Open Thread – Weekend 28 Aug 2021


Massacre of the Innocents, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, c. 1565-67

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  1. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    🙂 😀 :-/ 😉

  2. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    ” adding it was not representative of any faith or community.”

    LOL. As I wrote earlier….the stabbing will just go into the forgettery. Who remembers Maurice and Zoe Antill? Remember how quickly that was filed into the forgettery? An elderly couple who had their throats slashed by a rodent adherent of the scummy religion of pieces.

  3. JC Avatar

    Drills

    I’m just a little curious here. On the old blog you mentioned a few times that if caught out with a terminal illness, one of your actions , immediately after hearing such very, very sad news, would be to arm-up, load-up. then head to the bank and take out the bank staff for not lending money.

    Here though, you appear to be very agitated over the loon stabbing people in the NZ supermarket.

    Can you explain how his action and your promised one are so qualitatively different that they cannot be compared?
    I’m confused here. I’m guessing that you have a problem with religious based murders whereas as if it’s to do with money (in this case loans) it’s much different and therefore justified. Am I on the right track here? Thanks.

  4. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    ScoMo on his vaccine swap with the UK

    “From Downing Street to Down Under, we’re doubling down”

    We’ve got a special needs PM.
    Not the full two Bob.

  5. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Crossie

    It’s a little early in the piece to be counting him out. We’re opening by December people won; be so upset after. It’s how I think it may go.

    All the small business operators who have and will go bankrupt are not likely to forget or forgive, nor will their families and friends.

    Then think of all the poor people who couldn’t get to see their doctors and now have far worse medical problems than COVID.

    Then all those parents who have been driven up the wall by having to work at home and homeschool their kids.

    Then all those people who couldn’t go to funerals of loved ones and friends, see then in hospital or provide comfort in their dying days.

    Then all those grandparents who were deprived of their grandchildren, missed out on special moments and milestones even if they were only in the next street.

    Shall I continue?

  6. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I’m struggling with how much it will have cost NZ to have a squad of armed plod following this thing’s every move for the past years.

    Three shifts a day, every day, for five years.

    And he’s not the only one.

    Just last month Ardern’s government rejected a $50 per week benefit increase for families on welfare.

    That’s their prerogative, to be sure, but Ardern came to office campaigning that NZ children were starving “in their hundreds of thousands” under John Key.

  7. JC Avatar

    The Liberal Party is Craig Kelly.

    No joke, but isn’t Craig Kelly doing ads for the UAP at the moment. Man, Craigie is not a good looking dude. Ugly schnauzer comes to mind.

  8. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    No. I’m talking about Scott Sumner –

    JC, scott Sumner didn’t write a book called the money illusion. What book are you talking about?

  9. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
    September 3, 2021 at 6:02 pm
    I think the lieboral party is a lost cause.
    The Liberal Party is Craig Kelly.
    As said in The Australian today by Henry Ergas, Craig Kelly is a tide marker, that shows how far the modern liberal party has slipped from where it used to be.

    No wonder Slomo & co loathe Kelly.

    For forty years I voted only Liberal and along comes Turnbull and ScoMo and no more.

  10. JC Avatar

    Crossie

    Why is that any of the Federal Liberal Party’s (direct) fault?

    Don’t get me wrong as this is quite possible especially in the fucked in the head state of Victoria.

    People could vote in droves against the Feds because of the lockdown while people vote in droves for the Hunchback because of the lockdowns and “keeping us safe”.

    Do you think, I’m catching the mood here? 🙂

  11. A Suggestion Avatar
    A Suggestion

    DrBeauGan:
    Too many ppl happy to be looked after.

    The long march of Civilisation in human affairs is a steady easing of the burden of making a living. Each generation makes it easier for the following generation to exist. So the agricultural revolution resulted in fewer people needing to work to achieve the same or better results in harvest as an example.

    If this premise is taken to be true, why then the disapproval of people justly taking advantage of the advance of civilisation to not work and be “looked after”.

    Further, the Western “Capitalist” system encourages winner takes all behaviour. This means that some actively seek to disadvantage others. This results in any life failure being a failure for life. Loss of “assets” for the vast majority of people is irreversible.

    The “Democratic” governance system is at last seen for what it is. A corrupt winner takes all system where rich persons can buy politicians and politicians have no respect or duty to their electorate.

    There is no honour here.
    There is no respect here.
    There is no security here.

    There is only endless corruption and lawlessness.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – They all say we’re opening up by December.

    But on the arc we’re going by December we’ll be having 10,000 positive tests a day and the deaths will be at least double figures, possibly triple figures. All those elderly which the flu hasn’t been carrying off for over a year are still ready to be carried off, vaccination or no vaccination.

    The Western Sydney problem is out of control because the locals are ignoring and actually evading the quarantine restrictions. Gladys can’t stop that from happening without bringing in the ADF and basically starting a war.

    So I do rather doubt we’ll be opening up any time soon. The pollies’ have dug their hole ‘way too deeply for that. Maybe they’ll try, but the pressure on them to Do Something will become immense, and we all know what they will default to doing in such a circumstance.

  13. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “No joke, but isn’t Craig Kelly doing ads for the UAP at the moment. Man, Craigie is not a good looking dude. Ugly schnauzer comes to mind.”

    I’ve met Craig numerous times. He a very nice man, ebullient, polite, sense of humour, middle Australia…which is why he made his seat of Hughes (which borders Scummo’s seat of Cook) a safe Liberal seat. Craig represents everything the Liberal party once stood for…Menzies’ values…small business, free speech, liberty, individual responsibility, aspiration. The party no longer represents any of that. What Scumbag Morrison did to Kelly in February of this year was shameful. He sided with Labor against one of his own. Kelly is a backbencher and the Liberal party has a long history of mavericks…but no, that despicable Morrison chose to side with Labor to censure and silence Kelly….the left have loathed Kelly for years because of his stance on “climate change” and now Covid.

  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    great to see Augusto posting here

    Definitely.

    And now for a piece of, let me see now, what is it? Ah, yes ‘style over substance’.

    Our travertine stone tiling on our verandahs and enclosures has been cut, laid, grouted and now sealed with something that smells noxious but works a treat. Shiny now and it brings out the coloration variability in the stone, lending a slightly medieval feel to it. Wonderful. So there is a great sense of style, and given that it’s quite a hefty stone, quite a lot of substance too, truth be told.

    We halted work during the period of two neighbours kids’ trial HSC exams done at home.
    I am well up on the timetables of this year’s Year 11 and Year 12 subjects and testings.
    Poor kids have enough to put up with during lockdown and don’t need added noise as well.

  15. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    Doc, here:

    Not on Kindle. There’s a pathetic book called The Money Illusion by another bloke, and there’s a book by Sumner with Midas in the title. But he’s either wrong or not on Amazon.

  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    but the pressure on them to Do Something will become immense, and we all know what they will default to doing in such a circumstance.

    They could try protecting the elderly instead. What a novel idea. Extra contactless support services to those elderly people at home who don’t want to go out to places of exposure. Well worth a bit of money spent on those in place of horrendously expensive and draining lockdowns.

  17. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    He’s not on Kindle. The book does exist, although it’s got a much longer title.

  18. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I’m struggling with how much it will have cost NZ to have a squad of armed plod following this thing’s every move for the past years.

    That occured to me too.
    Let’s say it is a crew of two watching him.
    Hours required 365 x 24 x 2 heads = 17,520 hours.
    Given a standard working year of 1650 hours per person after leave, training, yada yada, that requires 11 FTEs.

  19. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    So I do rather doubt we’ll be opening up any time soon.

    Mss. Palaszczuk & Young agree with you, Bruce.

    On the other side of the ledger, it seems to me that Andrews is taking a rather sadistic delight in threatening the unvaxxed with loss of freedoms.

    Politics attracts the weirdest of people.

    That’ll be our downfall.

  20. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Horseface:

    What happened today was despicable, it was hateful it was wrong,” Ms Ardern said in a news conference. “It was carried out by an individual, not a faith.”

    She added that she was “absolutely gutted” to hear about the attack.

    There is no ISIS, Al-qaeda or any other terrorist group, there is only islam. Ardern is a traitor and/or a fool, typical of our ‘leaders’; what a pity she wasn’t literally gutted like the 6 other poor bastards who will be comfited by horseface’s assertion that is was just a nut and not a faith who rearranged their intestines.

  21. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    it seems to me that Andrews is taking a rather sadistic delight in threatening the unvaxxed with loss of freedoms.

    It tells you what a nasty shit he is. A thorough-going politician, with a firm conviction that he has the right to tell everyone what to do. And who really enjoys doing it.

  22. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    Last week, it emerged that the Federal Department of Health had rewritten a guide to COVID-19 vaccinations for pregnant women by deleting the word “women” and replacing it with “people who are pregnant, breastfeeding or planning pregnancy”.

    This was another clear example of how this woke, anti-women ideology has infiltrated Australia’s public service.

    Today, success! The guide has been re-issued and once again refers to women and mothers, as it should.

    I wish they left the guide as it was. I could seek vaccine exemption as a “person planning pregnancy.”

    The fact that I’m (a) Old, and (b) a bloke wouldn’t matter, I can identify as anything I want.

  23. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Ardern is a traitor and/or a fool,”

    She’s a fool….and that makes her more dangerous.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Mss. Palaszczuk & Young agree with you, Bruce.

    Wince…

    Politics attracts the weirdest of people.

    Not me, I’ve learnt my limitations. Birds and animals and science I can do, not people.
    Now back to my novel, taking refuge in fiction appeals to me right now.
    Reality is increasingly distasteful.

  25. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    If this premise is taken to be true, why then the disapproval of people justly taking advantage of the advance of civilisation to not work and be “looked after”.

    I grant your premise; we are the heirs to the hard work of our ancestors and it has made us wealthy beyond comprehension. But that has nothing to do with wanting to be looked after. It might have led to a flourishing of arts and science as people revelled in their affluence, to a free and independent spirit. We’ve got the opposite.

    Capitalism isn’t a theory of economics. It’s nothing more than government letting people trade with minimal restrictions. Moralising about it is the infallible mark of the undeveloped mind.

  26. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    Bugger.

  27. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Reality is increasingly distasteful.

    That it is.

    My refuge is history and theology.

    They grant perspective.

  28. Dot Avatar

    What a smug woman.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/welcome-to-my-nightmare-one-gp-s-adventures-with-anti-vaxxers-and-their-infodemic-20210902-p58o2g.html

    So she intentionally brings up the dumbest arguments against vaccination and then expects other educated people who don’t agree with her to just shut up?

    Despicable.

    How does she explain away any of the insane nonsense Fauci has spouted such as wearing multiple face masks or booster shots every five months after shots 1 & 2; let alone degrading crap like anal swabbing in China?

    It is perfectly reasonable to demand a traditional attenuated virus vaccine.

  29. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Andrews openly talked about mandatory vaccinations for people who won’t voluntarily get the jab.
    This precious toddler is throwing a tantrum because his lockdown has failed and he didn’t get to boast it in front of ScoMo and Gladys, so now he’s taking his anger out on citizens.
    No football
    No Pub
    No Clubs
    No restaurant
    A psychological assessment to be made of TaliDan.

  30. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    Reality is for people who can’t handle drugs

  31. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    Scott Morrison @ScottMorrisonMP
    ·
    1h
    Australia is now only 2 million first doses away from achieving the 70% first dose vaccination coverage. Every vaccination brings us closer to the freedoms we enjoy.

    So let’s get this done by getting your jab today!

    Dr Zelenko in his interview with Craig Kelly got Morrison exactly right when he called him a prostitute who had sold out the country he had been elected to protect.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    My refuge is history and theology.

    Them too Roger. Currently been reading Hosea. Hos. 6:2 is one of my favorites. Also have a bookmark in the first vol of the account of the AIF fighting against the Japanese, but that is a bit too real and painful for me to want to get back into just yet.

  33. Dot Avatar

    *Every vaccination brings us closer to the freedoms we enjoy.*

    Stage managed crap designed to make it look like you had a plan all along, didn’t make it up as you went along and didn’t panic on the most inaccurate and incompetent of forecasts.

  34. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Also have a bookmark in the first vol of the account of the AIF fighting against the Japanese, but that is a bit too real and painful for me to want to get back into just yet.

    Yes, there are no doubt good reasons why my grandfather would never talk about that.

    I’ve since pieced together some of the history from his service record.

    The greatest generation.

  35. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    “I’m not comfortable with any deaths that are preventable. So that’s why I want every single Queenslander who can be vaccinated to get vaccinated because that is the best protection, and that’s why I’ve spent the last 19 months doing everything I can.”

    This is a massive lie. If she were really interested in saving lives she would be advocating every cure, not simply advocating experimental vaccines with serious side effects.

  36. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    *Every vaccination brings us closer to the freedoms we enjoy.*

    Stage managed crap designed to make it look like you had a plan all along, didn’t make it up as you went along and didn’t panic on the most inaccurate and incompetent of forecasts.

    It’s actually much worse than that because, if they get their way, we will never be free again. It will always be just as much as they permit at the time. That is not freedom.

    A vaccine passport system means that we will forever be bound to do what we’re told simply to retain access to the most basic things in life.

  37. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    A vaccine passport system means that we will forever be bound to do what we’re told simply to retain access to the most basic things in life.

    A bureaucrat’s wet dream.

  38. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closuresays:
    September 3, 2021 at 6:00 pm
    I’m struggling with how much it will have cost NZ to have a squad of armed plod following this thing’s every move for the past years.

    Not quite every move. The watchers seem to have been having a day off today.

  39. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Rogersays:
    September 3, 2021 at 7:56 pm
    Also have a bookmark in the first vol of the account of the AIF fighting against the Japanese, but that is a bit too real and painful for me to want to get back into just yet.

    Yes, there are no doubt good reasons why my grandfather would never talk about that.

    I’ve since pieced together some of the history from his service record.

    The greatest generation.

    Check if the War Diaries of his unit are on-line at the AWM website. They cover (in varying detail) the day to day activities of each unit. They have been digitising them for some years now, starting with combat arms units. I’m not cure how far they have got, but you might be lucky.

  40. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Not quite every move. The watchers seem to have been having a day off today.

    Ah, no, BJ.
    They were there and popped him off within a minute or two.
    Which actually proves the point that even tight surveillance is no prevention.

  41. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    those elderly people at home who don’t want to go out to places of exposure.

    What is the difference between alabaster and gypsum?

  42. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Rex giving it to Bird on Dash-Cat and drawing the usual suspects in behind Bird.
    Rex could just be a blog wrecker!

  43. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    What is the difference between alabaster and gypsum?

    Carving.

    Alabaster is yummy.

  44. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Alabaster is yummy.

    absolutist

  45. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    MT – Of course. I’ve at least two, maybe three I forget, patents to my name which centre on the use of gypsum. But gypsum isn’t pretty. Alabaster is pretty.

  46. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    New Fred everyone!

  47. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    You do know there’s new OT.

    Don’t you?

  48. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Ok gypsum can be pretty, I admit. Those crystal caves in Mexico are otherworldly.

  49. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    I used to have an alabaster ash-tray back in the 80’s

  50. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Sancho Panzer

    Ah, no, BJ.
    They were there and popped him off within a minute or two.
    Which actually proves the point that even tight surveillance is no prevention.

    Thanks. I wonder what Horse face will do next?

  51. Winston Smith Avatar

    Arky:

    I’ve talked to JC and he has agreed to bake me some scones and start crocheting a tea cosy.

    I’m curious about the colours and patterns, Arky.
    These are important matters.

  52. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    Hi BoN what do I feed magpies ?

    .22 pellets 🙂

  53. dover0beach Avatar

    Tom Elliott again frothing at the mouth about vaccine passports. He loves them. He can’t understand unions being suspicious about compulsory vaccinations. Of course, he is ‘personally’ opposed to them but if the rest of the world is instituting and if ‘freedom’ requires them then so be it.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/sicktoria/2021/09/i-couldnt-be-prouder-of-them/

    I hope those words come back to haunt Reischfuhrer Bunter.

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