Open Thread – Tue 20 Dec 2022


Rocks and Ferns in a Wood at Crossmount, John Ruskin, 1847


Subscribe
Notify of
guest

2.2K Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
miltonf
miltonf
December 23, 2022 10:08 am

It’s really Oceania vs Eurasia

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 10:10 am

Apologies for being an inconstant Cat reader, but has Calli vanished?

Christmas preparations, I suspect.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 23, 2022 10:11 am

Branco is my pick. THanks tom

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 10:11 am

Remember the good old days when “you are with us or an enemy” was violent neo-con warmongering rhetoric all decent people should oppose?

https://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/06/gen.attack.on.terror/

Bush said he would not point out any specific countries in his speech.

“Over time it’s going to be important for nations to know they will be held accountable for inactivity,” he said. “You’re either with us or against us in the fight against terror.”

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 23, 2022 10:13 am

The Decolonizing Light project
explores ways and approaches to decolonize science, such as revitalizing and restoring Indigenous knowledges, and capacity building.

Tracing and countering colonialism in contemporary physics

CURRENT ACTIVITIES
Citizen science in Kahnawà:ke

The Kahnawà:ke Environment Protection Office together with researchers from Concordia University is training community members in a citizen science project to develop tools for community-led air quality measurement. The air quality measurement is based on laser scattering. In the webinar partners will discuss its relevance for the Indigenous community, and their collective goals.

custard
custard
December 23, 2022 10:13 am

Sounds like lawyers are doing their final arguments in AZ

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 10:15 am

He didn’t see neo-liberalism coming.

Even Reagan didn’t see where his neo-liberalism would end up (and nor is he to blame).

The New Left used it as cover to advance their agendas, which always included a revolt against traditional sexual norms, including children as sex objects.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 10:15 am

Europe Is Rushing Arms to Ukraine but Running Out of Ammo

As war consumes more munitions, Europe is struggling to increase production of arms to help Kyiv and still defend its own territory

Dec. 22, 2022

Europe, home to some of the world’s largest weapons manufacturers, is struggling to produce enough ammunition for Ukraine and for itself, jeopardizing NATO’s defense capacity and its support for Kyiv, officials and industry leaders say.

A lack of production capacity, a dearth of specialized workers, supply-chain bottlenecks, high costs of financing and even environmental regulations are putting a brake on efforts to increase output, presenting the West and Ukraine with a fresh challenge for next year.

The war of attrition between Russia and Ukraine is now morphing into a rearmament race between Moscow and European members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, who are scrambling to shore up their own defenses in light of the growing threat posed by the Kremlin.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky highlighted the bottleneck during his visit to Washington, D.C., on Wednesday. “The occupiers have a significant advantage in artillery. They have an advantage in ammunition. They have much more missiles and planes,” he told Congress.

The latest U.S. aid package for Ukraine, worth about $1.8 billion, includes the first Patriot antimissile battery sent to help Kyiv. Also in the package is equipment that converts unguided shells into precision-guided munitions, artillery and mortar rounds, and longer-range rockets.

Yet Ukraine’s military fortunes also depend on European countries, such as Germany, that let their defense industry atrophy in peacetime and are struggling to catch up as they focus on securing energy supplies.

Ukraine’s battle against the Russian invasion is consuming ammunition at rates unseen since World War II. Kyiv’s forces have been firing around 6,000 artillery shells a day and are now running out of antiaircraft missiles amid a relentless aerial onslaught by Russia, according to experts and intelligence officials. At the height of the fighting in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas area, Russia was using more ammunition in two days than the entire stock of the British military, according to the Royal United Services Institute, a British think tank.

No country in NATO other than the U.S. has either a sufficient stock of weapons to fight a major artillery war or the industrial capacity to create such reserves, said Nico Lange, a former top official at the German Defense Ministry. This means that NATO wouldn’t be able to defend its territory against major adversaries if it were to be attacked now, he said.

“Governments have been slashing contracts for decades, so companies shed production lines and employees,” said Mr. Lange, a senior fellow with the Munich Security Conference, a global security forum.

The current shortage of shells and missiles is largely due to a shift in the military doctrines of NATO allies in recent decades: Instead of planning for World War II-style ground battles, they focused on targeted, asymmetric warfare against unsophisticated opponents, said Morten Brandtzæg, chief executive of Nammo AS, one of the world’s largest arms manufacturers.

“We need orders of magnitude more industrial capacity,” said Mr. Brandtzæg, whose company is co-owned by the governments of Norway and Finland.

Ukraine uses up to 40,000 artillery shells of the NATO caliber 155mm each month, while the entire annual production of such projectiles in Europe is around 300,000, according to Michal Strnad, owner of Czechoslovak Group AS, a Czech company that produces around 30% of Europe’s output of such munitions.

“European production capacity is grossly inadequate,” Mr. Strnad said. Even if the war were to stop overnight, Europe would need up to 15 years to resupply its stocks at current production rates, he said.

British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said in an interview with U.K. media that an extra 500 million to 600 million pounds, roughly equivalent to $604 million to $725 million, had been added to the British budget to start replenishing ammunition stocks. French President Emmanuel Macron said earlier this year that the war meant that France needed to increase its military capacity and manufacturing speed. In a recent speech, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said “we have made the wrong decisions in the last decades when it comes to ammunition supply.”

At present, Germany doesn’t have enough ammunition to last more than two weeks in case of a Russian attack, German officials said, falling well short of NATO requirements that members should stock enough ammunition for at least 30 days of combat.

This is because, despite being one of the top five arms exporters globally, Germany doesn’t have a large-scale armaments industry, said Wolfgang Schmidt, chief of staff to Mr. Scholz.

The country’s once mass-scale manufacturing has now been reduced to a high-end workshop with small capacity, Mr. Schmidt said.

Germany needs to invest 20 billion euros, or about $21.2 billion, just to meet NATO’s 30-day ammunition requirements, Mr. Schmidt said. However, Defense Ministry officials said that the current budget only envisages just over €1 billion for ammunition in 2023.

One obstacle to rapid rearmament is recent European Union legislation that declared weapons manufacturing not sustainable, cutting it off from some private funding, said Hans Christoph Atzpodien, head of the German defense-industry association.

Some efforts are being made to expand production across Europe. Germany will co-finance the refurbishment and expansion of a Soviet-era factory in Romania to produce both NATO-standard shells and types compatible with Soviet-standard weapons used by Ukraine, according to German and Romanian officials. The project, which hasn’t been previously reported, could be unveiled by the end of this month.

Companies are boosting production too, sometimes anticipating government orders. Nammo, the Norwegian conglomerate, is working to deliver 10 times its normal artillery shell output, according to its chief, Mr. Brandtzæg. The Czechoslovak Group will in 2023 double its output of 155mm shells to 100,000, its owner Mr. Strnad said. BAE Systems PLC recently signed a £2.4 billion contract to supply the U.K.’s Ministry of Defense with ammunition.

Germany’s Rheinmetall AG made a €1.2 billion bid for the Spanish ammunition maker Expal Systems SA; the acquisition, if approved by antitrust authorities, will help Rheinmetall boost production, the company said. It will also build a new production line to make 35mm shells for the Gepard air-defense systems that Germany donated to Ukraine.

“The best way Europe can support Ukraine is to increase production of artillery shells now—this will be the single biggest issue next year,” said Rob Lee, a senior fellow with the Foreign Policy Research Institute, a U.S. think tank.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 10:17 am

The idea that Zelensky is a modern Churchill is off the scale absurdity.

Churchill visited the White House in a khaki air raid uniform.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 10:20 am

Ukraine Diplomatic Flurry Centers on War, Not Peace

Zelensky’s Washington meetings and Beijing trip by Russia’s Medvedev aim to secure support for renewed fighting

Diplomacy is ramping up around Russia’s war in Ukraine, but rather than focusing on negotiations, talks are centered on hardening each side’s battlefield position before a potential Russian offensive that Ukraine and its allies expect early next year.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday implored U.S. leaders to provide his country with more weaponry—and deliver it quickly—during a visit to Washington, his first trip outside Ukraine since Russia launched its large-scale invasion on Feb. 24.

“Russia could stop its aggression if it wanted to, but you can speed up our victory,” Mr. Zelensky told a special joint session of Congress. He mentioned a peace initiative that he had discussed with President Biden but made clear his priority is receiving more weapons.

Mr. Biden, while refraining from significantly increasing arms deliveries, said at a news conference with Mr. Zelensky that the U.S. would continue supporting Kyiv in the fight. “What we talked about today was we’re going to continue to help Ukraine succeed on the battlefield,” Mr. Biden said.

Hours earlier, former Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing to discuss the war and related economic issues, delivering a signed letter from Russian President Vladimir Putin, China’s Foreign Ministry said. While Mr. Xi urged Moscow and Kyiv to exercise restraint in their fight and reiterated calls for peace talks between the two sides, he left no doubt where his allegiance and support lie.

Mr. Xi lauded China-Russia ties, Beijing said, and Mr. Medvedev said in an online post that the two had discussed industrial cooperation and other aspects of their strategic partnership. While the Chinese leader has outwardly tried to distance Beijing from Moscow, Mr. Xi has deepened ties in other ways, including building on trade relations in defiance of Western pressure, The Wall Street Journal has reported.

Both sides are seeking advantage on the battlefield as winter sets in and fighting grows more difficult in freezing conditions. Kyiv and Moscow are also working to gain the upper hand in preparation for what many see as inevitable negotiations—though the timing of any talks remains far from clear and appears months away at the earliest.

European diplomats say they strongly believe that Mr. Putin is determined to mount a new offensive at some point between February and April, and so won’t be interested in negotiations until he has attempted a fresh assault and seen how it plays out. Ukrainian military officials have also predicted a Russian winter offensive.

Mr. Putin on Thursday dismissed such suggestions. “Our goal is not to ramp up this military conflict, but, on the contrary, to end this war, that is what we are striving for and will strive for,” he said.

One day earlier he showed signs he is preparing for a protracted war by promising his armed forces unlimited funding for equipment and hardware to pursue the military campaign in Ukraine. He ordered his commanders to supply more improved weaponry to troops, upgrade communications and modernize military draft offices.

Concerns re-emerged this week that Russia might try to shore up its position by drawing its neighbor Belarus into the war, after Mr. Putin visited the country and met with President Alexander Lukashenko, Russia’s staunchest supporter among foreign leaders.

For now, Russian forces are continuing a monthslong assault around the city of Bakhmut, which Moscow’s troops and paramilitaries have been trying to bludgeon from Ukraine’s control.

Mr. Zelensky on Tuesday visited Bakhmut to display support for his troops and defiance toward Russia. “To ensure Bakhmut is not just a stronghold that holds back the Russian army—but for the Russian army to completely pull out—more cannons and shells are needed,” he told Congress on Wednesday.

Russia over recent days has continued attacking Ukraine’s power infrastructure, leaving millions of civilians without heat or electricity for extended periods. Russian forces have also shelled front-line settlements including Kherson, the southern city that Ukrainian troops liberated from Russian occupation last month.

Mr. Biden on Wednesday said he believed Mr. Putin had “no intention of stopping this cruel war.” The White House announced a new security-aid package for Ukraine of roughly $1.8 billion that includes for the first time a Patriot antimissile battery and other sophisticated munitions.

“The U.S. is committed to ensuring that the brave Ukrainian people can continue to defend their country against Russian aggression as long as it takes,” Mr. Biden said.

Still, Mr. Biden maintained U.S. resistance to giving Ukraine weaponry that could decisively tip the battlefield balance in its favor. Instead, U.S. arms are more likely to help Ukraine secure its current positions and defend against Russian attacks on civilian targets, say military analysts.

French President Emmanuel Macron, one of Europe’s most outspoken leaders regarding the war, weighed in Wednesday with support for continuing a strategy of “absolute defense of Ukraine.”

Mr. Macron, who has been among the only Western leaders to speak repeatedly with Mr. Putin this year, offered oblique support for a negotiated peace, arguing that any settlement of the war should take into account Russia’s security concerns.

At the same time, Mr. Macron reiterated his frequent call for Europe to boost its own defenses, exhorting his neighbors to work toward what he calls strategic autonomy. He said the push for defense capabilities that don’t rely on Washington could boost the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in readying to square off against Russia or other adversaries. It could supplement American might within NATO, rather than compete with or undermine it, Mr. Macron and his advisers have said.

Europe’s inability to deliver Ukraine significant quantities of arms has limited Kyiv’s ability to hit back at Russia, military analysts say.

Amid all the talk of fighting and weapons, Mr. Zelensky dangled hope of negotiations. The Ukrainian president’s talk Thursday of a peace formula follows recent discussion by Kyiv of a 10-point peace plan. Mr. Zelensky’s team is currently fleshing out the plan and aims to present its ideas on or around the first anniversary of Russia’s Feb. 24 invasion, according to European and Ukrainian diplomats.

U.S., Ukrainian and NATO officials have said that Ukraine’s bargaining position at any eventual talks—where it is likely to demand significant concessions from Moscow—will depend on its battlefield position, and so Kyiv wants to prepare for potential peace talks by achieving military victories.

johanna
johanna
December 23, 2022 10:21 am

Dr Faustus says:
December 23, 2022 at 10:03 am

Apologies for being an inconstant Cat reader, but has Calli vanished?

I hope not.

Arky
December 23, 2022 10:21 am

The current shortage of shells and missiles is largely due to a shift in the military doctrines of NATO allies in recent decades: Instead of planning for World War II-style ground battles, they focused on targeted, asymmetric warfare against unsophisticated opponents, said Morten Brandtzæg, chief executive of Nammo AS, one of the world’s largest arms manufacturers.

“We need orders of magnitude more industrial capacity,” said Mr. Brandtzæg, whose company is co-owned by the governments of Norway and Finland.

..
Surely they can just buy from China?
Didn’t the libertarians promise me that the next war would be over in two weeks and a local industrial base was an unnecessary and outdated waste of time?

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 10:24 am

I get the impression the high level support for the memorials to the slain officers are a very crass attempt to paper over a mistake or failure to follow procedure from senior police.

Tell me if I am forgetting myself here but these memorials are rather unusual to me.

It certainly represents a trend up here. Last instance was in 2017.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 23, 2022 10:24 am

More propaganda from the Courier Mail. I am shocked that people in aged care are dying “with” Covid. Naturally the article does not mention any ages, comorbidities or what the proportion of aged care deaths to general population is. This is why MSM is called fake news.

“A quarter of all Covid-19 deaths in Queensland so far this year have been aged care residents new health data has revealed, with experts urging people to mask up, kiss less and keep testing over the festive season.

The federal health department confirmed there had been 633 Queensland aged care residents deaths attributable to Covid-19 as of December 16, making up 26.5 per cent of the state’s pandemic death toll in the same time frame”.

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 10:30 am

“A quarter of all Covid-19 deaths in Queensland so far this year have been aged care residents new health data has revealed, with experts urging people to mask up, kiss less and keep testing over the festive season.

But from 1.1.2023 you’ll need a GP referral for a PCR test.

And just like that, covid was treated like the flu.

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 10:31 am
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 10:32 am

Didn’t the libertarians promise me that the next war would be over in two weeks and a local industrial base was an unnecessary and outdated waste of time?

History rhyming.
https://www.firstworldwar.com/atoz/shellscandal.htm

The Russkis are apparently buying lots and lots of shells & rockets from North Korea.
No chance that North Korea is being used as a funnel for China doing it.
Nope.
They are our partners in peace.

Man the Russkis are going to be over the barrel trou down for China by the end of this.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 23, 2022 10:33 am

Churchill visited the White House in a khaki air raid uniform.

says somebody.
That means Churchill must be a N-N-N-Na-Nice guy.

Whatever would we do without that little gem of knowledge?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 10:33 am

Nolte: Volodymyr Zelensky Plays Our Corrupt Elites like a Fiddle

If Volodymyr Zelensky ever gets tired of being president of Ukraine, Breitbart News should hire him to decode just how corrupt, dangerous, and grotesque America’s self-appointed elites are.

Boy, does he have their number.

I have no issue whatsoever with Zelensky. He’s facing an existential threat from Russia and doing everything he can to save his country. Good for him. I wish Joe Biden and the rest of the establishment loved America even half as much as Zelensky loves Ukraine.

And what Zelensky is doing is perfect; it’s genius…

Zelensky understands just how shallow, pathetic, grasping, insecure, and easily manipulated America’s media, entertainment, and political establishment are and how to control those character deficits to his advantage.

This patriot and former comedian has transformed himself into the precise thing he must be to get what he wants, and that’s a status symbol of virtue.

Zelensky knows what happened to America, how Trump ushered in an era of social panic and conformity.

He knows we are now a country run by frightened and empty fools who form an unquestioning consensus about what’s virtuous (Black Lives Matter, Fauci, #MeToo) and then fall all over themselves to worship and cater to it while ignoring its excesses and lies. What a spectacle it is watching everyone in a mad rush to top one another to prove their virtue, fealty, and loyalty to the latest symbol of status.

Zelensky understands this, and that’s why he has perfectly positioned himself as The New Thing, Today’s Totem of Virtue: Russia evil. Putin evil. Look at me in Vogue — see, I’m just like you! Watch me parade around like Fidel Castro in military attire. You guys loved Fidel, amiright?

Zelensky has brilliantly — brilliantly! — positioned himself to be The Thing Through Which The Establishment Proves Its Purity.

That means the only questions anyone dares ask about Zelensky and Ukraine are…

Who can give Ukraine the most money?

Who can give Ukraine the most weapons?

Who can give Ukraine the most praise?

Who can lick Zelensky’s boots the cleanest?

Zelensky is getting everything he wants and more, including America flirting with nuclear war. Why? Because he was savvy enough to crack the code of the shallow, insecure, conformist idiots we elect and reelect as our leaders.

The man is a genius.

I don’t blame him. I blame us, our politicians, and the voters who put them in office.

Don’t blame Zelensky if the nukes start flying. He’s just trying to save his country. Good for him.

No, if the nukes start flying, blame Joe Biden, CNN, Mitch McConnell, the Washington Post, Nancy Pelosi, the New York Times, Lindsey Graham, and the rest… Blame the morons who virtue-signaled us into Armageddon — not to save a country, but to retain their precious status among the worst people in the world.

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 10:35 am

Nolte: Volodymyr Zelensky Plays Our Corrupt Elites like a Fiddle

Nails it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 10:37 am
Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 10:37 am

The federal health department confirmed there had been 633 Queensland aged care residents deaths attributable to Covid-19 as of December 16, making up 26.5 per cent of the state’s pandemic death toll in the same time frame”.

So, even though these QLD Age Care residents mask up, kiss and cuddle less, have been jabbed x number of times, they are still dying of/with the ‘Rona. FMD.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 10:40 am

Thinly veiled propaganda front, TranSanta, delivers trans presents to trans kids
TransSanta describes its mission:

“Right now, young trans people, particularly Black and Brown trans youth, are under attack across the country and around the world. The COVID-19 pandemic has exacerbated unsafe conditions for trans youth who are houseless, in foster care, in detention, and in abusive or otherwise unsafe housing situations.

We want to show trans young people that they are loved, supported, and have a family of people around the world who care about them and want them to succeed.

Anyone can be a Santa, join us! Transness is so beautiful and we are celebrating our magic!”

The group’s Instagram is a nightmare.

Take notice that, whenever the LGBTQ+++™ movement hijacks a Western holiday and perverts its symbols to serve its own interests, everything immediately becomes all about transgenderism, all the time.

None of this has ostensibly anything to do with Christmas, except that the holiday is a convenient vehicle to ram more propaganda down the throat of the public.

Survey: one in four respondents believe Santa should be gender-neutral or female

Santa Claus is infamously a straight white male with a Christian background, which, of course, makes him a de facto bigot.

MatrixTransform
December 23, 2022 10:41 am

Volodymyr Zelensky Plays Our Corrupt Elites like a Fiddle

Zelensky was always their court jester

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 10:45 am

Santa Claus is infamously a straight white male with a Christian background, which, of course, makes him a de facto bigot.

Not really as Santa has been delivering presents all around the World for eons and to black, brown, pinky white, yellow and whatever colour next without any discrimination whatsoever. So there to all those wowsers and real bigots……………………….

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 23, 2022 10:47 am

Wasn’t the issue that Zelensky addressed Congress in his khaki pantomime costume? Churchill wore a suit.

Photos of Churchill meeting in the Oval Office also have him in a suit, although he wore his Siren Suit walking in the gardens of the Wgite House.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 10:50 am

Beware of politicians in khaki.

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 10:52 am

Zelensky was always their court jester

[I am serious now, not trolling like before.]

I want to understand why you think this.

Who is controlling him?

He’s arguably one of the most powerful people on the planet and well liked, Putin’s “liberation invasion” was an utter failure.

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 10:58 am

PJW – masculinity is under attack!

Me – actually kind sir, sanity is under attack.

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 11:04 am

https://metro.co.uk/2022/12/21/ilford-man-first-to-be-fined-for-catcalling-woman-in-street-17977345/

It’s totally not subjective at all!

The only way to end this is for men to complain even worse than women about being complimented.

Dragnet
Dragnet
December 23, 2022 11:06 am

Dot @ 9.16 am
I was a Local Courts counter jockey for a few years and there were heaps of times when I / we would be threatened, spat at, have knives pulled by members of ‘the element’ but it would hardly occur to us to go bleating about it, it was just seen as being part of the territory.
Of course we might occasionally hit the Duress Button wired to the adjacent cop shop, but it was a rarely exercised option.
Perhaps we were made of tougher stuff 40 years ago

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 11:07 am

Xanthe Gregory @xanthe_gregory
The federal Member for Calare Andrew Gee is resigning from the Nationals Party effective immediately over its opposition to the Indigenous Voice to parliament. He will be an Independent @abcnews #breaking

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 11:08 am

Good.

The Voice is racist bullshit.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 23, 2022 11:09 am

Global Times: an invaluable prism into CCP humbug:

China-Australian business representatives look to tap business potential after high-level meeting

Full of promise:

Vaughn Barber, chairman of AustCham China [?]:

“As COVID restrictions are relaxed, AustCham is optimistic about the prospect of companies being able to resume normal business operations and anticipates that business executives will be able to visit China again. This will be positive for the continuing development of Australian business in China,” Barber said.

Pointing out Australia’s prior commercial awfulness:

Tim Ford, the CEO of Treasury Wine Estates, told the Global Times in a written interview on Thursday that it is pleased to see renewed engagement between Australia and China in recent months, including with Wednesday’s meeting in Beijing.

China is the major destination market for the world’s quality wine, including from Australia. While the share of Australian wine has significantly dropped in China after anti-dumping tariffs in late 2020, the significance of China’s market remains to the Australian company.

With a little caveat:

An employee with a large domestic steel company told the Global Times on Wednesday that while importing Australian coal will be a good thing as it may reduce high production and transportation costs, domestic production together with other imports can meet the current domestic demand for coal.

And, of course, the expected quid pro quo:

It’s not just the Australian side that hopes to see changes. China also has its concerns, which need to be properly responded to and handled. For example, many Chinese companies’ investment proposals were disrupted or blocked by the Australian government over the far-fetched “national security” allegation, which was obstructive to the healthy development of bilateral relations, Chen said.

Come in spinner – tool up and bend right over for Round 2 of bilateral relations without lube.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 23, 2022 11:12 am

The Voice is racist bullshit.

All the voice will be is a vehicle for the activists, and an instrument of division.

Arky
December 23, 2022 11:17 am

Tim Ford, the CEO of Treasury Wine Estates, told the Global Times in a written interview on Thursday that it is pleased to see renewed engagement between Australia and China

..
What a dumbarse.

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 11:21 am

The Voice is racist bullshit.

I thought that The Voice was a TV talent show for aspiring Singers………………..

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 11:22 am

Russia Mocks Hollywood-Style Zelensky D.C. Trip: No Calls for Peace

From the Comments

– The standing ovations in Congress looked like a group of seals barking for a morsel of fish.

– Poor guy, he had to wear sweat pants because someone in the administration stole his luggage.

– his wife was shopping on the chamos elysees in paris 5k for a bag…i do not trust him
i trust putin more

– By “morsel of fish”, I’m sure you mean, “millions in kickbacks”.

– It was a sickening spectacle, I couldn’t watch the entire embarrassing episode. When Democrats and Rino Republicans agree on anything it means Americans are getting hosed.

John H.
John H.
December 23, 2022 11:23 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
December 23, 2022 at 11:12 am
The Voice is racist bullshit.

All the voice will be is a vehicle for the activists, and an instrument of division.

Jobs for the boys. That’s why the activists love it. Another department, another bureaucracy, another ATSIC.

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 11:23 am

Putin’s “liberation invasion” was an utter failure.

There was little desire for a return of Russian overlordship in the Ukraine.

Who’d have thought otherwise? The FSB & Putin, apparently.

I don’t imagine other states in the former SU are about to say dobro pozhalovat to a new Russian empire either.

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 11:23 am

– his wife was shopping on the chamos elysees in paris 5k for a bag…i do not trust him
i trust putin more

Putin stole 200 bn, let’s not be driven by envy!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 23, 2022 11:25 am

Just heard good interview on 4BC.

Alan Dare the local killed along with the 2 cops is having his funeral today. He was a big Ford fan particularly 78 Cobra. So a Cobra owner, Troy, had offered to drive his Cobra with the widow inside. Lots of other Ford car owners also going to join the procession and seems some Holden’s also allowed at the back. Troy encouraged people in Ipswich, where funeral will be held, to turn out in support wearing any Ford clothing they have. Car clubs are supporting honouring Dare so it should be a good send off.

Troy gets my vote for man of the week as a genuine guy trying to help the family.

areff
areff
December 23, 2022 11:28 am

XY daughters?

Where would the AFLW be without ’em?

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
December 23, 2022 11:38 am

Its been a honor to financially carry Aust. these last few years from the so the called ‘back waters’ of West. Aust. With the support of West Aussie tradies , tattooed tea ladies and a handfull of billionares Aust. terms of trade were kept in ‘the black’.We wish our eastcoast ‘layabouts’ a Merry Xmas and hope you get back to work in 2023.

Crossie
Crossie
December 23, 2022 11:40 am

miltonf says:
December 23, 2022 at 7:55 am
Why do people even bother with Sky let alone pay for it? FMD. It’s legacy meja and like the rest of the legacy meja it deserves to die.

Sky after dark is not bad, Rowan Dean is outstanding and Rita Panahi is very good.

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 11:43 am

A Catholic priest in a small rural town was very fond of his 10 chickens and 1 handsome cock he kept in a hen house behind the rectory.

Then one Saturday night the priest discovered that the rooster was missing. This news came the same day he’d heard rumours of cock fights being held in town.

Shocked and dismayed, he decided to say something during Sunday’s Mass. During Mass he asked the congregation “Who among you will confess to sporting a handsome cock?” All the men stood up.

“No, no” he said. “That’s not what I mean. Who among you will confess to having seen a handsome cock?” All the women stood up.

“Oh, no” he said. “That’s not what I mean either. Who among you will confess to having seen a cock that doesn’t belong to you?” Half the women stood up.

“Oh Lord” he said. “Perhaps I should rephrase the question: has anybody seen my cock?” All the choirboys stood up.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 23, 2022 11:43 am

Probably best for Russia to retreat and concede some provinces like Rostov on Don to Ukraine (as well as handing over Belarus to Zelensky) as well as compensation for each dead Ukrainian and a bloc grant for reconstruction – beg for forgiveness, give up nuclear arms, have gun control, set the Russian forces to no higher than 100,000, have elections, execute Putin and join the EU and promise never to attack NATO, also have UK, US and Ukrainian ownership of Western Moscow and the Kremlin for 99 years.

And a pony … dont forget the pony.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 11:45 am

We wish our eastcoast ‘layabouts’ a Merry Xmas and hope you get back to work in 2023

Thats North Eastern Tasmania to you!

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 11:45 am

Via OldOzzie

according to experts and intelligence officials

An interesting distinction.

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 11:45 am

The thrill I got discovering Buster Keaton when I was growing up was so exciting. He was one of the greats.

– John Cleese

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 11:46 am

And a pony … dont forget the pony.

No, Putin gets to be the pony!

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 11:47 am

Churchill visited the White House in a khaki air raid uniform.

Fake news.

C.L.
C.L.
December 23, 2022 11:49 am

Churchill visited the White House in a khaki air raid uniform.

False.

He wore it for novelty photo sessions.

He otherwise wore a conventional suit and tie at all times, including for press conferences with the President and during his Congressional oration.

Zipster
Zipster
December 23, 2022 11:51 am
Christine
Christine
December 23, 2022 11:51 am

The trend for themed send-offs is popular; if a send-off is mainly for those attending, I guess it makes some sense.
But I don’t see how it’s “honouring” the deceased.

Cassie of Sydney
December 23, 2022 11:55 am

Andrew Gee should resign immediately and recontest his seat as an independent and one of his policies should be the Voice. Let’s see how he does in a by-election.

Gee whizz, here’s my prediction….he’ll lose.

Zipster
Zipster
December 23, 2022 11:57 am
Cassie of Sydney
December 23, 2022 11:59 am

Another reason not to vote for the stupid, stupid Liberals, NSW Liberals are setting a 70% emissions reduction target by 2035, announced today by that faux Liberal Matt Green.

Bye Dom. It’ll be sweet, very sweet.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
December 23, 2022 12:01 pm

Dotsays:
December 23, 2022 at 9:16 am

Yep, cuss and slap a register jockey and it’s the same as king hitting an on duty cop or going buckwild in an emergency department.

I don’t even necessarily support these laws that create seperate classes of people. Equating shoppies to a firefighter attending a housefire?

Why not just laws (and actually enforced penalties) against assault. Period. I agree, there shouldn’t be classes of people when it comes to assault.

I would say that I find an assault against a checkout chick disgusting, especially as many are young girls or in quite a few cases now, middle-aged or senior citizens. I would hope that anyone who tried that would be begging for the Police to arrive after the public finish with them.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 23, 2022 12:07 pm

Why not just laws (and actually enforced penalties) against assault. Period. I agree, there shouldn’t be classes of people when it comes to assault.

I would say that I find an assault against a checkout chick disgusting, especially as many are young girls or in quite a few cases now, middle-aged or senior citizens. I would hope that anyone who tried that would be begging for the Police to arrive after the public finish with them.

Precisely. Originally cops had no more rights or consideration than the people they were policing.
Also things are often capable of being resolved without the intervention of government agents.

1

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 12:07 pm

Daniel Ricciardo’s chances of driving at Bathurst SKYROCKET as Red Bull F1 team makes huge announcement about Australia’s most iconic racetrack

The chances of seeing Daniel Ricciardo driving at Bathurst have skyrocketed with Red Bull announcing they will take an F1 car to Mount Panorama during the Bathurst 12 hour weekend.

The dual-title winning RB7, driven by Sebastian Vettel and Aussie Mark Webber in 2011, will run demonstration laps of the iconic circuit in early February.

The driver of the car will be announced next year, but rumors say it could be Ricciardo whose new role with Red Bull includes commercial activities.

‘This will be the best opportunity in 2023 for Australian F1 fans to get up close and personal with F1 machinery and an even rarer opportunity to see a Formula 1 car lap Mount Panorama.’

In 2011, Jenson Button and Craig Lowndes became the first drivers to lap the famous circuit in an F1 car. Such was the speed they were travelling at, a helicopter filming the event could hardly keep up.

Motorcycle GP legend Valentino Rossi will also take to the grid in 2023’s Bathurst 12 Hour race.

The 43-year-old Italian, a seven-time world champion on two wheels, will drive a BMW M4 GT3 for the WRT team in the high-octane event.

The highest-profile driver to compete in the Australian endurance event since its relaunch in 2007, Rossi will be racing for the first time at Bathurst.

He is no stranger to Australia, though, having eight times won the MotoGP on Phillip Island prior to his retirement from bike racing in 2021.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 23, 2022 12:08 pm

Stone temple pilots.

Huge 2,000-year-old Mayan civilization discovered in northern Guatemala (22 Dec)

Lasers used in such systems are able to penetrate vegetative canopies over rain forests, revealing what is on the ground beneath them.

In this new effort, the researchers flew over parts of Guatemala as part of a mapping effort, when they came across what they describe as a vast ancient Maya civilization. In studying their maps, they were able to see that the ancient civilization was made up of more than 1,000 settlements covering approximately 650 square miles, most of which were linked by multiple causeways.

I’m sure if they look hard enough they’ll spot the house Keith Richards used to live in.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 23, 2022 12:10 pm

Ukraine uses up to 40,000 artillery shells of the NATO caliber 155mm each month

I don’t know, but I’ve been told the Ukies have found out the hard way
not all big bricks are the same.
It may say 155mm on the side of the tin, but the EULA fine print is a bit important.
As in not bursting the barrel important.

Speedbox
December 23, 2022 12:12 pm

Dear Perth Trader,

Thank you for your kind wishes however I must point out that you appear to be under a misinterpretation of the master/slave dynamic. Our role here in the East of the nation is not to work like you in the West; our role is to ensure that you continue to work in order that we may continue the lifestyle we have hitherto enjoyed.

In the earliest days of modern man we regarded the Neanderthal with suspicion and derision. We could have harnessed their physical power to make our life more comfortable but alas, we did not. Nevertheless, we learnt our lesson and whilst we still distrust those in the West and laugh at them, we have learnt to harness, and profit from, your endeavours.

All the very best and get back to work,

The East.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 12:16 pm

dover0beach

I hate to see such cynicism around Christmas..
Surely you dont think its been worskhopped and massaged for general dissemination?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 12:19 pm

The Real Goal of Zelensky’s Ukrainian War Effort Is “Zelensky Is Wanting Regime Change in Russia” – Tucker Carlson

The only people happy about Zelensky’s visit to Washington appear to be the politicians who love moving US taxpayer dollars overseas.

The Conservative Treehouse described Zelensky’s actions as follows:

Volodymyr Zelenskyy arrived in DC earlier today to visit the White House and deliver a speech before a joint session of congress. Dressed in his customary casual attire, Zelenskyy demanded representatives of the American people adhere to his demands and provide more taxpayer funding regardless of public opinion.

Tucker Carlson also commented on Zelensky’s visit.

Of course we know no one’s ever addressed the US Congress in a sweatshirt before but they love him much more than they love you…

Tucker mentioned that the welcome given to Zelensky reminds him of the welcome the crooks in Washington DC gave to Sam Bankman Fried. Look at how well that went.

Tucker says that ultimately, it comes down to this:

Zelensky is wanting regime change in Russia, like in Iraq and Libya and a long list of failed states except this time in the heart of a landmass next door to the entire civilized world…

… The point [of Zelensky’s visit] was to fawn over the Ukrainian strip club manager and hand him billions more dollars from our own crumbling economy. It is hard if not impossible to imagine a more humiliating scenario for the greatest country on earth.

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 12:22 pm

Perth Tradersays:
December 23, 2022 at 11:38 am
Its been a honor to financially carry Aust. these last few years from the so the called ‘back waters’ of West. Aust. With the support of West Aussie tradies , tattooed tea ladies and a handfull of billionares Aust. terms of trade were kept in ‘the black’.We wish our eastcoast ‘layabouts’ a Merry Xmas and hope you get back to work in 2023.

I’d love to work if I could. Still haven’t been jabbed though and never will…………………….

Tom
Tom
December 23, 2022 12:24 pm

Tucker Carlson just replayed a selection of the American news media parrots suckholing the Democratic Party and comparing Volodymyr Zelenskyy to Britain’s wartime prime minister Winston Churchill — cheered on by one of the media’s useful idiots, Michael Ramirez.

Vicki
Vicki
December 23, 2022 12:26 pm

Why do people even bother with Sky let alone pay for it? FMD. It’s legacy meja and like the rest of the legacy meja it deserves to die.

Don’t agree. “Outsiders” has been a saviour for us dissidents during the pandemic. His “Ice Age” segment is hysterically funny, and also accurate. Rowan & his mates, and the his fantastic OS guests (eg Nigel Farage, Jordan Peterson et al) are the voice of sanity in a world gone mad.

We don’t mind Sky News in our household, either. And although I confess I thought (without knowing much about him) that Paul Murray was a yobbo, I now watch him regularly. He is absolutely fearless unlike the mass of the MSM.

Vicki
Vicki
December 23, 2022 12:29 pm

Perth Tradersays:
December 23, 2022 at 11:38 am
Its been a honor to financially carry Aust. these last few years from the so the called ‘back waters’ of West. Aust. With the support of West Aussie tradies , tattooed tea ladies and a handfull of billionares Aust. terms of trade were kept in ‘the black’.We wish our eastcoast ‘layabouts’ a Merry Xmas and hope you get back to work in 2023.

There is much truth in what you say. But don’t forget the rest of rural Australia – the Ag sector – which has contributed a huge amount to the public money that our governments regularly give away.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 23, 2022 12:31 pm

Interesting article on the weed which contaminated salad greens across the country last week.

The peculiar history of thornapple, the hallucinogenic weed that ended up in supermarket spinach (22 Dec)

The culprit is thornapple, otherwise known as jimsonweed or, to give it its scientific name, Datura stramonium.

Multiple cases of poisoning, now extending into their hundreds, have been reported across numerous Australian jurisdictions in the past couple of weeks, following the consumption of baby spinach.

Not native, it arrived somehow from North America.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 23, 2022 12:35 pm

In 2019 40 Democrats Signed a Letter Condemning Azov Nazi Battalion in Ukraine – Now They’re Funding Ukraine and Its Nazis with Over $100 Billion in US Taxpayer Dollars

The Ukrainian military’s Azov Division is famous for promoting Nazis and Nazi symbols.

Meanwhile, at home in America, the Biden regime is also famous for labeling its political opposition as white supremacists and their supporters regularly refer to patriotic Americans as Nazis.

Back in 2019, 40 Democrats signed a letter saying they condemned the Nazi Azov Battalion in Ukraine.

Kanekoa The Great dug up this letter from 2019.

On October 16, 2019, the top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee’s counterterrorism subpanel, Rep. Max Rose (NY), led a letter signed by forty Democrats asking the State Department why they had not placed Ukraine’s Azov Battalion on the U.S. list of “foreign terrorist organizations” (FTOs).

In the letter, the lawmakers compared the Azov Battalion to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), and discussed how, Brenton Tarrant, the Christchurch, New Zealand mosque shooter, who massacred fifty-one people in 2019, had been radicalized by the “ultranationalist militia organization” which “openly welcomes neo-Nazis into its ranks”.

Read the rest here.

and

And here are the 40 Democrats who signed on to the letter.

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 12:35 pm

QLD had a bumper export year, excceeding in value NSW & VIC combined, I believe.

Not just coal and minerals but meat, vegetables & fruit, oils and even manufactured goods.

Most of the wealth is created in the regions, but spent in SE metropolitan corner. BIRM.

shatterzzz
December 23, 2022 12:39 pm

Never come across this German general before but he was doing remarkably well right up until ..
Tho he wouldn’t have known it was the last day .. !

Meet Lieutenant General Ernst-Guenther Baade, recipient of the Knights cross with Swords and Oak Leaves. He was colorful, idiosyncratic and a maverick in the German army. He was also a gentleman and chivalrous. While serving in Africa he captured a British engineer who guided him safely through a minefield and let the man go as a reward. He spoke excellent English and would radio enemy artillery units to cease fire that interfered with his raids. After being recalled from Russia due to his outspoken criticism of the Nazis, he was put in charge of the Volkssturm, units made up of old men and boys for a last ditch defense. He did more evading than assigning, preferring not to send these men to their deaths. Near the end of the war he was threatened with arrest by his Gestapo handler, whom he shot to death and went into hiding. His luck finally ended on the last day of the war when the car he was driving near his home in Schleswig-Holstein was attacked by a fighter bomber and he was killed instantly.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 12:44 pm

Just visiting the arsehole of the nation. Wow, a whole city dedicated to the impoverishment and subjugation of the Australian People!

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 12:47 pm

Accept people’s comments re sky after dark. Still don’t see why a subscription should include all the muck that Fairfax, ABC and news serve up anyway.

local oaf
December 23, 2022 12:47 pm

Right now, young trans people, particularly Black and Brown trans youth, are under attack across the country and around the world.

I don’t think they were under much of an attack until the Left adopted them as a handy weapon to use against the rest of us!

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 12:48 pm

Sums up Canbra very well. A despicable place.

Roger
Roger
December 23, 2022 12:48 pm

Just visiting the arsehole of the nation. Wow, a whole city dedicated to the impoverishment and subjugation of the Australian People!

Still makes all of the “World’s Best Cities” lists, rick.

Presumably voted in by people who’ve never lived there.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 12:48 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 12:49 pm

A parasite trying to destroy the host

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 12:50 pm

rickw

If you listen carefully you can hear the sucking sound as the countries wealth is funneled to it.
Imperial cities – always a blight.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:02 pm

Yes Canbra’s actions regarding water, punative taxation, electricity and cloward-piven style immigration prove its hostility to Australia and Australians. A truely vile place dedicated to the impoverishment of the nation (commsuper recipients excepted)

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:03 pm

A good sheep station ruined.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
December 23, 2022 1:07 pm

Speedboxsays:
December 23, 2022 at 12:12 pm
…..Great comeback….lol. Best Wishes.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:09 pm

Not to mention Canbra’s aggressive multi cultural policies. They hate us and I hate them.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 1:15 pm

Tick the box on “elite forces emascuted” then??
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/23/secret-report-warns-of-morale-and-mental-health-issues-among-australias-elite-soldiers
A secret report has warned of morale issues and a “high” demand for mental health support services amongst Australia’s elite soldiers.

The report warns the defence minister, Richard Marles, that some members of the Special Air Service Regiment have expressed “anger and grief” about the situation. It urges the government to ensure health services are properly resourced.

The document, obtained by Guardian Australia under freedom of information laws, provides an update on the cultural reforms from the Brereton inquiry into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan.

Despite relaying concerns about morale, the independent oversight panel led by the former intelligence watchdog, Dr Vivienne Thom, said it believed “humility” was now embedded in special forces culture.

The panel told Marles it believed “the level of risk of unethical behaviour amongst the SASR members and commandos is at a level where Australia should have that confidence in them”.

It said the focus on humility and service to others “dramatically lowers the risk that the special force’s unique levels of capability will drive an unhealthy exceptionalism in future”.
….
The four-year-long inquiry by Maj Gen Paul Brereton criticised a “warrior culture” within the SASR, and argued members “should pride themselves on being model professional soldiers, not on being ‘warrior heroes’”.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 23, 2022 1:16 pm

It’s that time of year……when the Andrews Government brings out all the bad news about how poorly governed Victoria is, Dumps and walks away.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:22 pm

Murray Valley Highway condition report, it’s two years off becoming a gravel track.

Australia has the easiest road building condition in the world, and the worlds shitiest roads.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:24 pm

I think the roads in Zimbabwe might even shitier

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:25 pm

The four-year-long inquiry by Maj Gen Paul Brereton criticised a “warrior culture” within the SASR, and argued members “should pride themselves on being model professional soldiers, not on being ‘warrior heroes’”.

At least the documentation of the Treason is comprehensive.

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 1:26 pm

Churchill visited the White House in a khaki air raid uniform.

Bahahahaha!!! The Dunkin Doughnut wrongologist at his best!!! 😛

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:28 pm

Why does Australia have the easiest road building conditions in the world?

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:30 pm

The guys who built the first road over the blue mountains certainly didn’t think so. What a ridiculous statement

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 1:34 pm

And you can find videos of Churchill in the US at the Smithsonian:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/darkest-days-world-war-ii-winston-churchills-visit-white-house-brought-hope-washington-180961798/

Khaki for staged photo op only. No khaki at Congress address or Press Conference.

In most Australian Parliaments, you can sit in the chamber (as a man) without a tie as you’ll be kicked out. I know cos I was kicked out whilst advising at-the-table on a Bill with a suit and no tie…

“Oh but CNN tolds us so” cries Fatboy…

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 1:35 pm

**can’t** it in the Chamber without a tie!

ffs

custard
custard
December 23, 2022 1:36 pm

HT Captain Seth Keshel

I watched the movie Interstellar a few years ago. While Sci-Fi is not my go-to for movies, I have enjoyed some films or shows in the genre, such as The Man in the High Castle, which strangely enough, bears far too many similarities to today’s world than I would prefer to notice. In Interstellar, astronauts seeking to save humanity from extinction travel through space and enter the atmospheres of various new worlds, in which x seconds in that atmosphere equals y minutes or days or weeks or years on Earth.

In this vein, I feel as if states like Georgia have been conquered for decades, and not just for two years. Arizona can be lumped into the same group, given that it was (and is) a Republican state, but has been machined into being whatever it needs to be to accomplish a political narrative. Right now, Arizona needs to either be a blue state or a RINO state to repel an America First advance upon the nation, with Donald Trump and Kari Lake leading the charge.

We are wrapping up the Lake v. Hobbs trial as I type this, and I am led to believe that there are two main outcomes that may advance from it, and perhaps Abe Hamadeh’s case, as well. Both are favorable to the long-term agenda of ridding our elections from corruption, though one is far more immediate and much more preferable.

Scenario A

Judge Thompson grants the relief requested in Lake’s lawsuit, either in the form of a new election, or by declaring her the victor. I would expect, if one of those two were chosen, for the former to be chosen, and this is probably the best case, if Maricopa County is restrained from practicing its usual tactics, techniques, and procedures for manipulating election outcomes. Lake, after all, will need to carry her own sense of legitimacy if she becomes Arizona’s governor.

This scenario will also bring about the death of the “election denier” narrative and will make a fool of every media personality, politician, and journalist who has mocked fraud affirmers such as myself for two years. This will result in a pillar to post sacking of all major election fraud hubs now that election fraud has been introduced to courts on a grand scale. This is the best scenario we could hope for, and after two days of damning evidence and a defense making a fool of itself, it may not be such a pipe dream after all.

Scenario B

Caving to pressure, Judge Thompson punts and scoffs at the defense for bad behavior, but says something along the lines of his dismissal of Count III (Signature Verification) in Lake’s case – “due to the fact that the transition is already in motion, the vote is certified, so we can’t change that in this court, but I am ordering…”

This will rightfully piss off two-thirds of Americans, especially those who are newly red-pilled with eyes wide open at how deliberately and meticulously their votes are being ripped off. It will no longer be safe to be a Republican who says a “Trump cult” is obsessed with imaginary election fraud, and the slow march toward what began with the 1770 Boston Massacre will accelerate here in the present time.

I see no scenario in which Judge Thompson punts the case, which would certainly be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, that doesn’t dial the temperature in America up to a point that would make November 2020 look like a time of national unity and togetherness.

Judge Thompson is under intense pressure. I remain hopeful that the same God who changed Saul to Paul and turned him from persecution to ministry will do the same over the American judicial system and return us to a society that values the Rule of Law. If this domino comes crashing down, the fight is on for a two-year sprint to return the White House to the hands of Patriots.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 23, 2022 1:39 pm

Fair Shake, you got that right. We’ve just had the Chief Protector of Natives inform the work experience kids of the $2m bill he’s racked up for targeting a private citizen- and the Kerryn Phelps piledriver will be ignored by the jab jab booster booster booster co-conspirators at Their ABC until long after all the chief talking heads return from their eight week summer break.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:40 pm

Why does Australia have the easiest road building conditions in the world?

Actually easiest construction and maintenance conditions. It’s relatively dry, generally geologically stable and no winter freeze.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:41 pm

Same then in similar climates around the world

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:42 pm

The guys who built the first road over the blue mountains certainly didn’t think so. What a ridiculous statement

FMD. One little tough patch and we’re in tears.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:42 pm

Like I said building roads and railways across the great divide is not easy.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:43 pm

Seems to me you determined to find everything is bad here when in fact it’s not.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:43 pm

Same then in similar climates around the world

Yes. Except Australia is probably flatter than most similar climates.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 1:44 pm

Is Zelensky wearing a khaki jumper worse for your hurt feelings than that time Obama wore a tan suit? LOL.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:45 pm

So now you’re poo pooing Blaxland Lawson and Wentworth

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:46 pm

Australian mountains might be low but they are rugged

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:47 pm

Seems to me you determined to find everything is bad here when in fact it’s not.

It’s not bad, but it could be so much better and the trajectory is poor. There’s plenty of countries in the world that didn’t deprive their citizens of employment for not taking experimental medicine. That’s a real shitness marker right there.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:49 pm

Australian mountains might be low but they are rugged

I’m not saying their not, but the vast majority of Australian roads aren’t within miles of anything resembling a mountain.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:50 pm

Agree with your original beef but why diss the whole place and all the people because of its evil political media adminstrative class. Plenty of real people doing real jobs.

johanna
johanna
December 23, 2022 1:50 pm

The culprit is thornapple, otherwise known as jimsonweed or, to give it its scientific name, Datura stramonium.

Jimsonweed was a name familiar to me, being mentioned in many Hollywood movies involving rural settings, also in American books. It was sometimes called ‘loco weed.’ Very bad news for livestock.

There is another clue in the botanical name. Datura is the forename of several hallucenogenics. I dimly recall some connection to Indian (the real ones) bad guys.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:51 pm

The Newcastle Freeway is bloody amazing.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 23, 2022 1:51 pm

Sandstone and limestone are abundant and easily worked road base.
IIRC, SW WA is one of the cheapest spots to build roads- fjordland in Norway is the most expensive, having hideously hard rock to work through and around, and persistent icy conditions needing a very flat camber, so intensive drainage infrastructure too.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:52 pm

I think the Canadian government is even slightly more evil than ours.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 23, 2022 1:53 pm

Most of the wealth is created in the regions, but spent in SE metropolitan corner. BIRM.

A little perspective, please.
Those 2032 Olympics won’t pay for themselves y’know.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 23, 2022 1:53 pm

From Daily Mail. Only part of article.

Dr Chant was asked about Dr Phelps’s vaccine injury by 2GB host John Stanley on Wednesday morning.

Dr Chant said that she would personally investigate the vaccine injuries of Dr Phelps but still stood by the Covid vaccine as the safest thing to protect Aussies from getting Covid-19.

‘Vaccines of all ilks can be associated with side effects, but on balance being vaccinated is the safest thing and the best thing,’ Dr Chant said.

‘I’ll follow up with Dr Phelps, obviously, it is the TGA that is the body that investigates these sorts of things, but it is important to know that the community is reassured that we take these things very seriously,’ she said.

‘It’s also important to know internationally many vaccines have been given, so we can also use the data that’s been collected internationally to inform those risks and benefits of vaccination.’

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:54 pm

Agree with your original beef but why diss the whole place and all the people because of its evil political media adminstrative class. Plenty of real people doing real jobs.

Let me be clear. My primary beef is with the scum running this joint. My secondary beef is with the sheep who keep voting them in.

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 1:54 pm

Is Zelensky wearing a khaki jumper worse for your hurt feelings than that time Obama wore a tan suit? LOL.

Was Munted being wrong about claiming Judge Reinhart was appointed by Trump (or most other wrong claims) worse than when he claimed Churchill wore khakis?

Personally, I don’t recall ever being upset a Obama’s dress sense. So you’re wrong. Yet again.

(Although, Michael Obama’s dresses are seriously questionable)

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:55 pm

Hume Highway is generally pretty good except between Goulburn and Sutton forest

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:55 pm

I think the Canadian government is even slightly more evil than ours.

They have almost certainly nosed ahead with their legalised murder of citizens.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 23, 2022 1:56 pm

I’ll buy into the argument.
Whilst there are some grate Australian roads, they have nothing on the Euros or Americans (North and South)

And let me add, the challenges of replacing most of QLD roads after a wet season are significant.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 1:58 pm

Well people thru out Rudd, brumby, Keating and Whitlam and got the same shit anyway

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 1:58 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
December 23, 2022 at 12:16 pm
dover0beach

I hate to see such cynicism around Christmas..
Surely you dont think its been worskhopped and massaged for general dissemination?

I’m quite confident that m0nty-fa did not do his own research into the subject.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 1:58 pm

Hume Highway is generally pretty good except between Goulburn and Sutton forest

It is, except for the massive pot hole just north of Albury. The Victorian side is slowly falling apart, especially as you get closer to Melbourne. Some reasonably dangerous bits with road surface detaching and water channeling into the wheel tracks.

johanna
johanna
December 23, 2022 2:01 pm

Roger says:
December 23, 2022 at 12:48 pm

Just visiting the arsehole of the nation. Wow, a whole city dedicated to the impoverishment and subjugation of the Australian People!

Still makes all of the “World’s Best Cities” lists, rick.

Presumably voted in by people who’ve never lived there.

Au contraire, it’s a great place to live if you are on a public service salary, or a tradie able to charge top rates.

Not a lot of ‘refugees’ end up there, and as it services the ‘elite’ there are many fine dining establishments and high class prostitutes of all sexes.

The streets are clean, everything works (over-engineering to protect the pollies) and as long as you stay away from Mooseheads and the office of the Minister for Defence, you will be fine. 🙂

John H.
John H.
December 23, 2022 2:03 pm

Philosophers tackle ancient mystery of why women clean and men don’t notice

Rubbish. The following provides a more biologically based explanation. He has a tendency to overreach but does his homework and raises interesting ideas to explore; including why women are more cleanliness oriented. He is a young conservative with some interesting videos.

How Disgust Drives Society, History and the Right

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 2:05 pm

The streets are clean, everything works (over-engineering to protect the pollies) and as long as you stay away from Mooseheads and the office of the Minister for Defence, you will be fine.

The contrast between Canberra and Melbourne is quite jarring. Melbourne is grey, grubby and smells of vomit.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 2:07 pm

Regarding the Hume Highway and the Murray valley highway- it has been an exceptionally wet spring. Regarding American roads, at least we don’t have lesbian bridges here yet like they do in Florida. It fell down.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 2:08 pm

Kowloon Tong station in Hong Kong smelt of piss when I e there

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 2:09 pm

Regarding the Hume Highway and the Murray valley highway- it has been an exceptionally wet spring.

It has been exceptionally wet, pushed the numerous sections that were on the cusp of falling apart over the edge.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 2:10 pm

m0ntysays:
December 23, 2022 at 1:44 pm
Is Zelensky wearing a khaki jumper worse for your hurt feelings than that time Obama wore a tan suit? LOL.

I’ll take this as a concession that the workshop edition babble about “Churchill in a boiler suit” red herring is a failure.

Crossie
Crossie
December 23, 2022 2:11 pm

Zipster says:
December 23, 2022 at 11:51 am
TikTok Spied On Forbes Journalists

And it obviously made no difference whatsoever.

johanna
johanna
December 23, 2022 2:12 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
December 23, 2022 at 12:50 pm

rickw

If you listen carefully you can hear the sucking sound as the countries wealth is funneled to it.
Imperial cities – always a blight.

Ancient Rome was a ‘blight’? Ancient Athens? You would prefer that these heights of civilisation were reduced to the level of the Dubbo Art Gallery or the Proserpine Cultural Centre?

Annoying as it is to you, every single civilisation has featured cities where talent and money were concentrated. It’s the way of the world – get over it.

If there is a way for ‘da regions’ to dominate, it has yet to be found. Or is it like Marxism, just hasn’t been done right yet?

Crossie
Crossie
December 23, 2022 2:13 pm

Tom says:
December 23, 2022 at 12:24 pm
Tucker Carlson just replayed a selection of the American news media parrots suckholing the Democratic Party and comparing Volodymyr Zelenskyy to Britain’s wartime prime minister Winston Churchill — cheered on by one of the media’s useful idiots, Michael Ramirez.

Tom, Ramirez is now indistinguishable from all the other lefties. AF Branco is now the best American cartoonist from your daily postings.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 2:15 pm

Annoying as it is to you, every single civilisation has featured cities where talent and money were concentrated. It’s the way of the world – get over it.

They start that way, they don’t end that way, nor has Canberra ever been that way! 🙂

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 23, 2022 2:15 pm

Travelling from Canberra to Melbourne – haven’t driven down here for ages.

Ridiculous method of getting out of Canberra – you drive north and then west. At one stage the highway goes to one narrow lane each way and down to 50 kph through Murrumbateman.

Roads pretty fair and we are now past Albury/Wadonga. For some reason petrol stations on the way are few and far between, totally unlike going up to Sydney.

johanna
johanna
December 23, 2022 2:15 pm

Yes Canbra’s actions regarding water, punative taxation, electricity and cloward-piven style immigration prove its hostility to Australia and Australians. A truely vile place dedicated to the impoverishment of the nation (commsuper recipients excepted)

The MPs don’t come from the ACT.

It may be satisfying to blame someone other than your local MP, but it is hardly accurate.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 2:18 pm

Ridiculous method of getting out of Canberra – you drive north and then west. At one stage the highway goes to one narrow lane each way and down to 50 kph through Murrumbateman.

Roads pretty fair and we are now past Albury/Wadonga. For some reason petrol stations on the way are few and far between, totally unlike going up to Sydney.

They way in is definitely ridiculous. There is definitely a distinct lack of petrol stations / break opportunities.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 23, 2022 2:18 pm

I’m off to Canberra tomorrow. Extended family Christmas. Will visit the Big Pothole North of Albury on the way. Taking in the sights of corruption, starting with the ACT DPP, then onto the peoples swamp. Any tips should the subject of politics come up over the Christmas festive season?
Am taking some pointers from the FIFA World Cup. Whistle, yellow cards, red cards, free kicks, penalty shots. …and that is just if the name Wilkinson pops up.
I fully expect the term Murdochs Newscorp empire to get a run.
I’ll throw in Ivermectin to get the game underway.

rickw
rickw
December 23, 2022 2:20 pm

Will visit the Big Pothole North of Albury on the way.

It’s in the left lane, as you approach you be wondering how on earth something like that can be on a highway!

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 23, 2022 2:22 pm

There are far too many foolish people out there whose reaction to political overreach is “govern me harder, daddy.”

Read about it over at Quadrant.

Mater
December 23, 2022 2:25 pm

Will visit the Big Pothole North of Albury on the way.

Be sure to keep the kids away from the edge.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 2:27 pm

Woke = Broke.
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/402350.php
Including Manga as “comic book sales.” Over the past few years, Japanese imports of manga comics have become the biggest segment of comic books sold in the US. That’s right — Japanese imports now beat the homemade American product. You’d think that right there would be proof that the American comic book industry is fallen on hard times, but instead, they claim… that when you add Japanese sales together with American sales, total sales have never been better!

Ethan Van Sciver says this is like Ford executives high-fiving each other in 1980 about how great Honda’s sales are, and that’s exactly right. What the hell does the good financial fortune of manga companies in Tokyo have to do with desperate American creators in New York, LA, and Portland, Oregon?

And yet, the comic book shill “press” makes this kind of argument.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 23, 2022 2:28 pm

Canbra’s despicable actions against Australia come from public serpents like Parkinson and Henry. Pollimuppets are just that

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 23, 2022 2:28 pm

Zelensky was always their court jester

[I am serious now, not trolling like before.]

I want to understand why you think this.

Who is controlling him?

US deep state now.

Previously Ihor Kolomoisky.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 2:30 pm

Ancient Rome was a ‘blight’? Ancient Athens? You would prefer that these heights of civilisation were reduced to the level of the Dubbo Art Gallery or the Proserpine Cultural Centre?

Ask the people they conquered.
Canberra is an abomination.

Vicki
Vicki
December 23, 2022 2:32 pm

The four-year-long inquiry by Maj Gen Paul Brereton criticised a “warrior culture” within the SASR, and argued members “should pride themselves on being model professional soldiers, not on being ‘warrior heroes’”.

Give me a “warrior culture” to protect me and mine any day!

Mater
December 23, 2022 2:36 pm

It has been exceptionally wet, pushed the numerous sections that were on the cusp of falling apart over the edge.

They are not even bothering to fix the Calder Highway.
They are just blocking off huge lengths of the lane in question, and have effectively turned it into a single lane, dual carriage highway.

Clearly Dan’s got better things to spend our money on.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 23, 2022 2:36 pm

Wow. SBF posted bail. $250M. What a contingency chest.

Petty cash or 10% for the big guy.

Vicki
Vicki
December 23, 2022 2:36 pm

Dr Chant said that she would personally investigate the vaccine injuries of Dr Phelps but still stood by the Covid vaccine as the safest thing to protect Aussies from getting Covid-19.

This is the technocrat who slipped the remark about the coming “New World Order” at a daily press conference. She is THAT stupid!!! Yet she still received some “gong” at a recent Australia Day.

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 23, 2022 2:37 pm

“Trump allegedly failed to stop Capitol riot”.
That’s how stuffed the USA is. Too many leftist bad actors in too many places.
And “our” Sky News Daytime goes along with that narrative.

Crossie
Crossie
December 23, 2022 2:37 pm

rickw says:
December 23, 2022 at 1:58 pm
Hume Highway is generally pretty good except between Goulburn and Sutton forest

It is, except for the massive pot hole just north of Albury. The Victorian side is slowly falling apart, especially as you get closer to Melbourne. Some reasonably dangerous bits with road surface detaching and water channeling into the wheel tracks.

Last month I drove the Syd-Mel and back along Hume Highway and noticed the same things. Really sad when not that long ago Victoria had the best roads.

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 2:38 pm

M0nty says:
August 9, 2022 at 2:24 pm
LOL Trump appointed Judge Reinhardt!

Thankfully the interweb never forgets Munt.

One of many 2022 “highlights”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 2:41 pm

Thought Id change the search terms on ABCcess for Phelps to “Dr Phelps” in case I was missing it.

There is a hit about vaccines

Dr Kerryn Phelps on navigating COVID-19
Dr Kerryn Phelps explains how to navigate a health system under strain as COVID-19 cases surge across the country.

31 Dec 2021
Just Phelps is still just the dope story.

I think shes been taken off speedial.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 23, 2022 2:43 pm

Like m0nty-fa, you seem content to fight to the last Ukrainian. m0nty-fa wants to risk WW III to reduce Russian power, what is your reason?

Boambee, it should be perfectly obvious that Ukrainians are most enthusiastic about fighting the Russians and will continue doing so regardless of what any outsiders think. Am I enjoying this? Yes, absolutely! It’s tremendously good entertainment to watch a fake superpower get utterly wasted on the battlefield in a war of its own choosing. Maybe if Putin’s information ecosystem weren’t so cooked, he wouldn’t have started this in the first place (no, don’t waste my time about TeH uKrAInIAn NaZis in Teh DonBaS or Zelenskyy’s alleged drug addiction – which proves nothing much except which state media outlets you’ve been watching).

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 23, 2022 2:45 pm

Dr. Faustus: “Apologies for being an inconstant Cat reader, but has Calli vanished?”
At certain times of year she is fully occupied with family banquets rivalling those of the Popes of old.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 23, 2022 2:45 pm

The big hole north of Albury, known to locals as Holbrook.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 2:50 pm

The big hole north of Albury, known to locals as Holbrook.

Oh come on, surely someone can whip up a sign saying “Dans leap”, “Hunchbacks hole” or “treasury ditch” and post it at either end of the hole?
Come on people, do i have to do all the mocking here?

Johnny Rotten
December 23, 2022 2:57 pm

m0ntysays:
December 23, 2022 at 10:17 am
The idea that Zelensky is a modern Churchill is off the scale absurdity.

Churchill visited the White House in a khaki air raid uniform.

This Blog could do with a down tick button in order to vote on this sort of rubbish…………….

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 23, 2022 2:59 pm

Oh come on, surely someone can whip up a sign saying “Dans leap”, “Hunchbacks hole” or “treasury ditch” and post it at either end of the hole?

Someone got into Google Maps and marked the place where Biden toppled over on his bike as ‘Biden Falls’.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 3:00 pm

DaFisk

which proves nothing much except which state media outlets you’ve been watching).

I don’t watch news or current affairs on any state media outlets.

The death toll so fat is likely to be over 200,000. How high will it go before you start to consider that enough have died?

PS, I have Ukrainian friends, and understand their antipathy to Russia, and their willingness to fight. I am surprised, however, by the numbers here, at the uttermost ends of the earth, who regard so many deaths as some kind of blood sport.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 23, 2022 3:01 pm

How about “dans staircase”

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 3:02 pm

so far …

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Wowee, Onya Muskie! Thanks bloke!
My Twitter account has been unsuspended!

johanna
johanna
December 23, 2022 3:22 pm

rickw says:
December 23, 2022 at 2:15 pm

Annoying as it is to you, every single civilisation has featured cities where talent and money were concentrated. It’s the way of the world – get over it.

They start that way, they don’t end that way, nor has Canberra ever been that way! ?

Well, all of the great civilisations have ended. The reasons for each one are meat and drink for historians, especially those with an axe to grind.

The fact remains that great civilisations invariably have great cities.

My point is not about Canberra, probably Sydney is currently Australia’s premier city. But, Canberra attracts a lot more brainpower than Bendigo or Ipswich. The pay is better, you are surrounded by like-minded people, and it is a great place to have a family.

Just trying to separate mindless hatred from facts here.

John H.
John H.
December 23, 2022 3:23 pm

Boambee Johnsays

:
December 23, 2022 at 3:00 pm
DaFisk

which proves nothing much except which state media outlets you’ve been watching).

I don’t watch news or current affairs on any state media outlets.

The death toll so fat is likely to be over 200,000. How high will it go before you start to consider that enough have died?

PS, I have Ukrainian friends, and understand their antipathy to Russia, and their willingness to fight. I am surprised, however, by the numbers here, at the uttermost ends of the earth, who regard so many deaths as some kind of blood sport.

I’m not at all surprised.

“The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.” – Josef Stalin.

The equation is how many have been killed since the start of this conflict and how many were being killed before the conflict started. This isn’t going to stop. Zelensky and Putin are more interested in preserving their pride than their people.

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 3:24 pm

Good news Salva – what be your handle and I shall follow thee.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 23, 2022 3:25 pm

Pity we can’t go back to the lockdown, Dan’s mishandling of it, and talk about the Dan’s Macabre.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 3:32 pm

The equation is how many have been killed since the start of this conflict and how many were being killed before the conflict started. This isn’t going to stop. Zelensky and Putin are more interested in preserving their pride than their people.

How many Ukrainians do you reckon would die in the peace if Zelensky surrendered. The ethnic cleansing would be horrific.

No, the only person who can stop this war is Putin. Zelensky has no choice.

Speedbox
December 23, 2022 3:36 pm

Perth Trader says:
December 23, 2022 at 1:07 pm

You’re welcome. 🙂

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 23, 2022 3:36 pm

model professional soldier
Yip, let’s just subcontract to Blackwater.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 23, 2022 3:40 pm

How many Ukrainians do you reckon would die in the peace if Zelensky surrendered. The ethnic cleansing would be horrific.

m0nty-fa will fight (metaphorically speaking, of course) to the last Ukrainian, in order to protect Ukrainians from being killed.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 23, 2022 3:41 pm

Correct rickw about the Murray Valley Highway. Just an atrocious road. Loddon Valley Highway is just as bad

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 3:43 pm

I daresay if you ask a Ukrainian whether they are fighting for their own survival, the answer would be yes. They remember history.

Vicki
Vicki
December 23, 2022 3:43 pm

Dr Chant said that she would personally investigate the vaccine injuries of Dr Phelps but still stood by the Covid vaccine as the safest thing to protect Aussies from getting Covid-19.

Re the dearth of references through Google on the revelations of vaccine injury of Phelps and her partner: quite frankly, I am surprised, even given the determined pro vax line pursued by the MSM.
The power of the medical technocracy to gag the press is astonishing. That is, assuming that it is not
the product of self censorship.

Arky
December 23, 2022 3:47 pm

I like how this guy thinks:
“Why we might be alone”.
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcInt58juL4

Dot
Dot
December 23, 2022 3:49 pm

But, Canberra attracts a lot more brainpower than Bendigo or Ipswich. The pay is better, you are surrounded by like-minded people, and it is a great place to have a family.

Wasted brainpower IMO.

The house prices are insane in Canberra, 2.2 mn for a 4 bed, 3 car garage home in Kaleen? Madness! Queanbeyan and Bendigo are a lot more pleasant than the treeless dog boxes being built in Canberra now, even adjacent to the Canberra nature reserve and nearby the upper Murrumbidgee (which are idyllic).

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 3:50 pm

It’s that time of year……when the Andrews Government brings out all the bad news about how poorly governed Victoria is, Dumps and walks away.

Take care if you’re heading down to the Peninsula.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 3:56 pm

Wow. SBF posted bail. $250M. What a contingency chest.

Bullshit talks, money walks.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 3:58 pm

How does this apply to Ukrainians but not Russians?

Ask a Chechen.

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 3:59 pm

Also… Ukraine did not invade Russia with the view to wiping it out. Russia wants to destroy Ukraine and annex its territory. Bit of an existential crisis for Ukraine, not so much for Russia.

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 4:00 pm

M0nty says:
August 9, 2022 at 2:24 pm
LOL Trump appointed Judge Reinhardt!

Arky
December 23, 2022 4:04 pm

How does this apply to Ukrainians but not Russians?

..
Location.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 23, 2022 4:05 pm

Can I put in a vote for the South Gippsland Highway as our worst highway.

Arky
December 23, 2022 4:07 pm

In other words, I would fully support Russians blowing up shit and killing their existential enemies, in Russia.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 23, 2022 4:08 pm

Au contraire, it’s a great place to live if you are on a public service salary, or a tradie able to charge top rates.

Not a lot of ‘refugees’ end up there, and as it services the ‘elite’ there are many fine dining establishments and high class prostitutes of all sexes.

So basically it’s a gated community with the bills sent elsewhere?

John H.
John H.
December 23, 2022 4:09 pm

Arkysays:
December 23, 2022 at 3:47 pm
I like how this guy thinks:
“Why we might be alone”.
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcInt58juL4

Yesterday I watched a video of his on the cosmological crisis. 3 different values for the Hubble constant. Hmmm … .

Does he mention how nearly all the nucleotides have been found in meteorites? He has a point in the sense that the development of complex cells was probably a one off event. I wonder about that, perhaps it did happen a number of times but selection pressures led to one out competing the others. If complexity\the strong anthropic principle were givens we’d expect many such instances. The problem I have with many of these debates though is no matter how many statistical games they play they are still very much peering into the darkness.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18734-why-complex-life-probably-evolved-only-once/

m0nty
m0nty
December 23, 2022 4:09 pm

Ukraine is not Russia’s existential enemy.

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 4:11 pm

I’ve always contended Russia V Ukr is baddies Vs baddies with lots of grey area(s).

I, for one, can’t see why Munt (“Mr-52-Shades-of-Gender”) is so black and white on the issue.

Lysander
Lysander
December 23, 2022 4:12 pm

Thanks for the link John… I’ll certainly check that out later (got some “planes to catch and bills to pay now…”)

ciao for now.

  1. Is that the line being pushed by the DNC/MSM talking points? Very inventive, but hardly credible.

2.2K
0
Oh, you think that, do you? Care to put it on record?x
()
x