1,854 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 26 Nov 2022”

  1. Andrews long ago identified and grafted himself into the right networks in Victoria. Lindsay Fox is a key ally. Setka. The gay Pride Centre. Cops. There would be others.

    It’s a small place, Melbourne, and if you assist the right groups at the trough they will help out. “He’s good for the State.” Good for us they mean.

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  2. Words, abused till they huddle in the corner of the shower with “the crying game” soundtrack in the background…
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/27/queensland-faces-significant-wellbeing-decline-if-it-doesnt-quickly-transition-to-renewables-report-says

    A Queensland government-commissioned report by Deloitte says there could be “significant” declines in wellbeing*, assets left stranded and a stagnating economy if the state doesn’t quickly transition to renewables.**

    The report by the global accounting giant, obtained under the state’s right to information regime, also suggests Queensland could*** have a bright economic future should it rapidly decarbonise in coordination with the rest of the world.****

    The New Futures, New Resources report says there “is no middle ground”, and the state must be open to a “whatever it takes approach” to adjust for “structural disruption”*****, or its biggest industry could face “rapid decline”.

    Climate campaigners who obtained the internal document said the Palaszczuk government could no longer “walk both sides of the street on climate change and fossil fuels”.

    * Wellbeing- what you use when you want the “vibe” to back you up.
    ** Quick, all the cool kids are doing this..
    *** Lets wreck an existing industry because “could” is in the report.
    **** China, paging China to the “destroy your economy and impoverish the plebs leading to the overthrow of your system of government and shooting in the head of the current leadership” desk.
    ***** We know this will cause massive hits to the economy, but remember the sunlit uplands *COULD* be just around the corner.

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  3. The VEC has formally rejected Ian Cook’s call for a Mulgrave recount.

    Evidently the margin of 20 points wasn’t close enough, LOL.

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  4. It was interesting that Trump hosted Fuentes and Ye the other day, where no doubt they discussed how to better implement fascism in America since they are all committed to it in their own way.

    Trump cut government spending and regulation. He ended many foreign wars. He otherwise bombed a literal fascist theocracy out of existence. He blunted Putin’s territorial ambitions in Syria, Ukraine etc. He started arming the Ukrainians against Putin’s land grab and fake elections. He never discriminated by race or sex. He threatened the military industrial complex, demanding half price on the bloated F-35s or just getting a better Super Hornet.

    He had very few allies in the media and they were very critical of him.

    By definition, it is not fascist, unless you outline some other policies he wants now.

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  5. It will be a good day in Victoria when the filthy slug (Andrews) is squished by his own caucus

    That’s the only way he’ll be rolled.

    I suspect a good deal of his totally graceless victory speech was directed to his colleagues in the caucus and their union overlords.

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  6. Dan Andrews will go when he wants to go, just like Steve Bracks.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he swanned off during this term, I reckon his back problems might give him more gyp over time.

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  7. Most NATO members have run out of weapons for Ukraine – NYT

    Only larger states have untapped potential to continue arming Kiev, newspaper claims

    Arms transfers to Ukraine have left Western weapon stockpiles strained, making it increasingly difficult for NATO militaries to honor politicians’ pledges to supply Kiev, the New York Times reported on Saturday.

    “Smaller countries have exhausted their potential,” and according to one NATO official, at least 20 of the bloc’s 30 members are “pretty tapped out,” the newspaper wrote. Only “larger allies,” including France, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands, have enough stockpiles to continue or potentially increase their weapon shipments to Ukraine.

    Since the start of Russia’s military operation in Ukraine in late February, the US and its Western allies have been providing Kiev with billions of dollars in security assistance, to the tune of nearly $40 billion, now comparable to the entire annual defense budget of France. Moscow has repeatedly warned that the weapon shipments will only prolong the conflict and increase the risk of a direct conflict between Russia and NATO.

    As Ukraine continues to call for more weapons, EU stockpiles are running low, with Germany already “reaching its limit” as of early September. Meanwhile, Lithuania, which does not have any more weapons to donate, has urged the allies to give Ukraine “everything we have.”

    US President Joe Biden has vowed to keep the arms pipeline open for “as long as it takes,” but even American military stockpiles have taken a toll after repeated shipments to Kiev. As early as March, just weeks after the conflict in Ukraine kicked off, the US Defense Department was already scrambling to replenish thousands of shoulder-fired missiles supplied to Kiev. By August, US stockpiles of 155mm artillery ammunition were “uncomfortably low,” according to the Wall Street Journal.

    The Pentagon’s latest fact sheet detailed more than $19 billion in direct military aid approved since February, including over 46,000 anti-armor systems, nearly 200 Howitzers, 38 long-range High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), and a litany of other heavy weapons, vehicles and ammunition – as well as over 920,000 of 155mm artillery rounds.

    Meanwhile in Dreamland

    NATO is heavily invested in Ukraine, with the alliance’s members also providing training and intelligence capability. Despite this “unprecedented support,” the military bloc’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, has repeatedly claimed that “NATO is not a party to the conflict.”

    Moscow sees things differently. Multiple top officials, including Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, have accused NATO of waging war against Russia “by proxy,” while Putin has described Russia as fighting “the entire Western military machine.”

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  8. I wouldn’t be surprised if he swanned off during this term, I reckon his back problems might give him more gyp over time.

    That it happened in Blairgowrie was divine justice.

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  9. “Is DeSantis going to also play footsie with outright Holocaust deniers like Fuentes”

    But you don’t mind some “outright Holocaust deniers”, do you? Those ones with “legitimate grievances”.

    You really are a despicable hypocrite.

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  10. Tucker Carlson slams Zelensky for ‘demanding’ money

    The Fox News host earlier argued that intervening in the Ukraine conflict is not in the US’ interest

    Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky is a “corrupt strongman” who “demands” money from the US taxpayer, Fox News host Tucker Carlson declared on Thursday. Carlson is a prominent critic of Zelensky, whom he already accused of attempting to drag the US into a “third world war.”

    The nation has allocated a total of $68 billion in military and economic aid to Ukraine this year and the White House asked Congress last week to approve another $37 billion before Republicans retake control of the House of Representatives in January.

    This combined expenditure is “double what we spent every year in Afghanistan,” Carlson exclaimed on Thursday, adding that Zelensky “doesn’t just ask the US Congress for money, he demands it.”

    “Who is that guy?” he asked. “He’s some corrupt Ukrainian strongman. Where does he get that attitude?”

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  11. Moscow sees things differently. Multiple top officials, including Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, have accused NATO of waging war against Russia “by proxy,” while Putin has described Russia as fighting “the entire Western military machine.”

    Happens when you ignore the concept of Westphalian Sovereignty.

    Russia is 374 years off the pace.

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  12. struth says:
    November 28, 2022 at 10:28 am

    Where’s Sancho?

    Picking up behind Don Quixote’s horse which just “won” the Victorian ‘Premiership’.

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  13. Good to see steel cut oats used for The Greens voting porridge featured in Nick Carter’s Paywallian column. Possibly the only useful contribution Used Carr ever made to Australian public life. They’re good, do not use anything else. Rhubarb compote sounds nice too. And post-stroke friendly.

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  14. ‘Hard times’ ahead for Europe – NATO

    Backing Ukraine is causing living costs to soar, the bloc’s chief Jens Stoltenberg admitted

    Europeans are about to face numerous hardships due to the Ukraine conflict, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told Germany’s Welt an Sonntag newspaper on Sunday.

    Nevertheless, he insisted that the members of the US-led military bloc and their allies should boost their efforts to bolster Ukrainian forces and keep the fighting going.

    In his comments, Stoltenberg admitted that citizens of Western countries are being negatively affected by the conflict in Ukraine. “Rising food and energy bills mean hard times for many households in Europe,” he said, adding, however, that those affected “should remember that the people of Ukraine pay with their blood every day.”

    The NATO chief also noted that the West could “strengthen Ukraine’s position at the negotiating table if we provide military support to the country.” “The best way to support peace is to support Ukraine,” he stated.

    He praised Germany for the weapons it is sending to Kiev, claiming that they “save lives.”

    According to Stoltenberg, Russia will try to use “winter as a weapon” against Ukraine. This statement echoes recent remarks in which he warned that the coming months would be difficult for Kiev.

    Russia started targeting Ukrainian energy facilities in early October after accusing Kiev of attacking its critical infrastructure, including the strategic Crimean Bridge.

    Western nations imposed new sweeping sanctions on Russia in the wake of Moscow having launched its military operation in Ukraine. The restrictions led to skyrocketing gas prices, thus fueling the burgeoning energy crisis in the EU. This also came as the bloc announced plans to wean itself off of Russian energy.

    However, according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, these policies will lead to “very deplorable consequences” for the EU, with up to 20 years of deindustrialization ahead. In early October, he also noted that by relying on expensive energy from the US, the bloc is making its economy “less competitive.”

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  15. A Queensland government-commissioned report by Deloitte says there could be “significant” declines in wellbeing, assets left stranded and a stagnating economy if the state doesn’t quickly transition to renewables.

    qld needs gender affirming care now!

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  16. A tale of two Americas

    Red states are growing, while blue states are mired in lawlessness and decline.

    Midterms were not a victory for conservative or progressive ideology, but an assertion of the growing power of geography in American politics. It was less a national election than a clash of civilisations.

    Virtually nowhere in blue areas did Republicans make gains. Both the north-east and California – the central players in Democratic Party politics – stayed solidly blue. Even the most well-regarded GOP candidates, such as Lanhee Chen who ran for California state controller, struggled to make inroads in Democratic territory.

    Meanwhile, the senators and governors of the leading red states – Texas’s Greg Abbott, Georgia’s Brian Kemp, Florida’s Ron DeSantis, Ohio’s Mike DeWine – all won handily. Almost all blue-state governors remained the same as well, although the Democratic incumbents often won by smaller margins.

    So, what is happening in this increasingly inexplicable country? Essentially, there are now two prevailing realities in the US. One is primarily urban, single and, despite some GOP gains in this demographic, still largely non-white. It functions on the backs of finance, tech and the service industries. The other is largely suburban or exurban, family centric and more likely involved in basic industries like manufacturing, logistics, agriculture and energy.

    Usually, the media assume these two Americas represent equally viable political economies. But this is increasingly not the case. In population terms at least, red America is now growing far more rapidly than blue America. And this makes it more important politically. Since 1990, Texas has gained eight congressional seats, Florida five and Arizona three. In contrast, New York has lost five, Pennsylvania four and Illinois three. California, which now suffers higher net outbound-migration rates than most Rustbelt states, lost a congressional seat in 2020 for the first time in its history.

    This decline in blue America has accelerated since the pandemic, due to rising crime and the availability of remote work. Last year, New York, California and Illinois lost more people to outbound migration than all other states. Demographer Wendell Cox notes that the largest percentage loss of residents has occurred in big core cities such as New York City, Chicago and San Francisco. In contrast, population burgeoned in sprawling areas such as Phoenix, Dallas and Orlando.

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  17. Let’s hope the Pony Club has banked some of the revenue flooding in to the state through the interconnectors.

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  18. Some thoughts for Advent:
    The First Sunday of Advent
    November 27, 2022 | Menagerie

    Please, if you are not Catholic, don’t be put off by this video. It’s simply great advice for another way to think about celebrating Advent and preparing for Christmas and the Second Coming of the Lord as well. Actually, I found Fr. Mike’s thoughts to be more like what I used to hear in Baptist churches.

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  19. Europeans are about to face numerous hardships due to the Ukraine conflict, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told Germany’s Welt an Sonntag newspaper on Sunday.

    well no,Europeans are about to face numerous hardships due to their stupid politicians

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  20. Global chip shortage expected to drag on – Bosch

    The deficit is mainly due to the rapidly growing electric vehicles industry, the engineering giant Bosch has warned

    The global semiconductor shortage will continue to affect the auto industry until 2024 as chip suppliers cannot meet procurement demands, executive vice-president of Bosch China Xu Daquan has said.

    He told China Daily this week that the main reason for the shortage is the rapid growth of the new energy vehicle industry.

    Bosch is one of the world’s biggest auto parts suppliers, providing intelligent driving solutions for carmakers, including chassis control systems.

    Its Chinese operation is reportedly looking for domestic raw materials suppliers, but has yet to find one for mass production. The company expects more domestic chip suppliers to achieve large-scale and high-quality production in the next two or three years.

    According to Auto Forecast Solutions, cited in the report, the global car market slashed production by about 3.91 million vehicles due to chip shortages in the first ten months of this year. Nearly 4.28 million units are projected to be cut for the whole year.

    The global chip shortage that started during the Covid-19 pandemic has caused severe supply issues and delays with the automotive and other industries.

    The conflict in Ukraine has aggravated the problem. Global prices for neon and xenon gasses have surged since Ukrainian suppliers Ingas and Cryoin, which deliver about 50% of the world’s neon gas for semiconductor uses, stopped production. Russia reportedly supplies up to 30% of the neon consumed globally. China and Japan are other major producers of noble gasses, but their supplies are mainly consumed domestically.

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  21. Midterms were not a victory for conservative or progressive ideology, but an assertion of the growing power of geography in American politics.

    Not geography but rather demography.

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  22. A Queensland government commissioned report by Deloitte

    Why would you trust any report from Deloitte’s??

    They, like the rest of the so called experts, operate in China for the benefit of the CCP!

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  23. Monday after the election.
    Worksafe Vic has released early findings that the quarantine hotel debacle will lead to dozens of charges of running an unsafe workplace.
    TaliDan has his political fingers in all pies.

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  24. Where’s Sancho?

    Got a job as a truck driver. Apparently it’s piss easy.

    He’s on the Nullarbor as we speak, downloading Madam Zeee podcasts.

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  25. There’s a sign on the front window:

    Refugees* Welcome Here

    *From The Shop, which is emaciated and dying.

  26. dover0beachsays:
    November 28, 2022 at 9:47 am
    Tell me you don’t understand the Trinity without telling me you don’t understand the Trinity:

    Well, given the whole Trinity thing, technically Jesus’ pronouns were they/them.

    The deepest thoughts of the pseudo-Catholic m0nty=fa expose his theological illiteracy.

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  27. struth says:
    November 28, 2022 at 11:09 am

    Of course the Vic elections were above board.
    This isn’t the USA after all.

    Of course it was above board, after all we have the impartial Victorian Electoral Commission.

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  28. m0nty=fa

    A “network of professionals”, eh. Is that what they call organised crime these days.

    Enough about the Liars Party, a crime syndicate masquerading as a political party, to borrow some words from elsewhere.

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  29. And Aussies are complaining?

    Pakistan’s central bank on Nov. 25 raised its key policy rate by 100 basis points to 16 percent—the highest level since 1999—amid persistent global and domestic supply shocks that have pushed inflation higher.

    The country’s Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) said the decision was made to prevent inflation from spiraling out of control as inflationary pressures have turned out to be “stronger and more persistent than expected.”

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  30. Global chip shortage expected to drag on

    That headline caused a run on frozen crinkle cuts at the local supermarket.

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  31. struth says:
    November 28, 2022 at 11:25 am

    We know choo choo jabbed himself to death
    But where’s Sancho?

    KD said he’s gone Nullarbor looking for the Nymph.

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  32. From the story KD quoted above:

    The helicopter involved in the crash had been used by Mr Wright’s company, Helibrook, for scenic and adventure tours in the Top End between 2020 and 2022, as well as crocodile egg harvesting.

    Nice! Imagine being an unsuspecting tourist in a helo well over its hours.

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  33. We know choo choo jabbed himself to death
    But where’s Sancho?

    I saw him at the Hay truck stop. Only through an open window. Was kinda grimacing and asked if I had any prunes.

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  34. Meanwhile, over in Kiwi land they’re trying on a new shonky:

    The misuse of power to entrench NZ’s Three Waters legislation

    When governments become tired and lose their popularity – usually in their third term – they often become desperate to get their way and prone to misusing their power.

    This is currently in evidence with the Labour government’s push to lock in elements of their Three Waters reform program by sneaking in a rule that says a future parliament would need 60 per cent of MPs to vote to change the ownership of the new water services. Constitutional legal experts are outraged by a move they say is unparalleled and sets a dangerous new precedent for how governments make law.

    The change occurred late on Wednesday night, when parliament was sitting under urgency, with Labour and the Greens ramming through legislation on their Three Waters reform program. Out of nowhere, Green MP Eugenie Sage proposed an amendment to the Three Waters legislation that would require future parliaments to achieve a 60 per cent vote in order to privatise the new water entities.

    This was slipped in without proper debate, and certainly without the chance for the public to make submissions on this key part of the law. Critics suggest that the Minister of Local Government Nanaia Mahuta arranged with the Green MP to slip the change in at the last minute. Both Mahuta and Sage have since publicly defended the change that Labour and the Greens voted in favour of.

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is now under pressure to backtrack on the law change, and on Monday she told RNZ “We’ll discuss that in caucus and take another look at that.”

    Why the change is controversial

    It’s a core democratic principle that parliament should be able to make and change laws when they have a majority of support – over 50 per cent of MPs. But this Three Waters decision changes that to that 60 per cent. A future parliament is therefore bound by the decisions of the current one – which is regarded as unconstitutional by legal scholars.

    There are some accepted constitutional exceptions to the 50 per cent rule for changing laws, but these are only for certain laws relating to elections. For example, changing the voting age requires a “super-majority” of 75 per cent of MPs.

    Oz

    Jacinda needs to declare herself Divine Empress for Life next.

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  35. Chinese broadcasters are censoring World Cup footage so as not to show tens of thousands of fans enjoying themselves without masks.

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  36. re https://ia801903.us.archive.org/5/items/DecodingNaziSecrets/NOVA.S26E14.Decoding.Nazi.Secrets.1999.DVDRip.DD2.0.x264-astro.mp4

    Watch the start – Germans were thorough in Training – Wireless Operators Training

    1:51:58

    Have downloaded H.264 – 672 Mb for transfer to external hard drive and watch on Big Screen TV

    On Amazon prime purchased The Imitation Game last night

    THE IMITATION GAME is a dramatic portrayal of the life and work of one of Britain’s most extraordinary unsung heroes, Alan Turing. Based on the real life story of Alan Turing, who is credited with cracking the German Enigma code, THE IMITATION GAME portrays the nail-biting race against time by Turing and his brilliant team at Britain’s top-secret code-breaking centre.

    Starring – Benedict Cumberbatch, Charles Dance, Matthew Goode

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  37. Getting emotional again KD?

    Hey, I’m not the one wordwalling my way through the days calling other people traitorous cocksmokers.

    Was my question inciting rebellion?

    No, it was inciting laughter. How’s Big Corporate?

    Is FlashCat the only audience you’re getting these days?

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  38. Malcolm Turnbull
    @TurnbullMalcolm
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    At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right and is therefore at odds with the electorate whose support it seeks

    That Turnbull is promoting the lie that the Vic Libs led by Guy were the ‘hard right’ is the cherry on top of Sat night debacle. At least two things are at play here. Firstly, left-liberals can retain the pretense that they defeated the ‘hard-right’, while, secondly, right-liberals can deflect blame from their ‘ please give me left-liberalism but more slowly’ strategy on to the ‘hard right’.

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  39. Sylvester the cat says:
    November 28, 2022 at 11:34 am

    Pamcho’s gone to Queensland droving, and we don’t know where he are.

    So KD was bullshitting about the truck driving??

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  40. Hunchback is bankrolling a Murderna plant at Monash. Imagine the rolling mandates for all manner of clotshots.

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  41. The R22 is the most underpowered, dangerous piece of shit ever built, which is why it tops Australia’s annual helicopter crash statistics.

    Oi !!! They’re only as ‘dangerous‘ as you want them to be.
    (btw: the machine in question is an R44 which has plenty more power)

    When the engine quits, a helicopter, regardless of make & model, is ‘underpowered’ to the nth degree.

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  42. See this is when the manager is invited to take travel and sex advice, with a pineapple.

    Wellcome Collection in London shuts ‘racist, sexist and ableist’ medical history gallery
    Medicine Man exhibits included painting of a black African kneeling in front of a white missionary

    A museum in London run by the Wellcome foundation health charity is to close one of its key galleries because it perpetuates “a version of medical history that is based on racist, sexist and ableist theories and language”.

    The Wellcome Collection’s announcement on Saturday affects a free permanent display called Medicine Man, which includes objects relating to sex, birth and death and includes anatomical models in wood, ivory and wax dating back to the 17th century. These were collected by Sir Henry Wellcome who amassed more than a million items on the history of health and medicine.

    The very fact that these items have ended up in one place, the story we told was that of a man with enormous wealth, power and privilege,” the museum said on Twitter.

    The director of the Wellcome Collection, Melanie Keen, was appointed in 2019. A year later she pledged to be courageous in dealing with the most contentious items on display there. “It feels like an impossible place to be worrying about this material we hold without interrogating what it is, what narratives there are to be understood in a more profound way, and how the material came to be in our collection,” she said.

    Keen highlighted one painting of a black African kneeling in front of a white missionary. “A Medical Missionary Attending to a Sick African” (1916) by Harold Copping, which she has since had put in storage on the grounds that it risked “perpetuating racial stereotypes and hierarchies”.

    Other interventions have been made since then but the latest announcement said the Medicine Man display “still perpetuates a version of medical history that is based on racist, sexist and ableist theories and language”.

    “When our founder, Henry Wellcome started collecting in the 19th century, the aim then was to acquire vast numbers of objects that would enable a better understanding of the art and science of healing throughout the ages.
    “The result was a collection that told a global story of health and medicine in which disabled people, Black people, Indigenous peoples and people of colour were exoticised, marginalised and exploited – or even missed out altogether. As a result we will close Medicine Man on 27 November 2022.”

    She 8knows* shes far more moral than the man who bequeathed this institution for her to run, because its current year and shes dusky hue.

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  43. Mr. Matt Wright is in deep sheep. Very deep.

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  44. thefrollickingmole says: November 28, 2022 at 12:04 pm
    Mr. Matt Wright is in deep sheep. Very deep
    The love that dare not bleat its name?

    Lol. With the strife he’s in he’d gladly swap it for only having been caught behind the hangar with a boy.

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  45. Keen highlighted one painting of a black African kneeling in front of a white missionary. “A Medical Missionary Attending to a Sick African” (1916) by Harold Copping, which she has since had put in storage on the grounds that it risked “perpetuating racial stereotypes and hierarchies”.

    How terrible that people should forego comfortable careers at home to ensure medical care was available to the most neglected peoples in the fartherst corners of the known world.

    How typically white supremacist of them!

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  46. The line that the Victorian Liberals suffered at the polls because they are hard right is delusional. For one thing, they have rolled over meekly on nearly all of Andrews’ woke social engineering. But they have also abandoned what should be their strong suit, competent financial management. Anyone with more than half a brain in Victoria should be terrified about the levels of debt Andrews has been building up. So what did Guy do? Promise 34 billion dollars more spending.

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  47. The ABC now moves on to a promo piece for euthanasia: it’s legal but not accessible enough so we neeed to spend billions of the taxpayers’ hard-earned….

    Similar push from them here last week to make sure “VAD” services are available in regional and remote QLD.

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  48. Malcolm Turnbull
    @TurnbullMalcolm
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    At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right and is therefore at odds with the electorate whose support it seeks

    Turnbull and John Brumby singing off the same sheet…of talking points.

    Colour me surprised.

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  49. Are there any statistics yet on the number of non-voters in the Victorian election?

    There was a record number of people who refused to vote at all in the recent federal election, something like triple the normal rate.

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  50. Hard to work out what Turnbull means. The Libs in Victoria had a platform which was essentially identical to Labor. So the only way they could go any further left would be to the left of Labor. Sitting in the microscopic gap between the ALP and Greens doesn’t sound very practical.

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  51. So the only way they could go any further left would be to the left of Labor.

    Worked well in WA.

    Meantime, the Islamic community in VIC have come out winners (Sunnis, I presume).

    Both major parties were promising them millions for their museum, aged care, health centres, and “outreach” programs, and they’re not the sort of people you want to disappoint.

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  52. The idea came from a 2020 Army discussion paper on power and energy.

    As compared to a discussion paper on killing the enemy….

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  53. Meantime, the Islamic community in VIC have come out winners (Sunnis, I presume).

    We really need to get them fired up on the idea that Australia’s shit gun laws deny them access to an essential element of their culture and heritage.

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  54. ‘Bitter Truth’: EU Parliament Told It Has Done ‘A Lot of Damage’ to Europe at Anniversary Event

    Seventy years after the founding of the forerunner to the European Union, the bloc has done “a lot of damage” to the continent, a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) said during a “birthday” event.

    Professor Ryszard Legutko, a Polish MEP who serves as head of the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists group, has lambasted the European Parliament in particular as having done “a lot of damage” to the continent during an anniversary event for the EU body held on Tuesday.

    While many eurocrats have celebrated the supposed parliament’s role in Europe, Legutko lambasted the organisation as having significantly harmed Europe, saying that it now functioned to solely push the politics of the left.

    “The bitter truth is that the European Parliament has done a lot of damage in Europe,” the Law and Justice party politician said amid gasps from the floor of the assembly.

    Legutko, a Plato scholar and professor of philosophy, went on to accuse the body of promulgating a false belief that there is a single European “demos” — that is, a common European nation capable of being properly represented in a single shared assembly — and warned that the body had been used as a vehicle to push leftist ideology without democratic accountability.

    “It has been sending a false message it represents the European demos. There isn’t, and there won’t be any European demos,” he said, adding that it has “infected Europe with shameless partisanship and the infection became so contagious that it spread to other institutions such as the European Commission.”

    “The Parliament has become a political vehicle of the left to impose their monopoly with their fierce intolerance towards any dissenting view,” the MEP continued. “No matter how many times you repeat the word ‘diversity’. Diversity is becoming an extinct species in the European Union and particularly in this chamber.”

    “The idea that, say, Spanish, German, French, et cetera, deputies accountable to their own national electorates can dictate something to, shall we say, Hungarian society or any other society to which they cannot be held accountable and which cannot take them to task is simply preposterous,” he added.

    “Call it what you will, but democracy it is not.”

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  55. Malcolm Turdbull
    @TurdbullMalcolm
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    At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right

    surely he meant far right, ie literal nazis. mask comes off revealing a communist

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  56. OldOzziesays:
    November 28, 2022 at 10:56 am
    A tale of two Americas

    Red states are growing, while blue states are mired in lawlessness and decline.

    do we have some hope of the same process here changing the HoR?

    Qld is growing (+92k in ’21/22), while the mendicant states of Tas (+4.1k), NT (+1k), ACT (+3.4k) and SA (+15.4k) fall behind.

    At that rate, Qld should get a reallocated HoR seat in about 2 years. I wonder when that +166k people (25M / 151 seats) is triggered?

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  57. Shop in Democrat-Run Portland Closes After 15 Break-ins: ‘Our City Is in Peril’

    Marcy Landolfo, who owns the Rains PDX store in Democrat-run Portland, Oregon, is fed up after experiencing break-in number 15.

    Landolfo told KATU she decided to shut it down because, “The products that are being targeted are the very expensive winter products and I just felt like the minute I get those in the store they’re going to get stolen,” the outlet reported Saturday.

    She is also concerned for her employees’ safety and acknowledged, “The problem is, as small businesses, we cannot sustain those types of losses and stay in business. I won’t even go into the numbers of how much has been out of pocket.”

    A notice on the shop’s door said the location was permanently closed and told visitors to use the website instead.

    The notice also told customers:

    Our city is in peril. Small businesses (and large) cannot sustain doing business in our city’s current state. We have no protection or recourse against the criminal behavior that goes unpunished. Do not be fooled into thinking that insurance companies cover losses. We have sustained 15 break-ins. We have not received any financial reimbursement since the 3rd.

    Please do your part to support small businesses this holiday season and beyond. Please be vigilant in voting to make our city safe again.

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  58. Hunchback is going to urgently reconvene parliament before Christmas. 100% that fucker is going to mandate the booster to keep your job. It’s a vote winner, so why not do it?

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  59. At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right

    A colleague parroted this line this morning, so I challenged him to identify one of these ‘hard right’ policies of which he spoke.

    As expected, couldn’t do it. He fumbled around and incoherently mentioned ‘Christian beliefs’, but couldn’t come up with a policy which filled the bill.

    Sheep indeed.

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  60. The idea that insurers pay for losses is as mistaken as thinking Parliament pays for government spending. I would not be surprised to find it is widespread.

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  61. All you need to know about euthanasia vis-a-vis other policies.
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-wests-uncivilised-euthanasia-policy/

    Douglas Murray

    So much is happening on the surface at the moment that it can be difficult to notice certain undercurrents. Since the following story has gone almost unheeded in the Anglophone press, let me point at one especially suggestive current which could be glimpsed on the Continent this month.

    Cast your mind back to March 2016 and you may remember a co-ordinated set of suicide bombings in Brussels: two at the airport, one at a metro station. The three Isis-inspired terrorists managed to kill 32 people that day. But you may, understandably enough, have forgotten about it. The attacks came after the even larger ones in Paris, and people didn’t really have much to say about them. My principal memory is of being asked on to Radio 4’s The Moral Maze the following evening to discuss the question of whether there are tensions between security and privacy – or some such bilge – and losing what remained of my patience.

    The victims that morning included members of a school party heading to Rome. Unlike many of her classmates, Shanti De Corte was not among them. Miraculously, she didn’t sustain any physical injuries. But the 17-year-old was standing just a few metres from one of the suicide bombers at the airport and was severely traumatised by what she saw.

    As it happens, in a couple of weeks a cell of nine defendants will be going on trial for their role in the attacks. The trial was delayed because of a controversy over the conditions in which they were due to appear: in individual closed glass cubicles. This seems to have been deemed inhumane by the Belgian authorities.

    Whether being isolated in a self-enclosed glass cubicle is inhumane or not is the sort of row that Belgian justice – like our own – excels at. Assuming at least some of the cell are found guilty, in due course there will doubtless be further rows about the conditions in which the prisoners are kept. One person who will not contribute to that discussion is Shanti De Corte.

    This month the news was announced by her family and friends that on 7 May De Corte was euthanised on the authority of the Belgian state. A month earlier a panel of doctors and psychiatrists had judged that the PTSD and depression from which she suffered were incurable. She had requested euthanasia and they granted her request. So they killed her, or at least agreed to let her be put to death by lethal drugging in the decent and painless manner that the state allows. According to the official who oversaw the case, De Corte ‘was in such a state of mental suffering that her request was logically accepted’.

    I have written here before about the oddity of euthanasia laws in Belgium and the Netherlands. Each time I have, people say: ‘You’re getting all slippery slope on us, Douglas.’ And in some ways they’re right, as euthanasia clearly is a slippery slope – perhaps the slipperiest of all. If it weren’t, the countries that have legalised it wouldn’t be putting people to death because they suffer from depression and other mental illnesses. Incurable cancer is one thing. Degenerative disease among the very elderly is another. But putting young people down because of mental problems?

    Of course, just one of the failures that the De Corte case shows is that of available treatments for PTSD and similar psychological trauma. The amount we know about how to deal with the damage caused by such an event as seeing your classmates blown apart in front of your eyes is at a very basic stage. Most likely the pain can never be wholly lifted. Religious faith could probably do something. There are therapies – including the use of specific, currently illegal drugs – which could likely alleviate the most severe symptoms. Yet, for a whole range of reasons, research is in its infancy and western societies have proved much more adept at learning how to kill severely traumatised people than at learning to treat them.

    In any case, none of the currently available treatments worked for Shanti De Corte. She reportedly said: ‘I wake up and take medicine for breakfast, then up to 11 anti-depressants a day. Without it I can’t live, but with all these pills I don’t feel anything any more, I’m a ghost.’ In a farewell message to her friends on Facebook she tried to be more positive. ‘It was a life of laughter and tears until the last day,’ she wrote. ‘I loved it and have been allowed to know what true love is. I’m leaving in peace. Know that I already miss you.’ She was 23.

    So six years on, the Belgian state will officially notch up the number of victims of the 2016 Brussels attacks to 33 people. Yet although De Corte was certainly a victim of the jihadis, it was Belgium that killed her. And there is something deeply strange, almost dystopian, in this.

    After all, if the cell of nine people are convicted when they go on trial next month, what is the worst that any of them will suffer? A number of years in a Belgian jail, obviously. The worst offenders may find themselves there for life, joining the other Muslims who make up less than 10 per cent of the country’s population but around 30 per cent of its prison inmates.

    But it would be impossible, of course, for Belgium to put any of the perpetrators to death. Belgian law, indeed European law, forbids any such thing. In certain states in the US the death penalty exists – also by lethal drugging – but this is scorned by most Europeans, for we are beyond such barbarism. Executing a criminal would be illegal under the European Convention, the European Court of Justice and a whole slew of related laws and protocols. That’s because in the 21st century, Europe is so sophisticated that it is unacceptable to execute criminals. Executing their victims, by contrast, is not just acceptable but ‘logical’.

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  62. Get nervous in large crowds? Optus Stadium and the First Test is a safe bet. Forget being 3 deep trying to take a slash at the WACA. Too bad if you actually like microwaved Red Rooster rolls in hot plastic tents.

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  63. “At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right”

    Turdbull, the most miserable malevolent ghost. He knows the Liberals are a pale shade of Green. He knows this makes them unelectable. His plan is to destroy the Liberal Party and it’s working to plan. He is so consumed by malice and hate towards the party that made him PM.

    Meanwhile, of course, the stupid fucking Liberal Party refuse to expel this most miserable malevolent ghost.

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  64. A colleague parroted this line this morning, so I challenged him to identify one of these ‘hard right’ policies of which he spoke.
    As expected, couldn’t do it. He fumbled around and incoherently mentioned ‘Christian beliefs’, but couldn’t come up with a policy which filled the bill.

    Lol, Matthew (#IstandwithDan) Guy accused Renee Heath of attending church services & publicly disowned her.

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  65. LOL Dr Norman missing from his usual gig on ALPBC Radio Perf. Damage control? Get the Media Watchdog on the trail.

    1
  66. How much do consultants donate to the Queensland government to report what they want to hear? In other news, dog wags tail.

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  67. The more you observe Trumble, the more you see how despicable he is. What did Howard see in him?

    A successor.
    The only difference between the two was that Trumble wore designer suits, Howard wore Wallabies trackies.
    Howard’s attitude towards Trump exposed his true colours.

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  68. All Hunchback has to do is mandate the clotshots again and spark a mass exodus. Only the faithful will stay, solidifying its power. It’s a no brainer.

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  69. “It’s a no brainer.”

    I thought Dan’s preferred pronouns were “he/him”, not “it/that”.

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  70. Malcolm Turnbull
    @TurnbullMalcolm
    ·
    2h
    At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right and is therefore at odds with the electorate whose support it seeks

    Thanks, Dover. Roared laughing.

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  71. From, the previous artice

    Essentially, there are now two prevailing realities in the US. One is primarily urban, single and, despite some GOP gains in this demographic, still largely non-white. It functions on the backs of finance, tech and the service industries.

    I found this sentence very curious. What has GOP gains to do with the racial make-up of these urban areas? Or am I misreading this?

  72. “the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right”

    Obviously not hard enough – they apparently didn’t punch your lights out, Mal.

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  73. What is the government going to do if the director ID thing gets hacked?

    Inadvertadly, they might have to scrap the surveillance state and it could in the end be a good thing.

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  74. At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right and is therefore at odds with the electorate whose support it seeks

    The meme of the guy squinting and shaking his head isn’t enough.

    This is truly delusional in at least four ways.

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  75. What could possibly go wrong with the MyGovID thing?

    Per the RBA…

    “I’m sorry if people listened to what we’d said….”

    This Seinfeld episode almost writes itself.

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  76. Leave Lisa alone: Criticism of The Project host is ‘sexist, nasty and personal,’ says one of the ABC’s biggest stars

    . Paul Barry blamed sexism for ongoing criticism targeted against Lisa Wilkinson
    . ABC Media Watch host hit out calling insults ‘nasty, personal and exhausting’
    . Barry admitted Wilkinson wasn’t perfect after she stirred controversies in past

    From the Comments

    – The 74 people who watch you, Barry, agree with you. Well done!

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  77. From mole’s Titania link:

    Like many on the left, I have decided to delete my Twitter account in protest. Musk won’t know what hit him. Without my wisdom on the platform, the company will soon collapse into oblivion. There will be an outcry, share prices will plummet, and Musk will come begging for me to return. But I shall stand firm.

    I suspect Titania’s real surname is FitzSimons.

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  78. Fewer than half of students at Cambridge University are heterosexual… with a third identifying as bisexual, survey suggests

    . In a poll of Cambridge University students 49.7% said they were heterosexual
    . Student newspaper Varsity asked around 600 undergraduates anonymously
    . 11.9 per cent said they were homosexual and 29.7 per cent answered bisexual

    Summed up by

    General Melchett Visits the Troops – Blackadder

    From 1 Min 02 Secs George says “permission to sing Boisterously Sir?

    “Row, Row, Row your boat gently down the stream, Belts off, Trousers Down (with thrusting `pelvic motion by George & General Melchett), isn’t Life a Scream”

    Summed up by Black Adder “Fabulous, University Education, you can’t beat it can you!”

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  79. Trumble has picked out, as fumbling through a thick fog, what is batshit plain obvious to everyone else: Big government naturally tends toward an elite upper class beyond the reach of the lower people and yet is itself able to reach down to the very bottom of their pockets.

    Because he laboured so long working this out, and because he is so incredibly vain, he wants to advance the big government cause because fate has, for some perverse reasoning of its own, not granted him the recognition and the reward he is sure is his due.

    I do hope the people on Outsiders pick up on his latest damp attempt at gaslighting and put the question someone has asked above: What are the policies that supposedly make the Victorian hard-right? They could invite him to come onto the show and back up his claims. A man with a gigantic rippling brain like him would be able to pin all those Sky nobodies like a beetle to an entomological display.

    Come on, Braniac!

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  80. More than 7,000 people were murdered over three months in South Africa, according to new police statistics, which showed a rise in violent crime from the same period last year.

    Yeah, but all those burials and all that funereal paraphernalia must be pumping up GDP like a mosquito hitting the aorta!

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  81. Duncanm:
    I saw that clip this morning and thought “Yet another DFL. And the police will just ignore his drugged up exhibition. No wonder the Lebs are out of control – the coppers are shit scared of ’em.
    ISJ 6MY. Just in case they need his rego number – it’s pretty obvious.

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  82. I know we all understand this, but just for context to any passer by:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

    The parable of the broken window was introduced by French economist Frédéric Bastiat in his 1850 essay “That Which We See and That Which We Do Not See” (“Ce qu’on voit et ce qu’on ne voit pas”) to illustrate why destruction, and the money spent to recover from destruction, is not actually a net benefit to society.

    The parable seeks to show how opportunity costs, as well as the law of unintended consequences, affect economic activity in ways that are unseen or ignored. The belief that destruction is good for the economy is consequently known as the broken window fallacy or glazier’s fallacy.

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  83. They are coming for Monty…

    The federal MP for Clark has introduced to parliament a bill focused on ‘loot boxes’, a video game feature where players gamble to win virtual assets, often with real money. The bill would regulate game classification, requiring all games that feature ‘loot boxes’ be clearly labelled and carry an R classification – ‘in line with the fact that you must be 18 to legally gamble’, Andrew Wilkie says

    ..

    Given Montyslugs activities over the last week i think we should form a pressure group to have the dangerous gateway activity that is so called fantasy football strictly regulated and only available to consenting adults after they have undertake a 5 day course in the dangers of the activity.

    based on the precautionary principle – if it prevents one waif from gambling later on – its worth it.

    But is there a danger to school-age students wagering money in their fantasy leagues? Do fantasy sports promote gambling habits that may spell disaster for school-age children if they carry those habits over into adulthood?

    I think at a minimum we must shut down the whole thing until a thorough investigation takes place.
    We must email Mr Wilkie immediately with our sensible precautions. Only vested interests would dispute the justice of our cause.
    Obviously people pushing this perverted product are the moral equivalent of child pornographers and pimps, and their squeals of piggy like outrage must be discounted.

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  84. “At the heart of the Liberal Party’s defeat in the Victorian election on Saturday is the paradox that in this, the most small “l” liberal state in Australia, the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right and is therefore at odds with the electorate whose support it seeks”

    I’m going to counteract Malturd’s malicious claims that the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right with evidence, coz I really like evidence…

    Evidence 1 – in March 2021, we watched as the West Australian Liberals veered even further to the left than WA Labor under Zac Cockup, the Liberal’s climate emissions targets made Labor’s look reasonable, so what happened? The Liberals lost in a landslide, the Liberal representation in the state parliament has been reduced to two or three seats (perhaps some WA Cat can confirm this).

    Evidence 2 – in March 2022, we watched a first-term South Australian Liberal government under Steven Marshmallow, a government that on just about every issue veered further left than SA Labor, from late-term abortion to euthanasia to green left climate targets, lose in a landslide.

    Evidence 3 – in November 2022 we witnessed a lame Victorian Liberal Party, under the quisling Matthew Guy, once again lose in a landslide to Labor, because all he and the party did was parrot Labor, tread softly, cower in the corner, smear and isolate core Liberal voters, and traduce men and women like Bernie Finn and Renee Heath.

    Evidence 4 – well I’m jumping the gun here but here’s my prediction, in March 2023 the NSW Liberal government will be consigned to the dustbin of history. This state government, the most left-wing Liberal government in the country, will be thrashed.

    So much for the Turd’s claim that “the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right“. He knows those words aren’t true, what he’s doing is deliberate gaslighting to undermine the party because he wants the party destroyed….and guess what, he’s succeeding.

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  85. Grey Ranga:

    How much do consultants donate to the Queensland government to report what they want to hear? In other news, dog wags tail.

    This is the same model as state funding for media. It’s all bribes and those who report bad news or news the government may not like don’t get the juicy ads.
    The model has just moved into a different market.

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  86. the dangerous gateway activity that is so called fantasy football

    An artery-hardening pastime notorious for being over-represented in active shooter events.

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  87. Cassie of Sydney:

    So much for the Turd’s claim that “the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right“. He knows those words aren’t true, what he’s doing is deliberate gaslighting to undermine the party because he wants the party destroyed….and guess what, he’s succeeding.

    I hope so.
    Because that would put our Pauline in line for the PMship. And that would be enough to cause a level of hysteria among the Left that would make the Krakatoa Eruption look like a popped pimple on Monty’s fat arse.

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  88. Except I think FitzSimian is being serious.

    Anyone writing what he writes and saying what he says as a piss-take would certainly have been caught cracking a little smile by now.

  89. What are the policies that supposedly make the Victorian Liberals hard-right?

    Gawd!

    No excuse – I just type slower than I extemporise.

  90. Saw an pithy comment the other day that I think puts Covid, Ukraine, Dan Andrews, pineapple on pizza, and the countless other things that threaten to overwhelm us all into perspective:

    The first person to hear a parrot speak will not have been OK for several days.

    Whoa, right?

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  91. monty take a bet?

    Hahaha!

    Put chocolate glazing and sprinkles on it and he would pounce on it.

    1
  92. the Liberal representation in the state parliament has been reduced to two or three seats (perhaps some WA Cat can confirm this).

    Two seats – the Nationals are now the Party of opposition.

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  93. the Liberal representation in the state parliament has been reduced to two or three seats

    Thats what happens when you put IT in charge of the party.
    We always knew his purported conservatism was as wide and deep as Malcolm’s.

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  94. Just saw sign today in Mudgee that the ANZ branch is permanently closing in April 2023. Already other branches in nearby towns have been closing several days a week and for lunch every day. It is heartbreaking to see the old and infirm, who still attend branches, with despair on their faces. Many have no idea how to do internet banking and others (like us!) are quite terrified of it after recent attacks by hackers.

    How are the few cheques in circulation to be cashed? And there are countless other situations that require banking facilities – as we recently discovered when a purchaser of our tractor paid with a bank cheque.

    Husband remarked that we are hurtling into a digital monetary future. I am no dope, but husband does the bookwork in our domain. Cannot imagine the learning curve should I have to take over this role.

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  95. PoliticsNow: National Party to oppose a voice to parliament in a referendum

    By Greg Brown
    and Jess Malcolm
    4:45AM November 28, 2022
    443 Comments

    1 hour ago

    The Nationals will oppose a voice to parliament.

    After a partyroom meeting in Canberra on Monday morning, the junior Coalition party has decided to oppose the proposal in a referendum.

    The issue is expected to be discussed in the joint Coalition partyroom on Tuesday.

    Nationals Leader David Littleproud said the party had consulted with architects of the Ulu?u Statement from the Heart Pat Anderson and Professor Megan Davis.

    CLP Senator for the NT Jacinta Price said the Party would not support a “failed model”.

    She slammed Minister for Indigenous Australians for going to Indigenous communities “dripping in Gucci” and telling First Nations’ people “what they need”.

    “We have to stop dividing this nation on the lines of race,” she said. “We will not be supporting a failed model.”

    “It’s not racist to disagree with a proposal … that lacks detail and divides us on the lines of race,” Senator Price said.

    “I hope the Voice is not successful.”

    Mr Littleproud said the Liberal Party’s position was a “matter for the Liberal Party”.

    “We are two separate parties. We have different values, different principles, different constituencies,” he said.

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  96. “After a partyroom meeting in Canberra on Monday morning, the junior Coalition party has decided to oppose the proposal in a referendum.”

    Good, showing some spine.

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  97. Subs R Us!

    Defence Minister Richard Marles has given the clearest indication yet that Labor will build nuclear submarines onshore in Australia.

    Speaking to the House of Representatives, Mr Marles said the government was on track to make an announcement in the first part of next year, and argued it would be one of Australia’s “great national endeavours”.
    “The Albanese government thinks very differently,” Mr Marles said. “We are not concerned about politics, we are only interested and focus on the national interest.

    “Working with our partners in the United Kingdom and the United States about what will be the optimal pathway for Australia’s future, nuclear powered submarines and we are on track to be able to make that announcement in the first part of next year and build nuclear submarines in this country will be one of Australia’s great national endeavours.

    “It will transform our strategic posture. It will build our sovereignty and it will empower Australia as a nation.”

    Daily Tele

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  98. we are on track to be able to make that announcement in the first part of next year and build nuclear submarines in this country will be one of Australia’s great national endeavours.

    I’ll say it’ll be a great national endeavour. Welding hulls only when the wind blows and the sun shines, will take some world class coordination and project management.

    Kinda ironic really.

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  99. North-Eastern Metropolitan Region
    Total enrolment as close of rolls: 546503
    Formal votes: 179591
    Informal votes: 6351 (3.42% of the total votes)
    Total votes: 185942 (34.02% of the total enrolment at the close of rolls)

    34% bothered to vote? Can I believe these numbers?

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  100. Philosophy behind bars

    Duration: 30 minutes 30m

    HMP Pentonville, London, where Andy West is philosopher in residence

    What does it mean to study and teach philosophy in prison? Andy West has been teaching philosophy in prisons since 2015, and his memoir The Life Inside is a fascinating account of this experience – as well as a reflection on inherited trauma and the fact that his father, uncle and brother all spent time behind bars.

    Little room for airy abstractions in this classroom. One student, obviously moved by a discussion of a Sam Harris point stood up and announced ‘I’m going to take a shit.’ West’s comment: ‘It was like something out of Diogenes, performative vse argument.’

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  101. m0nty says:
    November 28, 2022 at 9:56 am

    However, a network of professionals could allow you to circumvent monitored transactions, and a whole range of ways to buck the tyranny. You may not feel quite so helpless.

    A “network of professionals”, eh. Is that what they call organised crime these days.

    Nah. I wasn’t suggesting letting each other off the obligation to undertake a breathalyser after an accident, colluding to use taxpayer funds to campaign, or anything criminal like that.

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  102. Per the RBA…
    “I’m sorry if people listened to what we’d said….”

    Even for the RBA this is embarrassing.
    “How about you guys just sit the next one out?”

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  103. I don’t feel so bad about blackballing Zac Kirkup at the Weld Club after Saturday. It’s the zeitgeist.

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  104. So much for the Turd’s claim that “the Liberal Party has been taken over by the hard right“. He knows those words aren’t true, what he’s doing is deliberate gaslighting to undermine the party because he wants the party destroyed….and guess what, he’s succeeding.

    We can only hope he succeeds. And Howard is there for lunch when the walls collapse inwards.

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  105. This one’s for agricultural Cats – Harvesting Calibre H1 wheat, at 4.2 tonnes to the hectare…….

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  106. I don’t feel so bad about blackballing Zac Kirkup at the Weld Club after Saturday

    In my day, he would be horsewhipped, in the street.

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  107. HD diesel fitter rate (via employment agency) cost.

    $115 an hour.

    2 weeks onsite, cost $36,000

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  108. Queensland Senator Demands National Security Alert over WEF Global Domination

    From Armstrong Economics –

    “Klaus Schwab has publicly boasted about infiltrating government cabinets around the world. His plans for the Great Reset are public information that anyone can access. The World Economic Forum (WEF) molds its Young Leaders as they see fit and strategically places them in positions of power throughout every global agency and government. The agenda has never been a mystery, as Schwab states his intentions on his website, in books, and in every interview. His ideas seem so outlandish to the average person that they have been dismissed as merely a conspiracy, with Schwab being seen as an eccentric billionaire who wants to better the world.

    Senator Malcolm Roberts from Queensland is now demanding answers. Schwab’s growing infiltration of government should have triggered a National Security Alert, Roberts said. No one voted for Schwab or the WEF to lead them. “Parliament belongs to no one but the Australian people,” Roberts firmly stated.

    Roberts has been speaking out against the WEF for some time. If the Great Reset is a conspiracy theory, why are governments following the WEF’s policies? “The Global Identity Project is designed to shift the global economy away from private ownership and into what the WEF calls an “access model” where you own nothing but rent goods and services from the world’s billionaires and billionaire corporations,” Roberts explained earlier in the year. He warned that they are using “sustainability” as a lie to turn the public into slaves who have no power over their government and will create a closed-loop economy.

    Schwab and his WEF are indeed a threat to national security across the globe. Who are they paying, and how has he successfully infiltrated governments across the world? Leaders like Trudeau, who blatantly follow Schwab’s advice, are not fit to lead and should be investigated for their part in destroying the world economy to Build [it] Back Better.”

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/wef/queensland-senator-demands-national-security-alert-over-wef-domination/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

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  109. In 1992, Victorian Labor was crushed by a Jeff Kennett Coalition. Labor at that election secured 38.41% primary vote.
    In 2022, Labor is heading for a 35 to 36% primary vote
    64% did not vote for Victorian Labor. Close to 3 million voters.

    So Kennett had a landslide when Labor got 38% first preferences, that means that the utterly useless Libs didn’t get the votes, people voted for other parties. Plus the way many seats are composed it does tilt ( a little) towards Labor. Oh well 4 more years of wasting billions of $ and more corruption and brutality. Some people want that, and they’re going to get it. good and hard.

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  110. ‘Being heard is better than being seen’: supermodel Paulina Porizkova on living ‘unfiltered’
    Paulina Porizkova, one of the great supermodels of the 80s, has refound fame – as ‘the lady who cries on Instagram’. It began with the death of and betrayal by her husband of 30 years

    obvious a 9 on the crazy hot matrix. balls her eyes out because her husband cut her out of his will while they were separating. a self-centred, selfish, entitled, narcissist.

    who posts video of themselves balling their eyes out on instagram?

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  111. Oh well 4 more years of wasting billions of $ and more corruption and brutality. Some people want that, and they’re going to get it. good and hard.

    And more covid restrictions. Mark my words.

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  112. Chris Kenny: Liberals/Conservatives should differentiate themselves from the Green Left.
    But: when Nationals including Jacinta Price come out and oppose his pet project The Voice, he says No!
    Rowan Dean, on the other hand, has opposed The Voice vigorously.
    I like Chris, but on the voice topic he’s lacking his usual judgement.

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  113. 4m ago
    Nationals’ opposition to Voice unanimous: Price
    Georgia Clelland
    GEORGIA CLELLAND

    Country Liberal Party Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, a driving force behind guiding the Nationals towards their position against the Voice to Parliament, said the decision was unanimous.

    “It was a whole party process that we decided to do as a party to understand both sides of the argument. We believe in being well-informed before making a decision and coming to a position” Senator Price told the ABC’s Afternoon Briefing.

    “It was something that we all did together as a party.”

    Senator Price said she would spearhead the party’s no campaign, following conversations with First Nations people across the country.

    “I’ve been in conversations with indigenous Australians across the country about this and with people who are feeling like they are not being heard throughout the debate so far,” Senator Price said.

    “It will be about amplifying their voices.”

    Senator Price called for the federal government to equally fund a yes and no campaign.

    “I think it is clear that the government are already funding the yes campaign through their budget in other ways” she said.

    “To say that they are going to come out and not have any funding for a yes and no campaign is a little bit deceitful.

    “They have put millions of dollars toward this referendum without the budget through organisations like an IAAF. They should be funding a yes and no campaign.”

    Ms Price said she had spoken to many “everyday Aussies” who were prepared to support the no campaign with their own money.

    “There are Australians out there who are prepared to support a no campaign and there are plenty going to bankroll a yes campaign” she said.

    “I have everyday Australians who say they are prepared to reach into their pockets for this. There are certainly many individuals who say that they are prepared to put some funding behind a no campaign.”

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  114. Johnny Rotten:
    I’d like to see just who are the WEF Young Leaders.
    It would be very instructive to find out who they are. and yet I’ve never seen a full list – just the occasional few names.

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  115. The federal MP for Clark has introduced to parliament a bill focused on ‘loot boxes’, a video game feature where players gamble to win virtual assets, often with real money. The bill would regulate game classification, requiring all games that feature ‘loot boxes’ be clearly labelled and carry an R classification – ‘in line with the fact that you must be 18 to legally gamble’, Andrew Wilkie says

    Mole, that has nothing at all to do with fantasy football, so it doesn’t affect my core business in the slightest.

    It does, however, potentially impact on my new venture into developing a mobile game, which will eventually feature loot boxes and will be marketed at a broad audience. If that is the way the law goes, so be it.

  116. Victorians no longer care which way the pineapple is inserted. Give it to me harder. Doesn’t it hurt. No no, harder. Talk about battered voter syndrome. The Russians knew they were being lied to in the Soviet era. Australians would have believed it.

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  117. I like Chris, but on the voice topic he’s lacking his usual judgement.

    He has a complete blind spot about this and every other aspect of the 3rd nations.

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  118. the way the collection is able to convey, through an object, the story of human experience, or even a history of the world. I am truly thrilled to be taking on the role of Director at such an exciting moment in this organisation’s development.

    Her big contribution has been to close an important part of the Wellcome collection due to its lack of diversity. It’s colonialist, racist, ablist, sexist and all of the other ists so it’s gotta go.

    Too bad about the ‘story of human experience’ that it represents. That obviously didn’t mean a thing to her.

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  119. He has a complete blind spot about this and every other aspect of the 3rd nations.

    Kenny played a pretty high profile role in Hindmarsh Island in Radelaide. Complete blackfella bullshit. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got some blowback which colours (no pun intended) his judgment.

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  120. cohenitesays:
    November 28, 2022 at 5:29 pm
    I like Chris, but on the voice topic he’s lacking his usual judgement.

    He has a complete blind spot about this and every other aspect of the 3rd nations.

    He is probably still scarred by his efforts in the Hindmarsh Island fraud.

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  121. Australia is fucked:

    In a historic ruling today, a Queensland court has said the massive Clive Palmer-owned Galilee Basin coal project should not go ahead because of its contribution to climate change, its environmental impacts, and because it would erode human rights.

    The case was mounted in 2020 by a First Nations-led group of young people aged 13 to 30 called Youth Verdict. It was the first time human rights arguments were used in a climate change case in Australia.

    The link between human rights and climate change is being increasingly recognised overseas. In September this year, for example, a United Nations committee decided that by failing to adequately address the climate crisis, Australia’s Coalition government violated the human rights of Torres Strait Islanders.

    Youth Verdict’s success today builds on this momentum. It heralds a new era for climate change cases in Australia by youth activists, who have been frustrated with the absence of meaningful federal government policy.

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  122. Kenny hysterical when talking to Littleproud, talking all over him as he calmly outlines the shittiness of the voice. Littleproud keeps saying “with respect” and sums up everything gutless about the LNP. Kenny is insane about this and Littleproud should call him a fuckwit and be done with it.

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  123. Anything covid can’t do? Brief description of some bloke’s antics at the Hun:

    ‘A married Victorian teacher said he was lonely during Covid lockdowns when he sent a picture of himself with his pants pulled down to a 14-year-old student.’

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  124. Kenny played a pretty high profile role in Hindmarsh Island in Radelaide. Complete blackfella bullshit

    From memory, he wrote a book about the whole scam.

    1
  125. There is a “reality” program now screening on Nine that has a premise so creepy it beggars belief.

    My Mum Your Dad…follows single parents who are looking to find love again while secretly being observed by their adult children.

    Hard to imagine what type of people participate in something like this. And the type who watch.

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  126. cohenitesays:
    November 28, 2022 at 5:42 pm
    Australia is fucked:

    In a historic ruling today, a Queensland court has said the massive Clive Palmer-owned Galilee Basin coal project should not go ahead because of its contribution to climate change, its environmental impacts, and because it would erode human rights.

    Madness. Buyers will just get coal from elsewhere as Australia becomes an impoverished Woke, broke shit hole.

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  127. If the “apology” from the Reserve Bank governor doesn’t come with a resignation, then it isn’t a sincere apology at all. Just mouth movements.

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  128. C.L. has an excellent opinion piece on the Galilee decision, and a window into the exoskeletons involved.

    4
  129. Littleproud keeps saying “with respect”

    Littleproud may be playing the old Army game – any sentence that begins “With respect” goes on to contain none of that quality.

    1
  130. Speaking of exoskeletons*, I wish I could borrow one. I have done myself a great mischief…rushing about, as per usual.

    The physiotherapist has been engaged…the pain killers are kicking in.

    Comments may be somewhat impaired and erratic. Please let out some slack. 😀

    * I want one like Ripley’s

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  131. Kenny played a pretty high profile role in Hindmarsh Island in Radelaide. Complete blackfella bullshit. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got some blowback which colours (no pun intended) his judgment.

    Hindmarsh Island. A blast from the past, that one. Wasn’t the Aboriginal Affairs Minister, one Robert Tickner – the Chris Bowen of his day in Keating’s Ministry.

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  132. “I like Chris, but on the voice topic he’s lacking his usual judgement.”

    I like Chris Kenny too but he lacks judgement on two things….the Voice and canines.

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  133. Cali, maybe it’s one of those NRL apologies.

    Along the lines of “I screwed the trusting Australian public in the men’s loo and uploaded the film to Instagram. But they were asking for it. Sorry.”

    That type of apology?

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  134. C.L. has an excellent opinion piece on the Galilee decision, and a window into the exoskeletons involved.

    Do you have a link?

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  135. Hindmarsh Island. A blast from the past, that one. Wasn’t the Aboriginal Affairs Minister, one Robert Tickner – the Chris Bowen of his day in Keating’s Ministry.

    He certainly was . The whole Hindmarsh Island fiasco was credited with converting a Liberal win, in 1996, into a landslide.

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  136. There is a “reality” program now screening on Nine that has a premise so creepy it beggars belief.

    The die was set with queer eye for the straight guy. If you can convince some hopeless schlub to get plastic surgery and a hair transplant for the big reveal to a pack of braying donkeys you can get them to do anything.

    On a side note, painkillers go quite well with booze, as long as chainsaws are not involved.

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  137. calli says:
    November 28, 2022 at 5:59 pm
    There is a “reality” program now screening on Nine that has a premise so creepy it beggars belief.
    My Mum Your Dad…follows single parents who are looking to find love again while secretly being observed by their adult children.
    Hard to imagine what type of people participate in something like this. And the type who watch.

    Agreed. What an appalling premise. I saw one of the promo’s and there was some entitled daughter saying how she had cast judgement on her mother’s boyfriends and most were a “hard no”. Then, she went on to say that she just wants her mum to be happy and meet a good man. (provided, apparently, that the daughter agrees with the choice).

    What self-respecting adult in their 40s and 50s would subject themselves to such a show. It seems to me that dignity has long since died in this country.

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  138. If the “apology” from the Reserve Bank governor doesn’t come with a resignation, then it isn’t a sincere apology at all. Just mouth movements.

    Another useless piece of highly paid trash that’s never had a real job. Idiocracy indeed.

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  139. What self-respecting adult in their 40s and 50s would subject themselves to such a show. It seems to me that dignity has long since died in this country.

    It’s probably a concept bought from a US network. Every day the meja prove what steaming trash they are.

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  140. Do people still watch TV? I haven’t for years unless it’s rammed down my throat in public places.

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  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    November 28, 2022 at 6:17 pm
    The whole Hindmarsh Island fiasco……

    Fiasco? I’m not so sure ZK2A. From the air, the lakes of the near Coorong to the Murray Mouth does resemble a woman’s biology so it is possible that early aboriginals in their flying machines (or possibly using drones) noticed the resemblance and thus the aboriginal women declared it secret women’s business. We should ask Bruce Pascoe – he would know about early aboriginal aviation.

    (I don’t really need to add a /sarc do I?)

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  142. What self-respecting adult in their 40s and 50s would subject themselves to such a show.

    Hunchback voters.

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  143. I would also like a complete list of WEF ‘young leaders’. The ones I know about seem to be more in the lieboral pardy.

    2
  144. The Australian Government Lied: Doctors are NOT covered by Government’s indemnity for Covid Injections

    My heart bleeds.

    2
  145. The RBA likes insiders. Unfortunately they aren’t as successful as the Geelong footy club at it.

    1
  146. Do people still watch TV? I haven’t for years unless it’s rammed down my throat in public places.

    Not me, got rid of it years ago and the process was completely painless. The thing that jumps out at you when you do is how heavy handed the social engineering aspect of it all is. They’re not subtle in how they push “the message”. Also of note, once you lose familiarity with the current crop of haircuts is how ridiculous they seem as people. Vile creatures.

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  147. Vile creatures.

    yes they really are. TV would have to be one of the most evil inventions of the 20th century.

  148. How about a royal reality program?

    ‘Most passionate kiss I’ve ever had’: Duke of Sussex’s ex-lover opens up about her fling with Prince Harry before he met Meghan (Sky, 28 Nov)

    “Real Housewives of D.C. star Catherine Ommanney has opened up about her “passionate” fling with Prince Harry before he met his wife Meghan Markle, revealing their first kiss left her “speechless”.”

    Meghan said to be miffed about access to royal jewels (27 Nov)

    “Meghan Markle is said to be fuming that she has no access to the royal jewels. At King Charles III’s first state dinner for South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, Queen Consort Camilla wore a diamond and sapphire tiara that belonged to Queen Elizabeth II, while the Princess of Wales, Kate, wore the pearl and diamond tiara that was the favorite crown of the late Princess Diana. Markle is said to feel left out.”

    I hope she runs for President of the United States as some say she wants to (and they want it too). That’d be a nation-sized reality TV show.

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  149. Do people still watch TV? I haven’t for years unless it’s rammed down my throat in public places.

    Not since the faggot marriage disgrace.

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  150. We should ask Bruce Pascoe – he would know about early aboriginal aviation.

    Wasn’t it Bruce Pascoe who floated the theory that Aboriginal pilots, flying strike fighters, were to have intercepted the First Fleet, and sunk it with all hands, but they were all away on secret “Men’s business” that day?

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  151. callisays:
    November 28, 2022 at 6:16 pm
    Here, Cohenite.

    I like “juris-vibence”. He has a lovely way with words.

    Thanks calli but my Norton won’t let me access the page!

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  152. You had all the names of the WEF young leaders given to you time and again and proof of their WEF affiliations.
    The people supplying you this information from 2020 onwards were the people you ignored or called conspiracy theorists while you shit yourselves and lost all grey matter to the fear propaganda.

    Try Greg Hunt
    Go to his official web page where he brags about not only being an award winning WEF graduate but was a senior player in developing their strategies.

    Just do that one thing and then understand this information has been presented here dozens of times and been scoffed at.
    The head cricket watcher..the Norm of Darwin….ex Vicplod trash still does scoff.

    I could point out many more traitors from Jane Holton to Sarah sea Patrol and many others.
    Overseas Trudeau Boris, the PM of Holland, the new PM of Britain and on and on the lists go.

    But fuck yaz.

    We did tell you about all this.
    You just didn’t want to know.

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  153. How Long Would Society Last During a Total Grid Collapse?

    Should be essential watching for all high school students to really give them something to worry about rather than climate emergency and extinction rebellion shouting. The penny might drop about the disaster they are participating in bringing about with their green fantasies, if there was a following discussion on baseload power and its main sources. Insane messing around with complex networks of power in a distributed grid could land us in very hot water and it would be good for young people to consider this when being seduced by green climateers.

    The wooly and waffling Teals swept into Parliament recently also could do with a dose of this reality.

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  154. Meghan Markle is said to be fuming that she has no access to the royal jewels

    But they have a kid.

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  155. Also, you could Google The Currency Lad and he comes up tops.

    That’s all I got. My knowledge of firewalls and filters is half of buggerall.

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  156. Mole, that has nothing at all to do with fantasy football, so it doesn’t affect my core business in the slightest.

    It does, however, potentially impact on my new venture into developing a mobile game, which will eventually feature loot boxes and will be marketed at a broad audience. If that is the way the law goes, so be it.

    And there we have it.

    Not content with pipelining young, impressionable tweens into a lifetime of gambling, misery, wife beating and early death he admits to planning “loot boxes”, obviously in order to force female players to have to sell their “boxes” for “loot” to keep playing.
    Is there no low this depraved co-morbid manatee of malfeasance wont sink too?

    Worse than Stalin.

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  157. “Meghan Markle is said to be fuming that she has no access to the royal jewels. At King Charles III’s first state dinner for South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, Queen Consort Camilla wore a diamond and sapphire tiara that belonged to Queen Elizabeth II, while the Princess of Wales, Kate, wore the pearl and diamond tiara that was the favorite crown of the late Princess Diana. Markle is said to feel left out.”

    Of course you are left out, you silly woman. You’ve rejected the responsibilities and service requirements of being a dignified Royal, so don’t expect the diamonds that are part of the deal.

    Get Harry to buy you an inferior little million dollar coronet that have to will do.
    You can’t compete in the crown jewels game called provenance, so accept yer lot.

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  158. In February 2020, the Morrison government joined with Labor and the Greens to censure Bettina Arndt.

    As we approach the end of 2022, the Albanese government intends to censure Scott Morrison over his accumulation of portfolios.

    Please forgive my schadenfreude.

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  159. How do you get to be the PM of Finland while still going clubbing and not long after having your first period?

    They are laughing at us.

    Well actually. ..they’re laughing at you.

    You were told.
    Where’s Choo Choo?

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  160. I see that there has been discussion this afternoon of the wisdom of Malcolm Turnbull, also known as a legend in his own mind. He was kind enough to bestow on us commoners the pearls of his wisdom as to why Victorian Libs lost the election. He is never backward in coming forward.

    I may have mentioned this before, a former work colleague used to study law at Sydney University at the same time as Malcolm. She remembers him as being lazy and usually late with his work yet so egotistical that he still expected to do better than everyone else. Nothing seems to have changed since then.

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  161. Cassie, re ScoMo parliamentary censure, we should enjoy the schadenfreude whenever we can. They are few and far between so let’s make the most of it.

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  162. In recent weeks, 50 of the top 100 advertisers have either announced or simply stopped advertising on Twitter. These advertisers have accounted for nearly $2 billion in spending on the platform since 2020, and over $750 million in advertising in 2022 alone. There are an additional seven advertisers which appear to be slowing the rate of their advertising on the platform to almost nothing. Since 2020, these seven advertisers have accounted for over $255 million in spending on Twitter, and nearly $118 million in advertising in 2022.

    Abbott Laboratories
    Allstate Corporation
    AMC Networks
    American Express Company
    AT&T
    Big Heart Petcare
    BlackRock, Inc.
    BlueTriton Brands, Inc.
    Boston Beer Company
    CA Lottery (California State Lottery)
    CenturyLink (Lumen Technologies, Inc.)
    Chanel
    Chevrolet*
    Chipotle Mexican Grill, Inc.*
    Citigroup, Inc.
    CNN
    Dell
    Diageo
    DirecTV
    Discover Financial Services
    Fidelity
    First National Realty Partners
    Ford*
    Heineken N.V.
    Hewlett-Packard (HP)
    Hilton Worldwide
    Inspire Brands, Inc.
    Jeep*
    Kellogg Company
    Kohl’s Department Stores, Inc.
    Kyndryl*
    LinkedIn Corporation
    MailChimp (The Rocket Science Group)
    Marriott International, Inc.
    Mars Petcare
    Mars, Incorporated
    Merck & Co. (Merck Sharp & Dohme MSD)*
    Meta Platforms, Inc. (formerly Facebook, Inc.)
    MoneyWise (Wise Publishing, Inc.)
    Nestle
    Novartis AG*
    Pernod Ricard
    PlayPass
    The Coca-Cola Company
    The Kraft Heinz Company
    Tire Rack
    Verizon
    Wells Fargo
    Whole Foods Market IP
    Yum! Brands

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  163. Are any of Elizabeth Taylor’s jewels available for sale, the baubles Richard Burton bought her? If they are Harry can purchase them for Meghan , it’s only fitting now that they have taken up their reign in the Kingdom of Hollywood.

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  164. Meghan Markle is said to be fuming that she has no access to the royal jewels

    she’ll just have to settle for the pair of royal baubles she already has firmly in hand

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  165. Working with our partners in the United Kingdom and the United States about what will be the optimal pathway for Australia’s future, nuclear powered submarines and we are on track to be able to make that announcement in the first part of next year and build nuclear submarines in this country will be one of Australia’s great national endeavours.

    ..
    Bravo.
    After that partner with states and do some nuke power stations.

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  166. In recent weeks, 50 of the top 100 advertisers have either announced or simply stopped advertising on Twitter.

    Excellent. Not only do we now know who not to buy stuff from, but Elon will have to fire even more lefties to get the thing into the black. Win win!

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  167. Yes I know.

    I use the word denialism a lot.

    Why?
    If you are in denial you will shut out all evidence that we have already been taken over by what are basically communists.
    Why would you want to do this?
    Because to admit the truth you would then have to come to the conclusion that you fell for communist fear propaganda and let people who want you dead and your civilisation obliterated…inject you.

    You won’t do that!

    See how it works?
    Because you are in denial due to never admitting you let them jab you…anti western commies…..you delude yourselves that the Victorian elections were all above board.

    Like they are in every communist shit hole.

    It was just the silly voters!

    This is sickening to observe.
    This cognitive dissonance.
    This denialism.

    As I said before the farce called a state election in what is now a communist nation…….Dan Andrews was going to win.
    Even if nobody voted for him.

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  168. Watching on e of those DashCam videos and I’ve come to a couple of conclusions:
    .1 Australian is one of the worlds most boring languages to swear in,
    .2 Far too many Australian drivers brake instead of just ramming the idiots who do idiotic things.

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  169. Ok; I’ve read the Judgment: it’s straight out of the IPCC bible of climate doom.

    So the no brainer is buy existing good quality Aussie Coal Cos. Competition is being locked in the ground.

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