Open Thread – Tue 13 Dec 2022


The Census at Bethlehem, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1566


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Mater
December 15, 2022 1:13 pm

“I was trying to convince her to stay, and I said, ‘I should hold you down and force it into you’, and her face just dropped … and her eyes got wide with horror.”

Hmmm, yes. My father said the same thing to me.
“Try it!”, was my response.

They live amongst us.

You just want to hope these same people don’t want a kidney at some point.
Hide, and make sure you take your children with you.

m0nty
m0nty
December 15, 2022 1:13 pm

Pretty shallow to think that ethnicity is the deciding factor so let’s put up a Chinese in BH.

I presume she was a fine candidate who was chosen because of that, not just an identity thing. But she was pushing the proverbial uphill as a member of a party that doesn’t really address the issues at play in her electorate.

C.L.
C.L.
December 15, 2022 1:15 pm

Sky capitulated to the far-left Twitter mobs re Jones.

Rowan Dean is forced by management to insert “ATAGI insists the vaccines are safe and effective” in every one of his segments on injuries etc.

I generally agree with Rowan but I do wish somebody would tell him that a lecturette is not a question. Let your guests speak, ffs. A common problem on Sky.

Kneel
Kneel
December 15, 2022 1:15 pm

” What costs more …a trophy wife or a prostitute?

Do we ask Mrs Struth?

Or the boat?”

He’s back, baby!

How was the afterlife, Rexy?

Zipster
Zipster
December 15, 2022 1:17 pm

Rowan Dean is forced by management to insert “ATAGI insists the vaccines are safe and effective” in every one of his segments on injuries etc.

ATAGI are a tentacle of big pharma

2dogs
December 15, 2022 1:23 pm

Turducken will be replaced by Pelieagkooka?

Octurcrab.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 15, 2022 1:25 pm

I generally agree with Rowan but I do wish somebody would tell him that a lecturette is not a question. Let your guests speak, ffs. A common problem on Sky.

That’s what drives me spare about Rowan. When he gets wound up he won’t stop. He talks over Rita and repeats himself too much. He’s on our side but goes on with hyperbole.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 1:31 pm

Octurcrab.

The googly eyes really do make it. 🙂

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 1:34 pm

How was the afterlife, Rexy?

Gypsum.

Gypsum everywhere….
O_O

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2022 1:35 pm

Yep
Rowan needs a chill pill.
His co-panelists have a measured and acerbic take on matters that is more appealing to a wide audience.
Like a good coach he needs to deliver the rant briefly and selectively so team stays cohesive and focussed.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 1:37 pm

Did those two guys die of the vaxx or from a pre-existing aneurism and suicide?

Both things can’t be true. Only one is.

Don’t like being questioned? Lump it.

bespoke
bespoke
December 15, 2022 1:38 pm

My Mil who is of your generation also worked in factories and other labouring jobs until she bought the pub in her late fifties. Last time I visited her and I tramed two loaders at night to the other end of the station. Point being the emotionally fragile and helpless female has always been an upper middle class thing.
I blame big white goods and “I love lucy”.

Btw: “feminist literati” is what you’ve described yourself in the past.

Vicki
Vicki
December 15, 2022 1:38 pm

Lizzie – re bridge replacement.

Years ago a dentist told me the same thing – “it is failing”, he said. Since it had been installed by a well known prosthodontist in the city, I was very doubtful and refused to have it replaced. It is still functional (touch wood!) some 15 years later.

Said dentist had embarked upon a (then) $40,000 replacement of fillings etc. He didn’t get past 1 sector of mouth after causing immense pain through faulty work. He refused to acknowledge one crown was faulty when I had referred pain up one side of my face. I eventually consulted an endodontist who opened up the crown and found infection beneath it. He solved several months of facial pain and, to this day, I regard him as an angel.

The careless dentist who caused the problem has now had to move to modest premises as patients progressively left the practice. I have now a very good dentist and a fantastic oral surgeon in the same practice who recently installed an implant. I had always been fearful of implants but he did a wonderful job.

Zipster
Zipster
December 15, 2022 1:41 pm
calli
calli
December 15, 2022 1:42 pm

I’ve tried soldering. Hopeless at it. Far prefer hammering in nails.

Plenty of female riveters in aircraft factories during the war. Or messing around with boiling gluepots and dripping brushes. Or being poisoned slowly in armaments production lines.

will
will
December 15, 2022 1:43 pm

Luigi is certifiably insane:

We’re back at Parliament today to take action on energy prices.

Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine has caused massive price spikes around the world.

And a wasted decade of opposition to renewable energy has left Australia vulnerable to these global shocks.

will
will
December 15, 2022 1:44 pm

and Bowen:

The Government’s Energy Price Relief Bill has passed the House of Representatives 85 votes to 40.

The cross-bench overwhelming supported our plan to cap gas prices and provide rebates.

The LNP did not.

bespoke
bespoke
December 15, 2022 1:45 pm

Plenty of female riveters in aircraft factories during the war

And flew them too.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 15, 2022 1:46 pm

Staying at the expat area with friends in Banglamung Thailand atm. Quite a few very successful people retired or working round here. On hearing Albo plans for Australia & gas/coal have heard the terms sovereign risk mentioned more than once. This government is playing with fire..

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 1:48 pm

The cross-bench overwhelming supported our plan to cap gas prices and provide rebates.

The LNP did not.

Someone with a credential and industry experience probably explained to those dratted LNPists that hyper-regulation and money-go-rounds don’t work the way you think they do, [Dis]Honourable Mr. Bowen.

Something they’re either too scared (or too on the take) to risk with you…

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 15, 2022 1:49 pm

Riot police are battling to maintain order as French and Moroccan football supporters clashed in cities across France and Belgium following the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Scenes from the southern French cities of Montpellier and Nice saw fans fighting in the streets, launching flares at one another and setting fire to rubbish bins in the streets while cops brandished batons and used water cannons to quell the unrest.

In Brussels meanwhile, roughly 100 Moroccan fans gathered near Brussels South station, throwing fireworks and other objects at lines of police dressed in riot gear but dispersed quickly when tear gas was deployed.

Some 10,000 police officers in France and Belgium were gearing up for carnage on the streets tonight after Les Bleus dumped underdogs Morocco out of the World Cup. Around 2,200 officers, many of them equipped with riot gear, are stationed in Paris alone with police vans and barricades lining the Champs-Elysees.

France and Belgium are both home to a large Moroccan community, many of whom have dual citizenship.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 1:49 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
December 15, 2022 at 1:35 pm

Yep
Rowan needs a chill pill.
His co-panelists have a measured and acerbic take on matters that is more appealing to a wide audience.
Like a good coach he needs to deliver the rant briefly and selectively so team stays cohesive and focussed.

Agreed and it’s why, nowadays, I almost never make it through to the end of Outsiders. Bolt drives me bonkers for the same irritating reason – constant interjections. Bernardi almost never interrupts. Be that as it may, it is the main reason I am watching less and less of Sky. Another reason:- I am sick of the same faces being wheeled out again and again as panel members or commentators. Fresh faces would go a long way to improve the programmes.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 1:49 pm

Also, wot RockDoc said…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 1:50 pm

Scenes from the southern French cities of Montpellier and Nice saw fans fighting in the streets, launching flares at one another and setting fire to rubbish bins in the streets while cops brandished batons and used water cannons to quell the unrest.

One can only imagine the carnage if they had won…

Zipster
Zipster
December 15, 2022 1:56 pm
Kneel
Kneel
December 15, 2022 1:56 pm

“I’ve tried soldering. Hopeless at it.”

Two tricks:
The “job” (both parts) need to be hot enough to melt the solder.
If you have a concave meniscus it’s probably a good job, if it’s convex it’s probably bad.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 1:56 pm

The World Will Be A Global Version of Nazi Germany – David Icke

Nope, Brazil- the movie version.

Makka
Makka
December 15, 2022 1:57 pm

Here’s Creepy Joe trying to hand out presents to the kids. Trouble is, they don’t want to know him. Maybe their smart parents told them to stay away from the creepy guy;

https://twitter.com/CariKelemen/status/1602642444994191363

Your hero, right mOron?

struth
struth
December 15, 2022 1:58 pm

Fuck off Calli.

“She does her own research”

That’s if research means going hysterical about Italy and believing all fear porn calling everyone nanna killers in2020 and then trying to justify her gullibility for years later at the cost of muddying the truth whenever she can with narry a fuck given that she may influence people to take the jab in a weak moment

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2022 1:59 pm

Harvest update.
Thanks to cold and damp weather it’s only this afternoon that headers are rolling again. Moisture in cereals has been too high and just creeping below the receival standard.
Our machine is still being fixed. The new rotor gear box was fitted yesterday but the mechanics found burnt wiring looms from a small dust fire we had last year when stripping lentils. It didn’t stop the header but it’s only a matter of time before the bare wires touch and you get a malfunction or another fire.
If the looms arrive from Sydney today it will take three hours to fit and we’ll get going on Friday or maybe Saturday depending on the final fault code check.

Kneel
Kneel
December 15, 2022 2:00 pm

” [Dis]Honourable Mr. Bowen.”

While “Honourable” is traditional, although very debatable, “Member” is clearly more often than not accurate – never forget they are a Member!

mc
mc
December 15, 2022 2:01 pm

ATAGI are a tentacle of big pharma

Does anyone know if the mRNA vaxxes have been fully approved yet? If not, why are they still available? It was my understanding that they were conditionally approved because of the pandemic and no treatments were available.

Since there are now treatments available (I saw the ads on the telly) and the pandemic orders have been lifted, surely the conditional approval should no longer stand.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 2:02 pm

trying to justify her gullibility for years later at the cost of muddying the truth

Speaking of which, whatever happened to all those dongas at Wellcamp, Struth?

#Dude,Where’sMyDeAtHcAmP?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 2:03 pm

I find it difficult to believe this is just a feint.

I said the same thing about the collapse at Kherson…

C.L.
C.L.
December 15, 2022 2:03 pm

Another reason:- I am sick of the same faces being wheeled out again and again as panel members or commentators.

Teena McQueen, what do you make of today’s nuclear fusion breakthrough?

shatterzzz
December 15, 2022 2:03 pm

renters move away from gas in their homes.
Why is this ridiculous statement from the gummint being given a pass by the media? ..
Renters have NO say, whatsoever, in the energy supply to premises and, definitely, no input regarding choice .. yet Labor makes a misleading & ludicrous statement and it gets a ‘free” ride! ..

mc
mc
December 15, 2022 2:05 pm

” [Dis]Honourable Mr. Bowen.”

I worked at a legal practice some time ago. The lawyer’s assistant that I shared an office with told me one day, “Never use a Bowen Therapist, we have recently acted for three different ones for sex offences”. I wonder if there is anything in that?

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 15, 2022 2:07 pm

Bachman
@ElonBachman

Your grandfather at 30: ransacking forgotten reliquaries, compiling penetrating ethnographies

You at 30: trawling forgotten ethnographies, making powerful memes

Your grandson at 30: deciphering forgotten frog memes, reaching for the stars

m0nty
m0nty
December 15, 2022 2:07 pm

David Icke

Zippy quietly rolling out an anti-Semitic source like we won’t notice.

I hope db deletes that link and gives Zippy a talking to.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 15, 2022 2:10 pm

ATAGI are a tentacle of big pharma

Just like hentai is a tentacle of big porn (or so I’ve been told)

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 2:12 pm

From Bruce’s link-
some prescient advice: “If the solution is complicated, you are probably wrong.”
Ockham’s Razor, cutting through centuries and continents. I’m peeved that the term has been owned in Australia by the painfully autosphincterted RN program, wherein a Science Communicator has spent half a century proposing convoluted communism as a solution for non-existent problems.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 2:13 pm

I’m staying. Why don’t you push off and have a whinge about me at psycho-blog?

It will do you the world of good and I don’t have to read it.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 2:15 pm

To the stock hounds:

I have gone deep into CAD/MTL again.

Either genius or the gold standard in stupidity.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 2:16 pm
Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 2:17 pm

“Or so I have been told, by men of culture…that’s what people are saying…”

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 2:17 pm

Either genius or the gold standard in stupidity.

The rallying cry of “We can stay retarded longer than you can stay solvent!” still stands, Dot…

local oaf
December 15, 2022 2:17 pm

Two tricks:
The “job” (both parts) need to be hot enough to melt the solder.
If you have a concave meniscus it’s probably a good job, if it’s convex it’s probably bad.

They taught us that the first rule of soldering, was to make sure that both parts were thoroughly clean and in good mechanical contact.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 2:18 pm

Oh. And try not to lie about what I said, Mr Quotation Marks.

She has taken it upon herself to research every claim that is dropped willy nilly onto the blog that supports the obvious groupthink. And comments on some of it.

Go tell your lies somewhere else.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 15, 2022 2:19 pm

Ha ha Psycho blog. I like that. Never looked at it and never will.

mc
mc
December 15, 2022 2:21 pm

in Australia it’s ‘provisional approval’.

Thanks Rosie.
“The provisional registration is for an initial period of two years, with the option to apply for up to two extensions, up to a maximum of six years.”

Will be interesting to see if they look for an extension in the next 12 months.

132andBush
132andBush
December 15, 2022 2:21 pm

H B Bear says:
December 15, 2022 at 8:29 am

Scroll wheel?

A bit retro now. I have a steampunk mouse.

I want one.
Based on the name if nothing else.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 2:22 pm

WTF is psycho blog?

Is it a David Icke thing?

Look. The fucker is genuinely crazy if you ask me. He should be in a padded cell.

No I don’t accuse him of wrongthink.

I accuse him of retardthink.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 2:22 pm

A man and a woman were having a quiet, romantic dinner in a fine restaurant. They were gazing lovingly at each other and holding hands.

The waitress, taking another order at a table a few steps away, suddenly noticed the woman slowly sliding down her chair, under the table and under the table cloth… but the man stared straight ahead.

The waitress watched as the woman slid all the way down her chair and totally out of sight under the tablecloth. Still, the man stared straight ahead.

The waitress, thinking this behaviour a bit risqué and worried that it might offend other diners, went over to the table and, tactfully, began by saying to the man “Pardon me sir, but I think your wife just slid under the table”. The man calmly looked up at her and said “No, unfortunately, she just walked in”.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 2:23 pm

In other news, I wish I could fix the bearings on a washing machine. Just to add to their misery, my parents’ expensive and relatively young (but out of warranty, natch) Miele has got kaput.

More high priced kraut rubbish. Remember the old Whirlpool top loaders that simply rusted away but never missed a beat?

Someone mentioned rubbish new cars with lots of gizmos but not much chop otherwise. My new car’s GPS is like that. Finally worked out how the possessed programmer set it up. Sadly, you have to look into the abyss to find out.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 2:24 pm

The most important thing is to read as much as you can, like I did. It will give you an understanding of what makes good writing and it will enlarge your vocabulary.

– J. K. Rowling

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 2:24 pm

WTF is psycho blog?

AKA The Furniture Store.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 2:29 pm

local oafsays:
December 15, 2022 at 2:17 pm
Two tricks:
The “job” (both parts) need to be hot enough to melt the solder.
If you have a concave meniscus it’s probably a good job, if it’s convex it’s probably bad.

They taught us that the first rule of soldering, was to make sure that both parts were thoroughly clean and in good mechanical contact.

And don’t forget the flux otherwise you may well flux it all up.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 2:30 pm

This isn’t the Bee. It’s pretty funny though.

Dr. Foster ?
@ClaireFosterPHD
Anti-Extremist | Maoist Centrist | Board certified Astrologist | IQ 169 | Clinton/Harris 2024.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClaireFosterPHD

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 2:33 pm

Calli, get yerself a Maytag laundrette special. There’s eighteen moving parts, all designed to be swapped out, all standard for about
One setting: full up and flat-out. Punches out an 8kg load in about 22 minutes.
Of course, you’d need to keep a Miele about for woolens and delicates…

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 2:36 pm

Johnny Rottensays:
December 15, 2022 at 2:24 pm
The most important thing is to read as much as you can, like I did. It will give you an understanding of what makes good writing and it will enlarge your vocabulary.

– J. K. Rowling

Dame Joanne sure works hard at obscuring her baccalaureate (hons) in European Literature

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 2:39 pm

And JC following the one-term prediction, I’d remind you that Ardern’s first gov in coalition, as well as Andrews’ gerrymandering juggernaut, looked crook but pulled through even stronger.
Rudd 1.0 was damn near chucked out, but then again that was when the conservative opposition had a leader with both convictions and a hard-headed work ethic.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 2:39 pm

“Another reason:- I am sick of the same faces being wheeled out again and again as panel members or commentators.

Hold on, to be fair, Sky is no more guilty of this than the free to air stations. You get the same faces being wheeled out again and again on their ABC programmes such as The Dumb and the 7.30 Report.

Who would you prefer…

Teena McQueen, Bronwyn Bishop, Katherine Deves, and Alexandra Marshall on Sky or the ghoul Laura Tingle and Mrs Jones aka Sarah Ferguson on their ABC?

Also Kenny at 5.00 is excellent and I like Rowan’s programme at 9.00 p.m.

Sky isn’t perfect but imagine life without it? Imagine being dependent on their ABC for news? That scenario is vomit inducing.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 2:40 pm

America is already at the Bottom of the Sewer Pit – What a Crap Country

re: San Francisco Transgender Income Program Includes 97 Gender Options, 19 Sexual Orientation

quote:

“Cis-gender woman, Woman, Transgender Woman, Woman of Trans experience, Woman with a history of gender transition, Trans feminine, Feminine-of-center, MTF (male-to-female), Demigirl, T-girl, Transgirl, Sistergirl, Cis-gender man, Man, Transgender man, Man of Trans experience, Man with a history of gender transition, Trans masculine, Masculine-of-center, FTM (female-to-male), Demiboy, T-boy, Transguy, Brotherboy, Trans, Transgender, Transsexual, Non-binary, Genderqueer, Agender, Xenogender, Fem, Femme, Butch, Boi, Stud, Aggressive (AG), Androgyne, Tomboy, Gender outlaw, Gender non-conforming, Gender variant, Gender fluid, Genderfrick, Bi-gender, Multi-gender, Pangender, Gender creative, Gender expansive, Third gender, Neutrois, Omnigender, Polygender, Graygender, Intergender, Maverique, Novigender, Two-spirit, Hijra, Kathoey, Muxe, Khanith/Xanith, X-gender, MTX, FTX, Bakla, Mahu, Fa’afafine, Waria, Palao’ana, Ashtime, Mashoga, Mangaiko, Chibados, Tida wena, Bixa’ah, Alyha, Hwame, Lhamana, Nadleehi, Dilbaa, Winkte, Ninauposkitzipxpe, Machi-embra, Quariwarmi, Chuckchi, Whakawahine, Fakaleiti, Calabai, Calalai, Bissu, Acault, Travesti, Questioning, I don’t use labels, Declined, Not Listed.”

Applicants are invited to check all that apply, or to describe their own gender under “not listed.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 15, 2022 2:43 pm

I have a post aortic aneurism, cardiologist said very common and most don’t know they have one. Found when having a special scan for kidney stones. In the space of a year it grew from 39mm to 43mm. When it gets to 52mm they will operate unless it gets me first.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 2:45 pm

Hardly a collapse. They conducted the retreat over several weeks having decided holding the the right bank not worth the risk at that time

Whatever they tell you, Dover.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2022 2:49 pm

I have some devastating news for Kenn Worth Road Ranger (President of the Train Fan Club), regarding his claim that ‘new Rex Anger’ is an imposter.
‘New Rex’ has precisely the same WordPress generated avatar as ‘Old Rex’ had back in March-April this year.
That’s jolly awkward, eh.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 15, 2022 2:50 pm

Police officer Zach Rolfe has to answer Yuendumu shooting inquest’s questions, NT court rules

By KRISTIN SHORTEN
Investigative Journalist
@itsKShort
2:13PM December 15, 2022

The Northern Territory Supreme Court has ruled that the police officer who fatally shot Kumanjayi Walker at Yuendumu can be compelled to answer questions at the coronial inquest into the Indigenous teenager’s death when the hearing resumes in February.

During his first day of evidence at the inquest last month Constable Zachary Rolfe claimed “the penalty provision” over 14 categories of evidence to which he objected to answering questions about because his testimony could result in disciplinary action.

Most of the 14 categories of evidence to which Constable Rolfe claimed the “penalty privilege” relate to specific use of force incidents but also include questions about drug use, the use or misuse of body-worn video, “arguably racist, sexist or homophobic” text messages and his deployment to Yuendumu on November 9, 2019 when he shot Walker.

Constable Rolfe’s lawyer Luke Officer argued that his client should not be compelled to answer questions about incidents that could incriminate him and expose him to further internal disciplinary proceedings within the NT Police.

The inquest heard that Constable Rolfe and another officer – who also refused to answer the coroner’s questions – applied to the Supreme Court for a judicial review of the nature and extent of penalty privilege.

On November 23 and 24 Judge Judith Kelly heard the application for declarations that common law penalty privilege is not abrogated by the Coroner’s Act and that, notwithstanding s 38 of the Act, in respect of any questions the answers to which would tend to subject or expose the plaintiffs to a penalty the plaintiffs are entitled to refuse to answer the question(s); and the Coroner cannot direct or compel them to answer the question(s).

The Territory Coroner, Attorney-General of the Northern Territory, Northern Territory Police Force, North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency and lawyers for Walker’s relatives all intervened in the proceedings to argue that the police officers should be compelled to answer questions at the inquest.

Judge Kelly on Thursday published her judgment, delivered on December 12, refusing the declarations which means that penalty privilege does not extend to giving evidence at a coronial inquest.

Sky News host Andrew Bolt says “further developments” following the trial of Zachary Rolfe proves “heads must… roll” over the rush to charge Constable Rolfe with murder. “This rush to charge Rolfe stank of politics, not justice.

“It would subvert the whole purpose of s 38 since, in the case of police officers and other public officials, almost all criminal acts would also have potential disciplinary consequences with the result that the Coroner could almost never require police officers (and others) to answer such questions on the provision of a certificate under s 38(2),” Judge Kelly said.

“Given the expressed object of the Act to implement recommendations of the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, and the key role of police officers in such proceedings – and others under the Act – and given the expressed object of the 2002 amendment to make it easier for the Coroner to ascertain the truth by limiting the ability of witnesses to refuse to answer questions, such an interpretation would not advance the objects of either the original Act or the 2002 amendment; rather it would subvert those objects.

“The plaintiffs’ application for declarations is refused.”

Constable Rolfe had been one of four Immediate Response Team members deployed from Alice Springs to Yuendumu to execute an arrest warrant for Walker on four charges including assaulting police with an axe and breaching his suspended sentence.?

During the arrest, the young cop shot Walker three times after the teenager stabbed him with a pair of scissors.?

In March Constable Rolfe was acquitted of murder and two alternative offences.

He will return to the witness box when the inquest resumes at the Alice Springs Local Court in February.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 15, 2022 2:51 pm

Of course, you’d need to keep a Miele about for woolens and delicates…

I’ve got a Miele washer drier. Hardly ever use the drier. It gets stains out like no other machine I’ve had. Mostly use the quick and dirty program but use the long cycles to get rid of stains.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 2:52 pm

Big Serge Thoughts

Napoleon’s Art of Warfare

The History of Battle: Maneuver, Part 5

Napoleon, by any counting, commanded more major set piece battles than any other man in history, and he almost always won. At the peak of his powers, between his Italian campaign of 1796 and the beginning of his downfall in Saxony in 1813, he fought 53 major battles and suffered defeat in only 4 of them. He won victories repeatedly when fighting at a numerical disadvantage, and he won in summer and winter, deserts and mountains, from France to Egypt to Russia.

Napoleon did, of course, lose his wars in the end, but it must be recognized and acknowledged that this was a man so prodigiously skilled at warfare, commanding such a finely machined army, that his defeat required the cooperative work, without exaggeration, of essentially all of Europe. The so-called War of the Sixth Coalition, which finally brought about his defeat, pitted Napoleonic France against Russia, the United Kingdom, Prussia, Austria, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, Spain, and eventually almost all of the Germanic principalities. A formidable alliance – but Napoleon still somehow made it close.

So who is the greatest general? We can defer to Napoleon’s great British nemesis, the Duke of Wellington. He was asked the same question once, and answered without hesitation: “In this age, in past ages, in any age, Napoleon.”

Let us dwell with Napoleon and learn his art of war.

– How to Move an Army
– Napoleonic Combat

Napoleonic battle was a fluid interplay between the three arms: infantry, cavalry, and cannon. Notwithstanding Napoleon’s many famous quotes about the preeminence of artillery on the battlefield (his fondness for cannon originating in his early career as an artillery officer in the Bourbon army), there was no single arm that was more important than the other. All three arms interacted with the others in unique and important ways, and successful battle required a synergistic application of the whole.

– The Cornerstone: Napoleon’s Infantry
– The God of War: Napoleon’s Artillery Arm
– Shock and Awe: Napoleon’s Cavalry
– Blueprint of Strategic Destruction
– Austerlitz: Napoleon’s Immortal Battle
– Le Bataillon Carre
– Central Position and Double Battle
– Why Napoleon was Defeated

Given his ambitions of establishing a continent spanning empire, Napoleon has at times been compared to Adolf Hitler, but the comparison is a poor one. While Napoleon was no saint, and certainly prone to megalomania, there was nothing intrinsically criminal about him. He generally tried to bring stability, rational laws, and security to the lands he conquered, and it is a testament to his reasonableness that his enemies left most of his reforms in place after his defeat.

The crucial factor to consider, when evaluating Napoleon as a moral agent, is the fact that he did not start his wars. Republican France had been at war for a decade by the time he came to power, and indeed he came to power precisely because the country was destabilized and exhausted. Napoleon was not a man who sought political power so that he could unleash war – he was given political power to bring resolution to a war that was already unleashed. He thus saw himself as the man who could bring security to France and finally bring peace to Europe through his own prodigious skill on the battlefield. This was megalomaniacal and egotistical to be sure, but motivated by the quest for stability, not a lust for bloodshed.

In the end, Napoleon ran into a problem – he kept winning battles.

By 1812 Napoleon had pushed French power to its absolute limit. He had won a stunning series of titanic victories, but those victories brought burdens. Namely, Napoleon now had to contend with three different geopolitical strains:

1. The financial-naval power of Britain

2. The military-logistical power of Russia

3. The diplomatic strain of maintaining control over Germany and Italy.

In particular, France simply lacked the resources to wage a protracted struggle with both Russia and Britain, especially because these two enemies required very different forms of power projection to combat.

His final act at Waterloo required a combined Prussian-British army to finish him off – and even at the very end he made his enemies sweat. At the climax at Waterloo, Wellington told his aides that either night or the Prussians needed to arrive soon to prevent yet another French victory.

In the end Napoleon was undone because France simply could not bear the geopolitical burdens that it had assumed. There were not enough horses, not enough cannons, and not enough men. Still, his legacy as a military practitioner is without equal. He was not infallible, of course, but across multiple decades of war, in disparate environments and frequently outnumbered, he almost always won, and even in defeats his enemies usually suffered more casualties than he did.

Perhaps no figure since Alexander the Great was so centered on battle, deriving all of his political fortunes from the iron dice. Even from a distance of nearly 200 years, Napoleon is a captivating figure, and a peerless general. He remains the favored son of Ares, and the very incarnation of the spirit of battle.

A long but absorbing read

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 2:52 pm

Ranga, I’ve known a few people with them. Not to be trifled with. Sadly one died as the result of a car accident…the seat belt didn’t retract properly and the pressure of the low speed collision burst it. My daughter had one in the centre of her brain – we nearly lost her.

The Beloved has arranged a new machine for parents…the service guy here recommended a Bosch (yes, another kraut) but he’s been in the industry forever and says they’re reliable. Thanks Wally for the tip. When mine eventually dies in the guts I will investigate.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 2:53 pm

Further to Sky, whilst I agree with Latham about Blot, I think Sky had no option to do what it did with Chris Smith. Sky is subjected everyday to leftist activists pressuring companies that advertise on the channel to withdraw their advertising, smearing the media outlet and its personalities such as Rowan Dean and Paul Murray. I spoke to a well known Sky identity last year and this person said that we have no idea the pressure Sky is under. However I do think Sky overreacted with Alan Jones and they ended up losing someone who attracted many people. Sky panicked because of the week long Youtube ban in August last year which was no doubt a result of the venomous Twitter campaign against Sky by scum like KRudd and Turdbull.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 15, 2022 2:57 pm

struthsays:
December 15, 2022 at 1:58 pm
F*ck off Calli.

The courtly gentleman, St Ruth, gives us his charming best.

Do you speak like that to all the women you have dealings with? Or is that you have a problem with words that have lots of syllables?

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 15, 2022 2:57 pm

Sky isn’t perfect but imagine life without it? Imagine being dependent on their ABC for news? That scenario is vomit inducing.

I am not sure that Sky is what it was a couple of years ago, but still better than the rest in Australia.
Most of the hosts give lefties a chance to have their say, unlike the ABC where the conservative view is NEVER heard.
I gave up on ABC for anything 2 years ago so cant comment on how they are now.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 3:00 pm

GLOBAL COOLING: SUMMER SNOW IN VICTORIA AND RECORD WINTER COLD IN EUROPE

Carbon isn’t making the planet hotter. The sun is making it cooler.

These were the scenes at Mt Baw Baw Alpine Resort in Victoria last week.

Remember how when there were bushfires and heatwaves in summer, all we’d hear about from the lying press was climate change?

Whenever it’s a heat event, climate change is behind everything wrong in the world.

Climate change causes inflation. Climate change is why economists are always wrong. Climate change killed the dinosaurs. Climate change is spreading COVID. Climate change is why we won’t have things in shops anymore. Climate change requires more girls in education. Climate change is making summer hot.

But the thing is, it’s not getting hotter. It’s getting colder. By mid-November this year, winter was hitting North America hard early with temperatures significantly below average. The winter we just had here was also colder for longer. In the neighbourhood around our house, locals were running out of firewood before the cold was done with us.

The signs are everywhere for those of us not brainwashed by the global warming propaganda. Australia just recorded its equal lowest-ever summer temperature when it got down to -7C at Perisher last Friday. Our winter this year was so obviously colder than usual that the propaganda had to address it. Temperatures in Australia have been anomalously low all year.

At the same time, the UK Met Office has issued multiple warnings across Britain for extreme cold today, with temperatures across Britain already struggling to get above 0C in the daytime.

bespoke
bespoke
December 15, 2022 3:01 pm

Who would you prefer…

Not who but less talking heads and more in-depth investigative journalism. The circus has limitations.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 3:05 pm

Teena McQueen, Bronwyn Bishop, Katherine Deves, and Alexandra Marshall on Sky or the ghoul Laura Tingle and Mrs Jones aka Sarah Ferguson on their ABC?

Cassie, I don’t waste my time watching the ABC – except when “Vera” is on.

Pogria
Pogria
December 15, 2022 3:07 pm

“Or being poisoned slowly in armaments production lines.

Calli, one of the easiest jobs for women early last century, was also one of the deadliest.

Re, your parents washing machine woes, go Speed Queen. American made, your parents will be able to pass it on to your kids when they no longer need it.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 15, 2022 3:09 pm

I need to see another dentist for a second opinion.

With Doctors, there is no point, as all are now just reading the same scripts and flowcharts from big pharma.

I hope dentists have not yet fallen that far.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 15, 2022 3:13 pm

Does anyone know if the mRNA vaxxes have been fully approved yet?

To quote Hillary …. ” at this point, what difference does it make..?”

Pogria
Pogria
December 15, 2022 3:14 pm

I watch Sky on and off most nights. Don’t bother with Blot, only watch Chris Kenny when I know Blair or Brown will be on. Rita is good most of the time, Rowan good, but as you all say, give someone else a chance. The one I really can’t stand watching or listening to is the Marieke Hardy lookalike. erk.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 15, 2022 3:15 pm

GLOBAL COOLING: SUMMER SNOW IN VICTORIA AND RECORD WINTER COLD IN EUROPE

As I said in the latte shop this morning “if this globul warming gets any worse we are all going to freeze to death..”

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 3:17 pm

bespokesays:
December 15, 2022 at 3:01 pm
Who would you prefer…

Not who but less talking heads and more in-depth investigative journalism. The circus has limitations.

Yes. That would include good commentators across their briefs being given more than one minute’s airtime.

bespoke
bespoke
December 15, 2022 3:18 pm

As I said in the latte shop this morning

Traitorous whore to big coffee.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 3:20 pm

Speed Queen is great. We had an ancient Kleenmaid that went like the clappers for years. Handed it on to our son when he got married.

Parents have severely limited space, has to be front load because the dryer goes on top. Their laundry is ridiculously small. Agree the Miele machines wash the clothes beautifully with minimal detergent. They’d want to at the price.

Someone mentioned garbage detergent the other day. Try industrial suppliers like Jamac over at Riverstone. Minimal filler maximum active ingredient. They do a lot of other commercial stuff too at a fraction of supermarket prices.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 3:21 pm

SUMMER SNOW IN VICTORIA

It is the CAR BIN! CO2 causes warming that causes cooling. Or whatever.
You have all sinned and you must pay.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 3:27 pm

As I said in the latte shop this morning

As I said to my girlfriend under the shower this morning.
What is this thing called love?

Punctuators are invited to respond.

Lysander
Lysander
December 15, 2022 3:28 pm

Thanks for CL’s post for the link from the Oz – but surely it’s just a “bit off” that Reynolds and Cash were told their legal costs wouldnt’ be paid if they attended Higgins mediation?

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 3:29 pm

We’re back at Parliament today to take action on energy prices.

Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine has caused massive price spikes around the world.

And a wasted decade of opposition to renewable energy has left Australia vulnerable to these global shocks.

Lol did he really say this shit? Australia, you’re standing in it

Pogria
Pogria
December 15, 2022 3:29 pm

The FBI sting that baited Sam Brinton into stealing women’s luggage.

Also, a Sam Brinton mugshot.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 3:30 pm

Would it seem reasonable to interpret the difference between Sky in the daytime and ‘Sky at Night’ as reflecting a change in audience? At night the can cater to people who work during the day.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 3:33 pm

but surely it’s just a “bit off” that Reynolds and Cash were told their legal costs wouldnt’ be paid

When the “fix” is in you never, ever compromise the result.

If anyone was in any doubt, they can’t possibly be any more. The entire brouhaha was designed to disgrace the government. The main operative has now been paid.

Lysander
Lysander
December 15, 2022 3:33 pm

Live footage of some sort of gas leak on the International Space Station – happening now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-1iMrdIj3Q

(I blame Putin)… 😛

Lysander
Lysander
December 15, 2022 3:34 pm

Soyuz Sorry!

(So MORE LIKELY PUTIN!!!) 😛

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2022 3:35 pm

Ex AFL player and coach Dean Laidley – currently Danielle, will play in an Australian Open Pride Day celebrity match sponsored by Ralph Lauren.
Laidley will be interviewed during the event to promote (pick pronoun) book Don’t Look Away.
Get the Woodstocks nice and cold for this visual feast of tennis hit & giggle.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 3:35 pm

I’m calling it.

That sting was racist.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 3:37 pm

Climate change causes Russians.

You heard it here first!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 3:38 pm

As I said in the latte shop this morning “if this globul warming gets any worse we are all going to freeze to death..”

Some amusing stuff around today on that.

Tempted to joke about global warming amid a blizzard? Here’s what experts say about that (Phys.org, 14 Dec)

Winter storms are pummeling the United States, snow is piling up, temperatures are dropping, traffic is snarling and there’s always the threat of thunderstorms and thundersnow.

Just like clockwork, the emails, tweets and Facebook posts start flowing. Maybe it’s a joke, maybe it’s a snarky critique, maybe it’s a meme. The words change, but the format is familiar: If global warming is real, why is it so cold out? … Cold winters don’t mean there’s no global warming

Global Warming To Cause A New Ice Age (Tony Heller, 14 Dec)

Heller is of course being ironic but the first bird ain’t: she’s serious. And sounds very defensive. My response to people like her is this: if global warming causes cooling what does global cooling cause?

The calisthenics to explain the cold is all rather fun. Did I mention yesterday was the coldest summer day ever? In Victoria. At least since records began.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 3:38 pm

Real Deal says:
December 15, 2022 at 2:57 pm

struthsays:
December 15, 2022 at 1:58 pm
F*ck off Calli.

The courtly gentleman, St Ruth, gives us his charming best.

Do you speak like that to all the women you have dealings with? Or is that you have a problem with words that have lots of syllables?

Struphid is well “Trained”. You missed what the Train sibling called her yesterday.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 3:38 pm

“If anyone was in any doubt, they can’t possibly be any more. The entire brouhaha was designed to disgrace the government. The main operative has now been paid.”

Yep….although I don’t think any of us here were ever in doubt as to what was the intent and goal of this brouhaha. It worked a treat.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 3:42 pm

Albo needs a rest from all the hard work, so another holiday is in the winds. The Hun:

Anthony Albanese has spoken out on Australia’s relations with China, admitting they were once not “healthy”.

The Prime Minister said he was open to visiting China in early 2023 during an interview with Sky News on Thursday.

“We of course will examine any invitation that come in,” he said.

“That makes a big change from the previous term when there was no contact, not even phone contact and that’s not a healthy situation.”

He said a delegation of Australian MPs visiting Taiwan was not intended to taper the two countries’ relations.

“This wasn’t a government-to-government visit by those MPs,” Mr Albanese said.

“I think this year has seen a better relationship, clearly, with China.

“When I met with President Xi Jinping in Bali, what we’ve said was that we would continue to look at measures to move forward together.”

Mr Albanese said a strong relationship with China was paramount for Australia’s trading place within the region.

“What I’ve said about China is we should co-operate where we can but be prepared to disagree where we must, and we will always of course seek to stand up for Australia’s national interest.”

It comes days after Australia committed to making a security deal with Vanuatu public in direct contrast to the contentious arrangement forged between China and the Solomon Islands earlier this year.

Foreign Minister Penny Wong made the promise in Port Vila on Tuesday after signing a deal with Vanuatu Prime Minister Ishmael Kalsakau that secures Australia as the island nation’s principal security partner of choice.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 3:45 pm

Back in September, when Surovykin was given overall command, he said there were tough decisions ahead.

Reports today that Vlad has fired Gerasimov.

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 15, 2022 3:46 pm

Re the ‘they’, even the Ukrainian sources are sounding pessimistic at the moment,

At least Zelenskiy’s wife is optimistic and has a deep purse to prove it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 3:46 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 3:47 pm

All these er, security pacts and whatnot, what does Australia really provide besides lucre, and lots of it?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 3:48 pm
Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 3:54 pm

Can someone please tell Bone Head Bowen and Elbow that price caps and controls just do not work, except maybe in war time.

Oh dear, maybe we are in wartime. Wartime with the Guv’ment, the WEF and the Climate Alarmists.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 15, 2022 3:55 pm

Terry McCrann all pissed and on fire:
It’s just a wild guess, but I’m assuming that the 97 statements prime minister Albanese made through the election campaign, promising a $275 cut in all your electricity bills, are now, all of them – in the famous word of Nixon’s press secretary Ron Ziegler – “inoperative”.

As far as I can judge none of the trio who now own – and I mean capital-O capital-W capital-N, OWN – not just the gas and coal price-capping package, but the catastrophic wider and deeper energy future it will rush us towards, have actually said as much.

Indeed, the now ‘inoperative’ nature of the promise certainly didn’t find its way into any of the press statements, issued by our leadership trio since last Friday.

Maybe they still cling to the promise remaining, well, operative.

That after the average electricity bill soars anywhere between $800 and $1000 through 2023-24, oodles of ‘free’ electricity will then come pouring out of wind turbines and solar panels and deliver a magical $1075 to $1275 cut in 2024-25.

So, ‘just in time’, we will get what’s needed to end up with an averaged $275 cut by the end of 2025, relative to electricity prices before the election.

In broad terms, of course; I can’t give you a more precise figure, as I lack Treasury’s fine grasp of utter statistical ineptitude and idiocy.

Now, before the clearly utterly undeliverable promise – even if PM & Co won’t admit it’s now ‘inoperative’ – disappears into the political miasma, it is important to emphasise that it was made well after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The invasion was in February, the election was of course in May, with the campaigning – and the promise stated 97 times, and probably counting – through April-May.

So, none of the trio could claim the government was ambushed by unforeseen left-field events in the gas and coal markets.

If Russia’s responsible for soaring coal and gas prices in Australia – and ultimately it’s not: we are – then it was all out there and visible well before the promise was made.

Furthermore, the promise does actually remain entirely deliverable, if the government wanted to keep it. It would simply need to write out a – true, JobKeeper-level gi-normous – cheque, to all electricity users. That is to say, everyone.

That would of course also be an exercise of such fiscal vandalism and economic madness, it would finally top the 1974 Whitlam budget – which has stood for nearly half-a-century as the absolute and un-matchable, far less top-able, exercise in fiscal lunacy in our history.

Clearly the government is going to reject that option; it’s made that clear in the structure of the current package.

But is what it is proposing really any better?

It started as a dangerous interference in the market – a merging, as I wrote yesterday, of short-term stupidity and long-term lunacy – and is now cascading into broader and really seriously dangerous energy chaos.

We now learn that the 12-month price cap on gas will actually be permanent. That producers will have to offer gas at “reasonable” prices, and with such prices consistent with a mandatory code.

Further, free-basing, PM Albanese mused Tuesday that the government might actually move to a policy of gas confiscation.

He said “reservation” – forcing gas to be sold into the domestic market at those “reasonable” prices.

But if walks like confiscation and quacks like confiscation, it is banana republic-style confiscation.

And it’s taken barely six months for the PM to get there.

Indeed, if we adjust the time-frame for all the weeks our peripatetic PM has spent overseas, it’s really more like three months, ‘peripatetically adjusted’.

Woodside CEO Meg O’Neill, was restrained but devastating; actually suggesting, in print, that the policy could lead to the lights going out.

In a fundamental sense, they already have.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 3:58 pm

Calli I just lost my Whirlpool front loader due to failed bearings, was trying to march itself out of the laundry. Wasted $140 on a five minute service call. I knew I should have just ordered a new one.
Have replaced with a Teka, so far so good.
My mum has a thirty year old Kitchen Maid top loader still going strong.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 4:06 pm

Gypsum.
Gypsum everywhere….

I figured as much. Thank Groogs for our local prophet.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 4:08 pm

Wally Dalí says:
December 15, 2022 at 2:39 pm

And JC following the one-term prediction, I’d remind you that Ardern’s first gov in coalition, as well as Andrews’ gerrymandering juggernaut, looked crook but pulled through even stronger.
Rudd 1.0 was damn near chucked out, but then again that was when the conservative opposition had a leader with both convictions and a hard-headed work ethic.

Look, I don’t mind being wrong – well actually I do in this case because being wrong would mean the Liars party are in for another term and that’s bad. These Liar Party idiots are like the Rudd/ Slapper B team. It’s unusual for a political party to get thrown out of office after one term but then politics is pretty volatile around the world these days. The Albanian is also a first class idiot.

I suspect decent swag of Teals are one term layabouts too.

You, Cassie and many others appear to be purists, which is unworkable in the current state of play. Australia is a small nation and we can’t pull rank against the EU or the US. Already, the EU is proposing carbon taxes for nations they believe are transgressors and the US will do the same too with regards to gerbil warming mitigation. We have to be extremely careful with the US, because they are our security blanket. Broadly speaking, the US is a 50/50 nation and we don’t want to jeopardize our security by thumbing our nose at them about gerbil warming. The Demonrats are a very malicious political group and payback could come in the form of removing themselves from our security or even partially. Even a debate between the GOP and the Demons would be devastating for us. Unfortunately, it may be a horrific thought to contemplate but we need both political parties on our side. There are two possible solutions.

1. Do what the Europeans do, which is to lie and cheat about carbon reductions.
2. Go nuclear and speed it up.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 4:11 pm

John of Mel says:
December 15, 2022 at 3:46 pm

Re the ‘they’, even the Ukrainian sources are sounding pessimistic at the moment,

At least Zelenskiy’s wife is optimistic and has a deep purse to prove it.

She’s a pretty decent looker, John.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 4:11 pm

Incidentally I don’t check all Willy Nilly claims re vaccine deaths, but the lack of interest in an iota of verification by those that rush to post them is quite astounding, especially when it literally takes thirty seconds to do so.
Can go back two years I think of false claims of vaccine deaths but it hasn’t given the usual culprits the slightest pause.
On the other hand the constant pouncing, even on deaths from throwing oneself off a tall building, suggests they really don’t have much evidence.
Other than ‘it’s true because Steve Kirsch said so and he’s a billionaire’ of course.
Yes there have clearly been deaths from myocarditis shortly after being vaccinated using mrna and by blood clot after astrazeneca but any death months, years after, I’m very, very sceptical.
Oh and the Nathaniel Train heart attack being brought on by job loss due to vaccine mandate stress, absolutely possible, just like mean girl bullying induced stress may have contributed to the death of Kimberley Kitching.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 4:11 pm

Cassie

scum like KRudd and Turdbull.

You spelled “Turdballs” incorrectly.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 4:12 pm

The cross-bench overwhelming supported our [Liars] plan to cap gas prices and provide rebates.

Compulsory preferential voting working just the way it was intended.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 4:17 pm

‘Psycho-blog’. The Furniture Store.

Brilliant.

It is the Wizz Fizz sherbet of blogs.

Zipster
Zipster
December 15, 2022 4:18 pm
alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 4:19 pm

Well there goes the gas supply.

It won’t take long before we have people with overcoats in dark alleys saying: “Psst, you wanna buy some propane?”

Would anyone like to make an offer on my backup barbie gas cylinder?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 4:21 pm

Gez – hope you get your share of dry, warm days. Breezy, not windy.

Got to get that crop off.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 4:21 pm

A major chunk of the Perth CBD closed due to the murder “of a woman from Regional Western Australia known to the perpetrator”. Which leaves only one question- aspiring rapper or promising footballer? No candlelight vigil for this victim of Colonial trauma.

Kneel
Kneel
December 15, 2022 4:26 pm

“They taught us that the first rule of soldering, was to make sure that both parts were thoroughly clean and in good mechanical contact.”

Well yes, that is certainly true.
But even so, the “tricks” I listed help get a good joint first time.
As in, if you just put a blob of solder on the iron and try to transfer it to the (cold) job, it won’t be a very good joint, and will likely have the convex meniscus as described.
There are other indicators as well – the finished joint should be shiny, not “frosted”, for example – that is indicative of a “dry joint” (bad connection), where the tin/lead solder has not alloyed with the copper and/or may have crystalised on cooling.
This is of course also only regarding hand soldering through-hole PCBs, wires etc – surface mount PCB repair is usually done by “reflow” with an IR lamp, and is a totally different kettle of fish. Presumably anyone using such specialised equipment is already trained in what is required and how to do it.
Most people don’t use a temperature controlled iron, nor flux remover afterwards either, but that doesn’t mean the handyman needs to do so to get something working again – it may not be a totally “professional” job, but it will likely keep working for quite a while, even if not as long as if you had used such tools/chemicals.
Soldering is not something I do every day any more, but I did do it every day for more than a decade, so I have some idea what to do 🙂

Pogria
Pogria
December 15, 2022 4:26 pm

For no reason at all, Frida Kahlo had nothing on Princess Qajar.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 4:28 pm

Is the gas price cap in $AUD

If so, then it is worse than we thought.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 15, 2022 4:32 pm

Albo is dead wrong on coal and Russia. Prices were at record levels before Ukraine went kinetic. Mainly a supply & demand problem. Of course media outlets dutifully without scrutiny.

On another note I note the Thais can install a 6 lane motorway in a fraction of the time it takes in Oz. Our problems are much deeper than the hue of the government.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 4:39 pm

“I suspect decent swag of Teals are one term layabouts too.”

I don’t disagree. I reckon that, since this government has now shed any pretence that it’s a moderate government, perhaps half of the Teals will be a one term wonder. I certainly hope so. I reckon Ryan in Kooyong will be gone along with Daniel in Goldstein and maybe Wentworth although it’s hard to predict and the election is not for another two and a half years. I’m no fortune teller.

You, Cassie and many others appear to be purists, which is unworkable in the current state of play.

Again I don’t disagree, on many things I am a purist however I know it isn’t workable. However, whilst I’m not asking for perfection, it would be nice nice to have an opposition that did stand up for some right of centre ideas and if elected it would be nice to see a Coalition government at least try and implement some right of centre policies. But they don’t even try, they cower in the corner and try and be Labor lite. We all saw what happened in Victoria less than a month ago.

I want Dutton to succeed. He could start by opposing the Voice. However if the likes of Bragg and Bummingham (who should go and join the Greens) have his ear, then I don’t hold out much hope.

You can’t expect a party to remain viable when it not only trashes its brand but it also likes to trash the ordinary hardworking Australian who have traditionally voted for it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 4:39 pm

Albo is dead wrong on coal and Russia.

He knows that. But he’s not about to fess on the real reason is he?

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 4:40 pm

Fair comment Cassie.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 4:42 pm
JC
JC
December 15, 2022 4:42 pm

Albo is dead wrong on coal and Russia.

And the lying, the bullshit and dissembling begins. It’s roots must be FNQ.
it never stops with these arseholes.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 4:42 pm

California Unleashing Nationwide Crime Wave

From Armstrong Economics –

“California has infected the United States as a whole for its insane policies have led to contagions that have unleashed a serious crime wave nationwide. Just Google “Shoplifting in San Francisco” and you will find more than 100,000 hits. This has become a real contagion spreading nationwide. You will also find many YouTube videos showing people just walking in and stealing whatever they want. This has escalated to whole gangs walking into an SF Walgreens or CVS and actually emptying the shelves. They are not prosecuted and they just walk out. At least one thief rode their bike into the store and departed the same way.

What is erupting is many current and former CEOs have issued warnings that this crime wave in California has spread to New York and many other cities. They are warning that this increase in retail thefts across the United States will contribute to INFLATION forcing higher prices, but it is also impacting areas as stores just give up and close. In fact, in June of 2021, nearly 50% of small businesses remained closed. Walgreens has been closing down stores in San Francisco on a grand scale. Between this and all the illegal aliens learning they do not have to pay for things in San Francisco, what was a nice safe city has turned into a place that is no longer the hot spot for tourists.

Perhaps this is given new meaning to Tony Bennett’s hit song – I left My Heart in San Francisco.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/california-unleashing-nationwide-crime-wave/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 4:44 pm

Cassie at 4.39 pm:
Spot on, Cassie.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 4:45 pm

It won’t take long before we have people with overcoats in dark alleys saying: “Psst, you wanna buy some propane?”

Rusty Shackleford and Hank Hill to the rescue!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 4:48 pm

perhaps half of the Teals will be a one term wonder. I certainly hope so. I reckon Ryan in Kooyong will be gone along with Daniel in Goldstein and maybe Wentworth although it’s hard to predict and the election is not for another two and a half years.

That election isn’t for 2½ years, this election is three months away.

‘Teal’ independent Jacqui Scruby taking on the Liberals in Sydney’s Northern Beaches at March election (12 Dec)

One of the team members behind federal “teal” independent MP Sophie Scamps is now running in the same area on the Northern Beaches for the state election.

Jacqui Scruby has announced she will be the independent candidate for the seat of Pittwater, and has the backing of the Climate 200 group.

Ms Scruby is an environmental lawyer and business climate change advisor.

Of course she is. There’s a photo in the story – she looks like all the other Teals. Stepford wives.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 4:52 pm

That’s likely bullshit, Rodney Rottenhead. Armstrong is a unrepentant felon, convicted of large scale fraud and cannot be trusted about anything. Stores in NYC, at least in the decent areas, are protected by guards and or cops. Street walking cops are very visible. Smaller stores simply lock their doors and look at you up and down before you’re allowed a walk in. Bloomingdale has cops stationed at front and rear entrances. Bergdorf Goodman has private security to keep out potential theiving riff raff like yourself.
While crime in NYC is elevated, it is nowhere the dystopia your crooked buddy suggests it is. Stop posting that bilge, you idiot.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 4:53 pm

“Vee also have some diesel that we can trade for nicotine, steak or gold.”
Or maybe forget the gold

Entropy
Entropy
December 15, 2022 4:54 pm

It’s roots must be FNQ.
it never stops with these arseholes.

Haaaay, I resemble that remark! Eh!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 4:54 pm
JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 4:55 pm

Further to Cassie’s comment at 4.39 pm:

How long do we have to wait for Dutton to show some leadership? Is he going to fire up in 2023 or just plod along creating no waves at all. He has a huge target in front of him. I had some hope with regard to Dutton attaining leadership. I am now wondering if he has the guts to do what is desperately needed or just a weak nothingburger.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 4:55 pm

Someone please explain the Diesel price to a simple person like myself.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 4:57 pm

“this election is three months away.”

Despite the Teal hyperbole and lots of dosh, the Teals did not fare very well in Victoria recently and gained nothing. I do think some of the Teal shine has faded and to that I say…..amen.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:01 pm

Let me say this. Not one single atom of time, not one instance did I/we feel threatened in NYC either up or down, east or west or on the subway. There wasn’t a single incidence that I saw requiring police. There was a sense that retailers watching over their security but to be honest all smaller stores that I recall have always kept their doors locked prior to letting people in. It’s not anything new. There’s shit happening? Of course there is because it’s a big freaking city. However, there’s no sense large scale threat.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 5:02 pm

Jacqui Scruby has announced she will be the independent candidate for the seat of Pittwater

Please let this be the daughter or niece of the CEO, founder and sole director (and member) of the Australian Pedestrian Council, Harold Scruby.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
December 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Reports today that Vlad has fired Gerasimov.

gulag in Siberia?

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Twitter Exposing the Real Threat – Leftist Revolution

From Armstrong Economics –

“The revelations coming from Elon Musk gaining access to Twitter demonstrate that the LEFT is the greatest danger we face to civilization and there is absolutely no reason still stand for the United States to remain as one nation. The hatred of the LEFT is so pervasive it is off the charts – but then again, the LEFT historically always seeks to oppress all opposition.

The LEFT has been the source of countless wars to dominate society. The 1848 Revolutions devastated most of Europe. The American Revolution which lasted 8.37 years and the French Revolutions were against Monarchy – not a LEFTIST philosophy, which rose again during the mid-19th century. What most people have no idea about is that this philosophy of suppressing human nature has been around for a very long time. The 1848 Revolution was precisely on time and our model on LEFTIST Revolutions begins with the birth of Sparta around 889 BC. The very word “SPARTA” means self-restraint. As I have written before, Sparta NEVER issued any coinage. They lived under a rigid oligarchic constitution and this is when they hayed Athens and waged the Peloponnesian War against them for their capitalistic freedom despite the fact that it was Athens that defeated the Persians in 480BC. It was Sparta’s constant LEFTIST philosophy that led to the invasion of Rome in 146 BC and their conquest of the Peloponnese at the Battle of Corinth: The Romans under Lucius Mummius defeated the Achaean League near Corinth. Corinth was destroyed, and the Achaean League dissolved.

Just as the LEFT claimed that Putin interfered in the 2016 election and 70% of Democrats ended up believing that story, even the exposure of ‘RussiaGate’ as a total fraud has not changed the minds of the LEFT – they just ignore the fact. Ironically, CNN went after Trump to remove him from office in 2020 because they were actually manipulating the news back in 2016 always giving Trump more time over 17 other Republicans because they thought he would be the weakest candidate and Hillary would win.

Now we have Musk dumping the Twitter files that reveal once again the LEFT interfered in the election. The latest release of Twitter files reveals that their employees did not believe former President Trump had violated Twitter’s policies. Nonetheless, they yield to the LEFT to ban Trump from Twitter to manipulate the election. This release shows:

“I think we’d have a hard time saying this is incitement.”

They added: “It’s pretty clear he’s saying the ‘American Patriots’ are the ones who voted for him and not the terrorists (we can call them that, right?)…”

Another staffer agreed, writing: “Don’t see the incitement angle here.”

“I also am not seeing clear or coded incitement in the DJT tweet,” was the comment written by Anika Navaroli, the Twitter policy official.

“I’ll respond in the elections channel and say that our team has assessed and found no vios for the DJT one.”

In fact, the LEFT rose up again in Paris for another Revolution. They created the Commune Movement in Paris where there was to be no property and everyone would be happy – i.e. Klaus Schwab & the WEF. Indeed, the very term “Communist” was coined there in Paris. Karl Marx was initially a socialist. It was the French who convinced him that all private property should be owned by the state creating a Commune.

Ironically, the last turning point of or Leftist Revolution Model was in 2009. It was at the WEF in 2019 that they release the Build Back Better slogan for all governments to use. The next one is actually in 2032 but it will start to accelerate from 2024. We can clearly see how polarized society has become. This is also the Sixth Wave so we are looking at a major attempt to suppress society under the same philosophy pf the Oligarchy that seized control of Sparta. The elites are behind this own and they always make it sound like they are doing this for us. But in truth, this is all about their power and total control.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/economics/twitter-exposing-the-real-threat-leftist-revolution/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

So from a Twitler (A play on Adolf) with rampant censorship, we are now seeing the emergence of a ‘free speech’ in Twitter.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 5:06 pm

You know, some of these online scammers arent all bad.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11110021/Pedestrian-Council-chair-Harold-Scruby-gives-700-000-cryptocurrency-scam.html
Pedestrian Council of Australia chairman Harold Scruby had to take the company behind the slick investment marketing to court after investing hundreds of thousands of dollars into what he thought were Deutsche Bank ‘Green Sovereign Bonds’.

‘I’m one of the most conservative businessmen you will meet when it comes to investing,’ Mr Scruby told Daily Mail Australia.

‘I rarely even bet on the Melbourne Cup.

‘It wasn’t much more than some of the other banks, just a little bit better.

‘So, I thought “green that sounds good”.

‘It was ultra-conservative, government guaranteed, low interest rate.’

After clicking the link on the website Mr Scruby received a phone call from a man calling himself Shane Porter and claiming to be a Deutsche Bank employee.

The name Shane Porter was fake, as was his claim he worked for Deutsche Bank.

‘He (Shane Porter) was the guy I spoke to throughout this thing, with an English accent, so polite,’ Mr Scruby said.
Mr Scruby was sent a glossy prospectus advertising the ‘Sovereign Green Bond’.

‘It was impeccable. Very professional looking,’ Mr Scruby said of the prospectus.

The document had what appeared to be Deutsche Bank branding throughout and its introduction was supposedly written and signed by the German bank’s CEO Glenn Morgan.

Mr Scruby was convinced to invest $700,000 and split the amount between his company, plus his and his wife’s personal funds to ensure the ‘government guarantees’.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:08 pm

The funniest thing I experienced was heading into a Broadway show through metal detectors with big red lettered signs on the machines saying “NO WEAPONS”.
That’s why you have to love America. They have to remind folks not to take a magnum 45 or AR15 to a Broadway play.

Nice play called Leopoldstadt:

Leopoldstadt frames the narrative of a Jewish family in Vienna over a period of some 50 years. The main set is the drawing room of a wealthy family. There are five acts occurring in the years 1899, 1900, 1924, 1938 and 1955.

It’s quite moving.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:10 pm

He’s like a BOT. Unreal.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:14 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
December 15, 2022 at 5:02 pm

Jacqui Scruby has announced she will be the independent candidate for the seat of Pittwater

Please let this be the daughter or niece of the CEO, founder and sole director (and member) of the Australian Pedestrian Council, Harold Scruby.

Harold, the most boring human being south of the equator.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 5:16 pm

JCsays:
December 15, 2022 at 4:52 pm
That’s likely bullshit, Rodney Rottenhead. Armstrong is a unrepentant felon, convicted of large scale fraud and cannot be trusted about anything. Stores in NYC, at least in the decent areas, are protected by guards and or cops. Street walking cops are very visible. Smaller stores simply lock their doors and look at you up and down before you’re allowed a walk in. Bloomingdale has cops stationed at front and rear entrances. Bergdorf Goodman has private security to keep out potential theiving riff raff like yourself.
While crime in NYC is elevated, it is nowhere the dystopia your crooked buddy suggests it is. Stop posting that bilge, you idiot.

Hey, Jerky Crunt. Using one of your favourite phrases. Fuck Off yourself. And go and play in the traffic. You Pompous Windbag………………………

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 5:17 pm

This is very funny. This is real.

Prepare to laugh your arses off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Windsor_(goat)

Given the history, now I know why the Kings of England had trouble dealing with the Welsh Princes.

Or the Americans negotiating with the British.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:19 pm

Rodney.

Don’t take this the wrong way if you’re really flesh and blood. I swear to God I can’t tell if you’re a real human being or a malicious BOT.

I want to preform a Turing test to prove it. I suspect you’re a bot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 5:19 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
December 15, 2022 at 5:02 pm
Jacqui Scruby has announced she will be the independent candidate for the seat of Pittwater

Please let this be the daughter or niece of the CEO, founder and sole director (and member) of the Australian Pedestrian Council, Harold Scruby.

Also ditto for Ausflag, trying to change the flag for decades with no effect, but good for regular “grants” from the taxpayer.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 5:19 pm

The name Shane Porter was fake, as was his claim he worked for Deutsche Bank.

Trevor Fosdyke nearly got me in a land gazumping scam. I mean a land whale humping sham.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 5:20 pm

Please let this be the daughter or niece of the CEO, founder and sole director (and member) of the Australian Pedestrian Council, Harold Scruby.

Hop to it KD. There’s a Walkley or at least a 2 page spread in Good Weekend in it.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 15, 2022 5:23 pm

…the service guy here recommended a Bosch (yes, another kraut) but he’s been in the industry forever and says they’re reliable.

Watch out for the ones made in Turkey instead of Germany. When we bought ours a couple of years ago there was a hundred or so dollars difference in price. Identical in appearance and almost identical model numbers, only the first letter was different. The lady at Meyer said to take a close look at the box to make sure it said “Made in Germany” rather than “Made in Turkey” before accepting delivery to ensure we got what we paid for.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:25 pm

Mole, that story about what happened to Harry is freaking hilarious.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 5:26 pm

A young doctor had moved out to a small community to replace a retiring doctor. The older doctor suggested that the young one accompany him on his rounds so the community could become used to the new doctor.

At the first house a woman complains “I’ve been a little sick to my stomach “. The older doctor says “Well, you’ve probably been overdoing the fresh fruit. Cut back on the amount you’re eating and see if that does the trick”.

As they left, the younger man said “You didn’t even examine that woman. How’d you come to the diagnosis so quickly?” “I didn’t have to. You noticed I dropped my stethoscope on the floor in there? When I bent over to pick it up I noticed a half dozen banana peels in the trash. That was what probably was making her sick”.

The younger doctor said “Pretty clever. If you don’t mind I think I’ll try that at the next house”.

Arriving at the next house, they spent several minutes talking with a younger woman. She said that she just didn’t have the energy she once did and said “I’m feeling terribly run down lately “.

“You’ve probably been doing too much for the Church” the younger doctor told her. “Perhaps you should cut back a bit and see if that helps”. As they left, the elder doctor said “I know that woman well. Your diagnosis is almost certainly correct, she’s very active in the church, but how did you arrive at it?”

“I did what you did at the last house. I dropped my stethoscope and, when I bent down to retrieve it, I noticed the priest under the bed.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 5:27 pm

Diogenes – done. Definitely German. No Turkish surprises. They do better with textiles.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 5:29 pm

Sentence first, verdict afterwards.

– Lewis Carroll

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 5:29 pm

I want Dutton to succeed. He could start by opposing the Voice.

He need only channel the true voice of actual liberalism.

Make a point that we are all equal and true equality comes down to people – it happens at grass level. A governmental body or similar simply does not have the mechanisms to make that happen. They have rules, penalties, ad campaigns, awards for select people, and frankly they also have politics, wheeling and dealing, favours, infighting, squabbles, and an ever-replenished old guard. All the wrong stuff to bring about actual equality.

And more than this, any institution will have its own need to survive. It would be fatal for the problems to ever be solved. It would be in its own interest to stoke divisions and antagonism to make itself increasingly important and deserving of increasing funds.

There is nothing in ‘The Voice’ that would put it beyond the legion of illnesses that infected ATSIC.

It is in fact the exact opposite of a solution.

As a nation of equals we would welcome celebrations of difference, where people take a special pride in their heritage and ancestors – Italians, Greeks, Chinese, Indians, and so on, all take pride in their traditions, and they are all equals.

The Voice will never deliver equality or respect. It will only encourage division, resentment (and, by God, don’t we see this already?) and breed more pestilent laws to stifle any discussion of what we might think.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
December 15, 2022 5:31 pm

Someone please explain the Diesel price to a simple person like myself.

What the market will bear.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2022 5:31 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

December 15, 2022 at 2:53 pm

Further to Sky, whilst I agree with Latham about Blot, I think Sky had no option to do what it did with Chris Smith. Sky is subjected everyday to leftist activists pressuring companies that advertise on the channel to withdraw their advertising

Irrespective of advertisers, it was the right thing to do.
Smith is a recidivist handsy drunk and deserved the arse for that alone.
But I was especially happy to see him go because I sometimes used to hear him in the car on a Sunday night, and he was invariably all over the latest progressive cause, lecturing mere mortals out in radio land about being bigots, racists and homophobes.
So fuck him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2022 5:32 pm

Also Chris Smith wore architect glasses, so add that to the list.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:34 pm

Real crime stats for NYC, for the month of Oct.

Overall index crime in New York City increased in October 2022, by 5.9% compared with October 2021 (10,930 v. 10,324) driven largely by a 19.3% increase in grand larceny auto (1,244 v. 1,043), a 9.6% increase in grand larceny (4,564 v. 4,163), and a 8.9% increase (1,388 v. 1,274) in burglary.

and

For the month of October 2022, the number of overall shooting incidents decreased in New York City compared with October 2021. Citywide shooting incidents decreased by 33.6% (85 v. 128), driven by significant declines in the Bronx, Brooklyn, northern Manhattan, and Queens. The decreases in gun violence across the city reflect the NYPD’s ongoing work to deploy officers to neighborhoods, public housing areas, and transit stations that need them most and to ensure that our steadfast focus remains on the victims of crime.

Additionally, the number of murders citywide decreased for the month of October by 32.6% (29 v. 43) compared to the same period last year.

With two months remaining in 2022, the tally of illegal firearms seized from New York City’s streets by our brave officers has reached more than 6,100 – with each seizure another opportunity to keep New Yorkers free from the violence wrought by guns. So far this year, 215 fewer people have suffered gunshots in the city, compared to the same period a year ago. The tireless work of the women and men of the NYPD has seen citywide gun arrests rise by 4.3% (3,978 v. 3,815) through October 2022, compared with the same period in 2021. The number of citywide gun arrests through the first 10 months of 2022 continues to stand at a 27-year high – as it did through the first three quarters of the year.

On enforcement, NYPD officers in October 2022 made 4,367 arrests for complaints of major felony crimes, a 16.5% increase over the 3,749 arrests for major felonies in the same month last year. Arrests for major felonies are up 25.8% (39,742 v. 31,582) so far in calendar 2022, compared with the first 10 months of 2021.

We need more armstronging and less real stats.

Struth
December 15, 2022 5:34 pm

Do you speak like that to all the women you have dealings with? Or is that you have a problem with words that have lots of syllables?

Fuck you.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 5:36 pm

Architect glasses

Erkos

Get with the lingo.

Struth
December 15, 2022 5:36 pm

So lets have at it.

When you want to talk to me about language, fuckheads, first talk to someone who constantly uses the word …c……t…., a word I have never used.
Then we might find who has actual principles and who is being a typical tribal leftist.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 5:37 pm

Dover, nobody expects you to sit on this blog 24/7 to monitor obnoxious posts from JC that deliberately foul page after page on Open Threads. A community member who JC doesn’t like posts something (unrelated to him) and in strides JC , attacking for no reason. 99% of the time, he starts the stoushes. In view of this, I believe you should give serious thought to monitoring his posts, until you are able to vet them. Monitoring plus deletion would certainly allow uninterrupted conversations on Open Threads as JC refuses to use the Duelling Thread you put in place for his type of commentary

In my opinion, this suggestion has nothing to do with free speech rights – it has everything to do with decorum and basic decency if Catallaxy is to survive.

This is not someone who is trying to be amusing, erudite. These comments are coming from a mendacious individual. Some may say disturbed and I would agree.

In case you haven’t caught up with some comments last night re the behaviour of JC, I draw your attention to the following posts: I am leaving blog IDs out to spare them from yet another barrage of vitriol.

14/12 at 10.05 pm; 11.50 pm;
15/12 at 12.07 am; 12.28 am; 12.48 am.

That was just a sample from last night – nevermind other members of this community who are also irritated by JC’s behaviour on any given day – or night.

Prior to instigation of the Duelling Thread, I instructed JC numerous times to never attempt to engage with me again. It is more than certain this post will generate a tirade of vitriol and abuse as he reruns his stale invective. I am prepared for that. However, I believe it is well past time to rein in the constant harassment of others here at the Cat.

I think it’s fair to say we have had a gutful of JC’s juvenile, attention-seeking behaviour.

For others, I have no intention of engaging in commentary with regard to Monty, Ed Case or Struth as I tend to scroll their posts and subsequent commentary but I do take note of JC’s constant attempts to dominate and derail this board.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 5:37 pm

Ex AFL player and coach Dean Laidley – currently Danielle, will play in an Australian Open Pride Day celebrity match sponsored by Ralph Lauren.

That could ruin a lot of tennis fantasies. I hope he doesn’t ruin the beach volleyball for everyone as well.

Speedbox
December 15, 2022 5:38 pm

Dot says:
December 15, 2022 at 2:15 pm
To the stock hounds: I have gone deep into CAD/MTL again. Either genius or the gold standard in stupidity.

Speaking of share things…..a couple of days ago Gina Hancock invested deeply in Arafura Resources Ltd (ASX:ARU) snapping up ~8% of the ordinary shares. Arafura trading today around .515c (up from .46/.47 per share, some of which is directly attributable to news of Gina’s purchase).

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 5:39 pm

Wonder if Bomber Thompson is providing the gear?

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 5:42 pm

But you often use wog, dago and other racist words to get back at me, Senor Train.

Also, the comment was about the way you talk to females here showing what a contemptible redneck cunt you are.

C..t is most certainly a contemptible word and only used against contemptible animals like you, you lowrent vermin. In fact it should always be used against contemptibles.

Struth
December 15, 2022 5:42 pm

Here we have somebody capable of upticking himself as easily as he wanks himself stating he can’t masterbate, er manipulate a little picture on the screen.

So how sick were you, Choo choo?
You must have been fucking crook.
That fucking wog is crook all the fucking time….you know the one who says c…t in front of the ladies, and Sancho is off now and then sick as a dog.

You oddly leave and show up precisely with Sancho?

Do you two have a thing going?

Hey it’s OK to talk about it.
It’s 2022 and so that closet door can come swinging open ….just leave your dick alone for a second and give it a push….

Beertruk
December 15, 2022 5:42 pm

From the OZ:

The Mocker’s predictions for 2023: Jacinda Ardern ousted, voice defeat and a special cabinet reshuffle

In his final column for the year, The Mocker ponders what lies ahead in 2023.

January

The Third Test between Australia and South Africa begins in Sydney with the announcement that Australian captain Pat Cummins will address the crowd on the topics of Black Lives Matter and the importance of common folk relinquishing their use of fossil fuels. Play commences following afternoon drinks on Day Five.

February

Chair of the Australian Republic Movement Craig Foster defends his predecessor Peter FitzSimons over accusations he was a polarising figure who set back the republican cause decades. “I prefer to say that Peter had a certain passion for the cause, and that not everyone took to his enthusiasm,” he says. “But I’m confident that as a result of his efforts we will finally become a republic following the demise of King George VII.”

March

Barnaby Joyce announces he will challenge David Littleproud for the leadership of the Nationals and says he has learned the lessons of catering for both conservatives and moderates in the party. “For example, if we were to win government tomorrow, we will ensure that Australia immediately identifies as CO2-neutral,” he says.

April

ABC chair Ita Buttrose says the national broadcaster stands by besieged health reporter Dr Norman Swan. “I said before he was a treasure, and I maintain I was right,” she says. “On that note I encourage you to watch our latest production, ‘What Norman Swan got right about Covid-19’. It is the most informative 30 second documentary I have ever seen.”

May

Australian Rugby League Commission chair Peter V’landys announces that the sporting body incorporates enough special rounds and that its ability to endorse activist causes is limited. “We can only do so much, and what’s more we cannot allow ourselves to be distracted from our core purpose,” he says. “For those reasons, we have informed rugby league supporter groups that we must, regrettably, decline their request for a ‘Just Play Frigging Footy’ round.

June

ABC managing director David Anderson announces plans for a dynamic new television chat show, ‘What Young People Want’, to be hosted by Fran Kelly, Quentin Dempster, Kerry O’Brien, and Barrie Cassidy.

July

On the eve of the referendum, Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney finally responds to demands she provide details on the proposed Indigenous voice to parliament. “I can inform you that the voice will inform parliament, and that its composition is informed to enable it to inform parliament, and that parliament will be better informed through being informed by the informed members of the voice,” she says. “If you have any more questions about the model, please direct them to Shaquille O’Neal.”

August

Following the defeat of the referendum, a sorrowful Patricia Karvelas tells RN Breakfast listeners that the loss will mean devastating consequences for communities close to her heart. “I have been to those places many times, and I can tell you they will be weeping, they will feel powerless at this lost opportunity for self-determination, and most of all they will be very angry their fellow Australians have done this to them,” she says. “Their grief is palpable, whether they be in Fitzroy, or Carlton, or South Melbourne, or St Kilda. And I reckon First Nations peoples would be upset too.”

October

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern concedes defeat to the National Party after Labour loses a record number of seats. In Australia, electoral pundits debate the reasons for her government’s ousting. Was it record inflation, or the impending recession, or the skyrocketing cost of living? Or was it the out-of-control youth crime problem, or the Three Waters and KiwiBuild debacles?

November

As the fallout from Jacinda Ardern’s election loss continues, ABC host Julia Baird makes waves when she asks the panel of The Drum why New Zealanders hate female leaders.

December

AA Batteries Minister Chris Bowen frantically denies he is responsible as reports emerge of MPs and staffers at Parliament House suffering heatstroke en masse. “This is directly linked to the Coalition’s decade of neglect and the Russian invasion of Ukraine,” he insists.

Merry Christmas, everyone. See you next year.

THE MOCKER
The Mocker amuses himself by calling out poseurs, sneering social commentators, and po-faced officials. He is deeply suspicious of those who seek increased regulation of speech and behaviour.

Jorge
Jorge
December 15, 2022 5:43 pm

Billy was charged with “unacceptable behaviour”,[10] “lack of decorum” and “disobeying a direct order”,[16] and had to appear before his commanding officer, Lieutenant-Colonel Huw James.[10][18] Following a disciplinary hearing, he was demoted to fusilier.[1][16]
A Canadian animal rights group protested to the British Army, stating that he was merely “acting the goat”, and should be reinstated

Hahaha.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 5:43 pm

Gravitas Goggles are a subset of Erkos, but for females.

Julia Gillard wore them when striking a “serious” pose.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 15, 2022 5:46 pm

Washing machines – Kleenmaid (Maytag) bought it day we took our big boy home as an infant, that was nearly 32 years ago it’s never missed a beat and in our household it’s done countless washing cycles and still going strong.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 5:48 pm

Slapper – “There will be no Carbon Tax under a government I lead”.

Luigi – “Hold my beer”.

Struth
December 15, 2022 5:49 pm

Dover, nobody expects you to sit on this blog 24/7 to monitor obnoxious posts from JC that deliberately foul page after page on Open Threads. A community member who JC doesn’t like posts something (unrelated to him) and in strides JC , attacking for no reason. 99% of the time, he starts the stoushes.

For those of you who have been here a while, you may recall when I left the little wog alone.

I was arguing with someone else when he decided to butt in , and started calling me racist names like redneck……Oh yes it’s true…he just couldn’t stay out of it.

He has a severe hang up with country men because he has been a useless poofy urban uselessness all his life…met plenty of them…they run on envy.

So with me, I just give him shit, but just remember, he started with the names.

The racist shit.

He doesn’t like getting it back, that’s for sure.

Who the fuck does the dumb bastard think he is?
That fucking stupid he is now constantly crook from the jab and has lost any wit he may have posessed.
He, in later life is realising he is a failure.
A failure as a man.
And a complete dumb bastard who fucked himself up through fear of not being able to sit in a cafe to have a latte.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 5:50 pm

But I was especially happy to see him go because I sometimes used to hear him in the car on a Sunday night, and he was invariably all over the latest progressive cause, lecturing mere mortals out in radio land about being bigots, racists and homophobes.

A-HA!

That is why he did it. He assumed preaching the progressive causes meant he could do what he wanted without having to face consequences.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 5:51 pm

As the fallout from Jacinda Ardern’s election loss continues, ABC host Julia Baird makes waves when she asks the panel of The Drum why New Zealanders hate female leaders

Will actually happen.

Jorge
Jorge
December 15, 2022 5:52 pm

No censorship, please !

No banning.

It’s what makes this blog so great.

Struth
December 15, 2022 5:55 pm

For others, I have no intention of engaging in commentary with regard to Monty, Ed Case or Struth as I tend to scroll their posts and subsequent commentary but I do take note of JC’s constant attempts to dominate and derail this board.

Sniff…

How will I ever go on?…sniff.

Makka
Makka
December 15, 2022 5:56 pm

December

AA Batteries Minister Chris Bowen frantically denies he is responsible as reports emerge of MPs and staffers at Parliament House suffering heatstroke en masse.

No way. With our money they will hire dozens of dirty diesel EPG units to power up PH and smaller units to power their digs. While they full access to OPM they will never go short or anything. Ever.

Struth
December 15, 2022 5:56 pm

Hey Choo Choo.
Remember that during the train versus trucks sage we had a little chat about fuel usage per tonne transported?

Wht were you so demolished by me?

Struth
December 15, 2022 5:57 pm

Hey Choo Choo.
Remember that during the train versus trucks sage we had a little chat about fuel usage per tonne transported?

Why were you so demolished by me?

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 5:58 pm

An uptick from me Struth.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 6:00 pm

Dover, nobody expects you to sit on this blog 24/7 to monitor obnoxious posts from JC that deliberately foul page after page on Open Threads. A community member who JC doesn’t like posts something (unrelated to him) and in strides JC , attacking for no reason. 99% of the time, he starts the stoushes.

GMH back to impersonating Karen again
Actually 99% of the time I don’t start stoushes. The dishonest little weasel (GMH) ignores the Bot deciding to join a pile-on against me last evening when there was nothing said beforehand. In fact, 99% of the time Rotten Rottenhead is calling me a Jerky Krunt just out of the blue with no provocation. I also ignore him moat of the time as he’s stupid. However, this doesn’t mean I won’t whack back some other time.

This is coming from the “gentleman” (GMH) who spent 2 years piling on a harmless, good natured 80-year-old woman. Furthermore, I never started a single interaction with the other battered hubbies last evening and I’m sure as hell won’t take it. I’ll hurt back twice as hard.

The thing I find amusing about the battered hubbies -especially those that piled onto Liz for years like Mr. Zero, the acidic Victorian regional – is that they sure like giving it out as a team but when it comes back on them at an individual level they go crying to Papa Dover. Hilariously, Magic Marvin was calling for Papa’s assistance yesterday when he took another bout of his own medicine. Another 2 year Liz pile onner.

GMH, you’ll always be an acidic, dishonest lowrent turd and few people except battered hubbies believe your crap. Fuck off.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 6:01 pm

JMH says:
December 15, 2022 at 5:58 pm

An uptick from me Struth.

Wow, that about does me in. Karen is so hurtful at times.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 6:03 pm

JCsays:
December 15, 2022 at 5:25 pm
Mole, that story about what happened to Harry is freaking hilarious.

Any time a person prefaces a tale of when they got sucked in by a scammer with ‘Im really very smart” should immediately trigger them being strapped to a chair, Ludovico method style to watch this on a loop for a few days.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 6:04 pm

Sniff…

How will I ever go on?…sniff.

Until the next Train crash I expect. By the sounds of things you’re not that far off. Hopefully, with the trail of toxic and frankly dangerous stuff you’ve been posting over the last couple of years, I wouldn’t be surprised if you get your door slammed in by a swat team Law&order style.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 6:05 pm

a problem with words that have lots of syllables

Death – 1. Yup.
Camps – 1. So far, so good.
Coup d’etat – 3. Problematic.

Truck – 1. There we go.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 6:05 pm

JCsays:
December 15, 2022 at 5:42 pm

But you often use wog, dago and other racist words to get back at me, Senor Train.

Also, the comment was about the way you talk to females here showing what a contemptible redneck cunt you are.

C..t is most certainly a contemptible word and only used against contemptible animals like you, you lowrent vermin. In fact it should always be used against contemptibles.

What does this rant even mean and who is it directed at?

OMG – I think the medics should be called.

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