Open Thread – Mon 20 Nov 2023


La Grenouillere, Auguste Renoir, 1869

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Indolent
Indolent
November 21, 2023 3:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 21, 2023 3:44 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 21, 2023 3:56 pm

Those Middle Eastern barbers are usually quite good. Just don’t be there when they go up in flames.

I have no experience regarding that. I do find that a righteous shave is a heavenly thing.

I suppose the danger for Palis (and Arabs in general) is that they might might hold a razor to their throat while enjoying a piece of music, relaxing at some accountery whereby they can be confident they have money for tomorrow, receiving medical treatment, benefitting from some scientific achievement, laughing at a joke – any one of which might be infected by Jooness and requiring a quick slice across the gullet.

I was going to suggest that they might might take some solace in sports, where Jewish people do not excel – but where do Arabs excel?

bons
bons
November 21, 2023 4:03 pm

Good heavens. My 48 yo nephew from SA was on the header this morning bringing in the barley. Because their hand was ill, his wife was driving the bin. When everything unexpectedly came to a halt, she climbed up and found him dead.

What can you say? He missed all the best bits – grads, weddings, grandkids.

On top of her absolute distress she is faced with the need to get the crop in. They have a contractor for the wheat but not the barley. The neighbours will eventually do what neighbours do, but in the meantime the 80 yo FIL will step in with his granddaughter riding shotgun on him. Fortuitously, she missed schoolies because she was also ill.

Idiot business, life.

Indolent
Indolent
November 21, 2023 4:05 pm
Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
November 21, 2023 4:05 pm

Nothing much has changed in antisemitism since medieval times. Two factors as examples:

In the past the local baron or pasha would sign an approval for Jews to settle in some degraded quarter of their town or hamlet. It might last for decades or a few generations then be retracted. They would be heckled out and hounded out and go through it all again somewhere else. It’s the League of Nationas and its successor this time, but no different. Jews can only live where others permit.

The word of a Jew pleading their own case was not accepted in court; their evidence or supplication had to be supported by good Christians. Israel’s evidence of the cynical use of civilians, hospitals, schools and UNWRA sites follows the old rules – it’s not accepted. Israel is accused of the war crimes of Hamas. However if Israel allowed quite reasonably (they said) independent verification by …. blah, blah, blah. “Evidence by Israel needs to be supported by good human rights NGOs”.

Kneel
Kneel
November 21, 2023 4:07 pm

M0nty: “October 7 does not morally justify turning Gaza into rubble.”

When Hamarse publicly states they will do it again and again until Israel is no more, what choice do they leave the Israeli’s? None. And that was always their intent – to provoke Israel into a massive attack and drag the entire ME into a conflict. Hamarse leaders have said as much, and publicly. They saw the Abraham accords bringing peace and they didn’t like it.

Was the world justified in fighting Nazi Germany in WWII? What makes Hamarse any better, given their founding documents and the public statements of their leaders? No different M0nty – except in one way. The Germans were ashamed of what they did and wanted to hide it. Hamarse posted their atrocities on the internet and bragged about it. The entire world was shocked and eventually destroyed Germany’s capacity to wage war, killing many civilians in the process. Hamarse, as above, is if anything worse and the response needs to be united and hard – this is unacceptable and you WILL submit to the rules or you will die, regardless of the consequences to civilians.
There is and can be no compromise with these savages. The ultimatum must be: renounce it loudly and publicly and stick to it, or we will rise up and destroy you utterly. Your choice. Choose – now.

bespoke
bespoke
November 21, 2023 4:09 pm

bons!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 4:13 pm

bons – awful news, poor family.

bespoke
bespoke
November 21, 2023 4:16 pm

They commandeered the ship recently by boarding it via a helicopter.

Not the same. Try harder.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 4:18 pm

Just in case there is any doubt whatsoever.

You are the carbon they want to see reduced.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/20/revealed-huge-climate-impact-of-the-middle-classes-carbon-divide

The richest 10% of people in many countries cause up to 40 times more climate-heating carbon emissions than the poorest 10% of their fellow citizens, according to data obtained by the Guardian.

Failing to account for this huge divide when making policies to cut emissions can cause a backlash over the affordability of climate action, experts say.

The world’s richest 10% encompasses most of the middle classes in developed countries – anyone paid more than about $40,000 (£32,000) a year. The lavish lifestyles of the very rich – the 1% – attract attention. But the 10% are responsible for half of all global emissions, making them key to ending the climate crisis.


Chancel, in a recent report, noted that a “relatively modest” progressive wealth tax of 1.5% on people with $100m or more in assets – 0.001% of the global population – would raise $295bn a year. That is a similar amount to what is needed to protect the world’s people from the growing impacts of the climate crisis.

An international taxation taskforce is due to launch at Cop28 to push for new climate levies and will consider taxes on wealth, fossil fuels, shipping, aviation and financial transactions.

Townend said: “Rich lifestyles can change to reduce emissions without damaging wellbeing. What matters most to people is our relationships with others and our ability to be social, and those things aren’t carbon intensive to enjoy or maintain.”

Ignore all the bumf about “inequality within countries” and realise they want you living like a Dalit in India or a tribal in Africa to save the world.

Vicki
Vicki
November 21, 2023 4:23 pm

OldOzzie
Nov 20, 2023 4:52 PM
What Hamas did to Israeli women deserves only one punishment: death

Another testimony to the horrors that were inflicted upon the Israeli on 7/10 – especially the women. Always horrific to bear upon reading. But necessary. I only wish those who turn away could be made to read the reality of what occurred.

Winston Smith
November 21, 2023 4:31 pm

bespoke

Nov 21, 2023 3:41 PM
I’ve never drunk it.

You should give it a try Winston. It may just stop you posting brains farts such as marrying ya sister to boost the population.

My sisters are a bit beyond their best childbearing years, bespoke.
But I’ll give it a try…

Pogria
Pogria
November 21, 2023 4:33 pm

Bons!
Dear God, no words.

Vicki
Vicki
November 21, 2023 4:34 pm

I may have posted this before – but I have only just discovered how prosperous Israel has become in the 20 years+ since I was there. Victor Davis Hanson believes that the standard of living is greater than in many states in the USA.

No wonder the Islamist world wants them ‘out”.

Vicki
Vicki
November 21, 2023 4:41 pm

My 48 yo nephew from SA was on the header this morning bringing in the barley. Because their hand was ill, his wife was driving the bin. When everything unexpectedly came to a halt, she climbed up and found him dead.

One of there most dreaded farm accidents. It is a dangerous business. The most everyday jobs on tractors and other farm machinery can go awry at the least lack of concentration or machinery failure. I worry when my not-so-young husband works machinery when he is tired.

BTW I simply won’t help when the mechanical posthole digger is being used. Thank goodness, we rarely have the need for it these days.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 21, 2023 4:49 pm

Former Labor MP Craig Thomson pleads guilty to fraud charges

By liam mendes
Reporter
@liammendes
4:22PM November 21, 2023

Former federal Labor MP Craig Thomson has pleaded guilty to offences relating to fraudulent applications for natural disaster and Covid-19 pandemic government relief, eight years after he was found guilty of using union money on sex workers and fine dining.

The 59-year-old is facing a prison sentence of up to 10 years after appeared at Downing Centre Local Court on Tuesday morning ahead of a four day hearing in which he was initially set to defend the charges.

In 2022 Thompson was charged with two counts of dishonestly ­obtaining fin­ancial advantage by deception, publishing misleading material to obtain advantage and making a false document to obtain financial advantage.
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He has pleaded guilty to two counts of dishonestly obtain financial advantage by deception, and one count of publish false misleading material to obtain advantage has been withdrawn.

A fourth count of make false document to obtain financial advantage will be dealt with at a later date.

At the time of his arrest, police said Thomson was charged after he allegedly made fraudulent applications for the Small Business Covid-19 Support grant and the Covid-19 Small Business Hardship grant.

Craig Thomson? Where have I heard that name before? Ten years up the creek should teach him a few manners.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 21, 2023 4:56 pm

IDF’s spy Unit 504 was critical in unmasking Hamas’s abuse of hospitals

Unit returns to southern Israel after decade-long hiatus; Has interrogated over 500 terrorists and sent out over 10 million evacuation messages.

IDF Unit 504, the military’s human spying version of the Mossad, has been vital in unmasking Hamas’s abuse of hospitals for a variety of terrorist and military purposes, The Jerusalem Post can now disclose.

This information was previously provided to a closed group of military reporters, but it had been kept censored due to operational considerations.

In a recording released by the IDF of a Unit 504 interrogation, a Palestinian who had been in Shifa Hospital said there were many Hamas forces there, and their presence upset the medical staff.

The interrogated Palestinian estimated that he had seen 80 to 100 terrorists there. That was likely only a portion of the Hamas presence there, taking into account that Shifa is a large complex with many facilities.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists were “camouflaged” in the dress of various kinds of medical helpers, and they even went as far as to use the emergency room for their activities, the interrogated Palestinian said.

Another Palestinian, Hamdoah Riad Assad Samlah, described how Hamas terrorists were using 50,000 Palestinian civilians at the large Palestine Red Crescent Society building in Gaza as human shields.

No one would resist the Hamas forces, or they might be killed, he said.

Hamas had wrapped their rockets in civilian blankets to hide them from the IDF, and they frequently fired them from the nearby surroundings of the building, he added.

Another Palestinian told Unit 504 he had seen more than 100 Hamas terrorists controlling Rantisi Hospital in Gaza, split up into tents of about five to six terrorists per tent.

He said he was also in a hospital known as the Sweden Hospital, where he saw at least seven Hamas terrorists. Although they were in civilian garb, he said he knew one of them personally, and the rest were armed.

An additional disclosure is that Unit 504 has reestablished a new physical center and unit to handle Gaza issues and security issues on Israel’s southern border, after a hiatus dating back more than a decade.

This has been possible since Unit 504 has doubled its size since the Israel-Gaza war started on October 7, including with some of the most highly trained reservists in the IDF.

Until the outbreak of the war, Unit 504 was focused more on Lebanon, Syria, and other Middle Eastern countries.For example, Unit 504’s involvement in arranging medical and infrastructure assistance for Syrian militias on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights during the Syrian civil war of the 2010s has been previously reported by the Post and others.

In addition, the IDF said Unit 504 has interrogated more than 500 terrorists since October 7 and arrested and questioned at least 300 terrorists since the start of the Gaza counterinvasion.

Over 300 Hamas terrorists captured and taken to Israel

Unit 504 has helped flag some 300 terrorist sites for IDF operations, with more than 100 of them having later been attacked by various Israeli forces, the IDF said in a statement.

“Until now, we have arrested more than 300 terrorists, as part of the invasion, who were taken for extended questioning to Israel,” a senior Unit 504 commander was quoted as saying. “The information that came out of questioning such prisoners has had tremendous value, led to eliminating other terrorists, and to enhancing the security of our forces.”

The senior officer said his unit had also received thousands of calls from Palestinians in Gaza who wanted to help them with intelligence or otherwise cooperate against Hamas, “an order of magnitude that we had never seen before. It seems that the residents of Gaza are unhappy with the barbaric conduct of Hamas.”

To accomplish these many missions, dozens of Arabic-speaking field interrogators are spread throughout the battle areas in Gaza at the division, brigade, and battalion levels, the IDF said.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
November 21, 2023 4:57 pm

Juliars maate Thommo in the poo again……

Former federal Labor MP Craig Thomson is facing up to 10 years in jail after pleading guilty to offences relating to fraudulent applications for natural disaster and Covid-19 payments.

bespoke
bespoke
November 21, 2023 4:58 pm

RADM Dover.

Have the guts to say Israel should have done nothing. Stop hiding behind whataboutism and cherry picked history.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
November 21, 2023 4:59 pm

Oh, snap ZK2A.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 5:01 pm

Albo’s buddy Xi has decided to halt all fertiliser exports last week.

Handsome boy was belittled to his face & he thought it was a compliment.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 21, 2023 5:03 pm

As I drink a glass of $2.99 a bottle of Hidden Gem Semillon Sauvignon Blanc 750mL – Quite Nice

Australia’s 450 million litre wine glut a ‘big challenge’

Australia wine production has plunged to its lowest level in 16 years, but producers still face a red wine glut as they cling onto hopes of a Chinese revival

Red with Lamb Stew will be Penfolds Bin 28 2017

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 21, 2023 5:08 pm

Buyer Beware

Hotel booking made with Qantas website ‘didn’t exist’ when Aussie arrived at accomodation

A non-existent hotel booking was what greeted an Australian man after his long-haul flight, despite him paying Qantas for it months earlier.

An Australian man has revealed the crushing moment he arrived at the overseas accommodation he booked and paid for via Qantas only to be told his booking didn’t exist.

Melbourne local Aaron Smith paid for his 12-night stay at Apollo Dimora Calicut, in India’s south, through the Qantas website in September, along with his flights.

When he arrived at the hotel – where he stayed for a business trip – on November 9 however, staff claimed they had no record of his booking, and because it was late in the evening, he had no way of contacting the airline.

“We resolved to create a temporary booking so I could contact Qantas in the morning, which I did, but they reiterated that the booking was active and confirmed,” Mr Smith told news.com.au.

Hotel staff initially doubled down on having no record and it was only after several days it found his booking.

At that point however, staff told him he would need to pay about 30 per cent more than what he paid through the Qantas site because he had been given the incorrect rate.

A series of chat messages and emails between the traveller and Qantas subsequently unfolded, during which it was revealed that Qantas was “essentially a wrapper” for Expedia, a third-party holiday booking site.

Both the hotel and airline told him they were “waiting on Expedia” to resolve the issue, despite the site not being mentioned at all throughout the booking process.

Mr Smith argued Expedia should have been “completely taken out of the loop in the resolution” given Qantas didn’t outwardly indicate it used the site.

“My suspicion is that the hotel doesn’t manage its listings very well and probably have wrong pricing all over the place,” he said.

“But my issue throughout this whole process has been the ongoing communication with Qantas and their inability to get a resolution up until this morning [Tuesday].”

He didn’t rule out that a post he made to X, formerly Twitter, could have spurred the airline into finding a resolution.

“I did that to try to apply pressure and get a response because I was completely out of options otherwise,” he said.

Hotel staff insisted he paid an increased rate, which was expected to be the equivalent of about $300 on top of what he already paid.

Shortly after he contacted news.com.au to share his experience, and after almost two weeks in limbo, Mr Smith was informed by Qantas that it would cover additional charges imposed by the hotel when he checked out.

“Arguably this should’ve happened 10 days ago rather than five hours before checking out,” he said.

Chris
Chris
November 21, 2023 5:09 pm

Challenge – accepted!

Lamb shanks in Grange for me please… with truffled mash and fresh green peas from the paddock.

Delta A
Delta A
November 21, 2023 5:13 pm

bons
Nov 21, 2023 4:03 PM

Terrible news, bons. My sincere condolences to you and your family.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 21, 2023 5:14 pm

Former federal Labor MP Craig Thomson has pleaded guilty to offences relating to fraudulent applications for natural disaster and Covid-19 pandemic government relief, …

The Rosencrantz and Guildenstern to one of the truly epic periods of mismanagement of this nation. Just one of a number of thieves inside the Parliamentary triangle during this time.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 5:18 pm

There really are some retarded takes on wage growth.
The RBA chief says that wage growth at 4% is too high.
This is after the former RBA chief was given an almost 10% pay rise in his final year (almost 100k gross).
If you look at where the above trend wage growth is coming from, mainly in the public sector, those who want to point the finger at minimal wage hikes can go jam it.

Lysander
Lysander
November 21, 2023 5:21 pm

From wiki:

On 17 November 2021, Thomson was alleged to have “facilitated more than 130 fraudulent visa applications over four years, resulting in more than $2 million of financial gains”

Lysander
Lysander
November 21, 2023 5:23 pm

Gee, Thomson seems like “a really nice guy”

Thomson has been married three times, first to Lynette Sharma, second to Christa, and then, on 21 January 2011, to Zoe Arnold, a radio newsreader and media advisor.[55][56] The couple have two daughters, born in 2009[57] and 2011.[58][59]

As of March 2022, Thomson is estranged from his wife and is subject to an AVO against him.[60]

Chris
Chris
November 21, 2023 5:23 pm

bons,
that is terrible news. I hope neighbours can help enough to get the crop in OK.

I lost a friend bout 25 years ago; he had built up his sheep stud, almost lost it just as about to hold their first sale through infection of footrot; went through six years of rebuilding and isolation. Just a couple of weeks before their first (again) ram sale he felt a bit crook and went back to bed.
His wife did the school run with their 6yo, came in to check on him about 10am and he was gone.

Mike was a hard working, dedicated farmer and a top man. His son is now grown, and taking over the farm hardly having known what a great Dad (and Opa lost too) he had. I however was lucky enough to be their farm worker over holidays and gap years, neighbour and classmate much of my life, and learn their values.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 5:26 pm

The locals who were paraded through the camp denied that they knew anything about it.

Dachau is about a 20min train trip from the centre of Munich.
It was built there because it was on the train line.
Next to a large barracks/training school.
The place sucked in resources from the surrounding area.
All the locals knew because they made money from supplying the place.
All these “innocent” civilian stories make me sick.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 21, 2023 5:28 pm

‘Mass exploitation’: Jewish community pens letter to Premier as criticism for not condemning Free Palestine school strike

Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan is in the firing line after she defended students’ right to protest while the Jewish community and Coalition claim she has failed to properly encourage children to stay at school.

Amy Roulston – Digital Reporter

Jewish community members have penned an open letter to the Victorian government for failing to take a “forceful” stance against school students attending a Free Palestine protest this week.

Students are being urged to walk out of class at 12.30pm on Thursday, November 23, and head to Melbourne’s landmark Flinders Street Station for the demonstration which is planned for an hour later.

More than 6,000 members of Victoria’s Jewish community have signed a letter addressed to Premier Jacinta Allan and Education Minister Ben Carroll, asking the state government to take a “clear” and “forceful” stance against the protest.

Ms Allan and Mr Carroll have told students they are expected to be in the classroom but have copped criticism for not being strong enough in their stance, with the Premier conceding the right to peacefully protest is a “…fundamental principle of our democracy that must not and should not change.”

The letter claims most students in Victoria “will not have a direct connection or a comprehensive (if any) understanding of the attacks on Israel and war in Gaza”.

“Is the ‘Free Palestine’ rally truly concerned with hearing the voices of school children, or is it about the mass exploitation of children to advance their cause?”

“This sort of rally only leads to ‘other-ing’ and binary positions of ‘us and them’,” the letter reads.

“This is dangerous both in terms of the potential for physical escalation as recently seen in Caulfield as well as the psychological damage that can be caused through exclusion.

“Children have enough to deal with, they don’t need to be on the streets protesting an issue so complex that most adults can’t comprehend the nuance.”

Federal Liberal Senator and shadow education minister Sarah Henderson also heaped pressure on the Premier to take a stronger stance, accusing her of being “irresponsible” and “reckless” for not condemning the protest.

“The Premier has been very irresponsible in effectively green lighting students going to this protest by saying that they have a fundamental right, a democratic right to attend a protest,” she said.

“That is irresponsible, that is reckless, and I’m calling on the Premier to reverse her position and make it very clear that students should not attend this protest on Thursday.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 21, 2023 5:32 pm

The Fall of Minneapolis

November 20, 2023 – Sundance

As noted by the New York Post, “a brilliant new crowdfunded documentary, “The Fall of Minneapolis,” aims to remedy our collective amnesia about the events of May 25, 2020 — a time when the country was already half-mad from the ravages of COVID-19 and forced lockdowns, and when Democratic Party operatives, including candidates Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, seized on the “Defund the police” movement, in order to bring down President Donald Trump.”

The film is based on Liz Collin’s Amazon bestseller

“They’re Lying: The Media, The Left, and The Death of George Floyd,” which exposes the holes in the prevailing narrative surrounding George Floyd’s death, the trial of Derek Chauvin, and the fallout the city of Minneapolis has suffered ever since (more).

Here is the full video documentary:

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 5:33 pm

Commiserations Bon.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 21, 2023 5:34 pm

Trump Leads GOP Primary Field With 67%, Dominates Biden +8 and Harris +12

November 20, 2023 – Sundance

An interesting follow-up poll from Harvard Harris [DATA HERE] shows the continued strength of the Trump MAGA base against the field of GOP/Dem candidates and useful idiots.

With Donald Trump holding a commanding 67% lead over all other GOP candidates, one must ask why they remain in the nomination process without being able to break single digits.

The answer to that question reveals their corporate agenda.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 5:36 pm

False accusers should be severely punished.

So true.
I’ve shared the story of the fellow I know who’s been tired up with DVO’s based on his ex’s made up stories.
He’s spent a night on two separate occasions in lock up for allegedly breaching the DVO before being let out post a hearing.
Both false, both verifiable incidents that the plod could have checked into before locking him up.
The “good” news is that he’s had the DVO set aside.
And now his ex has one against her.
Many lols.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 5:40 pm

You make an excellent point Katz that Jews have to have every claim verified by someone else while the words of self proclaimed murderers and rapists are taken at face value.
How anyone that has seen the footage of the man being dragged through the shifa foyer with his shirt over his head can claim he was being taken for medical treatment is beyond me.
All that footage of the Nova festival yet someone can steal a few seconds idf footage verifiably taken 10 km away and pretend that is proof that Nova goers were all killed by a rogue idf helicopter pilot.
Who apparently also raped the women, loaded up people dead and alive, and took them to the pogrom parade in Gaza.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 5:43 pm

Hamas now claiming truce talks are close to being finalised.
We’ll believe it when we see it.

bons
bons
November 21, 2023 5:45 pm

“defend the students’ right to protest”.

They are school kids you disgusting, ignorant commie bitch.

Since when did wagging school become Government sanctioned.

Creating monsters.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 5:51 pm

Oh and on the must be independently verified front.
The hamas mafia were out in force complaining that the shifa tunnel footage was edited.
It certainly was, the drone lost its signal at the base of the shaft and the rest of the footage was taken via dog gopro, you can tell the dog was walking.
It’s pathetic.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 5:52 pm
Muz
Muz
November 21, 2023 5:53 pm

… I gave myself a week to make this decision. Did the same back in 2007 when I was living in Melbourne, and I just couldn’t stand the site’s direction then. So I’m out for a couple of years. Scrolling 90% of comments just to read calli, cassie, rabz, KD, and half a dozen more … more power to your arm you lot for keeping it all up. I’ll come back later, if this site is still allowed to exist.
Because I think 2024 is going to be a bit shit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 21, 2023 5:53 pm

Tomo makes a mockery of the “I’ve dun nuffink wrong” defence.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 5:57 pm

H.

“Ironically there are a number of people here who demise me at the subatomic level. Expected. Irrelevant.”

Probably meant to type “despise” ? .. but I get it I get fat fingers too.

These people think that by being relentlessly unpleasant to each other ..it some how counts as debate ? then, some how arrive at the mutuall conculcion, they all hate each other’s stinking guts … Petri Dish ? Nah I meant Democracy …

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 21, 2023 5:58 pm

Random cruel and sudden CHD. A terrible death to happen in any family.
Condolences to you and your family, Bons.

m0nty
m0nty
November 21, 2023 6:04 pm

Was the world justified in fighting Nazi Germany in WWII? What makes Hamarse any better, given their founding documents and the public statements of their leaders? No different M0nty

What a ridiculous thing to say, Kneel.

Cats: Hamas is no different to Nazis so Israeli genocide is based actually
Also Cats: Russia are just plucky freedom fighters sticking up for themselves in the face of imperial aggression by those nasty Ukes

As usual, you are making no sense.

Winston Smith
November 21, 2023 6:09 pm

dover0beach

Nov 21, 2023 4:48 PM
Not the same. Try harder.

Of course it’s the same. You commandeer one or more ship and by doing so raise the costs of shipping through that zone as insurers either raise the rates or refuse to insure your ship travelling through that area.

Thank God someone realises just how you stop shipping.
You don’t need torpedos or submarines or naval task forces – you just get the insurers to raise their rates. And the only way around this is to have the government take on the risk – which is bloody expensive all by itself because then it takes warship convoying etc etc.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 21, 2023 6:10 pm

bern

If you look at where the above trend wage growth is coming from, mainly in the public sector, those who want to point the finger at minimal wage hikes can go jam it.

And if you look closely, I suspect that the grossest increases come to those under the ambit of the Remuneration Tribunal, which covers, inter alia, Commonwealth politicians, judges, senior public servants and military officers, and probably a whole bunch of statutory officers in organisations like the Reserve Bank, HREOC, AAT, and many, many other QANGOs.

The total cost of those determinations would be a good subject for a Parliamentary Question on Notice, but no politician would ever ask it. Even a question to your local member would almost inevitably be replied to with babble about “privacy”.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 6:13 pm

@M0nty

these people hate you …. when the conversation lapses they have all sorts of things to say about you …

My puzzled outlook was that you are an “Ice breaker” ..an invention of these people to pep up the repartee …

My be Yes or Maybe No ?… But the way you are coming across now is all ” Come Home M0nty..all is forgiven”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 21, 2023 6:13 pm

I’ll come back later, if this site is still allowed to exist.
Because I think 2024 is going to be a bit shit.

Very good indeed of you to be so gracious in offering your esteemed presence.

I too think we may need the succour of this blog in a shaky 2024.

This site only exists because people support it with their time writing its varied content, which is a major contribution from all, producing something unique; and some also offer support with their money. It will only survive if people are prepared to fight for it against muzzling laws, not from the sidelines but in the thick of it, here now, maintaining its place in the Australian blogosphere. All thanks to Dover for making it possible. He doesn’t even require us to agree with him. 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 21, 2023 6:18 pm

mUttley Merkin

Cats: Hamas is no different to Nazis so Israeli genocide is based actually

Actual evidence, of the type that Hamarse put out live to air on 7 October, or you are, yet again, lying.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 21, 2023 6:20 pm

In Bringing Inflation to Heel news:

WA hydrogen production hub funding as milestone reached

The federal government has promised $70 million to the H2Kwinana Hydrogen Hub, which it says will help to decarbonise WA’s industrial sector by lowering emissions.

The Man With the Punchable Face Looking Into the Middle Distance tells us:

Mr Bowen said Australia had hydrogen projects in the pipeline that were worth about $200-$300 billion.

“By 2050, Australia’s hydrogen industry could generate $50 billion in additional GDP and create over 16,000 jobs, as well as an additional 13,000 jobs from the construction of renewable energy infrastructure to power the production of green hydrogen,” he said.

“These projects are the next step towards using locally produced renewable hydrogen in Australia to reduce our industrial emissions and develop a renewable export future.”

A few quick sums:

CSIRO tells us that the H2Kwinana Hydrogen Hub that Shitweasel Bowen is buying for us appears to run a 110MW electrolyser producing 44 tonnes of hydrogen per day (yes, forty-four tonnes). Assuming 24/7/356 operation, this works out at 16,000 tonnes of hydrogen annually using something like 960GWh of power.

Assuming the mandated ‘renewable’ power can be purchased from the Western Power system at the average WA wholesale $60/MWh, the electrolyser power cost works out at around $58m pa.

The cost to BP of the Base 1 Bowen Super Project is about $330m (after our $70m contribution) – so assuming 7%/20yrs, around $40m pa capex/interest recovery.

No idea what opex and sustaining capex might be, but assuming $zero, the bright Green hydrogen is going to come out at something north of A$6/kg. Only quite a bit more than the renewable industry fantasy $0.5 to $2.00/kg target price.

Looking forward to the other $270 billion worth of these gems.
We’re gunna be an international powerhouse, baby…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 21, 2023 6:22 pm

Condolences bons.
I’m assuming the header stopped because the he slumped off the seat.
A terrible shock for his poor wife. Forty eight is not a fair innings.

bespoke
bespoke
November 21, 2023 6:22 pm

I thought bird packed up his petri dishes on gone back to the asylum.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 21, 2023 6:23 pm

Well, the curry we’re having tonight won’t make itself.

Someone’s gotta fry the meat and onions and open the pak of curry sauce to pour over it for a slow cook. The rice and broccoli can wait till later.

Might chose some good music for dancing around the kitchen. 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 6:23 pm

Cats: Hamas is no different to Nazis so Israeli genocide is based actually

What genocide Monty?
The only side committing genocide are the Palestinians.
Take your strawman (they/them) and stick it where the sun don’t shine son.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 6:23 pm

@M0nty

see ! why try to brown up to these people ? You say one thing they contend you said the exact opposite ..then go on to destroy an conjecture you never made in the first place … then call You the Liar …

bons
bons
November 21, 2023 6:24 pm

If these are truely the terms of an agreement with HAMAS it provides no benefit to Israel and simply sets up HAMAS to pull the same ‘negotiations’ stunt next week.

250 hostages. 50 at a time. The animals can run Israel out of time before their UN puppets shut them down.

I do not believe that Israel would be this naive.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 6:24 pm

And if you look closely, I suspect that the grossest increases come to those under the ambit of the Remuneration Tribunal,

I saw a video today of some department deputy getting a gig on 850k per year because it was set by the tribunal.
This is where the wage growth needs to be stopped.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 6:28 pm

I do not believe that Israel would be this naive.

50 hostages being released is worth a hefty price.
Then it’s 190 to go (according to Sharri the number is 240 in total).

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 6:29 pm

@Bruce …

I know you know better than this … and you know you do too …

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 21, 2023 6:29 pm

Saw a new doc today. You’re not really eighty-one are you, she says, looking at her notes. ‘Fraid so, I reply.

Didn’t stop her booking me in for a full double-ender of the inner workings in January. You know all the prep gen, she says, for I’ve had these before. Turn up at 8.30am, she says, and the good news is we do the old people first.

You win some.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 6:29 pm

It was heartening to read IDF are getting thousands of phone calls from Gazans who want to be Hamas free.

JC
JC
November 21, 2023 6:31 pm

Dover

Insurance rates would have risen the moment insurers knew Israel’s intentions after the massacre. You weren’t clear. Are you talking about commercial shipping or naval shipping being blockaded by helicopters?

—————–

Nurse Betty, Turtlehead piss off, you moron. You have no business joining my conversation much less being here, you low IQ orphan.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 6:31 pm

Also Cats: Russia are just plucky freedom fighters sticking up for themselves in the face of imperial aggression by those nasty Ukes

/Moments before this post….

The biggest source of back and forth argument at the cat since, pretty well forever, and Munted of Malmo detects a hivemind.

Barry
Barry
November 21, 2023 6:32 pm

Dr Faustus
Nov 21, 2023 6:20 PM

… the bright Green hydrogen is going to come out at something north of A$6/kg.

Which in J/kg terms is about the same as buying diesel for $23/litre.

And don’t forget the carbon emissions from manufacture and construction of the plant.

It’ll never become net zero.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 6:32 pm

@ Bruce

and since I know the sort of chap you most probably are “stick it where the Sun dont shine ” demeans your gravitas …

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 6:32 pm

I doubt they’ll get 240 back alive.
Hamas don’t know where they all are and I suspect many of the young single women are already dead.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 6:33 pm

Australia’s 450 million litre wine glut a ‘big challenge’

I wish I could say I was helping, but sadly I have some Spanish garnacha in my glass.

European wines coming into Australia this last decade or so has been a nice thing.

Pogria
Pogria
November 21, 2023 6:34 pm

I have never liked Susan Sarandon both for her lousy acting and the fact that she is mad as a cut snake. But, this Evil Bitch has crossed the Rubicon.
I’d wager muntsac has a poster of her in every room of his house.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 6:35 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 21, 2023 6:35 pm

Good to get your informative links, Rosie, and to follow up others on the sidebar from these. Figures on how many Hamas have been ‘extinguished’ are difficult to come by and vary a lot. IDF casualties seem low, but figures there vary too. Fog of war stuff I guess. Same for civilian casualties, some of which are notably exaggerated and likely also Hamas.

Muz
Muz
November 21, 2023 6:35 pm

Lizzie at 6.13:

It never occurred to me to be “gracious”, and I am hardly esteemed, because I’ve made probably ten comments in a year. You don’t know me, you clearly don’t know what I meant. You are one of the reasons I’m taking a break. How exulted you must feel when you hit “send”, ninety times a day.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 6:37 pm

Mark, the only gravitas I can boast in is what Newton measured.

My particular branch of science has featured overalls and getting dirty a lot.

Last white coat I wore was in the mid eighties. Monty will get over the insult.

Which he most certainly deserves. He’s a big Alinsky fan.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 21, 2023 6:37 pm

Boltons, like the other products with the same name, seems to have a brain made of silicone gel.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 6:44 pm

@ Bruce

apologise!! … that was snotty and rude of me … all sorts of Hell is going down right now in the ME … I have no clue what or why … so much entanglement … but you are right in that M0nty invoking Nazis is lazy and stupid …

I have really only one Heartfelt Opinon “May The Lord Almighty have some Mercy on Us because we have none for , whatsoever, for each other”

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 21, 2023 6:44 pm

I see the hallucinogens are taking effect.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 6:45 pm
dopey
dopey
November 21, 2023 6:45 pm

Standard Monty tactic. ” Israel commits genocide because I say that it does.” Genocide is the killing or attempted killing of an entire population of people, down to the last man, woman and child. Israel does not do that and the useless turd knows that very well. He can scoff and sneer all he likes, he is still a turd.

Pogria
Pogria
November 21, 2023 6:49 pm

Snap! mole. 😀

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 6:51 pm

I have really only one Heartfelt Opinon

May The Lord Almighty have some Mercy on Us because we have none for , whatsoever, for each other

Which is why debating with you is a useless exercise.

What is your point? What argument are you trying to make?

Coincidentally, in the brief hiatus between crikkit tourneys, I’m watching Game of Thrones reruns on Focks.

The current episode is one in which Ramsay Bolton features prominently. He’s the bloke who cut off another bloke’s cock and kept him as a bitch for several years, in the same manner as some gentlemen do in Maximum Security.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 6:52 pm

I see the hallucinogens are taking effect

Pro tip – never go to the Bolton household for beef wellington, particularly if mushrooms (of any sort) are involved.

JC
JC
November 21, 2023 6:54 pm

Argentina has 150% inflation and socialists have been in power destroying that country for 40 years

Heading towards 200%. I love this dude, Milei. He’s way over the top, too. Peronists have had control of government since the 1930s, so it’s been longer than 40 years. The big problem for Milei is that he may not be able to get his therapy through Congress.

I want to see him dollarize the economy because the central bank cannot be trusted ever again. The only problem with dollarization is that he needs to deregulate all facets of the economy in order for it to be as flexible as the US economy. This means junking tariffs to protect the home markets and junking labor restrictions. Mind you, the Argentinian economy would be the model His leadership has been touting over these years. 40% of the population lives in poverty.

Dollarize quickly, and then ensure the rest of the policy is followed through. N

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 6:55 pm

A few thoughts on the protest on Thursday in Melbourne.
This is being organised by adults who apparently have the permits to proceed.
As it has been marketed effectively to school students wouldn’t the organisers have to meet the working with children criteria.
If I had the ear of Mark Leibler or someone similar, I would be lobbying the relevant authorities to ensure those rules were enforced & all the checks done.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 6:56 pm

@Bruce.

The Anti Zionist Jews are going ballistic ATM .. Try Kathie Halper and The Greyzone forinstance Hey they even make me blush … Alls I am trying to do is put a finger on the pulse. Realisticaly how can I get any, even remotely reliable information ? Much Less take some stance and Gob off … such as Monty ?

Sorry for having a swipe at you … One finger forward and four back ? … you know the drill and so should I …

Peace

Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
November 21, 2023 6:56 pm

When I had the theory of AGW explained to me it went like this – CO2 is a greenhouse gas that does warm up the atmosphere, this heating won’t be huge but it will result in more evaporation of water, that evaporation will heat much more as water vapour is a strong greenhouse gas, this heating will result in more water vapour. and then it continues apace and we all die.

I didn’t believe it but that’s the theory.

They’re planning a massive hydrogen plant in Wodonga, it has lots of grants and subsidies from state and federal govs, they plan to replace 10% of the natural gas supply to the area with hydrogen, apparently this will reduce CO2 emissions. But the product of burning hydrogen is water vapour, so won’t this produce way more ‘greenhouse’ gas than the current pure natural gas supply? I have asked them this question but no response so far.

This plant produces the hydrogen by electrolysis, this uses around 50kw of energy to make 1kg of hydrogen, when that 1kg of hydrogen is burned it produces around 33kw of energy. None of this makes any sense, why are engineers and other smart people not screaming about it?

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 6:57 pm

The big problem for Milei is that he may not be able to get his therapy through Congress.

JC, his party has 40 odd seats in a 250 odd seat congress.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 21, 2023 6:58 pm

Aaaaand we’re off.

m0nty
m0nty
November 21, 2023 6:58 pm

Question for Cats: when Johnny Farnham sang “two strong hearts, reaching out forever from the river to the sea, running free”, was he actually delivering a message to all his Palestine comrades?

miltonf
miltonf
November 21, 2023 7:00 pm

None of this makes any sense, why are engineers and other smart people not screaming about it?

engineers were frozen out of energy policy years ago and don’t expect any sense from Engineers Australia- it was captured decades ago

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 7:02 pm

A few thoughts on the protest on Thursday in Melbourne.
This is being organised by adults who apparently have the permits to proceed.

As with the global warming/cooling/boiling ‘protests’, if they were serious they’s schedule it for a weekend.

Then we’d see the Devotion Of The Children in full flight – i.e., zero if there isn’t a day off school to be had.

Yes I know that the Year 12 kidlets finished most of their exams last week.

JC
JC
November 21, 2023 7:05 pm

feelthebern
Nov 21, 2023 6:57 PM

The big problem for Milei is that he may not be able to get his therapy through Congress.

JC, his party has 40 odd seats in a 250 odd seat congress.

Yes, hence the big problem, although he may be able to rely on the center-right. I don’t know what they have.

If he dollarizes quickly and doesn’t do some serious heavy duty reform, it’s going to go from 150% inflation to deflation very quickly and stay there. I hope God is backing him.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 7:05 pm

Question for Cats: when Johnny Farnham sang “two strong hearts, reaching out forever from the river to the sea, running free”, was he actually delivering a message to all his Palestine comrades?

If he sang that Monty, yes.
There is only one meaning to that phrase.
Every single muslim on the planet could tell you what it means.

It is written.

Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 7:05 pm

As with the global warming/cooling/boiling ‘protests’, if they were serious they’s schedule it for a weekend.

100%.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 7:09 pm

@ M0nty

Question for you … Iggy asked it .. would your Boss put up with such mindless belligerence ? You bring it but you cant deliver it …. wanna wind up unemployed ? It aint so bad …

https://youtu.be/LC9km8qnbOY

Cassie of Sydney
November 21, 2023 7:09 pm

“bons
Nov 21, 2023 4:03 PM”

My condolences, Bons. There are no words.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 7:09 pm

when Johnny Farnham sang “two strong hearts, reaching out forever from the river to the sea, running free”, was he actually delivering a message to all his Palestine comrades?

Well, let’s see. That painful faux-anthem was written by two blokes called Andy Hill and Bruce Woolley. Hill:

Andrew Gerard Hill (born 1957) is an English record producer and songwriter who worked with Bucks Fizz and Celine Dion during the 1980s and 1990s.

Bucks Fizz. probably not, then. Woolley:

Bruce Martin Woolley (born 11 November 1953) is an English musician, singer, songwriter, and record producer. He wrote songs with artists such as the Buggles and Grace Jones, including “Video Killed the Radio Star” and “Slave to the Rhythm”

So. Bucks Fizz and The Buggles.

I’m tipping those clowns (like the first-year uni students squealing in city CBDs) picked it because it sounded nice, not because they knew what it meant.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 21, 2023 7:16 pm

A really good game of NFL today.
A replay of the most recent Super Bowl, Eagles v Chiefs, wet weather on real grass.
The Aussie who plays for the Eagles, Mailata had a great game. The Eagles qb still was got at a bunch, but Mailata did his job.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 7:18 pm

@M0nty .. is saw you had a swipe at me just to endear yourself with the people you think you have scored point by trying to annoy .

They think you are a failure and they think the same of me …

No but brown up to them harder … it will work this time …

Lee
Lee
November 21, 2023 7:21 pm

Question for Cats: when Johnny Farnham sang “two strong hearts, reaching out forever from the river to the sea, running free”, was he actually delivering a message to all his Palestine comrades?

M0nty equates a line in an old song with the genocidal meme of a prohibited terrorist organization.

And I suppose the young, fair-haired, white woman in an anti-Israel protest who was yelling out “there is only one solution” through a megaphone, meant “peace, love and kisses,” not what Hitler intended?

Indolent
Indolent
November 21, 2023 7:22 pm
JC
JC
November 21, 2023 7:23 pm

And, just as I thought.

Israel’s ship industry urges government to help with jump in war insurance

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 7:26 pm

Speaking of great Voices … and a sentiment worthy of reflection …

https://youtu.be/Lp2j579fglI

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 7:27 pm

We’ve got a two state solution
We stick together like the honey and the bee
You and me we’ve got a
Two state solution
Reaching out forever like the river to the sea

Is that right, mUnter?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 7:27 pm

My opinion of Milei remains unresolved since he immediately played the Falklands card yesterday. Unless he gets a clue he will faceplant rather bigly.

Alamak!
Alamak!
November 21, 2023 7:34 pm

If he dollarizes quickly and doesn’t do some serious heavy duty reform, it’s going to go from 150% inflation to deflation very quickly and stay there

People have dollarized their savings offshore already. The reforms needed to support the poor and stop massive subsidies still to be done. Going on the last 100 years of their economy with constant boom/debt/bust cycles I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Excellent steak and good cheap wine to be enjoyed in BA, even during high inflationary times.

Cassie of Sydney
November 21, 2023 7:35 pm

M0nty equates a line in an old song with the genocidal meme of a prohibited terrorist organization.”

He’s a Jew hater.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 7:41 pm

I worked Security for Kasey

The noise that come out of that little tadpole … Security had to hire Security .. to keep us from just … well mind blown … all a blur …

In mitigation for my Client Your Honor … “if you had been there you would have known … ”

All BS … aside … This tiny thing is explosive

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 7:50 pm

pinching each other ships is surely nothing new … tit for tat and bluster …

cohenite
November 21, 2023 7:50 pm

Man made global boiling, AGW, is so stupid, so destructive, so hateful it was bound to succeed amongst the pus minded left in the West. Facts and evidence are pointless to these brain dead bastards but here is Willie Soon, a brilliant astrophysicist and geoscientist, simply explaining why AGW is wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOiC5zFNgEs

calli
calli
November 21, 2023 7:51 pm

Looks like I’m on my way home later today. Dad has had a severe relapse, Mum is in tears and little brother is overwhelmed.

I probably won’t get back in time, but here’s hoping. The Beloved is currently organising tickets out from Tromso – Oslo – Dubai – Syd, so back in the Bay by Friday to gather up the pieces.

All around me is ice and snow. A leaden sky speaks of heavy falls to come, in fact it outlines dark against the snowy peaks. Even the water, brilliant blue in yesterday’s sunshine, is sombre pewter. It seems fitting somehow. The gaiety of holiday making is now at an end.

MatrixTransform
November 21, 2023 7:55 pm

Cats: Hamas is no different to Nazis so Israeli genocide is based actually
Also Cats: Russia are just plucky freedom fighters sticking up for themselves in the face of imperial aggression by those nasty Ukes

next gen heads are full of gibber like this

notice that mUnty opens a nihilistic gulf that only his mouth can fill while he pretends to save humanity from it self

apparently the right words and the right thinking would have stopped the Hamas incursion and the murder of innocents

mUnty, it didn’t work on Oct 7 or before … and it won’t work now either

another vanity

… just another idiotic brain-fart Dont Stop The Boats Moment

Siltstone
Siltstone
November 21, 2023 7:56 pm

Muz @ 5:53
Fellow lurker. Sorry to see you go. I scroll the “look at me, look at me” types. But there is a core of decent people here who I gain serious knowledge, enjoyment and enlightenment from. I shall scroll the wankers and continue lurking.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 7:57 pm

@KD

can see the facination …

“bloke who cut off another bloke’s cock” ..

enjoy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 7:57 pm

I worked Security for Kasey

A privilege! She’s a trouper.

Almost put up a vid, but Monty has annoyed me, so I won’t.

Back to the novel I’m reading.

calli
calli
November 21, 2023 7:57 pm

M0nty, for all his error and trolling, did not call Jews “flies”. He said the stories coming out of the conflict from both sides were like flies.

From my point of view, the Hamas side are blowies, full of maggots, and the Israeli stories are crystal clear dragonflies, darting around like their life saving drones sending back images for all of us to see.

Cassie of Sydney
November 21, 2023 7:58 pm

Calli, thoughts and prayers.

cohenite
November 21, 2023 7:58 pm

Dickless has been very active lately, spitting and shitting as dickless drones do. Let’s hope one of his ailments causes a relapse and he fuks off again.

Alamak!
Alamak!
November 21, 2023 7:59 pm

I probably won’t get back in time, but here’s hoping.

God speed, calli. I’m sure many peoples prayers & thoughts will follow you.

Cassie of Sydney
November 21, 2023 8:00 pm

M0nty, for all his error and trolling, did not call Jews “flies”. He said the stories coming out of the conflict from both sides were like flies.”

Not as far as I’m concerned, in fact his comment last night about “flies” was thoroughly Goebbelesque. He’s a grub.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 21, 2023 8:03 pm

H B Bear

Nov 21, 2023 5:14 PM

Former federal Labor MP Craig Thomson has pleaded guilty to offences relating to fraudulent applications for natural disaster and Covid-19 pandemic government relief, …

The Rosencrantz and Guildenstern to one of the truly epic periods of mismanagement of this nation. Just one of a number of thieves inside the Parliamentary triangle during this time.

There was one particular incident among his many colourful evenings of entertainment which struck me. Craig put quite a large sum on the HSU credit card at a particular flesh-pot in Sydney.
An amount so large, it could be concluded that:-
1. Craig was a man with epic stamina and a cast iron appendage; or
2. Craig simply liked to watch ladies cavort; or
3. Craig was accompanied by colleagues and picked up the entire tab.
My money is on 3.

calli
calli
November 21, 2023 8:04 pm

Thank you fine friends. We ummed and ahhed for about an hour and then it all became crystal clear. Our duty is summed up in the Fifth Commandment.

After that, it was easy…apart from the logistics. And once obedience starts to take its course, that will be plain too.

It’s far harder to let go of a parent than a stupid holiday.

cohenite
November 21, 2023 8:04 pm

Just noticed this from dickless:

Cats: Hamas is no different to Nazis so Israeli genocide

In the time Israel turned a camel and goat ridden desert into a vibrant democracy the pallis have managed 2 things: constant violence and disgusting acts of barbarity and tripled their population. Just like your AKs eh, the dickless grub. May all your diseases be many and painful.

Cassie of Sydney
November 21, 2023 8:05 pm

There is only one side of the conflict that is telling the truth, and has told the truth since 7 October. That side is Israel. That side is the Jews.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 8:05 pm

@Bruce

Yess! that enormous Voice but … Hey any Cow can bellow … The way Kasey uses her voice with the power of Fractuer …but then when it suits, her she can turn it into a scalpel …. Mate .. just recording devices never make it possible … That is what a Great Voice is about … Overwhelming power but minute precision … Just gotta be there .

Still ~tear up … something else that wee taddy

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 21, 2023 8:06 pm

Coalition takes lead as Albanese government declines for third week straight, latest Roy Morgan poll finds
Madeleine AchenzaNCA NewsWire
Tue, 21 November 2023 4:32P.M

The Coalition has taken the lead in recent opinion polling with a narrow majority of people indicating they would vote for them.

Support for the Labor Party on a has fallen by 0.5 per cent since last week, according to the latest Roy Morgan poll on federal voting intention conducted this week.

The Coalition have taken the lead with 50.5 per cent of those polled on a two-party preferred basis saying they would vote in their favour.

The result is in line with the low-point experienced by the Albanese government immediately after the defeat of “the Voice” referendum in mid-October.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 21, 2023 8:08 pm

Calli

Very sorry to hear your bad news. Best wishes to you and your family.

cohenite
November 21, 2023 8:11 pm

Since Kenny’s madness about the screech he hasn’t made a wrong move about Israel, global boiling and renewables/nuclear/fossils etc.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 21, 2023 8:12 pm

Brittany Higgins to give evidence in ‘de facto rape trial’

A year after the criminal case against Bruce Lehrmann collapsed, the question of whether he raped Brittany Higgins in a Parliament House ministerial office will again be interrogated in court. This time, it will fall to a federal judge to deliver the answer.
By stephen rice and ellie dudley
From Nation
November 21, 2023
6 minute read

Just over a year ago, the rape case against Bruce Lehrmann collapsed after a juror brought external evidence into the jury room, with a retrial then abandoned over fears for Brittany Higgins’ mental health.

That train of events left unanswered the question that had gripped the nation: Did Mr Lehrmann rape Ms Higgins on the couch of a senior Liberal minister in Parliament House?

On Wednesday, the question will again become the subject of interrogation, this time in a defamation action.
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And it will fall to Justice Michael Lee in the Federal Court to deliver the answer.

Mr Lehrmann is suing Network 10 and journalist Lisa Wilkinson over an interview she conducted with Ms Higgins that aired on The Project in 2021, detailing accusations Mr Lehrmann had raped Ms Higgins, but not naming him as the alleged attacker.

The defamation trial is shaping up, as predicted, to become a de facto rape trial, with Ten seeking to prove that Ms Higgins’ allegations that she was raped in Parliament House in March 2019 are “substantially true”.|

Ten is confident Ms Higgins will take the stand to give evidence that she was raped by Mr Lehrmann.

Concerns over her fragile mental health led prosecutors to abandon a retrial of Mr Lehrmann in the ACT Supreme Court last year, but Ms Higgins has confirmed her commitment to appear as a witness “to defend the truth” in any civil action brought by Mr Lehrmann.

However there will be significant differences between the two cases, most notably that Ms Higgins is not protected by the same rules of evidence that apply under criminal law to complainants in sexual assault cases.

In addition to its truth defence, Ten also claims it did not identify Mr Lehrmann in its broadcast, and that it made reasonable efforts to contact him and get his response.

Ms Wilkinson, former co-host of The Project, has hired high profile defamation barrister Sue Chrysanthou SC after unexpectedly ditching Ten’s legal team.

No questions about knickers to be asked..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 8:16 pm

Calli, godspeed.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 8:18 pm

Let’s hope one of his ailments causes a relapse and he fuks off again.

A touch of Fourniers Gangrene would be apt.

WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
November 21, 2023 8:20 pm

My thoughts are with you calli – hoping you can get back in time.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
November 21, 2023 8:20 pm

Sad news Calli. Take care of your family.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 21, 2023 8:23 pm

Calli…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 8:23 pm

Is this an inversion of economics?

Isnt removing money from consumers the whole aim of interest rate increases?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-21/rba-interest-rates-minutes-businesses-passing-on-inflation-costs/103130820
Alarming signs that some businesses are passing higher inflation costs on to Australian consumers convinced the Reserve Bank that another interest rate rise was needed to dampen inflation expectations.

Key points:
Minutes from the RBA’s November meeting show that concerns about businesses passing on inflation costs was a major factor in increasing interest rates
RBA board members decided that lifting rates to 4.35 per cent on November 7 would also reduce the risk of an “unwelcome” rise in inflation
Financial markets expect the RBA will keep rates on hold at its final meeting for the year next month
Minutes from the RBA’s meeting a fortnight ago noted that while “longer-term” inflation expectations remain “broadly anchored” there were “growing signs of a mindset among businesses” that any cost increases could be passed on.

“If sustained, this would contribute to higher inflation,” the minutes noted.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 21, 2023 8:23 pm

Calli, all the best to you and your family. Safe journey!

Vicki
Vicki
November 21, 2023 8:28 pm

God speed, Calli.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 8:28 pm

Very sorry to hear your news Calli

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 21, 2023 8:28 pm

A new “no proof needed, but can be rolled out anytime to prove Australians are “racisty racists who race things” whenever the news cycle goes a bit quiet.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-21/call-it-out-racism-report-first-nations-people/103130436

Custom made for reporting on Das Projekt or their ABCcess.

And a new blood funnel into that luvery OPM.
The period under review in this Report concluded in March 2023 — more than six months prior to the Referendum on a Voice to Parliament … researchers are expecting a spike in the next report

Call It Out researchers are hoping the information will be used to inform anti racism campaigns, educate the wider community, help investment in this space and inform law reform.

calli
calli
November 21, 2023 8:28 pm

No need to say more, guys…I know you care.

Time to get onto more important matters like Thermomix recipes and trucks vs. trains. You know you want to.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 21, 2023 8:29 pm

m0nty, Nov 21, 2023 6:58 PM
Paramotor m0nty descends just low enough for his pained breathless voicebox to be heard inventing the world’s first Whataboutfarnsyism, before buzzing away back to his day job as a rent boy for Hamas.

Don’t let a rock hit your butt in the landing, m0nts!

Winston Smith
November 21, 2023 8:34 pm

Muz:

Because I think 2024 is going to be a bit shit.

That’s my thinking too – too many points of contention leading up to US election.
The ethnic pot coming to a boil in Europe, the Saxons finally getting pissed off their government and illegal immigration, Iran will be getting their first nuke, the US and race tensions getting out of control – but the whites all over getting pissed off with being pushed around.

Yep, 2024 will be a bit shit.

m0nty
m0nty
November 21, 2023 8:36 pm

We’ve got a two state solution
We stick together like the honey and the bee
You and me we’ve got a
Two state solution
Reaching out forever like the river to the sea

Art is in the eye of the beholder, Nucky.

On a related note, how about when John Denver sang When The River Meets The Sea? That one is in high rotation on our car stereo every summer, as part of the Muppets Christmas album.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 8:38 pm

@Colonel Crispin Berka

read what you just wrote .. grace much .. ? Intelligence much ?… sure M0nty annoys you ..but how is this “come back” in any way usefull to you or dignified discourse?

Delta A
Delta A
November 21, 2023 8:40 pm

Calli, may God be with you and give you strength to face what lies ahead.

Crossie
Crossie
November 21, 2023 8:40 pm

calli
Nov 21, 2023 7:51 PM
Looks like I’m on my way home later today. Dad has had a severe relapse, Mum is in tears and little brother is overwhelmed.

Calli, hope you get there in time. Your holiday has not been a failure, you visited a fascinating part of the world and saw the glory of the Northern Lights.

Delta A
Delta A
November 21, 2023 8:44 pm

Calli, may God be with you and give you and your family strength to face what lies ahead.

Alamak!
Alamak!
November 21, 2023 8:45 pm

Is this an inversion of economics?

Mole> The inflation game is played by producers and consumers both guessing that higher prices can and will be levied in the market. Producers attempt to pass on their inflationary costs and consumers will spend now if they see low expectation of prices moderating or falling “soon”.

While higher interest rates remove buying power from those with debts, for others the rates provide more spending $$$. So it may be that having inflated asset values for so long there is little effect in raising rates on overall spending … leaving asset values as the shoe that needs to drop.

Crossie
Crossie
November 21, 2023 8:45 pm

cohenite
Nov 21, 2023 8:11 PM
Since Kenny’s madness about the screech he hasn’t made a wrong move about Israel, global boiling and renewables/nuclear/fossils etc.

Oh I don’t know, he’s now in the Gladys camp for Optus CEO. No, just no.

Winston Smith
November 21, 2023 8:47 pm

JC
Nov 21, 2023 6:31 PM
Dover

Nurse Betty, Turtlehead piss off, you moron. You have no business joining my conversation much less being here, you low IQ orphan.

I didn’t see your ownership tag on the subject,
And I guess the ceasefire is over, is it?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 8:48 pm

On a related note, how about when John Denver sang When The River Meets The Sea?

Idiot. Almost every river meets the sea. Some end in lake or desert.

Take your stupid sophistry and shove it up your arse.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 8:49 pm

how about when John Denver sang When The River Meets The Sea?

John Denver carked it in a plane crash.

Whether or not that was his method of getting hold of 72 sultanas, as is the case with your compadres* remains to be seen.

*Of course they’re not your compadres. They at the very least had the stones to go through with it.

For you to get 72 sultanas, you’ll have to pay for them at the shops. With the assets and income of other people.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 8:53 pm

@m0nty

Yeah you had a go at me …and still trying to suck up to these people with your pathetic passive aggressive goading ….to which they will dutifully respond.

I am not even convinced you even exist…

If you didnt exist and I was the sort of bloke that can crack a walnut between his arse cheeks ..like apparently they all are ..you would be invented as ..some mustache twirling ..cape swishing Nemesis …

These people will do that … every time I have tried to have a productive conversation with them they completely misrepresent any view I ever proffered … Pile on the Ad Hom .. and then go on to munch the Pink Ribbon between their teeth …

But any ways M0nts ..congrats for “tugging the forelock ” when you had a snipe at me … Sure the objects of your adoration will love you for that… But you will never be a part of the “cool crowd” …regardless of your grovelling and faux dissidence.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 8:58 pm

and then go on to munch the Pink Ribbon between their teeth …

Please. This is a family blog.

Put the acid strips down.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 9:06 pm

@KD

and why do you imagine Denver augered in? Perhaps because he found himself in control of a piece of machinery … built by amateurs … and with a set up that was “less than optimal ” … Like you and your supposed “Upper Crust” ..but never mind … Money always out weighs reality…

OH my bad … I should have politely asked how much you enjoyed an “Entertainment” about “blokes chopping each others cocks off” … Not to my taste for sure but great that someone loves that kinda thing …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 21, 2023 9:11 pm

At least John Denver wasn’t chubby.

Sir Cliff Richard’s This Morning appearance sparks uproar after ‘rude’ remark (20 Nov)

Sir Cliff Richard sparked outrage among This Morning viewers on Monday after he made a “rude” remark about Elvis.

The singer sat down with Alison Hammond, Dermot O’Leary, and Sarah Ferguson to chat about his extensive career in the music industry.

However, when asked about Elvis, Sir Cliff told the hosts he once refused to have a picture taken with the King of Rock because he was “overweight”.

Yes, you guessed it, the woke have their collective knickers in a twist because Cliff Richard fat-shamed Elvis.

rosie
rosie
November 21, 2023 9:12 pm

A couple of days ago he was telling someone how he escaped south under the noses of the IDF.
You might think it looks pretty authentic except the kid in the blue T-shirt is smiling, and of coursemr fafo.
this morning Mr fafo was driving a donkey cart, this afternoon he’s rescuing bomb victims.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
November 21, 2023 9:14 pm

Bruce of Newcastle Nov 21, 2023 7:27 PM
My opinion of Milei remains unresolved since he immediately played the Falklands card yesterday. Unless he gets a clue he will faceplant rather bigly.

He’s angered the Argentine veterans of the Falklands, who’re royally browned off at him for praising Margaret Thatcher for being “One of the greatest leaders in the history of humanity.”

However, his declaration that Argentina has non-negotiable sovereignty over the Falklands means he can go & get knotted.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 9:15 pm

and why do you imagine Denver augered in? Perhaps because he found himself in control of a piece of machinery … built by amateurs … and with a set up that was “less than optimal ”

There’s a (glider) pilot you should talk to about this sort of thing. He’s at the lollipop blog.

… Like you and your supposed “Upper Crust” ..but never mind … Money always out weighs reality…

Curses! I never suspected I was one of the Upper Crust!

Hang on – I say, Carstairs, bring the good Bentley around, there’s a chap – no, not the Wednesday one, the Tuesday one. Goddammit man, I know you lost a leg in the war but really.

Sorry Bolts – one just cannot obtain the right sort of help in this day and age. In any event, I am undoubtedly lower crust. I only indulge in Beluga – at the correct temperature, naturally – three days per week.

I need to maintain my lean, hungry streak. Like the leopard, whose head sits atop the study fireplace.

Zippster
Zippster
November 21, 2023 9:15 pm

Based?
Paul Joseph Watson

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 9:19 pm

@Bruce

A Great Mate and dearly lamented bloke that I wish could be with me now …died doing what He loved ..smashing a plane into the Planet… I was skeptical … I always Remember OLD Mate as someone that was pretty good at NOT doing that kinda thing .. And kinda liked it like that …

No clear finding was ever found on his Death …

cohenite
November 21, 2023 9:19 pm

how about when John Denver sang When The River Meets The Sea?

How about this tune: dickless has cancer and it’s eaten his brain; that’s why he’s a little leftie pain.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 21, 2023 9:25 pm

I see they have located the wreckage of the aeroplane which speared into Port Phillip Bay on the weekend.
Who knows what went wrong without Hallward here to tell us?
But formation flying in moderately quick aircraft whilst trying to get fillem for a TV doco?
Any form of close formation flying is best done without distraction.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 21, 2023 9:29 pm

John Denver carked it in a plane crash.

Two big problems with Denver’s experimental plane.

1. It didn’t fly.
2. It didn’t float.

Apart from that it was great.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 21, 2023 9:33 pm

Oh, yes.
John Denver.
Real name Henry John Deutschendorf Jr.
Born on December 31, 1943 in … wait for it … Roswell, New Mexico.
So obviously alien involvement in his plane crash.
Or at least Mossas.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 21, 2023 9:33 pm

3. You couldn’t fly it and play the guitar at the same time.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 21, 2023 9:34 pm

bons
Nov 21, 2023 4:03 PM
Good heavens. My 48 yo nephew from SA was on the header this morning bringing in the barley. Because their hand was ill, his wife was driving the bin. When everything unexpectedly came to a halt, she climbed up and found him dead.

Faark! That was horrible to read.

Wishing all the best to your family.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 9:39 pm

To any one that has a Heart . Denver’s Long EZ … ? Also he wasn’t legal to fly because of certain extravagances… Hey who hasnt been there ? .. Wouldnt bother me…

The Fuel Selector was in an inaccessible place… any one who has ever built an airplane …No Way … He hadnt prepped adequately ..I hate his music but RIP Brother !!

The Long EZ is wonderfull to fly …

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 9:41 pm

Probably not so enjoyable to crash … but “you pays yer pennies and you takes yer chances”

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 21, 2023 9:43 pm

rosie
Nov 21, 2023 9:21 PM
BBC doing their best to confirm that what Israel says about shifa is correct.

mUnty again proves that he is the ultimate wrongologist. He has been swearing black and blue that what the BBC now accepts could not possibly be.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 21, 2023 9:44 pm

Mossas?
Mossad.
Of course.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 21, 2023 9:47 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Nov 21, 2023 9:33 PM

3. You couldn’t fly it and play the guitar at the same time.

4. You couldn’t fly it, play the guitar and switch fuel tanks at the same time as it turned out.

shatterzzz
November 21, 2023 9:49 pm

All the locals knew because they made money from supplying the place.
All these “innocent” civilian stories make me sick.

All the “camps” in Germany, itself, were located close to or in towns/cities .. All of the large war supply factories had their own subsidary “camps” within their grounds or close by ..
reference : KL.. A History of the Nazi Concentration Camps .. Nikolaus Waschsmann 2015

MatrixTransform
November 21, 2023 9:53 pm

Zippster

if yr the same old (and missed) cat commenter that used to zip-related

then good to see you back

if you’re an entirely new type of zipper, then please, have at it

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 9:53 pm

@Sancho Panzer

wanna know what ? All my flying instructors to them!! (bar one ) have died in small plane crashes … we never though it could ever happen to them but it went on and did .

Jorge
Jorge
November 21, 2023 9:56 pm

Earlier today, listened to BBC World program on lying and its relation to culture and cultural norms.

Nothing to say about Muslims (naturally) but interesting about others. Learning to lie and to recognise when others are doing it is an essential part of growing up. In English cultures we have the white lie which smooths social interactions. In Japan, they have ‘hon’ which denotes your private, unrevealed thoughts and feelings which you keep to yourself. There is another term for the opinions and thoughts you speak in public. In China, there are ‘purple lies’: lying out of modesty e.g. when your test result is a high distinction but you pretend it’s ordinary.

Top of the table, bluntest of blunt truth tellers were …… the Dutch. Had to laugh. I have a few Dutch relatives and they don’t hold back in conversation.

The program ended with the reporter in conversation with a young bloke from Amsterdam. She mentioned how in all her other interviews the person interviewed said how much they’d enjoyed the experience. Did he enjoy it ? No. He criticised the room (studio) and the building and made it clear that it wasn’t enjoyable or interesting. LOL.

Gabor
Gabor
November 21, 2023 9:57 pm

wanna know what ? All my flying instructors to them!! (bar one ) have died in small plane crashes

Probably suicide after meeting you.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 21, 2023 10:01 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-21/call-it-out-racism-report-first-nations-people/103130436

Just after KRudds apology, the local “First nations” warriors, were demanding cartons of beer, “Cos you white counts gotta say sorry” accompanied by threats. Where do I report that?

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 10:03 pm

See this is what you are dealing with here @Gabor thinks this is funny..

Indolent
Indolent
November 21, 2023 10:05 pm
John Brumble
John Brumble
November 21, 2023 10:06 pm

Gomers going with the ridiculous “but it was once a buddhist symbol of peace” defence.

Nazis gotta Nazi.

cohenite
November 21, 2023 10:07 pm

Don’t like putting this up but dickless has been very assiduous with his antisemitism. Scumbag hamas chases 4 young women; catches 2 of them and shoots them point blank.

There are many other worst videos around.

There has been no genocide of the pallis as the Nazi supporters claim but since 90% of the pallis support the eradication of Israel and what hamas did on Oct 7 I think the simplest thing to do is to nuke the gaza and be done with it; and then spend some time chasing the hamas leaders living the good life in Qatar and other places.

Mark Bolton
November 21, 2023 10:07 pm

@Gabor

Say His Name … well you wont because you dont know it ..or much else besides …

John Bird

Alan Hays

You giggle at their deaths … I would ask you if you had any shame …Nah waste of time …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 21, 2023 10:08 pm

Daily Mail.

Jesinta Franklin, Anna Heinrich and Pip Edwards dazzle at Women of the Year Awards – as Brittany Higgins and David Sharaz skip red carpet ahead of Lisa Wilkinson’s looming defamation trial

FOURTEEN pictures of Brittany and David What’s his name…

  1. Belgium may be a “rubbish country” but their constitution protects the rights of citizens more effectively than ours. A constitution…

  2. Helsinki court videoclip re MRNA and heart attacks Dr. John Campbell – Around 30 minutes and mostly Audio – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvGCtM25fN0…

  3. Is anyone surprised to find out that wikipedia is being manipulated and NPR is hopelessly biased? https://www.city-journal.org/article/wikipedia-co-founder-shocked-by-npr-chief-katherine-maher

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