1,868 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tues 15 Nov 2022”

  1. Trump is Back

    From Armstrong Economics –

    “Donald Trump announced that he is officially running for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. The only president in American history to win re-election after a defeat was Grover Cleveland in 1892. The establishment repeatedly tried to impeach Trump to prevent him from seeking a second term, but he’s back.

    Trump wanted to keep America out of war. He threatened to leave NATO and pushed other countries to contribute their fair share. It is safe to say that Trump would likely not be sending billions to Ukraine under his America first policy that branded him as selfish. We talk about energy fears crippling the world, but America was the top producer of oil and natural gas under his presidency.

    At this point, no one can honestly say they are better off under Biden. When I attended an event at Mar-a-Lago, I was very impressed by Trump. It was the first time in my entire career that I heard a head of state concerned about the soldiers they sent off to war. He said we needed to face the fact that foreign governments have been fighting over borders in the Middle East for ages, and it was not our place to intervene. He said he never wanted to call another mother and tell her that their child had died in a pointless battle.

    He was not afraid to speak to our enemies and even became the first US president to cross the border into North Korea. Our current president can barely speak in general and has put America last. A vote for Trump was a vote against the establishment. Politicians cried that he had no experience in politics, but that is precisely why he won in 2016 — because he is not you.

    The establishment will continue its efforts to take down Trump by any means. He has too many supporters for that to be an easy feat, and he’s prepared to enter political guerilla warfare. In all honesty, by the time we reach 2024, there may not even be a presidential election. We must crash and burn first.”

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/americas-current-economy/trump-is-back/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS


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  2. When the RSL defined the dominant emotion during the decades following WWI as grief, they could have been describing my Mum’s family. It is quite a story.
    They were squatters with properties near Hay and Balranald. Seriously wealthy.
    Great Grandmother lost a husband, a brother and horrifically, seven hands; the manager of the Balranald property, two carters, bookkeeper, smith, and two hands.
    Opportunist grifters (including a future husband who got booted after farthering four children and displaying too much interest in the ‘books’) tried to convince her to sell out.
    She had no debt due to the wool boom and was never going to sell.
    She and the widow of the Balranald manager survived by judicious destocking and bringing on large numbers of recovering wounded soldiers.
    There was strong resistance especially from itinerant shearers to being bossed by a woman. The banks apparently actively plotted against them, but she survived.
    The Balranald property was eventually gifted to her Balranald partner and apparently remains in her family.
    I met her a couple of times as a very young sprog. I found her to be terrifying.


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  3. This would indicate there is some basis for people to be suspicious of a group relative to any other group in the population.

    The stats say males commit 75% of domestic violence.

    Should we therefore regard all men with suspicion?

    Yes, I know, it’s human nature. But that doesn’t mean it’s right.


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  4. Indolent:

    They decided to use CO2 as their weapon at a meeting in Vienna in the mid 1960s. This call came out during “Climategate” in 2013(?) but they’ve very successfully managed to sweep it back under the carpet. I now think that the ozone layer scare was simply a dress rehearsal for all this.

    The Ozone Layer scare was simply that – an opportunity to ramp up the fear factor in terms of “We’ll all be rooned.”
    That the refrigerant manufacturers were able to scare people and legislators into banning out of patent chemicals was just icing on the cake – and a source of funds for the End of the Worldists.
    Never let a crisis go to waste, especially if you can make a quid out of it as well.


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  5. Rogersays:
    November 18, 2022 at 10:31 am
    This would indicate there is some basis for people to be suspicious of a group relative to any other group in the population.

    The stats say males commit 75% of domestic violence.

    Should we therefore regard all men with suspicion?

    Yes, I know, it’s human nature. But that doesn’t mean it’s right.

    I was actually going to stick nearly those words as a disclaimer in.
    But was lazy.

    mea culpa…

    I will state unequivocally the biggest victims of Aboriginal (to use the group definition) crime is other Aboriginals.
    The crab in a bucket/ help yourself mentality is in some communities, crippling and its exceptional people who can escape it.


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  6. Leon L.says:
    November 18, 2022 at 10:42 am
    This is how it is done.
    Pay attention piss weak liberal party.

    House cleaning: Alberta announces health-care reform. AHS board fired, administrator appointed.

    All of these cancerous government quangos need to be abolished.
    One can only dream.

    Excellent News. And by a tough Women no less. The piss weak so called Conservatives here please take note. Otherwise, you will never ever get elected.


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  7. Google has taken over one of my computers running windows 11. It constantly changes my preferences to its own, hides pathways for me to change back to what I want, and has installed so much social media garbage as to make the moderately expensive Dell computer unusable. It’s the last Dell and Microsoft setup I”ll buy.
    My Notebook has been infected with Google media shit to such an extent that it is unusable. Even a hard reboot hasn’t worked. I have to have Google on it to download Kindle and Range trajectory stuff.
    Thanks arseholes.

    Just thought I’d get it off my chest.


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  8. “This is how it is done.
    Pay attention piss weak liberal party.”

    I think the ship has sailed as far as the Liberal Party is concerned. It is beyond redemption.


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  9. JC:

    My pal was a member of a tennis club in the Hamptons. There was a friendly doubles comp the club put on matching a regular amateur club member and a tennis pro. The deal was that the pro wouldn’t hit the ball to the regular guy. Trump was in the comp. Apparently, Trump told his sidekick pro to hit the ball to the amateur player on the other side of the net as he (Trump) wanted to win the comp. That’s how it was told to me.

    “Stories my nanna told me.”
    Would anyone here believe a damned word you ever said?


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  10. Get ready Australia, the capped price for electricity in England is AUD 55 cents per kwh.
    Now that’s more than double our current rates, get ready for a big blow to your budget.
    We are next.


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  11. I will state unequivocally the biggest victims of Aboriginal (to use the group definition) crime is other Aboriginals.

    And a “justice” system that mollycoddles young offenders does them no favours.

    I’m not in favour of incarcerating first time non-violent offenders, but whatever we’re doing atm clearly isn’t working. That indigenous communities are calling for the reintroduction of traditional law is a clear indication of that. It would be a retrograde step to go down that path, but that’s not to say we can’t learn something from it about the need for punishments that fit the crime.


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  12. Google has taken over one of my computers running windows 11. It constantly changes my preferences to its own, hides pathways for me to change back to what I want…

    You need to get the computer exorcist in.


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  13. And a “justice” system that mollycoddles young offenders does them no favours.

    A relative of mine worked in the juvenile justice system in Western Australia. Detention was no great deterrent – hot food, clean beds, hot showers, plenty of sport, you caught up with “the mob” and you had fulfilled one of the rites of passage by being there in the first place.


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  14. Many women tacitly buy into the view that they can be anything a man can be.

    Many, except when it comes to reality.
    I was stuck in traffic watching workers install a traffic calming device, male and female crew, young woman with a glue gun, guys drilling in bolts, I wandered how equitably the heavy jobs were being distributed, not very, I would hazard.


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  15. Calli:

    There were whole urban streets of men who enlisted as well as those from the bush. They wanted to stay with their mates. The phenomenon also occurred in the UK, where companies of men from the same factory would form.

    Yes – The “Pals Battalions”.
    Several instances in the UK of entire towns losing their men in one morning. Disasters for them.


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  16. Zoë Schiffer @ZoeSchiffer
    NEW: Twitter just alerted employees that effective immediately, all office buildings are temporarily closed and badge access is suspended. No details given as to why.

    We’re hearing this is because Elon Musk and his team are terrified employees are going to sabotage the company. Also, they’re still trying to figure out which Twitter workers they need to cut access for.

    Offices will reopen on November 21st. In the meantime: “Please continue to comply with company policy by refraining from discussing confidential company information on social media, with the press or elsewhere.”

    Many books will be written about this.


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  17. A relative of mine worked in the juvenile justice system in Western Australia. Detention was no great deterrent – hot food, clean beds, hot showers, plenty of sport, you caught up with “the mob”…

    I suppose breaking rocks under the hot sun would be deemed cruel and unusual punishment these days?

    But seriously…if the juvenile offender comes out of detention unreformed it’s a failure that others will pay for down the track. Where’s the justice in that?


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  18. The guy who does my PEG twice a day (whose father came to Australia as a refugee from Somalia) used to work for the Department of child protection as a case worker. We both just laugh at these juvenile justice stories on the ALPBC News each night. More of the same, nothing will change.


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  19. Top Ender

    Many men enlisted for the Great War in Australia simply because they would not see “the mother country” go to war against an aggressor state without them.

    There was also the issue that, in that era, the winner took colonial possessions from the loser. Germany already had a colonial possession in German New Guinea. Had Britain been on the losing side, at a minimum Papua would have gone to Germany. The loss of a major part of Northern Australia would also have been possible.


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  20. I suppose breaking rocks under the hot sun would be deemed cruel and unusual punishment these days?

    The latest demand, here in the Wild West, is for a juvenile detention centre in the North West – it’s “degrading” for the young ones to be flown to Perth in handcuffs, and the relatives will be able to come and visit those serving sentences.


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  21. Likely titles.
    I used to get free lunches and now I have to buy my own.
    My life was endless meetings, now I have to work.
    I used to be special now even I don’t care.


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  22. “Both said they hate the demons and also hate Trump and wouldn’t vote for him. “

    Some Qs: Why do they hate Trump? Does that mean that if Trump is on the ballot they vote D for Presidential and R down ballot? Did the Abraham Accords have not effect on their attitude to Trump?


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  23. Two pals.. Jewish, not that it matters but it does in terms of their historical voting pattern in NYC. Both “commute” between Florida, Hamptons and NYC. Both said they hate the demons and also hate Trump and wouldn’t vote for him. They would, however vote for DeSantis is a heartbeat. One of them has met DeSantis a few times and said he’s very likeable but appears to be quite introverted in person. He reckons DeSantis would be much more policy focused than Trump too.

    If the Republican primary ever gets to a debate, Trump is going to take DeSantis over his knee like a naughty schoolboy.


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  24. My family has has one experience of restorative justice after an aggravated burglary, it takes a brazen certain something to enter occupied homes .
    Refused to attend the miserable thing, as it was a joke.
    After a burglary spree, in which other homes were robbed,a written off car, not a single item taken returned including missals and baby’s Christmas presents ?
    Yeah nah.


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  25. I was stuck in traffic watching workers install a traffic calming device

    Did you run them over? Stuck in traffic by the installation of something that makes you get stuck in traffic. These things are such a freaking pain in the arse. On a long, straight suburban street near where I live – which already has multiple large speed bumps that make it impossible to hoon down – the council has just installed a bunch of those concrete kerb thingies that obstruct half of the road at various points, meaning you have to stop if there are cars travelling in the opposite direction to let them pass before steering around the stupid things. Totally unnecessary. Will probably cause more accidents and traffic problems. The council members who voted to install them should have to remove them. With their teeth.


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  26. Dover, could you ask monty to do a special post on what he thinks the world would look politically and economically like after leftists like him get all their wishes? That’s assuming they have a somewhat coherent worldview, of course.

    Don’t threaten me with a good time.


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  27. Dover, could you ask monty to do a special post on what he thinks the world would look politically and economically like after leftists like him get all their wishes?

    Leftist utopias always end up with a nomenklatura at the top, gulags at the bottom and a lot of misery in between.

    If you’re lucky.

    End of story.


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  28. Oh noes! Could Covid ruin Christmas??!1

    They just can’t let go. The ABC is a jilted lover. Dumped by a virus.

    I’m sure they are just doing what they are told. Vaccine passports forever:

    “We support continued international dialogue and collaboration on the establishment of trusted global digital health networks as part of the efforts to strengthen prevention and response to future pandemics, that should capitalize and build on the success of the existing standards and digital COVID-19 certificates.

    “We acknowledge the importance of shared technical standards and verification methods, under the framework of the IHR (2005), to facilitate seamless international travel, interoperability, and recognizing digital solutions and non-digital solutions, including proof of vaccinations.”



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  29. “girls dominated the awards 3/1- I’d have a hard count over the programme, but that would be obsessive. In amongst bucking that imbalance, there were some revealing blips- fer instance, boys got every instrumental music award and girls got every music subject gong- and the boys came out of the doldrums to be more or less par at yr 11-12 and ATAR. Dux was girl, boy runner up.”

    Had almost the same thing at my youngest sons Y12 last year at Wodonga Catholic College.


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  30. Dover, could you ask monty to do a special post on what he thinks the world would look politically and economically like after leftists like him get all their wishes? That’s assuming they have a somewhat coherent worldview, of course.

    Based on a recent post, anyone who he disagreed with, wouldn’t be heard from again. Apparently he’s sick of dealing with them.

    What that exactly translates to in real terms, I’m not sure. I guess he could start with a plan to send them all to Madagascar, and progress from there.


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  31. Having lived in Melbournibad and Perth, one thing Melbournibad does better is quiet residential streets. I’m sure it uses more land for roads and it’s busy streets are busier but once you get off them there are plenty of great streets to live on. I don’t do much driving any more but was coming down a main linking road in an adjoining suburb to find the council ( City of Subiaco unsurprisingly – ask IT) had put a series a speed humps down the road. If you are not meant to travel at 50kph (!) down that road you might as well give up. Which I’m sure is the goal.


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  32. Zipstersays:
    November 18, 2022 at 10:15 am

    Very well said, Zippy.

    And sadly, some Cats seem to be suffering sense-of-humour deprivation (not surprising considering the abuses we have suffered during the Covid scam.)

    I’m sure much of the so called ‘misogyny’ on this site is just good old fashioned teasing. And while the Kittehs keep biting, the baiting will continue.

    We have enough to genuinely be angry and upset about. Save the rancour for those who deserve it, and enjoy the laughs from the comedians.


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  33. My comment relates to the leafier parts of both cities. I’m pleased to say I have absolutely no idea what happens in outer suburban areas. Like mUnty, I am upper middle class.


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  34. HB
    there was a main roads lady on 6pr the other day talking about the speed humps in Subi (and more planned elsewhere)… she was using terms like “pedestrian enablement” and “place activation” until Ollie called her out and she admitted “yes, its to discourage people driving.”


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  35. Many women tacitly buy into the view that they can be anything a man can be. Well this “equality” is an evolutionary marxist fantasy.

    Women can certainly be better than Zippy, a throwback to Neanderthal times.


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  36. We did used to go to Joondalup, Middle Swan and Mandurah although that was only to play golf before the urban sprawl and traffic made the whole thing a rather unpleasant experience.


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  37. City of Subiaco could give the worst of the Melbournibad councils a run for their money. Between them and the Rokeby Rd landlords they have nearly finished stuffing the suburb.


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  38. I’m sure much of the so called ‘misogyny’ on this site is just good old fashioned teasing. And while the Kittehs keep biting, the baiting will continue.

    We have enough to genuinely be angry and upset about. Save the rancour for those who deserve it, and enjoy the laughs from the comedians.

    Shut up ladies and know your place, argues Delta A.


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  39. Lysander – before my stroke I used to just ride up to Subi on my push bike. Parking isn’t as bad as people say it is. I used to have a couple of favourite rooftops that never let me down.


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  40. The UK’s new electricity price “cap” has already been mentioned upthread.

    From what I can gather it will see average household bills rise to AUS$4500.

    Now the Chancellor’s overnight Autumn Statement will raise the UK’s tax burden to its highest levels since post-war austerity.

    All this is largely attributable to the Tory government’s climate and covid policies.

    No wonder the Tories are on the nose. But would Labour have done things any differently?


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  41. I married the Beloved for his tallness (amongst other things). He doesn’t need a ladder to change light bulbs. And…he can replace the taps with ease on account of his mighty biceps and nifty spanner-fu.

    You know the story of the other night and suspected aggravated burglary (by broken mirror as it turned out). He’s as brave as all get out but I do wish he’d put his trousers on prior to doing battle. The spectacle was most unseemly. 😀


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  42. Latin kings:

    Please decipher.

    EDVVARD: VI: D: G: AGL: FRA: Z: HIBER: REX: tun :, IhS: AVTE: TRAnCI: PER: MEDIV: ILLOR: IBAT: tun :

    Edward 6, by the grace of God, England, France, ? Ireland, our King;

    In the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???

    It’s on a very expensive gold sovereign (45k roughly) from his reign…and no I can’t afford it right now!


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  43. I have no idea why people are bellyaching about women post-mid terms. Married men and women voted overwhelming for R, single men voted only moderately for R, while single women voted overwhelmingly for D. Given the differential between single and married , maybe the problem isn’t ‘women’ so much as the married v single. And maybe the problem there is not so much singles per se, but the proportion of them in society, the social and institutional factors that delay marriage (mass university education, extended adolescence) or even make marriage appear unattractive, and so on. If you want to reverse this slide you’re going to have to make marriage attractive again, at least more attractive than being single.

    I’ve also asked before, re married m/f v single m/f, what were the actual numbers that voted in these mid-terms for these categories compared with 2018 or 2020 ? I haven’t seen them here or anywhere else.


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  44. Mansplaining from the fat fascist fuckwit.

    Cassie, genuine apologies if I upset you with my TE Lawrence quote this morning. It was meant in jest and I have always thought that it pretty much condemned both (all) genders equally.


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  45. And sadly, some Cats seem to be suffering sense-of-humour deprivation (not surprising considering the abuses we have suffered during the Covid scam.)

    Plus the Left are stealing elections with impunity, the Liberals are now full-on lefty, GPs have turned into scared robots, energy prices are through the roof because of political lies, and the police and courts have turned into the Stazi seemingly overnight. I’m sure there’re a few other things too.

    Really quite amazing how fast the decline has been. Damn straight we’re suffering sense-of-humour deprivation. Even comedy itself has died horribly under the assault of woke.

    I increasingly find just talking with people is hazardous, since there’s so much fear. Say one wrong thing and you’re cut out of the family, lose friends, lose your job, get fined and arrested and even endanger others by association. It’s getting worse and worse.


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  46. We are back home. Washing machine is now going full pelt on the sheets and towels of visitors while we were away. Eldest son has been minding the cat and his family all lobbed in at weekends. I’d say do your own sheets except I wanted them there to keep him company and such back-breaking work as sticking things into a washer and dryer and pressing a few buttons is a bit beyond some of them; might have put them off coming.

    Some washing is a small price to pay for one very fit and happy puss-cat. 🙂


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  47. After Subi oval was knocked down, and it was the ONLY reason for anyone going to Subi, I ended up sitting on the gubberment’s Subi East Improvement Group.

    After a few months (!!!) of meeting we finally got some designs that were all based on recognising historical ancestral indigeneity in the area – nothing was really there to actually rejuvenate the dilapidated joint. It was all Whadjuk signs, postages, art, walks, etc… there were a couple of fairly “stylish” medium high rise buildings there for the well-to-do… (like HB eh??? LOL!!!) but not a lot.

    When I got my chance to speak, I said “its great that we’re recognising indigenous heritage all across Subi and this is a good start to reconciliation (not my opinion but a preface to next statement)” and continued: “a real start to reconciliation would be shipping in some indigenous peoples from Northam and Kelmscott to live in discounted units in these medium rise developments.”

    I’ve never encountered such an awkward ensuing silence in my life.


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  48. I have no idea why people are bellyaching about women post-mid terms. Married men and women voted overwhelming for R, single men voted only moderately for R, while single women voted overwhelmingly for D. Given the differential between single and married , maybe the problem isn’t ‘women’ so much as the married v single. And maybe the problem there is not so much singles per se, but the proportion of them in society, the social and institutional factors that delay marriage (mass university education, extended adolescence) or even make marriage appear unattractive, and so on. If you want to reverse this slide you’re going to have to make marriage attractive again, at least more attractive than being single.

    One word: Dobbs.

    I’ve also asked before, re married m/f v single m/f, what were the actual numbers that voted in these mid-terms for these categories compared with 2018 or 2020 ? I haven’t seen them here or anywhere else.

    2022:
    Married men 30%
    Married women 30%
    Unmarried men 16%
    Unmarried women 23%

    2020:
    Married men 30%
    Married women 26%
    Unmarried men 20%
    Unmarried women 23%

    2018
    Married men 30%
    Married women 29%
    Unmarried men 18%
    Unmarried women 23%

    So no difference really, especially from the previous mid-terms.


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  49. Cassie of Sydneysays:
    November 18, 2022 at 12:14 pm
    “Shut up ladies and know your place, argues Delta A.”

    Mansplaining from the fat fascist fuckwit.

    Well used, alliteration is so powerful. More please.


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  50. Subi still has some (houso?) housing up near Kings Park Road. They add a bit to much colour for the local residents from time to time. There were a couple of beggars there for a while but I expect it was slim pickings and they moved on. Haven’t been up towards the old PMH site but I expect it is just West Perth creeping over the hill. Land values make it inevitable really.


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  51. Nope, if Dobbs was it you wouldn’t have lost congressional seats in NY and CA.

    NY and CA are not uniformly blue. There are big red pockets. Try again.

    I want the raw numbers.

    I am quoting exit polls, which are the best that can be done for obvious reasons.


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  52. Frankly, if you’re handwringing about why Republicans are currently on the nose with unmarried women and you refuse to countenance Dobbs having anything to do with it, you’re going to argue yourself into a rhetorical corner as you turn your face from the elephant in the room. It’s painfully obvious.


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  53. Hairy and I were tired when we boarded business class for the flight home. Our seats weren’t together, due to the fact that a ‘pilot seat’ (we’ve never come across this before) was located in the adjacent carel, over the aisle, that was supposed to be mine, which should never have been allocated. The airline was adamant that the allocated relief pilot seat was sacrosanct and couldn’t be changed due to emergency regulations. I ended up in the sleeping next to the pilot in the adjoining carel! When my tray table got stuck after the first meal, the attendants couldn’t get it back into its slot. After several goes, the pilot, who had come round to my aisle offer his special skills, had given up on it and left for the flight deck. He can’t fix that, so he’s gone off now to fly the plane, says Hairy dryly.

    It took an attendant, a wiry little chap from economy, called up to apply his specialist knowledge and skills – called brute force – to bash the table into its original slide and get it back into its slot. It stopped misbehaving after that.


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  54. Alejandra Caraballo @Esqueer_
    I don’t think Twitter will last through the weekend. Twitter is restricting employee access to all its buildings through the weekend with no reason given. The entire android team resigned. The world cup,the largest sporting event in the world, starts this weekend.



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  55. I ended up sitting on the gubberment’s Subi East Improvement Group

    Landcorp has used that East Perth/Subi Centro model a bit. Both of those worked well. Down on the Scarborough beachfront they decimated a number of businesses and see they are getting into trouble in a number of places around the city.


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  56. Alex Heath @alexeheath
    Am hearing the number of Twitter resignations today is likely over 1,000, though unclear as not all are posting their decision.

    Some teams, such as the engineering team that manages Twitter’s core system libraries, are completely gone now.

    Twitter had under 3,000 employees before today.

    Dammit, I should have taken that bet with Dot.


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  57. a real start to reconciliation would be shipping in some indigenous peoples from Northam

    Members of two certain families from Northam – the members of who have been at feud since the late 1960’s – shipped in, would display a commitment to reconciliation.


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  58. I have no idea why people are bellyaching about women post-mid terms.

    Yep, many of the elections were stolen. Doesn’t matter how people vote. Arizona is the most glaring example.


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  59. It’s painfully obvious.

    No Monty. The shift has been going on since 2008 and took off in 2013.

    The answer is social media. An echo chamber of young women hypersensitive to peer group pressure. Of social media is totally controlled by the green-progressive Left, as we’ve been seeing with the Twitter saga. So the answer is not Dobbs, it leftist propaganda. Bad schooling, which is also now totally controlled by the progressives, probably strongly contributes also.

    But don’t let empirical data change your mind, it’s not as if the Left ever use logic or reason.


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  60. I do wish he’d put his trousers on prior to doing battle.

    Nope, full marks to him for either:
    a) scaring the intruder off before battle was joined; or
    b) making the intruder laugh so much he collapses and can be swept out of the house.


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  61. Old and busted: Trucks of peace.

    New and Hot: Spearing’s of peace.

    Zachary Rolfe should face Aboriginal traditional payback, Kumanjayi Walker inquest told
    Indigenous police officer tells Northern Territory inquest that the concept of payback is based on peacemaking not revenge

    ..
    A Northern Territory police officer who shot dead an Indigenous teenager should face traditional payback to help restore harmony in his outback community, an inquest has been told.

    ..

    Holy shit, just read this line, its seems the coroner is an ace away from saying “regrettably” to the idea

    The counsel assisting the inquest, Peggy Dwyer, said the Yuendumu community had told the coroner that “payback would involve spearing” Rolfe.
    “In this case where the community are aggrieved understandably by Kumanjayi’s death and Const Rolfe causing death this court can’t condone grievous bodily harm to be committed against the constable,” Dwyer said on Thursday.


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  62. Indigenous police officer tells Northern Territory inquest that the concept of payback is based on peacemaking not revenge

    Pulling the legs of gullible whitefellas is considered fine sport among the indigenous….


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  63. Descendants of the Somme should start a club.
    Luck runs strong in those genes.

    Not necessarily. My grandfather was still in utero when his father joined up. They never met.

    Obviously though, lady luck was still on my side…in a fashion.


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  64. I increasingly find just talking with people is hazardous, since there’s so much fear. Say one wrong thing and you’re cut out of the family, lose friends, lose your job, get fined and arrested and even endanger others by association. It’s getting worse and worse.

    During the fracas about our seat numbers with both of us saying why can’t the pilot seat be changed to the one next to it, so I can have my allocated seat and reach across the aisle to Hairy, it took a while for me to get my new allocated carel and get organised in it. As I was bustling around, a couple across the aisle on my side were settling in together over the welcome drink. They told the serving attendant they were off to a wedding in Sydney. How nice, I said to them and we started chatting as I clicked my belt in and started my drink too. Where is it? I asked. Turns out it is going to be in Watson’s Bay near us, so we got friendlier, about weddings and travel.

    This is when things went pear-shaped, Bruce. They were both senior academics, and maybe I shouln’t have done it but couldn’t resist, still feeling like a sparr after the seat fracas. We finished our road trip coming back down the West coast of Florida, I recounted to their queries, and I must say we were both very impressed indeed with Florida. Red rag to a bull. Sour faces opposite, and the query what about the cyclone, surely the damage was still very bad? Nope, all cleared up, and back to business I said. To counter this optimism, the male, wearing a trendy black mask as was his wife (I should have known, noone else on this whole section of the plane was doing this) said to me as a cap to my optimism about Florida that it is only going to get worse for Florida due to climate change.

    Couldn’t help myself, these people were so self-satisfied about it. I nominated myself and Hairy as scientists, said we disagreed about net zero and any climate ’emergency’, and he was off. He knew Al Gore as a friend, he said, so he condescendingly declared it was clear we were reading a different sort of science to what he was reading. His ‘science’ was obviously correct and ours wasn’t. They were both medical scientists but epidemiology can trump that for modelling, and I did let them have it, plus the IPCC selectivity, with a lot of data about that. They gave way on my expertise re tree rings, glaciers, pacific island sinking, the J curve, the normality of Australian fires and floods and the fewer hurricanes. Empiricism was not their forte. The tenre remained civilised and slowly the conversation returned to the normal upper middle class civilities that exist between travelling academics living the good life, but with a now slightly frigid edge.

    Hairy hearing on bits of this over the other side of the plane wondered later why I bothered.
    Because I am so sick of ignorant people pushing their climate cult at me, I reply.
    Time to speak up more.


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  65. Martyn Williams @martyn_williams
    North Korea appears to have launched another ICBM, according to Japanese media. The missile appears on a lofted trajectory from launch site near Pyongyang and is expected to splash down 210kms west of Hokkaido at 1120, according to Japan Coast Guard via NHK



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  66. jupessays:
    November 18, 2022 at 12:58 pm
    I have no idea why people are bellyaching about women post-mid terms.

    Yep, many of the elections were stolen. Doesn’t matter how people vote. Arizona is the most glaring example.

    m0nty=fa has still had nothing to say about the blatant DemonRat suppression of GOP voters in Arizona, particularly in Maricopa County. He seems quite relaxed when the DemonRats actually suppress GOP voters, but gets hysterical about supposed “voter suppression” when Republicans suggest voter ID should be required.


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  67. m0ntysays:
    November 18, 2022 at 1:07 pm
    Japanese TV now live reporting on an ICBM launched from North Korea, which is still airborne.

    Bit happening.

    Now, if Creepy Joe were to travel to North Korea, I’m sure he could calm things down. //sarc//


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  68. I’m pretty sure I can work out, based on who does the authoring, who is serious and who is indulging in good natured teasing.
    I got the impression Dot might have backpedalled a little on women being responsible for men dying in WWI and WWII.
    As for the other comments over the last day I didn’t see anyone much bother to respond.
    Incidentally
    I studied Australian conscription in HSC, no coverage that I can recall of the women’s groups that actively opposed conscription so that was interesting to learn.


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  69. Lizzie, you could have fast-forwarded that converstation by saying to the bloke, “Oh you’re actually a friend of Al Gore? …why aren’t you travelling on one of his aeroplanes then?”


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  70. It’s abundantly clear that, if Biden himself – flanked by HRC, his VP and the Speaker of the House – stood up in front of a million people and were recorded saying “You got us, we totally cheated in the elections; what we engaged in was criminal, illegal and entirely consistent with the allegations made against us”, the speed at which Gommers and the rest of the insufferable left would come back with a reason the group didn’t say what they clearly said or that “of course everyone knew all along, no one denied it and it was actually a good thing” would be so fast as to cast the physics Standard Model completely aside and undermine the nature of causality.


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  71. I got the impression Dot might have backpedalled a little on women being responsible for men dying in WWI and WWII.

    I implied it was a WWI thing, if at all. Not just women though. The theme was really male disposability in 20th century western nations, “to defend democracy”.

    It’s not a new trope, cf “Johnny Get Your Gun”.

    I studied Australian conscription in HSC, no coverage that I can recall of the women’s groups that actively opposed conscription so that was interesting to learn.

    Why would that be?

    Now try to Google how many women were in the white feather mob.

    No one wants to talk about it!


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  72. Dot if most white feathers were distributed anonymously by mail as I said on the last page I could be akin to Sleeping Giant email bombing, ie very few and possibly involving men as well as women.
    I read somewhere back a while while there was no formal conscription in WWI there was a lot of pressure put on by some sort of travelling military boards, I can’t find the linky atm.
    Most of what I remember was the sectarian nature of the pro and anti sides and Daniel Mannix.
    Maybe in the 1970s when the curriculum was set the women’s involvement wasn’t seen as as important as the class/religious issues.
    Having said that some members on the Catholic sides of my family did enlist, two to become whispering men, which was probably better than the two Protestants who just got to become part of the soil of Poziers.


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  73. Now try to Google how many women were in the white feather mob.

    Not involved in the initial discussion so sorry if repeating anything. I have always thought that the white feather brigade brought much undeserved shame on many people. Of my own grandfathers, one joined up because he had no job, family to support and thought that conscription was coming anyway. The other went to great lengths to tell us grandkids that he tried to sign up twice but was knocked back as an essential worker as his job as an engineer/blacksmith making bearings. The one that didn’t go was quite chuffed (I think in the 90s) to get some sort of certificate acknowledging him as an essential worker. I think it meant a lot to him.

    On my wife’s side, a decision was made for one son (her uncle) to join up and the other (her father) to stay and work on the farm. Her father did not marry for many many years and said he did not feel right stepping out with girls while other men were off fighting. He would avoid talking about the war years but his brother would openly talk about his time.

    Shame is very powerful and can be very cruel.

    …..almost literally “stories my nana told me”


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  74. m0nty=fa has still had nothing to say about the blatant DemonRat suppression of GOP voters in Arizona

    And he will to full-throatedly continue to say nothing about it.


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  75. Don’t threaten me with a good time

    mUttley should be made to compose such a thread as a condition of his remaining here (and continuing to give everyone the proverbials).

    It would a fantastical load of ahistorical horse shit bearing no resemblance to reality, even accidentally/coincidentally, as well as conveniently omitting the bits where he gets to play snitch and dob his neighbores and family (he clearly doesn’t have any friends) into the secret police.

    Although the most glaring omission (given it would shorten the narrative somewhat) would be the part where the fervent mob come for him in the first few days, given he’s so obviously a petit bourgeois capitalist oppressor of various marginalised groups.


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  76. a decision was made for one son (her uncle) to join up and the other (her father) to stay and work on the farm. Her father did not marry for many many years and said he did not feel right stepping out with girls while other men were off fighting. He would avoid talking about the war years but his brother would openly talk about his time.

    Have 2 great uncles, one went off and the younger stayed to look after the farm and also look after his brothers fiancée.

    Brother returned from the war to find the younger brother had chiselled him out of the farm and was rooting his now ex.
    Apparently he bailed them both up with a 303 and informed them he was taking off and would never see them again. And also that the only reason they were still drawing breath was because he had decided they could.

    Never married, became a very successful racehorse trainer.


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  77. Descendants of the Somme should start a club.
    Luck runs strong in those genes.

    Both my paternal grandfather (a “Tommy”) and the Beloved’s maternal grandfather served in France and returned. His paternal grandfather was Light Horse and also returned.

    No wounds, except perhaps for the mind. They were all tough men and “took no nonsense”.

    And yes, given my children’s adventures with motor vehicles and hospitals, the luck does run very strong.


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  78. Brother returned from the war to find the younger brother had chiselled him out of the farm and was rooting his now ex.
    Apparently he bailed them both up with a 303 and informed them he was taking off and would never see them again. And also that the only reason they were still drawing breath was because he had decided they could.

    Sad story that reflects poorly on both men and women. My father in law was an uncommonly decent gentleman


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  79. Descendants of the Somme should start a club.
    Luck runs strong in those genes.

    My grandfather was ‘gassed’ and suffered ‘shellshock’ in France. When he came back from the war he suffered bouts of epilepsy. My father never mentioned it but from what I gather from other family members his relationships with his children suffered enormously.

    My Mothers uncle died in France. His name is on the Stanley (Tasmania) memorial. Her father gave my mother the middle name ‘Laurence’ in remembrance of him as she was the last kid likely to be born.

    So yes they were lucky to survive but the effects of the war carried on for decades after.


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  80. Seems BAT FLU lockdowns are well behind us if the drop off in cyclists on my regular rides are anything to go by .. during the lockdown(s) I’d encounter anything up to 100 bikes to & froing along the two tracks I use .. Pre BAT FLU I could count on one hand the number of folk I’d encounter in a week and now the numbers are back down to that level .. Even “mums wiv bubs” and other walkers (never had any joggers tho) have almost disappeared ..
    Must be a hell of a lot near new bikes gathering dust in garages/sheds around here .. LOL!
    On a brighter note! .. the local outdoor 50mts pool has re-opened after 4 months refurbishing so I can walk to swim twice a week and only have to ride to Fairfield once a week instead of the 3 times I have been doing …….!


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  81. Does anyone know what the significance of Drummond Street, Carlton (circa 1976) for the Labor Party is.

    Been rummaging around the shed and found a drawing in of a building there (given to me by St Gough years ago) which is signed by Cain, Kirner and Bracks…


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  82. Bruce O’Newk:
    The US right is in the position of a man in a crowd who is getting punched in the back.
    He can’t tell who is doing it and whenever he turns to confront his assailant, he is met with a few grinning faces. The objective is to make him lose his temper and punch an obviously innocent bystander so the instigators in the crowd have a video record of his ‘unreasoned’ assault.
    We saw the technique done repeatedly in the Antifa riots – in fact one of Rittenhouses assailants was video taped running through a similar sequence when he tried to murder him. I forget which one it was – perhaps the one who copped a round to the arm. Approaches Rittenhouse who is on the ground while aiming a hand gun at him and starts to swing it to aim. Realises Rittenhouse is going to beat him to the shot and starts to do the spread arm “Surrender” pose. Rittenhouse says no way you’re going to get behind me for a sucker head shot and shoots.
    Andy Ngo got similar treatment with the milkshakes, and so did multiple coppers – buckets and bottles of water thrown at them, and the last bucket full of boiling water perhaps?
    America needs to realise it is in a civil war already and the enemy are State actors and their cronies.
    The Brown Pants Mob still haven’t been sorted out yet – yes, the claim is they are Feds, but in the Byzantine world of revolutionary militias, I’ll bet a substantial amount there are multiple cutouts between them and the FBI so that when the bloke in the crowd finally lashes out, they’ll all be members of the same Stitch and Bitch Club, on their way to a quiet weekend at a Monastery or similar.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/feds-parade-khaki-clad-patriot-front-group-harasses-locals-around-harvard-reason/?ff_source=Email&ff_medium=the-gateway-pundit&ff_campaign=dailyam&ff_content=2022-11-17
    I find it difficult to believe no one knows who these people are and the fact the authorities don’t seem to have made the connections are even more grounds for suspicions of complicity.


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  83. Winston Smith says:
    November 18, 2022 at 10:55 am

    JC:

    My pal was a member of a tennis club in the Hamptons. There was a friendly doubles comp the club put on matching a regular amateur club member and a tennis pro. The deal was that the pro wouldn’t hit the ball to the regular guy. Trump was in the comp. Apparently, Trump told his sidekick pro to hit the ball to the amateur player on the other side of the net as he (Trump) wanted to win the comp. That’s how it was told to me.

    “Stories my nanna told me.”
    Would anyone here believe a damned word you ever said?

    You don’t have to believe anything I ever said. That’s your prerogative, turtlehead. The difference between you and I is that I don’t care if you believe anything I say. You’re being spiteful that I make fun of your ridiculous fabulism and that your comments are laughably stupid. Also, I have zero regard of you. At least now, you’re hostile and no longer groveling to me, which was disgusting.


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  84. Does anyone know what the significance of Drummond Street, Carlton (circa 1976) for the Labor Party is.

    Somewhere they renovated using Union funds, when they were young and naive?


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  85. Contracts signed for $550m Australian War Memorial revamp

    Sarah Ison
    Political Reporter
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    11:00PM November 17, 2022
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    The Australian War Memorial’s $550m development project is set to begin in a matter of weeks ­following the signing of contracts with the last of three main ­construction partners, clearing the way for the renovation to be completed by 2028.

    Lendlease, Kane Constructions and Hindmarsh were selected to proceed with the three separate works packages and inked official agreements with the AWM this week.

    “This is an exciting milestone for everyone working on the ­development as it will allow the contractors to bring each of the three stages into reality,” AWM director Matt Anderson said.

    Canberra-based construction company Kane Constructions will manage the AWM’s Southern Entry, while Hindmarsh was handed responsibility for the CEW Bean Building extension and Lendlease given the job of constructing the new Anzac Hall.

    The CEW Bean Building was named after the official war ­correspondent and driving force behind the creation of the AWM in ­Canberra, Charles Edwin Woodrow Bean.

    “Charles Bean wanted to create a memorial, an archive and a museum, and the building works embody this vision,” Mr Anderson said.

    “In a fitting finish, the roof of the new Anzac Hall takes its inspiration from the iconic Australian rising sun badge.”

    Lendlease will also be responsible for delivering the glazed link with a translucent roof connecting the heritage building and new Anzac Hall, providing more than 7000sq m of new ­exhibition space.

    Cranes are expected to be onsite by next week, with the Southern Entrance to be completed by 2024 and the whole project to be finished within the next six years.

    The milestone comes amid controversy over the memorial’s announcement that it would include greater recognition of the “frontier wars” in its galleries, in reference to massacres of Indigenous Australians during colonisation.

    Opposition veterans’ affairs spokesman Barnaby Joyce has been lobbying the AWM against the move and confirmed he had met with representatives as recently as November 11. “The sentiment from the public is that they don’t want this in the Australian War Memorial,” Mr Joyce said.

    “It’s not that they don’t agree that there were massacres and acknowledge they are a blight and disgrace, there are just vastly more appropriate places for that to be (displayed).”

    Under questioning from Nationals senator Matt Canavan at senate estimates, Mr Anderson said the AWM hadn’t sought legal advice on whether displaying ­materials from the frontier wars was a breach of its Act, which laid out the original intent of the ­memorial, since 2013.

    What of the inconvenient truth that more then one of those “Frontier massacres” was fully investigated, and found to be nothing more then “Stories my Nanna told me?”


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  86. Zipstersays:
    November 18, 2022 at 2:24 pm
    2 weeks to flatten the curve

    Global leaders back vaccine passports for future international travel
    gbnews

    “You will owned nothing and be happy”


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  87. Turtlehead

    Just as an aside. Have the docs upped the anti-depressant medication? The reason I ask is that recently you’re sounding a more aggressive than your regular passive aggressive self. I suspected it was a medication change.


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  88. Thefrolickingmoll:

    A Northern Territory police officer who shot dead an Indigenous teenager should face traditional payback to help restore harmony in his outback community, an inquest has been told.

    The parents of this man should be forced to attend the hearing and explain why they failed so bloody miserably at their primary task with him.
    I’ll start off…
    “You had ONE job…”


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  89. They keep taking and since there no push back, they take more. I still cant comprehend that the majority of people accepted (and still accept) no jab no job, lockdowns etc. They will keep taking until the social credit system is fully implemented. What are you going to do then?


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  90. Mr Anderson said the AWM hadn’t sought legal advice on whether displaying ­materials from the frontier wars was a breach of its Act

    I was going to say “words fail”, but then it was recently revealed that the government hadn’t sought legal advice on its Voice proposal.

    Do they imagine they are above the rule of law?


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  91. Mr Anderson said the AWM hadn’t sought legal advice on whether displaying ­materials from the frontier wars was a breach of its Act

    A society in which illegality is the basis for conduct doesn’t have much to offer its citizens.


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  92. Courtesy of Westprint Maps.

    Friday Funnies

    The Washington Post’s Mensa Invitational once again invited readers to take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or changing one letter, and supply a new definition. Here are the winners:

    Cashtration(n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the subject financially impotent for an indefinite period of time.

    Intaxicaton: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with.

    Reintarnation: Coming back to life as a hillbilly.

    Bozone(n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.

    Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high

    Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn’t get it.

    Inoculatte: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.

    Osteopornosis: A degenerate disease. (This one got extra credit.)

    Karmageddon: It’s like when everybody is sending off all these really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it’s like, a serious bummer.

    Decafalon(n.): The grueling event of getting through the day consuming only things that are good for you.

    Glibido: All talk and no action.

    Dopeler Effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly.

    Arachnoleptic Fit(n.): The frantic dance performed just after you’ve accidentally walked through a spider web.

    Beelzebug(n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.

    Caterpallor(n.): The color you turn after finding half a worm in the fruit you’re eating.



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  93. Culture, and paying respects to elders past, present and emerging (the NT Independent):

    One of the five teens involved in ramming police vehicles with stolen cars in Katherine on Wednesday night was released on bail despite police objections just hours before the incident, the NT Independent can reveal.

    The teen, 14, cannot be named under NT law, but sources familiar with the incident and the suspects told the NT Independent the teen is considered the ring leader of the group who targeted police during the reckless rampage down Katherine’s main street.

    The teen, who has a long criminal history, was arrested for his alleged involvement in stealing cars earlier in the week, but granted bail by Chief Judge Elizabeth Morris on Wednesday.

    NT Police had strongly urged Chief Judge Morris not to grant the bail.

    Hours later, officers and their police cars were being targeted by the teen and four others who stole two vehicles and smashed them into the police cars that were parked on the side of the road.

    Katherine residents are right this second giving the big thumbs up to Chief Judge Morris.


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  94. The parents of this man should be forced to attend the hearing and explain why they failed so bloody miserably at their primary task with him.
    I’ll start off…
    “You had ONE job…”

    100%.
    Rolfey went out looking for trouble that night and he killed a young man.
    Whether he did that because he hadn’t killed anyone for a while, we’ll never know for sure.


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  95. If the Republican primary ever gets to a debate, Trump is going to take DeSantis over his knee like a naughty schoolboy.

    Quote of the thread from dickless, sweating profusely over his dank, blistered keyboard as he projects himself into this grotty image only capable of being generated by the festering leftie mind (sic).


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  96. Outside court on Thursday, the emerging Warlpiri leader Samara Fernandez?Brown said Rolfe should lose his job with the NT police force.
    Pretty weak sauce from this alleged “leader”.
    It’s an indictment of the NT Government that Rolfey hasn’t been dismissed since he was let off.


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  97. Whether he did that because he hadn’t killed anyone for a while, we’ll never know for sure.

    Can you confirm your implication that he’s actually killed anyone else ( In Afghanistan, or elsewhere)?

    I’m interested to know.


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  98. Rolfey went out looking for trouble that night and he killed a young man.
    Whether he did that because he hadn’t killed anyone for a while, we’ll never know for sure.

    More projection from crotchless!


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  99. Rolfey went out looking for trouble that night and he killed a young man.

    BTW Ed, looking for trouble is in a police officer’s job description, or at least it should be.


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  100. Does anyone know what the significance of Drummond Street, Carlton (circa 1976) for the Labor Party is.
    A Union Office just around the corner from a Post Office where the winning number of votes gets dumped at 11.55pm on a Friday night.


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  101. From Advance:

    This Sunday, hundreds of angry landowners will meet in a tiny community hall in Gilmore, NSW – about a four and half hour drive from Sydney.

    They’re trying to stop a $4 billion renewable energy transmission line that is tearing their communities apart.

    Led by farmer Bill Kingwill, these salt-of-the-earth Aussies don’t want the 360-kilometre-long HumeLink destroying their farms.

    They don’t want transmission towers as tall as the Sydney Harbour Bridge running through their paddocks.

    They don’t want a foreign owned company cutting a 70-metre-wide scar through their communities.

    And they don’t want 2500 hectares of valuable Australian land destroyed – just to ferry renewable energy to Sydney.

    They don’t want it because they know that not only will it gouge a great scar through their farms, it is actually going to cause their energy bills to skyrocket.

    They know that renewables cannot provide baseload power.

    They understand that they pay for the construction of these new transmission lines with their taxes and they’ll also be paying more when the power bills get dropped in their letterboxes.

    So, who does benefit?

    Well, the Teal voters feel good about saving the world and woke, crony capitalist clean up via subsidies and carbon credits.

    That’s who wins, that’s the scam, and you PAY FOR IT.

    Where are the politicians who have the guts to stand up and fight this scam?

    The likes of Matt Canavan and Alex Antic do, but where is Peter Dutton?

    What happened to the Liberal Party that used to fight on principles?

    And while governments state and federal play their ‘Net Zero’ games, ordinary Australians are copping it with higher grocery bills, higher interest rates and power bills that are off the charts.


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  102. After its initial $25/sh bid for copper-nickel mid-tier Oz Minerals (ASX:OZL) was rebuffed for not being exciting enough, BHP (ASX:BHP) played it cool with ‘it’s fine, you’d be nice to have but we don’t need you’.

    That wasn’t exactly true. BHP are now back at the table with a far shinier, $28.5/sh offer and, this time, OZ is keen. OZ chairman, Rebecca McGrath says the revised proposal from BHP followed a period of “board-level engagement” which secured a circa $1.1 billion increase to the initial offer.

    The share price briefly touched new offer levels in January this year. Before that, the last time OZ hit $28.5 was mid-2008.

    Long suffering shareholders rejoice.

    BHP will now conduct four weeks of exclusive due diligence, which will kick off next Monday. If all goes well the miners will ink a binding scheme implementation agreement, after which the OZ board will unanimously recommend the deal to shareholders in the absence of a superior proposal.

    BHP says this is their best and final offer.


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  103. The Gilmore Valley is a beautiful little spot between Batlow and Tumut.

    The Teals can get on a solar powered B Ark with Svengali Simon.

    BUT…isn’t having more interconnectors a good thing?

    It’s not as if the Snowy Mtns doesn’t have transmission wires everywhere anyway.


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  104. J.C.

    Just as an aside. Have the docs upped the anti-depressant medication? The reason I ask is that recently you’re sounding a more aggressive than your regular passive aggressive self. I suspected it was a medication change.

    You realise I’m not on any anti depressants?
    Are you still on your anti psychotics? Because you seem to be having a bugger of a time differentiating between normal and abnormal behaviour.


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  105. Dolly Parton and Queen Elizabeth went to the Pearly Gates on the same day.

    They both met with an angel to find out if they would be admitted to Heaven.

    The angel said “Unfortunately, there’s only one space in Heaven today so I must decide which one of you will be admitted”.

    The angel asked Dolly if there was some particular reason why she should go to Heaven. Dolly took off her top and said “Look at these! They’re the most perfect breasts God ever created and I’m sure it will please God to be able to see them every day, for eternity”.

    The angel thanked Dolly, and asked Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the same question.

    The Queen walked over to a toilet, pulled the lever and flushed it without saying a word.

    The Angel immediately said “Okay, your Majesty, you may go into Heaven”.

    Dolly was outraged and asked “What was that all about? I showed you two of God’s own perfect creations and you turned me down. She simply flushed a commode and she got admitted to Heaven! Would you explain that to me?

    “Sorry, Dolly” said the Angel “but even in Heaven, a royal flush beats a pair!”


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  106. Do you think Rolfey may have killed previously, Mater?

    Probably because the poor bastard had no guidance about chafeless undies because experts like you can’t be bothered. What a selfish prick you are. Walker would still be alive today if you had stepped up.


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  107. In text messages with comrades, Rolfey generally refers to Aboriginal people as “coons”.
    In your opinion, Mater, does that sound like The Rolfster is a respectable person?


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  108. https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/food-wine/hospitality-industry-proposes-overhaul-to-relax-was-liquor-laws-on-good-friday-and-christmas-day-c-8895296

    I don’t understand why penalty rates exist at all any more since no day is “sacred” anymore. Not Sundays, not Good Friday, not Christmas… so why have penalty rates at all?

    Cos, maaaaaaaaates.

    If the hospo associations were serious, they’d be calling for all days to be declared “non sacred” so they can open whenever they want and pay minimum wages.


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  109. In your opinion, Mater, does that sound like The Rolfster is a respectable person?

    Stop attempting to shift the goal posts, you dickhead.

    You inferred he’d previously killed (a human). Do you have evidence, or are you merely partaking in a bit of gratuitous smearing?


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  110. Ed Casesays:
    November 18, 2022 at 3:18 pm
    The parents of this man should be forced to attend the hearing and explain why they failed so bloody miserably at their primary task with him.
    I’ll start off…
    “You had ONE job…”
    100%.
    Rolfey went out looking for trouble that night and he killed a young man.
    Whether he did that because he hadn’t killed anyone for a while, we’ll never know for sure.

    Take a day off idiot. Rolfe was sent there to do a job, his partner and him got attacked with a blade. What part did you not understand. I typed slowly so you may comprehend as you read or do you only read comics? Its a wonder the aspiring football rapper wasn’t offed by one of his own.


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  111. You inferred he’d previously killed (a human). Do you have evidence, or are you merely partaking in a bit of gratuitous smearing?
    We know he’s killed at least once.
    He’s a loose cannon, he was in Afghanistan in Infantry.
    Now, this will likely come as a massive shock to you, Mater, but:
    The one job of Infantry is to kill people.
    They train for it every day.
    You don’t seem to be able to process this basic fact.


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  112. John Ray III has no problem identifying a company that’s rotten to its core. He’s the lawyer who’s been appointed as CEO to clean up the FTX mess and the guy who was appointed to oversee Enron’s liquidation process.

    John Ray III thinks FTX is in worse shape than Enron.

    “I have over 40 years of legal and restructuring experience,” Ray said in an updated, 30-page bankruptcy filing for the crypto exchange. “I have been the chief restructuring officer or chief executive officer in several of the largest corporate failures in history …. never in my career have I seen such a complete failure of corporate controls and such a complete absence of trustworthy financial information as occurred here.”

    Some highlights:

    Employees submitted expense reimbursements over a chat app. A random supervisor accepted or rejected the payments using an emoji. In fact, few records of any description, were kept and most decisions were made over chat with messages automatically deleting over time.

    Alameda Research – FTX’s trading firm and hedge fund – gave Sam Bankman-Fried a US$1 billion personal loan. They also loaned Director of Engineering Nishad Singh US$543 million.

    The US$32 billion company (at its peak) never held board meetings, had no cash-management system and no proper records of who it employed. Management had no idea how much cash was on hand at any given time, or even where all their cash was.

    The firm’s corporate funds were used to purchase personal use real estate. And employees and executives put their names on homes purchased with company funds.

    Customer-deposited crypto wasn’t recorded on the FTX balance sheet.

    Meanwhile, elsewhere in the crypto world these rumours are circulating (validity unknown): Crypto lender Genesis seeks $US1 billion emergency loan by Monday and, Binance US is planning to acquire bankrupt crypto lender Voyager, who had been bailed out by FTX.


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  113. Dot:

    The Teals can get on a solar powered B Ark with Svengali Simon.
    BUT…isn’t having more interconnectors a good thing?
    It’s not as if the Snowy Mtns doesn’t have transmission wires everywhere anyway.

    Perhaps the interconnectors and transmission lines can go through Manly/Palm Beach/ Balgowlah/Narrabeen.
    You know, on their way to the North Shore Ecocrucifixes that the Teals will build out into the Pacific.


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  114. In text messages with comrades, Rolfey generally refers to Aboriginal people as “coons”.
    In your opinion, Mater, does that sound like The Rolfster is a respectable person?

    You idiot, he was obviously referring to cheese and 3rd nations consumption of same. I bet you sit around in your crotchless panties, eating stilton and imbibing cardboard plonk. What a snob you are.


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  115. Remote indigenous communities have violence against women 80 times that of everywhere else.
    Uh huh.

    What % of that is Women assaulting other Women?
    What’s the % of Women assaulting men?
    I’ll bet it’s a sight more than 80 times anywhere else.


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  116. We know he’s killed at least once.

    I happen to know ‘Rolfey”s body count is 22, and none of them while he was with the ADF. Outstanding sources.

    Lots of room for shallow graves out here. A lot of people go missing. On his days off he’d drive out to roadhouses, park a little out of the way and lure backpackers to his ute. Once enticed in with the promise of frosty beverages, he’d clout them with a 12 inch tyre iron (so he could swing it in the cabin) and head for the desert.

    If they were still alive by the time he finished digging, he’d jam their mouths full of minced mutton.


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  117. From: Gregory Hood/Unz Review:
    Failure in the MidTerms

    At least some voters turned out to defend abortion specifically. A plurality of 31 percent of voters said inflation was the most important issue, but abortion wasn’t far behind at 27 percent. In Pennsylvania, those polled said abortion was the top issue, and voters who said abortion was most important broke four to one for Democrat John Fetterman. In Michigan, a plurality of 45 percent said abortion was most important. Voters from that plurality backed Democrat Gretchen Wilson 77 to 22 percent.

    Young (and therefore more racially diverse) voters backed Democrats. Even a majority of 18–29-year-old men backed Democrats. This included a majority of white 18–29-year-olds; every other generation of whites voted Republican. While married women backed Republicans, unmarried women voted overwhelmingly for Democrats. Deliberately or not, Democrats gain from broken families and measures that weaken families.

    Bottom Line:
    It was Abortion, plus fruitcake Trump endorsed loons.


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  118. J.C.:
    Did your rush trip back to the US enable you to save your financial empire?
    Hope you like Pal Meatloaf.
    (Of course not, we are going to be regaled with Uncle George Soros saving your sorry arse even as you come to realise you’re being ejected as ‘surplus to need’. Just like every other poor bastard who is losing their pension and life savings.)


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  119. The one job of Infantry is to kill people.
    They train for it every day.
    You don’t seem to be able to process this basic fact.

    Fuck you’re a dishonest dickhead.
    You haven’t got a fucking clue, and nothing you’ve said comes within cooee of validating your bullshit statement.

    You come from a family of shirkers, skivers and scoundrels. What would you know about the Infantry, or their exploits in Afghanistan?


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  120. Lots of room for shallow graves out here. A lot of people go missing. On his days off he’d drive out to roadhouses, park a little out of the way and lure backpackers to his ute. Once enticed in with the promise of frosty beverages, he’d clout them with a 12 inch tyre iron (so he could swing it in the cabin) and head for the desert.

    Wasn’t it a little red car?

    Or a manual ute?


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  121. Employees submitted expense reimbursements over a chat app. A random supervisor accepted or rejected the payments using an emoji. In fact, few records of any description, were kept and most decisions were made over chat with messages automatically deleting over time.

    You might even say… they had Slack record-keeping!
    nyuk nyuk


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  122. Hawley ERUPTS On Sec. Mayorkas Over Leaked Docs Showing Collusion With Big Tech

    All good theatre, but nothing ever comes of these rants. The government hack just blatantly lied to Hawley’s face, knowing full well he will get away with it.


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  123. Republicans are also stuck with deeply unpopular positions, notably meddling with Social Security and Medicare. Blake Masters floated the idea of privatizing Social Security, which let incumbent Senator Mark Kelly run ads on the issue. The program is unsustainable without an overhaul, but because changing it is political suicide, nothing will happen until it’s too late. Republican Governor Chris Sununu criticized Senators Lindsey Graham and Rick Scott for trying to discuss changes to abortion and Social Security at the national level, and he was strategically right to do so.

    That’s just nuts.
    The SC struck down Roe v Wade and sent the issue back to the States.

    President Trump harping on the 2020 elections didn’t sit well with voters. Almost as many voters said they were turning out to stop Donald Trump as said they were voting to stop Joe Biden. In a break from the last four midterms, independent voters tended to support Democrats rather than the party out of power. Polls indicate that some of those who oppose Joe Biden still voted Democrat, and that President Trump’s negative approval rating hurt his candidates.

    Trump proved to be a phony. voters say yes.


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  124. You come from a family of shirkers, skivers and scoundrels. What would you know about the Infantry, or their exploits in Afghanistan?

    Settle down Grandma.
    Perhaps time for another unread Guest Post?


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  125. This fiction that abolishing abortion rights is popular actually if you just thread the needle like so… is just plain bullshit. No, there are no magic words. Most people hate it, especially women.

    The reality is that Dobbs is wildly unpopular in key swing demographics, and some Republican politicians had to pay the penalty for that. Somewhat of the same dynamic happened in the wake of Obamacare passing. Elected Democrats in purple districts who voted for it tended to get turfed out in the next cycle, with some saying it was worth it to get such a major accomplishment passed.

    Are there any Republicans out there who would say the same about Dobbs? Maybe not, because they don’t think they can keep it, unlike the ACA which is now a permanent part of the US health system post McCain’s vote.


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  126. Ed Casesays:
    November 18, 2022 at 4:34 pm…..My take from all that is..’the voters disregarded the cost of living rises,political corruption from the Whitehouse down , zero border protection and voted for there right to have a abortion’?..Really?


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  127. NY and CA are not uniformly blue. There are big red pockets. Try again.

    D lost Congressional seats in CA and NY. If Dobbs mattered it would have certainly mattered in blue states. And that is even leaving aside the large R votes in FL and TX and their pro-life position.

    Frankly, if you’re handwringing about why Republicans are currently on the nose with unmarried women and you refuse to countenance Dobbs having anything to do with it, you’re going to argue yourself into a rhetorical corner as you turn your face from the elephant in the room. It’s painfully obvious.

    There is plenty of room between everything and nothing, monty. I don’t discount that large numbers of single women (and men) are quite prepared to continue killing their unborn child for this or that reason.


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  128. Does anyone know what the significance of Drummond Street, Carlton (circa 1976) for the Labor Party is.

    Same block as Trades Hall, Lysander. There was likely a building they or the unions were renting or owned.


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  129. This fiction that abolishing abortion rights is popular actually if you just thread the needle like so… is just plain bullshit. No, there are no magic words. Most people hate it, especially women.

    I think Monty is right. The moral collapse of the West is pretty much complete. Death cult is taking hold in more and more sections of society.
    The other day 12 Republican senators voted with the Dems to make homo “marriage” the law of the land.


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  130. Maybe voters vote strategically.

    They want Biden gone (as well as Pelosi and his tax & fiscal policies) so vote Red for the House but they know the Senate says yes or no to judges and think Dobbs was a little too far.

    Or this is not easy to generalise about because the Senate seats have a rotating election cycle of six years staggered every two years.


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  131. Ed Case:

    He’s a loose cannon, he was in Afghanistan in Infantry.
    Now, this will likely come as a massive shock to you, Mater, but:
    The one job of Infantry is to kill people.
    They train for it every day.
    You don’t seem to be able to process this basic fact.

    Sigh.
    Another walkback.
    Ed, don’t you get tired of this?


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  132. This fiction that abolishing abortion rights is popular

    This is the fiction.
    The right to legislate in relation to abortion is back in the hands of the states.
    Don’t like it at a federal level, then pass a federal law.


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  133. Lizzie, you could have fast-forwarded that converstation by saying to the bloke, “Oh you’re actually a friend of Al Gore? …why aren’t you travelling on one of his aeroplanes then?”

    I knew I could easily net these two when he tried to pull rank with the mention of Gore.
    No genuine atmospheric scientist or someone in a related scientific field aware of the ensuing literature could still take the spruiker of ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ seriously. I didn’t even bother to mention the legally demonstrated falsehoods in this appalling decieving document still shown to children as a frightener. I think these two were completely unused to meeting ‘fellow academics’ who were not singing to the cult’s tune though, which speaks volumes about university cultures, and not just in the Arts realms either.

    I have a suspicion he was off soon to a big climate gab fest in the US though as he mentioned a date by which he had to be back for a ‘meeting’. The sound of puffed importance, lol, for they were retirees or near to it, jetting the world to still maintain contacts with their successful PhD students for self-validation; something neither Hairy nor I feel any need to do. It is a way of life for some retired academics. Thankfully, our working lives have encompassed more than this, especially Hairy’s.


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  134. In text messages with comrades, Rolfey generally refers to Aboriginal people as “coons”.

    “Call them what you like, it’s nothing to what they call you…”


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  135. Cohenite:

    You idiot, he was obviously referring to cheese and 3rd nations consumption of same. I bet you sit around in your crotchless panties, eating stilton and imbibing cardboard plonk. What a snob you are.

    Ewww. Cohenite. That is such a gross picture.
    On another aspect, Coon Cheese is closing one of its factories and laying off 75 wukkas due to the response from the community about the name change.
    I feel sorry for the Wukkas, but watch the Woke from the sales department scuttle off to the next victory over the peasants…


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  136. Re: FTX. There is plenty of blame to go around but I can’t help but be bemused that anybody thought a 28 y/o had sufficient experience to act as CEO of a multi-billion dollar business.

    From Wikipedia:

    Caroline Ellison graduated from Stanford University in 2016 with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics. According to her Twitter and Tumblr feeds, Ellison enjoyed reading Harry Potter books and fan fiction, was polyamorous and regularly used amphetamines.

    After graduation, Ellison worked for the quantitative trading firm Jane Street where she met Sam Bankman-Fried. Ellison spent 19 months as a junior trader at Jane Street. She then moved to Alameda Research in March 2018.

    Ellison became the sole CEO of Alameda Research in August 2022 after her co-CEO Sam Trabucco stepped down.

    So, within six years of graduation, she has gone from a junior trader to CEO of Alameda which had ‘borrowed’ $US10 billion from FTX (client’s money) and was using that money to pay Alameda’s liabilities. There is no doubt that Bankman-Fried and two other FTX executives, Nishad Singh and Gary Wang, were well aware/facilitated this in addition to the former co-CEO Sam Trabucco.

    All of those mentioned are in the 28-32 age bracket and all seemed to think other people’s money is a play thing with no accountability. Perhaps they will end up in government roles.


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  137. Jeez, I missed that one, John. Have you got a link/search phrase?

    It’s called “Respect for Marriage Act”. I only have Lifesitenews link, and I gather it might not be popular here.


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  138. Lizzie:

    I knew I could easily net these two when he tried to pull rank with the mention of Gore.

    Lizzie, you’re using facts against a cultist.
    Now, we trained you better than that – you should have immediately started with his houses and planes.

    Then gone on to the ?Wedding? you’re going to a wedding during this crisis?


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  139. There is plenty of room between everything and nothing, monty. I don’t discount that large numbers of single women (and men) are quite prepared to continue killing their unborn child for this or that reason.

    The problem is not the attractiveness of marriage. The problem is fundamental human rights for women. Large numbers of women want to be single and don’t want to be mothers, but want to continue to have sex with contraception. And they vote, even though incels and other toxic dickheads hate them for it.

    The next fight could be over contraception, btw. It appears Obergefell is not the first target, but Griswold might be.


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  140. The true fun, interest and even joy of travel is often in the doing of it, meeting a variety of people and seeing how they behave in different circumstances to their normal, whether it’s chatting on the fly to Texas oilmen, climate cult academics or Amish heading for the beach.

    For instance, because we flew to Los Angeles via Atlanta, we were flung for a couple of hours transit into what is called the world’s busiest airport, and an older one at that. It was tremendously crowded, and as I hand my stuff over to Hairy as I head for the Ladies I say don’t expect this to be quick, for the queue was already out of the door. He was bored standing there waiting but inside I was having the time of my life. All sorts of women were joking in the line, a little fat Mexican one crossing her legs in a hop and saying Hola, Hola as one by one we ceded our places to her in a spirit of sisterly goodwill where the dominant shared purpose of all produced a commonality that was co-operative and friendly.

    Loads of bonhomie. Men don’t know they are born, was the general appreciation.
    And I’ve never seen women in a toilet queue move so fast; all were aware of the flight needs of others caught short by the queue. It was knickers down and up and no faffing about it, done by all.


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  141. I don’t bother trying to convince the hypocritical sh*ts any more. I tell them to think of the planet and go live in a cave.

    Always escalate with doomfetishists. They hate being alive anyway.


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  142. Makka:

    Did your rush trip back to the US enable you to save your financial empire?

    Oh, I was just taking the piss. Mind you, the rush across to the US was unfortunate timing for JC. It certainly left him wide open for ‘financial crisis claim’.
    Plus, I’m playing scrabble with old mate next door and had the letters ‘P’ ‘A’ & ‘L’ left over.
    It just seemed fortuitous.


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  143. Large numbers of women want to be single and don’t want to be mothers, but want to continue to have sex

    There it is, even mutley admits “large numbers of women” are narcissistic, selfish and self-centered. Pity mutley has no self awareness of what he says.


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  144. The other day 12 Republican senators voted with the Dems to make homo “marriage” the law of the land.

    This will strengthen society and, as a bonus, enhance America’s standing in the Muslim world.


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  145. Oh, and thanks for that volcano link, whoever posted it the other day. I had an interesting conversation with the dentist about it (as much as you can actually have with a dentist).

    The notion that huge eruptions and ash plumes can have profound but temporary effects on the weather sounded perfectly plausible to him, as it did for me. Doesn’t help the poor buggers being inundated in the inland, but it could be part of the explanation for an (almost) year of rain.


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  146. The next fight could be over contraception, btw. It appears Obergefell is not the first target, but Griswold might be.

    We cut kids dicks off and meddling conservatives are going to ban…contraception?


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  147. Large numbers of women want to be single and don’t want to be mothers

    There is a difference between ‘are’ and ‘want to be’, M0nty.
    Being single most sensibly precludes motherhood as ambitous women through the ages have accepted as a trade-off, although these days many go ahead anyway, finding the desire for a baby conquers everything else (as it tends to do). I doubt if men ever yearn for a baby the way women do. Such yearning can often come surprisingly late, and be exceptionally strong, even amongst women who have strongly felt themselves not to be motherly types. It is hardly surprising. It’s a species thing.

    The best outcome is to avoid being single, which can be hard if marriage is downgraded as a lifetime ambition under serial monogamy, if female expectations of suitable partners are mismatched to the available men, and if men are wary of marriage.
    A triple whammy.


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  148. Rosie:

    Could be people dont want to pay $17.75 for a pack of sliced cheese (up from $10)

    Certainly it didn’t make the choice to go alternate any more difficult.
    You know what I miss? The Kraft Cheddar Cheese blocks in silver paper. Cannot get it here, and if I go to the Big Smoke, I’ve got to refrigerate it for two days back.


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  149. The next fight could be over contraception

    Hahahahahaha, Monty is into the Clarence Thomas wants to ban condoms conspiracy theory.
    You are nuts Monty. No the Republican Party and the right do not want to ban contraception. Not even the Pope. Your fever dreams are fun, since they are a fine window into the insanity of the Left.


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  150. Maybe voters vote strategically.

    Doesn’t matter how they vote in most places. The polls, which skew left, predicted a red wave., however the only place that experienced a red wave was Florida. Do you think it was a coincidence that Florida also had the strictest voter laws? No bulk mail out ballots and voter ID required. They were also able to finish counting by the end of the day.

    It’s not who votes that counts. It’s who counts the votes.


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  151. The next fight could be over contraception, btw. It appears Obergefell is not the first target, but Griswold might be.

    Dickless has been bingeing The Handmaid’s Tale again.

    The serious point of course is the woke freaks, from mohawked young abortion kunts to the full spectrum of alphabet loons, don’t want their freedom but want to end the freedom of the normies. In that battle impressionable and dickless minds have been subverted by their dildo propaganda.


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  152. There it is, even mutley admits “large numbers of women” are narcissistic, selfish and self-centered.

    Free, you forgot free. They are free to do what they like, regardless of what Nazis like you want them to do for the Fatherland.


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  153. Large numbers of women want to be single and don’t want to be mothers, but want to continue to have sex

    ???

    Men won’t want to father children with them as it can be financially crippling.

    Who is going to support legislating the prohibition of contraception?

    Not men and not women…trannies and meddling conservatives? I hear Caitlin Jenner identifies as a conservative…

    If it has no support, you’re just dog whistling and fear mongering.

    To somehow prove a point that Dobbs eliminated the Republican Senate majority, but they picked up the House?

    How TF can you spend so much time on this bizarre nonsense?


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  154. Doesn’t matter how they vote in most places. The polls, which skew left, predicted a red wave., however the only place that experienced a red wave was Florida. Do you think it was a coincidence that Florida also had the strictest voter laws? No bulk mail out ballots and voter ID required. They were also able to finish counting by the end of the day.

    You’re absolutely right jupes.

    I cannot comprehend how an average American tolerates the level of fraud.


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  155. Lizzie, you’re using facts against a cultist.

    Yes. Mea culpa, Winston, Calli and Rosie and others who have noted my misdemeanour.

    I should have stated the truth – that my views allowed me to fly, and theirs didn’t, so why were they taking up two carel seats which Hairy and I could have used to sit together. 🙂

    I did have a moment when I felt like asking them if they’d like the plane to run on hydrogen.

    Va-vooom.


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  156. Hahahahahaha, Monty is into the Clarence Thomas wants to ban condoms conspiracy theory.

    Mmyes, the “theory” in which the major source is… Clarence Thomas himself concurring in Dobbs.

    Why wouldn’t he and Alito and the others in the Dobbs majority go on and repeal Griswold, Loving and Obergefell? It’s not as if they are accountable to anyone.


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  157. Free, you forgot free. They are free to do what they like, regardless of what Nazis like you want them to do for the Fatherland.

    You mean like lock themselves down and roll the sleeve up?

    You’ve got some hide to talk about freedom after your attitude towards it over the last 30 months.


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  158. monty is also confusing proffering advice to be traditional as the same as state enforced traditionalism.

    Which is funny as he boasted about pontifical blessing of his marriage!

    You can desire liberty and counsel to be traditional.

    There is no ontological problem here and it doesn’t make you a “Nazi” as he so snidely puts it.


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  159. Of course the fun real world example of Handmaid’s Tale is in a country I’m sure Monty loves.
    Because they are communists.

    China Caused a Baby Bust with Forced Abortions, Now ‘Forced Pregnancy is in the Future of Chinese Women’ (17 Feb)

    According to The Wall Street Journal, a recent plan by the government-backed China Family-Planning Association outlined a “campaign of intervention” to reduce unplanned pregnancies and abortions among adolescents and unmarried women. It said the aim was to “improve reproductive health.”

    “(The government) will begin to force young women to become pregnant. It will begin to force them to carry their pregnancies to term, force them to bear children,” he said. “And I say that, knowing that the communist party has now closed down 90% of its abortion centers. They’re closing down abortion centers left and right.”

    Funny how the Left projects all the time. Whatever they falsely accuse righties of wanting to do they are already doing 10 times more.


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  160. It’s not as if they are accountable to anyone.

    They can be impeached and tried like any US official who makes up any branch of government. Federal judges have been tried, convicted, stripped of office. Can’t remember any custodial sentences or fines.


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  161. LGBTM. Its a thing now, anyone can transition to a Munt. 99% of brain removed, the rest for bodily functions. Opps, must have cut a bit more. They love to wallow in their own excrement.


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  162. They can be impeached and tried like any US official who makes up any branch of government.

    Irrelevant as you well know, can’t get a two-thirds majority to convict in the modern day.


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