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MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 5:16 pm

Have you donated yet?
Silence or telling me it’s none of my business will automatically mean you haven’t.

… but his pet-name for somebody else is ‘Rooster’

funny old joint this is

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 9, 2022 5:16 pm

Good, I hope his cock gets gnawed off by botfly lave.

Australian man jailed for 129 years in child sexual abuse case in Philippines

“Hello this is Australian consulate services Philippines how may we help you”?
Mr Scully: ” Help Im a convicted pedo and have just been sentenced to die in miserable squalor in a Philippine jail”
Consulate…. “Please hold, Ill seek clarification on what we can do”….
elevator muzac…
more muzac…
“Mr Scully you sill there, I have some positive news for you”…
“What is it”
“Weve had a whip around the office and found 1/3 of a bottle of WIlliam Lawson’s Whiskey and an old WW2 Webley with a couple of cartridges, I believe the prison has a library we can arrange for them to be left in for your use”…

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 5:24 pm

How about you magic mergatroid? Donation?

cohenite
November 9, 2022 5:26 pm

Fetterman ahead in Pennsylvania. And Kari Lake behind in Arizona.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 5:29 pm

Daily Mail. They make ’em tough in Queensland..

Farmer, 95, is miraculously found alive days after falling off his tractor and being buried in mud for two days

Queensland farm Tom Killen, 95, was trapped in the mud of his dam for two days
It is understood Mr Killen was checking irrigation pipes when he became stuck
Friend Dave Grey searched for Mr Killen on Tuesday after failing to hear from him
He found Mr Killen on Tuesday morning and learnt he’d been there since Sunday

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 9, 2022 5:30 pm

Looking down the barrel of a defeat the government idiots want to change the referendum rules.

‘Not fit for purpose’: government looks to amend ‘antiquated’ referendum laws ahead of voice vote
Linda Burney says government will propose changes to modernise the century-old act before the end of the year

A leading constitutional expert says Australia’s century-old laws around referendums are “not fit for purpose”, suggesting the government could look to amend rules around donations, funding disclosures and social media advertising before the voice to parliament vote.*

Linda Burney, the minister for Indigenous Australians, said the government would propose changes to “modernise” the Referendum Act before the end of the year, and promised a civics campaign and more information about the voice campaign in early 2023.

Prof George Williams, a University of New South Wales legal academic and member of the government’s constitutional expert group on the voice, said referendum rules should be updated before the vote in the next financial year.

Burney told ABC Radio National on Monday that amendments to the Referendum Act would be introduced before year’s end. Guardian Australia understands this could occur in the final week of parliament in late November.

“There is a very sizeable civics campaign that we need to undertake … There is a lot of work to do in getting people up to speed with what a referendum is,” Burney told Radio National.**

“What you will see in the first half of next year, and it won’t be run by the government … is some very major efforts in terms of the campaign towards the referendum.”

Responding to criticisms that there was not enough detail about the voice, including its membership and functions, Burney said “there’s a lot happening behind the scenes”.***

Burney said there would be government funding for a civics campaign, but that a decision hadn’t been reached on funding for the respective sides of the campaign.

Government sources said it may be unlikely the government would fund a No campaign, suggesting no public funding for either side was a likely outcome.****

* Anyone sensing a big fat finger being applied to the scales in favor of a predetermined outcome is a bad person!
** Propaganda is the usual work used love..
*** Awesome, so shut our eyes and open our mouth up wide here comes the referendum!!
**** So in effect every woketard and land council will be free to spend without limit, and the no case will be strangled in the crib by enormous government funded entities providing the organization and resourcing embedded in the whole Aboriginal industry.

cohenite
November 9, 2022 5:31 pm

Sorry, wrong thread.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 5:40 pm

How about you magic mergatroid? Donation?

nah JC, I sent dover a short video of you wanking

..

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 5:52 pm

Yeah, anything is possible I suppose, Magic even you making a donation.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 9, 2022 5:53 pm

Sri Lanka cricketer story revealed, says Daily Mail

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 5:56 pm

go on JC, stand on the pile of receipts and crow.

… you know you want to

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 5:57 pm

Linda Burney, the minister for Indigenous Australians, said the government would propose changes to “modernise” the Referendum Act before the end of the year, and promised a civics campaign and more information about the voice campaign in early 2023.

Isn’t Linda Burney or record as saying that, once the Voice is in the Constitution, they wwon’t be able to get rid of it, the way they did ATSIC? (N.B., ATSIC does NOT stand for Aborigines Talking Sh!t In Canberra!)

Dot
Dot
November 9, 2022 6:07 pm

Fetterman ahead

…and a neck to boot.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Frollickongmole: Mr. Peter Scully wouldn’t phone up & say he’s “just” been sentenced to forever in a Philippine jail.
….. for he’s already serving a life sentence in Panabo City (Davao Prison) for…. child sex offences.
The latest 129 yrs = just seals the deal.

When you read what he was up to, you really wish for pressing, breaking on the wheel, tongue pliers, iron maiden, flensing, & other punishments to be used.
I defy anyone to have a skerrick of mercy for him. (& I’ve usually got a little bit of mercy in my soul – none for this bloke)

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 9, 2022 6:19 pm

Salvatore,

I didnt go back and check on his backstory, I seem to recall he and his wife were basically running a prostatot online service or similar.
kids abused to order?
Is that the chap?

I didnt say the cartridges in the WW2 vintage Webley would work….
Anyway, sounds like hes getting a tiny portion of what he deserves then.

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 6:20 pm

MatrixTransform says:
November 9, 2022 at 5:56 pm
go on JC, stand on the pile of receipts and crow.

… you know you want to

The quickest lip on a building site. Is that how you self-described?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 9, 2022 6:22 pm

This is Jen Cloher with a song about her mother, early in her career – Mother’s Desk. I loved it from the go, beautiful story and voice, and the band sparks a fire. Back then, she described herself as a Kiwi and was in a modest and stable partnership with another girl, Courtney Barnett.

I bought that rekkid and signed up to the fan club- this is the latest newsletter from her record company- I won’t italicise it, bcos it’s already got a quantity of ellipsis and overscored letters which you have to read straight to get the full impact of.

We are thrilled to announce Jen Cloher’s fifth studio album I Am The River, The River Is Me. The first single Mana Takat?pui is out today!
“In 2019 I typed the words ‘M?ori word for Queer’ into Google. The word ‘takat?pui’ flashed onto my screen with this description:

‘Takat?pui is the M?ori word meaning a devoted partner of the same sex. In Western terminology, a person who identifies as takat?pui is a M?ori individual who is gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender. Takat?pui is used nowadays in response to the Western construction of “sexuality, gender, and corresponding identity expressions.”

I typed my newfound word into the M?ori Dictionary app and listened to it being spoken. It was beautiful. The extended ahh after the k, giving it a luxuriousness as it rolled off the speaker’s tongue. I marveled at the idea of one word that could explain my sexuality, gender and cultural identity. What an incredible language!

The next day on a walk with a queer, trans Samoan friend, I told them of my new discovery. I took a deep breath remembering the speaker on my app and said “takataapui” aloud for the first time. A sense of belonging ensued, like a question being answered. There was a warmth in my chest, the feeling was pride.” – Jen Cloher
PRE-ORDER THE ALBUM
RELEASING MARCH 3RD 2023

Watch Jen Cloher – ‘Mana Takat?pui’ (Official Video)
Stream / Download: https://jen-cloher.lnk.to/manatakatapui
Jen Cloher (Ng?puhi & Ng?ti Kahu) is a song-writer and performer living on unceded Wurundjeri land in Naarm (Melbourne). Cloher’s taut, terse brand of rock is charged with the static tension that comes with being an eternal misfit; they have spoken truth to power with the shrewd eye that only an outsider can possess. Admirers have naturally gravitated towards Cloher’s incisive, generous songwriting. Over the course of five albums, Cloher has won a J Award and an AIR Award and been nominated for an ARIA and the Australian Music Prize.

PRE-ORDER THE ALBUM
RELEASING MARCH 3RD 2023
I Am The River, The River Is Me, Cloher’s fifth album, is verdant and rich; it luxuriates in stillness, and carries itself with cool, unfussy confidence. It suggests that home is not found in a place or a politic, but in the community you keep: Inspired by Cloher’s powerful matrilineal line of w?hine M?ori, I Am The River, The River Is Me is not urgent, or hurried, but it is vital, made with the care and ease of someone who knows that their past began before birth, and will continue long after they’re gone.

Recorded between Aotearoa (NZ) and Naarm (Melbourne) with producers Tom Healy (Tiny Ruins, Marlon Williams), Anika Ostendorf (Hachiku) and Cloher’s longtime drummer Jen Sholakis; the album brings in trailblazing artists including Emma Donovan (Gumbaynggirr, Yamatji), Kylie Auldist, Liz Stringer, Te Kaahu (Waikato-Tainui, Ng?ti T?p?), Ruby Solly (Kai Tahu, Waitaha, K?ti M?moe) and members of the Naarm-based Kapa Haka, Te Hononga o ng? Iwi. The entire record feels communal — a celebration not just of Cloher, but of the rich, life-filled communities that surround them.
“This clip stars heroes of mine – those who continue to weave our takat?puitanga (queer M?ori culture) by standing tall. You will see dancing on the steps of NZ Parliament Greens MP Dr. Elizabeth Kerekere, whose PhD and accompanying wh?riki (weaving) ‘Mana Takat?pui’ inspired the name of this song; members of the legendary P?neke (Wellington) based Tiwhanawhana Kapa Haka who formed 30 years ago as a place for takat?pui to stand proud in our tikanga (cultural practices), the gorgeous Tangaroa Paul, a non-binary model for Infamy Apparel and soon to be Dr. Tangaroa, Jacob Tamata, an exciting new choreographer and passionate advocate of vogue ballroom dancing, The Tiwhas, a M?ori drag queen trio who serve takat?pui cabaret goodness wherever they go and Quack Pirihi, a brave, young non-binary activist who champions rangatahi (young people) growing up in a system that was never designed for M?ori to succeed.”

…In 2019 I typed the words ‘M?ori word for Queer’ into Google. …
…I typed my newfound word into the M?ori Dictionary app and listened to it being spoken. It was beautiful. …

Compare and contrast with her debut.
Identitarianism is a mental disease. Cloher has literally gone backwards, from being an unconsciously genuine individual to a wilfully obfuscating cyborg.
I mean, I wish her all the best as an individual, but I won’t be going to any more shows.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I didnt go back and check on his backstory, I seem to recall he and his wife were basically running a prostatot online service or similar.

Heh, his wife was abandoned in Melbourne, along with his kids, when he skipped Oz 12 yrs or so ago, just ahead of arrest for a couple of million bucks in securities fraud or somesuch.

He was also running in Melbourne (where he is from) an online escort service, using his girlfriend as the …worker.

What he then got up to after scarpering to the Philippines has gotta be among the sickest stuff I’ve ever read about.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 6:29 pm

The quickest lip on a building site

the best part about our dialogs JC, is watching you flail about like a toddler in deep water.

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 6:31 pm

Okay, sounds plausible, Mergs. Now go make a donation.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 9, 2022 6:31 pm

The Liberals in Victoria are finally going to preference Greens over Labor, if this morning’s Australian is correct.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 6:36 pm

Now go make a donation.

my donation is turning tricks

its all magic JC

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Are you donating blood Matrix? *Noble* of you.

Winston Smith
November 9, 2022 6:40 pm

JC:
It’s none of your damned business who supports or doesn’t support The Cat. So shove it up your arse, and find some other way to virtue signal your wealth.

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 6:41 pm

Driller

I love the pattern. Post a couple of worthless comments then go straight for the stoush troll. Do you think people don’t notice? 🙂

Now go donate. You and Mergs are two of the worst commenters here and Dover deserves compensation for those insufferable posts.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 9, 2022 6:43 pm

BTW, please consider donating to New Cat

The Blue Tick!

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 6:44 pm

Turtlhead.
Sure, it’s none of my damned business, but have you donated? Those insufferable , delusional comments come at a cost.
Now, go make a donation.

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 6:47 pm

The Blue Tick!

Yes, you beat me to it. I was at the gym and thought about suggesting a blue tick. I would add a yellow tick too for people like Turtlehead, Driller and Mergatroid etc, who posts stupid comments and have made a donation.

Dover, add a blue and yellow tick.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 6:47 pm

Now, go make a donation.

no

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 6:49 pm

..as expected.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 6:51 pm

the thing is JC, I’m such a stingy bastard…there’s no way I donate to site where your’e a commenter.

it rankles

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 9, 2022 7:00 pm

the thing is JC, I’m such a stingy bastard…there’s no way I donate to site where you’re a commenter.
it rankles

+1,000,000

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 7:01 pm

Yeah, I’m sure it rankles which is why the only comments you ever make are stoushing. It does rankle. But even so, I actually have that much influence on you? Wow. For a self described, quickest lip on a building site that level of honesty is astonishing.

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 7:02 pm

Hallward, go fly your kites.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 7:02 pm

+1,000,000

… dollars or up-ticks?

Johnny Rotten
November 9, 2022 7:07 pm

Shy Tedsays:
November 9, 2022 at 1:01 pm
I’m imagining your pommy copper, from a Somerset village, posted somewhere like Hall’s Creek or Fitzroy Crossing…

Might be busy if “puckin whart cant” is considered hate speech.

“Oi’ just come down from Somerset, where the coider ‘apples grow.”

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 7:09 pm

well JC, dover has the video

and its really generous of you, to do the voice over today

I gotta say when it comes to getting into character you’ve really put in some work there

is it a form of method-acting or, are you just a natural at it?

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 7:11 pm

I’m not as good as you though, Mergatroid. You learnt your “lip” craft on building sites. What could ever beat that.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 9, 2022 7:11 pm

MT, upticks.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 7:13 pm

MT, upticks.

dammit … I was gonna give them to JC so that he could give them to dover

Johnny Rotten
November 9, 2022 7:14 pm

Sarah, a recently widowed Jewish lady, had decided it was time to stop mourning, pack her bags and get on with her life. She had just begun to settle in at her new retirement home. She hadn’t found anyone just yet that she ‘connected with’ and was feeling kinda blue.

One morning she was going nuts watching all the ‘old people’ sitting around and playing bingo. Finally, she couldn’t take it any more so she grabbed a beach towel and walked four blocks to the nearby beach. She rented a beach chair and an umbrella. She found a pleasant spot and began to read her racy bodice-ripper novel about the ship’s captain and the sultry slave girl he had rescued from the pirates. Sarah enjoyed reading a particularly well-written love scene.

When the chapter ended, she looked up and noticed that a man about her age had placed his blanket on the sand nearby and was also reading a book. By chance there was absolutely no one else around.

Smiling, Sarah attempted to strike up a conversation with him. “Hello, how are you?” “Fine, thank you” he responded as he looked up from his book.

“I love the beach. Do you come here often?” she asked. “First time since my wife passed away last year” he replied.

To her disappointment, his eyes again turned back to his book.

Undaunted she decided to continue. “Do you live around here?” she asked. “Yes, I live over in Suntree Village” he answered, and then resumed reading.

Trying to find a topic of common interest, Sarah persisted. “Do you like pussycats?” With that, the man threw his book down, walked over, pulled Sarah onto his blanket, tore off her swimsuits and gave her the most passionate ride of her life!

As the cloud of sand began to settle, Sarah gasped and asked the man “How did you know that was what I wanted?” The man replied “How did you know my name was Katz?”

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 7:16 pm

What could ever beat that

from your perspective?

probably nothing

Johnny Rotten
November 9, 2022 7:16 pm

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

– Arthur Conan Doyle

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 7:20 pm

Mergs

Someone reckons I ought to change your nameplate to Empty. Not me. S/he reckons it better describes your contributions here, which is more of a reason to go and post a donation.

You should too, Hallward. You’ve been whining and complaining about me and others wanting us to be banned. You threaten to go take your valuable contributions to the Lollipop Cat, but you’re always here like a smelly fart in a small room. Now go make a donation you miserable twat. Only a few days ago you were hoping Putin nukes 530 million Europeans, you evil Kunt.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 9, 2022 7:26 pm

Had a chat to the emergency services minister here in WA, had underestimated him based on past appearances (almost none).

Sharp as a tack and quick to see an opportunity, I mentioned a possible tourist bonanza sitting idle and he straight up thought it might be worth sending to the tourism minister to see if it could be done.
So written up a little proposal for the company to get permission to make an approach to the minister.

I had only vaguely heard about this but apparently people coming from all over the world in their tens of thousands to experience it.
https://ningalooeclipse.com/

Exmouth is the place to be, total eclipse.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 7:29 pm

Someone reckons I ought to change your nameplate to Empty

an Empty Matrix only needs to be empty in at minimum, a single dimension
which, is kind of stupid

so they probably meant Null or Zero Matrix
at least that’d be funny

JC, you’re probably still in voice-over mode

leads me to believe that you’re not just trying to be a wanker
or even channeling yr inner wanker
but more likely, you’ve always been a wanker

ie. this stuff really does come naturally to you, eh?

rosie
rosie
November 9, 2022 7:56 pm

There appears to have been an opportunity to part company before taking him home if behaviour wasn’t to your liking.
does sound a little bit like a change of mind case

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 7:56 pm

JC,

we learn math on building sites too. … can’t just solder all day

jonno shouted 7 coffees, a vanilla slice and 3 beers yesterday
thommo shouted 5 cans of V, a chicko roll and a dozen dim sims
danno shouted a fisherman’s basket and a jug and 4 extra potato cakes

the question is … what does JC have to do to stop being a wanker?

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 8:04 pm

Mergatroid

Eyrie says:
November 9, 2022 at 7:00 pm

the thing is JC, I’m such a stingy bastard…there’s no way I donate to site where you’re a commenter.
it rankles

+1,000,000

You pretend right wingers. You charlatans. The argument you’re making is exactly the same argument angry far-leftwingers are making over Musk’s acquisition of twitter and forking over a lousy sum per month.

You always were fucking frauds.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 8:07 pm

ok … trick question.

… there’s nothing that JC can do to stop being a wanker

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 8:11 pm

* waves

caught up yet JC?

Roger
Roger
November 9, 2022 8:21 pm

There appears to have been an opportunity to part company before taking him home if behaviour wasn’t to your liking.

Hello.

It won’t affect the case, which will centre around consent, but in this era of feminism rampant, why are so many young women bereft of the common sense and instinctive self-preservation which their grandmothers would have possessed?

Patrick Kelly
Patrick Kelly
November 9, 2022 8:27 pm

Back to the Optus debacle over hackers getting into their data base. If you don’t give Optus your bank details they charge an extra fee described as non-direct-debit charge. How brazen is that?

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 8:29 pm

why are so many young women bereft of the common sense and instinctive self-preservation which their grandmothers would have possessed?

Rog, they’re taught they can do anything they want and can be just like blokes.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 9, 2022 8:30 pm

Low-key, token reporting on the ABC website on Peter Scully and the Philippines, but nothing since. But then he’s not a political conservative or a priest.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Low-key, token reporting on the ABC website on Peter Scully and the Philippines

The unkind would say because: There but for the grace of God go several of their staff room comrades, & may even yet happen.

I’m sure that’s not the reason they’re going light on the story.

Roger
Roger
November 9, 2022 8:34 pm

Rog, they’re taught they can do anything they want and can be just like blokes.

Self-evidently one of the biggest lies out there, JC.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 9, 2022 8:38 pm

Farmer, 95, is miraculously found alive days after falling off his tractor and being buried in mud for two days

I attended a similar case in the Adelaide Hills. Farmer in his mid 90s, ran himself over with his tractor (which then went down the hill and sunk in the dam). He picked himself up, and went up to the house, leaving a stead trail of blood. Once inside, rang his son, had a nice chat for a few minutes before the son asked ‘and how are you dad’, which received the ‘not the best’ answer, and the story.

We got the call out and attended by helicopter. During our time on scene, the son arrived and I told him Dad was still conscious, but at his age, this would likely be fatal. Son then said ‘ I told him to get rid of that the last time he ran himself over’.

Needless to say, after a few days in ICU he got out and survived. The tractor stayed in the dam.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 9, 2022 8:40 pm

My understanding was any accommodation near Exmouth around time time of the eclipse was booked out ages ago. Which wouldn’t be much anyway.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 9, 2022 8:41 pm

Best of luck Mole, but
written up a little proposal for the company to get permission to make an approach to the minister
shows the millstone mongocracy we’re trying to exist under.

rosie
rosie
November 9, 2022 8:42 pm

“grandmothers would have possessed?”
Most grandmothers wouldn’t have dreamed of being on a hook up site for the purpose of arranging a ‘one night stand’.
Sounds like it wasn’t quite as romantic as expected.

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 8:43 pm

Rog

Wifey was talking our kid on NY a few weeks ago. She’s an adult! She told wifey she walked across Central Park from the West Side to the East late that previous evening and wifey/we were fucking horrified. There’s nothing that can be done except eventually, they learn from their mistakes if they’re lucky. You keep rolling the dice and one time it’s not going to work out. Any sheila doing that in Grandma’s day would’ve been disowned or sent to a mental asylum. Welcome to 2022 when gals can do anything a bloke can.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 8:54 pm

US State Tennessee officially votes to outlaw slavery in midterms
Rachel FennerThe West Australian
Wed, 9 November 2022 4:45PM
Comments

We’ve seen the films and watched the TV shows – in 1861 the American Civil War was fought to outlaw slavery.

However, remnants of America’s slave history still exist within the US Constitution and within many State constitutions.

One line in these constitutions allows slavery as punishment.

In today’s Midterm Election residents of Tennessee in the US south overwhelmingly voted to “Remove Constitutional Language Allowing Slavery as Punishment”

Sadly, 20 per cent of Tennessean voters said no to removing the language from the constitution.

The law is a leftover of America’s cruel antebellum period (which spanned from 1812 to 1861 and allowed the use of slavery).

Until today’s vote, the Tennessean Constitution stated, “That slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime, whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, are forever prohibited by this State”.

The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution includes a similar caveat that abolishes slavery “except as punishment for a crime”.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 9, 2022 8:56 pm

involuntary servitude… as punishment for a crime
Bring it, good and hard.

Winston Smith
November 9, 2022 9:02 pm

FlungDuk:

I attended a similar case in the Adelaide Hills. Farmer in his mid 90s, ran himself over with his tractor (which then went down the hill and sunk in the dam). He picked himself up, and went up to the house, leaving a stead trail of blood. Once inside, rang his son, had a nice chat for a few minutes before the son asked ‘and how are you dad’, which received the ‘not the best’ answer, and the story.

We should have a meet up and swap yarns…

Winston Smith
November 9, 2022 9:12 pm

Walli:

involuntary servitude… as punishment for a crime
Bring it, good and hard.

And no accomodation outside a tent – somewhere in the Great Sandy.
Or Heard Island.
(I don’t have a problem with the Heard Islanders apart from the fact they’re overdressed, poncy and are really difficult to keep on the grill unless you shoot ’em first. …and I reckon they have a drinking problem.)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 9:23 pm

Ben Roberts-Smith in court over defence documents
By Joanna Panagopoulos
14 minutes ago November 9, 2022

Australia’s most decorated living soldier Ben Roberts-Smith is ­requesting access to documents concealed by the Department of Defence in court.

These documents could be ­related to meetings between journalists and the department, The Daily Telegraph has reported.

It follows the close of a more than 100-day defamation trial against Nine newspapers, which he says wrongly accused him of committing war crimes and murdering six unarmed persons while serving in Afghanistan.

This new legal action, which will be heard in the Administrative Appeals Tribunal on Thursday, comes as he awaits a verdict from the Federal Court in the defamation case.

There is no indication for when the verdict will be handed down.

Mr Roberts-Smith will reportedly apply for a review under freedom of information laws which are keeping the Department of Defence documents hidden.

The defamation case included evidence from numerous unnamed Special Air Service personnel, and defence documents were relied upon to back up or deny claims in some cases, The Daily Telegraph reported.

Mr Roberts-Smith was awarded the highest military honour, the Victoria Cross, for bravery during a battle in 2010.

He continues to deny Nine’s claims about his conduct in Afghanistan. In his closing submissions, his lawyer Arthur Moses SC said the allegations were urged by “corrosive jealousy”.

Nine Newspapers maintains that the articles’ claims are true.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 9, 2022 9:31 pm

The Uber Drivers are serving it up to the Sheep Shaggers in the crocquet.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 9, 2022 10:08 pm

These western Indian blokes (as opposed to West Indian blokes) are going to smash this out of the park.

Notably, Matthew Hayden is on the Pakis’ coaching staff.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 10:23 pm

Daily Mail. Off with his head…….

Man is arrested by police ‘after throwing eggs at King Charles and Queen Consort during walkabout in York

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 9, 2022 10:26 pm

Ohhhhhhhh.

Everyone’s on the mid-terms thread.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 9, 2022 10:54 pm

Maybe you could do a joke routine Knuckles?

On second thoughts….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 11:01 pm

Top Ender, were you serious about your new book on the sinking of HMAS Sydney?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 9, 2022 11:02 pm

Back in Australia (the Tele):

Britanny Higgins has stepped out for her first public appearance since her high profile sexual assault case was aborted.

A couple of poor word choices there. ‘Stepped’ and ‘aborted’. Suitable replacements may have been ‘waddled’ and ‘put out of its misery’.

Higgins attended the Marie Claire Women of the Year Awards at Sydney’s Rockpool with partner David Sharaz her side on Wednesday evening. She and Grace Tame appeared on the cover of the 2021 issue.

While Tame walked the carpet and posed for photographers on the media wall, Higgins arrived early to avoid attention and chose not to be photographed.

Possibly because there wasn’t a red carpet wide enough.

She mingled with guests inside and was sat at the same table as the likes of Tame and actor Sophia Forrest.

The buffet table.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 9, 2022 11:03 pm

On second thoughts….

No no, if that’s what the public want….

Did you hear about the T-Rex that bought a gun shop?
He was a small-arms dealer.

MatrixTransform
November 9, 2022 11:07 pm

gawd its quiet here

where’s the puppy?

… I feel like kicking a Chihuahua

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 9, 2022 11:09 pm

Farter time.

Before that – the greatest joke ever told, as follows:

Once upon a time, there was a group of women sitting together and quietly minding their own business.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 11:24 pm

Once upon a time, there was a group of women sitting together and quietly minding their own business.

“Now listen young Zulu Kilo. Women are the most delightful of God’s creatures, provided you don’t have anything to do with them until after eight o’clock at night..”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 9, 2022 11:27 pm

I think it’s a little deeper than “women can do whatever men can do”

Government keeps enacting laws to keep women “ safe” and telling them that once they just enact enough laws nothing bad can happen.

Which Completely ignores the mad and bad who didn’t get the memo rape is now super probationary double banned instead of just illegal.

Things like this turd
Ps: this may be the greatest love story ever told… or atleast great Dot bait.

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/11649026

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 9, 2022 11:29 pm

Man is arrested by police ‘after throwing eggs at King Charles and Queen Consort during walkabout in York

He was arrested near Micklegate Bar – he’ll get a fair trial, before his head appears there….

rickw
rickw
November 10, 2022 12:18 am

Just watching some MTC advertising in the Maldives.

It’s all about progress, reclaiming more land, constructing buildings, shipping produce, welding, working in a machine shop, being a diesel mechanic, underwater welding, working on a fishing boat, working at the power station, working at the airport, making roads, working at the port.

It’s like an old school VB at sans VB and with a lot more realism.

Meanwhile The West is cutting its own throat over these very same activities, over some bullshit lie that this lot are going to drown in 100 years……

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 10, 2022 12:27 am

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you mob.

Mme Zulu is finally gaining weight after her treatment for cancer, the mailman’s camels have delivered Max Hastings’s new book on the Cuban Missile Crisis, and I’m off to bed.

Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:05 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 10, 2022 4:06 am

I donated to the New Cat a while back but then held back because I wasn’t sure if it was the blog for me.

Dover’s Duelling thread seems to have fixed some of the excessive aggro and so I will donate again once I return to Australia. I prefer to make one larger donation a year (more than I pay for Quadrant or the IPA) rather than pay a subscription in monthly amounts. I don’t agree with pressuring anyone to donate as circumstances differ, and can change. I also think smaller irregular donations are fine, we all have plenty of other things to subsidise. It’s a free choice.

Thanks always to Dover for putting in the effort to keep Catallaxy going.

Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 10, 2022 4:09 am
min
min
November 10, 2022 4:27 am

Pressed wrong line no probs

rosie
rosie
November 10, 2022 4:34 am
Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 4:43 am

Two Vicars in their lovely Devon parishes meet up every Tuesday for lunch at a pub in between the 2 villages. They always go for a ride on their bikes afterwards.

One week one of the Vicars turns up very late, out of breath and no bike. The other asks where his bike is. And the reply is it’s been stolen from outside the church.

“The problem is I don’t want to offend any of parishioners however it must have been one of them that took it I don’t know what to do”.

The other Vicar says my advice would be at your service next Sunday go through the 10 commandments when you get to “Thou shall not steal” the guilty party will realise the error of his ways and return your bike.

The following week the vicar turns up on his bike, his colleague says “The ten commandments speech worked I see” the other vicar says “Sort of, when I got to “thou shall not commit adultery” I remembered where I left it!!”

Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 4:46 am

I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man I keep his house.

– Zsa Zsa Gabor

will
will
November 10, 2022 6:14 am
Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
November 10, 2022 6:19 am

Great quote from an article in todays Spectator.

“Former Liberal premier Ted Baillieu had many faults as a politician. But integrity wasn’t one of them.”

https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/vic-libs-dont-be-the-greens-useful-idiots/

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 10, 2022 7:06 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says: Top Ender, were you serious about your new book on the sinking of HMAS Sydney?

Yes, certainly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 10, 2022 7:14 am

Top Endersays:

November 10, 2022 at 7:06 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says: Top Ender, were you serious about your new book on the sinking of HMAS Sydney?

Yes, certainly

Is Ed helping with research?

Mater
November 10, 2022 7:20 am

LOL!
Too late to switch the fix?

From the Guardian:

A longtime Pennsylvania state representative was re-elected in a landslide – even though he died last month.
Democrat Anthony “Tony” DeLuca, Pennsylvania’s longest-serving state representative, was the choice in more than 85% of votes cast.
DeLuca, 85, died on 9 October from lymphoma, a disease he had twice previously fended off…

“While we’re incredibly saddened by the loss of Representative Tony DeLuca, we are proud to see the voters continue to show their confidence in him and his commitment to Democratic values by re-electing him posthumously,” the Pennsylvania House Democratic campaign committee said in a tweet.

Dead people voting for dead people. It has an ironic twist to it.

Cassie of Sydney
November 10, 2022 7:24 am

“Higgins attended the Marie Claire Women of the Year Awards at Sydney’s Rockpool with partner David Sharaz her side on Wednesday evening. She and Grace Tame appeared on the cover of the 2021 issue.”

So much for keeping a low profile.

Cassie of Sydney
November 10, 2022 7:27 am

“A longtime Pennsylvania state representative was re-elected in a landslide – even though he died last month.”

Oh right, this must be why the fat fascist fuckwit, over on the midterm thread, was gloating last night how the PA legislature flipped from red to blue.

“Dead people voting for dead people. It has an ironic twist to it.”

The Democrat Party are modern day tomb raiders.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 7:27 am

Sounds like something from the Bee, Mater.

As the very non-political Beloved just opined, “America has become a very sad place”.

I refuse to expend any emotional energy on what has happened there politically. The place is winding down to ruin, and we will be taken along with it one way or another.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 10, 2022 7:34 am

I hope to sub-contract the chapter on Japanese submarines to Ed. Lots of overseas research involved.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 10, 2022 7:36 am

From the Oz:-

Facebook owner Meta will lay off more than 11,000 of its staff in “the most difficult changes we’ve made in Meta’s history”, boss Mark Zuckerberg said on Wednesday.
He said the cuts represented 13 per cent of the social media titan’s workforce and would affect its research lab focusing on the metaverse as well as its apps, which include Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp.

That is more than three times the number Musk fired.
Will there be outrage?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 10, 2022 7:40 am

Top Endersays:

November 10, 2022 at 7:34 am

I hope to sub-contract the chapter on Japanese submarines to Ed. Lots of overseas research involved.

CHAPTER 6 – The Mysterious White Subs.
There were no submarines, white or otherwise, involved in the sinking of HMAS Sydney.
None.
Nada.
Zero.
Zip.
…………………. end of chapter …………………

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 10, 2022 7:40 am

Pay me, TE.

Mater
November 10, 2022 7:41 am

Sounds like something from the Bee, Mater.

It does!
Sadly, it’s not.

Cassie of Sydney
November 10, 2022 7:45 am

“The place is winding down to ruin, and we will be taken along with it one way or another.

Yep.

The problem is the young, they’re fully indoctrinated. And the centre-right, the right and conservatives, all of whom have refused to fight any of the culture wars, must shoulder a lot of blame for this. No different to here in Oz where we witnessed almost nine years of so called Coalition governance that did nothing to fight anything.

Anyway, bring it on, the blackouts, the unaffordable power bills, the ruin of small and medium sized businesses (oh wait, that’s already happened and happening, thanks to lockdowns), the castration of prepubescent and adolescent boys, the chopping off of adolescent girl’s breasts, the placing of male rapists with their fully intact penises in female only prisons, all because they “identify as women”, and all the rest of the truly wonderful cultural, social and economic enrichment that progressivism brings.

I don’t think yesterday was a catastrophe, it was a disappointment but the GOP is on track to take the house and the senate will probably just stay the same because with the run-off in Georgia the Demonrats will cheat and therefore take the senate seat.

There was one magnificent result yesterday, DeSantis slayed the Demonrats in Florida. His government kept Florida open, and he bravely fights the culture wars and he was richly rewarded. As he said yesterday on stage when accepting the result, Florida is where woke comes to die. Watching him on stage with his exquisite wife (a cancer survivor) and three exquisite children, I thought that this must be the future. I think America in 2024 will be crying out for DeSantis. At least in the US they can look to Florida and men like DeSantis. Here we have nothing.

Razey
Razey
November 10, 2022 7:48 am

Here we have nothing.

THIS

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 7:51 am

Russians officially withdrawing from Kherson. What a day for freedom. I wasn’t expecting this so early, and with so few Ukraine losses.

Megan
Megan
November 10, 2022 7:53 am

Cassie @7.45.

You are my people. Perfectly said.

Razey
Razey
November 10, 2022 7:56 am

It is a rootless age when 100 of the leaders of various Christian and other churches in Oceania can pen an open letter to Prime Minister Albanese demanding Australia stop ‘approving new coal and gas projects’.

https://twitter.com/SpectatorOz/status/1590435401109745667?cxt=HHwWhsDRlcSkrpIsAAAA

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 8:01 am

Russians officially withdrawing from Kherson. What a day for freedom. I wasn’t expecting this so early, and with so few Ukraine losses.

Winter is coming….

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 8:05 am

Rarely do I comment with any degree of solemnity on political matters in foreign countries.

I will say, though, that the people sitting on leather on both sides of the fence here – and particularly on one side – would do well to note the midterm results and the consequent outcomes:

1. Being nice does not work;
2. Offering yourself as an alternative to a stooge of the faceless men is fine, as long as you aren’t a beige weathervane yourself;
3. Your platform sits at 100% of X. If you spread that platform out across twenty different causes and/or philosophies, each of those will sit at 5%. Consequently, not only will you not please everyone, but you will attract rancour because you’ll be seen as not supporting people’s causes/philosophies enough; and
4. If you are good enough people will gravitate to you, rather than you being compelled to gravitate to them.

Also, try and stay away from the ‘everyone who doesn’t agree with me is a traitorous peddler lizard overlord with no standing’ approach.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 10, 2022 8:07 am

The fully indoctrinated young are quite an issue. They apparently refuse to marry, yet have plenty of weird sex. They refuse to have children. They resent their parents apparent affluence without realising that this comes over decades of time. They revel in activism, wanting to revert to poverty – like living conditions, so they say – ie no travel, no coal, no plastics, no meat. They are already sad and miserable and anxious and depressed by 30 years old. I find it astonishing.

Indolent
Indolent
November 10, 2022 8:07 am

Do you get the feeling they’re planning to inventory your every breath?

Gore announces fossil fuel emissions inventory

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 8:08 am

Winter is coming….

I suspect it is, yes.

History doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes.

– Liability Bob, who stole it from several other people.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 8:09 am

And the centre-right, the right and conservatives, all of whom have refused to fight any of the culture wars, must shoulder a lot of blame for this.

I have fought the “culture wars” on the few fronts available to me – through my family and my church and at any of the little friendship groups to which I belong. Every single one is infested with “progressives” who are proud of the fact and strident in their opinions.

You say your piece and move on. They don’t listen. Impossible to persuade, they are as invested in their world view as I am in mine.

The cogs of political and social thought have moved ever leftwards so that people like myself are now akin to Nazis, at worst, and cranks at best in their poisoned and adapted minds. This won’t change any time soon.

Indolent
Indolent
November 10, 2022 8:09 am

“Malicious” is understating it to the nth degree.

Climate Change is a Malicious, Dangerous Myth

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 8:10 am

From the Oz

Challenge to hold back a runaway NDIS. It’s a good idea gone badly wrong and as much as there is public goodwill for the NDIS, it isn’t bottomless.

And that, writ large, is the problem with welfarism.

Who was it said ‘the only nations that can afford a welfare system are the nations that don’t need it’

rosie
rosie
November 10, 2022 8:10 am

“Also, try and stay away from the ‘everyone who doesn’t agree with me is a traitorous peddler lizard overlord with no standing’ approach.”

Don’t be ridiculous, that’s a winning strategy every single time.

Indolent
Indolent
November 10, 2022 8:12 am
Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 8:16 am

de Luca/Fetterman 2024!

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 8:17 am

Also from the Oz:

Overwhelmed hospital system failing patients. Hospital emergency departments are in a state of crisis as they struggle with record numbers of presentations, blowouts in waiting times, low staffing and a spike in chronic illness.

Wow, its almost like the current model isn’t working???

Big food (carbohydrates and seed oils)
Big health (statins, vaxxines, lockdowns, a pill for every lifestyle ill)
Big government (welfare, nanny state, tranny state, elimination of consequences for actions, attacks on morality)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 8:17 am

It’s a good idea gone badly wrong and as much as there is public goodwill for the NDIS, it isn’t bottomless.

It’s human nature. Give an inch, they’ll take a mile. As is the case with parenting teenage children, if people see the boundaries are blurred they’ll take it on every time.

They’re paying hookers to spins around on people while hanging from ceiling fans now, under the guise of ‘intimacy’. That’s a brilliant idea. Free roots, as long as you tick the box (phrasing).

It’s a matter of time before pimply kids are being contracted out to improve people’s Call of Duty performance, and therefore their self-esteem.

Cassie of Sydney
November 10, 2022 8:22 am

“You say your piece and move on. They don’t listen. Impossible to persuade, they are as invested in their world view as I am in mine.”

Indeed….I say my piece, proudly and loudly. But that’s the thing, too many on the right hide in the corner like frightened mice. Rather, they should state their opinions, it doesn’t matter if they don’t listen* or are impossible to persuade.

* Actually, they do listen and they’re shocked and to that I say…GOOD.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 8:23 am

https://blazingcatfur.ca/2022/11/09/this-is-officially-a-wef-war-now-ending-war-in-ukraine-necessary-to-tackle-climate-crisis-zelenskiy-says/

The Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, has told world leaders they will not be able to tackle the climate crisis unless Russia’s invasion of his country ends.

Every cloud has a silver lining…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 10, 2022 8:29 am

You say your piece and move on. They don’t listen. Impossible to persuade, they are as invested in their world view as I am in mine.

My take too Cali especially the bolded bit. I would add I don’t think they want to listen even with evidence. As you say we move on as pushing the point would give the appearance of being dogmatic.

Indolent
Indolent
November 10, 2022 8:30 am
Zipster
November 10, 2022 8:31 am

Challenge to hold back a runaway NDIS. It’s a good idea gone badly wrong and as much as there is public goodwill for the NDIS, it isn’t bottomless.

it was never a good idea

Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 8:35 am

It’s a matter of time before pimply kids are being contracted out to improve people’s Call of Duty performance, and therefore their self-esteem.

The first thing to do, marooned on an uncharted island is punch the shit out of trees.

Imagine a kid coaching “disabled” adults how to play minecraft.

Taxpayer funds well spent!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 10, 2022 8:38 am

As much as I dislike Hit and Giggle, its just not cricket, I did see some of last nights Paki’s pasting Kiwi’s. Never seen the Paki’s on fire like that. They are usually lazy at best in the field. Good on them.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 8:41 am

ZK2A:

Australia’s most decorated living soldier Ben Roberts-Smith is ­requesting access to documents concealed by the Department of Defence in court.
These documents could be ­related to meetings between journalists and the department, The Daily Telegraph has reported.

Jayzuz!
Has the DoD been colluding with the prestitutes while using junior ranks to intimidate ranks more senior to them?
6 lines deleted.
Call it self censorship if you will. But I have little confidence in the hierarchy of the armed forces to do the jobs they were sworn to do.
Australia desperately needs a purge of the upper ranks and a return to National Service of all the sexes* to dilute the rot and bring the Armed Forces back to a mirror of the society it is supposed to defend.
* 🙂

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 8:43 am

Jeez, Bitcoin is getting the shit kicked out of it.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 8:44 am

Rockdoc, I don’t like burning bridges. And people, when it all boils down, are far more than their politics. There’s always a possibility that one or two might change their minds when hit with life’s cluebat. It happens.

The important bit is to avoid “I told you so”. That way you’ve lost them all over again. 😀

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 8:47 am

ZK2A:

Mme Zulu is finally gaining weight after her treatment for cancer,

Pleased to hear that. Little to no chance of the bastard returning?

Zipster
November 10, 2022 8:49 am

I refuse to expend any emotional energy on what has happened there politically. The place is winding down to ruin, and we will be taken along with it one way or another.

Been rewatching The World at War. The parallels are striking. Sitting idly by while a dictatorship rapidly builds up its military only leads to one outcome.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 8:50 am

How could this have happened? Totally unexpected (the Tele):

A Sydney council has warned residents about the safety risks of running power cords into public streets to charge their electric cars, after more images emerged online of the risky practice.

Several incidents of hazardous extension cords crossing footpaths and fences in the Mosman suburb have been shared in the past few days on social media.

In one incident, a resident hooked a power cord through a tree over public land to charge their electric car.

The exact sort of people with more money than sense to live in single-fronted inner-city floghouses with no off-street parking, and that also buy electric cars.

A NSW Fire and Rescue spokesman said failing to use an approved charging system was “not ideal” and added a fire risk to homes.

“I think when you’ve got cables going across metal fences, through trees and out to a vehicle, coming off household power, it’s not ideal, it’s not good practice,” he said.

“As time goes on and equipment wears out, it adds to the fire risk of the home. There’s nothing to protect it from the weather, the elements and vandals.”

I am extremely confident insurance companies will have something to say when houses burn down because their occupants have been deliberately overloading domestic electrical systems to charge their Virtuemobiles.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 8:51 am

The important bit is to avoid “I told you so”

That’s the best bit.

Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 8:54 am

Dot bait indeed.

That Narkle is one of the most notorious.

A homeless man.
Women.
Children.

It’s almost as though if he was given an appropriate sentence in the first place, a lot of the subsequent crimes would have been deterred or impossible.

Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 8:58 am

I actually can’t troll with excerpts of the Lady Pages from Medium anymore.

They’re so batshit it would take all day. They have ramped up their craziness and article frequency lately.

What a ridiculous woman.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2022/10/19/ejaculate-responsibly-book/

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 9:01 am

Jeez, Bitcoin is getting the shit kicked out of it.

Yep, triggered by failure of a major exchange (FTX). Hopefully this is the ‘Leman Moment’ I have been waiting for produces a final sharp downturn to end the current bear market. I think BTC will bottom this month.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 10, 2022 9:02 am

flyingduksays:
November 10, 2022 at 8:17 am
Also from the Oz:

Overwhelmed hospital system failing patients.

flyingduk,

I have to give a positive Thumbs up to the NSW Hospital medical system with special mention to RNSH & St Vincent’s – Quality of care of all involved, Specialists,Residents, Nurses, Admin Excellent

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 9:03 am

A NSW Fire and Rescue spokesman said failing to use an approved charging system was “not ideal” and added a fire risk to homes.

No mention of the intrinsic risk posed by the batteries themselves, even if charged appropriately?

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/11/saving-the-world-with-lithium-four-times-a-week-an-e-bike-battery-explodes-into-flames-in-new-york/

Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 9:06 am

In a manner, the state failed Narkle.

It failed to punish and rehabilitate him.

More devout Christians than me will reflect that the state has also impeded his chance of salvation.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 9:07 am

Sitting idly by while a dictatorship rapidly builds up its military only leads to one outcome.

Quite.

But what do you suggest I do apart from mouthing off on a blog on the other side of the Pacific? My thoughts run to practical words and actions within my circle, not vanity posts on insurrection from the rear.

Over the top! But you first if you please. 🙂

Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 9:07 am

(I’m not Judge Smails. I don’t believe in executing colored boys for their own good).

Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 9:08 am

2022 A House Divided Eventually Falls

From Armstrong Economics –

COMMENT: Marty,

Once again your caution proved to be warranted. 2020 looks like it was a dry run for how Democrats will hold onto power….vote harvesting and the Dominion Systems.

I wondered what the week of November 7 would be about. Now it seems we have the answer.

REPLY: I do not have the luxury of personal opinion. My job is to relay what the computer is projecting. It just did not show this idea of a Red Wave. The computer showed that the Republicans could take the House, but not the Senate. This will only help to keep the polarization of the United States. The left simply hates the right and this is what will eventually lead to civil unrest and the break up of the United States.

This hatred began with Hillary calling Republicans “deplorable” and her blaming Putin for her own failed policies which are what the younger girls in our office call Feminine Nazis. She was so 1960’s women’s lib that girls should be drafted into the military which resulted in so many younger girls being anti-Hillary. But the hatred she had from the gender wars of the ’60s and blaming Putin after creating the fake Russian dossier on Trump set in motion this great divide. The Democrats still believe that Putin rigged the 2016 election. There is no changing that. It is not just the far right that believed in rigged elections. The Democrats still cling to the same idea.

The net result of this war between the left v right is the end of the United States. There is absolutely no reason to have a single nation where one side gets to oppress the other every 4 years. As Lincoln said, a country divided cannot stand.

This election is more than what our computer projected. The future demise of the United States would not unfold without the country being deeply divided. The Democrats now believe the people are ready to surrender everything for climate change and want world war III and the destruction of Russia. After all, what I hear from behind the curtain is that those Russians are right-wing religious fanatics who are against abortion and LGBT. They need to be wiped from the face of the earth. They have made this both a claimed war for democracy (tyranny) and religion against the far-right. That hatred of demonizing Russia is the critical link for the projection of 2032.

Nobody will accept elections as being fair from here on out. Welcome to the new age of economic enslavement and absolute tyranny all for Climate Change and then their push for the one-world government headed by the United Nations. They needed Biden who will sign whatever they put in front of him. They need the UN because no single country can fight climate change.

The end of any democratic right to vote is their agenda.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/2022-a-house-divided-eventually-falls/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 10, 2022 9:08 am

New research has illuminated the mechanisms of potential mRNA vaccine integration into genes. This research adds to the ongoing debate about whether mRNA vaccines can alter human DNA. In an effort to curb the uncontrollable spread of SARS-CoV-2, mRNA vaccines were broadly administered to the global population. Though mRNA technology enabled the quick development and deployment of the much-needed vaccines, its long-term safety is now at the forefront of concern.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-may-integrate-into-the-human-genome-8295eff9

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 10, 2022 9:09 am

Ya gotta tease the audience Sancho. Rhetorical questions and so on. Plus alliteration – gets them every time.

Something like: “Did a rogue submarine captain guide in a squadron of Japanese boats and unleash several salvoes of torpedoes upon an unaware HMAS Sydney?”

and

“Was this followed up by a strike from carrier Kaga, hurtling down horror on the hapless heads of the terrified sailors of the Aussie cruiser?”

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 9:10 am

“I think when you’ve got cables going across metal fences, through trees and out to a vehicle, coming off household power, it’s not ideal, it’s not good practice,” he said.

No. Especially when the watering system kicks in.

I hope those leads are all tagged. Safety first!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 9:13 am

In a meeting and they are doing the ‘acknowledgement’ thing.

What does acknowledgement mean. We notice it but we will do our own thing? Or are we saying that we are granting ceding rights and authority to them?

I don’t think even they know. They are just told that that is what they have to say.

Oh, here is a good one. They never ceded ownership of the land – presumably meaning they arguably still own it and we must pay.

Oop. Here we go.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 10, 2022 9:16 am

Challenge to hold back a runaway NDIS

PETA CREDLIN

My grandmother used to say, “but for the grace of God, there go I”. And when I think of anyone dealt a challenging hand by fate, or simply doing it tough, it’s her words that come to me. I know several families where there’s a child, or a sibling, with a serious disability. Some say that they wouldn’t have it any other way, that you get what you can cope with, and that it’s ­enriched their family. Others share moments where they admit to feelings of fatigue at a life sentence of constant care-giving, endless stress, and often huge ­financial sacrifice that they fear will wreck their marriage and unfairly burden their other children.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme was meant to answer the prayers of these families by offering a comprehensive alternative to state government-run, institutionally delivered disability services that were often substandard, even when they were available.

That’s why, when it was first proposed under the Gillard government, the NDIS was universally supported, even though there were always going to be difficulties with eligibility and levels of service. It’s worth remembering, too, that at the time Julia Gillard was trying to get the NDIS over the line, her predecessor, Kevin Rudd, was hunting her down so she needed a big “win” to hold him off. She secured the NDIS, but to sign up the states, the very concessions she made in terms of governance and funding have been its Achilles’ heel. And as history shows, Rudd returned to the prime ministership anyway.

Pre-NDIS, the states had spent about $7bn a year on disability services. Getting the states and territories to “pool” their existing disability funding, along with extra money from the commonwealth, meant giving control of the scheme to an independent agency answerable to a federal-state ministerial council.

With Canberra’s money, the scheme was originally supposed to cost $14bn a year and cover some 420,000 people. Once up and running, understandably, and predictably, more people applied and its scope started to expand. There are now more than half a million participants costing $33bn, and that’s forecast to rise to 860,000 costing $60bn by the end of the decade. The NDIS already costs more than Medicare, despite Medicare servicing 25 million. It is now growing at 14 per cent a year, meaning that along with interest payments on commonwealth debt, the NDIS is the federal government’s fastest-growing item of expenditure and tracking towards $100bn annually within 10 years.

Last year before the election, Bill Shorten said: “You can’t move around the corridors of power … without tripping over a Coalition minister whispering the scheme is unsustainable” but, he declared, “that is a lie”. Now that he’s the minister, he admits there’s a problem, explaining last week that part of the cost blowout is rapidly rising numbers of children getting NDIS support for developmental delay. Remarkably, one in 11 – or nearly 10 per cent – of all boys aged five, six and seven are now NDIS participants. If access to physiotherapy, speech therapy, music therapy and other NDIS remedies is helping to prevent this massive cohort from becoming dysfunctional adults, it would indeed be the investment that pays for itself that the NDIS was always touted to be. If, on the other hand, it’s catering largely to parent anxiety, it’s another example of over-servicing at taxpayer expense.

Once people have got themselves on the NDIS, the funding they’re allocated can be used to cover almost anything that could plausibly lead to a better life, including modifications to homes or vehicles, training to enable a person with disabilities to enter the workforce, therapy to help overcome or minimise disabilities, and assistance with daily living such as cleaning and outings. Participants can elect to self-manage their funding, or have it managed by a parent or nominee (including a commercial agent); or run by an NDIS case manager.

Psychiatrist Dr Tanveer Ahmed says some of the key messages at an NDIA meeting last week were that the NDIS… is “highly subjective” and “often people make enough noise they get more”. “So, there are certain groups that aren’t actually getting what they need and Shorten’s eluded to More
The issue is what’s reasonable and what’s not; and this can seem very different to a policy-maker than to a parent. A recent Herald-Sun article based on exchanges from an NDIS parents’ chatroom claimed that the scheme could cover “dog washes, electric toothbrushes, iPads … personal training sessions and sex workers”.

And even where the services provided are plainly reasonable, certainly potentially beneficial, and arguably necessary, the amounts can be massive. For instance, a cameo published by the Summer Foundation, a disability support group, as a guide to what the NDIS might typically provide as “reasonable and necessary supports” – in this case for a younger person with “complex needs” to live in the community – came to $351,000 a year, covering professionals’ fees for “social skills development”, “assistance with decision-making”, “assistance with housecleaning and other household activities”, and “assistance to access community for study, social and recreational activities”. Other cameos offered $170,000, $254,000, $365,000 and $185,000 for individuals, with costs expected to increase substantially every year.

As always, with very large programs where government provides the money, but private entities provide the services, there’s potential for over-servicing, profiteering and price gouging. And even outright fraud, which one crime specialist says could be up to $6bn a year. Still, the alternative is government service delivery – an improved version, if you like, of the old status quo – which is what drove parent lobbies to campaign for years for the NDIS in the first place.

Costs can hardly keep increasing at their current rate, but neither could the system realistically revert to the old approach. Not unreasonably, Shorten has commissioned an inquiry to be led by Bruce Bonyhady, a respected businessman, disability activist and one of the scheme’s original architects. The challenge here will be meaningful reform, and for disability activists to understand as much as there is public goodwill for the NDIS, it isn’t bottomless.

Psychiatrist Dr Tanveer Ahmed says he thinks the NDIS is a “luxurious scheme” as it is financially uncapped and… lacks transparency and accountability. “Even beyond that – one of its express aims launched by Julia Gillard’s government was that it would move the disabled into work, it has More
Before he entered parliament, the Labor MP for Parramatta and former economist Andrew Charlton identified governance as the NDIS’s key failing. And I agree. It’s a program, he said, “controlled by an agency that administers itself, designs much of its own policy, sets its own budget without serious central agency oversight … and operates with an extraordinary level of independence from the elected government and responsible minister”. This “design flaw”, he says, “is becoming one of the most serious governance failures in Australian politics”.

The Bonyhady study will need the wisdom of Solomon to reconcile the potentially limitless aspirations of the disability sector with the funding constraints of government budgets under pressure. Right now, the NDIS is a demand-driven, uncapped expend­iture program, catering for needs that are deeply felt, intensely personal and capable of almost endless expansion, where the people allocating the money are not responsible for raising it, and state governments whose contributions are capped have a vested interest in making funding issues the commonwealth’s fault.

An NDIS that remains out-of-control would be a good idea gone badly wrong. To make it sustainable, both sides of politics, and all levels of government, must work together. Still, if anyone can pull off this contemporary political miracle, it’s Shorten and Bonyhady, given that neither could be accused of bad faith given their history with its creation.

Oz, with comments going mad

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 9:20 am

Oz, with comments going mad

Once every couple of months it seems there is something in the Paywallian that I would really like to read – and often it is the content their j’ism did not create.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 9:24 am

Calli:

I have fought the “culture wars” on the few fronts available to me – through my family and my church and at any of the little friendship groups to which I belong. Every single one is infested with “progressives” who are proud of the fact and strident in their opinions.

Too often the Right says to win, we need to separate from the Left and form our own enclave.
We continue to forget we did just that when the US was settled, and built the nation that became the arsenal of freedom while throwing off the yoke of Religious tyranny in Europe.
But we forgot the enemy – all those who believe in the Collective over the Individual – will continue to chase us because there is no greater victory over the beast by killing the bear in its lair with its cubs.
Now we want to surrender the battlefield to the bear in the US by abandoning half of it to the Socialist enemy – even as it builds and reinforces its bridgeheads in our Universities and schools.
The current battlefield is in education and we are already losing.
But the worst isn’t that we are losing the culture wars, it is that we are paying the enemy to maintain the bridgeheads while pauperising and neglecting our own citizens.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 10, 2022 9:25 am

Oh, here is a good one. They never ceded ownership of the land – presumably meaning they arguably still own it and we must pay.

It’s an interesting argument. It was an article of faith amongst the older generation that Aborigines were the guardians of the land, they were “of” the land, but they didn’t own the land. How can you have sovereignty over something you profess not to own?

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
November 10, 2022 9:29 am

Self serving tripe from Credlin, covering for the laziness and ineptitude of the SFLs in 2012-13. It was deisgned to enrich service providers (try to become one and you’ll fail because of the bureaucratic regulations) and nothing else. Giving it back to the designer, Shorten, to fix? With all those maaaates service providers to keep happy? It’s an employment scheme for the imported population.

mc
mc
November 10, 2022 9:35 am

In a meeting and they are doing the ‘acknowledgement’ thing.

Was on commonwealth gov online meeting where they did this and asked that all participants added their own acknowledgment from their region in the text/comments. No one did except me, I wrote “God save the King!”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 10, 2022 9:48 am

This is What America voted for!

Brían Nguyen wins ‘Miss Greater Derry’ beauty pageant, which provides scholarships to ‘young women’

As Twitchy reported, Admiral Rachel Levine was named to USA Today’s list of “Women of the Year” this spring. This summer, the University of Pennsylvania nominated swimmer Lia Thomas as their NCAA woman of the year. It was a good year to be a biological male competing against biological women for top honors.

This is on a lesser scale, but now we’ve learned that Brían Nguyen has been named “Miss Greater Derry” in New Hampshire; the competition is held under the “Miss America” umbrella.

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok

A biological male won “Miss Greater Derry” which is a beauty pageant in New Hampshire under the “Miss America” organization.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 9:49 am

Lol! I’m going to have fun with that one, mc!

Took mum to the specialist yesterday – on the glass door was one of those idiotic “acknowledgements”.

I presume our first/second/third nations inhabitants were pragmatic oncology practitioners – bop ‘em and leave ‘em.

Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 9:51 am

Shy Tedsays:
November 10, 2022 at 9:29 am
Self serving tripe from Credlin, covering for the laziness and ineptitude of the SFLs in 2012-13. It was deisgned to enrich service providers (try to become one and you’ll fail because of the bureaucratic regulations) and nothing else. Giving it back to the designer, Shorten, to fix? With all those maaaates service providers to keep happy? It’s an employment scheme for the imported population.

The NDIS is not an Insurance Scheme as it is not funded. It is a scheme for robbing Peter to Paul. And as for getting people on it back to work………………Don’t make me larf’. It is a Black Hole with the Starship Non-Enterprise (Australia) being dragged by gravity (and the Gravy Train) right into it to never get out again.

Bill ‘Man Tits’ Shorten on Brains is the last person you should have as the Minister to oversee it.

This is where, with all Guv’ment Programmes, a Razor Gang is needed and one with plenty of razors.

Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 9:52 am

Robbing Peter to pay Paul I should have typed……………………………..

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 9:53 am

added their own acknowledgment

I really would like ask them exactly what acknowledgement entail? What is the difference between what an acknowledging person and a non-acknowledging person do. But I don’t think they would have an answer. It is something they have never considered. They just know it is a ritual you through where performing the ritual is more important than meaning it.

Notice how overwhelmingly these things come from above – they are not asked for from lower levels, but commanded (or that encouragement which is effectively the same thing) from on high for types of woke cred and then channelled through layers of management – each one mimicking their boss – all the way down.

Honestly, I have never seen a person make any decision because of ‘traditional owners’. No one decides not to throw a wrapper on the ground out of respect for traditional owners, only because it makes a mess and even that probably goes back to their parents training them.

How many people consult with elders to decide if they can have a pool in their backyard. Or decide not to buy or build on a piece of land newly cleared for residential construction.

And this includes the CEO’s who started pushing the ‘acknowledgement’ guff in their businesses and pushed it onto everyone else.

Cassie of Sydney
November 10, 2022 9:53 am

“The current battlefield is in education and we are already losing.
But the worst isn’t that we are losing the culture wars, it is that we are paying the enemy to maintain the bridgeheads while pauperising and neglecting our own citizens.”

We’re not losing, we’ve lost.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 10, 2022 9:57 am

Our future, well really no future…………………………………

https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/11/09/at-1230-a-m-this-morning-alberta-got-just-3-megawatts-out-of-its-3076-megawatts-of-wind-again/

Again and again and again, Alberta’s wind power totally collapses to effectively zero. It got really low at supper on Tuesday, dropping to around 15 megawatts, which is pretty much nothing since their nameplate capacity has grown, again, now to 3,076 megawatts.

But by 12:30 a.m., it dropped to just 3 megawatts. That’s out of hundreds of turbines costing many billions of dollars.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 9:57 am

each one mimicking their boss – all the way down.

Here is an image.

You are familiar with the expression about how “it’s turtles all the way down”.

Sometimes it seems it is more turtles on their backs all the way down.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 10, 2022 9:57 am

Took mum to the specialist yesterday – on the glass door was one of those idiotic “acknowledgements”

A certain local medical centre has Kevin Rudd’s apology to the Stolen Generation on the wall. Certain of the local Indigenous are happily calculating the size of the compensation packages they will receive, despite the fact that they weren’t born until well after the removals ceased.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 10, 2022 10:01 am

We are in Vicksberg, a major Civil War town on the Mississippi where a fierce battle and seige took place over 47 days of bombardment on both sides. Hairy is currently touring the various sites, while I have chickened out to rest in accommodation deliberately chosen not to be boutique, but mainstream hotelia with all mod cons and two Queen beds, one each. Our recent boutique mansion stay had a magnificent river view and was genuinely antibellum and delightful, but the antique bed nearly did me in. It was a massive carved Victorian piece with an elaborately worked half canopy from which originally hung mosquito netting as protection from Yellow Fever. The canopy was lined with pleated silk drawn into a middle rosette as up you gazed at it, although attention was soon directed to the fact that underneath you the bed’s sprung base was sagging in the middle. To make it worse the mattress was dense body-hugging foam that also sank, and sank again, tumbling me into the heavier Hairy all night. On the second night I fixed it with Panama-influenced engineering – I built up the slope on my side with pillows – but it was still not ideal – although Hairy said it allowed him the unimpeded sleep of the just following his TV bout with the mid-terms.

The Union win here in Vicksberg permitted troops to make a swift move down river to Natchez, where yesterday we toured the house that the General in command comandeered for his headquarters due to its situation on the riverside where the original French fort had been located. As their menfolk had all moved North to continue with business ventures, this handsome General apparently was overtaken by Southern female charms and let the two resident ladies stay in half of the second floor, where his bedroom was also located. He moved all of the precious furniture and furnishings from the ground floor reception rooms and theatrical hallway into storage on the third floor. That house is now run by Mississippi Chapter of The Daughters of the American Revolution, an elite social group. I rather suspect that the plumply fussy Southern lady of a certain age with the Mint Julip drawl leading the tour was one of them.

Our breakfast this morning, despatched by car as we were to take it there by our 2-day boutique stay schedule, was held in a grand old Plantation House two miles away, and while extremely glamorous it lacked yesterday’s sense of imminent danger. The staff were all black and attentive and it did all seem a little bit Scarlett O’Hara, whose luck with Union soliders was a little less convivial than the tale we were told of at yesterday’s mansion. One could imagine in this grand Plantation home Rhett Butler in his antibellum cynicism emerging to decry the gentlemen going to war, for these two historic towns fostered entrepreneurial men like Rhett. In Natchez as in the sophisticated fort town of Vicksberg, there was a strong contingent who at first wanted to remain within the Union for reasons of commerce.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 10:02 am

We’re not losing, we’ve lost.

Not while you and I are still standing, Cassie! 🙂

Our Buffalo River moment hadn’t quite arrived yet. Pray it never does.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 10, 2022 10:02 am

One for you Cassie

This is the most important thread you can read following what happened last night

I’m not saying you have to agree with it, but there’s a lot of wisdom here:

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 10:03 am

Flyingkud:

Challenge to hold back a runaway NDIS. It’s a good idea gone badly wrong and as much as there is public goodwill for the NDIS, it isn’t bottomless.

It was NEVER a good idea.
Fabian Socialists love this shit – it’s designed to appeal the the basest instincts of some, while hiding under a cloak of responsibility and care for the disadvantaged.
It was never supposed to be anything more than a straw for the camel but that poor beast is already wobbling under the load it is carrying.
There are now so many people exercising their ‘right’ to offload their responsibilities onto the camel there is no way of getting the load lightened. We either shoot the camel and make everyone carry their own load now. Or we wait until it dies at the most inopportune moment.
That’s not the society we want, but it will end up as the society we get.

rosie
rosie
November 10, 2022 10:18 am

With the Republicans controlling the Reps is Biden a lame duck president or not?

Roger
Roger
November 10, 2022 10:20 am

Sitting idly by while a dictatorship rapidly builds up its military only leads to one outcome.

You must have missed a few key recent strategic and military developments designed to counter China’s expanion. Nobody is sitting idly by.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 10, 2022 10:24 am

Slavery. There are two ‘Civils’ on this tourist trail, both featuring this stain on human history. The Civil War, and Civil Rights. Both have detailed itineraries and Visitor centres and museums now to visit, for both Natchez and Vickberg have been important in these arenas, however the Civil War was more fought with intensity and bloodshed in Vickberg, while Natchez was the most important town in the South for the development of the Civil Rights movement amongst coloured people, Negros,blacks or African-Americans, as the terminology changed thus. 1964 and 1965 in Natchez saw car bombings, deaths, injuries and major demonstrations by black leaders for Civil Rights, culminating in the arrest and detainment in disgraceful conditions of 300 marchers under KKK surveillance. All of this is now memorialised in sites and historical signage and information. It was a time for people to stand up and be counted. A very specific history though in a specific time and place.

I thought back to 1964 in Sydney when I joined a demonstration outside the US Embassy in Sydney in support of the Civil Rights Act. I was young and naive but I’d studied the Civil War and I still think slavery was at its heart, although other issues were clearly contributory. And freedom still means the same thing that it ever did.

Nachez also memorialises one of the major fires of the US, in 1940 in a Dance Hall full of young black revellers with a famous jazz band playing. Over 250 revellers and the band all perished in that fire in a shack of a hall with only one exit. This tragedy is said to have also changed the town and changed attitudes. Whether it was arson or not is unknown.

Roger
Roger
November 10, 2022 10:25 am

With the Republicans controlling the Reps is Biden a lame duck president or not?

He can still wield his veto pen.

Roger
Roger
November 10, 2022 10:29 am

There was a somewhat plausible theory doing the rounds before the mid-terms that Biden would be “retired” before 2024, thereby giving Harris the mantle of first woman POTUS, but giving way to Newsom to be the actual candidate.

Biden’s bacon may have just been saved.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 10, 2022 10:33 am

It’s almost as though if he was given an appropriate sentence in the first place, a lot of the subsequent crimes would have been deterred or impossible.”Dot, have a look at the ending lines of Ghosts of the civil dead, only 2 minutes but Ive come to the conclusion this is very much where we are.

A small % of the population are capable of causing massive misery.
Yet some of them seem to be able to leave and reoffend quite caually.

1:21:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6DpQU5rXDU

rosie
rosie
November 10, 2022 10:34 am

Veto pens are fine.
My buddy in the US likes nothing more that a stymied government.

Roger
Roger
November 10, 2022 10:36 am

You must have a sticky t on your laptop, Lizzie.

The t in Natchez has regularly dropped out in your posts.

I have the same trouble with some letters.

Roger
Roger
November 10, 2022 10:38 am

Veto pens are fine.
My buddy in the US likes nothing more that a stymied government.

That surely depends on who’s wielding the pen and why.

Biden had already promised to block any “red wave” legislative agenda with it.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 10, 2022 10:39 am

Wordle for wed 9th november 2022 is “unite”.
I’m sure it’s just a randomly generated co-inki-dink.

Speedbox
November 10, 2022 10:42 am

Roger says:
November 10, 2022 at 10:29 am
There was a somewhat plausible theory doing the rounds before the mid-terms that Biden would be “retired” before 2024, thereby giving Harris the mantle of first woman POTUS

I was one of those who thought Biden would be replaced by Harris mid-term.

It was inconceivable to me that Biden could last the full four years and couldn’t carry into a second term. I didn’t count on Harris being soooo unpopular that she was electoral poison and, the puppeteers controlling Biden would be so deeply entrenched.

But yes, he will probably see out this term. Goodness knows what will happen in 2024.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 10, 2022 10:42 am
Zipster
November 10, 2022 10:43 am

You must have missed a few key recent strategic and military developments designed to counter China’s expanion. Nobody is sitting idly by.

china took hong kong breaching its agreements, nothing was done. china unleashed a bioweapon, not only was nothing done it was all suppressed. china has been stealing technology and dramatically building up its forces including nuclear for years.

china is now threatening to take taiwan by force. I don’t believe the west is capable of prosecuting any form of protracted conventional war, as it stupidly outsourced its industrial base to china.

the allied nations did not want a war with germany. hitler broke the Versailles agreement nothing was done about it. hitler annexed austria and took part of czechoslovakia, the west booed and sat back. Not until Hitler took poland did uk declare war on germany and even then it did not want to wage any form of widespread war, instead relying on minor naval skirmishes, a botched invasion of Norway and hoping to contain the fighting to the WW1 fronts. Hitler then took France and the uk was basically fucked. It is only the industrial capacity of the US which saved the day.

Delta A
Delta A
November 10, 2022 10:44 am

Wordle for wed 9th november 2022 is “unite”.

Got it in three.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 10:52 am

Our Buffalo River moment

Reflecting on Melville and Coghill and famous last stands…most yoof would not know of them, nor would they understand their motivation for doing what they did.

These days “bravery” means to glue oneself to a road or throw mashed spuds at an Old Master.

It’s also an interesting contrast to our thread header painting. As the Amalekite told David, the despairing Saul couldn’t even fall on his sword properly.

calli
calli
November 10, 2022 10:56 am

Deepest blackpill thread..

I read that earlier, mole. Interesting that he thinks conservatives (and many, many Dems) want Norman Rockwell America but with Progressive trimmings like “free” love and such. No one ever imagines it can only be one or the other.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 11:05 am

Biden clearly energised by the Midterms. It’s working.

Roger
Roger
November 10, 2022 11:07 am

china took hong kong breaching its agreements, nothing was done.

Deciding that Hong Kong was not world war worthy was not an irrational position.

Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 11:07 am

Hitler then took France and the uk was basically fucked. It is only the industrial capacity of the US which saved the day.

And the Commonwealth Countries assisted as well. The British 8th Army was a Commonwealth Army in North Africa and Italy. Oh yes, and technology helped with Radar and many other inventions. And the British had great aircraft and a great Navy. Hitler was fucked when they invaded the Soviet Union to get the Oil and Wheat which they needed and never got.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 11:08 am

You can almost see the flicker of understanding in his eyes.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 11:10 am

I keep getting this notifications from YouTube – ostensibly from people whose things I watch, like the critical drinker. They ask me to ‘text them on Telegram’ and that they have something for me.

Is there some scamming thing going on?

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 11:13 am

Calli:

Rockdoc, I don’t like burning bridges. And people, when it all boils down, are far more than their politics. There’s always a possibility that one or two might change their minds when hit with life’s cluebat. It happens.
The important bit is to avoid “I told you so”. That way you’ve lost them all over again. ?

Calli: When the enemy is using those very same bridges to move across to attack you, they must be destroyed or at the very least, well guarded.
Had we destroyed or guarded the bridges into the Universities, they would not have captured the Schools and our kids.
And the “I told you so” rejoinder has a very specific function in our society – a bit like the concept of ‘shame’. It weeds out the people who want to appear as if they have undergone a social or moral transformation but really just want to be on the winning side.
Take Struth for example. He wants to be the gatekeeper because this means he controls the degree of penitence required to come to the goodies side. Which is why he will never give up his “I told you so” attitude.
Take the people who realise they’d like to be on our side in terms of the ‘Amnesty’ – they want to have their ‘provax positions’ forgiven but won’t go through the admission of guilt and the promise to examine their gullibility a bit harder. We don’t want them infesting us again. And if their ego won’t tolerate a little “I told you so” then frankly their conversion is doubtful and shallow.
Take the “Pure Bloods” – Their position is cast in concrete and takes no account of the positions the “Impure” were held in. And frankly I have a sneaky position many Pure Bloods were not forced into a position that involved any great sacrifice on their behalf. No, I don’t want to associate with this ideological position either.
My two bobs worth.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 11:14 am

Deciding that Hong Kong was not world war worthy was not an irrational position.

Which still leaves Taiwan as an open question.

Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 11:14 am

“Hello, you have reached the ‘Men’s Help Line.’ My name is Ken. How can I help you?”

“Hi Ken, I really need your advice on a serious problem. I have suspected for some time now that my wife has been cheating on me. You know, just the usual signs; the phone rings and when I answer, the caller hangs up.

Plus, she goes out with ‘the girls’ a lot. I usually try to stay awake to look out for her when she comes home, but I always fall asleep.

Anyway, last night about midnight, I woke up and she was not home. So I hid in the garage behind my boat and waited for her.

When she came home, she got out of someone’s car, buttoning her blouse, then she took her panties out of her purse and slipped them on. It was at that moment, while crouched behind the boat, that I noticed a hairline crack in the outboard motor mounting bracket.

Is that something I can weld, or do I need to replace the whole bracket?”

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