Cabins along the Loing Canal, Sunlight Effect, Alfred Sisley, 1896
some guys will f*ck anything that moves
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Taylor Sheridan, who wrote and made Yellowstone, has a new series coming soon. Landman. Watch the two minute clip. Definitely…
A writer of the time recorded admiringly of Queen Elizabeth 1 – “ She bathes every month, whether she needs…
What is that on the ground to the left? Grandpa brought a still?
Must’ve run out of cats, dogs and geese. The Trump Effect: Haitian Migrants Self-Deport from Springfield, Ohio (25 Nov) With…
What an unskilled worker can earn with or without say a HR truck & forklift competencies has a fairly significant income difference.
Dot I’m not talking about anything as tangible as a forklift license, I’m talking about Worksafe box ticking.
Given the way this blog works, when will we see the names of “sooth” and “hear” on the blog.
Then we get –
soothsays:
December 29, 2022 at
and
hearsays:
…
Almost worth the name change.
After two days sweltering, I just put my winter coat back on.
Can’t wait for the hysteria from the Bureau of Mythology if an actual standard hot summer does arrive this year.
Oh, wait — the hysteria has already started.
omg … the butter will soften
I was chatting with my BiL the other day (I am house sitting, well dog sitting) while he and the family spend a few days going bush down Jindabyne.
He is a nice enough fellow, very devoted to my sister and their kids. He is always gracious to me, unstinting as a host, and appreciative of the bottles of scotch I always bring as a gift. And enjoys the beers and wines I bring to accompany meals.
He is, regrettably however, an unrepentant follower of the ABC. I have long since found it wiser to avoid political discussion because he proceeds from a completely different set of facts – and I think he is a little quick to suddenly discover new ‘facts’ that invariably cut right to the heart of a matter of discussions grow too protracted.
The ABC rubs off on people, I suppose.
He surely knows I incline right, but in classic, even diagnostic, lefty fashion he keeps lobbing his lefty talking points – you notice they can never hold their tongues on politics? No matter where they are. with me I think he might not know any other way to have a conversation. It falls to me to to utter some trite non-committal response to disarm the moment.
One of the consequences of his abiding faith in the ABC is that he is constantly perplexed by events. There is no rational way that the premises he has assimilated can produce the result that occurs. So, in time honoured fashion, he transfers the irrational element to problematic people. Things might happen other than he predicts but he is confident his own reasoning is flawless. It is events that are letting his reasoning down.
Americans are crazy, don’t you know. How could they have done away with Obamacare? They could have had a system like ours. Or Britain’s NHS. He believes that before Obamacare anyone without health insurance or an enormous bank balance could never hope to see the inside of a hospital. I am not sure how he can square this with the fact that there would be dead uninsured people littering the streets, or groaning and wailing all through the night as their illnesses ate away at their bodies.
Madness too is the opposition to gun control. He will not have heard that the places with the most gun violence are the ones with the most gun control. Or that most gun violence is Black on Black and therefore the problem might reside within (not necessarily throughout) that demographic. He will not have the slightest inkling of how deeply the right to bear arms might be ingrained in the national psyche, or that people brought around guns, taught the danger and discipline of firearms are the least likely to use them criminally. And that the NRA does not breed mass shooters. Quite the contrary.
From what he knew of America it was utterly incomprehensible that they elected Trump. Who could have voted for him? Sure there are some KKK and KKK-adjacent bigots in fly-over country, but surely they are not that numerous. He will have no idea that the Right is a vast and vibrant part of America. How could he know? The ABC doesn’t talk about them. They ignore them. (As does the MSM and Hollywood.)
But my BiL still possesses some ability to astound me: he asserted that neither the Republicans nor Democrats were parties of big government – that America has no ‘big government’ party.
I suspect the ABC simply doesn’t report on the grotesque overreach because how can leftist policies be overreach? Just sensible policy.
So comrade, you eat animal fat. Would you care to explain yourself?
I don’t think you can generalise like that about ‘the medieval university’ Roger. There were a range of structures across Europe and the UK. Not all early universities had strong religious affiliations, although many did. The hierarchies of study were not uniform either.
Even within the UK, Scottish universities evolved separately from English ones.
wtf?
getting skinned and up-cycled is the best thing you could do for Brush-Tail
Another issue of concern for Dr Aly – who was an expert in counter-terrorism before entering parliament – was the increasing online radicalisation of youth.
Well, this Dr should get a job in the Border Force Mob and stop letting the nutters into the country. FMD.
Arky:
100% agree, Arky. Especially the last part.
It’s when the “tiny minority” have infiltrated the institutions of social control and force their confusion onto the rest of us that action has to be taken. If the tiny minority continue to allow their own confusion to be hijacked by extremist elements in society, then they will also suffer in the backlash when the heterosexuals finally get jack of it.
And they will have no one to blame but themselves.
So comrade, you eat animal fat. Would you care to explain yourself?
Its ok, its free range cockroach milk butter.
Would you like a sandwich inspector?
How can one make a lot of money from pornography without becoming notorious?
I don’t expect logical answers.
But women don’t owe them sex?
Hmm, once again I don’t expect a logical answer.
I’m a privileged gal,
It’s great, I gotta tell ya!
Privileged gal,
My mom can buy and sell ya!
It really doesn’t matter
That you’re on the list in front of me
I’m gonna get your table,
Cuz I always tip the maitre d’
And then I’ll go to Yale
Because I am a legacy!
I’m better than you!
This is beyond parody. It is a “dating” app. That is to say it is a hookup app for casual sex. You are not victims. You are willing participants.
Do these people ever get their heads out of their rear ends?
You want casual sex but protection from men who screw more than one woman at a time.
These people need a clip over the ears.
You’ve heard of the In-Voice.
Now get ready for the You-Con!
😀
What have white middle class men ever done for us?
Sewn together using steel needles from the bushfire forges and yarn from the alpaca thread mills .
Just got a missive from westpac which includes
Westpac acknowledges the traditional owners as the custodians of this land, recognising their connection to land, waters and community. We pay our respects to Australia’s First Peoples, and to their elders, past, present and future.
Why not pay their respects to Captain Arthur Philip and the pioneers who later established the Bank of NSW? THeir website still promoting lesbianism. Getting them out of my life might be a good project for summer.
wimmin only
Dr Aly was an academic, specializing in counter terrorism, before entering parliament. I doubt she’s ever served a day in any police or military counter terrorism unit.
Knuckle Dragger:
I must protest, KD. It was a Virtue Signalling Chair.
He was signalling the extremeness of his sacrifice by demanding special treatment. Do we know what sort of a chair it was?
A Louis XIV chair?
A Chaise Lounge?
A Bar Stool?
Anne Aly’s “expertise” on terrorism is also highly questionable.
Absolutely correct. The decline in standards across the board from prep to 12 is horrific.
Good for you, Rob. Go on and cut your balls off and play blackface you pale, stale nightmare.
“Many, many, many, many, many, many diversity forums.”
“The biggest lie ever told!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL0MuT0v6ds
(Note how filthy Albanians are treated like the Macedonian scum they are).
“Haha! The principal is a tranny!”
Yes you can and I just did.
A discussion has to start somewhere… 😀
Yes, there were variations accordin g to local circumstances and requirements, but that was the general outline of the curriculum across medieval Europe.
Theology, once regarded as the queen of the sciences, wasn’t separated out from the university into church run institutions until well into the modern period, and even then it survives as a university faculty in some countries, most notably Germany and to a lesser extent the UK.
both thumbs for that … nice rant
the missus has a few friend that are exactly like that.
I call it ABC bubble-wrap
Indeed.
I heard Sam interesting story about tinder the other day: about 80% of men never get a swipe right( is that the direction for getting lucky?) so all the women on tinder are chasing that 20%. It’s good to be the king.
You want casual sex but protection from men who screw more than one woman at a time.
She wants Chad Thundercock.
A bad boy, with a hint of danger about him.
Tattoos, possibly a borderline illegal occupation than will punch any incel she accuses of looking at her because hes so devoted to her.
Like a Pentridge prince Charming.
All of these changes to laws are bullshit. Changing bail laws and so on every three months is brain dead idiocy supercharged by talk radio hosts that embarrassed themselves during COVID. (YES YOU, RAY HADLEY).
Apply the penalties correctly and the problems go away.
e.g., constructive murder in company whilst committing a house breaking with intent to commit a serious indictable offence (or maybe just manslaughter).
25 – life is on the cards then (but not as a singular charge).
Look Tanya, I’m upset, ya Mum’s upset…
I question the sanity of a society that point blank refuses bail for people who are presumed innocent but also refuses to sufficiently punish those actually convicted of serious indictable offences.
Megan says: December 29, 2022 at 10:25 am
Was that even before covid??
Anecdotally I reckon there’s been a rise in private sector tutors in the last 10 months in an attempt to fill in the knowledge gaps of recent school-leavers, mainly due to the lockdowns.
inform the Kommisar that I am inhuman
… a toast-based life-form
And with that the death of the suit though both are near universal in the members’ at Flemington for some strange reason.
That this – that violent repeat offenders should be refused bail – has to be lobbied for reveals the moral delinquency of QLD Labor politicians and their mates in the magistracy and judiciary, who’d rather pander to activists than protect the general public.
Figures:
Correct. But look at it more along the lines of “They have something I want – a happy and loving relationship, and I don’t. So I want theirs. And if I can’t have it, I will smash theirs.”
Considering the juvenile attitudes in most gay relationships I’d say that was closer to the mark.
Launch a asteroid at Canberrahhhh.
Very therapeutic.
https://neal.fun/asteroid-launcher/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
RESULTS
4.6 mile wide crater
The crater is 1,763 ft deep
Your asteroid impacted the ground at 37,672 mph
The impact is equivalent to 3 Gigatons of TNT
More energy was released than a hurricane releases in a day
An impact this size happens on average every 58,000 years*
..
An estimated 149,603 people would die from the fireball
An estimated 229 people would receive 2nd degree burns
Clothes would catch on fire within 22 miles of the impact
Trees would catch on fire within 47 miles of the impact
…
* I feel like this bloke.
I got 100% in my 1st Semester Economics Mathematics for that reason. Went downhill from there. But still passed Econs 101.
Colonel Crispin Berka:
The lying has been a constant for years now, and will be a constant next year as well.
Dover Beach needs to make awards – any suggestions for categories?
Thanks Mother Lode. Excellent observation, and it happens just about every time I attempt a rational conversation about Today’s Most Pressing Subject (depending on ABC talking points).
It’s those pesky people who are the fly in the ointment of utopia. If only people would do as the ABC (and by extension, I) want them to do. They never dare verbalise the next logical step. But give them time.
This is Figures with full-on anti all vaxx nonsense. It isn’t hard to predict that new and only ’emergency’ tested mRNA vaxxes might end up having problems give Big Pharma’s interest in pushing them – the extent of which is not yet established, although there is very much a downside to them.
To move from this to a pox on all vaxxes is far too long a bow. Vaccination is a science, and a good one, and it has a long history of success from its earliest days and increasingly so since the era of scientific adancement in the mid-twentieth century. During pandemic influenza in 1920 few were vaccinated in population terms, snake oil vaxes existed, and the vaxxes were not pathogen appropriate. Pathogens are real and attack humanity and our immune systems are in a constant Red Queen battle. Figures has his own ideas unsubstantiated by any science as we know it. He’s welcome to them, but others should not be impressed, and I hope I am welcome here to say that.
There are Professional Gays, just as there are Professional Aboriginals. Neither are drawn from the centre of the curve.
rosie for best j’imist … Covid Blyton – reporting from Topsy-Turvy Land, atop the Faraway Tree
JC for Crowd Control … keep yr dogs outta my yard and I promise I wont feed them a Block of Old Gold
HB Bear & Dot shared for wickedly dry humour
MT … catering
Zulu
Dr Aly was an academic,
Spelling error, that should be “wankerdemic”.
The Meat & Livestock Corporation have offered to sponsor one for Services to Mutton.
The Jacarandas over Islamabad award for visual imagery.
So it begins. New Zealand commences introducing laws that are applicable only to certain and selected segments of the community.
Equality before the law is gone.
This is not a slippery slope, this is a cliff.
The China Situation Isn’t As Bad As It Looks.
It’s Far Worse
Try again Matrix..
She still got voted into Parliament…
US cities need to lift their game
Tijuana surpasses 2,000 homicides for the year
Colonel Crispin Berkasays:
December 29, 2022 at 10:38 am
Megan says: December 29, 2022 at 10:25 am
first year university has declined in recent years into an attempt to teach what used to be covered comprehensively in years 10, 11 and 12
Absolutely correct. The decline in standards across the board from prep to 12 is horrific.
Was that even before covid??
Anecdotally I reckon there’s been a rise in private sector tutors in the last 10 months in an attempt to fill in the knowledge gaps of recent school-leavers, mainly due to the lockdowns.
Well before COVID, Crispin, and that is being kind.
Twenty years ago, a bachelor’s degree in the yartz/soft sciences had sufficient in it to get someone a job in a pubic circus file registry. That is, broadly equivalent to Year 10 some 50 years ago.
For years, two administrators at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology (TJ) have been withholding notifications of National Merit awards from the school’s families, most of them Asian, thus denying students the right to use those awards to boost their college-admission prospects and earn scholarships. This episode has emerged amid the school district’s new strategy of “equal outcomes for every student, without exception.” School administrators, for instance, have implemented an “equitable grading” policy that eliminates zeros, gives students a grade of 50 percent just for showing up, and assigns a cryptic code of “NTI” for assignments not turned in. It’s a race to the bottom.
Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
December 29, 2022 at 11:07 am
Spelling error, that should be “wankerdemic”.
She still got voted into Parliament…
Where she joins those who are merely wankers?
Regarding universities, Havard in particular, Buckley had it right.
Never forget that the reason the Kung Flu vaccines are killing people is that, in the hysteria whipped up by the news media in 2020, Big Pharma was invited to rush them to market without the standard years of trialling and testing — by that rarest of creatures, the can-do politician (Donald Trump).
And I think this counts against the claim that they were primarily established to provide an educated workforce for business, government and trade, as opposed to transmitting and extending the thought and sensibilities of a civilization; in Bologna this centred on a revival of interest in Justinian’s Code, in Paris, Aristotle. Sure, one of the spin-offs over time from universities would be the gradual improvement in education within these trades and professions and elsewhere, but that would have already been occurring through the use of private tutors and the cathedral schools and the like.
Can’t believe Stokes said that about white males and CBDs. There really doesn’t seem to be much hope for the lieboral party except maybe the Roseville branch
dover
Quick question – how many people in 500 AD, 800 AD, 1100 AD and 1400 AD in England were literate?
I suspect it is higher than pop history assumes.
Then there is the pearl of wisdom or myth that literacy only meant fluency, written and spoken, in latin.
Lode, earlier:
Brilliant.
Donald Trump’s mistake was in assuming that Big Pharma was a) competent; b) ethical.
‘Dr’ Jocelyn Scutt, ‘Dr’ Dale Spender
Dale Spender – I remember that bint.
In a column in The Australian many years ago she related how she became a Labor supporter. She said that her parents were lifelong Liberal supporters and devotees of Menzies.
She explained that her conversion came when her high school friends were called up for National Service with the prospect of dying in the Vietnam War. She described the harrowing experience of the whole high school class experiencing the fear and horror of what was unfolding for them.
Why is it that leftists have to invent a narrative to justify their ideological preferences? This experience just didn’t happen. It was concocted years after National Service was abolished.
Men were required to register for National Service on their 20th birthday. A 20yo being still in high school would have been a rare event but according to Spender this experience was common.
Clowns, such as her, need to do some research before inventing their stories. Spender adopted leftism but it wasn’t a result of this purported experience.
And, of course, before feminism it was liberalism. But, setting that aside, why switch from an ideology to persons in the above? Why not say substitute either feminism for women or gays for queer theory/ LGBT ideology so that what is being apportioned blame in the former is the same as the latter?
Cooks and chefs
Blacksmiths
Stone masons
Combat instructors
Stewards (early estate managers and accountants)
Mercers
Sailors (navigators)
Shire reeves
Religious orders
Clerics
Poets, minstrels and actors
Messenger
Shipwrights, wheelwrights and cartwrights
Inkeeper
Scribe
Apothecary
Shoemakers and tailors
Some of these jobs would be damned near impossible without a degree of literacy and numeracy.
How many English villagers in 1100 AD could read and write English, were they taught in cathedral and parish schools, or by their guilds, parents and masters?
Basic latin would be understood from fequent latin masses.
Gabor:
Somebody – a Former Great Military Leader, no doubt – said something similar once upon a time.
“Just kick the front door in – the whole rotten structure will collapse.”
madmen, perverts and satanists
Klizinger a RINOs RINO
open communism
As has been pointed out on this site before, there was an option to two years full time service, in the form of six years part time in the Citizens Military Forces – now the Army Reserve.
You are ignoring the timelines. One university in Bologna is not a trend. The proliferation of universities across Europe and the UK really kicked off in the C15th, as economic activity and government began to expand, and the numbers of educated people required for the workforce increased accordingly.
Young men, or their families, did not pay to attend university in order to improve their soul or character. They went because it was a pathway to a well paid job. The universities were keenly attuned to their market, as they had to pay their own way as well.
A well paid job might include high office in the Church, providing as it did status and comfortable living arrangements. But the vast majority of graduates went into the professions, or senior positions in commerce and government.
It is not surprising that teaching tools comprised a lot of elements of the classics, as they were easily available, free, and reputable. No doubt some teachers also believed in their cultural value. But my point is, that was never the raison d’etre of the many universities that popped up all over the Western world from about 1400 onwards. It was a supply and demand situation with regard to graduates.
George Christensen has put up several links to clips he made during the year. This one is on a topic which has been discussed here at length and I don’t think it’s been seen before.
How to deal with Directors’ ID requirements
Tesla owners blast Christmas car charging chaos with dozens of electric vehicles forced to wait in THREE HOUR queues at charge stations across the UK
. Vehicles were logjammed in Hertfordshire, Cumbria, Westmorland and Telford
. The queues came as millions took to the roads to get home for the festive period
. Around 24 owners were waiting to charge in a Waitrose car park in South Mims
. The Tebay Southbound supercharger in Cumbria also saw a high volume of cars
Kosovo closes main border crossing with Serbia amid tensions
Yeah nah. To do it properly would take at least a week.
America’s electric grid is being targeted in attacks for intentional sabotage.
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
Over the last eight months, there have been 106 attacks. Authorities are investigating, and some news outlets are framing these as being launched by domestic extremists. The data doesn’t line up, however, and the full picture suggests instead that an unknown group may be launching coordinated attacks to bring American energy offline.
Yet there is still a massive cohort around who lived through these years and can refute the lot. But the liars still persist.
It seems to me it’s an early form of LARPing their own parents’ and grandparents’ actual experiences (think Blabbersack and the washboard). The Beloved was in the last call-up. By the time he was supposed to report, it was all over. And not ended by Saint Gough, either.
Iced out! Furious Tesla owners share videos of their cars failing to work in harsh winter snowstorm as arctic temperatures freeze doors shut
. Rachel Modestino, a meteorologist from Canada, was locked out of her Tesla on December 23 after a massive winter storm last week
. Modestino shared a now viral video of her car that was partially frozen
. Temperatures in Ontario hit a low of five degrees on Friday
I only mentioned Bologna because I wanted to contrast Divinity with the Dark Arts of Law.
Not a serious attempt to generalise on Europe or England.
Electricity Prices, Reliability and Ideology
So, apparently we will have electricity prices reduced by a cap on the price of gas and coal and by installing more renewables, and we will have more reliability by installing more batteries and hydro. And Chris Bowen says anyone who denies renewables are cheaper is a liar “This crisis is caused by gas and coal prices, anybody who says it’s caused by renewables is lying..”
Time for a reality check.
All data has been downloaded from OpenNEM.
Figure 1 shows the fluctuation in daily generation of electricity for the National Electricity Market for the year from 3/12/2021 to 3/12/2022, as supply kept up with demand:
while they want to legalise marijuana
Not just in Oz.
Pesky Laws of Physics! Probably too much White Male Privilege gumming up the works.
One Chrissie presentI received is the huuuuge “Explore Australia 2023”. It is very irritating to be constantly bombarded in an otherwise excellent publication by acknowledgment of country (prioritised as the very first thing you read on opening up the book), apologies for publishing images of dead people, claims that 60,000+ years of First Nations history outshine the best of Australia, constant re-education as to which tribes/clans/families “traditionally owned” the area under analysis, and what tourist destinations are Traditional Lands (yes capitalised) of the named nations.
– Earthcrosser, Veruca Salt (1997)
Turn it up to eleven!
Musicians found to listen to and enjoy louder music than non-musicians (Phys.org, 28 Dec)
Well how about that. Amazing! Still it would be better on vinyl, as discerning tastes know.
UK vinyl sales overtake CD sales for the first time in 35 years (Sky News, 29 Dec)
Poms deservedly love their music. The Veruca Salt ladies are Americans though, which I forgive.
Just like Custer at the Alamo.
and what tourist destinations are Traditional Lands (yes capitalised) of the named nations.
Still waiting for my explanation of why Hobart’s Mt Wellington is now known as “kunanyi / Mt Wellington” with the lower case “k” in various signs around the town…
callisays:
December 29, 2022 at 11:48 am
Why is it that leftists have to invent a narrative to justify their ideological preferences? This experience just didn’t happen. It was concocted years after National Service was abolished.
calli,
it was dead simple – I had joined Sydney Uni Regiment over a year before I won the 1st Vietnam National Service Ballot 11 March 1965, to earn some money while at Uni.
Just started work at IBM and going out with my future wife – based on losing 2 years Computer work experience, continued with 6 years in Army Reserve
Learnt some interesting skills during that 6 years
you have real butter?!??! where, how?!?!? who did you blow to get it?
such is life in the great reset
So it begins. New Zealand commences introducing laws that are applicable only to certain and selected segments of the community.
Equality before the law is gone.
Already happening in Australia. If you want to fly an ultralight or a glider, hang glider or paraglider, CASA forces you to join the relevant private organisation which has a monopoly, agreed with and enforced by CASA. About as good a definition of Fascism as it gets. CASA passed regulations through Parliament to get this situation, so there it is, “laws that are applicable only to certain and selected segments of the community”. In this case “members” of these organisations.
A fascinating trend.
The classic albums remain very expensive though.
gays are shockingly promiscuous, makes an absolute mockery of commitment in a relationship.
The US Navy nukes who the 18 month course are highly trained technicians and plant operators. They are not engineers who are the people who design the nukes.
Anne Aly’s supposed C-T expertise is likely Taquiyya.
I had thought many on the Cat would agree with me on this.
A move to a pure anti-vaxx of any sort site would be a bad move for Catallaxy.
Perhap if someone else had said it? lol
And we can now have a referendum on this thingy called the voice . But, how can you or me or anyone else vote on something that is not there. The ‘Pollies’ are FW1s and have NFI.
Bourne 1879:
Which version? Pick any below:
COVID 19
COVID 20
COVID 21
COVID 22
COVID 23, or
COVID Ultimate?
I’m sure Tesla’s are just fine in southern California (when they have enough electricity to charge them). In Canada and other freezing places, not so much. Can’t see them being big in Russia.
I still like this thing for temperate sunny climates around town:
https://aptera.us/
Just leave it out in the Sun. Not so good in Melbourne, but who’d want to live there? Vicco is nice in the countryside.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
December 29, 2022 at 12:12 pm
To move from this to a pox on all vaxxes is far too long a bow.
I had thought many on the Cat would agree with me on this.
A move to a pure anti-vaxx of any sort site would be a bad move for Catallaxy.
Perhap if someone else had said it? lol
Being vaccinated is not the issue here. However, being jabbed by an experimental (mental) gene therapy emergency approved drug is.
Zipstersays:
December 29, 2022 at 11:46 am
Kosovo closes main border crossing with Serbia amid tensions
Looks like Novak is getting banned from the Oz Open again.
Funny how only some countries are able to reclaim their lands taken by others.
I had thought many on the Cat would agree with me on this.
+1000
Its one of the big shitty effects of the covid hysteria and heavy handed enforcement will be to make people less likely to trust/get vaccines.
Anecdote: I had this brought up by our child health nurse spontaneously as already happening. Much more having to chase people up for childhood immunization shots than pre-covid.
someone whose typing didn’t drop the end off her words. 🙂
Sorry about that, at least. Not sorry at all for querying the good sense of people who refuse to vaccinate their kids with well-tested vaccines for common killer childhood illnesses. These vaxxes don’t include the Covid vaxx or other rare and unnecessary vaccinations that are increasingly on the market. I will stand up for the right of parents to refuse any vaxxes at all for their kids, but I think that is misguided. If the Covid rush to vaccination as a solution has done anything, it has set childhood vaccination, a useful medical tool, back for a generation. Children will have to die because of this growing ideology, which I find shocking.
snap, Mole.
Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.
Skiing over Christmas holidays no longer guaranteed—even with snow guns (Phys.org, 28 Dec)
Meanwhile just over the border in Austria the authorities are still looking for skiers after a massive avalanche on Christmas Day. Paging Dr David Viner!
Which is what I said, Johnny, if you check back. However, simply raising the don’t diss all vaxxes flag caused a notable silence from the crowds around me here.
In other words, this is what the hysteria around Covid as brought us to. Mole gets it.
As a proud Macedonian, I blame Albania.
Saint Peter is seeing all the new arrivals trying to go through the pearly gates in Heaven.
The first applicant of the day explains that his last day was not a good one:
“I came home early and found my wife lying naked in bed. She claimed she had just gotten out of the shower. Well, her hair was dry, and I checked the shower and it was completely dry too. I knew she was into some hanky-panky and I began to look for her lover. I went onto the balcony of our 9th-floor apartment and found the guy clinging to the rail by his fingertips.
I was so angry that I began bashing his fingers with a flower pot. He let go and fell, but his fall was broken by some awnings and bushes. On seeing he was still alive I found super human strength to drag our antique cedar chest to the balcony and throw it over. It hit the man and killed him. At this point the stress got to me and I suffered a massive heart attack and died”.
Saint Peter thanked him and sent him on to the waiting room.
The second applicant said that his last day was his worst:
“I was on the roof of an apartment building working on the AC equipment and I stumbled over my tools and toppled off the building. I managed to grab onto the balcony rail of a 9th-floor apartment, but some idiot came rushing out on the balcony and bashed my hands with a flower pot. I fell but hit some awnings and bushes and survived, but as I looked up I saw a huge chest falling toward me. I tried to crawl out of the way but failed and was hit and killed by the chest”.
Saint Peter couldn’t help but chuckle as he directs the man to the waiting room.
Saint Peter is still giggling when his third customer of the day enters.
He apologises and says “I doubt that your last day was as interesting as the two fellows that arrived here just before you”. “I don’t know” replies the man. “Picture this, I’m naked, hiding in this cedar chest…
Well, the medical establishment/government is going to have to earn the public’s trust again, that will take a while.
Also, the heavy handedness during coved also helped more people take notice of the fact that it’s almost impossible to find child care or schools willing to take children who are not vaccinated.
I believe with child care, the insurance providers refuse to cover unvaccinated children?? Not 100% sure.
Also, vaccinations are still medical records, which are supposed to be private information…
I guess that’s not really true any more..
Everything is insurance/risk based.
Hold on, champ.
Many gay men (but not all of them) behave the way heterosexual men would if they could. You might notice that lesbians are considerably different.
It’s not the same sex attraction at work here.
Women are nothing but machines for producing children.
– Napoleon Bonaparte
LOL. Nappy you are nawty………………………
I would have said it was in her imagination
We could have been generating electricity from wind power for the last 100 years.
Q. Why didn’t anyone do it?
A. It was inherently way more expensive than coal, gas or oil.
fancy that, a whore avoidance tool.
Indolent:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1607989683077758977
Something a lot of us have known for over 18 months.
But very few of the general public knew because the media refused to let us in on the secret.
The median Cat position on vaccination is to distrust it as a communist plot, because that is how they tend to view everything in life.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
December 29, 2022 at 12:23 pm
Being vaccinated is not the issue here. However, being jabbed by an experimental (mental) gene therapy emergency approved drug is.
Which is what I said, Johnny, if you check back. However, simply raising the don’t diss all vaxxes flag caused a notable silence from the crowds around me here.
In other words, this is what the hysteria around Covid as brought us to. Mole gets it.
I was not having a go at you. I was just making a point. One that is not always accepted on this Blog. That St Ruth twat for a start. He/she/it/Whatever goes on like a pork chop. Dick head.
It does sound as though people in general do not realise that every vaccine is specific and different for each particular disease. Surely this is apparent, and can be clearly explained by a medical professional
of any standing. Mind boggling. Or I’m getting too old.
I’ve got a sticker on the back windscreen of my car that says “Don’t welcome me to my own country.”
I’ve been very solemnly warned that “Aboriginal people could find that offensive.”
Put down that Maccas hamburger and walk backwards slowly, climate criminal.
Study shows climate impact labels on food sold in fast food restaurants can change buying habits
That just shows that 14% of people are completely bonkers comparted to the rest of us.
Oh and eat the damned tofu burger.
Wealthion, Neil Howe, Forth turning.
Brilliant over view, something for all the generations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9EmSI12raQ
No screening for the Chinese visitors to Australia. But me being unjabbed has trouble leaving Australia. FMD. Our Guv’ment does not represent us.
The median Cat position on vaccination is to distrust it as a communist plot, because that is how they tend to view everything in life.
MontyPox Virus. Is there any truth that Karl Marx’s grave in Highgate Cemetery in North London is a Communist Plot?
The China Situation Isn’t As Bad As It Looks.
It’s Far Worserer
Well, Attapuss has been off his food for days and Dr. Google advises a trip to the vet, before his body digesting some of his overweight sends him into a terminal diabetic, pancreatic or cardiac spinout.
So $180 later he is given the OK for going home without further enquiries – for the time being – given that my purchase of a shrimp paste to rival Peck’s most acrid did spark his appetite last night and today (after the appointment was made) and he’s working at the rear end OK. If the paste continues to work, says the vet, and he picks up his normal foods, then fine. But, she continues, I’ll send you a quote for some blood tests and an ultrasound (around $1000) and anything operative would be about $3000 more on top of that. Ok, I say, leaving a credit card imprint should be catsitter have to rush him down while we are away.
We took him home and he gobbled up another tin of paste and his usual meat left out uneaten from this morning, and then he wailed for kibbles, which I gave him and which he attacked with gusto.
He probably thought we were considering getting rid of him. Or else the vet’s soothing injection for an upset tummy had worked immediate miracles.
You can buy a lot of shrimp paste for $180, Hairy observes. He believes it is all due to Attapuss’s obsession with chasing and eating insects full of bad bacteria.
ML earlier
One of the consequences of his abiding faith in the ABC is that he is constantly perplexed by events.
I share office space with a woman in her early 60s. She is moderately intelligent, but wedded to the ABC for all her news and opinion. Since early 2020 she has religiously listed to Norman Swan’s Coronacast podcast which gives her all she needs to know on Covid. Opnionated, irritating and firm in her view that she holds correct opinions. Even though I am generally speaking a never-Trumper, because I expressed my opposition to Biden I am dismissed as a “Trump Supporter” (her exact words).
Yet when all the Musk Twitter files were being exposed in the last few weeks she was completely bewildered. Information censored to ensure Biden’s election? What laptop? Feds censoring information? She had no idea that there was another perspective because she hadn’t heard it on the ABC.
I suspect that there are many out there like her.
re
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/nsw-premier-dominic-perrottet-labels-labors-fireworks-pledge-across-sydney-harbour-an-embarrassing-announcement/news-story/eef77be1f3a4698e39241477aa8b6716
Beyond mere “bread and circuses”, NSW Labor are offering free fireworks now.
Can’t wait to see Parrothead’s counter-offer, free gladiatorial combat.
Little reef that could news.
‘It just dies’: Yellow-band disease ravages Thailand’s coral reefs (Phys.org, 28 Dec)
Can’t wait for this disease to hit our poor corals, the ABC headlines will be hyperbowl on steroids.
https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1608164970901954560
These people are not normal. They are sick. But they demand we treat their lunatic ideas as normal and we can be gaoled for refusing to do so.
That is no exaggeration. Sticker prices of $60, $70, and even $80 for run-of-the-mill represses at JB Hi-Fi.
Top Endersays:
December 29, 2022 at 12:03 pm
and what tourist destinations are Traditional Lands (yes capitalised) of the named nations.
Still waiting for my explanation of why Hobart’s Mt Wellington is now known as “kunanyi / Mt Wellington” with the lower case “k” in various signs around the town…
Be careful how you pronounce that name, some people might get cheesed off.
Yes. Meet my Bis Sis. However, a few cracks are appearing in their ABC armoury.
Elon Musk is doing sterling work.
m0ntysays:
December 29, 2022 at 12:32 pm
I had thought many on the Cat would agree with me on this.
A move to a pure anti-vaxx of any sort site would be a bad move for Catallaxy.
The median Cat position on vaccination is to distrust it as a communist plot, because that is how they tend to view everything in life.
Prove that statement.
Even worsererer now. Xi’s gone to ground. (The article is from August.)
Xi regime has entirely disappeared in its zero-COVID U-turn (28 Dec)
Very interesting to watch. Xi went total war against the virus and lost, abjectly. So then he did a quintuple backflip with pike and opened everything up again. Now as millions are infected – probably because the Chinese vaccine does the same as the Western ones by making people more vulnerable than less – Mr Xi has disappeared.
Worth keeping an eye on, these are interesting times as they say.
China is going hell for leather militarising, expanding its nuclear arsenal and expanding its sphere of influence. Japan is about to engage in the first major militarisation since WW2. Russia is tripling its standing army and has turned the economy into war production. The US, EU & UK are rotting from within without the industrial base to wage any sort of protracted war.
Anyone who thinks there is going to be peaceful happy ending has their head firmly in the sand.
Zipster
Anyone who thinks there is going to be peaceful happy ending has their head firmly in the sand.
I suspect that their heads are located not quite so low down, but still in darkness.
Winston, it seems like a terrible waste of tomato paste to me.
Spag bol is never going to be the same.
I do hope they’re going the whole hog and injecting/ingesting something to give them vile and persistent stomach cramps to go with the flow of sauce.
Just to be authentic and all.
Monty,
I’m not sure median means what you think it means.
I’m guessing, but I reckon your data set is multi-modal
so yr probably talking crap again
Tom:
62% of the market are supplied by good old King Coal and they think they will be OK when it get gets stopped.
I wish the whole bloody thing would just go tits up so we can get on with our bloody lives – apart from the wailing from the usual suspect.
It’s that concrete barricade thing he parks his car on in the middle of the freeway right? 🙂
smutley doesn’t have the IQ to be able to twist and distort in a convincing way, it ends up as just another rake to his own face
Yep. And Custer was killed at the Alamo.
Because it never gets old:
surprise! the chinks have come bearing new variants as gifts
Seagulls and chips.
Four facts about seagulls that will make you love these relentless chip thieves (28 Dec)
Sausage? Looxury! Fortunately the gulls on Lake Macquarie haven’t found the Cafe, or I’d be swamped. A couple months ago I encountered some of them on the foreshore whilst out walking and had them eating from my hand in about a minute. Coles mince is power.
(I forgive the author, Grainne Cleary, for being a “Researcher, School of Life and Environmental Sciences, Deakin University” as she’s a hot Irish babe. I don’t think I’ll tell her about my Cafe though.)
Hence the joke a lesbian friend told me:
What does a lesbian bring to a first date?
Their whole life.
Well, Attapuss has been off his food for days and Dr. Google advises a trip to the vet, before his body digesting some of his overweight sends him into a terminal diabetic, pancreatic or cardiac spinout.
Why don’t you give it a few Vaccinations?
Can’t do any harm?
The median Cat position on vaccination is to distrust it as a communist plot, because that is how they tend to view everything in life.
Montys position is standing up and muttering “if only Stalin knew” before the wall in front of him is redecorated in “hint of brain”.
What Monty imagines the cat does.
Labor are offering free fireworks now.
Way behind TaliDan in VIC
A free display of fireworks aimed at the backs of lockdown protestors by the very brave VicPol.
I said this, not M0nty, who chimed in later with his usual leftist sniping about the site in general.
I said it because I care about the public reputation of Catallaxy as a forum for open and rational debate.
Critiques of the Covid vaxx are fair; it is appropriate to debate regarding vaccination types and standards of evidence for efficacy or damages on this particular matter of science. Critiques of childhood vaxxes against known killer diseases of children, who can die in agony if unvaxxed, are in no way scientific judged by good and tested evidence. Otherwise, why bother with evidence at all?
One can say this without insisting on childhood vaccination or any other vaxx as mandatory. There should always be room for conscientious objection, that is a princple of a democratic society.
ZK2A:
Establishing “Castle Doctrine” , removing the Police monopoly on self defence, and allowing the prerogative of firearm ownership to defend oneself and family would be a damn good start.
Watch the ‘violent home invasions’ stop.
Which is why these laws won’t happen – criminal violence is one way of keeping a restive citizenry quiet. It’s why the immigrants are from violent, civil war wracked nations/tribes who are the ones most likely to be selected.
I said it because I care about the public reputation of Catallaxy as a forum for open and rational debate.
Course ya do.
Is that why, when I stated that a Mass Vaccination Program was the cause of the “Spanish Flu”, you jumped in and squeaked that there was no such thing as an Influenza Vaccine at the time of the “Spanish Flu”?
paywalled
Scientific American looks at the racist stigmatization of black women’s bodies and obesity
Black women have also been identified as the subgroup with the highest body mass index (BMI) in the U.S., with four out of five classified as either “overweight” or “obese.” Many doctors have claimed that Black women’s “excess” weight is the main cause of their poor health outcomes, often without fully testing or diagnosing them. While there has been a massive public health campaign urging fat people to eat right, eat less and lose weight, Black women have been specifically targeted.
This heightened concern about their weight is not new; it reflects the racist stigmatization of Black women’s bodies. Nearly three centuries ago scientists studying race argued that African women were especially likely to reach dimensions that the typical European might scorn. The men of Africa were said to like their women robust, and the European press featured tales of cultural events loosely described as festivals intended to fatten African women to the desired, “unwieldy” size.
Strings has also published a book entitled, “Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia,” if you want to know more.
Meanwhile – Cosmopolitan Cover Promotes Plus Size Women as ‘Healthy’
Plus
PAST PERFORMANCE IS NO GUARANTEE OF FUTURE RESULTS:
criminal violence is one way of keeping a restive citizenry quiet.
1;29:07 in this Aussie film explains it excellently.
https://youtu.be/m6DpQU5rXDU
I suspect that there are many out there like her.
Yes and they are ‘Laybore’ voters.
Critiques of childhood vaxxes against known killer diseases of children, who can die in agony if unvaxxed, are in no way scientific judged by good and tested evidence.
Apart from being emotional blackmail, this statement is just nuts.
I agree Lizzie.
I’ll make two points:
1. We shouldn’t all have to restate our position on childhood vaccination under threat that by not doing so might comprise the reputation of the site. I’ve stated my position (as have most others) at some stage, I see no reason to do so again.
2. The ease with which the entire medical fraternity was corrupted should give any sane person reason to pause and re-consider what else might have been, or may possibly be, subjected to such influence, corruption and general dishonesty.
It was said earlier, the medical industry has destroyed much of its previous standing. Trust (in my experience) is the hardest thing in the world to obtain, yet the very easiest to lose. The damage is going to last for decades. Many people will be second guessing doctors advice for years. They should have considered this before playing games.
Zipstersays:
December 29, 2022 at 1:48 pm
paywalled
Anti-car Sadiq Khan is destroying London
If he is allowed to get away with his war on drivers, mayors across the country will soon follow his lead
If I cannot get a London Bus to the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium then I will start a riot…………………..Or wreck the Empty Crates Stadium on the way there.
Childhood vaccination is almost mandatory now…
Given that you’re required to submit vaccination data to enrol your child in school. They can be enrolled unvaried, but they will be discriminated against, especially now.
Also, it’s illegal not to enrol your child in school by age 6, so if the law changes, that all children must be vaccinated to attend school, that will take the choice away from the parents.
Wouldn’t take much to change that set up either
Matrix Transform:
What does Old Gold do? Make the dogs shit like Vesuvius?
Zipstersays:
December 29, 2022 at 1:48 pm
paywalled
Anti-car Sadiq Khan is destroying London
If he is allowed to get away with his war on drivers, mayors across the country will soon follow his lead
Sadiq Khan’s latest plan to make it harder to drive should worry us all.
It’s the worst assault on motorists we’ve ever seen.
The London Mayor is determined to price working people off the roads and has ignored their overwhelming objections, giving them no choice, time or opportunity to avoid a ruinous bill. If Mr Khan gets away with this, any other city or regional mayor can impose reckless driving charges across the country. It must be stopped.
First, it is worth explaining why the expansion of London’s Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) would be so disastrous. The current, daily, £12.50 Ulez charge will no longer be contained to central London, where there are the best public transport options and car ownership is low. From August 2023, he will charge the capital’s outer boroughs too, with their car-reliant suburbs and rural villages, hitting more than 200,000 older, non-compliant cars and vans daily.
The mayor’s activist supporters may justify this assault by claiming it is a tax on the wealthy – but it is those on the lowest incomes who will be hit the hardest. Indeed, Transport for London’s (TfL) own analysis shows that more than 50 per cent of outer London households earning as little as £10,000 a year own a car, with car ownership rocketing to 70 per cent of households earning above £20,000.
Does the mayor know what his tax raid would do to such people, who rely on their cars not just to work and pay their bills, but also to shop or visit family and friends? He should leave the comfort of City Hall and come to the doorsteps of my constituency, Orpington, on the very edge of Greater London, where thousands (83 per cent of households own a car) could be hit with an eye-watering annual driving bill of up to £4,500.
Mr Khan should be reminded that, unlike residents in Islington or Camden, my constituents don’t have access to the Tube or trams. They can’t be zoomed across the capital on the shiny new Elizabeth Line.
They do have Southeastern trains into central London, but in recent months these have often been disrupted by strikes, leaving people stranded.
Moreover, not everyone is a commuter; many work in and around our community, and some work in Kent and other areas outside Greater London. This is not unique – it is similar across many outer London boroughs, where even those with a Tube station often rely on their cars to access the public transport network.
But it seems Mr Khan is imposing his extra tax precisely because of – not in spite of – our reliance on cars. He claims to want to improve air quality, but it is really about raising money to save his failing administration. According to TfL’s impact assessment, the air quality benefit from expanding Ulez would be little to negligible. But with hundreds of thousands of people being hit by the new charge every day – or indeed the new hiked fine of £180 for failing to pay the charge – the mayor’s cash grab will raise millions.
There is real danger in this for the rest of the country. If Mr Khan gets away with it, he will have set a precedent for other cash-strapped city and regional mayors eager to make up their budget deficits. They will view it as an easy cash injection as opposed to the more tenuous task of spending taxpayers’ money responsibly. They will drool over their London counterpart’s ability to stage a highway robbery that no one voted for and that a consultation rejected.
Any councillor in the country knows a local authority cannot legally impose car-parking charges, fines or traffic-enforcement measures purely to raise money. But Mr Khan is exposing a loophole: all you need to do is tie the driving charge to poorly reasoned air-quality concerns, give people just nine months’ notice, hike the fine for non-payment, and target areas where you will catch the most people.
It is immoral and unfair, especially during an energy crisis and rising inflation but, shamefully, his war on cars might well succeed unless an urgent campaign is mounted.
It is time ministers looked seriously at the accountability of directly-elected mayors. Devolution has some benefits, but localism doesn’t work when the administrative system suffocates local democracy.
The Hobart City Council are fairly woke, so only a matter of time before they try to change the name of the town.
Prolly to Greenland.
My mother born 1/4/14 told us kids when we were young what she recalled about the Spanish Flu in Newcastle, how she as a 4/5yr old had to wear a mask on the tram and she remembered the man with the horse and cart coming down the street daily calling out ‘throw out the dead’.
Historians reveal little known histories of the Spanish Flu
Protecting People from the Flu: Inoculation
In late November 1918, it was decided that, based on the positive claims for vaccines in reducing the deadliness of the flu, the Commonwealth would pay for citizens to be inoculated with two doses, through a scheme to be delivered by the state governments.
Brownsville (“Bob” for short).
Any cat of mine gets a yearly Feline Enteritis vaxx. Others too, but FE is the main killer.
I learned the hard way. At uni I had a beautiful cat called Sinbad, a little Siamese which I saved up to purchase from a breeder. I was short on cash and didn’t get him vaxxed. He grew to be a lithe and talkative young adolescent animal and I adored him. One day he started throwing up. I did what I could, thinking he’d soon improve but he got weaker, simply lying on a rug. I watched over him until he seemed on his last legs, when a friend and I turned up at the Kings Cross Vets around 1am and banged on doors to open up for poor Sinbad in my arms, me crying my eyes out. The grey-haired old vet got up, let us in, sighed at the no vaxx situation, inserted a nasal tube and put in fluid, and did his best to keep Sinbad alive. He made no charge, and sent us away, saying the next 24 hours would be crucial. At 7am on that cold morning Sinbad started to heave heavily, threw up over the rug, went into a spasm, and died as I tried to comfort him. Feline enteritis. Vaccine preventable.
I imagine you’d feel even worse if you had done this to a child.
Kills them.
Old Gold contains raisins.
Two raisins is usually sufficient to kill a dog. (i.e. two grapes, regardless of how they are pre-treated)
It damages their kidneys, the damage is incurable/irreversible.
I almost never do this sort of thing, but thought why not? Sent this to the Irish bird lady from Deakin Uni:
It’ll be interesting if I get a response. My experience with nature-loving people is they’re almost always wrong in their views in actual practice, but otherwise they seem to mean well.
That’s unfortunate.
Though Siamese are plauged by health problems in general because they have been bred so specifically for decades. I suspect they would have a significantly weaker immune system compared to your average street cat.
Humans have suffered similar problems in the past, usually it occurs within royal families from too much inbreeding.
A stupid comment.
I am up to date with all vaccines* available to my age group. My children and grandchildren are fully vaccinated. It would be irresponsible to be otherwise.
*The vaccines that I (and my family) have taken have all been fully tested up to 15 years and all comply with the TGA rigorous assessment and approval processes. The experimental Covid-19 vaccine does not meet those requirements, therefore neither I (nor my family) are willing to take it.
[sarc] Yep. And Custer was killed at the Alamo. [/sarc]
That whole conversation went over my head because in 1980s Australia we didn’t ever learn about the USA’s pioneer and pre-modern history, so we never had to memorise anything about the Alamo or General Custer. That’s perhaps a key part of the explanation as to why m0ntifa got the history wrong.
I have to say it’s understandable. If you had only heard of Custer being associated with the Alamo in one second or third-hand conversation in a TV sitcom or Internet meme and never knew the history prior, well you would keep remembering that falsehood as your first introduction to the topic.
Which is all a very protracted excuse for why I had to look up Custer and the Alamo to get the joke.
The Battle of the Alamo (1836) took place before Custer (1839) had been born. His last stand was at the totally separate Battle of Little Bighorn (1876).
m0ntifa may have got Custer confused with David Crockett who was at the Alamo.
m0ntifa may have also got the Little Bighorn battle confused with the Alamo battle since they were both losses by USA forces and so the Alamo was also a “last stand” by Crockett and Co.
I do not see this bit of history as common knowledge at all. Maybe for los Americanos but not us.
We are hiring a car for any of the days we are in the UK. We always do now. Bitter experience has shown us that while it sounds attractive in some circumstances to train it, the trains are unreliable. Even though fully and expensively ticketed, standing all the way from London to Lancaster? Never again.
Figures goofy ideas have been torn apart and ridiculed by many . That said I’ll have no part in nagging the host to silence him. Alot more toxic rhetoric has gone unchanged because ‘tribe’ then his.
All true, which is why he should shut up about things about which he knows very little, apart from the distributed talking points.
On Ann Aly:
I seem to remember that her “expertise” is in the study of the reporting of terrorism in the media.
Her education history from wiki:
So, doesn’t suggest that she’s in any way an expert on terrorism
Been away visiting family in the country – home last night. Finally, some warm, beach weather. Yay!!!
Water was purrfect!
Knock it down!
CL blog.
Youth Advocacy Centre chief executive Katherine Hayes said calls for tougher laws in the wake of Ms Lovell’s death were “understandable” but warned a “knee-jerk” reaction could make matters worse.
Katherine hasn’t had a knife stuck into her chest at her own home.
She should try it and experience the knee-jerk response she gets.
Stupid woman!
Sad. Catherine was a fine German lady. Liked horses.
Catherine the Great: Massie (2012)
Mater at 1.53 pm
Correct. I will never take a doctor’s advice/recommendations seriously again. They lost my trust when they willingly shredded the Hippocratic Oath and submitted to Gov’t diktat.
Au contraire. The better nutrition and ability to self-isolate of the upper classes has always made their rate of infection lower than that of those less fortunate. Nevertheless, in a pandemic, they too were vulnerable, especially due to contact with their servants who were not isolating. Added to that is the fact that good nutrition can only help to a small degree when a new virus hits a population with limited genetic resistance to it from past exposures to related pathogens. Epidemics have curves which weed out the less resistant, for whatever reason, as well those who simply haven’t managed to avoid exposure before a less virulent strain forms under viral evolution and gives them a better deal. Covid has classically done this, as expected. Even now, Covid could mutate up to a more virulent version, rather as it presented in its earliest days, but worse.
Why those first days of ‘lowering the curve’ of Covid infections to stop hospitals being overwhelmed turned into total lockdown rather than isolation of the vulnerable is something many epidemiologists like Jay Bhatticharya (and even me) were putting to question in publication by June 2020. A lot has to do with the fear of a repeat of 1918-22 period, where as Barry analyses (p239, The Great Influenza), an age graph of the dead would look like a W – with a huge ‘spike’ in the young adult ages. In the face of fears of a repeat of this, the medically agreed WHO protocol went out of the window and we followed the Chinese model of authoritarian lockdowns. We did ourselves no favours in this.
Tom says:
December 29, 2022 at 2:19 pm
The Hobart City Council are fairly woke, so only a matter of time before they try to change the name of the town.
Prolly to Greenland
On the trip I couldn’t believe all the local councils adding in some group’s “country” under different council signs.
As an example, on a busy road in Sydney there was one attached underneath of the local council sign promoting their Christmas Carols.
I wasn’t referring to nutrition, isolation or rate of infection. I was specifically referring to genetics.
Same thing applies to rabbits regarding myamitosis which I spoke about already.
Only the pets need the vaccines, the wild ones are basically immune now.
Emmas law. What a horid society we live in.
I’ve never wanted to silence him. I simply want to maintain a level of support opposing him.
Whenever he pops up with his nonsense, then sane people need to say it is nonsense and show support for those who say so. We can’t just rely on the few in the past who have torn his nonsense to shreds. A regular response to it whenever it occurs and gets considerable upticks (as in the last page or so), lets any outsider coming in here (and especially some agent of the State wanting to shut the blog down) see this blog is not anti all sorts of vaccinations, including established ones for children.
If we can’t debate effectively on these matters of science in a rational way, and be seen to be doing so, how can we ever claim our ability to debate effectively on the scientism of the climate change cult?
decent amount of chocolate will kill a dog.
theobromine I believe
Yeah, we’re still trying to work out the magical legislation that will protect women from violent men, without being allowed any form of defensive aid.
Anyone got any ideas on what might level the playing field between a 50kg woman and a 90kg man?
Anyone??
I’m stumped too :/
There is.
Your bizarre frustration that everyone didn’t instantly rally to your side is telling. Shades of old.
Wow. You’re history’s greatest imbecile aren’t you?
What exactly do you think we’ve been arguing Monty?
I’ll help a moron out.
Whether or not the people who died had “the flu” is precisely the point of contention you f****** fool.
I say “no they didn’t they were poisoned”. You say “they had whatever the government tells me they had [ie the flu]”.
My claim is based on evidence. Yours because the government told you. Regardless though, that was the point of contention.
You can’t help yourself can you? Like how Dot is in complete shock to find out that Medieval medicine didn’t have a perfect track record all you can do is say increasingly insane things to dig yourself out of a hole.
Dig up stupid!
You too Dot. And while you’re at it you might check to see how people can be poisoned by substances that can’t (or don’t) replicate. No matter though Dot. You’ll get me on something one day. I can feel it.
children are essentially at zero risk of death from the Spicy Cough
now, continuing the thought experiment, imaging you gave every kiddy an experimental vaccine that turned out to screw their immune systems
…or a dodgy batch of the polio Vax
I love the Bureau of Meteorology.
Looked at the forecast for Newcastle at about 8am this morning as a line of clouds was coming up from the south, and I was thinking of going for a walk. The forecast was 29 C for our fine city.
Here’s the last several hours from my nearest AWS.
29/03:00pm 22.9
29/02:30pm 22.4
29/02:00pm 22.6
29/01:30pm 22.5
29/01:00pm 22.8
29/12:30pm 23.3
29/12:00pm 23.4
29/11:30am 23.7
29/11:00am 23.6
29/10:30am 24.0
29/10:00am 23.1
Only five degrees out is good enough for government work, I suppose. Maybe they should fix the algorithm in their climate model? Couldn’t hurt.
Good old film.
https://archive.org/details/1965spywhocameinfromthecoldthe
Anyone heard of this Burton chap, seems like he can act a bit, might go far.
Yes, so was I. Genetics, as I noted, in operation under factors of evolutionary selection, as is always the case.
I just don’t think that haemophilia is the best example with regard to a genetically developed population immunity to viral diseases amongst the upper classes. Myxo and calci virus resistance in rabbits as you offer later is a much better example of how repeated viral exposure creates an immune population by killing off the most susceptible in any population – a selective mechanism, where resistance and exposure variables are at work as in a population of aristos perhaps allowing a genetic resistance to develop. Haemophilia is a disease of processing blood factor 8 and 9 due to a heritable defective gene carried recessively by females but expressed in male children. Hard to eradicate and can be enhanced by selective breeding, as with Queen Vic’s descendents.
Vaccination isn’t falsifiable and therefore isn’t science. Where do you get the idea of it being a science from?
It’s logically impossible (because it relies on the complete non-existence of natural asymptomatic infection) and every single piece of empirical evidence in its favour is just a self-fulfilling prophecy. But 100 per cent of people who believe in it do so because of authority so that’s why when you demolish the “evidence” people continue to believe just as fervently as before.
Mole – I’ve never read the Spy Who Came In From The Cold but it’s by le Carré who wrote Tinker Tailor.
Superb spy stuff.
You have no evidence, you flog. You are treated as an extremist joke on a forum full of people who are otherwise open to conspiracy theorising. Your theories are too dumb even for them.
BoN
You need to sample the temperature off the tar and at the back of an exhaust pipe.
I think you’ll find knack to the BoM’s magic formula for temperature forecasts.
Furphy. I have never been in favour of vaxxing kids for Covid. Said so often here.
Re polio vax – no vax is perfect, mistakes are rare but can occur. Usually not life-threatening.
However, polio was the scourge of my youth, affecting many of my schoolfriends for life.
Their limbs shrivelled, they wore calipers and limped, and they were the lucky ones.
That was common. Others ended up surviving only in an iron lung, their breathing paralysed.
I had the Salk dead-virus vax plus the much later the better one, the Sabin attenuated live virus vax.
Glad I did. Don’t diss the poliio vax. You don’t know what you are talking about.
Run out of lies Monty? Come on. I reckon you have some more in you. We both know you wouldn’t dare argue on facts and logic.
First you said I claimed it was vaccines for flu. Then you said I claimed they had the flu. Your ability to make shit up is infinite Monty. So why stop?
By the way, you believe in just as many conspiracies as I (and they) do.
Oh and ummm, good luck on getting me to worry about what other people think of me. Nobody ever thought of that tactic with me before.
*sigh*
Immunity 101.
Go away. Read some immunology instead of making things up when you know nothing.
Just because you want something to be so doesn’t make it so.
You are arguing on your own plane, your own set of terms that bear no relationship to reality.