
The chronometers similar to those Cook used on his voyage are also displayed, but as they are not frictionless and hence wear out with repeated use, are just on static display.
The story of Harrison’s clocks is here:

Enjoy Calli. They were superb in 2017.

cohenite
October 12, 2022 9:17 pm

Trump/Tulsi 24!

rickw
rickw
October 12, 2022 9:17 pm

Loving Athens, nice weather and a bevy of old work colleges to catch up with. Food and wine has been excellent.

Particularly after having spent the last 2 months surviving on chicken. You can buy beef in the Maldives, very expensive, comes from Zambia, whilst I’m no expert, it’s looks exactly what I think Zebra meat should look like.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2022 9:22 pm

Teal MP says $140,000 a year is ‘not rich’

Sadly, she’s right.

Australian pay an obscene amount of taxation.

Add up all of the direct and indirect taxation you pay plus (maybe) your employer or business pays and be prepared to shit your pants from shock.

$140k p.a. – if you stretch yourself you can buy a 2 bedroom unit (1.5 mn +) in Surry Hills if you go through a non bank lender.

A bank won’t likely lend you more than $820k.

Which means a 1970s brick veneer in Penrith.

It is not as though “the rich” have taken everything.

We have voted for free stuff, and ourselves back into poverty.

rickw
rickw
October 12, 2022 9:22 pm

Harrison’s frictionless chronometers are exhibited at the Greenwich observatory.
They still run and are magnificent.

Isn’t the big thing with these arranging the brass and iron framework so that there is minimal dimensional changes due to thermal expansion? Brass having about twice the coefficient of expansion as iron.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 12, 2022 9:23 pm

Did anyone watch Hilderbrand on Sky blaming everyone except Labor for the power crisis.

Ridiculous, huh.

The only reason the Libs went for the Ruinables scam was because Labor was for it.

That is no virtue on the Liberals part. They are just that spineless and stupid. If Labour had a policy of assassinating Liberal members then the Liberals would have copied it – all those liberal pollies voting to support the policy and then being photographed in their final moments supremely astonished just before the bullets entered their brains.

No, it is and was a Labor policy in its origin and essence. The Libs just a photocopy. Labor finds itself now in exactly the same position as if they had been in government for a decade.

And Hildebrand is a joke. I remember how hard Blair had to work to stoke some enthusiasm for him, but you can only do so much with a soggy old newspaper like him. Not witty. Not insightful. Even his beard is straggly and toilet-brush like. He must be utterly chinless for it to be preferable to clean shaven.

Just an embarrassing eunuch used as a token male on a pointless morning show for budding cat-ladies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 9:25 pm

… whilst I’m no expert, it’s looks exactly what I think Zebra meat should look like.

The stripes huh?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 9:28 pm

Just an embarrassing eunuch used as a token male on a pointless morning show for budding cat-ladies.

Ouch. Remind me not to ask for a reference. Yep, a poor man’s Tim Blair.

Razey
Razey
October 12, 2022 9:31 pm

Old School Conservativesays:
October 12, 2022 at 9:08 pm
Cassie
I’ve been thinking for a while now that the only way conservatives and others on the right will ever be able to change things politically and culturally is to begin at the bottom

Deep in a meditative state recently, and I came to the opposite conclusion.
We don’t have 30 years or more to march through the institutions. Marxist evil is about to turn the society we appreciate upside down very soon and to avoid that we need immediate action to expunge the leftist decision makers from their positions of power.
Starting at the lower levels of power (local councils) is a pathway for sure, and unfortunately I don’t know how to be revolutionary and overturn the top dogs.
Perhaps after my next meditation the way forward will be clearer.

It’s far too late for a march through the institutions. The Woke lunatics will destroy the country in the next few years.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2022 9:31 pm

“Old School Conservativesays:
October 12, 2022 at 9:08 pm”

I understand your sentiment and I feel the same. However, given the current quagmire that we conservatives find ourselves in, I’m trying to find solutions and offer some hope and I do think that starting small and local is the way forward. Local council governance can be very impactful. People living in the suburbs crave decent local governance, governance that focuses on roads, rubbish and rates and eschews maligning Australia and Australia Day, eschews BDS boycotts, eschews green virtue signalling and eschews all the other crap so many councils now involve themselves in. This is our way forward. Also, we on the right tend to get dispirited and give up. This is a big mistake, we must stiffen our spine and enter the ring with boxing gloves on. The left never give up, and we need to adopt some of their resolve.

Having said that, I feel some hope for the future and that hope doesn’t come from people who live around me in an electorate like Wentworth. No, my hope lies in the new immigrants of this country. A few weeks ago I had a conversation with may nail artist, a young woman from North Vietnam. Listening to her talk about communism and the indoctrination she received at school in Vietnam was enlightening, she loathes communism and socialism.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 9:34 pm

Isn’t the big thing with these arranging the brass and iron framework so that there is minimal dimensional changes due to thermal expansion? Brass having about twice the coefficient of expansion as iron.

I read a book about Harrison’s naval clocks once.
Incredibly complex and intricate.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 12, 2022 9:34 pm

Can we get Les Bleus to do a number on Hildebrande the same as bandana man.

cohenite
October 12, 2022 9:35 pm

You can buy beef in the Maldives,

I had some good steaks when I was there in ’98. About this time of the year when the surf was just tapering off and was just about perfect. The steaks seemed ok but there were rumours of cannibalism in the outer islands.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 9:35 pm

a poor man’s Tim Blair

An advanced leprosy-stricken parasite infested 95 year old penniless gambling addict starving to death in a ditch’s Tim Blair.

Some of his written earlier stuff used to feature an imaginary mate of his called Darren or something. Darren was evidently introduced to add some form of lightheartedness. He’d refer to things like ‘as ugly as Darren’, ‘worse dress sense than Darren at the pub’ and so on.

Truly Year 7 stuff.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2022 9:35 pm

The book was “Longitude”.

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2022 9:38 pm

The only reason the Libs went for the Ruinables scam was because Labor was for it.

yep we are living in a world-wide Asch Conformity Experiment

not an original thought in their heads

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 9:38 pm

I’ve been thinking for a while now that the only way conservatives and others on the right will ever be able to change things politically and culturally is to begin at the bottom.

Cassie, the actual problem is that the Progressive side of politics been incredibly successful in infiltrating conservative leaning parties right across the world.

Look at all the RINO’s in America. Don’t start me on the Liberals in Australia (especially NSW). Totally infiltrated.

Even the rural Nationals were infiltrated. Think Tony Windsor and Rob Oakshott. FFS, Eddie OBied was running the show.

Yes, starting at the local councils is a good idea. But you really have to kick the bastards at the top out first to achieve that.

I’d suggest the reason there is no credible opposition in VIC is that they have been corrupted. Ditto QLD.

The easiest way to win an election is to ensure that your opposition party has a crap candidate. Preferably one that you are bankrolling.

Look to the US for what’s “happening”. It’s not by accident that “Kevin 07” occurred. That’s the might of American fundraising and American political nous.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 9:42 pm

Look to see many more “Green/Teal Candidates” in a location near you.

Well funded ones.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 12, 2022 9:45 pm

Isn’t the big thing with these arranging the brass and iron framework so that there is minimal dimensional changes due to thermal expansion?

Hence the assumed science behind “Freeze the balls off a brass monkey”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 9:47 pm

Blair’s blog and Alene Composta may come to be seen as the golden age of the Internet. And Professor Bunyip.

Razey
Razey
October 12, 2022 9:47 pm

Honestly, we are talking about a populous of which 95% did not push back against disgusting mandated experimental medical procedures. Does anyone really think this country can be saved? Or more to the point, -want- to be saved?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2022 9:50 pm

rosiesays:
October 12, 2022 at 8:31 pm
Fin Review paywalled

Teal MP says $140,000 a year is ‘not rich’

Three independent federal MPs who represent some of the wealthiest electorates have split over tax relief for high-income earners.

North Sydney MP Kylea Tink said she was in favour of the stage three tax cuts, which will abolish the 37 per cent tax bracket, tax $45,001 to $200,000 incomes at 30 per cent and introduce the 45 per cent rate at $200,001 instead of $180,001.

Warringah MP Zali Steggall expressed concerns about the costs of the cuts to the federal budget, while Wentworth MP Allegra Spender argued for overall tax reform, including a possible increase in the goods and services tax, without stating a position on income taxes.

All three, known as “teals”, appeared on a political panel at a markets conference held in Sydney by the Citi investment bank.

“Right here, right now, it is unfair to put people in that income bracket of around that $120,000 to $140,000 mark as rich,” Ms Tink said. “They are not rich. There’s been significant creep through our taxation levels and we need to be aware of that.”

Their three electorates are among the four wealthiest in Australia, according to calculations published last year by Roy Morgan Research.

Ms Spender, whose electorate includes Vaucluse and Bellevue Hill, said the debate over the income tax cuts had distracted people from other options, including changes to the GST, and a possible carbon tax and expanded resource rent tax.

“That is exactly the conversation we shouldn’t be having: ‘yes stage three, no stage three’,” she said.

Wentworth, which Ms Spender won from the Liberal Party this year, is the only electorate with an average wealth above $1 million, according to Roy Morgan.

Despite stoking public debate about the need to make savings the Albanese government looks unlikely to cancel or limit the tax cuts in the federal budget next week.

“Our position hasn’t changed,” Mr Albanese said this week. “So, it’s very clear. These are due to come in 2024. We’re producing a budget in October 2022.”

Ms Steggall didn’t express opposition to the tax cuts, but said they might be implemented at a cost in government spending, including on infrastructure.

“What people do need to understand is the benefits that will come from stage three will come at the cost of other sectors,” she said.

Afterwards, the three MPs briefly chatted with former prime minister Julia Gillard, who was also a speaker at the conference. Ms Gillard’s speech was closed to the media.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2022 9:52 pm

Ukraine ‘angered’ US with Moscow car bombing – Politico

Washington reportedly admonished Kiev over the killing of a Russian philosopher’s daughter and released information on the plot

The US government had misgivings about Kiev’s tactics following the car bombing that killed journalist Darya Dugina in Moscow Region, Politico news website has claimed. The assassination of controversial Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin’s daughter on August 22, left American officials “angered,” the article published on Tuesday said.

To deter Kiev from making similar “provocative” moves down the road, Washington intentionally allowed details of the plot to be made public in recent days, Politico reported, citing an unnamed official. Last week the New York Times reported that the US intelligence officials believe Dugina’s assassination was authorized by “parts” of the Ukrainian government.

The NYT article, citing anonymous US officials, claimed Washington was not involved in the hit in any way, and would have opposed the operation had it known about it in advance.

In a “closely held assessment of Ukrainian complicity” shared with the US government, intelligence officials voiced their concern that such a “covert campaign” could “widen the conflict,” and also expressed frustration over “Ukraine’s lack of transparency about its military and covert plans, especially on Russian soil,” the NYT reported.

Commenting on the article, Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov said it might indicate a positive development. The Russian official also noted that Moscow “really want[s] to hope that this is not some attempt by the American colleagues, who may possess certain information, to distance themselves from responsibility for future terrorist acts that the Ukrainian state may be preparing.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 10:00 pm

Teal MP says $140,000 a year is ‘not rich’

You certainly couldn’t run an out of warranty Range Rover that’s for sure. So she’s probably right.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 10:06 pm

The book was “Longitude”.

Been several years since I read that – I’m putting it on my “To read” pile.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2022 10:06 pm

cohenite.

The third ‘cute owl’ down is a ladyboy.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 10:07 pm

Throwing dollars into local campaigns doesn’t worry these people.

It’s all about money and influence. Strangely enough, I think the answer lies in equality. Everyone deserves a “fair go”. Or at least they used to.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2022 10:07 pm

Running an Islamic republic is a balancing act between killing enough of them to maintain order and having to flee into exile.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 10:10 pm

Daily Mail.

Terrifying moment a vicious brawl erupts 24 minutes into a Jetstar flight before the plane suddenly started to lose elevation – as frightened mum on board says ‘I thought we were going to die’

The brawl took place just 24 minutes into the flight from Melbourne to Brisbane
Footage showed the moment that punches were thrown between the two men
One Jetstar passenger revealed how she thought ‘we were going to die’

All right, which one of you horrible lot was it?

JC
JC
October 12, 2022 10:12 pm

MatrixTransform says:
October 12, 2022 at 9:38 pm

The only reason the Libs went for the Ruinables scam was because Labor was for it.

yep we are living in a world-wide Asch Conformity Experiment

not an original thought in their heads

They lost 10 seats to the TEALS who ran solely on the policy of climate change. Stick to the soldering iron, you wast of pixels.

10 seats!

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2022 10:16 pm

you wast of pixels

tell us all the battery story again JC

we’ll all be spell-bound for sure

Leon L
Leon L
October 12, 2022 10:20 pm

rickw says:
October 12, 2022 at 9:22 pm
Harrison’s frictionless chronometers are exhibited at the Greenwich observatory.
They still run and are magnificent.

Isn’t the big thing with these arranging the brass and iron framework so that there is minimal dimensional changes due to thermal expansion? Brass having about twice the coefficient of expansion as iron.

Excuse my block quote fail earlier.
Longitude is the book and details Harrison’s life work to claim the Royal Society prize for solving the longitude problem. An accurate sea clock.
Lots of skullduggery. Not much has changed in 300 years.

Rickw – the chronometers are over 1m cubed in size.
They are ornate amazing pieces of machinery.
They wind each clock daily.
There are three running chronometers.

Brass with ornate gilding on the front face as these were for the king.
Truly amazing to see.
Had to deal with rolling decks on boats at sea.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 10:20 pm

Running an Islamic republic is a balancing act between killing enough of them to maintain order and having to flee into exile.

That’s pretty accurate. But you have to remember that “The Revolution” actually started in Academia.

Razey
Razey
October 12, 2022 10:23 pm
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 12, 2022 10:24 pm

It has been 32 hours since we found ourselves on the same side of a political issue as the Greens.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/indigenous-leader-nyunggai-warren-mundine-and-greens-come-together-to-oppose-the-voice-to-parliament/news-story/a93e9ceee1665b707fd3f1ffa6e9eda7

Indigenous leader Nyunggai Warren Mundine and Greens come together to oppose the Voice to Parliament
A former Liberal candidate and Greens Senator have put aside their differences to discuss a “no” campaign in anticipation of the Albanese Government’s Voice to Parliament referendum.

Just wondering how everyone is coping.
On a related note, what is the best way to clean pig poop out of the roof gutters?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 10:24 pm

Memorial wrong for ‘frontier wars’: RSL

Jess Malcolm
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An hour ago October 12, 2022
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The Returned and Services League of Australia is urging the Australian War Memorial not to display frontier war artefacts to preserve the site’s exclusive focus on honouring the sacrifice of those who have served in defence of the nation.

RSL Australia president Greg Melick said the AWM was created to honour the sacrifice of Australian servicemen and women who had fought for their country or joined peacekeeping operations, arguing that the story of the frontier wars would be more appropriately told through a separate monument.

The concern comes after AWM chair Brendan Nelson said the memorial would expand its recognition of the frontier wars – fought between Aboriginal people and British colonists – as part of a wider development project.

The Coalition on Wednesday also warned the display of frontier war artefacts could entangle the AWM in a “partisan” debate and the memorial should be reserved for conflicts fought overseas.

Mr Melick said small artefacts displayed in memorials around the country were to provide context to Indigenous personnel who served in the armed forces.

However, Mr Melick argued there must be an entirely separate memorial, such as the Ngurra ­facility, to appropriately commemorate the frontier wars.

The new Ngurra facility is to be built in the Parliamentary Triangle between Old Parliament House and the War Memorial and will form a new cultural precinct to commemorate the diversity of Indigenous Australians.

The project, supported by Labor, was committed to by the former Coalition government in January at a cost of $320m.

“Conflicts are an entirely different matter and are a significant part of our history that would be more appropriately told in the National Museum or a national memorial,” Mr Melick said.

“While some frontier conflicts have been featured in Australian War Memorial galleries and touring exhibitions, these have been mounted to provide some context to the subsequent service of First Nations personnel in the ADF.

“The Australian War Memorial honours the sacrifice of those who have served our nation in armed conflicts and peacekeeping operations, and it is right and appropriate that this is exclusively maintained.”

Opposition defence spokesman Barnaby Joyce said the AWM was built in sacred recognition of conflicts fought overseas when the nation was unified against opposing forces, and should not be used as a memorial for onshore conflict.

“The fundamental element is that the War Memorial was built in sacred recognition of wars that Australians fought as a nation, unified against an external foe. It is not to be a memorial for conflicts within Australia,” he said. “The truth of both is absolute but the fundamental element is different. There are many memorials in Australia and in Canberra that represent the ultimate sacrifice of the person who lays down their life for others in a noble cause, but they are not all in the Australian War Memorial. This does not judge the value of those lives as different.”

Sorry, doesn’t any memorial to any “Frontier Wars” raise the issue that the Indigenous lost?

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 10:25 pm

We are now all “paying the price” for this. 911 started in 1979.

Razey
Razey
October 12, 2022 10:26 pm

Markets brace for MORE turmoil after Bank Of England boss sent pound plunging by telling pension funds they have until Friday to balance their books and warned the current bailout will NOT continue past then

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11304709/Pound-plunges-Bank-England-boss-says-pension-funds-Friday-balance-books.html

louis
louis
October 12, 2022 10:26 pm

Most of what we are seeing around the world at the moment is a bunch of elite baby boomers blowing the whole place up because ‘f*** it’ they are on the way out anyway. What amazes me is how many of them are desperate to greatly increase their wealth despite already having more than they can possibly spend in their remaining years of life. How many more houses do you need if you have less than tens years left to live and are elderly and frail?

JC
JC
October 12, 2022 10:27 pm

Magic Marvin

Explain the to readership how the libs followed Liar’s Party climate policy and they lost 10 seats to the TEALs. Some seats have never been anything other than conservative.

Go!

JC
JC
October 12, 2022 10:32 pm

Read this Dover. It may be better than relying on a tweet.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2021/03/04/vaccine-transmission

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2022 10:35 pm
JC
JC
October 12, 2022 10:37 pm

Poor ol’marv. Needs to get back to the therapy thread.

bons
bons
October 12, 2022 10:37 pm

280 mm from Sept to Nov!
How did you harvest.
Did you have a month of heat and wind?
Are you sure that you weren’t in QLD?
You southerners confuse me.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
October 12, 2022 10:41 pm

Re Hildebrand,
Following the death of Kitchings Joe outed himself as a Labor man thru and thru, “I love the Labor Party” on 2 Gb radio.
He said that he was angling for Labor Party pre-selection in conversations with Kitchings.
Rudd like levels of insanity.

JC
JC
October 12, 2022 10:43 pm

It maybe self-serving but I agree with Rasputin.

Vladimir Putin has called an oil price cap discussed by European leaders “a threat to the well-being of billions of people”, after saying Russia will not sell to countries implementing it.

“With their cavalier decisions, some Western politicians are destroying the global market economy and are in fact posing a threat to the well-being of billions of people,” the Russian President told an energy forum in Moscow on Wednesday.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 10:44 pm

Pythagorus
1 hour ago
A matter of time until the AWM is closed and gifted to the tent embassy.

Comment from the Oz.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 10:45 pm

Longitude is the book and details Harrison’s life work to claim the Royal Society prize for solving the longitude problem. An accurate sea clock.
Lots of skullduggery. Not much has changed in 300 years.

Astrolabe was invented way before that. Persian.

Got one here. Probably not that good for navigating oceans. “Click clock, the Captains clock”.

Razey
Razey
October 12, 2022 10:47 pm

The drum beat quickens.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 10:50 pm

Opps. I meant to add “Is probably more suitable for an ocean going journey”.

Overland, take an Astrolabe.

cohenite
October 12, 2022 10:58 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
October 12, 2022 at 10:06 pm
cohenite.

The third ‘cute owl’ down is a ladyboy.

This one?

Can’t see a dick; are you sure.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 11:00 pm

some Western politicians are destroying the global market economy and are in fact posing a threat to the well-being of billions of people,

I don’t think he needs to “name names”.

I wonder when the Europeans are going to figure out that Joe has screwed them over for the American elites financial interests in Ukraine?

It can’t be too far away.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Today is the anniversary of the day I took delivery of the pub. I’ll knock off early & have two single malts.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 11:13 pm

I’ll knock off early & have two single malts.

Sliante!

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 11:17 pm

Every Democrat politician in America is “pro Ukraine”. As far as the Southern Border of their own country goes. Meh.

The Europeans need to be shit scared at the moment. These are the poor bastards who are going to be freezing their arses off over winter.

I’ll speculate. There is no “nuclear threat” from Russia. It’s made up bullshit from the compliant MSM.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 12, 2022 11:17 pm

Captain Cook sailed on his first voyage in the Endeavour without a chronometer, yet still managed some amazingly accurate mapping. Accurately finding longitude was still in its infancy, and one of Cook’s missions was to observe the transit of Venus as a method of calculating longitude.

On his second voyage he had Harrison’s Number 4 chronometer on board. That chronometer is credited with being the invention that ensured Brittania ruled the seas for generations.

The Harrison #4 chronometer is on display in the Royal Observatory at Greenwich. It is magnificent work of art as well as an incredible invention.

I now return you to your regular channel.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Thank you Pedro.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 11:28 pm

I now return you to your regular channel.

I don’t have a reference, but one biographer of Cook mounts the case that he was a sick man, who should never have been sent on his third voyage, and that the Lords of the Admiralty had a lot to answer for for sending him on that fatal voyage,

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 12, 2022 11:31 pm

BTW, the astrolabe is a very primitive instrument invented thousands of years ago. The sextant is a much updated and improved version of the ancient astrolabe.

Its purpose is to measure angles and was used by early navigators to find their latitude. Longitude was a mix of dead reckoning and guesswork until Harrison perfected the chronometer.

GPS has made all these old navigational instruments obsolete, but sextants and chronometers are still carried aboard modern vessels in case the satellites go bung or the batteries go flat.

louis
louis
October 12, 2022 11:37 pm

All that Russian, Saudi and Chinese money fleeing UK is going to go somewhere. Why not into a country where the government of all parties is hell bent on continuing the country’s housing bubble.

@Razy What is now driving me crazy is the number of people in my workplace who were part of that 95% who are now revisioning their beliefs of the last 2 years. Pro-vaxers who are not like ‘Oh I never thought it was about stopping transmission. Always thought it was about reducing deaths and saving hospitals’. Oh really. They why the hell were you all for vax passports and firing the unvaxed. I can see how apparently there was ne’r a former nazi to be found in 1946 Germany.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 11:38 pm

but sextants and chronometers are still carried aboard modern vessels in case the satellites go bung or the batteries go flat.

So, there’s a group of the younger generation, learning the use of the sextant, if the satellites go bung….

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 12, 2022 11:39 pm

Today is the anniversary of the day I took delivery of the pub. I’ll knock off early & have two single malts.

Terrible choice for an occupation. The “grass is always greener” on the other side of the bar. You need to put in a “front man”. Work occasionally, but keep an “eye on the place”. See what’s happening.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 12, 2022 11:41 pm

Pictured is an accurate and detailed reproduction of Harrisons #4 chronometer.

There is no way in the world the Royal Observatory would allow anyone to disassemble the original.

Harrison #4 Chronometer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2022 11:45 pm

Pictured is an accurate and detailed reproduction of Harrisons #4 chronometer.

My compliments, and thank you for a most interesting post, Pedro.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 12, 2022 11:47 pm

Zulu, I believe all RAN Officer cadets are required to be able to obtain a “fix” at sea using the sextant. I assume merchant marine officers would be similarly trained.

Old info, but maybe Top Ender can verify.

I learned how to use a sextant when I were but a callow yoof working as a surveyor’s chairman, long before GPS was a thing for civilian use.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 12, 2022 11:54 pm

Dammit. “chainman” .

Winston Smith
October 12, 2022 11:57 pm

132and Bush:

What worries me, rosie, is what has happened to our society and what precedent has been set for the future.

In the final analysis, the one thing we can determine is the citizens of Australia have no say in the direction our society is evolving.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 13, 2022 12:05 am

BTW, the astrolabe is a very primitive instrument invented thousands of years ago.

I’m calling “bullshit”. Mainly because of the word “primitive” and “instrument invented thousands of years ago”.

Wikipedia doesn’t do it justice. Not even close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

calli
calli
October 13, 2022 12:14 am

Waiting in the lobby for the airport transfer…just back from the Observatory.

I have seen all four of Harrison’s chronometers. No 1 was the size of a milk crate, 2 and 3 slightly more compact with the reciprocating pendulums within the framework. Then came the quantum leap – No 4 is the size of an enormous fob watch, around 150mm diameter.

Cook used the astronomical method.

The octagonal room is as perfect as ever. The chestnuts in the park are turning and the nuts are falling to the ground. It’s a beautiful time of year.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 13, 2022 12:16 am

JCsays:
October 12, 2022 at 10:32 pm
Read this Dover. It may be better than relying on a tweet.

Are you going to give us a lecture on climate change next? You are useless.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 13, 2022 12:18 am

I’d still buy JC a meal and a beer. Legit.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Thanks Armadillo

Terrible choice for an occupation.

Amen to that.

The “grass is always greener” on the other side of the bar.

The reality of the …profession… is always one helluva shock to new entrants, especially those with a middle class background. Oh Come On touched on this a week or so back, & put it very well.

You need to put in a “front man”.

That’s the only way it can work, I’ve always used “front” men, or women. I’m a spreadsheet jockey who rarely gets out of the office.

Work occasionally

“Occassionally”, hahaha. hahaha. hahaha.,

but keep an “eye on the place”. See what’s happening.

Ahhh.. . you’ve identified the eternal challenge.

calli
calli
October 13, 2022 12:21 am

I see Pedro got there first.

We stand on the shoulders of giants when it comes to these instruments.

And as for the BOM pooh pooing readings taken by the Victorians…my g g grandfather was the post master at Pambula and these guys were tasked with recording rainfall and temperatures. I can’t imagine a more meticulous, responsible person to do the work and the rest would have been just like him. No slap-dashery in people who took their work seriously.

It says a lot about the BOM though.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 13, 2022 12:24 am

Jor-El & Lois Lane | Man of Steel:

calli
calli
October 13, 2022 12:24 am

Speaking of bars, we called in for a pint and some lunch at the Rose and Crown. The Beloved, blind to such things, did not notice the…ahem…flamboyant nature of our surroundings.

Until the drag queen bingo night advertising started. 😀

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 13, 2022 12:25 am

“Sex Texts” probably now rule the world (rather than sextants).

Meanwhile, some dickhead in a University on mega bucks is trying to figure out how the pyramids were built. All on the taxpayers dime.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 13, 2022 12:26 am

The astrolabe was invented sometime around 200 BC, and the Greek astronomer Hipparchus is often credited with its invention. A number of Greek scholars wrote in-depth treatises and texts on the astrolabe. Eventually, the tool was introduced to scholars in the Islamic world. They soon started using the instrument, mainly for navigation, and wrote many texts on the instrument themselves. Texts were also written on the subject in India, showing the extent to which this tool was used around the world.

from Universe Today.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 13, 2022 12:27 am

Jor-El & Lois Lane | Man of Steel.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 13, 2022 12:29 am
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Calli, the dedication & perfectionism of those Postmaster/Weather recorders is sometimes not believed by those who do not possess the character traits required.

The Postmistress in my town made weather readings every 8 hours, 7 days each week, 52 weeks of the year, every year, year in year out, all of my life, until it was eventually automated.
I have no doubt that in all that time, not one reading was missed, or even done late.

“But nobody would get up every 8 hours every day of their life, it couldn’t happen” is the triumphant wail.
Some people do, and it did happen, in countless small towns across the nation.
“It was done alright” is always my response “but not by people like you”

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 13, 2022 12:38 am

One of the WW2 Special Forces units was the British Army’s No1 Demolition Squadron, aka “Popski’s Private Army” after its commander Vladimir “Popski” Peniakoff.
Similar role to the SAS and the Long Range Desert Group.

Their cap badge was an astrolabe.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 13, 2022 12:45 am

The Beloved, blind to such things, did not notice the…ahem…flamboyant nature of our surroundings.

He’s there for a beer, Calli. He’s focused on the bar, not the surroundings.

What beer can I get? How much will it cost? Will the Sheliah behind the bar notice if I’m looking at her bazookas? Important questions for a bloke.

No wonder the poor bastard didn’t notice the “flamboyant nature” of the joint.

It probably wasn’t that high on his list of priorities.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 13, 2022 12:47 am

This is a top of the line modern sextant. There is another version that uses a digital camera image instead of mirrors. A very long way from the early astrolabes or quadrants.

Retails for about $1800.
Astra Lib Sextant.

Winston Smith
October 13, 2022 12:51 am

Cohenite:

Trump/Tulsi 24!

No, no, NO!
It’s a trap!

rickw
rickw
October 13, 2022 1:00 am

With their cavalier decisions, some Western politicians are destroying the global market economy and are in fact posing a threat to the well-being of billions of people

Is there any aspect of this comment from Poot that’s inaccurate or wrong?

Gabor
Gabor
October 13, 2022 1:00 am

Winston Smith says:
October 13, 2022 at 12:51 am

Cohenite:

Trump/Tulsi 24!

No, no, NO!
It’s a trap!

It is too, one traitor as a VP for Trump should be enough.
Hell have his hand full as it is.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 13, 2022 1:31 am

The astrolabe was invented sometime around 200 BC, and the Greek astronomer Hipparchus is often credited with its invention. A number of Greek scholars wrote in-depth treatises and texts on the astrolabe. Eventually, the tool was introduced to scholars in the Islamic world.

I’m yet to see a single depiction of an Astrolabe in Greek art. However, you do see it in Persian Art. Islam is much later than Christianity. Basically a “knock off” of the religion. Much like the latter “Church of England”.

Then you have “Old Testament” people. They sort of “screwed up” a bit in abetting the Italians. They paid a heavy price for it.

As far as “Hipparchus” goes, he’s a fraud.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 1:37 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
October 12, 2022 at 11:11 pm
Today is the anniversary of the day I took delivery of the pub. I’ll knock off early & have two single malts.

lol.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 13, 2022 1:39 am

Is there any aspect of this comment from Poot that’s inaccurate or wrong?

No.

calli
calli
October 13, 2022 3:54 am

Tah dah! Finally…in the lounge with a nourishing G&T .

Thank goodness we did a transfer and not a cab. Roadworks with non-existent “workers” had the main road cut from three to two lanes. The tailback was the tenth circle of Hell. Until we reached Heathrow.

Security. Can someone please explain why this modest old Christian lady has to undress down to a T-shirt in front of the crowd while amply be-draped others can simply slide through? The Beloved asked. “It’s the Rules” was the reply. “Then they are unequally applied”, said he. “You have humiliated my wife.”

Put that in your pipe and smoke it virtue signalling bigots.

calli
calli
October 13, 2022 3:56 am

Sorry. That was three to one lane.

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