Open Thread – Weekend 29 Oct 2022


Still Life with Dahlias, Zinnias, Hollyhocks and Plums, Eugène Delacroix, 1835


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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 4:34 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 30, 2022 at 4:12 pm

5 litre V8.
Bah!

16 litre, 9 cylinder radial.
Take that!

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:35 pm

Farmer Gez says:
October 30, 2022 at 4:32 pm

You’re definitely closer to God on a bike.
I never felt I’d kill myself in a car but there’s been a few times on a bike.
Riding pillion is only for the very trusting or stupid.

I once saw a car vs bike accident and the biker ended up on the ground with one leg literally dangling above his head.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 4:35 pm

Top ‘o de page toppering!

Speedbox
October 30, 2022 4:37 pm

JC says:
October 30, 2022 at 4:03 pm

IMO, JC is correct. For the overwhelming number of people, range isn’t an issue and that is especially true in 2+ car families who live in the cities or major regional centres. Most EVs now have 550kms+ of range. Newer models are ~650km and 700km is increasingly common. The Tesla Model S Plaid has >800kms.

Yes, there are issues if you want to tow a caravan or a boat; charging time; battery replacement cost etc etc. We all know this.

But the fact remains that alternative powered vehicles are coming whether that be electric, hydrogen (don’t discount hydrogen powered in 10 years) or something else. But, it is impossible for the world to meet the CO2 reduction mandates with ICE cars on the road. Given that almost every nation has signed up to achieve those targets (on your behalf) and manufacturers are pouring hundreds of billions into re-tooling and production of EVs, do you honestly think this all going to go away?

I’m sorry, but the decisions have already been made and no, you weren’t invited to the discussion. ICE passenger vehicles have a very limited future and from about 2035, it will be near impossible to buy a new one.

m0nty
m0nty
October 30, 2022 4:37 pm

Good luck dodging death JC. I’d have my steak on you if I were betting with another Cat.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 4:37 pm

Yep. You don’t want to crash unless you’re on a decent track (not Wanneroo) in full leathers on someone else’s bike.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:38 pm

You have to be the first the topper, Sanchez. Seconds doesn’t count unless you’re attempting to top the topperer.

Like Driller topped up with a 20 cylinder. You could have topped the driller with say a 40 cylinder turbo.

bons
bons
October 30, 2022 4:38 pm

Universe grade lunatic Guy Martin has a great video of him racing an F1 car on his TT bike.
The bike easily cleaned up on the straights but lost overall because of the car’s vastly superior breaking into the corners.
My favourite quote about Martin came from a Manchester Uni engineering student girl who was helping him on one of his suicide projects: “I think he might be a bit of a nutter”. Yep, that would be him.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 4:38 pm

I didn’t know you could get a 16 litre, 9 cylinder radial into a golf cart.
You learn something new everyday.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 4:39 pm

JCsays:

October 30, 2022 at 4:26 pm

Most cars won’t touch a fast bike in a straight line.

Sure, but what’s your point? Most cars in Australia these days are SUVs.

The greatest frauds are the geriatric ‘bikers’ who ride around on those trike thinks.
Invariably my advice is “Give up and get a fucking car!”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 4:40 pm

EU regulations drive the automotive developments. EU5 killed off a lot of bikes.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 30, 2022 4:44 pm

Getting hammered at the Pelosi house is getting out of hand.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 4:44 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 30, 2022 at 4:38 pm

I didn’t know you could get a 16 litre, 9 cylinder radial into a golf cart.

Nup.
Mine was a three-wheeler.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 4:45 pm

Aero kills off racing. It is creeping into bikes now.

2dogs
October 30, 2022 4:46 pm

The Teals happened the same way Labor won gummint .. folk were fed-up with the non-event that was the LNP gummint and their pathetic non-handling of both their and the state abuses over BAT FLU & lockdowns .. nuttin’ to do with nuclear ……… FFS!

You’re kind of right in explaining why the Libs lost, but my comment was more directed to why it was the Teals in particular that came to replace so many Libs. If your reason was correct, there were many other parties those formerly Lib seats could have gone to.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 4:46 pm

I’m sorry, but the decisions have already been made and no, you weren’t invited to the discussion. ICE passenger vehicles have a very limited future and from about 2035, it will be near impossible to buy a new one.

Sad and probably true but then again, who knows what the world will be like in 2035.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 4:49 pm

I never felt I’d kill myself in a car but there’s been a few times on a bike.

agree- only once on the Hume H’way- never again. The wind and truck turbulence is really something.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Taking a tractor for a spin around a paddock is like taking Fran (tractor) Kelly out on a date.

Your lived experience of dating Fran Kelly may not be representative of farming.
No matter how enthusiastically you ploughed that field.
However, if you’re taking a tractor around a paddock, you’re doing it wrong, very wrong.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 30, 2022 4:50 pm

Been outback for 3 days, no mobile service.

A Liars stuff-up is as much a certainty as a Lieboral stuff-up.

Already in process, the ISIS brides is going down like a lead balloon outside the media/chattering class. I note Claire Martin being groomed for full responsibility for, could this be a trapdoor if this starts to become a liability for her? Other broken promises like lower power bills will bite.

I don’t expect a 1 term government especially from a far left party protected by the media but they may surprises us with their ineptness. Chalmers budget was the start, despite blaming Morrison the mess is his now and so far IMO he has shown little intention or ability to rectify.

Speedbox
October 30, 2022 4:50 pm

H B Bear says:
October 30, 2022 at 4:40 pm
EU regulations drive the automotive developments. EU5 killed off a lot of bikes.

And cars. EU6 was the dagger in the gut for many of the rest. EU7 will be the shot to the heart.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:52 pm

Sad and probably true but then again, who knows what the world will be like in 2035.

Just an opinion, but I reckon we’re three years max from watching the world turn over, flip side ways and down with the advent of AI. Once AI develops tentacles in three years time we won’t recognize the world beyond that. I’m only exaggerating a little. Heavy duty AI is 3 three years away tops.

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 4:54 pm

I think it was Pedro who recently hopped on a bike after a very long hiatus and only got to second before his courage fled far, far away.

I can relate to that. 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 4:55 pm

Speedboxsays:

October 30, 2022 at 4:37 pm

JC says:
October 30, 2022 at 4:03 pm

IMO, JC is correct. For the overwhelming number of people, range isn’t an issue and that is especially true in 2+ car families who live in the cities or major regional centres.

Exactly.
If you live in the city, you don’t give a rats about range. Even in the bush you don’t care if you have two cars and one is a local runabout.
Sure, long distance heavy trucking would be a problem, but intra-city deliveries and even short range inter-city transport (think Melbourne-Ballarat or Melbourne-Geelong) EVs could work.
I can envisage every Colesworth loading bay being equipped with charging points, so every truck which backs in has the option of hooking up.
Those guys are rarely in and out in less than 30-45 minutes, so wait time doesn’t bother them.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 4:55 pm

‘Snedden’s bad but Whitlam’s worse’ was what the girl I sat next to in Primary School said. Only the names have changed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 4:55 pm

Maybe you don’t consider Essential Media to be a serious pollster,
No.
but given their usual left wing bias
So, you admit they’re not credible.
… one could hardly call them a nuclear shill.
Huh?

Here’s the reality:
Every time the Liberal Party get kicked out in Canberra, The Australian starts running stories on gimmicks that the Liberals need to embrace if they’re ever going to have a chance in the future.
#1 Gimmick: Embrace Nuclear Power
#2 Gimmick: Crack down on I.R.
#3 Gimmick: We can’t afford Medicare any more.

This HorseShit first happened when Fraser got the arse in 1983.
The Liberals lost 4 Elections taking the HorseShit seriously until Howard ditched the lot and won a famous victory.
Conclusion:
Nuclear puffers are Labor Shills, else why don’t they browbeat Labor into adopting Nuclear Power?

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 4:57 pm

I pillioned for three years through city traffic. I found it exhilarating and fun.

But my Guardian Angel was very…very tired.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 4:57 pm

However, if you’re taking a tractor around a paddock, you’re doing it wrong, very wrong.

Of course. Taking it around Monza or Silverstone would be reaching ecstasy for a speed demon like you, chuffle head.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 30, 2022 5:00 pm

Sal you’ve ruined my day. I read your comment several times and each time the image of plowing Fran Kelly is too much. Library and Webly is the only way out.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 5:00 pm

Wow, I never knew this until I just read it in the OZ. Rebs is a muff diver?

A controversial Sydney Morning Herald gossip column that complained about actor Rebel Wilson’s failure to respond to queries about her same-sex relationship has been found to have “intruded” on her privacy, and lacked “sufficient public interest to justify such an intrusion”.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 30, 2022 5:03 pm

miltonfsays:
October 30, 2022 at 4:49 pm

LOL, riding bikes in high winds at high speeds is just as distressful. Have had my heart in my mouth in southern areas of Oz ahead when the NW winds bluster through. Had a similar experience Thursday in the ‘ville on a get around bike much smaller as a super cell was building. Remembered those experiences 🙂

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Rebs is a muff diver?
I think it might be a PR stunt.
The GF looks like a Lezzo, but Wilson doesn’t come across as the sort of girl who’d appreciate having a fist elbow deep up her arse.

Speedbox
October 30, 2022 5:07 pm

Outright speed in a straight line is a thrill but I always got the greatest rush being able to corner at speed. Dancing on the absolute threshold of traction and blasting out of the corner …..geez that was satisfying.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 5:07 pm

Indolent:

Facebook Fined $25M By Washington State For Violating Election Law

Once the money hungry governments realise there is a great big bucket of money to be plundered, they will be all over Facebook like flies on fresh shit.
Governments don’t see legal rights – they can cancel them whenever they want.
Facebook is now seen as a weak old horse.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 30, 2022 5:09 pm

Years ago mate had a Suzuki scrambler that wouldn’t start. I ended up pushing him. It caught, just as he wound it on. Instant wheel stand, 200m with his legs being dragged behind on the ground before he let go. Still makes me smile.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

GreyRanga says: October 30, 2022 at 5:00 pm
Sal you’ve ruined my day. I read your comment several times and each time the image of plowing Fran Kelly is too much. Library and Webly is the only way out.

’twasn’t I who raised that particular piece of recreation.
Someone else on the Cat would seem to be thinking of servicing that model of tractor with a full grease & oil change.
Each to their own. Hey, some blokes hanker for being chased around their home in their Y-fronts by a homeless man clad only in Y-fronts.

Some fellers float their boat in strange ways. The cat is a broad church, & so on.

Mater
October 30, 2022 5:17 pm

I’m reasonably impressed. They’re making okay progress.

JC,
Let me explain my reasoning a bit better.
Here are the two Tesla models we are comparing.

The original Roadster with the 393km range, and the Model S, which has the longest range of all Teslas, at around 640km.

Both are powered by the same technology, that is, the Tesla 18650. The only significant variation is the number that is packed into each car, and the efficiency improvements found throughout the rest of the vehicle (motors, weight, drivetrains, the way they are wired in, etc).

The battery technology is largely identical and, in and of itself, has not had a significant impact on the increase in range from the Roadster to the Model S.

So, it follows that up until now, range improvements are not reflective of improvements in battery technology. That’s more or less over the last decade.

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 5:17 pm

Somewhere in the photo box there’s one of the Beloved astride his motorbike*. T-shirt, rugby shorts and thongs. Flimsy looking helmet.

“Leathers” were for the rich and sensible.

* alternative spelling came up “moronbike”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 30, 2022 5:18 pm

Adds lesbians to the list of things Ed-Mong knows nothing about.

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2022 5:23 pm

H B Bearsays:
October 30, 2022 at 4:37 pm
Yep. You don’t want to crash unless you’re on a decent track (not Wanneroo) in full leathers on someone else’s bike.

A US surgeon told me that doctors call them donor cycles.
I rode fast bikes for 20 years. Still miss it.
My last bike had loud extractors and was kitted with high compression and polished head. If a car driver did something stupid that was a threat to me I sought revenge. I would pull up beside car, drop down to 2nd/3rd, and let it rip and laugh as they panicked, often veering strongly. Bastards deserved it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 5:24 pm

Hey, some blokes hanker for being chased around their home in their Y-fronts by a homeless man clad only in Y-fronts.
De Pape doesn’t look like a homeless gay hustler.

At the moment, I’m leaning toward the theory that Mr. Nancy and De Pape were getting their Ed Buck on with a 3rd party when things took a turn for the worse.
Pelosi rang the SF cops, who removed the stiff by Ambulance and made up the 9/11/Hammer story on the fly.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 5:25 pm

Mater

Here are the two Tesla models we are comparing.

Okay

The original Roadster with the 393km range, and the Model S, which has the longest range of all Teslas, at around 640km.

Okay

Both are powered by the same technology, that is, the Tesla 18650.

That presumably is the electric motor?

The only significant variation is the number that is packed into each car,

What does that mean

and the efficiency improvements found throughout the rest of the vehicle (motors, weight, drivetrains, the way they are wired in, etc).

Okay.

The battery technology is largely identical and, in and of itself, has not had a significant impact on the increase in range from the Roadster to the Model S.

Haven’t Tesla packed more energy intensity in their recent batteries? I thought they had.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 30, 2022 5:26 pm

I dunno about whether ‘leccie cars are going to take over.

The Chinese and the Indians don’t seem to be very interested.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 30, 2022 5:30 pm

I’ve been out most of the afternoon. Thanks for the detailed response Bruce of N.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 5:31 pm

“2dogssays:
October 30, 2022 at 4:46 pm”

Living in a Teal electorate as I do, most of the wealthy scum that I live amongst truly-ruly believe that renewables such as wind and solar will provide all the energy we need. They think renewables are simply marvellous. Now youda thinka that in Teal electorates such as mine (Wentworth) and others, such as North Sydney, Warringah, Kooyong and Goldstein, most people would be reasonably well educated but here’s the thing, being well educated doesn’t count for anything. Most people living in Wentworth have swallowed the climate con hook, line and sinker, you’ll find more common sense in an electorate like Lindsay, in Sydney’s west (an electorate the Liberals held and the Liberal member increased her margin in May). Now why are the Teal electorates so heavily invested in renewables, well it’s because of the dosh. Many here are making lots of dosh from renewables. It’s a gravy train of grift.

As an aside, tomorrow is Halloween. I don’t know when and why this country started celebrating Halloween, we didn’t grown up with it and I don’t like it, am I a killjoy?. Almost every house around me that had an Allegra Spender poster up prior to the May election now has massive Halloween decorations festooning the huge homes. They’ve spent quite a bit of dosh decorating the homes with weird and scary adornents. It’s bizzaro, particularly when all of these decorations are made from fossil fuels. I think tomorrow, when I’m accosted after work walking home (as I was a two years ago by some privileged Wentworth children), I’ll tell them that the decorations they’re wearing are made from evil fossil fuels and that they’re climate criminals.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 30, 2022 5:32 pm

OK, as someone who is regularly in parts of Oz that are beyond normal civilisation. I am genuine with these questions as I have just spent 3 days in an area of Northern Queensland that has no grid or even mobile service, gravel roads and everything is powered by diesel generators or internet by satellite.

What’s the alternative to diesel in these parts? Electrics aren’t cutting it up here, will not even with advances for generations IMO. Hydrogen I am also circumspect having to deal with a lot of logistics in my role, especially with Australia’s ridiculous over the top OH&S.

Are looking at a further depopulation of these areas (which would bring national security issues into play) to fulfil the move to “renewables?” Mining relies heavily on diesel, how they going to wean the industry off that or are we all headed for the scrapheap to be baristas while the third world gets our jobs?

Have no doubt as stated above it is in progress and we have no choice just wondering what’s the alternative as I don’t see any viable ones.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 5:35 pm

Even you?

Rolls-Royce debuted Spectre, “the marque’s first fully electric motor car,” at the Goodwood headquarters in England on Oct. 18, and will start delivering cars in the fourth quarter of next year. “I believe Spectre is the most perfect product that Rolls-Royce has ever produced,” said Torsten Müller -Ötvös, the company’s CEO, at the new model’s debut. “This is the start of a bold new chapter for our marque.”

The four-seat car is a big, slick and aerodynamic fastback that retains that very upright front chrome grille, albeit in wider form, and lit up with 22 LEDs. The Spirit of Ecstasy hood ornament is in place, but now she’s “aero tuned.” The roof treatment is reminiscent of the Bentley Continentals of the early 1950s, back in the day when Rolls and Bentley were one. But the fairly exclusive Rolls Phantom Coupé is a more recent reference. The new car sports big 23-inch wheels, and is 17.8 feet long and 6.8 feet wide.

The interior looks like a huge vomit, but I’m sure their Arab customers will love it.

Get a load of the side pic.

And range is?

Range is 260 miles, but Rolls did not disclose the size of the battery pack or details about the electric motors. The vehicle produces 577 horsepower and 664 pound-feet of torque, allowing a not-yet-final 4.4-second zero to 60 time “just like a Ghost, or maybe a little better,” Spahn says. Top speed is an electronically limited 155 miles per hour.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 5:36 pm

A US surgeon told me that doctors call them donor cycles.

I once heard an expression in California to describe the result of helmetless riders coming off at speed … “street pizza”.

Mater
October 30, 2022 5:39 pm

That presumably is the electric motor?

No, that’s the individual battery cell that is grouped together to make up the battery pack.

Haven’t Tesla packed more energy intensity in their recent batteries? I thought they had.

They have a new battery coming on line shortly (4680).
However (and this is the crux of our argument), the range increases that you have been observing over the last decade have been merely a result of packing more of the same cells into the various models, and improving efficiency in other areas and aspects of the vehicle.

We’ll see how the 4680 performs when it becomes commercial. There’s many a slip twixt cup and lip.

WolfmanOz
October 30, 2022 5:40 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
October 30, 2022 at 4:46 pm”

Living in a Teal electorate as I do, most of the wealthy scum that I live amongst truly-ruly believe that renewables such as wind and solar will provide all the energy we need. They think renewables are simply marvellous. Now youda thinka that in Teal electorates such as mine (Wentworth) and others, such as North Sydney, Warringah, Kooyong and Goldstein, most people would be reasonably well educated but here’s the thing, being well educated doesn’t count for anything. Most people living in Wentworth have swallowed the climate con hook, line and sinker, you’ll find more common sense in an electorate like Lindsay, in Sydney’s west (an electorate the Liberals held and the Liberal member increased her margin in May). Now why are the Teal electorates so heavily invested in renewables, well it’s because of the dosh. Many here are making lots of dosh from renewables. It’s a gravy train of grift.

Although I no longer care for him anymore, Andrew Bolt had the right idea (although it was never possible).

Those electorates that voted to get a Green (Teal) MP only get power generated by renewables. No wind or sun then no power. They’d quickly change their tune.

Delta A
Delta A
October 30, 2022 5:41 pm

Riding pillion is only for the very trusting or stupid.

I dumped Darling Daughter after hitting a rogue rock on my Yammy 250. Forty years later she still whinges about it.

132andBush
132andBush
October 30, 2022 5:47 pm

Sad and probably true but then again, who knows what the world will be like in 2035.

A shit show run by crony capitalists to an even greater extent than it is today.

Razey
Razey
October 30, 2022 5:49 pm

well educated

More like well indoctrinated.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 5:50 pm

A shit show run by crony capitalists to an even greater extent than it is today.

Twitter purchase by Musk could be huge for freedom and I’m more than 50% optimistic he’ll get it right. The Twitter purchase and the firing of the three top scumbags running the place is huge.
He did this as he literally walked in.

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 5:51 pm

being well educated doesn’t count for anything

No, an expensive, lengthy “edumacation” will never be enough.

If, in that process, the pupil is protected from life’s harsh realities, then it will be useless. If they are not taught to reason for themselves, to research, to question, then it will be useless. Only the stealthy, remorseless tread of reality will awaken them…too late.

On Hallowe’en – I’m of two minds. I confess to having a couple of packs of chocolates for any little ones who come calling. I don’t want to turn any miniature ghouls away. Sadly, our neighbourhood is getting older and the once kiddies are now teenagers – trysting in the little hut on the lake for smokes and a smooch. The Circle of Life. 😀

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 5:53 pm

Haven’t Tesla packed more energy intensity in their recent batteries? I thought they had.

ffs

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 30, 2022 5:54 pm

I rode a Yamaha Scorpio for a bit. I was past the age where I needed to show off, it was good solid bike for getting around.

My dad on one of our Sydney postings used to take us for bursts down the road in our residential street on a Yamaha 300 (Unsure on model), I loved it as a little boy. No helmet, and believe it or not in the 1980’s some of Sydney’s inner west the sides of the roads were gravel…

Gilas
Gilas
October 30, 2022 5:55 pm

Speaking of motorbikes..
I used to (cycle)bike-ride on the Old Pacific Hwy between Cowan and Mt.White, just north of the Hawkesbury.. plenty of 7+% gradients to keep the Carbs-dependent Watts bubbling along.

Also a popular route with the motorbikers, because of the ondulations and tight curves towards Calga.

Human-shaped chalk contours were a common sight near some of these curves.

No thanks!

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
October 30, 2022 5:55 pm

Regarding electric vehicles.

I’ll start taking them seriously when the government orders all police, ambulance, fire and military vehicles to be switched over to electric.

Until that happens, I will not believe for a moment that combustion cars are going anywhere.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 5:58 pm

As promised (the Hun):

A 20-year-old future Test star, taken under the wing of Usman Khawaja, has announced himself with a stunning Sheffield Shield century on debut for Victoria.

Prodigious talent Ashley Chandrasinghe showcased an almost lost skill amongst modern batsmen to knuckle down for 311 balls for his hundred against Tasmania in an innings that showcased his enormous potential as a future pillar of Australian batting.

Presented by coach Chris Rogers with Victoria’s 870th cap on Saturday in Hobart, Chandrasinghe conquered a raging green top against a top class Tasmanian seam attack to join West Australian Teague Wyllie as Australia’s next big thing.

He was born in Berwick, and didn’t come up through the poncy AGS system. And:

Like Khawaja, he’s developed unique ways of keeping a level head – he doesn’t always remove his helmet, as is customary when one reaches a hundred. “It started in Darwin actually, I was on 99 and started thinking about my celebration and how I was going to take the helmet off – I ended up getting out,”

“Now, if I feel like my mind’s starting to move away from the next ball and I’m letting in distractions, I won’t take the helmet off. A hundred’s not enough, so why celebrate it? If I feel like I’m in a good headspace, I’ll take it off”.

Are you listening to this Warner? No Toyota jumps, no screaming into stump mics. Raise your bat, acknowledge the applause and get on with it.

Look at your replacement, you scheming little self-important midget houso cheat. Look at him, and get out of his way.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 5:59 pm

Go with the building site gansta lingo, Magic Marv. You sound smarter that way.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 6:00 pm

NDIS is the biggest heist ever sprung on a citizenry

Yep. Thanks Teats, thanks Gillard, thanks Yabbott.

At this rate everyone in the country (and no doubt, many who aren’t) will be enjoying its boundless largesse within about five years.

Until they aren’t, which will be shortly afterwards …

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 6:01 pm

And even if battery powered cars/trucks/suvs were practical and convenient, the same cult is destroying the capacity to charge them. It’s a complete contradiction (maybe the non useful-idiots know this).

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:03 pm

Speedbox at 5:07 – corners on bikes are great at any speed. Hardly rode my bike coming back to Perth. After my stroke, it too left on the back of a truck. The Gold Coast hinterland might be the perfect place for bikes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 6:07 pm

Twitter purchase by Musk could be huge for freedom and I’m more than 50% optimistic he’ll get it right. The Twitter purchase and the firing of the three top scumbags running the place is huge.
He did this as he literally walked in.

Without a second thought as to whether or not a disaffected Twatterer might go postal.
Crazy brave!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 6:08 pm

I’ll start taking them seriously when the government orders all police, ambulance, fire and military vehicles to be switched over to electric.

Starting with Comcars, which Albo and Turtle could do tomorrow if they wanted to.
Lead by example! It’s a tell that they aren’t saying about that.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 6:08 pm

Many here are making lots of dosh from renewables. It’s a gravy train of grift.

pretty much all our money comes directly or indirectly from climate-grift
with the right skills and techmology we are in the perfect position to profit from it all.

thing is, it doesnt actually matter what I say or think, the whole religiosity of the climate scam is already baked in

that church has its foundation myths, arcane and dogmatic practices, and future saviour scenarios.
its cooked

our future landscape will be strewn with EV relics that offer no purpose or utility.

except perhaps to remind us all of so many little pyramids

efficiency and efficacy matter

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2022 6:08 pm

H B Bearsays:
October 30, 2022 at 6:03 pm
Speedbox at 5:07 – corners on bikes are great at any speed. Hardly rode my bike coming back to Perth. After my stroke, it too left on the back of a truck. The Gold Coast hinterland might be the perfect place for bikes.

Yep. Tomewin Road through to Murwillumbah then over the range to Numinbah via Chillingham with a final blast along the great winding road that follows the Hinze Dam. Motorcycle accidents in the GC hinterland are reported nearly every weekend.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:09 pm

I didn’t ride much in the Dandenongs but sirens and helicopters most weekends indicate a few people did.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 6:09 pm

just wondering what’s the alternative as I don’t see any viable ones.

oh … snap

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 6:09 pm

Prodigious talent Ashley Chandrasinghe showcased an almost lost skill amongst modern batsmen to knuckle down for 311 balls for his hundred against Tasmania in an innings that showcased his enormous potential as a future pillar of Australian batting.

That was my point.
In Test cricket that is far more valuable than a flashy 50 in an hour and getting out.

Delta A
Delta A
October 30, 2022 6:10 pm

I dumped Darling Daughter after hitting a rogue rock on my Yammy 250.

I should add that this happened on a 29 acre Adelaide Hills’ block which we owned in the ’80’s. We bought it intending to move from the city and spend our days in bucolic bliss, surrounded by our adoring family and visited often by family and friends.

The latter bit happened almost every weekend when we had up to thirty people there, all keen for the BBQ, booze and bikes. Many, many funny stories from the era, most captured on our Panasonic video and now, years later, the source of much joy, when we sit together to reminisce.

But all that Daughter will say of the time… “You dumped me off the bike!”

PS: we never built there, but all these years later, we’ve moved back to the same region in our multi generation, happy-ever-after house.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:13 pm

Should give the Adelaide hills a mention too. Could almost make an argument for living there. My cousin has a place at Crafers, feels like you are in country and your about half an hour from what passes as the CBD.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:15 pm

Snap Delta.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 30, 2022 6:18 pm

Gai Waterhouse just getting a love in from Channel Stokes. Why is this?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 6:21 pm

Speaking of the Turtle.

‘Unfeasible and unrealistic’ to have small modular reactors in Australia: Bowen (30 Oct)

We’re governed by idiots. Cry for our beloved country.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 6:22 pm

Boambee John:

After his pathetic attempt at justifying an assault on Rand Paul for “blowing leaves”, and ignoring his own pseudo-jocular response to the assault, m0nty-fa disappeared.

He’s been doing this shit for years. Takes a break when he says something spectacularly stupid, then comes back when he thinks everyone forgets.
Unfortunately, he forgets we don’t have goldfish memories – it’s him that forgets after 30 minutes.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 30, 2022 6:23 pm

Andrew Bolt: Brazen trials by media need to stop

When it comes to high-profile court cases in today’s society, there seems to be a major issue in stopping trials by media.

Brittany Higgins proved last Thursday judges can’t just ask people nicely not to make a fair trial impossible. It’s time for the stick.

ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum had told everyone, particularly journalists, to shut up as she dismissed the jury in this high-profile rape case and ordered a new trial.

As she said: “I would expect after reporting the outcome of today, that reporting of the matter should fall silent”, so the retrial wouldn’t be “impaired”.

McCallum has repeatedly made such appeals, as Higgins, journalists and activists turned this case into a political football, potentially influencing a future jury.

Forget innocent until proven guilty.

Yet moments after McCallum’s latest warning, Higgins was outside the court attacking Bruce Lehrmann, the former Liberal colleague she accuses of raping her in Parliament House after a drunken night out. (Lehrmann denies there was even sex.)

I won’t repeat what Higgins said, but many media outlets did, and Lehrmann’s barrister has asked the judge and police to investigate.

Nor will I comment on evidence in this case, which a second jury must now consider. The first was dismissed because one juror ignored the judge’s warnings not to do their own internet sleuthing.

For now, the issue is stopping such trials by media, which today seem more brazen.

The pre-trial media pack attack on the innocent Cardinal George Pell, vilified as a paedophile, was bad enough.

As Judge Peter Kidd noted when a jury initially convicted Pell, to Kidd’s apparent surprise: “We have witnessed … examples of a witch-hunt”, and “courts stand as a bulwark against such irresponsible behaviour”.

Yet the Higgins case confirmed that bulwark is under siege.

Higgins gave two media interviews claiming she was raped, before she lodged a complaint with police.

Before the trial, she was the main speaker at a March for Justice rally at Parliament House. The National Press Club had her speak, along with Grace Tame, victim of a paedophile.

In May, McCallum warned such media coverage could prevent a fair trial, but in June, days before the trial, Channel 10’s Lisa Wilkinson won a Logie for interviewing Higgins, and defiantly gave a speech on television suggesting Higgins was telling the truth.

McCallum, furious, delayed the trial for three months, saying: “The distinction between an allegation and a finding of guilt has been completely obliterated.”

But Wilkinson was not punished, and now McCallum has been defied again, it seems to me.

Pleas haven’t worked.

Time for action.

Win
Win
October 30, 2022 6:23 pm

Labor’s decisions on the renunciation of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital,the bringing home of hard core Islamist women and their impressionable jihad experienced children would suggest Labor has an infinity with our Muslim community and are using Islam as a source of material for crowd control and indoctrination. There is an unerving link between Andrews Arresting a women in her pyjamas for a face book comment and Islamic. Countries burying a women in sand to have her head battered with stones for blaspheming the Islamic holy writ or what ever else they use this torturous death to punish.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 6:24 pm

Gee Marv, one of the most heartfelt, deeply thought out, intriguing and funny posts I’ve seen here for a while. Thanks for putting in the effort. I feel more knowledgeable now.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 6:24 pm

Bowen is one of the more poisonous and incompetent ones- Minister for Immigration in their previous shit show iirc. Where the hell do they find this trash? Again, I blame tertiary ejucashun for incubating and nurturing this human garbage.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 6:26 pm

I imagine Higgins has been to the Uni.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:26 pm

Blot is right. Time for a couple of heads on sticks.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 6:27 pm

Speaking of the Turtle.

Yeah Fester I saw that. Good spotting. He’s attempting to grade himself higher than Mr Ed. It’s not going to work neither withyou, me or most the folks here.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 6:28 pm

I feel more knowledgeable now

that’ll be the day
you take a crash course in Elec Eng ?

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 6:29 pm

Roger:
Deradicalised?
Don’t look deradicalised to me.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 6:30 pm

JC … get some solder up ya

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 6:32 pm

that’ll be the day
you take a crash course in Elec Eng ?

Yeah, but you’re not.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:33 pm

Bowen, Shorten, Wong and Dreyfus continued presence is a reflection of their otherwise unemployablity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 6:33 pm

Motorcycle accidents in the GC hinterland are reported nearly every weekend.

The scariest thing in a car is to be confronted on a narrow bend by a moron with his wheels on or just inside the white line, but leaning over into the corner with his helmet well onto your side.
Can make a mess of your side mirror.

Zipster
Zipster
October 30, 2022 6:34 pm

Facebook Fined $25M By Washington State For Violating Election Law

equivalent of a speeding fine

Zipster
Zipster
October 30, 2022 6:35 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:36 pm

Can make a mess of your side mirror.

And overly optimistic filtering. Not that I would know.

Speedbox
October 30, 2022 6:36 pm

Bear – I was talking about cars (specifically in competition) although I presume you knew that.

I can’t ride a motorcycle for shit but a ‘well nailed’ corner, whether in a car or on a bike, gives the driver/rider a rush. At competition speeds, the adrenal gland is working overtime. Also, it must be said, probably the sphincter from time to time. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 30, 2022 6:37 pm

da fuk u talkin bout

mong retard

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 6:38 pm

Just because the Wayback Machine didn’t archive it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before people started linking to it.

if a web page pops up with nothing linking to it, did it ever exist?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:43 pm

OK cool. I never did any motorsport but did a lap with Jim Richards in his Carrera Cup car at Wanneroo on an insurance jolly day. Corners on bikes are great because of all the physics involved. Much more involving than a car, certainly on the street.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 6:45 pm

Yeah, but you’re not

so you say

truth is

that you are utterly clueless as to what I do in this world

your’e just doing your doxxing shtick again

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 6:47 pm

Boambee John:

People won’t put up with it anymore, blood in the streets, pollies hanging from telegraph poles, drag queen story hour, I’m angry, buy more ammo, baked beans …. etc. …

Thanks for repeating dick eds list – I did a six month inventory of the gun cabinets and realised I was down to 8,370 rounds of .308, and 2040 of 5.56.
Must talk to Elders this week some time.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 6:47 pm

Motorcycle accidents in the GC hinterland are reported nearly every weekend

Regional WA roads are bike death traps. Particularly south of Perth where cops are few and big trees and curves are many.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:47 pm

Of course, most times (all hopefully) you are nowhere near the limits of either the rider or the bike. Get the odd shock and pull your head in a bit. Especially in the wet.

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2022 6:49 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 30, 2022 at 6:33 pm
Motorcycle accidents in the GC hinterland are reported nearly every weekend.

The scariest thing in a car is to be confronted on a narrow bend by a moron with his wheels on or just inside the white line, but leaning over into the corner with his helmet well onto your side.
Can make a mess of your side mirror.

One analysis I read stated that a big cause of motorcycle accidents is exactly as you describe. I had a related event while blasting through the Snowy Mountains. I hit the corner at a ridiculous speed, overshot and with cms to spare managed to pick the bike up otherwise I would have plummeted down a cliff face which would have killed me. Didn’t slow me down. Later that day I was approaching the Vic border checkpoint at 140 ks with my body on the tank and only the top of my helmet visible. I kept watching thinking lift the boom, lift the boom! He did, I passed through at 120 ks.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 6:54 pm

Test

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 6:55 pm

.5 You cannot beat the energy density of a 50L tank of 91 ocance

50L of diesel.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 6:56 pm

Got to be careful. One guy at the rehab place crashed on one of those Himalayan bike tours. Medivac and 8 weeks in a coma with permanent brain damage and a walking frame. Nice guy but his life was changed forever.

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2022 7:05 pm

Wow, I never knew this until I just read it in the OZ. Rebs is a muff diver?

Yep, JC. A sad case. Chick turned into a muff diver because she couldn’t get a bloke.

At least internet lezzos can pull cute chicks. Rebel Wilson is just a dime-a-dozen fat chick, about whom those in authority have promised to do something, but haven’t — I suspect because they’re ruled by fat chicks at home.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 7:05 pm

.5 You cannot beat the energy density of a 50L tank of 91 octane

50L of diesel.

I think petrol has higher energy density due to the shorter hydrocarbon molecules in petrol.

duncanm
duncanm
October 30, 2022 7:07 pm

Must say, though, Rebel Wilson has made a pretty good effort to get out of the fat chick category. She’s looking a lot healthier than she used to.

Speedbox
October 30, 2022 7:07 pm

H B Bear says:
October 30, 2022 at 6:43 pm
OK cool. I never did any motorsport but did a lap with Jim Richards in his Carrera Cup car at Wanneroo on an insurance jolly day. Corners on bikes are great because of all the physics involved. Much more involving than a car, certainly on the street.

Jim was a friend of mine back in the day. He was an incredible driver and was, at one time, generally acknowledged to be the finest sports sedan driver in the world. His relationship with Porsche goes back decades.

I used to say there are three things you need to know to be competitive in motorsport. The first is: know your car – what is it capable of doing, and not doing (every car or bike has limits); secondly, know yourself and your capabilities (you may be good but no, you are probably not a clone of Ayrton Senna); thirdly, know some basic physics – what are you asking the car to do and is it simply beyond physics. When you understand and can balance those three things, you will be quick and competitive.

Winston Smith
October 30, 2022 7:11 pm

Rosie:

Someone needs to get NSW to hang on to their coal fired power, we almost need a Euro style energy crisis.

Just a two week maintenance shutdown at one of the major sites in NSW will bring on enough of an emergency the frighten the shit out of the entire East Coast power grid. It may be enough to force the government into bringing some capacity back.
If they don’t do anything about Erarang? then we’ll at least know they are trashing the grid on purpose.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 7:11 pm

Makka -one of the big issues once you get off the highways is the blue metal and tar construction. Even in Perth the sand and junk thrown into the middle of 3 way intersections can make traction an issue. If you lose the front wheel you generally aren’t recovering.

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 7:19 pm

We should have a thread – Stupid Things We Did On Motorbikes.

I have two.

– coming off on an oil patch on Warringah Expressway (and being beeped by passing motorists for making them slow down)

– riding to Menangle mid-winter in completely unsuitable clothing. Required hours of gentle defrosting by a bar heater.

Oh. And a third.

– hopping onto the red hot vinyl seat in shorts after a delightful swim at Dee Why.

😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 7:21 pm

Jim Richards finest hour was the podium presentation when he won Bathurst in one of those Ford Cosworths.

Makka
Makka
October 30, 2022 7:24 pm

Bear, I can count 4 young men over 6 years on sites I’ve worked at who have bought the farm on bikes south of Perth. Very sad. Great lads. Not always their fault either.

Yes I grant you, the litter along Perth roads and verges is appalling.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 7:24 pm

Motorcycle accidents in the GC hinterland are reported nearly every weekend.

That doesn’t surprise me.

I’ve driven on those roads in a flying brick and nearly went sideways into a tree.

I may have been going too fast.

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2022 7:27 pm

Calli I was cured of riding motorbikes after being soaked to the skin in rain on a work trip in the Otway Ranges — not after I bounced off a log truck. That’s when I adopted cars as preferred transport.

Speedbox
October 30, 2022 7:28 pm

Bear – you’re probably thinking of ’92 when he won in the Nissan GTR under controversial circumstances. Called the crowd a “pack of arseholes”. He never won Bathurst in a Sierra.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2022 7:28 pm

Years of abuse at the hands of the submarine bullies left me suicidal
A former navy lieutenant says harassment almost killed her — and all her female colleagues have been targeted too
Megan Agnew and
Harry Yorke
Sunday October 30 2022, 12.01am BST, The Sunday Times
Armed Forces

During her time in the Royal Navy, Sophie Brook spent months inside windowless submarines deep under the sea, with limited contact with the outside world and little way to escape.

It made the years-long campaign of sexual harassment, verbal abuse and bullying she says she suffered at the hands of male colleagues almost unbearable. In fact, she says, it nearly killed her.

Claims from Brook and two anonymous victims have led the Royal Navy to launch an investigation into allegations of bullying and sexual harassment against women who serve on submarines.

“I have spoken to many other women in the submarine service,” Brook, 30, a former lieutenant, told The Sunday Times, “and without exception they have all had at least one experience of misogyny or sexual harassment; but most have had dozens.

“Other women have already come forward internally and I know there are more, but they are too scared of the response from the navy and the effect it will have on their careers.”

Brook has told how, while on duty, officers repeatedly punched her, called her a “c***”, made “humping motions” and licked her neck. One officer exposed himself, another assaulted her while she slept, one inserted his genitals into her pocket and another posted 50p coins into her cabin, suggesting that she perform sex acts in return.

In revelations first published in the Daily Mail yesterday, Brook also said she discovered that she was No 6 on a “crush depth rape list”, which ranked women on the vessel depending on the order they would be raped if a catastrophic event were to cause the submarine to implode.

The Royal Navy lifted a longstanding ban on female submarine recruits in 2011. Brook joined in 2014, based on vessels including HMS Clyde at Faslane and HMS Vigilant. At one point she was one of three women in a crew of 365. Figures obtained by a freedom of information request showed that in 2019, just 1 per cent of submarine service personnel were female.

Emma Norton, a lawyer and founder of the Centre for Military Justice, which provides independent legal representation for military personnel, said: “This is a systemic problem. It is not just a few bad apples.”

Tom
Tom
October 30, 2022 7:30 pm

…not long

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 7:31 pm

I was riding some C road out behind Apollo Bay and there was that much gum tree junk on the road I was down to about 20 kph trying to stay in the tyre track. Not recommended.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 30, 2022 7:32 pm

windowless submarines

Quelle surprise!

Crossie
Crossie
October 30, 2022 7:32 pm

Facebook Fined $25M By Washington State For Violating Election Law
Once the money hungry governments realise there is a great big bucket of money to be plundered, they will be all over Facebook like flies on fresh shit.
Governments don’t see legal rights – they can cancel them whenever they want.
Facebook is now seen as a weak old horse.

Facebook have only themselves to blame by donating 300 million dollars to “fortify” the last presidential election for Biden. Now everybody knows that they have chosen a side, Democrat, and can be fleeced as the need arises. Zuckerberg may have some tech nous but he is a total knob as a person or citizen.

calli
calli
October 30, 2022 7:36 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 7:37 pm

Facebook seems likely to be the first of the tech giants to do a MySpace. No great loss.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 30, 2022 7:38 pm

mony-fa at 1514

Hold all the doubts you wish about nuclear, there is absolutely no doubt that we will never reach the targets (which will achieve only national impoverishment anyway) with ruinables.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 7:46 pm

JC says: October 30, 2022 at 4:52 pm
Heavy duty AI is 3 three years away tops

JC – the “fewcha” can show up a lot sooner than we might realise. Yours is a prediction worth tracking, especially given the fact that I first posted a comment on the Cat in mid 2011 – to try and place some perspective on the concept of time (which remains our ultimate indefatigable and unbeatable enemy).

John H.
John H.
October 30, 2022 7:46 pm

callisays:
October 30, 2022 at 7:36 pm
Music for motorcyclists.

What about Gaye Bykers on Acid?

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 30, 2022 7:49 pm

when I’m accosted after work walking home (as I was a two years ago by some privileged Wentworth children), I’ll tell them that the decorations they’re wearing are made from evil fossil fuels and that they’re climate criminals.

And give them 9rganic brussel sprouts as the “treat” as chocolate will make them fat.

Crossie
Crossie
October 30, 2022 7:50 pm

132andBush says:
October 30, 2022 at 5:47 pm
Sad and probably true but then again, who knows what the world will be like in 2035.
A shit show run by crony capitalists to an even greater extent than it is today.

Not if the next European winter teaches them a lesson that shit happens and you need to have a Plan B that is as good as your current energy supplier. We will find out how many Europeans are happy to sacrifice granny to the climate goddess.

What is far more likely is that when companies start going bankrupt from the enormous energy prices there will be shortages of everything, not just energy and heat.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 7:52 pm

Rabz – a decent hot summer and a couple of decent blackouts might make things interesting. Perth can go for years between peak demand but people are stringing up new split systems every summer.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 8:02 pm

Bear – there is not a single thing that makes life worth living that our beloved polliemuppets aren’t hell bent on destroying, apparently on the specific orders of this (cue spooky muzak …) monster. 😕

ICE vehicles – gorn
Food – gorn
Electrickery – gorn
The family – gorn
The past – gorn
Desirable young women – gorn
Domesticated companion animals – gorn

Not good.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 8:15 pm

What is far more likely is that when companies start going bankrupt from the enormous energy prices there will be shortages of everything, not just energy and heat.

It’s not just self-inflicted energy costs; it’s the pressures arising from the collapse of globalisation and the international order which underpinned it, accelerated by covid, the war in Ukraine & Xi’s philosophy & consolidation of power in China.

It’s the beginning of the end of the world we’ve known for several decades.

Those of us old enough to remember a pre-globalised world still shaped by, or just emerging from, post-WWII austerity at least have a point of reference from which we can “keep calm & carry on.”

For most of those younger than c. 50 it’s going to be an existential crisis they never saw coming.

We can only speculate on the possible political ramifications.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 8:16 pm

Harden the fuck up, sooks.
Porterhouse steak-$20/k
Scotch fillet-$23/k
Cold water-free, outta the tap
Sunlight-still free
Sleep-not against the law [yet]

P
P
October 30, 2022 8:17 pm

Neil Oliver, “Don’t Pee Down My Back and Tell Me It’s Raining”
October 29, 2022 | Sundance

Video and Transcript.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 8:18 pm

Evidence free lynchings – name your price …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 8:20 pm

I was cured of riding motorbikes after being soaked to the skin in rain on a work trip in the Otway Ranges — not after I bounced off a log truck. That’s when I adopted cars as preferred transport.

My brother is a donk guy, he’s broken most major bones in his body. He’s still alive, amazingly.
I am not like him, I like treadlies but not donks. I’ve broken exactly one bone in my body.
That was the central bone in my right hand. At a scout camp. The three weeks in plaster were quite satisfying.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 8:20 pm

It’s the gluten and mutton that keeps me awake at night.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 8:23 pm

China certainly helped (up till now). Most crap had never been so cheap in history.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 30, 2022 8:26 pm

Roger

Some of us who have just hit 50 or close to are the same. Especially with an education from eras prior to the PC crap.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 8:27 pm

Brook also said she discovered that she was No 6 on a “crush depth rape list”, which ranked women on the vessel depending on the order they would be raped if a catastrophic event were to cause the submarine to implode.

Well. That’s inventive.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 8:29 pm

“Rabz – a decent hot summer and a couple of decent blackouts might make things interesting. Perth can go for years between peak demand but people are stringing up new split systems every summer.”

We moved to Perth in 1977. I remember 40 degree heat was the norm in summer. Schools weren’t air conditioned, the buses weren’t air conditioned and nobody had air conditioning at home, in summer my mother would close the blinds and curtains early in the morning to keep the house cool, she would then open up in the afternoon when the Freo doctor arrived and it would blow a gale. We only had one fan in the house, a noisy contraption plonked on the television set in the family room, directly in front of where my father would sit in the evening after dinner so he could the ABC news. If the fan was put on, only he’d get the benefit of the air blowing. The rest of us stifled. Simpler times.

cohenite
October 30, 2022 8:31 pm

It’s not just self-inflicted energy costs; it’s the pressures arising from the collapse of globalisation and the international order which underpinned it, accelerated by covid, the war in Ukraine & Xi’s philosophy & consolidation of power in China.

It’s the beginning of the end of the world we’ve known for several decades.

The eurotrash seem to be learning very quickly. Australia’s self inflicted decline is going to be very sharp and I suspect longer. On talkback the number of cretins who ring in saying alarmism is real and we must save the planet is astounding.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 8:32 pm

Brook also said she discovered that she was No 6 on a “crush depth rape list”, …
Fucking women, always wanting to be number 1, eh?

cohenite
October 30, 2022 8:33 pm

Another reason why the mid-terms are stuffed:

TRAITOR Karl Rove’s Rove’s PAC Boosts Democrat Shapiro in Pennsylvania over Republican

Watch For These 5 Red Flags In Pennsylvania’s Elections This Year

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 8:35 pm

Do you make a list Groogs or keep them guessing and on edge?

Rabz
October 30, 2022 8:35 pm

one fan in the house, a noisy contraption plonked on the television set in the family room, directly in front of where my father would sit in the evening after dinner so he could watch the ALPBC news

My ol’ man would have been about the same age as Cassie’s. His news sources consisted of the Silly Moaning Haemorrhoid and the ALPBC, both of which were guaranteed to elevate his blood pressure (when Jack the Cat wasn’t on his case).

Simpler times indeed and in glorious B & W, as opposed to sepia …

Rabz
October 30, 2022 8:39 pm

On talkback the number of cretins who ring in saying alarmism is real and we must save the planet is astounding

Outsiders discussed this very phenomenon. Rita observed that she is an atheist (like myself) but everyone else being atheists was not a good thing as it meant they would inevitably go looking for another religion – which would not be a benign one.

Gerbil worming, come on down!

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 8:39 pm

Roger

Some of us who have just hit 50 or close to are the same. Especially with an education from eras prior to the PC crap.

I was tempted to lower the age threshold, Rockdoctor.

My thought was that those who came of age post-1992 have only ever known economic growth & an ever accelerating expansion of consumer goods to distract them from life’s deeper problems and possibilities (which is not to say it’s all been plain sailing for them either, esp. in the employment and housing markets).

All generalisations are subject to exceptions, but they can provide a useful point of reference.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 8:39 pm

My left hand index finger was endangered a short time ago. Yum protein!
Fortunately her teeth aren’t sharp.
Being nocturnal they’re nearly blind in my porch light.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 8:41 pm

Back in the day reading the SMH and watching the ALPBC wasn’t something you needed to be embarrassed about.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 8:42 pm

I’m addicted to sluts, Bear, so the issue never arises.
How about you?

cohenite
October 30, 2022 8:42 pm

Scotch fillet-$23/k

Bullshit crotchless; you’re eating goat.

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 8:43 pm

On talkback the number of cretins who ring in saying alarmism is real and we must save the planet is astounding.

For argument’s sake, what are they personally prepared to sacrifice to “make a difference”?

Roger
Roger
October 30, 2022 8:44 pm

I’m retiring for the evening, but I’ll check back for any further responses tomorrow.

G’night, Cats!

Rabz
October 30, 2022 8:44 pm

I’m addicted to sluts

FFS, Eddles, this is not some tacky porn site.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 8:45 pm

I have always liked how Sir Anthony Hopkins described atheism….it’s akin to being locked in a room with no windows.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 30, 2022 8:45 pm

For argument’s sake, what are they personally prepared to sacrifice to “make a difference”?

Not even a plastikky Halloween decoration according to Cassie, Roger.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 8:46 pm

For argument’s sake, what are they personally prepared to sacrifice to “make a difference”?

I think we might be about to find out. It’s all been pretty theoretical up till now.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 8:46 pm

Desirable young women who are not scantily clad …

cohenite
October 30, 2022 8:50 pm

For argument’s sake, what are they personally prepared to sacrifice to “make a difference”?

Personally, nothing. But everything other people, the wrong people, have.

JC
JC
October 30, 2022 8:52 pm

Eddly

I’m addicted to sluts

Don’t ever ever change. You’re the best commenter here.

miltonf
miltonf
October 30, 2022 8:54 pm

Bear – there is not a single thing that makes life worth living that our beloved polliemuppets aren’t hell bent on destroying, apparently on the specific orders of this (cue spooky muzak …) monster. ?

ICE vehicles – gorn
Food – gorn
Electrickery – gorn
The family – gorn
The past – gorn
Desirable young women – gorn
Domesticated companion animals – gorn

Not good.

It’s a full on Marxist attack in other words

John Brumble
John Brumble
October 30, 2022 8:54 pm

“..on debut for Victoria.”

Myes, of course he is.

‘Classy Tasmania attack’

Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh my sainted aunt you people are parochial clowns.

Nice hit. Not the next coming. Calm tf down.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Brook also said she discovered that she was No 6 on a “crush depth rape list”

Erm…. was this on the sub that had only three females in the crew?

Rabz
October 30, 2022 8:57 pm

Brook also said she discovered that she was No 6 on a “crush depth rape list”

Sacré bleu – yet another page added to the bulging folders (stored in the world’s largest suppository) entitled, “Things that never happened” …

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 30, 2022 9:02 pm

Thanks, pal.

Cassie of Sydney
October 30, 2022 9:08 pm

My nephews are lovely young men, and thankfully are quite conservative politically but they have no idea what it is like to go without. I sometimes tell them what it was like growing up in the 1970s and 1980s and they look at me as though I came from another planet…

No air conditioning at home
No air conditioning at school
One telephone in the house
One bathroom in the house
One television in the house
Walked to school every day
If we were thirsty and started complaining, my parents would point to the kitchen and say “there’s the tap”

Crossie
Crossie
October 30, 2022 9:09 pm

Outsiders discussed this very phenomenon. Rita observed that she is an atheist (like myself) but everyone else being atheists was not a good thing as it meant they would inevitably go looking for another religion – which would not be a benign one.

Rabz, it’s not too late yet. It’s never too late.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 9:11 pm

Charlie is exerting his awesome vibe.

Republic consultation tour set to begin next year (Sky News, 30 Oct)

A republic consultation tour is expected to begin next year, which will officially ask people’s thoughts on whether Australia should cut ties with the British monarchy.

It’s amusing to me that the Green King is alienating the same people who he needs to support the monarchy as an institution.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 9:12 pm

Down at the Schlocktor’s, Cats, for a shot of R ‘n’ B … 🙂

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 30, 2022 9:16 pm

Biden has done so well.

The world is now back into a nuclear arms race following American changes to its nuclear arms policy. Previously America, Russia, China, France and other nuclear powers were signatories to an agreement that none of them would use nuclear weapons in a first strike capacity, they would only be used when they were attacked.

America has now dropped out of that treaty and has announced that they reserve the right to use nuclear weapons whenever they think the situation merits their use.

Finland has agreed to allow NATO to install nuclear weapons on their territory, here’s the next Cuban missile crisis. They are only 200 kms. from St. Petersburg, how will Russia react to that? Finland will have to change its constitution to proceed with this plan, their present constitution forbids foreign soldiers and nuclear weapons on their soil.

Will their PM be able to pull it off? I can’t remember her name, that party girl who likes to party in her office. We are led by children, even doddering old Joe is really just a child, now he’s given us a new nuclear arms race and a new Cuban missile crisis.

I don’t mind going back to the ’60’s but here we are, and the music these days isn’t as good as it used to be back then.

Biden quietly moves world closer towards armageddon. Finland ready to host nukes
– The Duran – 25 minutes.

Rabz
October 30, 2022 9:17 pm

Charlie is exerting his awesome vibe

“It looks like it was installed by a climate denier”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 9:18 pm

Oh my sainted aunt you people are parochial clowns.
Nice hit. Not the next coming. Calm tf down.

Once it gets beyond bagging the Marsh brothers, Watto and Joe Burns I leave it up to others.

Zipster
Zipster
October 30, 2022 9:20 pm

‘You’re in World War III Today’: Casey Fleming on Unrestricted Hybrid Warfare
China in Focus – NTD
You’re in World War III today. It’s called hybrid warfare. We’re not aware of it, we don’t understand it. … But hybrid warfare, you’re in it, you’ve been in it, and it’s peaking, and it’s maturing at this point. Eventually, it’ll go to conventional warfare at some point, and we may be several years away from that, but understand that our enemy has declared us their enemy. And so therefore, they are our enemy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 9:23 pm

I’m addicted to sluts

Pity they’re not attracted, let alone addicted to you.

They hate sex, right? Right Ed?

Because that’s what you said. Only yesterday. Right?

cohenite
October 30, 2022 9:24 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 30, 2022 9:27 pm

Charlie is exerting his awesome vibe

Chuck’s courtiers would do well to remind him less is more and sign him up to open a few fetes.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 9:27 pm

Down at the Schlocktor

He looks seedy. Needs medicine.

The Remedy – Puscifier (2015)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2022 9:27 pm

One bathroom in the house

Outside toilet.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 9:31 pm

John Brumby:

‘Classy Tasmania attack’

Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh my sainted aunt you people are parochial clowns.

That was a quote from the paper. The ‘classy attack’ bit. Siddle, Bird and Meredith aren’t chook feed.

In any event, best you direct your angst into a spirited Letter to the Editor instead. One that begins: ‘Dear Sir: It never ceases to amaze me that…’

Well done, by the way, not just turning up and issuing demands to blog management. For a change.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 9:40 pm

One bathroom in the house

briquette hot water

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 30, 2022 9:46 pm

More medicine. With serious backing singers.

The Black Crowes – Remedy (1992)

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2022 9:49 pm
Real Deal
Real Deal
October 30, 2022 9:50 pm

windowless submarines

Quelle surprise!

Well TE, The USOS Seaview in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea had windows on the front. All the better to see all those giant octopuses. Or octopi.

bons
bons
October 30, 2022 9:57 pm

It is interesting that Psaki was photographed with the Twitter staff ‘representatives’ intending to meet with Musk in order to lay down their demands for their future conditions of employment???
Apparently Psaki had been sent in by Biden mob to ensure that the takeover was made untenable.
Musk moved so quickly that she was caught in the act. Musk had no intention of negotiating with anyone from the hive. Love him or hate him, he is decisive.
LNP – watch and learn. When you are given a mandate, use it.

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2022 10:02 pm

demands to blog management

well there you go … and all this time I thought it was a committee

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 30, 2022 10:04 pm

TE “windowless submarines”. How will they see where they’re going?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 10:09 pm

How will they see where they’re going?

They have a mirror on the end of a hose that extends up and down on a reel, depending on how high the waves are. You look through the other end of the hose.

I had thought this was common knowledge. God.

Beertruk
October 30, 2022 10:20 pm

I never felt I’d kill myself in a car but there’s been a few times on a bike.

A doctor who was my GP more than a few years ago called motorbike riders ‘mobile organ donors’ and ‘temporary Australians.’
She hated motorbikes and refused to let her husband have/own one.
I never owned one because:
Mum,’you are not having a motorbike, you will kill yourself.’
When I started work and was bording at my Grandparents house:
Grandmother,’ you are not having a motorbike, you will kill yourself.’
Evenntually married and now a Grandfather,
Wife,’you are not having a motorbike, you will kill yourself.’
I think there is a pattern there somewhere.
When my sister and her husband still owned their property, I would go help my BIL mustering on either the fourwheeler or farmbike, which cured me until the next visit.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 30, 2022 10:20 pm

I’m not God KD, if I was the cheating houso ranga and his mates would never play again.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 30, 2022 10:25 pm

How will they see where they’re going?

Sea Drones. Flipper the dolphin from the 1970’s sidling up to your warship might not be a good sign.

custard
custard
October 30, 2022 10:26 pm

If you go back to Twitter, keep in mind that it’s where the brainwashed normies live. They are all victims of the most powerful mind control experiment in the history of the world. We need to help them break free.

My mission is to redpill as many as possible and to help them understand that we are not their enemy.

Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/thestormredux

custard
custard
October 30, 2022 10:27 pm

I am not the above person

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 30, 2022 10:30 pm

They are all victims of the most powerful mind control experiment in the history of the world. We need to help them break free.

Custard. Your thoughts on the real purpose of HAARP would be appreciated.

Where does that fit?

bons
bons
October 30, 2022 10:39 pm

My public road riding career came to a spectacular close thanks to Plod.
I reveal in whispers that I spent a year at Flinders Uni when I had no idea what I wanted to do, and it was all free anyway.
Unis in those days actually worked on Fridays so after a late lecture and a squillion beers I climbed onto my Honda 250 Super Sports (paid for by fruit picking) and roared off down South Road in the dark and rain.
Just missing the tray of a parked truck sent me swerving across the lanes where I was immediately pounced upon by plod.
He was genuinely enraged, and after explaining what he wanted to do to me, preferably in front of my Mother, told me to give up bikes because I was too firken stupid to be on the road.
He was right. A trail bike eventually arrived and I now contemplate my ebike with some diffidence.

Zipster
Zipster
October 30, 2022 10:43 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 30, 2022 10:46 pm

How will they see where they’re going?

Interesting thing about submarines. They have active sonar on board, so they can send out a ping to see if there is a huge great sea mountain or whatever in front of them.

But they don’t.

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