Open Thread – Sunday Evening 15 Aug 2021

Nighthawks, Edward Hopper, 1942

N.B. If you’re commenting here for the first time it goes into automoderation. Once I approve it it should appear immediately and without delay from then on.

Also, can people let me know if they like or dislike the nested comment format. I think it saves having to quote replies to existing comments as you can reply directly (there are also other benefits to this) or do you prefer the old format?

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1,419 thoughts on “Open Thread – Sunday Evening 15 Aug 2021”

  1. Bern, that’s currently a trial on a limited number of customers in the US, NZ and Australia.

    No, twitter has been tagging anything that doesn’t fit the narrative for over 6 months.
    With a link to various “official” websites.


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  2. callisays:
    August 20, 2021 at 8:09 am
    Question – my view is without formatting buttons. Is this the same for everyone or do I need to change a setting?

    I’ve got them, but my IT skills are not such as to be able to recommend anything.


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  3. None of the above needs to be an option on all ballot papers.
    Mainly to give voters an option to not provide political parties with the taxpayer funded, AEC overseen rort per primary vote above the minimum quota.


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  4. & now the NY Times has an editorial up saying Russia has had the best 6 months in a decade.
    Biden administration on the ropes re Afghanistan & COVID.

    Hans Gruber: Hit it again.


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  5. Test

    First visit here, Cats – I’ve been flat out recently…
    I’ve put in FOI requests on ScoMao’s “National Cabinet” via PM&C and federal health to see if they told the media not to use the word ‘Ivermectin.’
    The last time I got ink in LTEs with that verboten word was in May, 2020.
    Did the same with Anaesthesia Parasite’s office.
    Doing TheirABC next…
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  6. Is there a way for it to be okay with being personally prepared to get vaccinated and being opposed to governments making lockdown decisions and road maps about getting out of government imposed lockdowns etc?

    I’m for personal decisions about vaccines and zero government intervention of any kind other than making them accessible.

    Happy to pay for vaccines as well.

    No lockdowns no passports no border closures no nothing.

    And please don’t jump down my throat because I was okay with flatten the curve in early March 2020.


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  7. Professor

    If you can use the quote button on your phone you are truly worthy of your title.

    I can link on my phone but quote? Not unless I grap an entire page.


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  8. Flying pigs:

    Inflation Hits Highest Since 1974 in Philly Fed Manufacturing Survey as Growth Unexpectedly Slows

    Back to the 70’s and stagflation runs riot.
    Now everyone should do a stress test on their $450,000 home loan and figure out the repayments @ 19%.
    Your estimated repayments are:
    $ 7,150.02 monthly
    Total principal paid
    $ 450,000
    Total interest paid
    $ 2,123,940


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  9. Feelthebern:

    The WSJ is now reporting what some independent journalists were saying for months about Afghanistan.
    If Biden even knows what day it is, he’ll be particularly surly today seeing the State department has hung him out to dry.

    O’Biden is going to have a massive meltdown -in public.
    Why?
    Because he’s bloody senile, and his missus refuses to vacate the comfy rooms in the White House while she plays at being President.
    Because Harris is a complete idiot and while she will do what she’s told, xer hasn’t the emotional intelligence to do what the job needs.
    The Democrats have created a Constitutional crisis in the US and haven’t a damn clue as to how it can be fixed.
    Meanwhile, the State recount ball keeps rolling along and getting bigger.
    If we look at the Pinochet regime and the chaotic conditions prevailing under its Socialist government, we can see the parallels. A military regime was required to get rid of the Communist chaos that enveloped the country.
    Hopefully that won’t happen. Hopefully, the USSC steps in, nullifies the election, and calls for a new one.


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  10. If you can use the quote button on your phone you are truly worthy of your title.

    Rosie,
    scroll right down to the bottom of the page, and you will see a dark grey bar with white text that says “exit mobile version”, click on that and the quote, etc buttons are restored.

    There never was a strikethrough button on the old Cat, to strikeout start the text you want to strike out with (strike) and end it with (/strike), eg” I really miss (strike)Terry Pedersen(/strike) my grandchildren ” but you need to replace the ( with the less than symbol (shift+,) and the ) with the greater than sign (shift+.)


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  11. our doctors are mostly morons

    Well that guy certainly has credentials!

    Dr Greg Kelly @drgregkelly
    Pediatrician / ICU specialist / MBA. Editor @pedsintensiva, SnrLecturer @UQ_News
    CICU, Pall care, Vegan. Working w you to improve people+planet. He/ him [Rainbow flag]
    Gadigal Country / Sydney Au Joined March 2013

    The rainbow flag is a nice touch, pity emojis don’t register with current settings.


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  12. “I’m disappointed that an allegedly smart journo was fooled by obummer. I wasn’t. I called him for a conman before he got elected.”

    As did I. It was all rather obvious….a completely hollow man.


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  13. Some of the headlines about the zombie’s withdrawl from afshitistan:

    Joe Biden Claims ‘No One’s Being Killed Right Now’ in Kabul Despite Reports of 12 Deaths

    Biden Ensures States, Cities Have No Veto Power Over Afghan Refugees

    Report: Biden Admin Charging Americans Up to $2000 Per Evacuation from Kabul

    CAN’T MAKE THIS UP: Biden State Dept. Focused on Gender Equality as 10,000-20,000 Americans Remain Trapped inside Afghanistan

    ‘That’s Not True’ – Biden Throws Military Brass Under the Bus, Claims They Never Urged Him to Keep 2,500 Troops in Afghanistan to Maintain Stability (VIDEO)

    BIDEN EFFECT: US Lost Several Military Aircraft that Were Flown Out of Afghanistan – They Have No Idea How Many Were Lost — VIDEO

    Taliban Execute Four Afghanistan Army and Police Commanders in Kandahar Cricket Stadium

    Biden says Taliban is just ‘going through sort of an existential crisis,’ gives them credit

    In a just world the zombie would be executed.


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  14. I used to like the strike through button Sinc used to have.

    I don’t think there was ever a strikethough button.

    If this works, you can achieve the effect using HTML tags s and /s within pairs of angle brackets.


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  15. Dan Bongino saying history will deal harshly with the zombie, his sec of defence, lloyd austin, general miley and the swamp. It is not enough that history deals with them; they have to be dealt with now; with ropes.

    Still, as usual, a very good episode of Bongino:

    https://rumble.com/vleont-ep.-1588-bidens-shocking-admission-the-dan-bongino-show.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+Dan+Bongino+Show&ep=2


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  16. Sorry Diogenes

    Not being clear.

    I do know how to exit the mobile version but have never mastered copy paste to quote discrete text on my phone.

    A long long time ago (I’m talking maybe six seven years) there was a strike through button on Sinc’s cat.

    It got lost forever in one of the first where have all my buttons gone episodes.

    Thats for the strike explanation, maybe if I used my pc I’d give it a go.


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  17. I’ll credit Biden with following through with withdrawal from Afghanistan. It’s the right decision, executed in a appalling bungle.
    Doesn’t change the fact that he is a puppet, a cheat, a pervert and a liar, and who is like a lot of Democratic politicians, who’s friends, business associates and family members die in mysterious circumstances. A ghoulish exponent of pure power politics.
    Neither does it change the fact that the marxists will seize the opportunity to pump “refugees” into the west, even while the “pandemic” gives them the excuse to stop the free movements of their own citizens.


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  18. One can only imagine how many pallets of cash are on their way to Afghanistan right now to give the 10,000 US passport holders at least a chance of getting out.


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  19. Calls to suicide crisis line at 57-year high
    ANGELICA SNOWDEN

    Australia’s biggest suicide support line has recorded the most calls for help it has ever received in one day, amid concerns about longterm mental health consequences of Covid-19 restrictions.

    Lifeline counsellors received 3436 calls on Monday – more than any other day in 57 years. Monday was also the day that cases in NSW reached a new high of 478 – a figure since surpassed.

    Covid-19 was a physical and mental health pandemic, Lifeline Australia chair John Brogden said.

    “While Monday was our busiest day on record, it wasn’t a oneoff. It’s been a difficult few year for everyone in the community,” he said. “We’ve seen demand grow 20 per cent since 2019 and it continues to ramp up. Five of Lifeline’s 10 busiest days on record have occurred just this month.

    “These are challenging times, it is OK not to be feeling OK.”

    On August 5, 3425 Australians called the service. And on August 2, 3345 dialled the helpline in what were the organisation’s second and third busiest days respectively.

    The news came after The Australian revealed eight Victorian teenage girls died by suicide in the year to July 31, up from one in the same period in 2020 and three in 2019. The rise prompted youth mental health expert Patrick McGorry to describe mental health fallout from Covid restrictions as a “shadow pandemic”.

    After they endured one of the longest and strictest lockdowns in the world in 2020, Victorians faced further tough news on Tuesday – that their sixth lockdown would be extended by another two weeks, with a 9pm-to-5am curfew enforced. As NSW, Victoria and the ACT remained in lockdown, new research indicated mental health fallout may extend beyond lockdowns.

    A study conducted by Monash University and the Austin Hospital and which surveyed 1157 Victorians, found poor mental health did not appear to be linked with high Covid-19 case numbers. Psychological problems did not improve as cases dropped, according to the report.

    “Stability in rates of poor mental health across time and region stands in stark contrast to variation in SARS-CoV-2 infections and Covid-19 hospitalisations and deaths, suggesting that … adverse mental health impact during the pandemic may be insensitive to objective Covid-19 risk,” the report reads.

    Of those surveyed, one third reported they had anxiety or depressive symptoms in September 2020. About 16 per cent – or 196 – said they wished they were dead in the past 30 days. And 110 – or 9.5 per cent – reported serious suicidal ideation in the past month.

    Study co-author and Turner Institute for Brain and Mental Health deputy director Shantha Rajaratnam said behavioural and lifestyle changes – sleep disturbance, reduced outdoor time and increased screen time – appeared to be risk factors for poor mental health. “We concluded there are likely to be direct and indirect effects of Covid,” Professor Rajaratnam said.

    “Sharp increases reported in mental health (issues) persisted until September at least in Victoria and through to February in the US. That warrants a more sustainable government response to address these mental health problems in the community.”

    Professor Rajaratnam said the report highlighted the need for improved access to mental health support services. “This study at the height of Victoria’s long lockdown, at a time when case loads were relatively low, provided us with a unique opportunity to robustly assess the indirect mental health effects of the pandemic, such as isolation, lack of certainty about income and work, homeschooling, disrupted routines and so on,” he said.

    “(The Victorian 2020 lockdown) helped the rest of the world to understand what may be expected … in a situation like this and therefore what supports need to be put in place.”


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  20. Beer goggles.

    Heavy drinking may impair men’s ability to recognize facial emotions (19 Aug)

    Alcohol intoxication is linked to impairments in the ability to interpret other people’s facial expressions, especially in men, according to a new study. … Heavy drinking is known to have the potential to disrupt the recognition of facial expressions, leading to misinterpretation. This may in turn contribute to inappropriate behaviors.

    Maybe Brittany Higgins could comment on this amazing research finding?


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  21. If you’re going to be imprisoned in your own home, you might as well go the whole way and go to gaol, where you won’t even have to go grocery shopping. You get your own chef, so to speak.

    All you need to do is kill the politician who imprisoned you. Choice of method up to you. You might even be able to take down half a dozen before you get caught, which could be quite satisfying. Not that I’m recommending violence, of course, oh dear me no. Perish the thought.

    Just working through the logic of lockdown.


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  22. Matt Taibbi has unlocked his column on Obama.

    It’s a come to Jesus column.

    Yes it is.
    Worth a 5 minute read.

    I know there was a love of holding up Obama as a polymath virtuoso without peer, but he always struck me as a self-worshipping poseur who so much believed he could do anything better than anyone else that it was pointless to put it to the test. Like the time he told his speechwriters that if he had decided to become one he would have been brilliant, and greater than them. And he was not berating them. Merely honouring himself.

    It is why I have called him Barack von Munchausen – after the fictitious German Baron who shamelessly bragged about his unplumbed talents and impossible feats.

    In Brideshead Revisited Julia Flyte despondently describes her husband, Rex, as

    A tiny bit of a man pretending he was the whole.

    That is what he was, and doubtless still is.

    It often seems to me that there are some people with the money to afford priceless works of art, who stock a cellar with range of wines that mature like those plants that slumber for decades to bloom for only a single glorious night, who insist on bespoke clothing right down to their pyjamas, who dine at the most lavish but unlisted establishments where they can be sure to be seen by the right people, and who make a point of name dropping what places and foods what they think will impress, but never really enjoy it because they are so high on themselves. They can’t open themselves for even a moment to anything refined because there is no space left to experience it.

    We have Bob Carr (Steel cut oats, anyone?)

    American has Barack (Arugula) Obama.


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  23. I don’t suppose a prize for the person who kills the most politicians before getting caught would be proper, but if the New Çat would consider it, may I suggest a few boxes of cigars?


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  24. I know there was a love of holding up Obama as a polymath virtuoso without peer, but he always struck me as a self-worshipping poseur

    If eight years of Bush/Cheney didn’t wake up GOP voters, nothing will.
    If eight years of Obama/Biden didn’t wake up DNC voters, nothing will.


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  25. I know there was a love of holding up Obama as a polymath virtuoso without peer, but he always struck me as a self-worshipping poseur

    You can measure a man by what he thinks important. Obummer thought being surrounded by famous, rich people was important, and being one of them was even more important. Keeping promises, not so much. Just another glib conman, smoother talking than most.


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  26. Bush was a hapless fellow. He managed to get to the top job but could not see beyond ‘business as usual’. He could never make himself bigger than the moment. Everything he did was just the stock-standard response to stimuli. Apologising, war, stimulus packages, etc.

    Obama was something new. He would not be stopped by the walls of convention. Fired by an egotism unlike any that had been seen he swept everything aside to get after what ever wanted, and to his slavering mongrels he would shout “Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of score!”


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  27. I’m disappointed that an allegedly smart journo was fooled by obummer. I wasn’t. I called him for a conman before he got elected.

    I thought that he was more then a conman, his decision to build a Pergamon Altar for his acceptance speech was very disturbing.
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  28. If you’re going to be imprisoned in your own home, you might as well go the whole way and go to gaol, where you won’t even have to go grocery shopping. You get your own chef, so to speak.

    All you need to do is kill the politician who imprisoned you.

    There’s countless hundreds, nay thousands, of hardworking people who’ve lost everything.
    It takes only one of those who’ve had their life’s work carelessly & callously pounded to dust.

    They’ve lost everything, while watching the carefree class receive pay rises – many of them without having to perform any work whatsoever (eg. museum tour guides).

    Losing everything generally is not sufficient for the enterprising types to exact retribution – another trigger is required. If one person with some kinetic ability experiences such a trigger, the protection teams will have a day when they earn their pay.


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  29. Rosie,
    try this. It does take some practice
    Hold your finger down on a word in the text you want to copy for about a second and lift your finger.
    You should get a word highlighted with a pointer at each end, and a little popup menu ,
    Drag the pointers left & right(they look like speech bubbles on my phone) to the start and end respectively
    Tap the copy menu option.
    Go to where you want to insert the text,
    Hold your finger down for a sec & when you release you should see a popup menu for paste,
    Tap paste & you should be good to go.


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  30. Rosie:

    A long long time ago (I’m talking maybe six seven years) there was a strike through button on Sinc’s cat.
    It got lost forever in one of the first where have all my buttons gone episodes.

    That would be about right – about 2014 IIRC.


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  31. Bruce O’Newk:

    Alcohol intoxication is linked to impairments in the ability to interpret other people’s facial expressions, especially in men, according to a new study. … Heavy drinking is known to have the potential to disrupt the recognition of facial expressions, leading to misinterpretation. This may in turn contribute to inappropriate behaviors.

    Fact Check: TRUE!
    I’ve watched it happen over the space of six schooners, leading to disruption of the accurate reading of wymminises expressions. Followed by inappropriate behaviours.
    Trust me on this.


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  32. Salvatore:

    Losing everything generally is not sufficient for the enterprising types to exact retribution – another trigger is required. If one person with some kinetic ability experiences such a trigger, the protection teams will have a day when they earn their pay.

    Would you spend the last few years of your life in gaol for offing a politician?
    Considering the amount of people who are worshiping at the feet of Dan, I wouldn’t raise a finger to harm a hair on his head, Sal.
    The Dan Disease must be allowed to run the full course.
    Experiencing Socialism is the only inoculation to it.


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  33. TikTok has the footage of babies being handed across the barbed wire to the Americans in Kabul.
    It’s numbing.
    Twitter doing it’s best to Hunter Biden the footage.


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  34. Losing everything generally is not sufficient for the enterprising types to exact retribution – another trigger is required.

    You don’t think a few boxes of cigars might tip the balance?


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  35. I popped into the the other Cat for a minute.
    Do I need to get a COVID test & self isolate before coming back to Dover’s?

    A good shower and scrub should be sufficient.


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  36. Would you spend the last few years of your life in gaol for offing a politician?

    Well you could spend the rest of you life in jail for not offing a politician, there’s that.

    5-Hour Capitol Bomb-Threat Standoff Ends as Man Surrenders (19 Aug)

    A man who threatened to set off a bomb on Washington’s Capitol Hill surrendered to police Thursday, ending an hourslong standoff that rattled lawmakers still shaken by January’s Capitol breach.

    The suspect, an apparent right-wing extremist identified by Capitol Police as Floyd Ray Roseberry, had been broadcasting live on social media from his truck, assailing President Joe Biden and Democrats, warning of a “revolution,” and complaining about the U.S. government and its policy in Afghanistan.

    Given how touchy the Dems are right now he may be the first American ever to be sentenced to a thousand years in the pen.


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  37. The Dan Disease must be allowed to run the full course.
    Experiencing Socialism is the only inoculation to it.

    It’s for pretty much this reason that I’m glad to see Steve from Brisbane posting on Cassie’s excellent thread. Nobody is entirely useless, they can always serve as a horrible example.


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  38. Oh that was super easy!

    Thank you very much Diogenes.

    “Hold your finger down on a word in the text you want to copy for about a second and lift your finger.
    You should get a word highlighted with a pointer at each end, and a little popup menu ,
    Drag the pointers left & right(they look like speech bubbles on my phone) to the start and end respectively
    Tap the copy menu option.
    Go to where you want to insert the text,
    Hold your finger down for a sec & when you release you should see a popup menu for paste,
    Tap paste & you should be good to go.”


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  39. “DrBeauGansays:
    August 20, 2021 at 2:01 pm
    The Dan Disease must be allowed to run the full course.
    Experiencing Socialism is the only inoculation to it.

    It’s for pretty much this reason that I’m glad to see Steve from Brisbane posting on Cassie’s excellent thread. Nobody is entirely useless, they can always serve as a horrible example.”

    Hmm….his comment this morning about my sex life was completely inappropriate.


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  40. The first time this happened, I thought, oops.

    I thought it was like one of those Twilight Zone episodes where someone wakes up and discovers everyone else is gone without a trace, and they were the only one alive.

    Is it bad that I cried out in triumph?


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  41. Hmm….his comment this morning about my sex life was completely inappropriate.

    Yes, it was cheap and nasty, which tells us all something about lefties. I already knew, as did you, that lefties are like that, but it’s not altogether bad to be reminded of it.


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  42. Would you spend the last few years of your life in gaol for offing a politician?
    Considering the amount of people who are worshiping at the feet of Dan, I wouldn’t raise a finger to harm a hair on his head, Sal.
    The Dan Disease must be allowed to run the full course.
    Experiencing Socialism is the only inoculation to it.

    Quite so.


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  43. The Dan Disease must be allowed to run the full course.
    Experiencing Socialism is the only inoculation to it.

    Quite so.

    I don’t disagree with you blokes, but I recall the saying A fool learns by his own mistakes, a wise man by the mistakes of others.

    Trouble is, there’s a severe shortage of wisdom.


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  44. The Dan Disease must be allowed to run the full course.
    Experiencing Socialism is the only inoculation to it.

    The ‘Dan Disease’ isn’t going to do anywhere near the damage that will be done by the ‘Biden Disease’

    Just for perspective.


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  45. Quillette has a very amusing story about how medical AIs are very good at extracting information about race from x-ray scans of human bodies. There are ppl arguing that the algorithms should be changed to delete this reprehensible behaviour on the grounds that race is just a social construct. Presumably, since sex is just a social construct, the ability to tell whether the body belongs to a man or a woman will also have to be deleted.

    I’m constantly amazed by how detached from reality relatively educated ppl can be.


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  46. In addition to a “like” button (thumbs up) for each comment, it’d be handy to have one for each post, or at least each non-openthread post.


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  47. I do like the idea that lefties want to impose some artificial stupidity (AS) on machines to bring them into line with leftist dogma.

    You couldn’t make this shit up.


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  48. Dr BG, this is where parallel societies come into play.
    If crazy people want to have their identity politics, CRT, gendered, BLM universe, I couldn’t care less.
    As long as it is not forced on me.
    But that’s the problem, they can’t keep it to themselves.
    Their inner totalitarian demands they force it on everyone.

    I choose to not engage with them in any form.
    My parallel universe is pretty good.


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  49. The best part for me Calli is as he’s telling the story, he moves the maps.
    And says the names of places in Elvish, Dwarf etc.
    I’ve read Tolkien since primary school but that channel has actually brought things together for me.


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  50. Their inner totalitarian demands they force it on everyone.

    that’s the nature of communism, a boot stomping on a human face for ever
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  51. I choose to not engage with them in any form.
    My parallel universe is pretty good.

    Mine too, Bern, but the bastards are making it harder. And if they keep going, they could make it impossible to stay sane. In which case, my form of insanity will be rather lethal.


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  52. As Malice says, they want you dead, but will settle for your subservience.

    That’s true for the true believers. I think most ppl with a mild lefty bent are relatively sane and sensible, and most Muslims are too. The problem in both cases is that they are vulnerable to being pushed around by the devout true believers.

    We have suffered from an excess of tolerance. Like so many things, tolerance is great in moderation, and disastrous in excess


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  53. Top Ender says:
    August 20, 2021 at 11:35 am
    Calls to suicide crisis line at 57-year high

    I was trapped in a medical waiting room for almost 3 hours this morning, with the TV tuned to “Sunrise”.
    If people watch that dross masquerading as Covid porn on a regular basis, no wonder they are considering suicide.


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  54. I was trapped in a medical waiting room for almost 3 hours this morning, with the TV tuned to “Sunrise”.
    If people watch that dross masquerading as Covid porn on a regular basis, no wonder they are considering suicide.

    A truly evil and poisonous show. Mental vomit piped around the country like the telescreen in 1984. It gets rammed down your throat in hotel dining rooms and road houses. That vile squeaky voice has forced me to eat my breakfast in another room many times.


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  55. Dover

    Just to confirm, I don’t need to hold back on any criticisms I want to level against, oh say , Cronkite etc.
    Also, can I plead with you to ban Rones because if you’re going to allow Homer and Stepford to post here you’re already dropped the average IQ of the site by 50 points. The Ronery alone would drop it another 20. This is something you can’t afford and may never recover from.


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  56. Bern:

    I get that, I really do. How does one act gentlemanly towards Stepford ( Greta No. 1 from Brisbane), or Homer Paxton? You’d need the patience of Job and quite frankly that’s not something I posses.


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  57. Apparently after having their fun in the dodgem cars video the talifucks burnt the site down. They’ve also executed some women for not wearing the burqa.

    The zombie should be in a strait jacket.


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  58. JC, Dover’s Cat is a place for gentlemanly (and lady) discourse.
    Not the street brawling of the other Cat.

    Chuckle.

    I’m just here for the articles.


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  59. calli says:
    August 20, 2021 at 5:20 pm
    JC, Dover’s Cat is a place for gentlemanly (and lady) discourse.
    Not the street brawling of the other Cat.
    Chuckle.

    I’m just here for the articles.

    I’m only here for the funnies.


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  60. I popped into the other Cat today to post Rory’s daily body count stats.
    Next time I’ll wear gumboots, lest I spoil another pair of loafers (tasselless loafers, to be sure).


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  61. Not too much in the media about today’s additional clampdown in Gulag Gladysland:

    Special powers will also be given to the NSW Police Force including:
    Power for the Commissioner of Police to lockdown apartment blocks while health assesses the COVID risk;
    Power for the Commissioner of Police to declare a residential premise a COVID-risk premise and require all people to present to police during compliance checks;
    Powers to allow police to direct a person who has been issued with an infringement notice to return to their place of residence; and
    If a person from outside an LGA of concern is found to be in an LGA of concern without a reasonable excuse, they will be fined $1000 and required to isolate at home for 14 days.
    Additional measures for Greater Sydney (including regional NSW until 28 August)
    From 12.01am Monday, 23 August, the following additional rule will also be introduced for Greater Sydney (including regional NSW until 28 August):
    Mask wearing will be mandatory when outside your home, except when exercising.

    The CCP model of welding shut the doors of apartment blocks is coming your way. Very soon.


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  62. Old School Conservative says:
    August 20, 2021 at 4:05 pm

    Top Ender says:
    August 20, 2021 at 11:35 am
    Calls to suicide crisis line at 57-year high

    I was trapped in a medical waiting room for almost 3 hours this morning, with the TV tuned to “Sunrise”.
    If people watch that dross masquerading as Covid porn on a regular basis, no wonder they are considering suicide.

    Well, my medical appointment today was yesterday shifted to be by phone. No ifs or buts, I was told, not asked.

    It finally happened about an hour late. It was only a prescription renewal, also a ridiculous requirement whereby my pain meds have to be churned through Medicare every month for a chronic condition.

    My GP was working from home becos COVID and obviously having a shit day. GPs like her are not very in control of their lives either.


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  63. Today’s main LTE submission…
    Assuming there’s a one-link limit here, the link in the letter has four spaces added so I can post the screenshot that went with the LTE via the imgur link below.

    ***
    The Editor

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration’s “Database of Adverse Event Notifications – medicines” is searchable here – https ://apps. tga. gov. au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx.

    When I looked at covid vaccines there this morning it stated; “Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 429.”

    Covid vaccinations began on February 22, so the vaccinations seem to be killing people faster than the disease.

    Why on God’s green Earth is that not front page news? Anyone?

    (67 words)

    Screenshot of TGA site – https://imgur.com/a/EVDNWFA


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  64. That was great,Winston.

    Incidentally, the Lowell stuff about the Martian canals was the first time I discovered how easy it is for honest men to fool themselves into seeing what they wanted to see. Not just Lowell but lots of his students saw the canals. And they aren’t there.

    Nowadays the same kind of people see anthropogenic global warming and covid catastrophes. Also we have much less honest men (and women) around in science and medicine these days, only too happy to tell politicians what they want to hear. Science is going downhill fast. It’s a tragedy.


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  65. I miss Mark A and his Lame Pics.

    Mark said on the Dash-Cat that he wasn’t going to provide these any more.
    No real reason.
    I miss them too. They were such good memories of different times.


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  66. That baby was being handed over by medical staff.

    What does that mean for sick babies and children in Kabul hospitals?

    I suppose I don’t want to know.


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  67. From the Daily Mail

    Special forces soldiers who faced the sack following the Brereton inquiry into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan have been told they can stay in their jobs.

    Thirteen soldiers from the Special Air Service Regiment were sent show cause notices late last year asking why they should not have their employment terminated.

    The notices were based solely on supposedly ‘credible information’ of war crimes contained within the multi-million dollar Brereton report.

    I would be very cranky and looking for compensation and apology. Careers ruined by “credible information”

    More here


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  68. The local homeless guy near me is doing okay, I’m not sure if he still has a tent behind one of the shops, I haven’t any reason to drive down the lane way but I see him all the time.

    Someone was giving him masks last year but he never wears one now.

    Good for him.


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  69. Cardimona, the number of deaths reported is not the number of deaths attributable to a vaccine. The screen shot tells you that at the top. There is a background figure of deaths that are associated with comorbidities and with other causes than any vax taken at any given time. The death rate for AZ for instance comes in at approximately one in a million people vaxxed.

    This has been well-publicised. There is enough screaming about the one in a million death from the AZ to have set Australia’s vax program behind enough to produce these awful and unnecessary lockdowns. The AZ vax is I think safer than the Pfizer, with fewer established side effects, and it is looking, on the Israeli vs the UK hospital data, as having a slighly longer lasting provision of immunity vs Delta strain.

    My 18 year old grandson rang today to say he had seen a doc and taken the AZ vax, along with his same age girlfriend. I was rather relieved that he had the AZ as I am more concerned about young people and heart inflammation with the Pfizer. There is always a concern with these vaxes, but Covid can be worse by a long shot.


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  70. My grandson, btw, was left to decide for himself re whether to take a vax or not.
    I did tell him his risk of severe Covid was not at all high and to check the figures for his risk profile. But he made his own decision, probably on the basis of not wanting to infect his girlfriend’s parents, who have kindly made him welcome in their home on a live-in basis.

    I am a bit heart-in-mouth when it comes to vaxxing the under 20’s with such new vaxxes, but accept that may have to be done to control the Delta strain and other likely strains. However, younger individuals who don’t want to have the vax should not be made pariahs because of that.


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  71. Afghan advocate mocks a war hero’s name during a fiery debate about how many refugees Australia should take in after fall of Kabul
    Victoria Cross recipient Daniel Keighran called for security checks for refugees
    He spoke of how Taliban had infiltrated Australian-Afghan forces decade ago
    Diana Sayed, a Muslim human rights activist, mocked the war veteran’s name

    Link


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  72. Should be simple enough for libertarians and conservatives to respect other people’s vaccine decisions.

    Clearly for some demographics they might make a significant difference.

    Even if you do end up needing a booster.


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  73. Old School Conservative says:
    August 20, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    Not too much in the media about today’s additional clampdown in Gulag Gladysland:

    Wow.
    The rabbit hole is about to do laps around the Earth’s core.


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  74. TE
    Why do we put up with this?

    Daniel was absolutely correct. I knew about blue on green but hadn’t read about soldiers being lead to IEDs.

    I remember a murder of a woman in Springvale years ago, there was newspaper speculation that she was Viet Cong harassing genuine refugees and no-one was saying anything.

    Don’t know if it was ever solved.


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  75. feelthebern says:
    August 20, 2021 at 9:35 am

    Thanks for the link, Bern. I got this far …
    Obama was set up to be the greatest of American heroes, but proved to be a common swindler and one of the great political liars of all time — he fooled us all.

    Nope. Not by a long shot.


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  76. Lizzie, I’ve read all those arguments, but as OSC said, there was never any attempt to call Covid deaths as coincidental with co-morbidities.

    Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, love – the same standards gotta apply.


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  77. From Bern’s link above:
    Trump won in 2016 because America preferred someone who was already a pig to someone merely on the way to being one.

    Ah, Matt Taibbi.
    Nah, I’m not gonna waste any pixels on you.


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  78. Armadillo.
    Dave of the X22report posed an interesting question.

    Will cheap and effective antiviral drugs using the Zelenko protocol also knock the flu on the head?


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  79. Will cheap and effective antiviral drugs using the Zelenko protocol also knock the flu on the head?

    ..
    One hopes not.
    The country is already labouring under the weight of millions of old geezers and biddies.
    Lifespans have increased horribly over the last 50 years.
    Carousel now!


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  80. probably on the basis of not wanting to infect his girlfriend’s parents,

    But Lizzie, being vaxxed doesn’t stop the vaxee from getting the virus and infecting others.

    From everything I’ve read and heard the vax may give the vaxee lesser effects if getting infected – and that’s all.

    Pollies and meeja have tried to tell us that the vaxxed don’t infect others as much – another yarn,


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  81. Muddy, Taibbi is a hard core lefty.
    He slags Trump at every chance he can.
    And he has a crack at the DNC, non stop.
    And he was the first person of note to call Russia-gate the biggest load of shit…bigger than WMD.
    A column like this, ripping the spineless Obama apart, would be similar to David Rowe drawing Dan Andrews, Albo, Corbyn fat & naked every day for 6 months.

    The fact that the column has the most comments of any of his sub stack by a fair margin shows in genuine journalistic circles how big it is.


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  82. What I see when I look at The Cats
    both the the Front bar and the Lounge
    is glorious and beautiful

    spaces for the voices that can’t be heard

    long live The Cat


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  83. Taibbi was in the pig pen with the media at one of those mega rallies when Trump goes, look at them, the media, the enemy of the people.
    He thought, wow, here we go.
    And when most journo’s were trying to get on the Hillary bus, Rolling Stone paid his way following Trump around the US.
    His book Insane Clown President is really a book about how he begrudgingly respected how Trump did it.
    Although he slags Trump off non stop.
    Like an angry ex girlfriend.


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  84. Rosie, in Iraq you would never trust an Iraqi further than the length of your bayonet.

    I nearly shot one once when he ducked under a bazaar counter to get his drink bottle. Which they had been told not to put anywhere but in plain sight.

    Twitchy, moi?


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  85. Trump was a pig.

    No, he wasn’t. He was blunt but very elegant and he made some of the best presidential speeches ever, made more special because unlike glib real pigs like obuma, Trump genuinely cared about the US and its people.


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  86. I believe you TE.

    A young family member had a fairly recent holiday in Iraq.

    Pretty much had to spend his entire time in the resort as no-one wanted anything bad to happen.


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  87. Evening. Saw the transcript snippets from Q&A or insight or whatever on the ABC about Kerrigan and his views in letting Afghans in. A friend who served there has exactly the same opinion, says it is cultural the shifting alliances and a necessary survival skill there. He has uttered the same words in the past, why bring it here?


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  88. “He slags Trump at every chance he can.
    And he has a crack at the DNC, non stop.
    And he was the first person of note to call Russia-gate the biggest load of shit…bigger than WMD.
    A column like this, ripping the spineless Obama apart, would be similar to David Rowe drawing Dan Andrews, Albo, Corbyn fat & naked every day for 6 months.”

    Correcto…which is why I will always respect him and Glen Greenwald and Jimmy Dore and Aaron Mate and a few others. I don’t care that they thought and think Trump is a pig…..

    1. they understood why Trump was elected back in 2017…they don’t disrespect, denounce and smear those who voted for Trump;

    2. they were and are among the few on the left to call out the venal corruption of the DNC;

    3. they were among the few on the left to call out the bullshit and lies that was Wussia gate;

    4. they were among the few on the left to call out the lie of the Ukrainian impeachment;

    5. they were among the few on the left to denounce big tech;

    6. they were among the few on the left to denounce big tech’s censorship of Donald Trump and other right-wing figures.

    I’ll take them any day….any day…over corporate MSM whores…of both the right and left.


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  89. Muddysays:
    August 20, 2021 at 7:32 pm
    feelthebern says:
    August 20, 2021 at 9:35 am

    Thanks for the link, Bern. I got this far …
    Obama was set up to be the greatest of American heroes, but proved to be a common swindler and one of the great political liars of all time — he fooled us all.

    Nope. Not by a long shot.

    He fooled only those who wanted (oh, how they wanted) to be fooled.


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  90. Gladys from this mornings stand up.

    “If we keep people out of hospital, if we keep people out of intensive care, we stop people dying, that means we are starting to live with Covid.”

    I would hazard a guess that people have been medicated for saying less loony things.
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  91. “cohenitesays:
    August 20, 2021 at 9:19 pm
    Good post Cassie.”

    Thank you…..and I have to say that we here in Oz don’t have anyone who comes to the calibre of of Glen Greenwald and Aaron Mate and Tucker Carlson and Matt Taibbi….maybe Alan Jones comes close…but Jones isn’t an investigative journalist.


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  92. Lovely day here, pruning with a batch of young backpackers. All born this century, all from NSW… tall as young kids are these days, maybe a bit soft, but conscientious and happily having a go.
    Chatting away- one youngster is trading crypto on a phone app, a young girl’s dad works for the ABC but her mum can’t stand them, another kid travelled to California for a junior surf heat before things went t!ts up and reckoned that the US in 2019 was heaven on earth. They’d all had year 12 behind a screen for periods, had school balls cancelled, and had deferred uni because they couldn’t face the heartless prospect of doing it via laptops.
    They were facebooking with mates back east, and anyone remaining was hating life. They all hated the government, thought that batflu was a snow job, the vax was for suckers, the lockdowns were harsh and pointless, the exceptions made for the high rollers were rotten, and exposed the ruling class for hypocrisy and cant.
    They even gave me a “Another thing you don’t hear much about anymore all of a sudden”- lack of any support-line announcements at the end of news items announcing the tragic death of another WZV victim, whose image and name are not used for cultural reasons. The culture being, the media do not want a questioning or sceptical culture in it’s audience, and will memory-hole any dangerous information for another eighteen months or eighteen years, rather that lose face or relinquish clout.
    I didn’t have to red-pill any of them- unlike the low-rent Dutch and Spaniards it was massive fun. Restored my faith in the next gen. I hope they vote, en bloc, for the Lib Dems.


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  93. What has happened to homeless folk during all the lockdowns and curfews?

    They get fined and / or arrested like the rest of us. Fucking pigs fined two of the local homeless. They leave the really loony bin ones alone however.


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  94. Could be a bit of groupthink- they have been travelling as a loose convoy for a while, and all get on with each other- but it’s very encouraging that they have seen through the solid media spin, all of their own accord, at a time of life when most kids would be cruising on leisure.
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  95. I hope they vote, en bloc, for the Lib Dems.

    Plenty of young people intend to do just that, including my 18 year old grandson and my 37 year old son (his uncle). They are not drinking the Kool-Aid of lockdowns, although they are both early adopters of the under 40’s AZ jabs. Gives one hope.


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  96. My wife spoke at length to her sister in the USA today. My B-I-L, former doctor, was saying the hospitals in WA and OR are at breaking point with cases, virtually ALL unvaxxed. Medical staff have said they are finding it difficult to summon up the appropriate sympathy for them. There is a huge public groundswell against the unvaxxed, particularly as kids go back to school next week after more than a year away from a classroom. I fear it could get nasty. Their back neighbours, who did not, LITERALLY, leave their house for a year, had a birthday party for one of their grandchildren last weekend. However, since two of their other grandchildren have not been vaccinated, they were not allowed in the house. The “party” was held at a park, with everyone wearing masks. Sad.


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  97. Odd, Bruce.
    WA and OR are both cold northern, solidly Democrat. I’d have thought they’d be among the most vax’ed population in the US, in states with a solid private health system too.
    I often thought in the last eighteen months that I’d like to see some custom maps- coof cases reported overlaid with political party administrating would be telling I reckon. Don’t know anyone both interested and willing to put it together?


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  98. Diana launches Category A air machine gun capable of “full auto” fire, in new .9mm calibre! Revolutionary design ensures it is legal on a Cat A licence

    By Morgan Knutz – July 7, 202151409

    Air rifle maker Diana has announced a revolutionary 0.9mm air gun that combines the firepower of a machine gun with ammo characteristics of a shotgun, and it’s a Category A firearm in Australia.

    The new Diana Model 96 MPG (or Mouse Plague Gun) uses a cartridge not unlike a shotgun shell to hold 100 0.85gr 0.9mm projectiles that are fired in a single, continuous line down the rifled barrel using gas pressure from a canister.

    The action works in a semi-automatic fashion, which is quite legal under Category A air gun laws, but Diana points out that by repeatedly squeezing the trigger the shooter can release thousands of projectiles in successive hundred-round bursts, spraying an area with deadly effect.

    Diana says the incredible new weapon was developed specifically to help Australian farmers deal with the mouse plague, and tests have shown it can mow down swarms of rodents in a shed without damaging fodder or implements.

    The inspiration for the MPG was a direct result of COVID-19 lockdowns here in Australia.

    “During lockdown, an accountant from our Australian distributor was using her Diana .177 air rifle in her back yard to shoot cane toads,” a spokesman for Diana said.

    “It was the only hunting she could do. She sent a photo — she looked very funny in camo under the Hills hoist.

    “When a mouse appeared, she shot it and that made her think of the farmers suffering in the mouse plague.

    “That’s when she came up with a new calibre of air gun, which we call the .9 COVID, suitable for tiny rodents, but she knew a break-action air rifle would be as effective in a mouse plague as Scott Morrison in a windstorm of COVID germs.”

    The employee realised that under Australian law, semi-auto air-powered firearms are Category A. She took her idea to Diana’s engineers who further developed it until they could legally mimic the effect of fully automatic fire.

    The Australian Government has fast-tracked approval of the new Diana so that farmers will at last have an effective weapon to use against the millions of mice infesting their properties.

    “Usually we rely on carefully placed anti-gun bureaucrats to ensure nothing new gets through, but in this case we’ve used a combination of forced leave and temporary promotions to get them out of the way, so approval was granted this morning,” said a spokesperson for the Attorney-General’s Department.

    The Nationals have called for the weapon to immediately be outlawed.

    “We can’t allow weapons of mass destruction to proliferate in our streets,” a party spokesman said.

    He said they were looking for ways to bring back Tim Fisher to lead their campaign.

    Yes, of course it’s satire — but if only …


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  99. Top Ender:

    I nearly shot one once when he ducked under a bazaar counter to get his drink bottle. Which they had been told not to put anywhere but in plain sight.

    Was it an assault bottle?
    You can’t be too careful…


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  100. My mate Dan’s fit sister died unexpectedly after being fully vaccinated.
    Here’s yesterday’s Cairns Post story about her, followed by today’s story.
    I talk to the journo via email occasionally (about ruinables in Douglas Shire) and I’ve sent him two thumbs up for today’s piece.

    Yesterday…
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    Shock loss of teacher
    MARK MURRAY

    Cairns school teacher and mother-of-two Sara McCarthy, 45, died suddenly in Cairns after returning from a jog. Picture: Supplied

    A FAR North family is devastated after the sudden death of a fit and healthy 45-year-old mum who collapsed on a Cairns street returning from a jog.

    Freshwater State School teacher Sara McCarthy was found unconscious on a footpath and rushed to the Gold Coast University Hospital, where she underwent emergency blood clotting procedure related to a stroke.

    She slipped into a coma and died on Friday.

    Her death has stunned her loving family, friends and the school where she was “well loved by staff, students and admired by all.”

    Ms McCarthy – a mother of two – was almost back at her front gate after a 10km run when tragedy struck.

    She was in training for a half marathon.

    Her heartbroken brother, former KAP candidate Daniel McCarthy, said the family was in a state of shock.

    “We are devastated,” he said.

    “There are many hearts and lives that she has touched and influenced in a positive way.

    “The outpouring of grief across the community just goes to show what a wonderful person Sara was.”

    Mr McCarthy said his sister was an inspiration to her children, family, friends and colleagues in 2019 when she lost 58kg following the death of their mum. She had transformed herself into a supremely fit athlete.

    “She did an amazing job through hard work and discipline,” Mr McCarthy said.

    He said the circumstances into her death were gut-wrenching. “She had a stroke while she was running,” he said.

    “Someone found her and rushed her to the hospital. She slipped into a coma on the way down to the Gold Coast and never came out.”

    Tributes are pouring in for the “best mother” who was “loved fiercely” by her two children Georgia, 14, and Jack, 12. She was the youngest of four siblings.

    “This sudden loss has shocked our community, and we want Georgia and Jack to know they have our immediate and ongoing support,” her friend Katie Williard said.

    “Sara always provided opportunities for her kids, helping them to become the independent and confident people they are today, and we know she would want them to continue doing the things they love in her absence,” she said.

    ***
    Today…
    ***

    Probe into jog death
    MARK MURRAY

    FRIENDS, family and colleagues of a fit and healthy Far North primary school teacher have called for an investigation into her sudden death.

    Cairns mother-of-two Sara McCarthy had a stroke and collapsed after a jog on August 4.

    The 45-year-old (right) was flown to a Gold Coast hospital where she had emergency blood clot procedures but never recovered. She died on Friday, August 13.

    Ms McCarthy – who was training for a half marathon – had complained of severe back pain leading up to her death. She had been fully vaccinated, having her second dose of Pfizer on July 28.

    Federal health authorities have issued a new warning to the product information of the Comirnaty (Pfizer) vaccine and possible “inflammation of the heart” and “of the membrane around the heart” as a rare side effect of the jab which may occur “within 10 days of vaccination”.

    The conditions, known as myocarditis and pericarditis, can in severe cases lead to stroke or heart attack due to blood clots forming in the heart.

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration has received 188 reports of suspected myocarditis and/ or pericarditis following vaccinations with Pfizer as of August 15. A spokeswoman said there had been no reported fatal cases of myocarditis in Australia as being linked to the Pfizer dose.

    News Corp is not suggesting Ms McCarthy died as a result of the Pfizer vaccine, only that there are investigations into possible links between its side effects and, in rare cases, stroke and other heart conditions.

    “She had extreme back pain on the same day she had the second Pfizer shot,” friend Kate Willard said. “Sometimes extreme pain can be an indicator of stroke, but we just don’t know.”

    A Queensland Coroners Court spokesman said Ms McCarthy’s death had been reported to the Northern Coroner “and will be investigated accordingly”.

    Ms McCarthy’s brother, Daniel Mc-Carthy, said the exact cause of his sister’s death was in the hands of the coroner.

    “We need to wait and let the experts do their job, and we’ll deal with whatever the outcome is,” he said.


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