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The Gleaners, Jean-François Millet,1857

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June 29, 2023 12:53 pm

Church celebrates the feast day of Saints Peter & Paul

As early as the year 258, there is evidence of an already lengthy tradition of celebrating the solemnities of both Saint Peter and Saint Paul on the same day. Together, the two saints are the founders of the See of Rome, through their preaching, ministry and martyrdom there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 29, 2023 12:56 pm

“Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
June 29, 2023 at 12:10 pm
When I sounded off about ABC perpetuation of the Russia hoax, the response was ” Sarah would’t allow herself to be misled”. The concept of Sarah being the misleader was sneered at.

Who, pray tell, is Sarah?”

Sarah Ferguson, Mrs Snow Cone, lead gabbler in a three-part ForKorners series on the Gweat Wussia, Wussia, Wussia anti-Trump conspiracy.

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June 29, 2023 12:59 pm

Church celebrates the feast day of Saints Peter and Paul

As early as the year 258, there is evidence of an already lengthy tradition of celebrating the solemnities of both Saint Peter and Saint Paul on the same day. Together, the two saints are the founders of the See of Rome, through their preaching, ministry and martyrdom there.

Gabor
Gabor
June 29, 2023 1:01 pm

Arky says:
June 29, 2023 at 12:33 pm

You excluded the UK.

Technically there was one in 1945 while the Japanese were still fighting.
Churchill lost of course.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 1:09 pm

Abuse in government schools?
Surely the Royal Commission would have uncovered this?

?Allegations of historic child abuse at a Victorian school will be investigated by a special board of inquiry.

The ?inquiry led by Kathleen Foley will hear the testimonies of victim-survivors who attended Beaumaris Primary School in the 1960s and 1970s.

Premier Daniel Andrews, who will formally apologise to the victims, hoped the inquiry would give victim-survivors the recognition and support they deserved.

Dan has Sir Humphried this one.
Heading off bad publicity with a controlled enquiry, ringfencing it to 1970’s Beaumaris.
No leakage to other schools or to the era of modern Liars luminaries like Cain, Kirner, Bracks, Brumby and, most importantly, Dan Xi Man.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 29, 2023 1:11 pm

“In the meantime, Queenslanders, you’re second-class citizens.”

With a third class Stale Guv’ment……………………..

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2023 1:14 pm

Palaszczuk’s response suggests this month’s renaming of Fraser Island has triggered a backlash.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 29, 2023 1:24 pm

Sorry, no ‘toons ’til the buttons are working again.

Aaaaaaaarrrrgh!

Arky
June 29, 2023 1:28 pm

“ Gabor says:
June 29, 2023 at 1:01 pm
Technically there was one in 1945 while the Japanese were still fighting.
Churchill lost of course”
..
That’s a different war.
During which the UK also suspended elections.
So both France and the UK suspended elections for the entirety of WW1, and the UK did not have the election due while it was fighting off the Luftwaffe. In other words, just like the Ukraine, Western countries under threat of, or in the middle of, invasion, OF COURSE suspended elections.

Rabz
June 29, 2023 1:35 pm

Sacré bleu! Those whacky Russians, at it again:

“The “holy fool”, or yoródivy, describes an Eastern Orthodox ascetic figure who displays inanity or feebleness of mind, speaks in riddles and often claims the powers of clairvoyancy.”

Remind anyone of a certain personage? Hint: 32%

Via Quadrant.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 29, 2023 1:40 pm

Stew Peters:

Women are being brainwashed by woke feminist propaganda.
Model and founder of Evie Magazine Brittany Martinez is here to talk about Rolling Stone’s hit piece against authentic womanhood.
Brittany Martinez started Evie Magazine with her husband because of the moral depravity being promoted in hookup culture magazines.
Magazines like Cosmopolitan have given women terrible advice and they are now reaping the consequences in their late 30s and 40s.
Evie Magazine helped expose Covid-19 lies by questioning the vaccine’s effect on menstrual cycles.
Evie Magazine also never supported the Covid lockdowns.
Women have been brainwashed and made to believe they must be in complete control of romantic relationships.
This propaganda has destroyed countless marriages and relationships.
Embracing radical feminist ideologies has led to anti-masculine discrimination.
Evie Magazine works to break through the lies and help women realize being truly feminine is good.
They want women to have actual virtues instead of phony virtue signals.

Traditional Feminine Beauty TRIGGERS Woke Leftists: Rolling Stone Attacks Evie Magazine

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 29, 2023 1:51 pm

“Everyone in the Ticketek lounge has as equal opportunity to get into the site regardless of when they have arrived,” a spokesperson said. “The randomisation starts once the on-sale commences, so there is no advantage for fans to jump on hours before.”

In EquityWorld, extra effort counts for nothing.
Or to put it another way, some people feel entitled to preferential treatment by extra early devotion and sacrifice, whilst others want the chance to jump the queue as long as they have plausible deniability for queue jumping via the randomisation process. One of these schemes incentivizes production and the other does not.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2023 1:52 pm

Arkysays:
June 29, 2023 at 1:28 pm

To be fair, they did create governments of national unity (while jailing a few in WW2) and actually handled swapping ruling parties in WW1 after the initial coalition fractured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_George_ministry#:~:text=Liberal%20David%20Lloyd%20George%20formed,losses%20during%20the%20Great%20War.

Liberal David Lloyd George formed a coalition government in the United Kingdom in December 1916, and was appointed Prime Minister of the United Kingdom by King George V. It replaced the earlier wartime coalition under H. H. Asquith, which had been held responsible for losses during the Great War.

And the yanks werent opposed to jailing some of the troublesome either.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2019/09/22/socialist-who-ran-president-prison-won-nearly-million-votes/
He’d opposed U.S. involvement in World War I, believing the war only benefited arms manufacturers and business interests. In July 1918, while speaking in a Canton, Ohio city park, he denounced the “Junkers of Wall Street” and criticized the government for arresting antiwar activists.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 29, 2023 1:56 pm

Psaki Sneers: ‘I Don’t Spend Much Time On Right-Wing Websites’

The right know what the left are thinking because it is broadcast from all directions – in fact leftists have absolutely no conception that there are situations where you avoid politics (family functions, funerals etc).

The left, on the other hand, refuses to hear what the right thinks, reflexively calling it lies and demanding it be shut down, citing all sorts of imaginary maladies associated with different opinions.

The opinions of the right address those of the left, the left never test theirs. I suppose it is why they are so content to repeat unthinkingly rote talking points – they don’t plan on using their ideas in debate.

Vicki
Vicki
June 29, 2023 2:00 pm

Many thanks to Old Ozzie, who posts excellent information that I would not otherwise have accessed.

Kneel
Kneel
June 29, 2023 2:05 pm

“He is being charged for holding government documents, many classified and some quite critical to USA and other countries defence. He not only held the documents more than a year after being notified of their status he also boasted on tape about having highly classified docs. “

Aside from “whataboutism” (in that Biden had classified docs from when he was a senator, which he should only have been able to view, and then only in a SCIF; or that Hilbillary had an illegal private email server as SecState and destroyed the data on it when it was under subpoena; or that Obama must have known about Hillbillaries private server, because he would have to have authorised putting it in his presidents mobile phone whitelist; and so on, and so on ), it has not been proven that:
1) the documents were classified at the time he allegedly displayed them;
2) that anyone saw them (that is, was able to read them, as opposed to seeing them in his hands).

As to 1), Trump was president when he removed them to Mar-a-Lago, and there is some (legal) question as I understand it that since he at the time had full executive power, his actions in moving them might be construed as an implicit declassification – in much the same way as the president can, after being told that any particular person has no security clearance, simply hand them any document, and that person (and the president) can reasonably be under the presumption that such action means the document is no longer classified. The president has indeed the full executive power to declassify any and all documents and need follow no specified process to do so, and as far as I know, this has never been litigated.

As to 2), there is a significant difference between, say, waving a thick folder around compared to allowing someone to read it; a significant difference between showing them the cover page with a title and author listed or a summary page, compared to allowing them to see every page as long as they like. In these cases, no doubt the prosecution would say the “recipient” “saw” the documents, but did what they see disclose information of national security importance? Do you understand the difference, and how significant that difference is to this particular case? As I understand it, the law he is alleged to have broken requires “intent” to the extent that the person would reasonably have known what they disclosed and to whom they disclosed it would be detrimental to the national security interests of the USA – pretty high bar, as any “intent” based law is, and it is up to the prosecution to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.

Given that the so-called “nuclear secrets” Trump had were simply letters from foreign leaders that spoke of intent, and contained no information that would enable anyone to obtain “nuclear secrets” related to the US or any other country (things like number of warheads, locations, codes etc etc), I am more than a little skeptical that these documents are, or ever were, in any way a danger for Trump to be in possession of, especially given they resided at Mar-a-Lago, where there is as you might imagine for someone of Trump’s wealth and prestige much security, where secret service agents were often present and where a lock was placed on the door to the room where they were kept as required by security people and so on, and so on.
Rather, I suspect that these super-secret, can’t-be-exposed documents are even more poisonous to the deep state, the intelligence community and all of Trump’s political opponents (inc RINOs) than in any way a danger to Trump himself – they likely demonstrate, as the “tapes” suggest, that for example, the “Iran invasion plan” was not Trump’s, and was in fact generated by the Pentagon, by people like Milley, despite the deep state and its media allies saying it was all Trump’s idea, because ‘war monger’ (clearly Trump is a failure as a war monger – he started no new wars while president).

No, given the whole “Russia Collusion” bullshit, the crap that went on with Mike Flynn and others, the impeachment for “quid-pro-quo”, the “leaking” of various parts of documents that made Trump look bad, while hiding anything that would imply the establishment goons were in any way culpable, and all the rest of it, I rather think Trump, while hardly the most personable individual in the world, is likely the “cleanest” and most honest politician in the world at this time. For over seven years, the deep state and the MSM have been trying to pin something – anything – on him. Despite “the walls closing in”, he has yet to be shown as doing anything even improper, let alone illegal. Do you honestly think any other politician would have been able to withstand such intense and hostile scrutiny for seven years and not (to date) been found guilty of any crime whatsoever, or even impeached or criminally charged on such flimsy and dubious “evidence”?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2023 2:08 pm

Heres the mindset farmer Gez is up against.
From the gruiniad comments on a gerbil worming piece…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/28/australia-risks-failing-on-renewable-energy-but-two-steps-could-help-fix-that
eddy19
jeroenspeculaas

Yes, so true … those National voters have been so protective of the earth with their nonstop land clearing, tree felling, water theft, introduced species that trample the earth and leave eroded dust bowls in their wake, and so much more. Wouldn’t want that dead land they destroyed ruined by overhead power lines! Ironically the powerlines would be the only thing left standing after the National voters are finished killing the ground.

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 2:13 pm

nonstop land clearing

LOL! Not anywhere near true!

Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2023 2:28 pm

I’m seeing [1] as well

P
P
June 29, 2023 2:33 pm

All on this page are [1]
Not so with older comments on the previous page.

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 2:38 pm

[1] agrees with [1], [1] and [1].

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 2:39 pm

Hey guys
Munty here and I was just want to apologise for being a Grade-A pervert who promotes sexualising children.

I’m also going to vote PHON, you guys were right all along. Thanks for steering me in the right direction.

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June 29, 2023 2:41 pm

^ ^

Exception is DB who is represented by a person icon:

comment image

Cassie of Sydney
June 29, 2023 2:44 pm

Weird….every commentator is an [i]

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 29, 2023 2:45 pm

Are other people seeing [1] sub. for people’s username or is it just me?

Yes, for everyone else.
But your name appears to me as  . That’s perhaps some special admin outcom which… I should not be seeing!?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 29, 2023 2:48 pm

ICAC corruption report: ‘I’m the boss’, Daryl Maguire told Gladys Berejiklian

A great time to quote Tywin Lannister.
“Any man who must say, I am the king, is no true king.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2kYTf5Zs38

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 3:00 pm

Hi.
Googlery here.
Identifying as a [1].
Dover is a dick!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2023 3:16 pm

So far the new theme is loading quickly. And I see Cats’ names not ones.

I’m doing this comment to test if the OT updates as it should and shows this comment, because the RHS list of thread headers has gone and that was essential for my workaround. Let’s see how this goes…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 3:39 pm

Wut?
Googlery has hacked my account!

sfw
sfw
June 29, 2023 3:41 pm

Dunno about this new look, I don’t really care either way. However the time the comments are posted has disappeared, on my feed anyway. Makes it a little difficult to see where you were before wandering off to earn a living.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2023 3:41 pm

Did not go well…a 524 timeout and a 503 backend fetch failed.

For Dover’s information here’s what Cloudflare says with the 524 timeout:

What happened?
The origin web server timed out responding to this request.

What can I do?
If you’re a visitor of this website:
Please try again in a few minutes.

If you’re the owner of this website:
The connection to the origin web server was made, but the origin web server timed out before responding. The likely cause is an overloaded background task, database or application, stressing the resources on your web server. To resolve, please work with your hosting provider or web development team to free up resources for your database or overloaded application. Additional troubleshooting information here.

I’ve included the link they give for additional info.

duncanm
duncanm
June 29, 2023 3:43 pm

Holy theme change, Batman!

I like the new look.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 3:44 pm

And so the Dover Cat would appear to be spluttering back into life after an attractive facelift that separates it from the rest of the online trailer trash.

Oh happy day! (Fingers crossed).

duncanm
duncanm
June 29, 2023 3:45 pm

What a surprise – another government funded boondoggle (the Sydney Biennale) just sent me an email promoting da Voice.

Waiting for their message to pop up on twitter so I can give it a what-for.

If you’re on farcebook, you can start there.

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 3:47 pm

“Any man who must say, I am the king, is no true king.”

The lion doesn’t concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 3:48 pm

Still loading at light speed at the Deakin telephone exchange.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 3:48 pm

Oh miserable day! There are still no style/formatting buttons — and posts still take an age to load.

Stick at it, Doverlord.

The ox is slow, but the earth is patient.

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 3:49 pm

The accused carjacker taunted police on social media after he was bailed.

Did he call them Granny Killers?

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 29, 2023 3:49 pm

Lots of number ones. But no number 2s. What an anally retentive lot we are.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 29, 2023 3:50 pm

Ukraine & Russia Coup

“Kiev’s Great Offensive has been unimpressive, to say the least. Ukrainian Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov has claimed that he has yet to deploy the bulk of its Western-trained forces he keeps in reserve for this much-touted counteroffensive against Russian forces. They have only been able to capture a few small villages quite some distance from the major Russian defensive lines. The notorious Neocon, Lindsey Graham, says the counteroffensive is moving slowly but steadily.

Reznikov boasts, “When it [the major push] happens, you will all see it… Everyone will see everything.” These are supposed to be the main troop reserves, including most of the brigades trained in the West and armed with NATO-supplied tanks and armored vehicles. Reznikov also commented on the failed revolt by the Wagner private military company in Russia. He insisted that it was a “vivid illustration” of Moscow’s vulnerabilities.

The American Neocons were against Reagan even talking with Gorbachev. George Herbert Walker Bush, back in 1992, proclaimed the fall of the USSR and Communism would usher in the era of the peace dividend. The Neocons fight tooth & nail against any peace accord with anyone. Even the existence of NATO was being called into question once Communism fell, and with it, the Khruschev doctrine of spreading communism to overthrow capitalism. That seems to have made the Neocons’ blood boil, but they have adopted the same policy and believe that they now have the right to assassinate foreign leaders, overthrow dictators, and destroy both Russia and China to spread their view of Capitalism to the world which is still authoritarian since they impose their doctrines that the Western people are never allowed to vote on.

Nevertheless, the Western press has been so indoctrinated by the Neocons using the standard demonization of a leader to create hatred of everyone in that target country or like Hillary did to everyone who voted for Trump, calling them the “deplorable” thereby demonizing 50% of the nation. The Ukrainians were static, watching with joy as Russia, they were told, was on the verge of a Civil War. They had hoped that Yevgeny Prigozhin’s march on Moscow would not just end the war but overthrow Vladimir Putin’s regime. They have lied so much demonizing Putin that they themselves seemed to believe their own propaganda that replace Putin, and there would be peace, and Russia would crumble into dust.

Alas, the insurrection proved short-lived, for 75% of Prigozhin’s army did not follow him. This great counteroffensive that began on June 4th has shown little sign of breaking through Russian lines in force any time soon. This has called into question Reznikov’s claims, for at the same time, some Western officials are suddenly becoming very nervous and want to talk about peace. Zelensky exploited the event to further his propaganda calling it a “happy day” after visiting the front lines on June 26th.

The question is whether the events in Russia will have longer-lasting effects on the battlefield and this RIFT I have been writing about for money where the Russian Military has been divided and felt that Putin had their hands tied with this “special operation” only to protect the Donbas and not to invade Ukraine proper. Those in the Military see it as a losing strategy, just like the US failed in Vietnam for the same reason – not bombing the North.

Some fear that the Wagner Group might try to cut off the military supplies coming from Poland. Others see that moving to Belarus would allow them to invade and take Kiev. What is clear is that many of Wagner’s forces have joined the Russian Military and returned to Ukraine. Others, including the 2,500 to 5,000 troops who played a role in the mutiny, may join Mr. Prigozhin in Belarus, which concerns NATO.

Alexander Lukashenko offered the Wagner troops the use of an abandoned military camp. There is no question that these are professional troops who could be used on missions that the Russian Military does not formally sanction. That all depends on the relations with Moscow. The propaganda has no doubt caused much confusion on both sides. Prigozhin now insists that he was never out to topple Mr Putin. Indeed, it was unlikely that he could have ever done that for he would have been annihilated.

The impact on Russia’s high command raised by this insurrection is much more significant. The divisions and intrigues inside Russia’s leadership have been apparent for months. General Sergei Surovikin, the commander of Russian forces in Ukraine between October and January, had prior knowledge of the rebellion as did many others. This was no surprise and even came on time with our model’s forecast. Prigozhin, it was claimed, had intended to kidnap Sergei Shoigu, the defense minister, and General Valery Gerasimov when they visited the Ukraine border. That was well known. So this “coup” was certainly no secret.

Because Ukraine is making slower progress than the American Neocons and European officials had hoped, there are some calling for peace talks fearing that Russia will become much more aggressive after this coup. Ukrain’s casualties are enormous and over 8 million people have fled Ukraine resulting in a dwindling population even to draft people from. Assuming that Ukraine has yet to commit the majority of its new Western-equipped brigades to the battlefront, any attack against well-defended Russian positions, including minefields, has only exposed Ukraine’s troops with limited NATO training and is still no match for seasoned troops. That is a lesson that is as old as the Roman Empire.

Ukrainian commanders are suffering with significantly depleted forces, while the American Neocons wanted shock & awe for video clips on CNN. The Art of War is a great instruction. Pretend to be weak when you are strong. Things may not be what they appear – that is the lesson of war. The West reported this as if it was a real coup. They never had the army necessary to overthrow Putin or invade Moscow. Was this all a show to also appear weak and get the Ukrainians all excited, thinking they had just won?”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/ukraine-russia-coup/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 29, 2023 3:53 pm

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DrBeauGan
June 29, 2023 4:02 pm

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sfw
sfw
June 29, 2023 4:02 pm

Times of comments have appeared on my feed now.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 4:03 pm

Loading-time problem solved — the Cat’s now as fast as a $20 hooker. Well done, Doverlord!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 29, 2023 4:06 pm

Loading-time problem solved — the Cat’s now as fast as a $20 hooker. Well done, Doverlord!

Hmmm. The question is, when do we get the toons back.

JMH
JMH
June 29, 2023 4:09 pm

Trial run.

shatterzzz
June 29, 2023 4:10 pm

Thinkin’ on this “high profile” drug dealer topped in Bondi yesterday ..! Plod are the ones who called him “HP” & druggie yet here was a bloke who was sentenced to 16 years for drug dealing in 2011, didn’t have a job, drove a very expensive set o’ wheels and lived in an upmarket Bondi penthouse in 2023 .. sooo he must have been on parole to be out and about in 2023 ……..
bur no one (in authority) considered him worth keeping an eye on ……?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2023 4:10 pm

A couple of things on this sharticle on their ABccess.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-29/royal-family-expenses-revealed-king-charles-lowers-heating/102541280
King Charles turns down heating to save emissions, royal family spent $3m on Queen’s funeral, report shows

Which doesnt match up to this story very well.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/05/revealed-royals-took-more-than-1bn-income-from-controversial-estates-king-charles-queen-duchies-cornwall-lancaster

….
Pomgolia is 20% foreign now.
The report said the proportion of ethnic minority employees had stayed at 9.7 per cent, missing its target of reaching 10 per cent by the end of 2022.

It has set a new target of 14 per cent by 2025. About 18 per cent of the population of England and Wales belong to an ethnic group, according to government data.

Whats the bet pale people of EU extraction arent included as “minorities’?

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 4:17 pm

Hmmm. The question is, when do we get the toons back.

We need the formatting buttons for that, Beaugy.

I’m sad you didn’t recognise the wisdom of the great football oracle, Mick Malthouse:

The ox is slow, but the earth is patient.

His Doverlordship is working on the loaves and fishes miracle as we speak!

calli
calli
June 29, 2023 4:21 pm

This place looks…svelte.

A new, trim look reflecting the cost of living “crisis”.

I’ll do a couple of travelogues about my adventures in Cornwall and Devon when the problems are solved and comment space is restored.

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 4:23 pm

Wow looks nice and 2023 in here.

Imagine that, 2023, and the USA still hasn’t had a coloured First Lady…

calli
calli
June 29, 2023 4:25 pm

Yikes! Point size just increased along with my waistline! Good luck with the re-boot, I’m off to Lyme Regis today to look at fossils.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 29, 2023 4:33 pm

Poor Gladys is probably more fool than knave; I still can’t understand how she could fall for a two-bit spiv.

But I really feel for her for another reason. She, like Greiner and O’Farrell, has been forced into resigning. In Melbourne, when the toothless IBAC tiger finally tries to assert itself, the response from Andrews is ‘Thank you for this educational report’, followed by a smirk and the two fingers.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 29, 2023 4:33 pm

Almost didn’t recognise the site.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 29, 2023 4:36 pm

Just catching up on the changes, and the earlier problems therewith.

Slept through it all, the afternoon “Grandpa nap” has some value (apart from refreshing the body).

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 29, 2023 4:37 pm

Just about every report on the insatiable demands of the childcare industry features ‘Georgie Dent, executive director of advocacy group The Parenthood’. Who or what The Parenthood is, they never say” who are its leaders, members, backers?. Dent herself seems to be a woke social engineer who wants to make it criminal child abuse for biological parents to spend more than twenty minutes a day in the company of their children.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 29, 2023 4:39 pm

Gillard, McClellan and Milligan still unavailable for comment on the Dawson case and Strike Force Southwood?

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 29, 2023 4:41 pm

Seeing if we can now post video clips – the immortal Brian Ferry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1CMCtV4to

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 4:41 pm

Opinion

Nothing criminal about Berejiklian failing to dob in her boyfriend

The former premier won’t be going to jail, or even to court. But the wait she endured was criminal.

Michael Pelly – Legal editor

So, that’s it. After nearly three years – during which time Gladys Berejiklian has well and truly moved on – the only “serious” finding against the former premier is that she failed to dob in her former boyfriend.

She won’t be going to jail, or even to court. As the Independent Commission Against Corruption said, there was a “substantial breach of the ministerial code” but it was “not so serious as to merit criminal punishment”.

In fact, the only thing that is criminal about this whole episode is the delay.

Berejiklian should still have to explain why her notion of “acting at times with integrity” didn’t gel with the ICAC.

That’s the part that is serious; she let down her colleagues by not telling them about her relationship with Daryl Maguire, who is facing court and jail. And that she breached the public trust by helping Maguire get cash for his pet projects.

But as the ICAC said, it “was not so serious as to merit criminal punishment (an element of the offence of misconduct in public office) and therefore does not reach the very high bar required to make out this element of the offence of misconduct in public office”.

It would likely have been serious enough to make it untenable for Berejiklian to continue in politics. Some might think it makes her job at Optus problematic, given it involves dealing with governments.

The findings
According to ICAC, Gladys Berejiklian:

. Breached public trust in 2016 and 2017 by using her position to shore up a $5.5 million grant to the Australian Clay Target Association in Daryl Maguire’s electorate, without disclosing their relationship.
. Breached public trust in 2018 by using her position to advance a decision to grant up to $30 million in funding to the Riverina Conservatorium of Music, also in Maguire’s electorate, without disclosing their relationship. Only $10 million was paid.
. Engaged in serious corrupt conduct by not notifying ICAC of her suspicion that Maguire had engaged in activities which concerned, or might have concerned, corrupt conduct.

According to ICAC, Daryl Maguire:

. Improperly used his position in parliament to to advance his own financial interests in running a cash-for-visa immigration scheme.
. Monetised his position as a member of parliament by improperly using his office and resources to benefit G8way International – a company of which he was “in substance a director,” and had arranged to receive profits from.
. Sought money for introducing the party secretary of Liaoning Province and the Liaoning delegation to meet then-premier Barry O’Farrell in 2012.
. Failed to disclose his interest in G8way International to NSW parliament.
. Misused his position as a member of parliament to advance his own private financial interests in connection with the sale and development of land in NSW.
. Attempted to thwart the potential appointment of persons to Independent Hearing and Assessment Panels.

‘Duty to notify’

The report notes the former premier had a duty under section 11 of the ICAC Act “to notify the Commission of her suspicion that Mr Maguire had engaged in activities which concerned, or might have concerned, corrupt conduct”.

“At the time Ms Berejiklian failed to report her suspicions to the Commission, she was the premier of the state.”

The ICAC even said that “to conceal conduct she suspected concerned, or might have concerned, corrupt conduct … both to protect herself and him from the Commission exercising its investigative powers was grave misconduct.

“It undermined the high standards of probity that are sought to be achieved by the ministerial code which, as premier, Ms Berejiklian substantially administered.”

ICAC said the findings were “not so serious as to merit criminal punishment”.

Under the ICAC Act, a “substantial breach” of the code – if done “knowingly” – can give rise to a finding of corrupt conduct.

After that, it is up to the Director of Public Prosecutions whether charges are laid for “misconduct in public office” – the common law offence under which corrupt former Labor ministers (and ICAC frequent flyers) Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald were jailed.

The ICAC decided the “knowingly” threshhold was crossed – and the public trust breached – when Berejiklian failed to reveal the relationship in the funding process for Maguire projects: a clay target club in 2016-17 and a music hall in 2018. And when she failed to tell ICAC about her suspicions about Maguire. But not sufficiently to even bother the DPP with a reference.

Unacceptable delay

A threshold that was definitely crossed was the time it took to complete the report.

Even if there were no complaints about how Commissioner Ruth McColl handled the inquiry, it’s absolutely unacceptable that anyone – let along a sitting premier – should have to wait two years and eight months after they give evidence to get a finding.

Berejiklian was gutted when she had to resign. But now she has a new job, a new boyfriend – her ICAC counsel Arthur Moses, SC – and is out of politics.

And even if ICAC reckons she was “seriously corrupt”, the law says that’s not a crime.

Michael Pelly is the legal editor, based in our Sydney newsroom. He has been a senior adviser to federal and state attorneys-general and written two books, one a biography of former High Court Chief Justice Murray Gleeson.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 4:42 pm

Site Bit Suss under Firefox – had to change to Chrome

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 29, 2023 4:43 pm

Yes!

BTW, my email and name are not sticking in the “Fill in your details” section despite the box “Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment” being checked.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 29, 2023 4:44 pm

Checking to see if name and email stick in Safari – didn’t in Chrome

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 29, 2023 4:45 pm

Nope – won’t stick in either….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2023 4:51 pm

How can people be lured into my links of quality* if they can see the youtube before they click?
Is this the end of my attempts to uncalculate this blog with quality* content?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNFokmDKrE

*I didnt say good quality.

m0nty
m0nty
June 29, 2023 4:52 pm

I hate change.

Cassie of Sydney
June 29, 2023 4:52 pm

Gosh, is this format permanent?

It’ll take some getting used to!

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 29, 2023 4:53 pm

This place looks & feels like the inside of an Audi.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 29, 2023 4:53 pm

The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.

– George Orwell

m0nty
m0nty
June 29, 2023 4:56 pm

I see the socials are filled with pro-Western trolls grousing about Russian troop morale. None of it particularly subtle. Doubt it will work, but at least they’re having fun.

Remarkable lack of news about.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 4:57 pm

Speaking of Idiots in Australia!

Doubts mount over gas exclusion from firming power underwrite scheme

Angela Macdonald-Smith – Senior resources writer

Labor’s reworked underwriting scheme for electricity firming power is facing fresh doubts over whether it can provide a fix for the transitioning grid as renewable power expands and baseload coal generators close.

The scheme’s exclusion of gas power, confirmed by Energy Minister Chris Bowen on Thursday, leaves it heavy reliant on batteries, pumped hydro and other emerging zero-emissions technologies to fill in the gaps between weather-dependent wind and solar power.

“It has to be renewable, it has to be dispatchable, ie, it can be called upon when the grid needs it,” Mr Bowen said in Sydney, noting the scheme would more than double the size of a NSW tender for firming capacity now under way.

Mr Bowen said the combined state and federal schemes would deliver 930 megawatts of capacity, and “eliminate” a forecast shortfall in power supply in 2028 that has been flagged by the Australian Energy Market Operator. The first capacity under the system should be rolled out in 2025, he said.

But while the details of how the scheme will work have yet to be announced, some industry insiders say they are yet to be convinced it will be effective at keeping the lights on, especially with major generators such as Origin Energy’s 2880 megawatt NSW plant due to retire in coming years.

The peak body for the energy supply industry said it remained “unclear” as to what role the scheme was intended to play.

“As coal plant continues to leave the market additional firming capacity will become vital to ensuring grid reliability,” said Ben Barnes, general manager corporate affairs and retail at the Australian Energy Council.

“We look forward to engagement with the design work to ensure the scheme can meet the government’s objectives. We also need to consider how to best manage the exit timing of this coal plant.”

Grattan Institute energy program director Tony Wood said the assertion from the governments that the scheme would eliminate the forecast shortfall in NSW was “a big claim”.

He said he remained doubtful about the scheme’s design, noting that the joint statement from Mr Bowen and NSW Energy Minister Penny Sharpe focused on megawatts of capacity the scheme would support and made no note of actual megawatt-hours of generation.

“If you are talking about 930 megawatts, when is it going to be available, on what days, for how long,” he said, noting batteries needed to constantly discharge and be recharged to be economic, and so could not be guaranteed to be available to relieve the reliability shortfall at any particular time in 2028-29.

Mr Wood also raised doubts whether the even more recent, longer-lasting batteries would be able to supply enough power to do the job of gas power over an extended period.

“Most people who talk about deep storage they are talking about four, six, eight hours, they are not talking about four, six, eight days,” he said.

But Schneider Electric senior director Lisa Zembrodt said she believed the scheme would be effective, citing the complementary nature of batteries to renewables and the cost-effectiveness of including demand response as a way of handling the transition in the energy system.

“Looking at the underlying costs of new gas generation, batteries are an effective alternative, particularly when combined with demand response or other energy management measures or technology,” she said.

“We do believe batteries and pumped hydro can provide the long-duration storage needs assuming coal closures proceed as planned.”

Ms Zembrodt said excluding gas from the scheme was “not a bad thing”, pointing to the harm that a reliance on gas and coal had done to the energy market over the past 18 months as prices surged.

Still, energy industry chief executives have also cast doubt on the effectiveness of a capacity scheme that excludes gas power.

Speaking at a conference last week in Melbourne, Origin Energy chief executive Frank Calabria called for “honesty” in the discussion with the public about the need for new gas plants to meet peak electricity demand.

“A functioning capacity mechanism is critical to encouraging the necessary investment in new firming supply,” Mr Calabria said. “We must be honest with the community that we simply cannot ensure reliable power supply without building new gas peakers.”

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 4:58 pm

So rumours are that the trans lobby want Michelle Obama to run but to “come out” and show his real self… they are upset she’s thinking of running as “Michelle”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 5:03 pm

Kiwi Jaguar EV owners told to park cars outside due to fire risk

Jaguar Land Rover’s New Zealand arm has confirmed that it will be recalling all locally owned examples of its fully electric I-Pace over fire risk concerns, with owners told that they should “park away from structures where possible and charge the vehicle outside”.

The recall notice echoes similar recalls for the plug-in SUV overseas, with the British marque also recommending that I-Pace owners refrain from charging their vehicles beyond 75% until the recall has been completed.

A statement provided to Stuff by a Jaguar Land Rover New Zealand representative noted that the issue stems from the model’s main battery, with the subsequent repairs involving “an update to the Battery Energy Control Module software” and, in some cases, the installation of an all-new battery pack.

Whilst Jaguar has been hesitant to delve further into what has caused these “thermal overload” issues, it has been widely reported overseas that the I-Pace uses LG-sourced batteries similar to those found in the Hyundai Kona Electric and Chevrolet Bolt – both of which have also been subject to comprehensive fire risk recall campaigns.

“Until the recall has been completed, clients should park away from structures where possible and charge the vehicle outside,” it added.

“As an extra precaution, we would recommend avoid [sic] fully charging; no more than 75% until the recall is completed. For further advice, or if any customer is concerned, they are encouraged to contact their local Jaguar Land Rover dealership.”

There have been eight confirmed I-Pace fires in the United States, including numerous cases of vehicles burning to the ground.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 5:04 pm

I hate change.

As if you had to guess, the troll is attempting wit by pretending he’s a reactionary, just like those .he thinks he has come to taunt because his own blog is a lonely, unloved, unvisited wasteland. So needy.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 29, 2023 5:06 pm


We need the formatting buttons for that, Beaugy.

Not really. All the buttons do is spit out some standard html. You could write the stuff into a text file and copy and paste it.

Don’t tell me you can’t write html. Dot can, I can, so anyone can master it in twenty minutes. It’s designed so children can do it!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2023 5:07 pm

Not sure that embedding YT vids is a good idea. I recall that slowed things down a lot on the old Cat.

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 5:09 pm

Trying again to post CL’s attitude when he sees new blog:

https://youtu.be/YiUGDE6b8oY

(All in good fun CL) 😛

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
June 29, 2023 5:11 pm

very white supreme pizza background you got going here, try adding some pineapple

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 5:13 pm

BIDEN: PUTIN LOSING THE IRAQ WAR! (UPDATED)

Given that most leading Democrats thought the Iraq War was the Vietnam War back in the aughts, I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that (P)resident Biden thinks Russia is “losing the war in Iraq.” Behold his mid-day comments today (below), when he is supposed to be at his sharpest.

For what it’s worth, last night I grilled what I called “Iraq of lamb.”

UPDATE: Biden got better as the day wore on.

BIDEN: “It was inappropriate for Barack to spend time with [Xi Jinping] but I spent a lot of time with him. I met alone with him, just he and I… 68 times, 68 hours, 68 times — more than 68 hours — by the way, I turned in all my notes.”

Serious question: Can he finish the day?

Nope:

Have you ever heard someone so eloquent?

The Beer Whisperer
The Beer Whisperer
June 29, 2023 5:13 pm

Melbourne, when the toothless IBAC tiger finally tries to assert itself, the response from Andrews is ‘Thank you for this educational report’, followed by a smirk and the two fingers.

And an entry for each person who dared criticise him in a book for the first purge.

cohenite
June 29, 2023 5:13 pm

Tucker’s new comment on why the demorats are sticking with the walking corpse biden: they’ll cheat, has already clocked in over 12 million views:

https://twitter.com/MrWickwire/status/1673867260597882880

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 29, 2023 5:14 pm

Test.

dover0beach
June 29, 2023 5:14 pm

Going to wait for the database issues to be resolved and then look into another theme. I do have one in mind in which quicktags plugin works but when I used it on the live site those damned [1] reappeared.

Sorry but I’m just going to leave it as is this evening and work on it in the morning. Would you believe it but I’ve had problems commenting on the site myself. Am out this evening but will check on it when I can.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 29, 2023 5:14 pm

I” hate change.”

Well, I hope that MontyPox Virus at least changes his underwear and socks on a daily basis…………………………….

JC
JC
June 29, 2023 5:19 pm

WTF

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 5:20 pm

Daniel Johnson

Am I Tired of London—or of Life?

A longtime resident reflects on the post-pandemic city.

Dr. Samuel Johnson remarked that when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life. Unexpectedly, his words now resonate with me more strongly than ever before: Am I really tired of London, and, if so, am I tired of life?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 5:21 pm

 feelthebern says:

June 29, 2023 at 4:53 pm

This place looks & feels like the inside of an Audi.

You mean the buttons falling off?

cohenite
June 29, 2023 5:21 pm

Stop complaining head prefect or I’ll put up some cute owls.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2023 5:22 pm

Uh.

I appear to have walked into the wrong house. The decor’s different.

All the naked people are familiar, though.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 5:23 pm

Don’t stress DB.
It’s annoying m0nster, so not all bad.

Barry
Barry
June 29, 2023 5:23 pm

Site loads really fast on Firefox. Seems much more snappy than the old. Feels like a white plastic stacking chair instead of the comfortable leather armchair that was the old – but it will no doubt grow on me. Kudos for maintaining this here fine blog.

dover0beach
June 29, 2023 5:25 pm

So long as it works at the moment, all good.

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 5:26 pm

John Ruddick’s maiden speech was brilliant.

Love him or hate him; listen.

John Ruddick MLC – Inaugural Speech – NSW Parliament

WolfmanOz
June 29, 2023 5:27 pm

Love the look and feel of the upgraded site Dover – like so many here I greatly appreciate your efforts.

There’s always teething issues with such things but it all looks clean and fresh.

I had a quick look at the creating/editing posts and it seems to be fine i.e. I’ve got my next post for next week at draft stage and all looks OK.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 29, 2023 5:29 pm

Hmm. Hmmmm. Dunnooooo.
Does this new WP theme make my avatar look fat?

😀

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 5:30 pm

Don’t tell me you can’t write html. Dot can, I can, so anyone can master it in twenty minutes. It’s designed so children can do it!

Here’s an example of how to code links.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2023 5:30 pm

You mean I have do this sort of thing manually now?

The horror. The horror.

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 5:30 pm
Roger
Roger
June 29, 2023 5:31 pm

“Mr Bowen said the combined state and federal schemes would deliver 930 megawatts of capacity, and “eliminate” a forecast shortfall in power supply in 2028.”

Leaving aside NSW & VIC, which are going to be in a worse state, AEMO says QLD will be experiencing “reliability gaps” (is that the new euphemism for blackouts?) by 2027. Three large wind projects in the state have been reduced in size or paused altogether because of environmental or grid connection problems. And the former head of the state owned body that builds and maintains the grid has warned that two new pumped hydro schemes which are meant to supply “firming” supply when sun and wind don’t turn up are being built too far away from the load centres in SEQ, will be too expensive and will have reliability issues because of the distances involved and cost saving measures being implemented. If Bowen is still energy minister in 2028 he’s goling to have some explaining to do…I expect that moment will actually come much quicker than that.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 29, 2023 5:36 pm
Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 5:37 pm

I’m bewildered why Jim Chalmers thinks the Federal Budget is in such great shape. His minions forecast a questionable 4 bn AUD surplus. Revenue will take a hit with tax returns. If it proves anything (dollar lower, commodities lower or flat) it means fiscal drag has worked. The debtor wins with inflation and nominal taxes paid have grown. The inflation is an implicit tax everyone pays like a poll tax; purchasing power is decreased to fund the fiscal drag (along with bracket creep).

I’ll believe budget surpluses (amongst other things) when we have them on camera or the hunter donates a corpse to science.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 5:37 pm

CORRUPTION

DOJ Rot Goes So Much Deeper Than Merrick Garland

If agencies are so powerful that their work to protect political allies and topple their challengers continues unabated by the electoral process, then we are not a functioning republic.

Following the sensational whistleblower testimony that dropped Thursday, revealing how the Department of Justice systematically blocked an IRS investigation into Joe Biden’s son Hunter and diverted agents from examining the incriminating evidence against his presidential father, House Republicans are threatening the overdue impeachment of Attorney General Merrick Garland — except most of the pro-Biden interference in the DOJ happened before Garland was installed, while President Donald Trump was still in office.

Does Garland still deserve impeachment for his assortment of abuses, such as sitting on his hands to avoid real accountability for the younger Biden (and his pop), while weaponizing the country’s top law enforcement agency to try to send Biden’s top presidential challenger to federal prison? Absolutely.

Is it smart politically for Kevin McCarthy to use the current momentum to hold Garland to account? Probably. Is the alleged involvement in a foreign bribery scheme enough to merit Biden’s own impeachment? Most definitely.

But if the blame — and punishment — for the DOJ corruption revealed by whistleblowers stops with Merrick Garland or even Joe Biden, it will happen again.

That’s because the Justice Department’s pattern of shielding the Biden family from the law wasn’t masterminded by either man.

It happened because of career officials and bureaucrats, whose names most Americans don’t know, and whom Americans will never have the chance to vote out. They didn’t have to be told what to do.

According to whistleblower Gary Shapley, it was in late 2019, a year before Joe Biden was elected, that the FBI acquired and authenticated the infamous laptop Hunter Biden left at a Delaware computer repair shop. The IRS began an investigation into likely tax crimes almost immediately.

Between April and June 2020, when IRS agents were preparing to execute interviews and search warrants, it was “career DOJ officials,” Shapley said, who “purposely slow-walk[ed] investigative actions.”

After IRS agents discovered a WhatsApp message in which Hunter Biden purportedly threatened a Chinese business associate that “I am sitting here with my father” and that the Bidens could “hold a grudge” if a “commitment made” to them was not “fulfilled,” federal prosecutors rejected IRS efforts to look into the messages. That was around August 2020, when Trump had nearly half a year left in the White House.

In October 2020, Assistant U.S. Attorney Lesley Wolf acknowledged “probable cause had been achieved” for executing a search warrant on Hunter Biden but still refused to allow a search. In the meantime, the DOJ continued to block IRS investigators from accessing the laptop and openly cited the investigation’s potential to hurt Biden’s electoral chances as their reason for slow-walking it.

Wolf would also order IRS investigators not to ask about “dad” or about an email stating there would be “Ten held by H for the big guy.” That happened in December, more than a month before Biden’s inauguration.

That same month, IRS and FBI investigators planned to seek a consent search of Hunter Biden’s residence and interviews with Hunter and his associates, since the search warrant had been rejected. “FBI headquarters,” Shapley said, apparently notified the transition team of the plan, a move which “tipped off” the Bidens’ inner circle. Of the 12 interviews investigators sought, they got one.

All of that happened under Trump and his attorney general, William Barr. That’s not to make the absurd suggestion that it happened at Trump or Barr’s direction. Rather, it shows how monstrous the triple-letter leviathan and its grip on our political process are. The regime, the deep state, the bureaucracy, whatever you want to call it: Shapley’s testimony shows their ability to manipulate political outcomes is so entrenched that their own elected overseers are powerless to stop it.

Unsurprisingly, as Shapley noted, “This same sort of unprecedented behavior continued through” Joe Biden’s first year in the White House.

When IRS agents finally sent their recommended charges against Hunter Biden to the DOJ, the agency — by then under Attorney General Merrick Garland — opposed the recommendation. Based on the deal offered to Hunter Biden last week, we know the DOJ dropped most of the charges. Shapley also testified that he has been subject to retaliation from the DOJ since speaking out.

Before the investigation into Hunter Biden was even opened, the Russia-collusion hoax orchestrated against then-candidate Trump in 2016 offered more evidence of rank-and-file DOJ corruption, such as Peter Strzok and Lisa Page‘s conversation about their plan to “stop” Trump from becoming president.

While that op occurred under a Democrat president, it relied on individual hacks in Justice Department cubicles, not just on Obama-appointed political operatives like then-FBI Director James Comey.

The problem of a bureaucracy so bloated that the people’s elected servants in Congress and the White House can’t keep track of, let alone shut down, its mischief is not unique to the DOJ.

But the Justice Department’s role as arbiter of how — or to whom — the law applies makes its rule-by-pencil-pusher especially dangerous.

Electing the right president or appointing the right attorney general will only help with that insofar as he can root out the career rot in the 115,000-employee DOJ.

As the Gary Shapleys get pushed out, the integrity they bring to agencies like the DOJ and IRS will go with them.

And while corruption in the vastly left-leaning bureaucracy almost always benefits Democrats, the problem goes beyond partisan politics.

If government agencies are so powerful that their work to protect political allies and topple their challengers continues unabated by the electoral process, then elections are no real transfer of power and we are not a functioning republic.

That’s not just having a bad apple for an attorney general. That is a crisis of governance.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2023 5:38 pm

very white supreme pizza background you got going here, try adding some pineapple

Nah, two days too late. International Pineapple Day was on Tuesday. I kid you not.

Happy international pineapple day! (27 Jun)

cohenite
June 29, 2023 5:39 pm

” If Bowen is still energy minister in 2028 he’s goling to have some explaining to do…I expect that moment will actually come much quicker than that.”

If turtle is still energy minister we’ll be living in caves. Turtle should be plugged in to a power point now. This creep is going to destroy us.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2023 5:42 pm

Geez. Now the comment box disappeared for a bit.

Test.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 5:42 pm

Dr Beaugan, you’ve a little more time to wait for the return of cartoons. Dover has knocked off for the day so there’ll be no ‘toons tomorrow.

I know you think anyone could do it, but you’re cleverer that me. I’ll wait for the formatting buttons to be restored because I couldn’t be bothered doing the HTML forrmatting manually.

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 5:46 pm

Can you do the quote thing here?

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 5:49 pm

Just logging into wordpress to save my name and details to see if it works…

Crossie
Crossie
June 29, 2023 5:50 pm

In a statement announcing the new policy in the Swedish Parliament, Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson warned that the Scandinavian nation needs “a stable energy system.”

————–

Ironic but not unexpected that Sweden would provide leadership on energy to Europe and the world. They exhibited their logical nature when they did not lock down for COVID. I hope the world follows their lead and that we are not the last ones to do so.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 29, 2023 5:50 pm

Sharri interviewing the Snake Matt Kean. I despair.

jupes
jupes
June 29, 2023 5:51 pm

Where am I?

Dot
Dot
June 29, 2023 5:52 pm

Yes.

Less than blockquote greater than insert text less than forward slash blockquote greater than.

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_quotation_elements.asp

Try here to see if it works:

https://www.programiz.com/html/online-compiler/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 5:52 pm

I predict an evening of frustrated, 10 pound Pom level whingeing.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2023 5:55 pm

DrGB,Since I’m not a child I’m having problems. I’ve got enough to do without learning to code. I’m too old to retrain for another job. I’ve got a couple of things I’d like to get off the ground but I’m enjoying landscaping too much. Renovations are coming along fine as well.

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 5:56 pm

<blockquote cite=Try here to see if it works.

Well?……

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2023 5:57 pm

I predict an evening of frustrated, 10 pound Pom level whingeing.

Innit guvnor?

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 5:57 pm

<blockquote cite=Try here to see if it works.

Well?…..x2

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 5:59 pm

well?

Well? x3

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 5:59 pm

Well? x 3

YAAAAAYYYYY!!!!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2023 6:00 pm

Munty is so lazy he brought a mechanical masterbator, it pulled itself to bits.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2023 6:02 pm

Well, well, well. 3 holes in the ground.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2023 6:02 pm

The Hun:

The boss of Victoria’s powerful sparkies’ union has warned work on Victoria’s major infrastructure projects will come to an abrupt halt if the Andrews government bans duck hunting.

Electrical Trades Union state secretary Troy Gray fronted a parliamentary committee into the future of native bird shooting on Thursday where he threatened to run a multimillion-dollar campaign, citing his membership’s “unprecedented” support for the controversial practice.

Outstanding.

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2023 6:02 pm

“Dover has knocked off for the day so there’ll be no ‘toons tomorrow.”

Amd once again, my thanks to dover for his swift attention to the blog’s woes.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 29, 2023 6:02 pm
Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:02 pm

Tries something a bit harder:

Company
Contact
Country

Ed Case
Munted
Numbers

Moron
More moron
Dead?

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:03 pm

Oh well that was a fail but, hey, GrayRanga… you seem to be picking it up faster than me LOL! 😛

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2023 6:04 pm

Watching a doco on the 1944 Battle of the Bulge on the Hitler Channel.

Strange. Not a trans person in sight.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2023 6:04 pm

How do you know when a BAflight arrives? The whining doesn’t stop when they turn off the engines.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 29, 2023 6:05 pm

Not sure that embedding YT vids is a good idea. I recall that slowed things down a lot on the old Cat.

Not so. I was one who thought it would, but the effect on the load time was minimal.

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:05 pm

Testies

Testies

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 29, 2023 6:07 pm

Saving details work fine under Firefox.

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:08 pm
jupes
jupes
June 29, 2023 6:09 pm

From KD above:

“Electrical Trades Union state secretary Troy Gray fronted a parliamentary committee into the future of native bird shooting on Thursday where he threatened to run a multimillion-dollar campaign, citing his membership’s “unprecedented” support for the controversial practice.”

About time unions flexed their muscle about some of Labor’s policies. But why ducks? There must be many more things pissing off their members.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 6:09 pm

Mak Sikkar, Sharri Markson’s Sky News interview with Matt Kean was actually quite useful. Kean, like Markson, believes NSW ICAC is a kangaroo court that — disgracefully — took two years to bring down “corrruption” findings against Gladys Berejiklian when it could have been done in months.

Berejiklian says her legal team is reviewing the ICAC findings. I hope they decide to contest them.

As Cassie says, NSW ICAC was set up by the public service deep state to bring down LNP leaders and governments while ignoring serious ALP government corruption.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2023 6:09 pm

Lysander GreyRanga is spelt with an “e”. Thankyou very much. The ones spelt an “a” are common. Not at all like my fine personage. Others may disagree. Form a line please.

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:11 pm

Let me try my joke about when CL sees the new digs:

Rosie
Rosie
June 29, 2023 6:11 pm

New format will take getting used to.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 6:12 pm

Innit guvnor?

Does anyone know how I can do 43 dots followed by a LOL?

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:12 pm

Lysander GreyRanga is spelt with an “e”. Thankyou very much. The ones spelt an “a” are common. Not at all like my fine personage. Others may disagree. Form a line please.

Well since I only learnt to block quote about five minutes ago you should be a bit more worried!!!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2023 6:13 pm

Innit guvnor?

…………………………………….. LOL!?!
Got it.

Pogria
Pogria
June 29, 2023 6:14 pm

I have missed most of today’s blog travails. Been busy making my donation for tomorrow night’s weekly pub raffle in aid of our local Rugby team.
I thought I should let you know what treat I baked today. It is almost dinner time after all.
Mini tarts made of crispy peanut butter pastry, filled with my home made salted caramel and topped with my home made 70% dark choc fudge.

Drooling yet? 😀

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:14 pm

Tomato
Orange

Lysander
Lysander
June 29, 2023 6:18 pm

Well, looks like I’ve gotta learn a bit of basic html but blockquotes will do me for now.

Have a great evening all thanks DB, I know I speak on behalf of everyone in saying you’re doing a good job keeping us all connected! (yeah, even the moron twins).

cohenite
June 29, 2023 6:20 pm

As coal gets closed down the green idiots are going to build batteries to save us. Peak stupidity has not yet been reached:

https://www.theleader.com.au/story/8252526/state-and-federal-partnership-to-replace-nsw-coal-power/

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2023 6:22 pm

“Berejiklian says her legal team is reviewing the ICAC findings. I hope they decide to contest them.”

Her defence that the ministerial code of conduct didn’t apply to her as premier is tantamount to an admission of wrongdoing. She let herself and, more importantly, the tax payers of NSW down and, frankly, will be fortunate to avoid criminal proceedings. I don’t give her a pass because she’s a Liberal or a woman. The alleged politicisation of ICAC only means that Liberals need to be scrupulous in their dealings. If they aren’t they shouldn’t be there.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 29, 2023 6:22 pm


I know you think anyone could do it, but you’re cleverer that me.

The truth! You’re even lazier than me. That’s pretty impressive. I set a high standard.

I used the following text except for the left parenthesis, ‘(‘, being replaced by the less than symbol, otherwise a left angle bracket, and likewise the right parenthesis, ‘)’, being replaced by the greater than symbol. The less than and greater than symbols tell the system that there is some html coming up and so don’t print.

(blockquote) (i)
I know you think anyone could do it, but you’re cleverer that me. (/i) (/blockquote)

The blockquote centres the following text and the i makes it italics. The slash ‘/’ sign switches it off.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 29, 2023 6:23 pm

Oops. Can you fix my name – H B Bear

sfw
sfw
June 29, 2023 6:29 pm

Remember BOM carrying on about El Nino for the past few months? Well I wish it would get here. My car was covered in ice this morning, not frost, it rained briefly last night then everything froze. Even had ice inside my windscreen. BOM forecast a milder warmer winter, well it’s been terrible cold here and very wet, Max temp the last two weeks 8C, Monday last week mas was 1.8C at 2.00 PM. I think I’m over winter.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 29, 2023 6:32 pm

Agree. The Glad Bag doesn’t deserve a pass. It would be good to see Optus’ telecommunications licence placed under review for appointing her while the ICAC finding was pending. Pending the result of the trial, let’s hope Daggles is reduced to penury and reduced to begging for alms on the streets of Wagga, where the local citizens spit on him and throw half eaten KFC wings at him out of pity.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 29, 2023 6:34 pm

If you copy and paste the fake html and then replace the parentheses by angle brackets, and insert your own text, you can all do italicised blockquotes any time. If you replace the html i by a b, you can have it in bold. Lots of us have worked it out. I agree that buttons are quicker.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 6:42 pm

Dover, I love the new page top art — a bird flying to freedom out of the tyranny that now surrounds, a lovely adjunct to the classical art you have given us. Long live art — and freedom.

miltonf
miltonf
June 29, 2023 6:42 pm

The alleged politicisation of ICAC only means that Liberals need to be scrupulous in their dealings. If they aren’t they shouldn’t be there.

JC
JC
June 29, 2023 6:43 pm

It’s hard to predict cold Antarctic blasts, SFW. El & La are one of the least difficult predictions to make. On their own and all things equal it does mean warmer or dry seasons in terms of impact on Australia . Nothing to do with gerbil warming. Obviously, they didn’t teach that at SS school, yeah?

JC
JC
June 29, 2023 6:44 pm

Whoops

On their own warmer of cooler

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2023 6:47 pm

I bet there were a lot of nasties in the doco knuckles.

miltonf
miltonf
June 29, 2023 6:48 pm

Sorry Roger they’re your words-just wanted to say you are spot on. It’s like Bishop’s stupid helicopter ride- don’t give your opponents ammunition. That the meja are against you is a given.

Rosie
Rosie
June 29, 2023 6:48 pm

How is Portugal JC?

Crossie
Crossie
June 29, 2023 6:49 pm

The new format was faster earlier on but when I refreshed just now it took ages to load again.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2023 6:50 pm

Makes my mouth water Pogria.

Crossie
Crossie
June 29, 2023 6:50 pm

The comment loaded up quickly, maybe it’s just refreshing that takes ages.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 29, 2023 6:50 pm

So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.

– George Orwell

Min
Min
June 29, 2023 6:52 pm

Hope I can adjust to this new site

Rosie
Rosie
June 29, 2023 6:54 pm

My visit to the grave of my great great uncle today was a success. As mum predicted there is no headstone. Family was pretty hard up in the early 50s, though quite a few others buried nearby were were apparently in the same boat.
Was once a small country cemetery now swallowed up by suburbia.
Mum spotted a few old school fellows or their parents and we found a great uncle from the other side who had a decent headstone.

Muddy
Muddy
June 29, 2023 7:00 pm

A dude with passion:
https://twitter.com/ScottLoBaido

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 7:04 pm
Gabor
Gabor
June 29, 2023 7:07 pm

yes, basic html is not hard, I often wondered why Tom is posting the ‘toons individually instead of as a block. On the other hand, his way gives a chance to value them separately, so there is that.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2023 7:09 pm

“BTW I thought you said at the time you had a Moderna booster Lizzie”

Nope. Always said I had Novavax. So did Hairy. Had two AZ’s as starters.

That’s all we’ve ever had. Wouldn’t take Moderna as it is mRNA.

Wonder if this comment will make it to the new format.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 29, 2023 7:10 pm

SFW.

Been warmish here in NQ. 16-18 deg coastal mins have been average which is unusual for us. By June we usually are seeing bursts of single figures for a few days before it cycles back to the teens.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2023 7:11 pm

Gabor, I’d love to be able to post cartoons en masse as that would eliminate the 15-20 minutes it takes to post them individually.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2023 7:11 pm

I bet there were a lot of nasties in the doco knuckles.

Well yes, but I couldn’t recognise any of the Grampians. Plenty of birthing trees though, so there’s that.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2023 7:11 pm

Yay! It did make it.

That packet dinner last nite was disgusting. Just letting you know.

We won’t buy one of those again. Best to cook from scratch, boring tho’ it is.

Vicki
Vicki
June 29, 2023 7:13 pm

“This place looks & feels like the inside of an Audi.”

Not the R8.

Sorry, but this feels like decades back in a Time Machine.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2023 7:16 pm

“What a disgrace, didn’t much care for Gladys, but corrupt? Nup. She had a dodgy boyfriend.”

Cassie, I seldom disagree with you but on this I most certainly do. Don’t you remember that Gladys held off on lockdowns in NSW and acted in a reasonable manner concerning the “pandemic” right up to the point when she was in danger of being caught up in her boyfriend’s misbehaviour? And then suddenly, we became Victoria II, with her standing there daily exhorting us to do what we’re told, or else?

Never forget and never forgive.

caveman
caveman
June 29, 2023 7:18 pm

First

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 29, 2023 7:20 pm

***I’m over winter.***

Me too. The water’s too cold;

Pogria
Pogria
June 29, 2023 7:22 pm

Grey Ranga,
a few threads back, we had a discussion about the state of Rugby and how ridiculous it had become with all the woke virtue signaling. We also agreed that while professional Rugby deserved no loyalty, we shouldn’t abandon our grassroots clubs.
I used to be a fairly successful baker. My new town has accepted me unconditionally. One of the locals actually saved my life last year.
So, I figured the best way I could contribute was to donate my skills to local fundraising. I desperately miss baking on a large scale. The local Rugby club, which caters for all age groups, is in desperate need of funds. They run a Friday Night Raffle at the pub and I add my home made goodies to the donations for the raffle.
Win-win for both of us!

rickw
rickw
June 29, 2023 7:23 pm

Test

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2023 7:24 pm

“Sorry, but this feels like decades back in a Time Machine.”

I’m assuming it’s a temporary fix while dover works on the issues.

In the meantime, enjoy the nostalgiC FEEL. :d

cohenite
June 29, 2023 7:25 pm

Due to the cold weather the poor cute owls are wrapped up so here is a video of some big guy farting in the faces of ladies in NY. Strangely the ladies mostly seem to like it; at first I thought it was head prefect:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1223073978399979

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2023 7:25 pm

I have spent the whole day in at Centrelink, Social Worker, Employment Agency, Doctors. All sorting various things out, with and for my oldest adult son, who had a complete meltdown over the weekend. I am exhausted. He’s realised at last that he needs psychiatric assessment and help but it’s sent him close to catatonic and suicidal. I’m too old for this, but if I don’t address it now he’ll simply fall through the cracks again as a hundred times before. The bureaucracy is horrendous even though the people are all very nice and want to help. We’ve been given at least three conflicting pieces of advice. It does my head in.

And come home to Sans Serif on the Cat. Ah well.

I don’t suppose any of it matters all that much in the scheme of things nor that anyone here knows or cares much about this sort of thing.

I’ll just keep trying. Can’t leave him to die.

This site looks like a hospital. Too clean.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 29, 2023 7:25 pm

I step out of the FNQ jungle gloom, into the bright lights and excitement of Coen, and find the Cat has frizzled.

I’m hoping this is nothing more sinister than some sort of edge of electric civilisation thing.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2023 7:26 pm

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@KAGdrogo

Bill Gates is a bioterrorist.

https://twitter.com/KAGdrogo/status/1674123528898240515?s=20

miltonf
miltonf
June 29, 2023 7:26 pm

To call the last LNP gubmit in NSW a disgraceful sellout and betrayal would be an understatement

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 29, 2023 7:26 pm

He is spot on.

X: Have you had a regular flu shot?
Me: No, you stupid idiot … now f-off!

It is truly is astonishing the amount of people that gobble up the Big-Pharma muck.

Opinions may vary.

“Doctor” Tries to Shame RFK, Jr. Over Position on “Vaccines,” Gets Hit Over the Head by Real Science

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 29, 2023 7:28 pm

Guys/Gals – create your comment in – https://joannenova.com.au/2023/06/thursday-12/

use b.i,link & quote etc – Preview it – then copy and paste in newcatallaxy blog

EasyPeasy

Crossie
Crossie
June 29, 2023 7:28 pm

I just watched Alan Jones on AHD TV where he talked about Gladys. He said that she was innocent though hoist on her own petard. Alan elaborated that he urged her verbally and in writing to change the ICAC law to protect the innocent particularly after the Margaret Cunneen travesty. What’s worse, Gladys went the other way and fortified its powers. It’s almost as if Liberals are firing only on one cylinder.

Pogria
Pogria
June 29, 2023 7:30 pm

What would be nice is a reply function at the end of a comment. That way we wouldn’t have to copy and paste comments or time stamps. Also, JC could be compartmentalised when he has been on the sauce.

We used to have some epic comment runs on Blair’s blog.
No disrespect to Dover, He is my favourite deity right now.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2023 7:32 pm

The Vigilant Fox
@VigilantFox

Repeated COVID Shots Weaken the Immune System: Study

Boosters should be “approached with caution,” concluded the authors of a recent study. “Repeated mRNA vaccination … may also cause autoimmune diseases and promote cancer growth …”

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2023 7:33 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2023 7:35 pm

Bill Gates and China: A National Security Threat?

https://www.libertynation.com/bill-gates-and-china-a-national-security-threat/

I have to input my details each and every time I post.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2023 7:37 pm

Detroit parents slam ‘deceptive’ teachers and demand the truth about ‘hidden screens’ computer system that conceals students’ trans ID from their families

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12238655/Detroit-parents-slam-deceptive-teachers-seek-truth-secret-records-trans-students.html

Rabz
Rabz
June 29, 2023 7:37 pm

Greetings all. This is a surprise.

Crossie
Crossie
June 29, 2023 7:37 pm

“Cassie, I seldom disagree with you but on this I most certainly do. Don’t you remember that Gladys held off on lockdowns in NSW and acted in a reasonable manner concerning the “pandemic” right up to the point when she was in danger of being caught up in her boyfriend’s misbehaviour? And then suddenly, we became Victoria II, with her standing there daily exhorting us to do what we’re told, or else?

Never forget and never forgive.”

———————

Indolent, I forgot that. Yes, Gladys was reasonable at the beginning of the COVID hysteria and we were hoping for the best and then the sudden about face. Like you said, never forget, never forgive.

Rabz
June 29, 2023 7:37 pm

Surprise that I’ve used the wrong email address (again) …

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2023 7:38 pm

EXCLUSIVE: LA’s TikTok doctor for trans kids as young as seven admits that puberty blockers and hormones CAN cause bone disease and infertility, at private student seminar

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12242933/LA-TikTok-doc-trans-kids-admits-puberty-blockers-hormones-cause-disease-infertility.html

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2023 7:38 pm

We have started watching the TV series on Netflix called War Gamers. It’s about how the WRENs in WW2 were brought in to calculate and plot the attack strategies of the Uboat Wolf Packs in order to mount a response to devastating merchant sea losses.

It’s done with some dramatisations and commentary by old timers who were there plus historians making sense of it. Very watchable.

MatrixTransform
June 29, 2023 7:38 pm

looks like a Spectacled Monarch (Symposiachrus trivirgatus)

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