Open Thread – Weekend 26 Nov 2022


Boulevard Montmartre – Spring Rain, Camille Pissarro, 1897


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MatrixTransform
November 27, 2022 5:03 pm

Um…

yes you mong … a typo that was corrected

a least you’ll stop the petulant crowing about a battle between Sumyurek and Patten
or Finn losing.

silly man

rosie
rosie
November 27, 2022 5:05 pm

Big Concrete aeroplanes.
Not sure I fancy flying in one of those.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:05 pm

Tommy – I have one word for you, Squire – Leave.

Do not pass go, do not collect $200, just get the hell out of there.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 5:05 pm

HHBear:

Not without starving 100m + people within a couple of months. China and the West are trapped in a mutual dependence for the immediate future whether they like it or not. cf Europe and Russia this winter and the next few.

HBB You should already know from history that starving peasants doesn’t amount to anything in the Socialist Pantheon. As long as there are enough willing soldiers to kill and bury the ‘counter revolutionaries’ they don’t give a shit about starving peasants.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:06 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 4:32 pm
It’s my opinion that the recapture of the Philippines was largely to assuage MacArthur’s ego.

Lot of that, but the Oz history makes a case that it was valuable as a jump off point for Okinawa and Kyushu. Plus it sucked in and destroyed the IJN, which was quite necessary also.

Not really. The operational reserve for Okinawa was held in New Caledonia, according to SE Morison. Others were at Ulithi and, IIRC, Manus. Some troops (including the division featured in Hacksaw Ridge) were redeployed from the Philippines to Okinawa, but it was hardly a “jump off point”. The USN ran the invasions of Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and preferred not to deal with MacArthur and the SWPA.

PS, tens of thousands of Filipino civilians died in the battle for Manila.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 5:07 pm

So as a booby prize we got Balikpapan, Tarakan and Labuan.

Which my grandfather was a member of these campaigns according to his record of service.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:11 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 4:43 pm
A fun thing with the Philippines reconquest is that we were dead keen on having an Australian division contribute, and MacArthur was even more dead keen that we didn’t contribute. He didn’t want the Philippines liberated by scum from hickville. So as a booby prize we got Balikpapan, Tarakan and Labuan. Which I have to say went very well.

And as a double booby prize, an invasion of Java was next on the schedule. Because Java is so much closer to Japan.

PS, Tarakan was an expensive, and ultimately pointless, mess.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 5:13 pm

Andrews’ third term will be a giant fuck you to everyone who doesn’t support his mad Belt and Road, CCP-style ideology.

As long as the borders remain open there is little that sad sack of shit can really do.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 5:13 pm

Communal Bog Lover.

Pogria – Lindsay Davis comments on that in her novel “The Silver Pigs“. Her character, who is a spy for Vespasian, is asked by the laundry lady at the ground floor of his tenement for a donation. Urine is a good agent for bleaching clothes, so she asked passersby to contribute to her detergent stocks.

Her whole Falco series is an excellent read.

mem
mem
November 27, 2022 5:13 pm

Early on in the Covid 19 “pandemic” I watched a video by a research doctor who I think was either Swiss/Austrian or maybe German. who demonstrated that if an MRNA vaccine was injected into the blood stream, rather than into the muscle, it could break up and some particles travel and lodge in organs such as the heart or brain causing inflammation and damage. He recommended that all staff giving jabs be advised to aspirate the needle before injecting. And if any blood was present to move to a location where an aspiration showed not even a speck of blood. Given that aspiration of needles wasn’t a contemporary practice, he recommended that medical staff would need to be specifically briefed to do so.
Does anyone else recall this video or know if there was any follow up to see if those getting myocardia or strokes were injected correctly? And also if medical staff were briefed on this procedure? I posted a link to the video on catallaxy but can’t find it now.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 5:14 pm

Pogria:

I would be open to the idea of setting up an Israeli style Kibbutz if the shit hits the fan. I only have one spare room, but plenty of space for a few caravans.

Have a look around for mothballed mining camps. There’s heaps out there in Qld and NT and if Gerbil Cooling gets a look in, should be quite adequate for a company of 20 family shareholders.
You’ll need to vet them – some will think they will be in charge of the place and can sit out the trials and tribulations.

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 5:15 pm

Andrews’ third term will be a giant fuck you to everyone who doesn’t support his mad Belt and Road, CCP-style ideology.

yes- the left is very into punishment these days. Look at the junta that seized control in DC.

Tom
Tom
November 27, 2022 5:16 pm

Golf clap. Outsider Melbourne won the AFLW grand final with a boys junior competition score of 19 points to 15 points over Brisbane – a tribute to retiring Melbourne captain Daisy Pearce, a genuine leader of women and a great thinker about the game who’s one of the best commentators on the AFL men’s game.

Needless to say, Daisy is one of the minority in the AFLW playing ranks who isn’t a homosexual.

Zipster
November 27, 2022 5:16 pm

“They made it loud and clear they want action on climate change, housing affordability and integrity in politics.

doctors wives from Vaucluse are concerntrolling us about housing affordability?

open up a couple of spare rooms to some Kings Cross junkies then

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 5:17 pm

Monty:

Catbutz! A splendid idea with no downsides. I endorse it heartily.

You’re taking an invitation for granted, you poisonous little snake.
Your only position would be as a walking larder.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:19 pm

What I meant was how people see themselves

“A man is generally what he perceives himself to be”

I’ve blundered through this life as a member of the privileged new credentialled class and it’s not something I’m remotely proud of.

An economist who lives in inner western Sydney, if you’re looking for a handy cliché.

But not a collectivist. Everyone I meet nowadays automatically makes that assumption.

“Infuriating” does not even come close to describing it, Cats.

Modern life is a moral vacuum.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 5:19 pm

War is shitty. I haven’t read about that bit, since it’s not covered in the Oz volumes for obvious reason. Was that due to the US or the Japanese?

An estimated 40,000 killed by American bombing and shelling, the remainder murdered by the Japanese, in what became known as “The Rape on Manila.”

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 5:20 pm

“Hope always defeats hate”.

Obama’s MiniMe.

What can the poor young man you flattened and walked away from scot free hope for? What can the poor buggers shot with rubber bullets at the shrine hope for? And the people who lost their jobs and their businesses under your evil and repressive covid crap hope for?

You utter, depraved creature of the dark. You wouldn’t know “hope” if you tripped over it and it bit you on your skinny bum. You would probably want to imprison it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:21 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 4:58 pm
Macarthur didn’t need any more divisions in the Philippines, since we were very keen to send one of our veteran ones, the 6th or 7th I forget which. But he rejected our offer.

He needed those US divisions shipped there, which could have gone to Europe. The shipping was also needed, but not available, to get extra divisions and reinforcements to Europe.

But without the divisions sent to him, there would have been no invasion of the Philippines, and no “I said I would return, and I have” moment.

PS, wherever the USN main force went, the remnants of the IJN would have followed, but they were largely in the south because that is where the fuel was available. The experience of the Yamato indicates their inevitable fate had they not been destroyed near the Philippines. Wherever the IJN went after late 1944, it was doomed, for lack of carrier aircraft and trained aircrews.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 5:21 pm

And no, I don’t “hate” you.

I despise you, which is something quite different.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 5:21 pm

Pogria:

Addendum to my previous comment, Gun owners most welcome. Rabbits in plague proportions here. Lots of good meat. I love rabbit pie.

What part of Australia are you in, Pogria?
Do you like minced Rabbit?
My smallest caliber rifle is .308.
Not much good for wabbits unless you like ’em skinned and minced in one go.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 5:22 pm

or know if there was any follow up to see if those getting myocardia or strokes were injected correctly?

LOL. The corrupt media are still trumpeting ‘safe and effective’. The truth will never get out.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 5:22 pm

Tarakan was an expensive, and ultimately pointless, mess.

Wasn’t that bad. The political imperative was very powerful too: we as a responsible post-WW2 power doing good things for our neighbours. Plus the intention to keep the Americans sweet by being bright and bushytailed, even if they didn’t want us around. Tarakan, sir yes sir! It was the same in Gulf War II. Got to keep our sugar daddy happy, which in WW2 was a guy called Doug.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:23 pm

So thank goodness for Rock ‘n’ Roll! 🙂

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 27, 2022 5:24 pm

been considering an Ealing post.

Yes.

I remember seeing Whisky Galore when I was about 15 years old and very much engrossed in the big blockbusters – and was astounded by how much I enjoyed this meek little black and white film – without the grand vistas, armies, explosions, or the existential stakes, or more in the style of comedies without the breakneck chases, the machine gun delivery, or the frivolous banter while hanging by a thread off a cliff, this film kept me rooted to the spot and laughing.

so, yes. Bring the Ealing comedies on.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 5:28 pm
CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
November 27, 2022 5:30 pm

Lavender Hill Mob.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:31 pm

callisays:
November 27, 2022 at 5:21 pm
And no, I don’t “hate” you.

I despise you, which is something quite different.

Are you referring to m0nty=fa?

Whatever, you are quite correct. Hatred is only possible with personal knowledge of an individual, which most of us lack wrt m0nty=fa.

Despise is good, hold in contempt suits me more.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 5:32 pm

If the Japs had taken Timor

They did.

then landed 2 divisions in Darwin in a next stage

They couldn’t have, and it was pointless anyway for the exact reasons put forward earlier.

Zipster
November 27, 2022 5:32 pm

this will be a good test of the social credit system, green ticks auto turn to red crosses

Shanghai hit by protests as anger at zero-COVID and Urumqi fire spreads across China

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rockdoctor says: November 27, 2022 at 5:07 pm

So as a booby prize we got Balikpapan, Tarakan and Labuan.

Which my grandfather was a member of these campaigns according to his record of service.

Was sitting calmly on a horse, somewhere in Queensland, blocking up a mob of cattle we were feeding out, admiring the twittery birds & their songs, lizards scampering away, enjoying the cool under the tall Moretan Bay Ash (or whatever timber) listening to cicadas, & so on.

Watching the cute way the heifers noses wiggled as they tore grass off. One of the other blokes, as we happened to ride closer together, for a brief exchange of conversation & an update on any instructions the boss may have for us, he grasped the whip handle that hung from the front of his right shoulder (he always kept his whip looped over his right) & said “Was just looking at what we’re doing, coz X (I forget the actual number) years ago, at this exact moment, I was going ashore at [unpronouceable Borneo place name I can’t remember])

One of those moment that makes you think & reflect.

m0nty
m0nty
November 27, 2022 5:33 pm

Bob, I would not come within cooee of the Catbutz. I like clean running water, sewerage works and wifi. I doubt living with a bunch of smelly unwashed preppers would be fun. At least not after the mould sets in.

Zipster
November 27, 2022 5:34 pm

or know if there was any follow up to see if those getting myocardia or strokes were injected correctly?

afaik didnt actually matter, the lipid nano particles will penetrate everything like ghosts who walk

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 5:34 pm

All the left’s campaigns, obsessions, talking points, dirty tricks seem to be imported from the US

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 5:35 pm

Bruce, thanks for the tip. I will look out for those books. As an aside, way back when, urine was the only thing that would also bleach leather. A white leather outfit was only for the wealthy. Stinky though. lol.

Rabz, re your “Modern Life is a vacuum, I give you Karen’s gotta Karen;

‘Do I have legal ground to sue?’: Karen accuses neighbor’s bees of trespassing and stealing from her flowers
I swear, Karens just live for lawsuits. This one seems to think she actually has a compelling case here.

This thread was posted to Reddit’s r/F***YouKaren subreddit by u/Sasquatch4600, who shared Karen’s strongly worded letter. Essentially, her neighbor is a beekeeper who harvests honey and sells it at the nearby market. This greedy Karen feels that she deserves some sort of a cut considering that the bees will occasionally fly into her garden and “steal” pollen and nectar from her flowers. She literally draws a direct comparison between this scenario and one in which a dog would trespass and “steal balls or tools” from someone’s lawn. Hopefully, someone out there has the patience to tell this woman that these two scenarios are very much not one and the same.

Bob, Southern Tablelands. A .308 would add a lot of texture to the Bunny burgers!

WolfmanOz
November 27, 2022 5:36 pm

calli says:
November 27, 2022 at 5:20 pm
“Hope always defeats hate”.
Obama’s MiniMe.

What can the poor young man you flattened and walked away from scot free hope for? What can the poor buggers shot with rubber bullets at the shrine hope for? And the people who lost their jobs and their businesses under your evil and repressive covid crap hope for?

You utter, depraved creature of the dark. You wouldn’t know “hope” if you tripped over it and it bit you on your skinny bum. You would probably want to imprison it.

One day Andrews will get his just desserts . . .

Someone who has pissed off so many people, including those in how own party, will eventually come a cropper. Someone that evil and corrupt will be exposed.

It might be a few years off, but I honestly believe karma can be a bitch and for Andrews it will eventually come for him.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 5:36 pm

Tarakan was an expensive, and ultimately pointless, mess.

Tarakan, and the rest of that whole capaign was largely fought to show that the Australian Army was “still in the game” and give Australia a seat in any peace conference involving the South Pacific.

Vicki
Vicki
November 27, 2022 5:36 pm

Early on in the Covid 19 “pandemic” I watched a video by a research doctor who I think was either Swiss/Austrian or maybe German. who demonstrated that if an MRNA vaccine was injected into the blood stream, rather than into the muscle, it could break up and some particles travel and lodge in organs such as the heart or brain causing inflammation and damage.

Mem, there were many of us who were concerned during those first injections about the methodology & the fact that so many giving injections had little training. However, it is pretty clear that the spike protein vaccine did not necessarily remain in the muscle, whether properly aspirated or not. The very early Japanese research showed clearly that the spike protein was showing up in various organs – including the ovaries.

Why some people endured adverse reactions is still unknown. It may be due, as many speculate, to different batches of vaccines, improper temperature conditions, different immune reactions of individuals and many many other factors. The latest evidence from whistleblowers further suggests extremely poor production methodology – due, no doubt, to the haste of the production.

It is a complete tragedy – the true dimensions of which may not be known for years.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:36 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 5:22 pm
Tarakan was an expensive, and ultimately pointless, mess.

Wasn’t that bad. The political imperative was very powerful too: we as a responsible post-WW2 power doing good things for our neighbours. Plus the intention to keep the Americans sweet by being bright and bushytailed, even if they didn’t want us around. Tarakan, sir yes sir! It was the same in Gulf War II. Got to keep our sugar daddy happy, which in WW2 was a guy called Doug.

Tarakan was invaded for the airfield, which the Japanese had constructed so poorly that it was effectively useless. Sending the troops to rescue the prisoners held nearby, at Sandakan, would have been more useful. The 1st Australian Parachute Battalion was prepared for a jump there, but MacArthur would not provide the aircraft. But he made enough landing ships and craft available to put a heavily reinforced brigade ashore on Tarakan.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:36 pm

then landed 2 divisions in Darwin in a next stage

Before marching southwards and impounding around twenty wallabies in a hastily constructed “rehousing facility”.

CL always had a habit of cutting through the bull droppings. 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 5:38 pm

The Americans also regarded our offensives against Aitape, Wewak, New Britain and Bougainville as “expensive, and ultimately pointless mess[es]”. They weren’t. Instead they were all about the local geopolitics of who controlled what and who had sway in the SW Pacific. Which Canberra was entirely aware of at the time. On the plus side the casualties were roughly 1 Aussie per 10 Japs throughout all those campaigns. A cost which is sad, but in the realm of principalities and powers a reasonable one.

There’s another aspect which isn’t much discussed. Which is what happens if we didn’t thoroughly defeat the Japs in Bougainville, New Britain and Northern New Guinea. If we’d done as MacArthur wanted, which is to contain the Japanese in place, as the US Army had been doing before we took over, then at the end of the war there’d’ve been a quarter million Japanese in the PNG-Bougainville zone. They were already farming and having kids with the locals. Would they have all left on our say so? I don’t think so. But defeated decisively they accepted surrender and repatriation.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 5:39 pm

November 27, 2022 at 5:28 pm
EMERGENCY – China Has Erupted – REVOLUTION!!!

If a mainland Chinaman is shouting give me liberty or five me death, there is a problem. Lets hope for revolution that sparks a wave and destroys all Leftards.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 5:39 pm

*give

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:40 pm

m0ntysays:
November 27, 2022 at 5:33 pm
Bob, I would not come within cooee of the Catbutz. I like clean running water, sewerage works and wifi

All of which need reliable, continuous electricity. Good luck with that, with TaliDan looking to get out of the coal generation business. Or didn’t you comprehend those second order effects of unreliable electricity? Idiot.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:41 pm

Razey – the chicom fascist regime is an inexcusable obscenity crying out to be overthrown.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:42 pm

miltonfsays:
November 27, 2022 at 5:34 pm
All the left’s campaigns, obsessions, talking points, dirty tricks seem to be imported from the US

As are the fascist leftard talking points that m0nty=fa perpetually bores us with here.

MatrixTransform
November 27, 2022 5:42 pm

Predictions on this page are calculated based on the group voting tickets lodged by each party. It is assumed all votes are above-the-line votes, but the table below shows the actual rates by party. Predictions should be treated as a guide only.

Percentage vote counted:
Western Metropolitan Region — 20.78%
Northern Metropolitan Region — 21.69%

etc

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 5:44 pm

Rabzsays:
November 27, 2022 at 5:41 pm
Razey – the chicom fascist regime is an inexcusable obscenity crying out to be overthrown.

We had a chance here to do the same. The fuckwits want more. I think all Labor supports should be sent to live in China.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:45 pm

I would not come within cooee of the Catbutz. I like clean running water, sewerage works and wifi. I doubt living with a bunch of smelly unwashed preppers would be fun. At least not after the mould sets in

Yet again, the comment above displays a total cluelessness about the realities of modern existence (as gifted to us by collectivists).

Don’t go a changin’, mUttley, you big large preposterous personage! 🙂

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 27, 2022 5:47 pm

I don’t claim to know what housewives from Vaucluse think (or rather, feel) about housing affordability, but their proud new local member HRH Princess Allegra delivered her views on it before the election. The solution, she assured the SMH, was not restricting negative gearing (after all,the people she mixes with would think they were hard up if they only had three investment properties). Rather, it was greater housing density – but not of course in Wentworth. Those bogans, rednecks, slopes and lebwogs in the Western suburbs wanting backyards for their disgusting prole spawn to play in? How dare they!

Meanwhile, here are your taxes at work on the GayBC breathlessly reporting the Pride festival in Hay:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-27/riverina-rainbow-on-the-plains-pride-festival/101702918

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:51 pm

Razey, the fisk used to comment about the sheer pointlessness of taking the chicoms at their word.

“We give you higher living standards, you don’t object to us controlling every aspect (and yes, that would be every aspect) of your existences.”

And yeh verily, here we are. Exported to “the West” via diseased Bat.

Weld your doors shut, peoples. (Cue very spooky muzak…) They are coming for us. ?)

Indolent
Indolent
November 27, 2022 5:51 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 5:52 pm

MacArthur would not provide the aircraft.

He was doing that with all logistics, especially landing craft and supply vessels. Canberra learned an expensive lesson about supply and shipping availability in that phase of the war. Who owns the pipe calls the tune.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 27, 2022 5:53 pm

Razey says:
November 27, 2022 at 5:13 pm

Andrews’ third term will be a giant fuck you to everyone who doesn’t support his mad Belt and Road, CCP-style ideology.

As long as the borders remain open there is little that sad sack of shit can really do.

Andrews already deserves a medal for services to the NSW real estate industry.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:54 pm

Bruce of N

there’d’ve been a quarter million Japanese in the PNG-Bougainville zone. They were already farming and having kids with the locals. Would they have all left on our say so? I don’t think so.

Plenty of Aussie soldiers available willing to “encourage” them onto a repatriation ship with the point of a bayonet. IIRC, there was one soldier on Bougainville who found out after the war ended that his father and brother had both died as prisoners of the Japanese (the father lost at sea when his prison ship was sunk, the brother executed in Borneo, having been caught making contact with the local resistance).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 5:55 pm

They are coming for us

Will you stop linking to that photo Rabz please?
He reminds me of a Vogon.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 5:56 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 5:52 pm
MacArthur would not provide the aircraft.

He was doing that with all logistics, especially landing craft and supply vessels.

Yet he made the landing ships and craft available for Tarakan, a much bigger commitment/

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 5:56 pm

I would not come within cooee of the Catbutz

Munty’s anti-semitism showing again.
The Kibbutz was set up to prepare and build the great State of Israel as quickly as possible. They were the equivalent of an old fashioned Amish Barn Raising that went on for a few decades. Everyone was given a job to suit their abilities. The old looked after the children, the young and strong built the infrastructure and/or were involved in agriculture. It was never a communist system as it was not meant to last forever.
Of course there were malingerers but they were soon dealt with. You would know all about Malingering munty. Actually, that is a good name for you, Malingering munty.
Anyway, that is enough of my time for you munt. Getting bored with the usual suspects were you?

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 5:57 pm

WokDoctor:

The MRH90 & Tiger have been colossal failures apparently. He thinks there’s too much of a bias to Euro platforms that work well in cooler gentler countryside’s of northern Europe but not so the hot arid or tropical climates our boys work in the north.

Do we really need helicopters?
For the cost they don’t give much back, unless you’re talking about aeromedical transport and heavy lift resupply. In which case, the Osprey would be better, yes?
Bringing these fragile rotary wing aircraft into a battle zone dominated by cheap AAMissiles appears to me to be folly of the highest order.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 5:58 pm

bees will “occasionally” fly into her garden and “steal” pollen

Shortly before “unintentionally” dumping it all over my drying white laundry. 😕

WolfmanOz
November 27, 2022 6:00 pm

Pogria says:
November 27, 2022 at 4:46 pm
Thanks Wolfman.

Do look at the link I posted. The anomaly is in the first thirty seconds. I reckon you’ll see it. ?

I can’t find your post/link.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 6:00 pm

Bruce – life is too short to waste on trigger warnings, I tells ya! 🙂

m0nty
m0nty
November 27, 2022 6:03 pm

I have watched many videos of cookers and their compounds, both in the ACT and NZ. Most of it seems to either be living out of station wagons or setting up painfully amateurish houses with walls made of milk crates and Glad Wrap. Literally, I am not joking.

Go live like a zombie if you want, you’re welcome to the dysentery and salmonella.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 6:03 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

(Not the first time I’ve taken on Americans, we did this once with a Oz vs US 7 on 7 game of Adventurer Kings, which was an early PBEM game. We Aussies splatted the Yanks, they were quite unhappy about it. There’s still an AK community going.)

Did you ever try Atomic Games “World at War” series ‘Stalingrad’?

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 6:04 pm

Wolfman,

here it is

See if you can find the anomaly. It’s in the first 30 seconds or so. Lots of great nostalgia throughout.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 6:05 pm

Plenty of Aussie soldiers available willing to “encourage” them onto a repatriation ship with the point of a bayonet.

BJ – No, that would not be the case. We had about three divisions vs many more Japanese. Most of our offensives were at about 1:2 against…which we won due to good supply, tactics and support.

Once the war ended the West wanted nothing more of war. Our population wanted no more war. So if the Japanese in PNG and Bougainville were disinclined to go home voluntarily the politics would leave them there. Canberra couldn’t dislodge them by ourselves, and the American would not assist us. It would be a fait d’accompli and the Japs would be still there now.

That would make an interesting alternate history SF – a nation in 2022 of a couple million Japanese/Melanesians in New Britain and Bougainville. You could have fun with this idea!

Hugh
Hugh
November 27, 2022 6:07 pm

I once shot a bunny with a .308, just to see what would happen. It was with a 130 grain hollow point at about ten metres. Bunny ended up practically inside-out. Not much edible left.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 6:08 pm

Hey Calli, if you are around,
this one if for your collection.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 6:08 pm

It suddenly came to me. After the amazing makeover, Luigi the Unbelievable is channelling this guy. The Gravitas Goggles tell it all.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 6:08 pm

“is”, dammit!

entropy
entropy
November 27, 2022 6:11 pm

the V-22 Osprey is more a transport craft. we have chinooks to do that job. the Osprey has much better range though.
Anyway, completely different use than a Tiger attack helicopter.

But agree generally, why the hell are we buying European kit, barring the fantastic dining experience procurement manage to on their jaunts to Paris.

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 6:12 pm

Evatt- yuk.

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 6:13 pm

Didn’t Des Deskperson find Evatt’s grave in canbra? With a UN symbol on it.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 27, 2022 6:13 pm

Actually, that is a good name for you, Malingering munty.
Well said Pogria.
Munty puts so much “mal” into this place. He’s of no value.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 6:13 pm

m0ntysays:
November 27, 2022 at 6:03 pm
I have watched many videos of cookers and their compounds, both in the ACT and NZ. Most of it seems to either be living out of station wagons or setting up painfully amateurish houses with walls made of milk crates and Glad Wrap. Literally, I am not joking.

Go live like a zombie if you want, you’re welcome to the dysentery and salmonella.

m0nty=fa displays the utter ignorance of a pampered city dweller about other styles of living.

When the power ceases to be reliable, he is in for a real shock.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 6:14 pm

Gravitas Goggles

🙂

Bluey
Bluey
November 27, 2022 6:16 pm

Elections are an especially irritating process, since this is the time where it becomes most obvious how the will of the people is either manipulated, misused or just completely ignored.

But everybody still lines up to participate in the farce, because they’ll be fined if they don’t.

The fine is the cattle prod, zapping the masses into the polling booths where their vote is chopped up, refined and passed through a system so lathered in twisted bureaucracy, where it actually goes is never certain. Imagine dropping a marble into one of eight tubes, which beneath the surface point can be seen intertwining and overlapping each other, which tube is which and where the marble went becomes impossible to know. You wake up the next morning and TV tells you that this many marbles went into this box, and that many into another, the results and how quickly they were counted seems implausible but everybody just nods along, because nobody is sure what the hell is actually going on or why. That’s how voting in Australia feels.
I suppose it’s easier for the average head to subscribe to system propaganda –your vote is powerful!– than it is to acknowledge the reality of the process.

From a user on Gab. I can’t really tell you he’s not right. It does look a lot like your vote ends up in the uniparty, no matter what you actually think.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 6:16 pm

Des Deskperson

Another legend in the league of the Constantine.

Used to write for Crikey before emigrating to “right of centre” blogues. Like the latter, much missed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 6:17 pm

BoN

Those Australian soldiers took a long time to bring home. Japanese refusing repatriation would have extended that time. The order to Fix Bayonets would have been obeyed (even putting aside the desire of those who lost family members in the camps for revenge).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 6:17 pm

It suddenly came to me. After the amazing makeover, Luigi the Unbelievable is channelling this guy. The Gravitas Goggles tell it all.

I always thought he was channeling John Curtin?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 27, 2022 6:18 pm

Calli I think Albo looks more like this guy the stunned mullet/guppy clenched teetha ‘n’ all as portrayed by Joe Flynn — Cap’n Binghamton with his Treasurer being the irrepressible Gomer Pyle

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 6:18 pm

Yes Des’s canbra stories were great.

WolfmanOz
November 27, 2022 6:20 pm

Pogria says:
November 27, 2022 at 6:04 pm
Wolfman,

here it is

See if you can find the anomaly. It’s in the first 30 seconds or so. Lots of great nostalgia throughout.

“Is it safe?”

Rabz
November 27, 2022 6:20 pm

It does look a lot like your vote ends up in the uniparty, no matter what you actually think.

Not if you vote “none of the above”, i.e. informal.

Or as good ol’ Arks might opine, “dick ‘n’ balls”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 6:20 pm

First preference:
ALP 37%
LNP 35%

Seats won:
ALP 52
LNP 25

Seems an almost impossible task to unseat Labor with electoral boundaries that produce this result.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 6:23 pm

Makka:

Precisely Bob. And how did that work out for Germany?

Not real well, but I was responding to the point I thought you were making – i.e. that being a major trading partner inferred some kind of immunity from invasion.
Also, I’m on record here as stating the effort Germany made to invade other countries would have been better spent in mechanising its farms and the Ploesti oilfields. Even giving every German farmer a tractor would have doubled food output. (Fact free statistic – plucked from Bobs arse, but arguable.)

P
P
November 27, 2022 6:23 pm

Lavender Hill Mob.

THE LAVENDER HILL MOB – Official Trailer – Vintage Classic

THE LAVENDER HILL MOB features an early screen appearance from Audrey Hepburn and was included on the British Film Institute’s list of the 100 Best British Films of the 20th Century.

Crossie
Crossie
November 27, 2022 6:25 pm

A few commenters here have noted that young voters having been inculcated in schools with the climate change religion are voting Labor and Greens. The data from Victorian election tell us that inner city and richer suburbs vote Labor and Green while country, outer suburbs and working class suburbs have increased their Libs vote.

To me this suggest the cleavage is along class lines. The moneyed classes can afford the higher costs of green indulgences while the self-employed, poorer and working classes don’t have the spare cash option.

As well as the climate boondoggle costing the poor the most, they along with the self-employed bore the greatest cost of the COVID lockdowns. Libs are wilfully ignoring these facts and, as they are also mostly from the monied classes, do not identify or represent their voters’ interests.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 6:25 pm

Went to see a great film this afternoon, one I heartily recommend. A Danish film called Margrete, Queen of the North, about the medieval Queen who formed the Kalmar Union between Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

The film was historically accurate, the acting excellent and mercifully the film did not contain one ounce of wokeness, the film makers didn’t include black actors so as to try and gaslight the audience with the impression that Scandinavia, indeed Northern Europe, was a very multicultural place back in the 1300s because as we know, it wasn’t.

A true life Game of Thrones….excellent.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 27, 2022 6:26 pm

My smallest calibre is a .308

I think that’s the one Hairy was learning to fire at that Louisiana firing range. Huge cartridges.

His shoulder is a lot better now. 🙂

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 27, 2022 6:27 pm

Crossiesays:
November 27, 2022 at 6:25 pm

That’s the fact.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 6:27 pm

Wolfman,
yes, it is safe!
I will give you one more chance, you old movie aficionado you!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 6:27 pm

Did you ever try Atomic Games “World at War” series ‘Stalingrad’?

Winston – No, but I played several PBEM games of Victory, which were fun. The premise was forty separate countries in wider Europe each with the same basic domestic industry and resources, more or less. You could then choose to use Soviet, American, British or German units.

One game I was Saudi Arabia invading Hungary up and over the Black Sea, with panzers on a supply line from hell. I was allied to Egypt who had British units.

The SSi Gary Grigsby games like Pacific War, which I mentioned, War in Russia (epic) and Steel Panthers would do just fine today if they run on current machines. Steam may have them, they offered me Fantasy General the other day, which is an excellent strategy game. I don’t know if’d run on my machine though, but it was cheap.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 6:28 pm

Bob Sewellsays:
November 27, 2022 at 5:57 pm

Indeed Bob. My mate reckons drone swarms will seriously screw with air mobile units when they are mastered. We truly do live in interesting times.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 6:29 pm

Anchor,
I emailed Dover to let you have my email addy.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 6:30 pm

Evatt- yuk

Barking mad. Yet another reason why Australia was gifted with Ming the Merciless for as long as we were.

Ming will become a two minutes of hate figure in Australian schools very shortly, if he isn’t already.

Middle aged, white, conservative, monarchy respecting top hatted capitalist figure and his woife was a Dame.

My ol’ man was basically Menzies with an Italian surname.

An Australia now long gone.

Are we starting to miss it yet, peoples?

Rabz
November 27, 2022 6:32 pm

Speaking of Italianos, hey Pancho – stop pretending to be dead, Squire!

MatrixTransform
November 27, 2022 6:32 pm

live like a zombie if you want, you’re welcome to the dysentery and salmonella

well zombies are either dead, or un-dead and 100% fictional unless you’re the Night Stalker

in cartoon-land, dysentery and salmonella could only be imaginary problems that arise from being an un-dead type of zombie

and being a dead kind of zombie means that you cant shit and you cant die … mostly because you’re already dead

anyways mUnter, the causality is all arse-backwards
a comic-strip story-board where dysentery causes zombies would be far more believable

and there’s one more thing, ‘assuming the sale’ is great for jokes or convincing morons to buy things.
not so much for trying to appear credible, sensible, or reasonable

oh, you are serious?

in that case, poor mUnty, you are not simply a fuckwit

… you’re a victim of your own joke

Crossie
Crossie
November 27, 2022 6:33 pm

What I meant to add to my previous screed is that if young voters have been infected by their education to vote Labor and Greens then they would do so across all electorates not just in upper class and richer inner city electorates. That the young vote so in those electorates is because so do their parents.

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 6:33 pm

Libs are wilfully ignoring these facts and, as they are also mostly from the monied classes, do not identify or represent their voters’ interests.

yes I voted for the LP in the lower house just because it seemed like the best chance to kick out Andrews. Not from any expectations of Guy. Interesting analysis Crossie.

Also seems like a full on gerrymander in Vicco.

Finally, Andrews’ grotesque hope not hate or whatever sounds like one of those Soros astroturf jobs.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 6:35 pm

Not real well, but I was responding to the point I thought you were making – i.e. that being a major trading partner inferred some kind of immunity from invasion.

I’m inferring that the CCP has had plenty of time to learn from that terribly self destructive strategy 80+ years ago of starting a hot war with your biggest trading partners. And rightly reasoned from exhaustive study that doing a Nazi Germany again would destroy the country and the party. I think I’m on safe ground here.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 6:35 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
November 27, 2022 at 6:20 pm
First preference:
ALP 37%
LNP 35%

Seats won:
ALP 52
LNP 25

Seems an almost impossible task to unseat Labor with electoral boundaries that produce this result.

So what we have is actually a dictatorship.

Mater
November 27, 2022 6:36 pm

Bob, I would not come within cooee of the Catbutz. I like clean running water, sewerage works and wifi.

Yes, and you voted against maintaining such conveniences.

From the New York Times, an awakening for the dull. This is what happens:

https://youtu.be/nd3teNgUq8E

cohenite
November 27, 2022 6:36 pm

Fucking LNP: they got 35% of the popular vote cf to the liars’ 37%. The hunchback got 52 seats from his 37%; the LNP got 25 from their 35%.

The filth and the seals are the big winners. Conservatism doesn’t exist in this shit-hole in any meaningful way.

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 6:37 pm

Ming was a 2 minutes hate figure among certain members of my extended family 40 years ago.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 6:38 pm

Like the latter, much missed.

Agreed. He was dumped on during the lockdowns because he put up the APS line of “providing a workplace at home” ie. picking up the tab for a comfortable chair at the kitchen table.

It was all a b/s lockdown, so why not go for all it was worth?

Also missed, perennially, is the Deadman. And where has feelthebern got to? I’ve seen dear Faustus over at C.L.’s, so he’s still around.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 6:39 pm

And Gab. I really miss Gab.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 6:39 pm

Trust the science
Trust the VEC

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 6:41 pm

I had to laugh at all the pale narcissists at Bondi

Nude beaches sound great until you’re there. Bumped into a few around SW France in between getting dumped and generally pummeled.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 6:42 pm

cohenitesays:
November 27, 2022 at 6:36 pm
Fucking LNP: they got 35% of the popular vote cf to the liars’ 37%. The hunchback got 52 seats from his 37%; the LNP got 25 from their 35%.

The filth and the seals are the big winners. Conservatism doesn’t exist in this shit-hole in any meaningful way.

This will be a permanent Labor dictatorship. They can do whatever the fuck they want and people will still vote for it.

John H.
John H.
November 27, 2022 6:43 pm

Makkasays:
November 27, 2022 at 6:35 pm
Not real well, but I was responding to the point I thought you were making – i.e. that being a major trading partner inferred some kind of immunity from invasion.

I’m inferring that the CCP has had plenty of time to learn from that terribly self destructive strategy 80+ years ago of starting a hot war with your biggest trading partners. And rightly reasoned from exhaustive study that doing a Nazi Germany again would destroy the country and the party. I think I’m on safe ground here.

Nazi Germany went to war in a desperate attempt to save its economy. China going to war will have the opposite effect. It doesn’t have a blue water navy, every analysis I have read on an invasion of Taiwan paints a picture of China winning but at tremendous cost to hardware and personnel, effectively putting its military strength decades behind.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 6:44 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
November 27, 2022 at 6:20 pm
First preference:
ALP 37%
LNP 35%

Seats won:
ALP 52
LNP 25

Seems an almost impossible task to unseat Labor with electoral boundaries that produce this result.

But, but, but, m0nty=fa has assured us that only eeeeevviiiillll right wingers ever rort elections. Distributions and votes that lead to a leftard party being elected are pure as the driven snow.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 6:46 pm

Voting against the official candidate, or refusing to vote at all, is considered an act of treason, and those who do face the loss of their jobs and housing, along with extra surveillance.[17]

How far away is Sickotoria from this? Not far in my estimate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 6:48 pm

Doverbeach:

True, but you would never see a defence of, say, a father physically abusing his daughter simply on the grounds of say a ‘right to privacy’.

You would never see a defence of, say, a father physically abusing his daughter simply on the grounds of say a ‘right to privacy’ yet. Perhaps a son, if the father decided he was Gay and Minor Attracted.
I put nothing past the perverts on the Left.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 6:49 pm

Even giving every German farmer a tractor would have doubled food output. (Fact free statistic – plucked from Bobs arse, but arguable.)

I don’t have a reference, but I’ve read that claim elsewhere – German agriculture was very backward compared to British and American standards.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 6:50 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
November 27, 2022 at 6:26 pm
My smallest calibre is a .308

I think that’s the one Hairy was learning to fire at that Louisiana firing range. Huge cartridges.

His shoulder is a lot better now. ?

Compared to wha? It is only marginally larger than the stamndard 0.303 that many an Australian soldier (and school cadet) carried and fired.

I suspect that Hairy was trying out a 50 (half inch) caliber weapon, which is impressively large.

Fun fact, IIRC reading something I read many years ago, the USN produced an 8 inch round that was combined shell and propellant case into what looked like a very, very, veeerrrry large rifle bullet.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 6:50 pm

THE LAVENDER HILL MOB

In which Sir Alec says “You don’t need to see his identification” and “this isn’t the gold you’re looking for”?

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than Lavender Hill. Don’t go there.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 6:50 pm

Razey at 5:39 – yep, movement at the station apparently. Clock is ticking …

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 6:54 pm

The Time Machine is on … the new one, not the Rod Taylor one.

Always brings up ideas about the metaphysics of changing the past.

MatrixTransform
November 27, 2022 6:55 pm

Trust the science
Trust the VEC

of course … they get their data from your ABC

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 6:56 pm

2 Party preferred is bullshit. It gives 35% of the population NO SAY at all. This cannot continue.
Also need term limits to ensure despot fascists like Hunchback cannot maintain power. This will also avoid personality cults, like Hunchbacks.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 6:56 pm

I’m off to relax in front of Mathew Goode and ponder whether to have salad with my black and blue steak or turn it into a steak sandwich with the sourdough loaf I baked this morning.
Either way it will served with cheap but good red wine. I can’t afford the really good stuff.
Today is the third anniversary of my double knee replacement. Thank God I had it done before the Doctors and hospitals turned into Cybermen Facilities.
Back in a few hours if I don’t pass out!

Marg
November 27, 2022 7:00 pm

Some Cats might like to watch this excellent slide presentation and lecture by Gigi Foster (Prof Economics, UNSW).
It was recorded when she was here on the Sunshine Coast last week. The Q&A after was also very good.
https://rumble.com/v1wpgqc-the-tragedy-of-covid-19-lockdown-policies.html?s=09

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Rabz:

Modern life is a moral vacuum.

Perhaps a moral Roomba, Rabz?
With all the bright lights, noise, and gadgetry?
Seeing as we are into vacuous humour?

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 7:01 pm

In NSW they have optional preferential voting which is much better

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 7:02 pm

There you are Wolfman. Time travel movies. There have been a few.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 7:05 pm

Japanese refusing repatriation would have extended that time. The order to Fix Bayonets would have been obeyed

Oh yes. But without logistics supplied by the USN it’d be impossible. And the USN would not support post war police actions in the Pacific with the Dems in the White House.

Our guys had the basicest logistic train that MacArthur could get away with giving us. But it was a supply line which after the war would’ve ceased. No way could we sustain a multiple division offensive all by ourselves. And especially not if the remnant Japs managed to get supply from somewhere. (The scenario we’re talking about is one where we did as MacArthur ordered and contained the Japs in place, rather than assault them as we actually did.)

No one ever even bothered to plan to take Rabaul back there were so many Japs there. We managed to squeeze the Japs into the southern bit of Bougainville, and we evicted them from northern New Guinea. And our guys were stuffed by that time.

The Japs surrendered in those places because they were mentally defeated sufficiently to obey Hirohito’s order. If we’d not spent what we’d spent I don’t think that would’ve happened, since there was a lot of opposition on the ground to surrendering.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 7:10 pm

Pogria:

Bob, Southern Tablelands. A .308 would add a lot of texture to the Bunny burgers!

You’d need to find the bits, I fear.
Southern Tablelands would be a bit far for me from Barcaldine.

MatrixTransform
November 27, 2022 7:13 pm

terribly sorry
another typo

mUnty isn’t the victim

…he’s a the punch-line

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 7:14 pm

In NSW they have optional preferential voting which is much better

+?

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 7:15 pm

Met up with two friends this morning. One was up from Melbourne. She arrived on Friday, and she voted a week ago. She was completely shell shocked at the Vic election result. Her hatred for Dan Andrews and the Victorian Labor government knows no limit, she was once a Labor voter but over the last two and a half years has done a complete u-turn and she is now completely red pilled. Back in 2018 she hated Trump, now she loves him. She now votes UAP in the upper house and as she lives in Caulfield, she voted for David Southwick.

She said something that I’ve been thinking about and something that I wrote about on these pages last year. She believes people like us have to separate ourselves. There’s no future for us in mainstream society.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 7:15 pm

LOL WordPress doesn’t like the infinity symbol.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 7:16 pm

There you are Wolfman. Time travel movies.

Reminds me of a movie I once saw starring Klaus Kinski: Timestalkers. Here’s a bit of the story:

“Under photo enhancement, McKenzie notices Cole in the background of the picture and identifies the gun Cole is carrying as a .357 Magnum from the 1980s. Despite this, chemical and spectroscopic testing indicates that the photograph is at least 100 years old. McKenzie becomes convinced that Cole is a time traveler.”

The story goes on, it’s fun. I think it was on video when I watched it 30 odd years ago and I’ve never seen it on TV since. But I remember it to’ve been a nice little time travel SF movie.

Quite a few other fine time travel movies are in the vaults.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 7:18 pm

Rabz:

I would not come within cooee of the Catbutz. I like clean running water, sewerage works and wifi. I doubt living with a bunch of smelly unwashed preppers would be fun. At least not after the mould sets in

I was going to reply, Rabz, but just shook my head, blew my nose, and gave my arse a scratching.
All these things were more productive of my time than pointing out the stupidity of Munty’s reply.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 7:23 pm

She believes people like us have to separate ourselves.

How? We have to pay for the Leftard bullshit policies.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 7:24 pm

Chuckle. The problem with the Eloi is a simple one.

Where did all those fine textiles come from, without a sign of a loom?

Nice bamboo structures, but.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 7:24 pm

“How? We have to pay for the Leftard bullshit policies.”

Well…aren’t you going to Japan?

Indolent
Indolent
November 27, 2022 7:25 pm
calli
calli
November 27, 2022 7:25 pm

The most interesting idea: we can observe the past only, but we can participate in the future.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 7:26 pm

The problem with the Eloi is a simple one.

They’re quite tasty?

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 7:27 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
November 27, 2022 at 7:24 pm
“How? We have to pay for the Leftard bullshit policies.”

Well…aren’t you going to Japan?

Easy enough to say ‘separate yourself’. But people who are staying here need to know what you mean.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 27, 2022 7:28 pm

In other news, today I interviewed and approved a new Cat Sitter at our place for Attapuss while we are in Brisbane next weekend and for London in January. Took her around, introduced her to scaredy cat hiding, showed her his hiding places and all the gen on looking after him, and quirks of the place (all places have quirks, where a special trick is needed to make something work). She is a very savvy young woman from South America originally, but living in Sydney, having just returned from Germany, where she was working for six months. It is so depressing there at present, she told us, everyone is is in a panic and feeling depressed about the cold and how to keep heating their homes. She thinks people will get by because they are all ‘making arrangements’ but she felt she wanted to high tail it back to Sydney regardless. I am taking my warm wooly clothes to the UK and a big coat.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 7:28 pm

It is 2022 after all.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 7:29 pm

You’d need to find the bits, I fear.

Just like Easter eggs but with the bunny.

m0nty
m0nty
November 27, 2022 7:29 pm

She said something that I’ve been thinking about and something that I wrote about on these pages last year. She believes people like us have to separate ourselves. There’s no future for us in mainstream society.

Off you scoot then, see ya wouldn’t wanna be ya.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 7:30 pm

Wolfman,
during my break from watching Matthew Goode, the puzzle I set you is, there is a picture of an old fashioned Dentists’ chair about 30 seconds into the the vid. Name the Dentist in the picture next to the chair.
I was surprised, but I reckon the person who made the clip has a very wicked sense of humour.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 7:33 pm

Monty – If all the productive people separated themselves the progressives would be doing Hunger Games with penknives. Who else do you think feeds you?

MatrixTransform
November 27, 2022 7:37 pm

time travel movies

Looper

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 7:37 pm

They’re quite tasty?

Lol. That “long pig” comment had traction.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 7:37 pm

First preference:
ALP 37%
LNP 35%

Seats won:
ALP 52
LNP 25

Seems an almost impossible task to unseat Labor with electoral boundaries that produce this result.
For a start, your figures are wrong.
There’s no LNP in Victoria, the Liberal Party got 29%, the Nationals got 6%.
Labor was backed by the vast majority of the Minor and Fake Parties, so around 60% got as result they were fairly happy with.
See Upper House results.
Apart from the Greens, who did poorly compared to the Lower House,
Parties got a result in line with their level of support.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 7:40 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 7:05 pm
Japanese refusing repatriation would have extended that time. The order to Fix Bayonets would have been obeyed

Oh yes. But without logistics supplied by the USN it’d be impossible. And the USN would not support post war police actions in the Pacific with the Dems in the White House.

Not a police action, merely completing the task (mentioned in the surrender document, IIRC) of repatriating enemy and friendly soldiers asap.

The British helped with some aircraft carriers as transports, their feelings towards the Japanese were about as tender as the Australian feelings. Fix bayonets!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 27, 2022 7:41 pm

She believes people like us have to separate ourselves. There’s no future for us in mainstream society.

To some extent, yes. Finding friends you can be at ease with becomes more important.
But prepping in the hills? Mostly no. I think some engagement showing fight against the zeitgeist is still important; people can change, as your friend actually demonstrates.
Also, many are too locked in economically to give it all away yet.
Finding a source of personal strength and calmness, a meditation if you like on the transience of life, and a historical perspective over one’s own ancestry and lifetime, is also helpful. It’s easy to see why people are drawn to Buddhism. It’s not for me though. I think hobbies are great idea, although I don’t really have one, except for Arthurian meanderings. I was quite taken by the young stage director on the plane doing his very good knitting. We didn’t have anything political in common, but he clearly had a very good sense of purpose and calmness stemming from this hobby and mixing with a group of knitters, as he said he did.

I recall Helen from up north saying that post-retirement in town she had started going to a dance class and meeting some friendly women. That’s what I did, and they’ve been stalwart friends for 20 years now.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 7:42 pm

Entropy:

Anyway, completely different use than a Tiger attack helicopter.

Yes, but my point was that the tasking you’d give a Tiger would be more cheaply done by infantry with Stingers or closer ranged crew served weapons.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 7:43 pm

“Off you scoot then, see ya wouldn’t wanna be ya.”

Fuck off slug.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 27, 2022 7:43 pm

She believes people like us have to separate ourselves.

How? We have to pay for the Leftard bullshit policies.

We have to see ourselves as part of a separate culture. We are anyway. We believe in ideas like Truth and Justice, the mainstream increasingly doesn’t. We do what minority groups like the Amish and the early Christians do and did. Try to avoid having your beliefs contaminated by exposure to a bad culture.

It’s why m0nty is so useful here. An ongoing example of mindless stupidity.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 7:43 pm

B o N

The Japs surrendered in those places because they were mentally defeated sufficiently to obey Hirohito’s order. If we’d not spent what we’d spent I don’t think that would’ve happened, since there was a lot of opposition on the ground to surrendering.

Sorry, just got to this bit. Do you really think that the US position on recalcitrant Japanese forces would have been tender and loving? As for the UK, Slim offered to provide any Japanese who felt shamed by the surrender whatever facility they needed to commit seppuku. There was not a lot of love for Japanese at that time.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 7:44 pm

“But people who are staying here need to know what you mean.”

Anyone with any intelligence knows what I mean.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 7:46 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
November 27, 2022 at 7:44 pm
“But people who are staying here need to know what you mean.”

Anyone with any intelligence knows what I mean.

As said above, unless fully functioning communities outside the system like the Amish, you will never be separate.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 7:48 pm

Entropy:

But agree generally, why the hell are we buying European kit, barring the fantastic dining experience procurement manage to on their jaunts to Paris.

That’s a very good point.
Our policies on European weapons procurement seems to be taking second place to diplomatic postings and other bullshit. I’ve heard here some absolute corkers about education for dependents, jobs for positions in European Industries management, that should have been investigated by the Feds if not ASIO, but have been treated as just things that happen.
Our whole diplomatic effort OS has become a trough that is supped from at the expense of our serving members, and needs a Bloody Good Purge!

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 7:49 pm

“We have to see ourselves as part of a separate culture. We are anyway. We believe in ideas like Truth and Justice, the mainstream increasingly doesn’t. We do what minority groups like the Amish and the early Christians do and did. Try to avoid having your beliefs contaminated by exposure to a bad culture.”

Yep.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 7:49 pm

Nazi Germany went to war in a desperate attempt to save its economy

Not having it. The nayzees went to war because they could, as all set out in “Me Stroogle“*.

Joe the Fish was allegedly surprised about Barbarossa being unleashed on his house sized backside.

Just exactly how many explicit warnings did the moustachioed numbskull need?

*Trigger warning – one of the greatest monsters in human history

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 7:49 pm

Not a police action, merely completing the task

Evicting 200,000 Japanese soldiers in Rabaul, Wewak and Bougainville might be more than a mere task. They had fairly substantive supplies, ammunition and weapons.

They were also entirely self sufficient in food and water as at any one time half of them were assigned to growing crops.

Fortunately in this timeline they surrendered and were repatriated.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 7:50 pm

Saint Paul knew what it meant. He wrote a letter to the Christians in Rome, setting it all out. We recognise it these days as being in Chapter 12.

I’m staying put. Others can do as they wish.

rosie
rosie
November 27, 2022 7:52 pm

The Amish aren’t ‘fully functioning separate communities’, they use modern medicine, can fly on planes and use cars and rely on ousiders for income.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
November 27, 2022 7:53 pm

My father was posted at Balikpapan at the end of WW2. Most of the time was babysitting Japanese POW’s. All the fight had gone out of the Japanese by the time they had reached Balikpapan. For cigarettes or food they would do your washing, clean your rifle etc.
The worst thing for my father at that time is that he was young (22) and single. It wasn’t until mid 1946 that he was repatriated back to Brisbane.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 7:53 pm

“To some extent, yes. Finding friends you can be at ease with becomes more important.

Correct.

But prepping in the hills? Mostly no.

Agree and I’m not advocating that.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 27, 2022 7:55 pm

its farms and the Ploesti oilfields. Even giving every German farmer a tractor would have doubled food output. (Fact free statistic – plucked from Bobs arse, but arguable.)

Ploesti oilfields were Romanian. Hitler, like most Socialists, believed in the diminishing markets theory, and thus did not believe in international trade. Germany barely had enough fuel for its existing vehicle fleet, let alone adding more vehicles on the farm.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 7:57 pm

Bruce of N

Give it up, it never happened, and never would have. Recall that the US, had just dropped to atom bombs on Japan. They were not going to let some recalcitrants in the South Pacific spoil the party. They would have become target practice for returning units of the 3rd/5th and 7th Fleets.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 7:58 pm

The Amish are interested in community. You stay close to your roots. Technology is fine as long as you don’t leave the community. Even the language is separate to the point of being archaic German.

This was all explained to me in Lancaster when I visited them. There are levels of strictness, but it all boiled down to a simple principle. Stay or leave.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 7:58 pm

two atom bombs …

m0nty
m0nty
November 27, 2022 7:59 pm

Monty – If all the productive people separated themselves the progressives would be doing Hunger Games with penknives. Who else do you think feeds you?

Cranky and her mate aren’t productive people. They can go Galt all they like, no loss to the economy there.

The working class still vote Labor in huge numbers. Spivs and landlords vote Liberal, but there just aren’t enough of them to support a majority government.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Amish aren’t communal, or rather aren’t collectivists, they’re sole traders in private enterprise.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 8:01 pm

She is a very savvy young woman from South America originally, but living in Sydney, having just returned from Germany, where she was working for six months

Uh. Lizzie.

That sort of uncheckable background is the exact MO of almost every single conwoman under 35 in this country. I’d be looking really hard at any referee reports she happened to wave in front of you. Not telling you what to do.

Of course she seems ‘very savvy’. That’s their schtick, and ‘(no offence) elderly couple from Vaucluse looking for cat sitter for extended period of time’ is absolutely manna from heaven for these people.

Let me guess. Dressed really well. Articulate, can hold a conversation. Superficial knowledge of a range of subjects older Vaucluse people would be interested in. Has also travelled overseas, apparently. Tick. Tick. Tick. Tick.

Best of luck.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 8:04 pm

Sorry, just got to this bit. Do you really think that the US position on recalcitrant Japanese forces would have been tender and loving?

BJ – If you read the history it is completely apparent what the respective policies were.

The US policy was to maintain a cordon around essential bases and do no more than that. That was the situation when we took over in Aitape and Bougainville. Then our guys put into practice our doctrine, which was offensive pressure. In Wewak we went to total victory, completely clearing the northern coast, and the inland, of Japanese forces. In Bougainville we compressed them into the southern peninsula. In New Britain, because the Japanese were much stronger we restricted them to the Gazelle Peninsula in the north. There was no way we could defeat what they had though.

By August 1945 the US was done, there’s simply no way they’d police up strong residual Japanese in meaningless places like Bougainville if they decided to resist. Fortunately the pressure Blamey put on the ones in our area was enough that the decided not to resist. It would be interesting to speculate what would’ve happened if a different decision was made by the local Japanese generals.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 8:05 pm

It wasn’t until mid 1946 that he was repatriated back to Brisbane.

My GF wasn’t demobbed till 1946 as well. He went back to Sydney though. He enlisted in early 1940 so spent nearly the whole war in uniform, North Africa and Pacific broken by a spell at Adelaide River.

Hugh
Hugh
November 27, 2022 8:06 pm

Cassie of Sydney:
November 27, 2022 at 7:15 pm

She believes people like us have to separate ourselves. There’s no future for us in mainstream society.

I agree, but do you have any thoughts as to how we might go about this effectively?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 8:07 pm

They would have become target practice for returning units of the 3rd/5th and 7th Fleets.

Yes they would, keeping in mind the amount of US Marines killed in the island campaigns.

Expending surplus ammo from the big guns. It would have been like Milo Cricket, everyone gets a turn. In any event, Bear Necessities nailed it just above.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 8:08 pm

“Cranky and her mate aren’t productive people. They can go Galt all they like, no loss to the economy there.”

LOL…..I’d say I’m a lot more productive than you fuckwit. You’re no contributor to the economy.

Go read your copy of the Protocols.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Collectivists are another branch(es) of Anabaptist; Hutterites.
However, they aren’t ‘off-grid’ per se. They live & operate as communist collectives, & deal with the ‘English’ world for all the things they aren’t able to produce as farmers.

They’re utterly fascinating in their (women’s) collective knowledge of preserving, cooking, preserving, storing, preserving, growing vegetables, preserving, etc.

m0nty
m0nty
November 27, 2022 8:08 pm

If you want to start a new sect, I’d suggest emulating the Quakers. Now there are some righteous people.

Perhaps call yourselves the Quokkas.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 8:08 pm

Haha, Monty thinks the working class are productive people rather than train drivers and pot hole fillers.

No son, the productive class are farmers and miners. Which you are riding on the back of every day, like a parasite.

John H.
John H.
November 27, 2022 8:09 pm

The Nazi Fiscal Cliff: Unsustainable Financial
Practices before World War II

Because of these conditions, private savings banks played a large
part in refinancing long-term government debt as well as investing
in rearmament industries. Their holding of government debt in
1939 was 6.5 times higher than it was in 1933.35

Despite Schacht’s efforts, Germany was unable to keep up
with its import demands and Hitler dictated that the shortages hit
normal Germans instead of hindering the rearmament effort. In an
urgent letter written in January 1939, Schacht told Hitler,
“Especially in the field of daily requirements for the home and
clothing, the lack of supply and above all the decline of quality is
most evident.”68 The analysis of labor historian Tim Mason puts it
best
The whole economic system was so strained that
any one hold-up immediately caused another. These
multiple shortages, which constituted a kind of
negative multiplier effect, were the chief
distinguishing mark of the situation just before the
outbreak of war… it was a general economic
crisis.6

Mater
November 27, 2022 8:10 pm

The working class still vote Labor in huge numbers. Spivs and landlords vote Liberal, but there just aren’t enough of them to support a majority government.

Yet last night:

m0nty
November 26, 2022 at 11:32 pm
The basic analysis of the Vic election is that the Libs got a massive swing among working class north and west satellite suburbs, as befits their descent into racism and cookerism…

You really are a muppet, Monty.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 27, 2022 8:10 pm

Our new catsitter was over the moon about the mum currawong feeding her two squawking fledgies.
She had her phone out in an instant and was taking photos. I don’t think mum is going to be left to go hungry while we are away. It is amazing how much immediate joy a little wild nature can bring.

Rabz
November 27, 2022 8:11 pm

For poor ol’ Arks – Jet

When you were young and your heart
Was an open book …
You used to say live and let live
But if this ever changin’ woild
In which we’re existin’…
Makes you give in and cry
Say live and let die …

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 8:11 pm

OK Ed let’s work it your way.
The Libs got 29.7% of first preferences for 16 seats.
Labor got 37% for 52 seats.
Still badly skewed.
Optional preferential voting would stop this nonsense. Why in earth are we expected to allocate a preference to a party or individual that we would never willingly vote for.
Getting a bigger share of a fourth or fifth preference is no way to select a government.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 8:14 pm

Spivs and landlords

How naive. Spivs and landlords will vote for whoever gives them the best deal.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 8:15 pm

“If you want to start a new sect, I’d suggest emulating the Quakers.”

No fuckwit, nobody is suggesting “starting a new sect”…..you really are dumb arse.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 27, 2022 8:15 pm

Nazi Germany went to war in a desperate attempt to save its economy

Not having it. The nayzees went to war because they could, as all set out in “Me Stroogle“*.

Rabz,
Yes he was gunning for war because of his belief in autarky as a rational response to the irrational diminishing markets belief.

In the Hossbach Memorandum (1937) he indicated he needed to go to war between 43 and 45. In 39 it was estimated Germany had 3 months reserves of oil. Because of the totally fubared interference in the economy there were shortages of coal (because the DR could not get enough steel for new/renewed stock & track) and shortages of food. He needed coal from Silesia as well as the outputs from the Poland’s agriculture to save his economy.

Because he went earlier than he had planned, the Wehrmacht , Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were not at full TOE. The wider war with Britain and France that ensued was unexpected.

TIK has a good playlist of the leadup to WW2.

John H.
John H.
November 27, 2022 8:16 pm
m0nty
m0nty
November 27, 2022 8:16 pm

It is true, Mater, that when you descend into cookerism as Matt Guy has done, you will appeal to a certain subsection of uneducated people. There are significant pockets of cookerism around places like Broadmeadows and Melton. However, the majority of the working class are smart enough to see through the cooker rubbish, and indeed Labor held those seats despite big swings.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 8:17 pm

“Matersays:
November 27, 2022 at 8:10 pm”

He’s such a dumb fat fascist fuckwit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 8:18 pm

Our new catsitter was over the moon about the mum currawong feeding her two squawking fledgies. She had her phone out in an instant and was taking photos.

Always nice to hear of another convert.

The foreshore butcherbirds are in heaven, and no longer at the foreshore since they’ve now moved south to the Cafe. Arrived several times today, with many excited squeaks. The Cafe’s grey butcherbird has been very cautious, but he and his mate did sneak in for a lump of mince each.

If you look at the wikis the grey and pied burcherbirds are said to’ve diverged 5 million years ago. Five million years is a helluva grudge fight.

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