Open Thread – Weekend 28 Aug 2021


Massacre of the Innocents, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, c. 1565-67

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Bruce in WA
September 3, 2021 12:27 am

Well there you go. Just watched the end credits rolling for the Dirty Harry movie “Magnum Force” — and they misspell the lead character’s name!

Yep. “Harry Callahan” is shown as “Harry Calahan”.

Quelle horreur!

OK everyone, normal bitchy arguments may resume.

Bruce in WA
September 3, 2021 12:27 am

Aaaaand … top o’ the page to yez all.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 3, 2021 1:27 am

@Dot

There is no way that I would ever serve under the Communist Big Union captured Eureka Flag.

You have at it all you like.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 3, 2021 1:33 am
Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 3, 2021 1:49 am

Late to the party on this, but it’s an important issue.

A sand wedge should be your ‘go to’ club in such matters.
Come on mate. Where’s your innate patriotism and love of country?
Cricket bats are the best. Solid, great defence weapon too, and the sound of willow on bone is the most satisfying auditory stimulus one can imagine.
Of course they sit next to the front door ready for a quick game of French cricket with the grandkids.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 3, 2021 1:51 am

LOL.. I’m flooded here at the moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMMTPt4OtG4

Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:02 am
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
September 3, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:07 am
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Tom
September 3, 2021 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 4:17 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 5:32 am

This article is a couple of weeks only, but caught my eye.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-cdc-only-tracks-a-fraction-of-breakthrough-covid-19-infections-even-as-cases-surge?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations&utm_content=river

The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge
A May 1 decision by the CDC to only track breakthrough infections that lead to hospitalization or death has left the nation with a muddled understanding of COVID-19’s impact on the vaccinated.

The CDC has gone out of its way to muddy the water when it comes to the data.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 5:34 am

Couple of weeks old.
Not only.
Another side effect of Pfizer, it impacts your capacity to spell.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 5:37 am

I get the ProPublica email as it digs up a lot of Wall Street rorts.
But it’s an extreme left organisation.
For them to be casting doubt on any vaccine related is a big change for them.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 6:25 am

Andy Ngo overnight has reported the following about a MAN, with male genitalia intact, who exposed himself at Wi Spa back in June of this year…..

“In June, a woman alleged a person exposed their penis to women and girls at Wi Spa. Liberal press declared it a transphobic hoax. Antifa assaulted people who protested the spa. The story was supposed to go away but I investigated and found charges were discreetly filed. The suspect is a registered sex offender and has other pending felony sex crime charges. “

The feisty woman who was filmed in the video confronting Wi Spa staff about this pervert also insists that HE had an erection….so it’s clear…..this pervert was identifying as female in order to access female only spaces where woman and girls are naked and HE was walking around naked with an erection.

Why was here there? You couldn’t make this up. Nothing to see here folks.

Ngo reports there’s silence from the MSM because the facts don’t fit the narrative, one of which is that situations like the above will never happen.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 6:27 am

Oh and further to the pervert above…being California he’s unlikely to be convicted but if he does go to prison…wanna bet he’ll be sent to a women’s only prison?

LOL. Except none of this is funny.

rosie
rosie
September 3, 2021 6:28 am

CDC estimated that up to four times as many people had covid as there were positive tests, looks like most people will get one variant or another, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

rosie
rosie
September 3, 2021 6:33 am

From cdc website
“1 in 4.2 (95% UI* 3.6 – 4.9) COVID–19 infections were reported.
1 in 3.8 (95% UI* 3.4 – 4.3) COVID–19 symptomatic illnesses were reported.
1 in 1.8 (95% UI* 1.6 – 2.0) COVID–19 hospitalizations were reported.
1 in 1.3 (95% UI* 1.30 – 1.34) COVID-19 deaths were reported.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 6:35 am

Another win for the steely-eyed, granite-jawed not-putting-up-with-that-nonsense Queenslanders.

The entire country (yes, I know) is at least talking about reopening fully for business, according to the noos.

Except for Queensland, where doubling down is now considered as mandatory as idolising Cameron Smith.

Pallashay says no. Not only no, she says 2000 deaths per month in Queensland alone will happen unless people start treating her nicely.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 6:37 am

looks like most people will get one variant or another, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

Yes rosie. That has been my take-away for a long time now.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 6:41 am

Why was here there?

Simples. An exhibitionist pervert. How old fashioned of me.

There was one who used to lurk around the back of my daughters’ school. He’d leap out and expose himself, then melt back into the bushland. They knew what it was all about.

Odd that these sophisticates can’t work it out. Perhaps they aren’t as smart as they think they are.

srr
srr
September 3, 2021 6:43 am

Transgender 3-year-old Tried to Cut off ‘her’ Penis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nOEM1GxuKU
Sep 3, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

rosie
rosie
September 3, 2021 6:48 am

#metoo calli

Which is why I’m dubious about but Diamond Princess.
Disease doesn’t spread 1 to 4000 in a day, it takes time and contact and once the DP was docked people were confined to cabins for two weeks.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 6:49 am

“Why was here there?”

I should rephrase that…..”Why was HE allowed in there”…to me this shows the complete moral collapse and ongoing lunacy that is progressivism…..and which is running amok in the west.

132andBush
132andBush
September 3, 2021 6:51 am

CDC estimated that up to four times as many people had covid as there were positive tests, looks like most people will get one variant or another, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

I think it’s a rather inconvenient fact about the narrative.
Not new news.

Link

Dot
Dot
September 3, 2021 6:55 am

*There is no way that I would ever serve under the Communist Big Union captured Eureka Flag.

You have at it all you like.*

It has nothing to do with communism. It was a tax and fair trial rebellion that led to Parliamentary democracy and self government.

Communist potatoes can go eat sweet corn and Tide pods.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 6:56 am

people were confined to cabins for two weeks.

In Yokohama, in winter. The aircon would be running flat chat. Some got sick, others didn’t.

The Curious Case of the Diamond Princess. 😀

Dot
Dot
September 3, 2021 6:56 am

Bern, please.

That’s not how you jive, Turkey.

Mater
September 3, 2021 7:12 am

CDC estimated that up to four times as many people had covid as there were positive tests, looks like most people will get one variant or another, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

Quick, someone slip over to Jo Novas site and let her know.
She made a guest appearance here on FlashCat to make the opposite inference, in response to my post:

“Given that we were testing 30 to 1000 people to find one case of Covid, its likely there were far fewer undetected cases. So while the CFR graphs are very interesting they don’t mean what they seem.”

When you get masses, of the same crowd*, rolling up to get tested, a few days off work, and a couple of hundred bucks, it doesn’t necessarily mean that your being more effective at identifying cases.

I know individuals that have been tested 20+ times during this rock show. I haven’t been tested once. Smoke and mirrors.

*A mix of the neurotic, lazy…and those who needed it to attend work.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 7:13 am

Mr. Panzer, overnight:

Dan is finding out (again) that double-crossing a Grik chick has consequences.

Oh, my wordy lordy yes. The Hun:

Former health minister Jenny Mikakos has taken a swipe at the state’s chief health officer at a parliamentary inquiry, saying there would be a time when Victorians would know “the truth in all matters”.

In surprising testimony on Thursday, she backed a royal commission into the pandemic response and said there was an appetite across all political divides for governments to be examined.

Not that surprising, really. Mikakos was yammering at SlugGate, but took the chance to have a decent (and deserved) crack. She pointed out, off-topic but on-point, that the governmental enquiry into contact tracing cockups chose not to have her speak at it. And:

“There hasn’t been any re-examination of issues related to the Coate (hotel quarantine) inquiry, either.

“I’m mindful of the fact that there is currently litigation on foot relating to the state’s pandemic response and it’s yet to be resolved. I do bear that in mind in terms of what I say about these matters.”

But Ms Mikakos then went further, saying she was committed to the people of Victoria “knowing the truth in all matters”. “I believe there will come a time when that may be able to occur, whether that’s in a court of law or potentially a federal royal commission,” she said.

She finished up by volunteering to drive the bus Andrews and Sutton will go under:

“There’s clearly some people across the political divide who think these issues need to be looked at more deeply, and I will certainly support those moves and be happy to participate in any such royal commission.”

If you’re going to upset the Mediterranean ladeeeeees, you’d best do it from a long, way away. And behind a moat and portcullis, if possible.

Mater
September 3, 2021 7:22 am

Former health minister Jenny Mikakos has taken a swipe at the state’s chief health officer at a parliamentary inquiry, saying there would be a time when Victorians would know “the truth in all matters”.

If she had any guts, she’d let us know the “truth” RIGHT NOW whilst it still does matter!

We are being destroyed, kids are offing themselves, and she’s threatening to tell the truth and bring them down…at a later date? Fuck!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 3, 2021 7:25 am

I have the feeling that Mikakos would like to shave Betty Sutton with a serrated bread knife.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 3, 2021 7:28 am

The Courier-Mail has a giant headline on its front page today:

PREMIER’S FAKE NEWS
JESSICA MARSZALEK, MATTHEW KILLORAN, MADURA MCCORMACK

COVID DEATH FEARS DON’T ADD UP

Palaszczuk slammed for use of selective worst-case data to ‘mislead’ on virus future

PREMIER Annastacia Palaszczuk has been accused of misrepresenting the Covid deaths Australia faces by extrapolating worst-case scenario scientific modelling to warn of an impending body count despite vaccinations.

In a highly charged parliamentary performance, Ms Palaszczuk relied on a single graph to warn that: “Doherty Institute modelling predicts that even with 70 per cent of the population vaccinated, 80 people will die each day from Covid once the outbreak reaches six months after it started – that is 2240 who will die each month.”

But her claims of mass deaths under the national plan were blasted as “false, misleading and wrong” by federal Health Minister Greg Hunt, who said “with optimal public health measures and no lockdowns” the Doherty modelling actually forecast just 13 deaths over six months.

sfw
sfw
September 3, 2021 7:29 am

James Delingpole has a pretty good podcast, in the last twelve months he’s becoming fairly radical in some peoples eyes. His latest podcast is a cracker, well worth a listen, it’s rather terrifying but there’s good advice as well.

https://delingpole.podbean.com/e/dan-tubb/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 7:34 am

Ugh, after giving Francis a plug yesterday for saying something good I find today he’s back to his old ways.

Mater
September 3, 2021 7:38 am

Dover, if you’re reading this, a suggestion/request.
What about reducing the quote format back to that of the old Cat?
When you quote something, it really blows out the size of the post, and takes away the ability to bold something.

IIRC, the Old Cat used to indent and italicise it and keep the same font size.

Just a suggestion. Putting’ it out there. Ta.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 7:44 am

Mater, gets it.
Everyone else drink your coffee & sharpen up.
If the data is deliberately being made to the horseshit, don’t believe any of it.

This is the key one.
1 in 1.8 (95% UI* 1.6 – 2.0) COVID–19 hospitalizations were reported.

Considering the CARES act gave a federal funding bump for every COVID admission & they were literally discharging & re-admitting the same patients, there is no chance this number is right.
Maybe even invert it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 7:49 am

The US state department impeded private groups getting thousands of people out of Afghanistan.
Google “pineapple express” and see what those guys did in the last couple of weeks.
Unfortunately, there is little chance of uber lefties Judd Apatow & Seth Rogen letting them use the name in what will have to be made into a movie.
In a similar vein to 13 Hours, not the horse shit Obama propaganda like Zero Dark Thirty.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 7:51 am

I know individuals that have been tested 20+ times during this rock show. I haven’t been tested once. Smoke and mirrors.

I’m slow this morning. Makes the testing and “case” numbers meaningless as to what’s happening in the wider community? i.e. the samples are tainted because they aren’t representative since they’re self-selected?

Hmmm.

P
P
September 3, 2021 7:54 am

JONAH’S PRAYER
by Erica Brown
9 . 2 . 21

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 7:54 am

Mater – Also the Covid test is semi-voluntary, in that you have to go get it done. A lot of the inhabitants of “problem” suburbs like Bankstown, Greenacre and Auburn are not going to get a test done, are going avoid plod like the plague, and don’t want Gladys to know what they are up to. Hence the concentration of cases in those areas.

You will not get a good picture of exactly who is or has been infected in such places without the boys in blue going door to door and physically holding people down and sticking a probe up their noses. And if they tried doing that it’d start an actual war.

I was amused by this report on local Ncl news I saw yesterday:

Sydney Tree Loppers Test Positive to Covid in the Hunter (1 Sep)

The reporter interviewed the guy by phone and you can hear his accent quite clearly. Definitely from a demographic which supplies many wukkas to the informal arborist industry…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 3, 2021 7:56 am

Wouldn’t mind a bit of rain anytime now.
The Mallee boys really need a drink. Birchip is about an hours drive from me and they’ve only had 150mm for the year compared to our 300mm.
Hopetoun 134
Swan Hill 112
Mildura 132
And for KD – Warracknabeal 235.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 8:01 am

And for KD – Warracknabeal 235.

Hahaha. Well, I dropped enough geographical hints over time. Lucky nobody here knows my last name.

Unless, of course, they look up ‘Gutnick’ in the phone book and join the dots.

Wait. Forget I said anything.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 8:02 am

It was probably the line about Boston buns at the Minyip bakery that brought me undone.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 3, 2021 8:05 am

Warracknabeal
Nick Cave and KD.
Strangely makes sense.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 8:07 am

Never mention Nick Cave’s eyebrows and bumper crops in the same sentence.

People get the wrong ideas.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 8:08 am

I am Nick Cave.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 3, 2021 8:08 am

exclusive
House That! Spud King Tony Galati buys $6.2 million Mosman Park home after 60th birthday ‘reality check’
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Kim Macdonald
The West Australian
Fri, 3 September 2021 2:00AM
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Kim Macdonald

Spud Shed king Tony Galati has finally jumped on the property ladder, buying his first home at 60 years of age.

The famously hardworking farmer-turned-retailer — who takes only two annual leave days a year for Christmas and Easter — has this month bought a $6.2 million home in Mosman Park.

Mr Galati has never splurged on luxuries in the past, telling House That! a few years ago he had no interest in ever buying a fancy car, clothes or his own home.

Although his business assets, including farms and commercial properties, are worth tens of millions of dollars, he has never owned the roof over his head.

For a long time he lived at the home owned by his ex-partner Sindy Goodhew, before more recently renting a unit in North Fremantle.

His low-key approach seemed apparent in every facet of his life, down to his trademark outfit. When he last year turned up to a photo shoot with a large rip in his shorts, he explained his other pair was in the wash.

But his milestone birthday this year prompted a change of heart, claiming he now wants to enjoy some of the fruits of his labour.

“Turning 60 was a wake-up call for me,” he said.

The original “Millionaire Next Door?”

Tom
Tom
September 3, 2021 8:09 am

Ngo reports there’s silence from the MSM because the facts don’t fit the narrative, one of which is that situations like the above will never happen.

And that tells you why 90% of journalists shouldn’t be journalists: they’re all lefties and the aggressive, 21st century version of leftism has turned them into activists who won’t report on anything that doesn’t fit a pre-determined political narrative.

The old saying is that news is something, somewhere that someone doesn’t want you to know about and the rest is advertising.

Good journalists love finding out what really happened. It’s why they get up and go to work in the morning.

Ninety per cent of 21st century journalists aren’t interested in what really happened unless it advances their fantasy of what they think the world should be like.

Ninety per cent of 21st century journalists are allergic to the truth.

Mater
September 3, 2021 8:10 am

You will not get a good picture of exactly who is or has been infected in such places without the boys in blue going door to door and physically holding people down and sticking a probe up their noses.

Correct, and just clarify my issue with Jo’s comments on my analysis. I acknowledge the issue of undetected cases. However, to imply that what happened in this regard in 2009 was significantly different to now, is being a little bit mendacious. The difference is certainly not enough to counter the enormous difference in the CFR’s, among the younger crowd.

To infer that the government exaggerates Flu figures every year to encourage vaccination, but then put trust in the government Covid figures, seems ill-advised and inconsistent.

Either way, the figures I used are those that would have been provided to the politicians and the Health Officers. My graphs are what they should have been seeing. The difference between 2009 and now are stark, but they continued on with this devastating course regardless. My point stands, they didn’t lock us up in 2009, and we shouldn’t be locked up now.

min
min
September 3, 2021 8:17 am

The more I observe what is going on out there the more I am convinced the two greatest Social Psychology experiments , now banned on ethical grounds so cannot be repeated, are in play for real . Stanley Milgram’s authoritarian and obedience experiment and Philip Zimbardo’s Stanford experiment on jailer and prisoners .
The majority of the population obey the orders , whimper a little about the psychological effects but are complicit in damaging the health of others . Just like in Milgram’s experiment where they administered electric shocks strong enough to kill when instructed by a person of authority. Some jailers just like in Zimbardo’s experiment, enjoy the power , inflict pain and suffering on the prisoners . Name one CMO who has not made unbelievably cruel decisions for some groups whilst leaning over backwards for others .
No matter how much decent humans point out what is happening and the consequences, the majority of human behaviour can be explained in those two classic experiments.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 3, 2021 8:21 am

ZK2A
Sneakers and Quigley will be around with a fiddle-leaf fig soon.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 8:26 am

“Ninety per cent of 21st century journalists aren’t interested in what really happened unless it advances their fantasy of what they think the world should be like.

Ninety per cent of 21st century journalists are allergic to the truth.”

Liberty quotes Tom.

About six years ago their ABC did a fawning piece on a gay male couple and their adopted male child, I think it was in QLD. It emerged, not too long after their ABC’s feel good piece that the couple were pedophiles and were abusing the boy sexually. I remember reading that the ABC journalist, a female journalist, said how shocked she was and how she never saw anything untoward about the couple and the situation with the child….well of course she didn’t because she deliberately blindfolded herself to reality and truth. She only wanted to see and write about a narrative that suited her specious ideology. It’s progressivism to a tee

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 8:28 am

Sweden has started banning people from a range of countries due to COVID.
Israel is on the list.
Bing-Bong.
Please do not get on plane.
Bing-Bong.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 3, 2021 8:31 am

“Sweden has started banning people from a range of countries due to COVID.
Israel is on the list.”

Thanks for the morning belly laugh, feelthebern.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 3, 2021 8:32 am

Suppose there was a virus which caused no real noticeable effects except maybe a slight temperature and mild headache for less than 24 hours. Would anyone care how many were carrying it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 3, 2021 8:35 am

The old saying is that news is something, somewhere that someone doesn’t want you to know about and the rest is advertising.

Rip and read used to be a term of derision.
It’s now the industry standard.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 8:35 am

Branco’s cartoon is sooo on point.

All that nonsense during Biden’s campaign “Build Back Better” and he only instance he can legitimately claim is having made the Taliban stronger than they ever were.

“Build Back Better.” If that slogan appealed to anyone they would have to be complete simpletons with only a marginal grasp of English. It is simple and alliterates, but it does not read properly.

Build back? Build what back. In English, even if the context makes clear what the object is, we use a pronoun. “Build it back…” And what is this ‘Back’? We might say “Build it back up” or “Build it back to…”.

“Make America Great Again” reads as an imperative or an exhortation. Regardless of what you think of the sentiment or the speaker, it is at the very least properly formed.

What kind of person does not find ‘Build Back Better” jarring? I understand that Joe is a moron and needs mnemonics, the ‘BBB’ initials from his slogan matches the sound when he plays with his lip while making a sustained sound ‘B-b-b-…’ like a toddler, and they could hardly give him “Build it back up better”, since he would mangle it along the lines of “It builds better back-ups”. “Go Joe” rhymes and makes sense, although he may well have come up with “GI Joe.”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 8:37 am

I have not seen Rowe for a while.

It is to be hoped that he is finally seeking help for his strange obsession with seeing conservative men drawn nude.

Perhaps he is even now playing with a bowl of jelly, and drawing people’s names all over their clothes so he knows who they are – just like he has to do in his drawings.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 8:44 am

I know it’s a bit cheeky to cross-post, but Indolent spotted something funny in Garrison’s toon.

Can you see it?

World famous, and not in a good way.

Megan
Megan
September 3, 2021 8:45 am

Stopped to buy some veges at the local fruit shop this morning. All apologies because he was late setting up…apparently there was no entry to the Epping wholesale market this morning unless you had the vax. There and then…he had to queue up for his shot before he could buy supplies.

Megan
Megan
September 3, 2021 8:47 am

I noticed the world famous local dictator got a tshirt! Should have been Dan, but.

srr
srr
September 3, 2021 8:48 am

Mater says:
September 3, 2021 at 7:22 am
Former health minister Jenny Mikakos has taken a swipe at the state’s chief health officer at a parliamentary inquiry, saying there would be a time when Victorians would know “the truth in all matters”.

If she had any guts, she’d let us know the “truth” RIGHT NOW whilst it still does matter!

We are being destroyed, kids are offing themselves, and she’s threatening to tell the truth and bring them down…at a later date? Fuck!

The Mask Laws are as effective protection against bio-weapons as ‘duck & cover’ was effective against nukes.

Still, we ARE AT WAR, Modern War, and just as, “Loose Lips Sink Ships” was true in previous wars, lockdowns, masking & tracking does make pinging deep cover terror cells & their supports, a winningly, doable thing.

Don’t get me wrong, I hate the restrictions we’re all being put under, especially what they’re doing to those too young to comprehend a Very Much Bigger, ‘big picture’, than the colour-by-numbers simplistic BS that their most Commie of teachers shove down their throats, BUT, I do understand that besides the tyrannical arseholes out there screwing over the world, there are also heroes, mixing it up with them, and we may never get to know who they are or what heroics they did, as is more often the case than not.

Indolent
Indolent
September 3, 2021 8:51 am

Has anyone taken a closer look at today’s Ben Garrison toon? We seem to have made the big time, in the worst possible way.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 8:52 am

ACLU
??@ACLU??

Far from compromising them, vaccine mandates actually further civil liberties. They protect the most vulnerable, people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated, and communities of color hit hard by the disease.

Wow.
Just wow.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
September 3, 2021 8:56 am

Has anyone taken a closer look at today’s Ben Garrison toon? We seem to have made the big time, in the worst possible way.

He didn’t draw Gladys’ nose large enough.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 8:58 am

The more I observe what is going on out there the more I am convinced the two greatest Social Psychology experiments , now banned on ethical grounds so cannot be repeated, are in play for real .

Min, an extra factor is the superficialization of everything. I just now read this article:

The Crisis of Gen Z (FPM, 2 Sep)

All too many of them experience the world largely through their devices, and to have trouble with real-life human contact. To an alarming extent, they’re prisoners of presentism, ignorant of and indifferent to history and hyper-aware of this week’s hottest fads, jargon, and pop-culture phenomena. Many are narcissists of the first order (if you don’t believe it, check out one of the countless online videos in which members of this cohort yammer on at heroic length about their pronouns and gender identity). They’re also, as the expression goes, so open-minded that their brains have fallen out, reflexively giving unreflecting assent to trendy ideologies about everything from climate change to transgenderism.

When the kids are no longer equipped educationally to think for themselves they will naturally congregate into herds. Which then makes it even easier for those two strategies you describe to be actuated.

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 9:08 am
Roger
Roger
September 3, 2021 9:22 am

What kind of person does not find ‘Build Back Better” jarring?

The types who thought “We are us” was a good idea.

Roger
Roger
September 3, 2021 9:32 am

It appears Palaszczuk has either misread a graph or misled the Queensland parliament.

Either way, she’s doubled down on her threat to keep the state’s borders closed unless children are vaccinated.

The Courier-Mail says she is “damaging public confidence” while her deputy has conceded the decision to allow NRL players and their entourage in was “not good optics”.

Meanwhile, Richard Marles has joined Antony Albanese in publicly “distancing himself” from her.

Could she be the first of the covid tyrants to fall?

MatrixTransform
September 3, 2021 9:36 am

Warracknabeal

hmm.
seems that all manner of sketchy punters have family roots around there

srr
srr
September 3, 2021 9:38 am

“struth says:
September 3, 2021 at 9:17 am

And again thanks to those posting links.

I am reposting them elsewhere.

I hope we all are.

As we have a constitutional crises it is time to write to governors and kick their absent arses.”

____________________

Yep struth, anything the ‘Knitting Ladies’ would rather we not do, you know is something worth doing.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 3, 2021 9:40 am

The thought of the vacant Dr Miles as Premier of Qld is truly horrifying.

min
min
September 3, 2021 9:40 am

Thanks BoN I wondered about responses on this thread re this but most probably have not read about these experiments .
From memory , participants in Milgram’s were off the street I guess trying to get an example of the ordinary person . He was trying to research what made the Germans act like they did with the Nazis . However the participants were supposedly ordinary folk off the street , not subjected to propaganda, or fear of reprisal, but used to authority figures telling them what to do
Psychological testing was given to the self selected participants at Stanford , who were all middle class college students . It is interesting that this experiment is still analysed these days I can remember Zimbardo all over media after the prisoner abuse by soldiers in Iraq, I think Abu Grad or something.
Today there is an increase in Narcissism Twenge et als research shows this worldwide so the I am entitled and The rules do not apply to me beliefs are obvious but the majority are still obeying Dan ‘s Laws and the cruel , abusive behaviour obvious in the Jailers. Maybe the Stanford experiment us a truer observation of in the right circumstances humans can be mean , cruel and abusive .
Interviews years later to the jailers who are now middle aged men are interesting also when they contemplate why the behaved the way they did .

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 9:41 am

“Wow.
Just wow.”

I am not surprised. I would argue that the ACLU is now actively hostile to free speech and doesn’t even hide it.

The ACLU, as with the SPLC and the ADL, has been completely captured by the progressive lunatic left.

sfw
sfw
September 3, 2021 9:44 am

Farmer Gez, we’ve had just under 600mm so far this year, with around 80mm in the forecast over the next day or so. God’s little acre.

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 9:44 am

Rogersays:
September 3, 2021 at 9:32 am
It appears Palaszczuk has either misread a graph or misled the Queensland parliament.

Either way, she’s doubled down on her threat to keep the state’s borders closed unless children are vaccinated.

The Courier-Mail says she is “damaging public confidence” while her deputy has conceded the decision to allow NRL players and their entourage in was “not good optics”.

Meanwhile, Richard Marles has joined Antony Albanese in publicly “distancing himself” from her.

Could she be the first of the covid tyrants to fall?

She has completely misread the public mood for change. Cognitively trapped and inflexible.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 9:44 am

Hi DB, can you please add City Journal to your blogroll?

Roger
Roger
September 3, 2021 9:48 am

She has completely misread the public mood for change. Cognitively trapped and inflexible.

She’s going to need a bigger PR team.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
September 3, 2021 9:51 am

Cassie, the ABC journo who did the puff piece on the Cairns pedos is Ginger Gorman. She now writes for the HerCanberra website.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 9:55 am

Yep struth, anything the ‘Knitting Ladies’ would rather we not do, you know is something worth doing.

srr definitely has sand in the vagina today.

Mater
September 3, 2021 9:55 am

Maybe the Stanford experiment us a truer observation of in the right circumstances humans can be mean , cruel and abusive .

“The problem with Australians is not that so many of them are descended from convicts but that so many are descended from prison officers.”
– Clive James

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 10:03 am

“rugbyskiersays:
September 3, 2021 at 9:51 am
Cassie, the ABC journo who did the puff piece on the Cairns pedos is Ginger Gorman. She now writes for the HerCanberra website.”

Thank you….I didn’t want to google it because I find it quite distressing.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 10:03 am

I am going contrary to type here but I feel I must say something in defence of Biden.

He has received a lot of bad press for his conduct at the transfer ceremony.

A lot of people were saying that the men and women being carried out the back of the aeroplane had died on his watch. Is it so surprising that he felt he ought to check?

areff
areff
September 3, 2021 10:04 am

And don’t forget David Marr’s account of the gay couple’s arrest:

Gay couple lose son over child sex fears

P
P
September 3, 2021 10:06 am

Two Bold and True Responses to the Dangers of Gender Ideology
COMMENTARY: Pope Francis has repeatedly and emphatically spoken out against gender ideology. And Virginia Bishop Michael Burbidge’s Aug. 12 pastoral letter on gender dysphoria models truth in charity and authentic mercy.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 3, 2021 10:07 am

Bad Mother Lode.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 3, 2021 10:08 am

No.
I’m Nick Cave.

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 10:09 am

Higher intake of specific nutrients linked to lower brain iron and better cognition in older adults

A link to the study is available. Interestingly the active component in Green Tea, EGCG, is an iron chelator. Iron accumulation in the brain is a problem with aging and a nuisance.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 3, 2021 10:09 am

Morning, gentlefolk. Did I read that some are calling for a Royal Commish or 2 into our betters and their actions? That’s the last thing we need. The legal profession has been right behind the ever increasing laws and loss of freedoms. they need to live the rest of their miserable lives in fear of the populace, same as our overlords. And
remember travel?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 3, 2021 10:09 am

Don’t touch that font size Dover!
It’s perfect for people who wear scratchy service-station glasses.

Mater
September 3, 2021 10:14 am

Don’t touch that font size Dover!
It’s perfect for people who wear scratchy service-station glasses.

Clean your periscopes, Panzer.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 3, 2021 10:14 am

Slept in, so a late “Thanks” to Tom for the ‘Toons.
I am loving the permanent appearance of the vacant thought bubble over Biden’s head in Branco’s work.
Mark Knight is also excellent with his secondary jokes. Today’s drawing of Chairman Dan’s face as a QR code was sublime.

Delta A
Delta A
September 3, 2021 10:16 am

Very good, Mother Lode.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 10:18 am

“areffsays:
September 3, 2021 at 10:04 am
And don’t forget David Marr’s account of the gay couple’s arrest:”

Thanks areff…I’d forgotten about that one. I shouldn’t be surprised….nothing surprises me about Marr.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 10:18 am

“Mother Lodesays:
September 3, 2021 at 10:03 am”

Very good!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 10:22 am

However the participants were supposedly ordinary folk off the street , not subjected to propaganda, or fear of reprisal, but used to authority figures telling them what to do

Min – That was what made me think of the FPM article: if you have the authorities telling people what to do it takes education and understanding to work out whether that is the right thing or not. It takes less brain power to go along with the herd, even if the herdmaster is taking you to the abattoir.

In turn the authorities themselves are likewise captured by the expert class since pollies aren’t trained in critical thinking and scientific analysis either. Another article today:

Who Needs Experts? | Power Line (2 Sep)

I share that skeptical attitude, in part because of my own experience. As a trial lawyer, I both worked with and cross-examined hundreds, likely thousands, of experts in various fields. Many of them had extraordinarily impressive credentials. My experience was that experts are like everyone else. Some know what they are talking about, others don’t. Some back up their opinions with sound data and careful reasoning, while others crumble under adverse examination. Deferring to someone merely because he or she is a credentialed expert would be a terrible, and sometimes potentially suicidal, practice. Don’t do it.

Again ordinary people cannot so easily defy the expert class since they aren’t equipped to cross-examine them in this way. So by default they go along with it…until the Soviet Army eventually reaches Berlin.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 10:32 am

Squints….are these point sizes for ants!

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 10:32 am

How Would People Behave in Milgram’s Experiment Today?


In fact, the replication suggests a darker picture. One of optimistic findings of the original Milgram experiment was his condition 7, in which there were three teachers, two of whom (both confederates of the experimenter) defied the experimenter. Given this social support, most subjects refused to continue to administer shocks, suggesting that social solidarity serves as a kind of a defense against destructive obedience to authority. Unfortunately, this did not occur in the French replication, in which the production assistant protested about the immorality of the procedure with virtually no effect on levels of obedience. And unfortunately, not in the Burger study either: Burger found that the intervention of an accomplice who refused to continue had no effect on the levels of obedience. So it may be that we are in fact more compliant today than Milgram’s original subjects, unmoved by social support. A dark thought for our dark times.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 10:34 am

Was idly checking DDG for a way to indent paragraphs in comments when I found the following article.

Dover might find it useful!

How To Customize Blockquotes Style in WordPress Themes (2013)

And yes I’m trying indenting too.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 10:35 am

It’s all very well for you laser eyes! 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 10:35 am

Which didn’t work… 🙁

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 10:37 am

Don’t get too fancy. People might actually read what we write.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 3, 2021 10:39 am

The more I observe what is going on out there the more I am convinced the two greatest Social Psychology experiments , now banned on ethical grounds so cannot be repeated, are in play for real . Stanley Milgram’s authoritarian and obedience experiment and Philip Zimbardo’s Stanford experiment on jailer and prisoners .

Yes.

rosie
rosie
September 3, 2021 10:39 am

Mater im not sure that Jo Nova is that wrong.
There haven’t been lockdowns in the US since June 2020 and they have a lot more people living in close proximity in their big cities
So its quite possible that Australia hasn’t had as undetected cases and the US has had millions.
Another reason people in the US might not seek medical assistance is cost.
For the uninsured it can potentially mean losing your house. My friend’s sister’s house in West Virginia has a lien over it after she got found in a diabetic coma and nearly died. When she does die the hospital will take her house.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
September 3, 2021 10:41 am

The thought of the vacant Dr Miles as Premier of Qld is truly horrifying.

I call him ‘the Ken Doll’ and I reckon like the doll he only has a plastic mound.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 10:41 am

Maybe up your zoom setting Calli? Dunno what you are using but I accidentally found DDG on a laptop naturally saves zoom setting by website. So I’ve had Posh Cat at 75% whereas every other webpage is 90%. But with the quote font a bit smaller I think I’ll change to 80%.

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2021 10:45 am

One of the most ridiculous opinion pieces I have ever read.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UTasLawRw/2011/2.html

Author argues that: It’s not logical to argue stolen generations history lacks merit due to lack of legal success, shouldn’t be related at all. But then goes on to argue about all of the legal impediments that should be removed to get legal success. (Cos of the **feels**).

Oh, and no surprise, he’s now a Victorian judge.

https://www.vicbar.com.au/sites/default/files/Victorian%20Bar%20Address%20for%20Magistrate%20Randall%20Kune%206%20December%202018.pdf

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 3, 2021 10:46 am

There’s stupid, then there’s Claudia Webbe MP stupid.

what we’re doing to create LGBT “safe zones”.. in Afghanistan..

(For those who don’t occasionally dip a toe in UK politics, the Corbynistas see her as the future of the Labour Party.)

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 3, 2021 10:48 am

Roger @9:32

Either way, she’s doubled down on her threat to keep the state’s borders closed unless children are vaccinated.

No big surprise there.
Palacechook is a muppet who, for the past 18 months, has enjoyed playing Strong Deliverer in daily pressers that have destroyed any Oppisition and kept her several jealous rivals in the shade.

She won’t fold the tent and go gracefully.

The surprising thing is that the media has pounced on her stupid politicking – and that her Labor colleagues have taken a sharp backwards step.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 10:48 am

Take no notice of me, Bruce. I’m being a nark.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 10:51 am

Also DB, Spiked Online, Unherd and The Critic are all great websites to add to the blogroll.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 3, 2021 10:53 am

Roger @9:32

The Courier-Mail says she is “damaging public confidence” while her deputy [Stephen Miles] has conceded the decision to allow NRL players and their entourage in was “not good optics”.

So, “not good optics”, not ‘not good policy’.
Translation: Bugger. Sprung.

Sums up Stephen ‘Moral Vacuum’ Miles perfectly.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 10:55 am

One of the most ridiculous opinion pieces I have ever read.

Haha, we Aussies are overachievers in that regard.

Back to the Caves! | Power Line (1 Sep)

The author of this lugubrious essay, Kim Sterelny (professor of philosophy at Australian National University, natch), things all of this progress was horrible, because it led to inequality. Some samples:

“Our particular species of humans has been around for about 300,000 years and, best as we can tell, for about 290,000 of those years we lived materially poorer but much more equal lives.”

It gets worse after that. Fits right in with the sovereign privilege of the Stolen Generation to live nastily, brutishly and briefly at the hands of their various uncles if the Left wants them to. For equality!

Indolent
Indolent
September 3, 2021 11:01 am

Our stupid immune system …

It doesn’t mention pre or post vaccine numbers. Immune over response to new viruses is one of the known risks of the vaccines.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 11:02 am

The surprising thing is that the media has pounced on her stupid politicking – and that her Labor colleagues have taken a sharp backwards step.

Doubt that is from any illusions of empathy or consideration Roger. More likely Federal ALP staffers are frantically doing internal polling and focus groups to understand the punters in lead up to the looming election. Which is no later than May next year.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 3, 2021 11:03 am

Senate demand for JobKeeper data escalates to threat of fines or jail for ATO boss

Tax commissioner Chris Jordan is being warned he could be fined or jailed under the Parliamentary Privileges Act for failing to comply with a Senate order to publish the names of large private companies that received JobKeeper payments.

Covid governance chickens running all over the road.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 3, 2021 11:04 am

Palacechook now apologising for allowing the wags into Queensland for finals.
The Pineapple people love that sort of shit, Peter Beattie made an art form of the contrition con.

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 11:05 am

I know most people accept Milgram’s interpretation of the experiment without bothering to read critiques of it. There are some problems …

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0190272519861952

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

italics are harder to read, need to be in a slightly larger font.

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 11:12 am

Indolentsays:
September 3, 2021 at 11:01 am
Our stupid immune system …

It doesn’t mention pre or post vaccine numbers. Immune over response to new viruses is one of the known risks of the vaccines.

Read it again. Autoantibodies to type 1 IFNs occur independently of infection or vaccine. The study was not about the vaccines but about COVID infection.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 11:15 am

If we’re going to extend the Blogroll, let’s include the Bee.

Lord knows we need the laughs.

According to sources, an unprecedented 331,128,473 Americans are living safely in America and are not abandoned in Afghanistan. This number is 91,543 higher than last week’s number, as approximately 91,543 babies were born in America this week.

“What the President has accomplished is simply unparalleled,” said Psaki, wiping a tear from her eye. “It’s like the Berlin airlift and Dunkirk had a beautiful love child, and that was this evacuation.

Woolfe
Woolfe
September 3, 2021 11:20 am
Bushkid
Bushkid
September 3, 2021 11:34 am

Megan says:
September 3, 2021 at 8:45 am
Stopped to buy some veges at the local fruit shop this morning. All apologies because he was late setting up…apparently there was no entry to the Epping wholesale market this morning unless you had the vax. There and then…he had to queue up for his shot before he could buy supplies.

A silly question I know, but would there have been a competent doctor present, one who knew his personal medical history, and who could give him informed advice about the suitability of the jab for his own individual circumstances? Would he have been given FULL information about the genuine protection afforded by the jab, and most importantly FULL information about the possible negative effects from it? Would he have been given the data about re-infections of the jabbed, or the deaths and injuries from the jabs? I doubt it!

This is where the whole shit-show has to be called into question. How in God’s holy name can this possibly be legal?

It’s certainly not ethical or moral.

It is, in fact, blatant blackmail – “Take the jab here and now, or you can’t have access to the goods of your trade to earn your living.”

Coercion is definitely not sufficiently strong a word for it, and that is outlawed under all the laws that are supposed to govern this situation.

sfw
sfw
September 3, 2021 11:35 am

Well the big push has started in Vic, in the last couple of days, I’ve received emails and facebook messages almost demanding that I get vaxxed so we can go back to normal. My youngest sons school – Catholic College Wodonga, the principal has sent two emails extolling the vax and how the state gov is assisting setting up a vax centre at the school to get all the kids done asap, he pleads with me to give permission for my son to be jabbed. On FB several local pubs and other businesses are pleading with me to get vaxxed so they can reopen. My old cycling club (Coburg) is pushing for all to get it, the Historic Motorcycle Racing Club is pushing all to be vaxxed. My 19you daughter in uni in Melbourne pleaded with me to get it so she can have a normal life.

It’s everywhere, they’re all folding on Dans promise of freedom if we’re all vaxxed. It never occurs to them that he lies for a living and this his promise may be a lie. They want to believe, they want their lives back and don’t care about the cost.It’s over, get used to life as a second class citizen and lose many friends and relatives.

cohenite
September 3, 2021 11:40 am

Gab’s response to that hideous skank pelosi’s attempt to get companies to divulge details of GOP texts and messages vis a vis the 6 January picnic at the capital during which one of pelosi’s thugs murdered a female veteran:

https://news.gab.com/2021/09/01/gab-coms-response-to-congress/

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 3, 2021 11:40 am

Nothing will happen of course

Oh yes it will.
They will be reprimanded for getting caught, and the video will play at every shift briefing as an object lesson to all the other plods on how NOT to get caught.
The totalitarian aspects of trumping up charges aspect? Certainly, nothing will be done.

Winston Smith
September 3, 2021 11:44 am

Rosie:

You know perfectly well in the context of vaccines passports which in most countries includes those who have recently recovered from covid it is perfectly reasonable to say that ‘vaccine passports’ will become redundant once the unvaxxed get and recover from covid.

That’s a fairly naive look at the way our masters work.
The list of diseases/vaccinations will broaden – AIDS/Rabies/Influenza etc will appear on the list*.
Probably not AIDS because ‘unfair’ to a certain deviant but politically active minority.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 3, 2021 11:45 am

It’s everywhere, they’re all folding on Dans promise of freedom if we’re all vaxxed. It never occurs to them that he lies for a living and this his promise may be a lie.

He is a liar, that’s for sure.
But, above all else, he is a power hungry political animal.
He may well have one eye on the backlash against PalaceChook, particularly with the ALP Feds and the Courier Mail cutting her loose.
Whatever he does, he will be desparate to position all the blame tokens on someone else’s squares on the gameboard.
Which will be ScoMo / Gladbags.
Watch this space for the carefully placed briefings pre-empting a cautious opening “dependent on Federal vaccination rates”.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Woolfesays:
September 3, 2021 at 11:20 am
Avi catches the Stasi abusing their powers and inventing charges on camera.

Nothing will happen of course

Every one of them should be dismissed from the police force.
Immediately.
The circumstances of their dismissal should preclude them from being accepted into any other police force.

They’re unhappy at him posting Youtube videos of cops breaching covid rules?
There’s a really easy way to avoid that happening – alas plod is too dumb to work that one out.

shatterzzz
September 3, 2021 11:46 am

My 19you daughter in uni in Melbourne pleaded with me to get it so she can have a normal life.
My son has been at me non-stop .. get it or they (not sure if he means him or GLADYS .. LOL!) won’t let you travel to see your grand-kids ..
As I’ve told him .. I’m 73 fitter & healthier than anyone in the elected NSW gummint .. I can ride 150kms any day of the week, I swim 1 to 2 kms 3X a week (when the bloody pools are open, that is!) & they want me to have some jab that they’ve indemnified everyone over but the mug who cops it ……!
NO THANX ……..!

shatterzzz
September 3, 2021 12:02 pm

How could something like this happen in NSW? Especially, after GLADYS decreed a 9.00pm curfew .. where wuz plod? .. Wouldn’t take too much imagination to summise that there would have been NO mask wearing either .. a crime deemed much more serious than any fatality ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9953333/Blacktown-victim-deadly-brawl-identified-18-year-old-Oliver-Coleman-18-identified-as.html

Mater
September 3, 2021 12:03 pm

Mater im not sure that Jo Nova is that wrong.

It’s possible she’s not.
However, in the space of two comments, she went from ‘the number of flu cases are under reported’, to ‘the government exaggerates them to encourage vaccination’. Two polar opposite arguments.

My point was that of the positively diagnosed cases, a far greater percentage of the young died from Swine Flu. This was according to the accepted data, all speculation aside.

People can make contrary arguments, based on speculation and wishful thinking, but the government should have responded based on THEIR data. That is the data I have presented. They appear not to have. Acceptance of the fact that <50 were at very little risk, should have driven a different response. A more targeted one. A far less draconian one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 3, 2021 12:12 pm

The author of this lugubrious essay, Kim Sterelny (professor of philosophy at Australian National University, natch), things all of this progress was horrible, because it led to inequality. Some samples:

“Our particular species of humans has been around for about 300,000 years and, best as we can tell, for about 290,000 of those years we lived materially poorer but much more equal lives.”

Not sure what the salary and add ons for a perfesser are these days, but I suspect that he is living a very unequal lifestyle.

Zipster
September 3, 2021 12:16 pm

“Our particular species of humans has been around for about 300,000 years and, best as we can tell, for about 290,000 of those years we lived materially poorer but much more equal lives.”

not the old noble savage chestnut again. cheerful squalor for all!

shatterzzz
September 3, 2021 12:19 pm

Avi catches the Stasi abusing their powers and inventing charges on camera.

You do have to wonder at the mind-set in the senior plod ranks, especially in GLADYSTAN & DANISTAN, when it should be obvious that public opinion of plod has them ranked below both politicians & the legal fraternity on the vote-herd list(s) ..
The insights into the bovver boyz behavior/attitudes that is on display, daily, across social media ( under the guise of BAT FLU rules) is absolutely appalling and trying to fob it off as we-isn’t-all-bad just doesn’t work, anymore .. the damage dun to the plod reputation/goodwill will take years if ever to rekindle and is down to lack of leadership ..
Still Mick Full-of-it
gets to retire next year on a $squillion pension so why would he care .. he’s gonna go with his reputation in tatters but plenty of moolah to cry himself to sleep over ……!

P
P
September 3, 2021 12:26 pm

Fixed.

Thanks.

Arky
September 3, 2021 12:31 pm

Please check out the new post on the unconstitutionality of vaccine passports at the top of the page. It’s short and to the point.

..
Or the one under it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 12:32 pm

I liked the old quote italics.

*sniff*

P
P
September 3, 2021 12:36 pm

I liked the old quote italics.

*sniff*

Me too.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 12:42 pm

“Please check out the new post on the unconstitutionality of vaccine passports at the top of the page. It’s short and to the point.”

I have read it DB….great to see Augusto posting here. What about trying to get a piece from James Allen at some stage?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 3, 2021 12:47 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 3, 2021 at 12:32 pm

I liked the old quote italics.

*sniff*

Really?
Is that a priority right now?

Roger
Roger
September 3, 2021 12:53 pm

Oh dear…a journalist has made Dr. Jeannette Young “quite upset” by asking her a question she didn’t like: why is she making political decisions?

“I’m not comfortable with any deaths that are preventable. So that’s why I want every single Queenslander who can be vaccinated to get vaccinated because that is the best protection, and that’s why I’ve spent the last 19 months doing everything I can.”

That’s an implied threat of more lockdowns ahead even when the 80% vaccination target is reached.

Her emergency powers have just been extended for another 8 months.

In the name of God, woman, go!

min
min
September 3, 2021 1:02 pm

Thanks John H so what do you think is happening ? Have we been so filled with the fear of viruses that it is easier to obey? I am hearing about rule breaking and the fear is not catching something but being dobbed in by neighbours.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 1:06 pm

great to see Augusto posting here.

If he knows Trent, could he give him a smack on the back of the head. Could be like rolling a die and after a bit of a rattle his wits might come up six.

Bruce in WA
September 3, 2021 1:09 pm

“I’m not comfortable with any deaths that are preventable. So that’s why I want every single Queenslander who can be vaccinated to get vaccinated because that is the best protection, and that’s why I’ve spent the last 19 months doing everything I can.”

The good doctor then went on to say:

“I am making, sorry you’ve got me quite upset now, I do not want to see any death of a Queenslander that is preventable, whether it be due to smoking, due to obesity, due to high alcohol intake, due to accidents that could have been prevented due to road trauma.

And there you have the next targets for when CV-19 bites the dust — for your own good, of course! /sarc

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 3, 2021 1:09 pm

Rogersays:

September 3, 2021 at 12:53 pm

Oh dear…a journalist has made Dr. Jeannette Young “quite upset” by asking her a question she didn’t like: why is she making political decisions?

Is the tide turning?
She was asked about granting permits for fillem industry people or footiers last year, when people couldn’t get in to visit dying relatives.
The answer?
“My understanding is that these activities are critical to the Queensland economy“.
Not one journo asked her what tye fuck she was doing making economic decisions.

Roger
Roger
September 3, 2021 1:17 pm

Doubt that is from any illusions of empathy or consideration Roger.

That was Faustus, not me. But there is no doubt all of this is coloured by the upcoming federal election. On that point, it’s noteworthy that while Palaszczuk has been the Opposition’s attack dog for Morrison she hasn’t touched him in QLD, where he remains highly preferred as PM over Albanese. I wonder if Palaszczuk will be invited to campaign with Albo? If she’s still around, that is.

She won’t fold the tent and go gracefully.

It’s the Labor Party, Faustus.

She doesn’t get to decide when she goes, the unions do.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 1:20 pm

“I’m not comfortable with any deaths that are preventable. So that’s why I want every single Queenslander who can be vaccinated to get vaccinated because that is the best protection, and that’s why I’ve spent the last 19 months doing everything I can.”

And later the person in charge of road regulations can impose rules that guarantee no person is injured – perhaps speed limits set to zero.

The Fire Department can have us disconnect from the grid and gas mains, ban kero heaters and barbecues, and threaten debilitating fines on anyone who builds a small fire from an old book in winter.

Married people should be compelled to live separately to prevent domestic violence.

Workplaces can be closed down to avoid acute injury as might occur from mechanical accidents, or slower illnesses incurred through a sedentary office life.

There are of course many more things that will need to be done.

Only then should we be allowed freedom.

Bruce in WA
September 3, 2021 1:29 pm

I hadn’t realised that Greg Hunt (is that rhyming slang?) had extended the international travel ban, quietly, until 17 December this year.

“Be quiet, peasants … I and I alone will decide when you can leave Gulag ‘Straya.”

Rissole of a man …

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 1:31 pm

Just had a look at DashCat.

Thor Rium (could have gone with ‘Thor Rheum’ – the Thunder God’s snot) is running rampant over there. I am assuming it is Googlery – there is just this rank unpleasantness about him that gives him away like a sharks dorsal fin in cartoons.

And Bird has plagued the sight of course.

It was Adam’s misfortune that that malodorous pair chose to infest his site. I doubt he, or anyone else except Sinc, had any idea how much effort it would take to check their infestation.

I hope Dover is ready in case they decide they have exsanguinated Adam’s enough and try to move here.

Roger
Roger
September 3, 2021 1:36 pm

“My understanding is that these activities are critical to the Queensland economy“.

A quick check revealed the films being produced in QLD in March 2021 were worth $437m to the state economy.

By contrast, the tourism sector contributes an estimated $8bn in a normal year.

Young is possibly one of the stupidest people ever to attain a medical degree.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 3, 2021 1:41 pm

Mr Panzer, at 12.47:

‘Really?
Is that a priority right now?’

That is actionable.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 1:41 pm

Thor Rium is Bird.

johanna
johanna
September 3, 2021 1:43 pm

You do have to wonder at the mind-set in the senior plod ranks, especially in GLADYSTAN & DANISTAN, when it should be obvious that public opinion of plod has them ranked below both politicians & the legal fraternity on the vote-herd list(s) ..

I suspect it’s worse in the cities, where Plod are fairly anonymous.

In the country town I live in, the cops have been invisible for the three weeks I’ve been living in the CBD. They are hunkered down in the station, or on highway patrol well away from the punters.

The prospect of monstering or fining friends, relatives and neighbours with all their attached social networks does not appeal to them, is my guess.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 1:44 pm

Thor Rium is Bird.

The infestation is worse than I thought.

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 1:52 pm

minsays:
September 3, 2021 at 1:02 pm
Thanks John H so what do you think is happening ? Have we been so filled with the fear of viruses that it is easier to obey? I am hearing about rule breaking and the fear is not catching something but being dobbed in by neighbours.

Hey min I just got off the phone talking to a friend who like myself is avoiding the vax as long as possible. It is easy for me because I’ve always been a contrarian. I have family members avoiding the vax. I can’t explain why the broader population has become so obsequious towards the politicians and experts. I recall reading that how people respond to epidemics is very different to how people respond to other crises. As a psychologist you might find that an interesting avenue to explore.

calli
calli
September 3, 2021 1:53 pm

The Bird was skewered by the Carpe.

I believe nano-wrigglers were used as bait.

Joanna
Joanna
September 3, 2021 1:53 pm

It’s everywhere, they’re all folding on Dans promise of freedom if we’re all vaxxed. It never occurs to them that he lies for a living and this his promise may be a lie.

It also never occurs to them that he will move the goal posts once the vaccination rate is achieved. There will always be another ‘biggest danger/challenge yet’ that he needs to protect us from. Eighteen months, and the majority of Victorians still don’t get it.

John H.
John H.
September 3, 2021 1:54 pm

Mother Lodesays:
September 3, 2021 at 1:44 pm
Thor Rium is Bird.

The infestation is worse than I thought.

His behavior reminds me of hypergraphia. A temporal lobe issue perhaps?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

The prospect of monstering or fining friends, relatives and neighbours with all their attached social networks does not appeal to them, is my guess.

Key phrase: … attached social networks

They may live in a compound, but their kids go to school, their wives work, & some of them are involved in sports or social club activities. They’re not anonymous.

Hence speeding fines are mostly issued by out-of-town anonymous highway patrol, who mysteriously seem to know who speeds & where.

Not being anonymous means they’re highly susceptible to political pressure. Mayors, others with clout, & the politically connected know very well who they are, & know the reliability of those who report police conduct. Coz local personal connections go all the way back to pre-school. That’s a bond cops can’t break, nor break into.

Negative career implications for other people don’t worry cops.
Negative career implications are for others however, different when it may bounce back on a cop.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 3, 2021 1:57 pm

The infestation is worse than I thought.

DDGed yesterday a fairly simple search phrase related to a thing we’d been talking about, forget what. The fourth or fifth hit was Graeme berating JC for something, on his own blog, in 2009.

There’s staying power then there’s full on thor rium energy.

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2021 1:59 pm

There’s staying power then there’s full on thor rium energy.

Doesn’t come close to gypsum 😛

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Example: A couple of towns over, they totally ignored the mask mandate, as in nobody wore one, & people still kept going into the pub, shops, etc without one, & totally ignoring the “no drinking when standing” etc.

What was the town cop going to do? Die for Anastacia Palachuk & Jeanette Young?
His log showed he was patrolling in the woods, about 200km north of town, for the duration of the mask mandate.

miltonf
miltonf
September 3, 2021 2:04 pm

Young is possibly one of the stupidest people ever to attain a medical degree.

And from St Ives too. A byword for obnoxious snobbery.

Cassie of Sydney
September 3, 2021 2:06 pm

“The infestation is worse than I thought.”

Yep. He’s not exactly enhancing the place.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 3, 2021 2:10 pm

Bruce in WA says:
September 3, 2021 at 1:29 pm
I hadn’t realised that Greg Hunt (is that rhyming slang?) had extended the international travel ban, quietly, until 17 December this year.

And there I was thinking that Quaintarse opening the skies from 20 December was a unilateral decision.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 2:11 pm

Doesn’t come close to gypsum

Ah, the white submarine that, though a naivete on matters submersible by the author, inspired the story of Moby Dick.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 2:11 pm

Nadia Bartel in a little trouble.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 3, 2021 2:11 pm

& a shooting in NZ.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 2:11 pm

though a naivete

should be

through a naivete…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 3, 2021 2:12 pm

& a shooting in NZ.

Wearing a mask?

Important details, please!

How else are we to ascertain the seriousness of the crime.

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2021 2:26 pm

So the TAB have rebranded themselves the JAB.

What are the odds? How dumb.

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2021 2:28 pm

Aren’t I just having an agreeable time here. It’s almost like the ABC!

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2021 2:28 pm

Aren’t I just having an agreeable time here. It’s almost like the ABC!

Yes, you are.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 3, 2021 2:32 pm

Mother Lodesays:
September 3, 2021 at 1:31 pm
Just had a look at DashCat.

Thor Rium (could have gone with ‘Thor Rheum’ – the Thunder God’s snot) is running rampant over there. I am assuming it is Googlery – there is just this rank unpleasantness about him that gives him away like a sharks dorsal fin in cartoons

No, just (yet) another reincarnation of Bird.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 3, 2021 2:35 pm

It’s almost like the ABC!

No it’s not, or I wouldn’t be here.

johanna
johanna
September 3, 2021 2:39 pm

Not being anonymous means they’re highly susceptible to political pressure. Mayors, others with clout, & the politically connected know very well who they are, & know the reliability of those who report police conduct. Coz local personal connections go all the way back to pre-school. That’s a bond cops can’t break, nor break into.

Negative career implications for other people don’t worry cops.
Negative career implications are for others however, different when it may bounce back on a cop.

Yes, there are two sides to the local cops having roots in the community. In this case, it has worked in favour of the community. In others, not so much.

Ah, perfection. It always eludes us!

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2021 2:42 pm

No it’s not, or I wouldn’t be here.

Indeed DrB.

One of my favourite guilty pleasures of the week is spending Friday afternoon waiting for Hendo’s media watch dog to come out. 😛 Champagne stuff (or tonic)

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2021 2:43 pm

Yes, there are two sides to the local cops having roots in the community.

Must be talkin vic cops… 😛

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