Open Thread – Mon 20 Sept 2021


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rickw
rickw
September 24, 2021 12:26 pm

Care to tell us what they do mean? Or is it just, whatever they can get away with?

It is literally whatever they can get away with, there are in an echo chamber where pretty much every stupid idea flies.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 12:27 pm

Guess who?
Dated 21st September.

Who?
I’m not on Discord.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2021 12:28 pm

Thanks for that link srr.

Lib-tardy Victoria are 100% up Dans arse.

Are vaccine mandates and vaccine passports a proportionate limitation on our human rights?

As a general rule, Victorians have the right not to be subjected to medical treatment without full, free and informed consent. The starting point must therefore be that people should be free to choose whether to be vaccinated.

However, in order to balance that choice with the right to life and the right to health of other Victorians, the choice not to get vaccinated may come with some consequences such as the limiting of access to particular services (for example restaurants, bars, or sporting venues) and limiting interstate and overseas travel.

It is Liberty Victoria’s view that incentives for vaccination — such as vaccine passports — are a reasonable, necessary and proportionate measure in light of the very significant risk to public health caused by COVID?19 in unvaccinated populations.

It is also our view that vaccine incentives are preferable to the widespread use of vaccine mandates from a human rights perspective. This is because it is a less restrictive method of promoting public health, because it gives people a degree of choice.

However, that view is subject to the following:

vaccine passports should not be used to limit access to public services such as health, housing, education or other government services;
unvaccinated people must not be excluded from accessing fundamental services such as groceries and medical supplies;
where possible, there should be reasonable accommodations made by private businesses and other organisations for people who choose not to get vaccinated, such as click and collect and take away services.
It is our view that the widespread use of vaccine mandates in the community should be an option of last resort. The widespread use of mandates should only be used where it is clear that sufficient rates of vaccination will not be achieved by people receiving the vaccine voluntarily, where there is a high risk of transmission and illness, and alternatives to encourage voluntary vaccination have been exhausted.

At the end they even go on a spiel about how we must be protected from ‘misinformation” by the tender barbed acid spewing cock of government…

What rancid pieces of shit they are.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 12:28 pm

“twostixsays:
September 24, 2021 at 12:14 pm”

another great comment Twostix. That also should be a thread of its own.

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 12:30 pm

For instance, years back before the undercover videos showing the commercial trade of aborted baby parts for big pharma & biotech companies, JC & other used to spriuk for the wisdom of investing in Biotech.

Yea, like it hasn’t been a great investment.

Try this on for size, USSR, you communist.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BBH?p=BBH&.tsrc=fin-srch

Biotech will be the most amazing investment for the next 30 years.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 24, 2021 12:32 pm

Sorry, autocorrect has fucked up certain elements of my rant.

It was a great rant!

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 12:33 pm

Bern

Sanchez is referring to the Faultmeister, who’s become the biggest reverse indicator in the history of Oz blogs.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 12:33 pm

“Lib-tardy Victoria are 100% up Dans arse.”

Did you ever think otherwise? It’s an organisation full of far-left progressives. Julian Burnside’s on the organisation’s panel.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 12:33 pm

I remember reading about life in the old Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. People spoke in whispers so others couldn’t hear them and it’s a habit that many have never let go of……even since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

I remember hearing it first hand from parents, grand parents, uncles, aunts, cousins & siblings.

I also remember the old ones still warning us youngster against any talk about certain things because we never know when it will happen again, but it will.

And here we are, the arrogant politically active yet again killing unwanted babies, ‘imperfect’ & unwanted children and old people, unpersoning business rivals & those they simply don’t like, while crying they can’t be challenged because they’re ‘special’.

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 12:35 pm

On biotech… I’m thinking of going full kamikaze and tipping 30% of my net worth into biotech ETFs.

rickw
rickw
September 24, 2021 12:35 pm

Let my boss verbally know about vaxed status yesterday. They’re joining the dots on who isn’t and who’s in contact with each other. Basically all ok but as soon as the law changes I’m screwed. Was a useful discussion, gave some insights.

Corporate Cowardice is what springs to mind. Will further refine my letter to them. All particularly galling given that they’ve been ceaselessly blathering about the supposed rights of certain minorities whilst completely silent on the real rights of everyone.

A US company so going to give them a bit of IBM and the Holocaust, plus point out that their Corporate Cowardice and the same Corporate Cowardice has directly contributed to a situation that has deteriorated to a point where US senators are calling for sanctions.

Corporate Cowardice: Every shit and immoral government idea has been met with either “when do you want it by?” or “How can we help?”

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 24, 2021 12:36 pm

As much as I loathed Turnbull….do you think we might have had better leadership with him at the helm?

Same shit, different shovel.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 12:36 pm

Every single human rights organisation in this country…and particularly the great spruikers of “ooman rights”…such as Burnside, Triggs, Souphalfarse and others have been silent about the elimination of our fundamental rights.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 12:37 pm

On biotech… I’m thinking of going full kamikaze and tipping 30% of my net worth into biotech ETFs.

You magnificent bastard.
Too ballsy for me.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 24, 2021 12:37 pm

Ta for the links but facebook wants log in details. ?

Gab link only goes for 1:40 so doesn’t seem live rgrettably.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 12:38 pm

“I remember hearing it first hand from parents, grand parents, uncles, aunts, cousins & siblings.”

Yes, I’m sure they told you lots of stories about the Ustaša.

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 12:39 pm

I also remember the old ones still warning us youngster against any talk about certain things because we never know when it will happen again, but it will.

I wish you listened to them, USSR. We wouldn’t have had that Pizzagate bullshit you peddled along with all the other bullshit conspiracy theories. Maybe the “old ones” were nicely trying to shut you up after they saw that you’re like flypaper to every stupid conspiracy theory being huckstered.

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 12:39 pm

Just leaving this here:

Though gradually, though no one remembers exactly how it happened, the unthinkable becomes tolerable. And then acceptable. And then legal. And then applaudable. – Joni Eareckson Tada

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 12:40 pm

rickw, don’t do anything.
Wait for them to make a mistake.
They are probably hoping that it all will go away.

By mistake, see if they do something stupid like trying to move you on because of your conscientious objections.
If they do that, it’s a nice little payday & might only cost you the 40-50 bucks to lodge at Fair Work.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 24, 2021 12:42 pm

twostix says:
September 24, 2021 at 12:14 pm

A Prime Minister has an obligation, a duty – something most of us don’t really operate under in our daily lives, solemn duty – outside of tending to our families, to guard and tend to the commonwealth and keep it intact and the way it was when he found it.

We have no control over the shape of it, we are not taking part in the creation of it – which seems to be happening equal parts by accident and malicious intent, and will be here for 50 years or more unless it is aggressively reversed by the commonwealth right now.

A case in point: Recently the McClown Government passed some more draconian laws about something or the other and the legislation said that no one could appeal against this new law to the High Court of Australia.

West Australians pay the same Federal taxes as all other Australians, yet we are denied access to our High Court under this legislation.

Morrison said nothing, the Commonwealth Government should have immediately shouted down this blatant grab at dictatorial powers, yet they sat mute. Western Australians should get a reduction in their federal taxes as we are paying for facilities and institutions which are denied to us with the apparent complicit agreement of the Commonwealth Government.

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 12:43 pm

Bern

I’m serious. I’ve been toying with it for a few months now. I’m old enough to live off the 70% if I lose that 30%. If it works, I die very rich 🙂

The amount of stuff we will see in the next 30 or so years will be mind boggling…save with one exception… we don’t turn communist, which isn’t out of the ball park these days.

Delta A
Delta A
September 24, 2021 12:43 pm

I was going to comment on Twostix’ excellent posts lately, but Cassie and BBS beat me to it, so I’ll say nuffin’.

Don’t want him getting a swelled head. 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 12:44 pm

A lot of people make the mistake of getting a lawyer to front up to Fair Work with.
Waste of money.
If you can’t sort it out there, then you get your lawyer for the mandatory mediation pre hitting the Federal court.

rickw
rickw
September 24, 2021 12:48 pm

rickw, don’t do anything.
Wait for them to make a mistake.
They are probably hoping that it all will go away.

Thanks, that’s pretty much the advice I gave my college, it’s they’re problem, not yours. They need to work out what they’re going to do with you.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 12:51 pm

rickw, if you’re lucky they might do something stupid.
That is ping you on something like inappropriate use of computer or using work stuff for personal stuff.
You know, something stupid.
It’s a little odd how medium sized organisations try that on, knowing full well you can’t subject one staffer to that kind of scrutiny without showing you’ve done a bunch of staff & held them all to the same standard.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 24, 2021 12:54 pm

Rickw. Found out a relative last night is about to go through a similar process. Tradesman working outdoors away from people. I am in the process of linking him to Latho’s FB page on and Michael Smith has another precedent up today.

As for the Shrine antics, talking to a mate who had lunch yesterday with a bunch of Veterans in NQ Rwanda to Afghanistan era and they are all calling Victoria East Germany. Scathing of Dan Andrews and the Victoria Police for their actions. Apparently getting around on FB too that Dan Andrews got caught out trying to do an end-run round the Fed’s ban on Belt Road, that true?

Baba
Baba
September 24, 2021 12:54 pm

“Don’t overwhelm the ‘elf system”.

Too many nurses appear to regard an occupied bed as a personal affront or harassment.

Arky
September 24, 2021 12:57 pm

On main page I’ve chucked up a Shy News vid on yesterday with idiots “journalists” reporting it as a superspreader event. The comments and ratio lead one to believe that the viewership don’t accept this tyranny anymore.

cohenite
September 24, 2021 1:00 pm

If it works, I die very rich

You lousy bastard, give some of it away. Alan Moran is looking for a fat cat to finance his new anti-global warming group, CLIMSEG, short for Climate Science and Economics Group.

Sling him a couple of mill and do something useful.

Gab
Gab
September 24, 2021 1:02 pm

Anyone know what happened to Rukshan His feed just went dead.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 1:03 pm

Hey Gunner, you out there?
You haven’t been jammed up by the man have you?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2021 1:04 pm

feelthebernsays:

September 24, 2021 at 12:37 pm

On biotech… I’m thinking of going full kamikaze and tipping 30% of my net worth into biotech ETFs.

You magnificent bastard.
Too ballsy for me.

Ask yourself.
What would Faulty do?
Let that be your guiding light.

Arky
September 24, 2021 1:04 pm

JCsays:
September 24, 2021 at 12:35 pm
On biotech… I’m thinking of going full kamikaze and tipping 30% of my net worth into biotech ETFs.

..
You want to buy a range of companies that are currently buying up the human fetal tissues that are the lucrative products of abortion?
Why don’t you just buy an abortion clinic?

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 1:05 pm

Cronkite

I don’t give a shit about gerbil warming either way. I really don’t care if it’s happening and don’t care if it isn’t. I only care about seeing unhobbled nuclear energy get off the ground in a big way and I think it’s actually going to happen.

Gerbil warming is so 00’s anyway. 🙂

Gab
Gab
September 24, 2021 1:05 pm

A FINAL WARNING TO HUMANITY FROM FORMER PFIZER CHIEF SCIENTIST MICHAEL YEADON

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Ci2jK1yFoOd/

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 1:10 pm

Arky

I’m not intending to do buy stocks individually. If they take out Sydney Airport I’m thinking of using the loot and buy a raft of biotech ETFs kamikaze style.

When I pass away, if ever, I intend to argue my case at the pearly gates that the investments were second order and I was only invested in ETFs and not the companies directly. The Good Lord will understand and appreciate the nuance.

JMH
JMH
September 24, 2021 1:11 pm

Gabsays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:02 pm
Anyone know what happened to Rukshan His feed just went dead.

Topher just did a short livecam and said he would text Rukshan to make sure he’s OK. At the time the livestream went dead, I wondered if Rukshan had received a tip-off and decided to “investigate”.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 1:13 pm

“Topher just did a short livecam and said he would text Rukshan to make sure he’s OK. At the time the livestream went dead, I wondered if Rukshan had received a tip-off and decided to “investigate”.”

It’s real cloak and dagger stuff…..the “Melbourne resistance”….and Rukshan, Topher and Avi are partisans.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2021 1:15 pm

Apparently getting around on FB too that Dan Andrews got caught out trying to do an end-run round the Fed’s ban on Belt Road, that true?

Wouldn’t be surprised.
I reckon he will announce a Chunk “Build Back Better” deal leading up to next year’s election.
Weak as he is, ScoMo will have to squash it.
And I reckon it is a loser for Hunchback. Apart from the hard Socialist Left of Labor, the vast majority are extremely wary of the Chunks.
But it is an article of faith for Stairman Dan.

cohenite
September 24, 2021 1:18 pm

Gerbil warming is so 00’s anyway.

What are these, 00’s? Tits, AOC’s eyes.

You might think alarmism is passe but look at what the brits under boris are thinking of doing:

Government considers temporary nationalisation of energy companies to stop collapse

Biotechs will be next; then they’ll be able to inject us with complete impunity. I’ve told you before the only things worth while are physical gold and guns.

Gab
Gab
September 24, 2021 1:19 pm

Thanks, JMH. If you hear anymore please let us know here.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 1:22 pm

Topher Field was live.
1 hr ·
Melbourne the Police City – change of tactics time.

https://www.facebook.com/TopherField/

Chris
Chris
September 24, 2021 1:23 pm

What a decade this is turning out to be.
Doesn’t this all make you long for simpler days, swigging Sumerian mead and disrespecting frightbats?

Gab
Gab
September 24, 2021 1:23 pm

Anyone know how to contact Rukshan? There’s a US site (very popular but definitely not MSM) who have asked me if they can interview Rukshan.

If you do know, send it to Dover who can forward on to me. Ta

Arky
September 24, 2021 1:24 pm

Scientific American:

Every month, Lishan Su receives a small test tube on ice from a company in California. In it is a piece of liver from a human fetus aborted at between 14 and 19 weeks of pregnancy.

Su and his staff at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill carefully grind the liver, centrifuge it and then extract and purify liver- and blood-forming stem cells. They inject the cells into the livers of newborn mice, and allow those mice to mature. The resulting animals are the only ‘humanized’ mice with both functioning human liver and immune cells and, for Su, they are invaluable in his work on hepatitis B and C, allowing him to probe how the viruses evade the human immune system and cause chronic liver diseases.

“Using fetal tissue is not an easy choice, but so far there is no better choice,” says Su, who has tried, and failed, to make a humanized mouse with other techniques. “Many, many biomedical researchers depend on fetal tissue research to really save human lives,” he says. “And I think many of them feel the same way.”

An explosive climate has surrounded US research with fetal tissues since July, when an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress in Irvine, California, released covertly filmed videos in which senior physicians from the Planned Parenthood Federation of America bluntly and dispassionately discussed their harvesting of fetal organs from abortions for use in research. Planned Parenthood is a non-profit women’s health provider that received US$528 million of government money in 2014, much of it in reimbursements for services ranging from contraception to cancer screenings, which it provides largely to poor women. Abortions, which are performed at about half of Planned Parenthood’s 700 clinics, constitute 3% of its services. A handful of clinics in two states supply fetal tissue for research.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-fetal-tissue-research/

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 24, 2021 1:28 pm

Last week the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency were threatening to revoke the licence to practice of anyone who went against the Convid narrative. This week they’re emailing for help –

Dear practitioner
We are writing to you because you’re a practitioner who recently ceased your registration or changed to non-practising registration.
We have established a new temporary pandemic response sub-register (the 2021 sub-register) and have re-registered you to it. This is in response to the changing needs of Australia’s health system due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
The 2021 sub-register will provide a surge workforce and make more practitioners available to help our health system for the next 12 months. 

And they’re getting desperate –

You can temporarily return to practice for up to 12 months if you choose to, without having to pay registration fees.  

And just to encourage you a bit more cos we know you loved your jobs and are dying to get back ASAP –
If you are unable to or don’t want to join the surge workforce, you need to opt out of the 2021 sub-register. By staying on the sub-register, you are indicating that you are or will be available to be contacted about helping with your local COVID-19 response.

Thought about that for a fraction of a second, not til they have all resigned or preferably been sacked.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2021 1:28 pm

Babasays:
September 24, 2021 at 12:54 pm
“Don’t overwhelm the ‘elf system”.

Too many nurses appear to regard an occupied bed as a personal affront or harassment.

Another episode of Yes Prime Minister turns out to be prophetic.

Zipster
September 24, 2021 1:31 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 24, 2021 1:32 pm

Rukshan went off air for a while being interviewed on Fox News USA by Laura Ingraham.

Fat chick with a megaphone screeching not helping atm – she got carried away by plod yesterday.

But now yelling not to confront plod and pick up any rubbish – maybe she learnt from yesterday.

Barry
Barry
September 24, 2021 1:34 pm

Shy Ted says:
September 24, 2021 at 1:28 pm

This the fluffy bunny variety of conscription to avoid 51(xxiiiA) problems.
Leather kosh version next, then the cold steel.

Zipster
September 24, 2021 1:34 pm

Anyone know how to contact Rukshan?

you can try messaging him on socialist media
https://www.facebook.com/therealrukshan

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 1:35 pm

Let me ask you Arky.

If a very close family member of yours was diagnosed with an incurable illness and there was a new life saving drug on the market that had been produced the way described. What would you do?

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2021 1:36 pm

Right about now would be a really, really good time to get out of the stock market, and opening a Westpac GoldPass trading bank account.

I want advice if I should lend tokens to Parallel Finance or Acala.

Faulty? Please advise.

duncanm
duncanm
September 24, 2021 1:37 pm

Topher is right.

Civil disobedience by the masses is the way.

As he says: “Good people break bad laws”

johanna
johanna
September 24, 2021 1:39 pm

That’s yesterday’s, Toad.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 1:39 pm

“Another leftist sees the light
Michael Rectenwald: The US Undergoing a ‘Soft Cultural Revolution’ Towards Socialism | CLIP”

I’ve been following Rectenwald for the last few years. He’s an interesting guy. He was silenced by his university three years ago. Interesting guy….he knows all about critical theory, he knows how the post-modernists operate and he knows about progressivism and how progressives operate.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 24, 2021 1:40 pm

It was damned cold that exercise, and I felt a slight twinge of regret when I threw the contents away and rinsed the cup out…

Women caught short often have no other option but to put a cup up close and personal.

I have found it is very useful to have a four-door vehicle. You open both doors on one side and you have a semi-cubicle in which to pee crouched down on the roadside. Good for travellers.

Meanwhile – face mask report. Just about everyone in the inner city streets of Darlinghurst and Redfern are wearing masks outdoors. There is Covid in the public housing areas and people are scared, and Darlo of course has lots of lefties in it trending facemasks as fashionable virtue items.

Traffic is back to heavy in the trip from Vaucluse to the inner city and return.
People seem to be going about business as normal, a lot of shops open, regardless of lockdown.

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 1:41 pm

But now yelling not to confront plod and pick up any rubbish – maybe she learnt from yesterday.

Yes, because that’s an instruction to every demo in Melbourne since the year dot.

Oh, wait. No it isn’t.

Don’t be intimidated by the Litter Nazis. They’ll never expect that from environmental or race or union demonstrators. Or even NYE crowds. Their rubbish picks itself up as if by magic.

JC
JC
September 24, 2021 1:44 pm

Fellow trader dude, just sent me this email. Americans appear to be waking up to what’s happening downunder and can’t believe it.

Have you seen my Twitter with all of the Australian police committing violence against citizens? I can’t believe my eyes. How are local police so subservient to the state?

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2021 1:47 pm

How are local police so subservient to the state?

Because they are naught but fkg dogs. Still no sympathy for any VikStasi “members”. Whatever harm befalls them , I couldn’t give a toss.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 24, 2021 1:48 pm

How are local police so subservient to the state?

Training.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 1:48 pm

Gab says:
September 24, 2021 at 1:23 pm

Anyone know how to contact Rukshan? There’s a US site (very popular but definitely not MSM) who have asked me if they can interview Rukshan.

I don’t know myself, but if you cannot get him directly, can you message Topher Field, or even Avi (who might be harder to contact?!).

As much as I wonder what Sydney Watson can achieve doing what she’s doing now, maybe her new show is an option for Rukshan also?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 24, 2021 1:48 pm

wot makka said

Rabz
September 24, 2021 1:49 pm

How are local police so subservient to the state?

Being a pack of gutless thuggish morons helps.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
September 24, 2021 1:50 pm

Fellow trader dude, just sent me this email. Americans appear to be waking up to what’s happening downunder and can’t believe it.

Have you seen my Twitter with all of the Australian police committing violence against citizens? I can’t believe my eyes. How are local police so subservient to the state?

Americans with city and county police may not understand that Australian police are state-based and are directly employed by state governments.

Zipster
September 24, 2021 1:55 pm

On biotech… I’m thinking of going full kamikaze and tipping 30% of my net worth into biotech ETFs.

why?

JMH
JMH
September 24, 2021 1:56 pm

Topher is right.

Civil disobedience by the masses is the way.

As he says: “Good people break bad laws”

Yes, I agree. My modus operandi for months.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 1:56 pm

My empathy to you Mole. I’m in a similar situation, but without any specialist skills to transfer elsewhere. I’ve just received confirmation that on the 1st of October, I’ll be stood down on paid leave until that expires. Then I’ll be placed on unpaid leave indefinitely until I cave in. This means they do not have to justify dismissing me, and nor can I claim unemployment benefits (which I really, really don’t want to have to do), because I’m technically still employed. Stuck in the gutter. Noice.

Up until now, I’ve been very lucky, and I know that in comparison to some, I’ll still be lucky, but that really doesn’t help.

Overhearing anal infections in the gym vomit on about how ‘they’re all fake tradies, blah blah …’ hasn’t improved my mood!

Sorry, this was meant to be a message of empathy… Back to me now!

politichix
politichix
September 24, 2021 1:57 pm

I think the health sector are doing rosters for next month and freaking when they realise how many of their staff will still be unvaccinated by the 30 Sep deadline. Mad scramble to reregister those who’ve recently left.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 1:57 pm

Hmmm, I forgot to paste the bit where Mole was stating his employment dilemma (as did someone else this morning; Gab?).

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 24, 2021 1:59 pm

Rukshan’s live feed walking around the city is deeply disturbing.

Every citizen is stopped and asked for their papers, surrounded by a number of millennial VicStasi.

There are lots of journos walking around and recording the interactions.

I see the Age photographer who was pepper sprayed is prowling. I bet he has the shits big time with plod.

Patton calls this new tactics.

It is new if you call having the embarrassment and of this police state ghost city beamed across the globe.

TaliDan and his state guards are shaming our nation.

Zipster
September 24, 2021 1:59 pm

Topher is right.

Civil disobedience by the masses is the way.

As he says: “Good people break bad laws”

take every fine to court, and appeal every decision, clog up the system

Arky
September 24, 2021 2:01 pm

JCsays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:35 pm
Let me ask you Arky.

If a very close family member of yours was diagnosed with an incurable illness and there was a new life saving drug on the market that had been produced the way described. What would you do?

..
I only have the right to decide for myself, not anyone else, including family.
I might well take such a drug if it was at a time when family still required my support, but it would be a horrid choice.
If it was just me alone, then absolutely not.
I certainly won’t be knowingly investing in the companies that put us in this situation, which is why I have not bought biotech yet, even though I looked at it last year. You can find companies that don’t use fetal tissue. I just haven’t looked too much yet.

struth
struth
September 24, 2021 2:01 pm

You go out and stand at your cenotaph and ask forgiveness from the Anzacs for being cowards.
Then you turn around and continue to ignore the ever changing communist dictates and scream at and fight any Karen , male or female that tries to reprimand you. Get fines and pile them up, and take them to court.
If found guilty pay 5 bucks a week.
There are no other options.
You must fight and threaten and do whatever you need to do to your fellow Australians following this communist nonsense.
You either disobey and fight them, which, once a majority ignores the dictates, they’ll go to water, or you’ll be under the yoke of armed communists that you will not be able to fight.
Face the Karens or face the communists.
You haven’t got much time.
Get those white rose stickers out everywhere and if a Karen approaches you, go off your fucking dial at them. The best form of defense with them is attack.
Silence a Karen or lose your country.
If they dob you in, they must think twice because they know your just the type that will burn their house down.
Follow them, stalk them.
They are the troops of the enemy.
Find out where they live.
Have some fun.

struth
struth
September 24, 2021 2:03 pm
Makka
Makka
September 24, 2021 2:03 pm

TaliDan and his state guards are shaming our nation.

Let’s not forget the fkg morons who voted this dead set piece of excrement into office and maintain him there. Namely the majority of voting age adults in Sicktoria. They are as responsible for what is happening as this despicable Govt and their Blackshirt Stasi thugs.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 2:04 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
It’s real cloak and dagger stuff…..the “Melbourne resistance”….and Rukshan, Topher and Avi are partisans.

Partisans cannot operate effectively (for long) without a support network that provides intelligence (and internal security), supplies, logistics, etc.

Is this going to be a learning experience for us?

John H.
John H.
September 24, 2021 2:05 pm

Zipstersays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:31 pm
Another leftist sees the light
Michael Rectenwald: The US Undergoing a ‘Soft Cultural Revolution’ Towards Socialism | CLIP

He stopped being leftist at least a decade ago. He was a Marxist. He was an FBF when the shift occurred. I offered some advice which he appreciated.

duncanm
duncanm
September 24, 2021 2:06 pm

Struth,

I like your thinking.

Karen’s are emboldened by their a) sex, and b) protection from violence in a public space.

Let them think they’ve lost those.. and they’ll hide in their burrows before you can say boo.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 24, 2021 2:06 pm

Patton calls this new tactics.

It is new if you call having the embarrassment and of this police state ghost city beamed across the globe.

TaliDan and his state guards are shaming our nation.

A like just isn’t enough. Watching this stasi stuff is horrifying.

Couldn’t happen here, right?

duncanm
duncanm
September 24, 2021 2:06 pm

” Karens’ ” of course… </pedantry>

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 2:09 pm

Fat chick with a megaphone screeching not helping atm – she got carried away by plod yesterday.

Don’t talk about monty like that.

duncanm
duncanm
September 24, 2021 2:09 pm

Check out Avi’s youtube, too.

Ironic that VicStasi’s new RV is labelled ‘rescue vehicle’ on the side – as they pop rounds into people from the top hatch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVE_6fVt17I

I keep hankering for a bit of “Die Hard” action. “The police have got themselves an RV!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFNmmoa0Nc8

(nadt)

struth
struth
September 24, 2021 2:09 pm

The partisans are using the digital world.
The CCC have control of the digital world.
the protests can’t be organised when you are talking to each other and the enemy are listening.
This is the digital war upon freedom.
You have no other option but to disobey, and fight the obedient.
No one is going to be able to organise anything.
Maybe between yourselves and a few friends you can pull stunts to find out who the Karens are in your neighborhood and deal with them but the partisans as you call them, won’t be around much longer.
We all know that surely by now.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2021 2:14 pm

Muddy..
Constructive dismissal is 2 words you should work into a conversation.
From ambulance chasers…
https://www.perthemploymentlawyers.com.au/what-qualifies-as-a-constructive-dismissal-claim/?campaignid=10954299263&adgroupid=119733152144&creative=478642770372&matchtype=b&network=g&device=c&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjwy7CKBhBMEiwA0Eb7aq-KYcEVXq1ugNgfmdEVcBugrrhsLjDqtp2V9A2PGe1VaOQjbmkFJhoC6NAQAvD_BwE

A constructive dismissal is a forced resignation. The employee resigned because the employer acted with an intent to end the working relationship. The employee was left with no real choice but to resign. Thus, the resignation was not at the employee’s own initiative.
….
Another factual example of constructive dismissal is when the employee has not been paid his wages for four months. At the end of the four months, he received only half the pay that was owing to him. He told his manager that he was quitting his job. This is an example of a forced resignation. The resignation was not voluntary on the part of the employee. The employee resigned only because the situation at work was unbearable – he was not being paid his wages.

or
https://www.fwc.gov.au/unfair-dismissals-benchbook/what-is-dismissal/forced-resignation

or
https://www.fwc.gov.au/termination-of-employment/unfair-dismissal

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 24, 2021 2:15 pm

incoherent ramblersays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:48 pm
How are local police so subservient to the state?

Training

Indoctrination.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 2:15 pm

Maybe it’s time to redefine ‘underground’ Struth.
These things have been done before, without the same level of technology.
When do we stop saying ‘Things are bad, but not yet bad enough?’

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2021 2:19 pm

Official Sicktoria theme song..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4

This town (town) is coming like a ghost town
All the clubs have been closed down
This place (town) is coming like a ghost town
Bands won’t play no more
Too much fighting on the dance floor
Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town?
We danced and sang as the music played in any boomtown
This town (town) is coming like a ghost town
Why must the youth fight against themselves?
Government leaving the youth on the shelf
This place (town) is coming like a ghost town
No job to be found in this country
Can’t go on no more
The people getting angry
This town is coming like a ghost town
This town is coming like a ghost town
This town is coming like a ghost town
This town is coming like a ghost town

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 2:21 pm

Thanks, Mole.
The ‘constructive dismissal’ bit is interesting. I’ll look more into that.
I’m considering participating in a class action, but I’m not sure how much this is going cost, and what the chances are.
Australia is well and truly arkyed.

Woolfe
Woolfe
September 24, 2021 2:23 pm

Muddy, get a PDF of someones vaccine certificate and change it using Microsoft paint 3D.

struth
struth
September 24, 2021 2:23 pm

I understand you guys know from what you have seen of me, that I am your typical stocky truckie looking bloke.
So I have never been threatened by anyone when I haven’t worn masks or not signed in.
I’ve had a few Karens think twice about confronting me, for not QR coding but as I am so absolutely ready to go off my dial at anyone who dares open their mouth they think twice.
Because that’s truly how I feel.
It’s not an act.
They get the “you better think twice” .
He he.
It’s in your attitude.
In the NT, blackfellas harassing people can immediately tell a local from a tourist, because they can see we’ll take no shit.
People now must adopt this, no matter how scared you might be underneath.
Get a fine for your country.
Clog the courts, not your veins.
SlapaKaren for Australia.
Somebody here was saying bikies just walked into their local Dans….
I get that it is fine for us blokes and those ladies it’s much harder, but in a way it isn’t.
People can hit me.
They can’t, or shouldn’t be physically violent with you.
Unfortunately, this has now gone too far, so you must fight for your freedom.
Freedom is in your mind.
If you believe you are free you are.
If you believe rightly that the people chastising you about following orders of criminals are your enemy and will destroy you and your family with their attitude, it’s take no prisoners time.
There are a lot of bigger blokes out there than me.
I may lose a fight.
But there will be one before I back down.

Fuck these imbeciles….it’s your turn to be offended.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 24, 2021 2:25 pm

Johanna – just realised coverage was yesterday ffs

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 24, 2021 2:27 pm

calli says:
September 24, 2021 at 11:16 am

The Garden State is now the Police State.

Time for some new numberplates

Dan fixed that soon after he came to power.

VICTORIA – THE EDUCATION STATE

Not everyone realised what he meant by ‘education’. Some still don’t.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 2:28 pm

Rory update.
90 days NSW lockdown (as of last night).
13275 deaths.
277 from/with COVID.
2.1% of all NSW deaths from/with COVID.

Today I saw a coffee shop a block away (not the one that I’m trying to keep afloat by drinking a dangerous amount of coffee when I’m town) being cleared out.
Who knows what the back story is, but it can’t be good.
Times that by 10,000 in small business in NSW.

politichix
politichix
September 24, 2021 2:28 pm

Muddy, not sure what your actual role is but the alternate nurses union in QLD is running a WHS legal strategy. The union looks after other health roles.

struth
struth
September 24, 2021 2:29 pm

Muddy, I believe the answer of any organising may lie with us.
Old fashioned communications may be the trick.
The young men and people on those protests wouldn’t know what a stamp for a letter was.
They are lost without the digital world.
As planned.
But we, the old bastards, the seniors of our society do know, and have for many years survived without mobile phones or bloody colour tv for that matter.
We should be organising and thinking up ways to communicate “underground” because our enemy, like those young people are also absolutely connected to the digital world and would be totally lost without it.
I have been waiting 18 months for people to know for sure that this is not about a virus.
We are at the 11th hour.

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 2:34 pm

Is there something going on at Northcote? A lot of helicopter activity there.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 2:36 pm

I’ve just read more on that Perth Employment Lawyers website you linked to, Mole. It’s not looking good. There are a handful of examples about the mandatory flu vax in aged care, and all ended badly for the employees. The notion that being vaccinated protects others seems to be deeply ingrained.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2021 2:37 pm

Muddy, I think fair work is first port of call.

Id expect to be disappointed though as the slithering slime are bound to have introduced some sort of ’emergency power” to remove justice.

shatterzzz
September 24, 2021 2:38 pm

Shopping in Fairfield this morning and can’t believe how many SE Asians are not only wearing, the usual, face nappies but plastic full face shields .. Thankfully the religion of pieces isn’t adopting this dress .. masks below mouth are more in style … LOL!

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 2:38 pm

The point with the flu is that if you’re vaxxed, you’re unlikely to get it and then pass it on to others.

The Covid vax doesn’t do that. You can get it, or spread it even though your vaxxed. Various reports on viral loads from less than unvaxxed to identical.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2021 2:39 pm

Call for cops to unleash water cannons at protests
The former head of Victoria Police’s riot squad wants water cannons used on unruly protesters and says if that plan isn’t approved police needed to get “real serious with the tear gas”.

FOAD you dog.

Behind Enemy Lines
Behind Enemy Lines
September 24, 2021 2:39 pm

struthsays:
September 24, 2021 at 2:29 pm
. . . We are at the 11th hour.

Yes.

Everyone in uniform and everyone in the political class has crossed the line in these last few days.

Every. Last. One.

The ones demanding papers.

The ones shooting unarmed people in the back with rounds that most emphatically can kill you.

The ones lying to us about it all on the TV news.

The ones nominally governing this police dictatorship, who are standing back and either allowing it or encouraging it.

Every.

Last.

One.

We now have a police dictatorship in Victoria. The question is whether Australians will allow it to stand.

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 2:41 pm

you’re

Sheesh.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 2:42 pm

It got zero coverage, but the CFMEU offices in Pyrmont had a ring of NSW Plod around it on Tuesday.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 2:43 pm

Your welcome.

h/t Malice.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 24, 2021 2:43 pm

A mere suggestion

Asimov is pointing out the benefit of unemotional thinking over emotional thinking – something greatly needed in the current circumstances.

I do not believe that Asimov ever thought “unemotional thinking” triumphs over “emotional thinking”.

His whole Hari Seldon ‘psychohistory’ type schtick was to place human emotion front and centre as the most important thought processes.

We already have governments run and controlled by ‘unemotional’ thinkers.

Why do you think he ‘invested’ his final Robots with human emotion?

Delta A
Delta A
September 24, 2021 2:43 pm

A FINAL WARNING TO HUMANITY

Wow.

Thanks, Gab.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 2:45 pm

Thanks, Mole.
I’ve done a bit of background reading, and I don’t expect to get anywhere with Fair Work. These state public health directions seem to override practically every other piece of legislation. I really don’t want to have to cave in, but my chances of other employment are slim, and my financial situation not so comfortable. I’ll see how things go next week and then decide. (I was hoping the Novavax would be available by now, as I would consider that as an option, but that seems unlikely).

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 2:46 pm

JC says:
September 24, 2021 at 12:30 pm

For instance, years back before the undercover videos showing the commercial trade of aborted baby parts for big pharma & biotech companies, JC & other used to spriuk for the wisdom of investing in Biotech.

Yea, like it hasn’t been a great investment.

I never said biotech wasn’t a great financial investment for those who don’t have a problem with profiting from industries directly connected to the Big Baby Parts Industry or from Globally Mandated Jabs.

In fact I said just that, which also sent the perpetually outraged into mega outrage, but then that’s what they do, rage at the ‘other’ (no matter how much they agree with a point), simply for the ‘other’ existing.

They should probably read more books about what their behaviours did to families like mine and the friends & neighbours who didn’t escape.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 2:48 pm

calli says:
September 24, 2021 at 2:38 pm

The point with the flu is that if you’re vaxxed, you’re unlikely to get it and then pass it on to others.

Really? It’s still possible to catch the flu from a person who has had the flu vaccine though, right?

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 2:49 pm

I thought not, Muddy. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Are there flu “carriers”?

struth
struth
September 24, 2021 2:49 pm

Get a fine for Australia.
Get two.
Freedom is in your heart.
Take them to court.
Have the cops running around after your false reports then go in the other direction.

Enough.
No one can take your freedom unless they physically take it, which they will do, if you let it die in your heart.
Breath in freedom and get out there and have some fun.
You are smart people.
You are free and you have an enemy to conquer just like the French resistence.
Time to make fun of these pricks Australian style.
Good ideas will catch on.
We lose by taking them seriously.
All your right wing feelings regarding small government and truly virtuous people not needing to be controlled are correct.
You are free the second you decide to be.
You have an enemy trying to take it by bluff, because, in reality, they can’t take it by force.
You must willingly submit for them to be able to take your freedom.

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 2:50 pm

Asymptomatic vaccinated flu carriers.

politichix
politichix
September 24, 2021 2:51 pm

The Health Directives still need to follow WHS legislation which requires a Risk Assessment being done for each business unit/ward and need to have meaningfully engaged with their employees regarding that risk.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 24, 2021 2:52 pm

Do not overcome evil with evil. Overcome evil with good.

That goes against my family traditions.
Instead, evil should be met with such violence, viciousness and overwhelming force, that nobody will consider committing another evil act for a century or two.
Tyrants of the last century were not overthrown by reasoned argument.

Megan
Megan
September 24, 2021 2:53 pm

Note to NOT Liberty Vic: Freedom but…is not Freedom at all.

You bunch of gutless tools of the dictatorial state.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 2:54 pm

Every single human rights organisation in this country…and particularly the great spruikers of “ooman rights”…such as Burnside, Triggs, Souphalfarse and others have been silent about the elimination of our fundamental rights.

This of course further emboldens those who want to denounce & “unperson” business & other rivals, knowing that they can get away with that shit now and ‘make hay while the fascist sun shines’.

duncanm
duncanm
September 24, 2021 2:55 pm

Struth,

Aussie Cossack has the right idea. He has half of Burwood LAC running after him most days.

Two or three people like that and the system collapses.

Zipster
September 24, 2021 2:55 pm

Do not overcome evil with evil. Overcome evil with good.

Peace in our times!

JMH
JMH
September 24, 2021 2:55 pm

We now have a police dictatorship in Victoria. The question is whether Australians will allow it to stand.

If this country had any spine left, everyone should down tools until situations return to normal – particularly in Victoria. Perhaps Scumo might open his bloody eyes.

A good dose of suffering for a while might knock some sense into ill-informed, compliant brains.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 2:56 pm

“This of course further emboldens those who want to denounce & “unperson” business & other rivals, knowing that they can get away with that shit now and ‘make hay while the fascist sun shines’.”

Yes Nong, you know a lot about fascism.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 2:57 pm

Do not overcome evil with evil. Overcome evil with good.

“Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil.
For thou art with me.
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life.
Because I carry a big stick and I’m the meanest mother fucker in the valley!”

shatterzzz
September 24, 2021 2:58 pm

Topher is right.
Civil disobedience by the masses is the way.
As he says: “Good people break bad laws”
Yes, I agree. My modus operandi for months.

I’ve been operating in my own way since the 1st GLADYS rules came out .. one of the minor advantages of being 73, an OAP & a houso is I’ve nuttin’ to lose .. they can fine me but ya can’t get blood out of a stone! I’v never used a QR scan or signed anywhere.. just walk in .. never cared that I live in one of GLADYS locked down LGAs .. I use my bike to get around so come & go as I like .. no plod out & about on bike tracks .. can only see one of the grandees anyway as the others are out of Sydney/interstate .. he’s only 20kms away .. easy ride ..!
I’ve no job to lose, I don’t drive so no licence to check/lose and to be honest a stint in gaol wouldn’t be to bad a deal .. I’ve a coupla old folk niggles, nuttin’ serious, but under our luv-thy-prisoner system I would expect priority elective surgery as well as three meals a day and laundry ect .. plus one of those peculiar HC rules(cos most folks don’t qualify).. if you live in NSW HC and are incarcerated you don’t lose your home you get reduced rent (used to be $5 a week may have changed) so that you aren’t homeless when you get out … LOL!
Can’t wait for GLADYS to mandate YELLOW STARS reckon they’ll be quite a fashion statement but if she mentions SHOWERS! … I go UNCLEAN …….. LOL!

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 2:58 pm

“Do not overcome evil with evil. Overcome evil with good.

Peace in our times!”

Quite so, you can’t overcome evil by turning the other cheek.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 24, 2021 2:59 pm

Do not overcome evil with evil. Overcome evil with good.

Yep. Hang the fuckers with good strong rope.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:00 pm

Woolfe says:
September 24, 2021 at 2:23 pm
Muddy, get a PDF of someones vaccine certificate and change it using Microsoft paint 3D.

Oh. Interesting.

politichix says:
September 24, 2021 at 2:28 pm
Muddy, not sure what your actual role is but the alternate nurses union in QLD is running a WHS legal strategy. The union looks after other health roles.

Thanks, politichix. I’ll try to find out about that. I know there is a class action proposed against Qld Health, but I have no details of it yet.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:00 pm

“Yep. Hang the fuckers with good strong rope.”

I still like the idea of a pyre.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 24, 2021 3:02 pm

From a link upthread, showing what the International viewpoint is on us:

This all in a week when the Australian government announced a partnership with both the U.S. and the U.K. in a strategic pact aimed at curbing the growing threat of Chinese communism. Although such a move is undoubtedly commendable, it is somewhat ironic given that in China, where life has largely returned to normal, the Chinese people currently have more freedom than their Australian counterparts.

Australia is meant to be one of the leaders of the free world and must therefore be held to even higher standards than countries with a history of despotism. Whether this comes in the form of boycotts, diplomatic warnings, or even targeted sanctions against the responsible officials, a very simple point must be made; the free world will not stand by in silence as the human rights of the Australian people are so aggressively undermined.

ScoMo, they see the Prime Minister as to blame.

Isn’t it about time you said something about what is going on in Victoria????

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 24, 2021 3:02 pm

I like the idea of dumping all these pricks on some island with nothing.

twostix
twostix
September 24, 2021 3:03 pm

Barnaby Joyce, who looks increasingly like a thick sausage that’s about to split open, condemns the ‘far right’ protestors ‘desecrating’ war mem…blah, blah, blah low energy dying of boredom fail.

Barnaby you fool, don’t you see you how you got delilahed! Where did your power go??

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 24, 2021 3:04 pm

That goes against my family traditions.
Instead, evil should be met with such violence, viciousness and overwhelming force, that nobody will consider committing another evil act for a century or two.

but isn’t what you suggest actually “good” and will save the innocent?

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2021 3:05 pm

Every single human rights organisation in this country…and particularly the great spruikers of “ooman rights”…such as Burnside, Triggs, Souphalfarse and others have been silent about the elimination of our fundamental rights.

Not quite…Liberty Victoria has been issuing statements about how proportionate the measures have all been, inclduing Vikpol’s antics.

In return, they would like Vikpol not to use rubber bullets and tear gas when the right (i.e. the left) people protest in future.

Yes, that’s actually what they’ve been saying.

One wonders if anyone in that organisation ever has an “Are we the baddies?” moment.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:05 pm

calli says:
September 24, 2021 at 2:49 pm
I thought not, Muddy. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Are there flu “carriers”?

Not sure, Calli. That’s why I was asking you. Sincere question. I thought maybe I’d been getting it wrong all these years.

shatterzzz
September 24, 2021 3:05 pm

If you can’t work out who to vote for .. this bloke is worth lookin gat .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/gtRzHm7

twostix
twostix
September 24, 2021 3:05 pm

Any organisation or group with “Liberty” in it’s name is a leftwing conservacrop grift or leftwing front.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:05 pm

“Barnaby you fool, don’t you see you how you got delilahed! Where did your power go??”

As Sancho Panzer says, BJ has another twenty years of school fees, he doesn’t want to rock the boat, he wants to conform.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:07 pm

politichix says:
September 24, 2021 at 2:51 pm

The Health Directives still need to follow WHS legislation which requires a Risk Assessment being done for each business unit/ward and need to have meaningfully engaged with their employees regarding that risk.

I have a legal-type letter (just downloaded from a website) which states something similar. I’ll see if I can find it.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 24, 2021 3:07 pm

Gather round folks, today’s bible verse(s):

The Lord is your keeper;
the Lord is the shade on your right hand.
The sun will not strike you by day,
nor the moon by night.
The Lord will guard you from all evil;
He will preserve your soul.
The Lord will watch over your coming and going,
both now and forevermore.

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 3:08 pm

These instructions are on a personal level. You can’t expect an entire country to “turn the other cheek”, nor should they. Tyranny must be resisted and opposed and fought.

I take my instructions seriously, probably because I have so little self-control and such a short fuse. The other bit to the cheek turning is “ bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.”, and then this doozy:

1 Peter 3:9 Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.

Horrible, counter cultural stuff. 🙂

John H.
John H.
September 24, 2021 3:08 pm

it is somewhat ironic given that in China, where life has largely returned to normal, the Chinese people currently have more freedom than their Australian counterparts.

Whoever wrote that should look at some ADV China clips. People literally bricked into their homes.

the free world will not stand by in silence as the human rights of the Australian people are so aggressively undermined.

Bollocks.

P
P
September 24, 2021 3:09 pm
FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 24, 2021 3:09 pm

The only ‘far right’ in Australia are Nazi communists fighting ‘far left’ Marxist/Lenin/Mao communists.

politichix
politichix
September 24, 2021 3:12 pm

Muddy, zoom call at 4.00 discussing legal strategy – semi public. I can send details to Dover and he can send to you if interested?

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:12 pm

I would be keen for any critical feedback on the following, cut and pasted from Advocate Me, a Victorian organisation (which I know nothing about). Apologies for the length.

I note that I am part of a National Class Action organised through Advocate Me in Victoria, an advocacy service that is currently challenging the compulsory flu vaccination/COVID-19 mandates, on a number of grounds that they are contradictory to the Biosecurity Act 2015, not authorised by the Public Health and Emergency legislation and goes against the requirements of informed consent.

A vaccination mandate, including a testing or masking mandate, has to be targeted to an individual that presents signs and symptoms of the listed human disease and it must be as a result of a medical examination that would assess me as being a risk and would compel me personally via a biosecurity control order to be vaccinated. As part of this process, I would automatically be entitled to various rights including review rights and the right to a proper risk assessment.

In order for a Government or business to mandate masks (Section 88), PCR tests (Section 90) or vaccinations (Section 92), they need to impose on you a ‘human biosecurity control order (HBCO)’ (Section 60).

A Human Biosecurity Control Order (HBCO) is also required to enforce restrictive behaviours and isolation measures.

For your reference, I reproduce the provisions here: Biosecurity Act 2015 – https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2020C00127

Biosecurity Act 2015 (Section 60 – Human Biosecurity Control Order) –

Subsection (2) – A human biosecurity control order may be imposed on an individual only if the officer is satisfied that:

a. The individual has one or more signs or symptoms of a listed human disease; or
b. The individual has been exposed to:
i. a listed human disease; or
ii. another individual who has one or more signs or symptoms of a listed human disease; or
c. the individual has failed to comply with an entry requirement in subsection 44(6) in relation to a listed human disease.

RELEVANT SECTIONS

BIOSECURITY ACT 2015 SECTION 88 – MASKS

An individual may be required by a Human Biosecurity Control Order to wear either or both specified clothing and equipment that is designed to prevent a disease from emerging, establishing itself or spreading.

BIOSECURITY ACT 2015 SECTION 90 – PCR TESTS
Undergoing an examination

An individual may be required by a Human Biosecurity Control Order to undergo, at a specified medical facility, a specified kind of examination relating to determining the presence in the individual of:
a. the listed human disease specified in the order; and
b. any other listed human disease.

BIOSECURITY ACT 2015 SECTION 92 – RECEIVING VACCINATIONS

An individual may be required by a Human Biosecurity Control Order to receive, at a specified medical facility:

a. a specified vaccination; or
b. a specified form of treatment;
c. in order to manage the listed human disease specified in the order, and any other listed human disease.

It is therefore evident that in the absence of being personally directed, I have the right to refuse the influenza/COVID-19 vaccination and you do not have the right to deny me access to my loved one/ employment.

However, to assist you in allowing me to have access to my family member/employment, I am happy to provide you a medical certificate confirming my health status that I do not currently present with either flu-like symptoms or COVID-19 symptoms.

I note here that the influenza vaccination has not been shown to reduce the risk of hospitalisation and does not protect fully from getting influenza and/or preventing transmission and/or I note here that I have enclosed a COVID-19 declination letter that details all the safety and efficacy risks involved with taking the vaccination as well as a further research paper that details all the risks with COVID-19 vaccinations. The only appropriate assessment for that purpose is to ensure that I am not currently sick. This is what will protect your residents and other employees. To that end, I am happy to provide proof of that.

I have the basic human right to refuse to be vaccinated and urge that you refrain from using coercive or punitive tactics, when there is clearly no law supporting your policy.
I thereby request immediate access to my loved one in your aged care facility/return to employment and look forward to your prompt response by email.

Mater
September 24, 2021 3:13 pm

LOL!
Mockery is a powerful tool.
This bloke’s got it right.

https://twitter.com/_dee_1982/status/1440667624883449864?s=10

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 3:13 pm

Told youse something was happening in Northcote. The helicopters’ flight paths looked like a ball of string.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2021 3:14 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

September 24, 2021 at 1:59 pm

Rukshan’s live feed walking around the city is deeply disturbing.

Every citizen is stopped and asked for their papers, surrounded by a number of millennial VicStasi.

This will be followed by that tilty-headed grinning idiot mayor, Sally Crapp, imploring people to come back into “our vibrant, multi-culti most liveable evah” city centre.

struth
struth
September 24, 2021 3:15 pm

Saturday, The 2nd of October is
National Disobedience day.
From this day, Aussies refuse to take anymore orders from the tyrannical , unconstitutional governments of Australia.
You are free if you believe you are.
Risk a fine you won’t have to pay anyway,
for Australia.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:15 pm

politichix says:
September 24, 2021 at 3:12 pm.

Thanks, but embarrassingly, I don’t know how to do the zoom thing. I’d be interested in the results if there is any significant outcome. I’ll email Dover and give permission for my email to be released to you if there is anything you’re unable to state here. I appreciate your assistance.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 3:16 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
September 24, 2021 at 12:38 pm
“I remember hearing it first hand from parents, grand parents, uncles, aunts, cousins & siblings.”

Yes, I’m sure they told you lots of stories about the Ustaša.

Actually, my mother was so traumatised by her life under communism that she needed to talk about it and convinced herself that it was OK to make her life stories my bedtime stories.

After all, I was a crippled kid only given 5% chance of ever walking, so she figured (rightly as it turned out), that I should know to be grateful for any life, no matter how hard.

Being the crippled kid, I couldn’t escape the rooms when the old men got into their very heated discussions of what was evil & what was justified warfare.

I grew up knowing that evil often put on the nicest front and to thank God for hard men who did hard things for the sake of the weak & unvalued by all but God.

politichix
politichix
September 24, 2021 3:17 pm

Muddy, I’ve sent details to Dover

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 3:18 pm

Ahaha! That mini trumpet player is solid gold! 😀

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:18 pm

Thanks, politichix. Much appreciated.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:20 pm

“srrsays:
September 24, 2021 at 3:16 pm
Cassie of Sydneysays:
September 24, 2021 at 12:38 pm
“I remember hearing it first hand from parents, grand parents, uncles, aunts, cousins & siblings.”

Yes, I’m sure they told you lots of stories about the Ustaša.

Actually, my mother was so traumatised by her life under communism that she needed to talk about it and convinced herself that it was OK to make her life stories my bedtime stories.

The Ustaša weren’t communists, they were a fascist organisation. You really are a nong.

politichix
politichix
September 24, 2021 3:20 pm

you just click a link!

Anyway, if you get the details have a go but I’ll see if I can get something to you. I think the general view with the other strategies is that they will take too long and have reduced chances of success given the Emergency thingy

duncanm
duncanm
September 24, 2021 3:20 pm

One of the Cossack’s latest.. the amount of police time he wastes is wonderful to behold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rythLqLwoo

Might have even got a blush out of the female constable regarding instructions on which way to lick.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2021 3:21 pm

incoherent ramblersays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:48 pm
How are local police so subservient to the state?

More than fifteen years of loading the top ranks of the Stasi with far left activists and crooks ensures that no-one with a balanced and professional view of the job remains.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:23 pm

“More than fifteen years of loading the top ranks of the Stasi with far left activists and crooks ensures that no-one with a balanced and professional view of the job remains.”

yep……just look at what happened to Cardinal Pell.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:27 pm

Thanks politichix.

I’ll keep an eye on my email.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 24, 2021 3:28 pm

yep……just look at what happened to Cardinal Pell.

catholics control the vik

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 24, 2021 3:29 pm

communist catholics that is

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:31 pm

““More than fifteen years of loading the top ranks of the Stasi with far left activists and crooks ensures that no-one with a balanced and professional view of the job remains.””

And it isn’t only the police that’s been stacked with far-left activists…it’s the judiciary.

You can thank God that Pell, for his appeal, had Weinberg on the bench, since retired. The HC decided to hear Pell’s case only due to Weinberg’s dissertation.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 3:31 pm

Gabsays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:23 pm

Anyone know how to contact Rukshan? There’s a US site (very popular but definitely not MSM) who have asked me if they can interview Rukshan.

If you do know, send it to Dover who can forward on to me. Ta

He has an email address posted at his facebook, try there, but no doubt it will be pretty chockers now, so if the people wanting to contact him have a Good, Known name, they should use it in the subject.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2021 3:31 pm

hmmm, cant find a downfall parody maker that works…

was going to have a danfall parody.

Muddy
Muddy
September 24, 2021 3:33 pm

struth says:
September 24, 2021 at 2:29 pm

Muddy, I believe the answer of any organising may lie with us.

Struth, I think there is a lot of potential in doing things the small and slow way.
Plus there’s disinformation.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2021 3:34 pm

Megansays:
September 24, 2021 at 2:53 pm
Note to NOT Liberty Vic: Freedom but…is not Freedom at all.

You bunch of gutless tools of the dictatorial state.

Pretty much every “civil liberties” organisation has been started as a means to advance the ambitions of the so-called “progressive” fascist left. Starting with Amnesty International.

Those not started with that purpose have been subverted to it. See the ACLU.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 24, 2021 3:35 pm

Gather round folks, today’s bible verse(s):

God helps those who help themselves.

He’s helped those who helped themselves to everything we used to own.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 24, 2021 3:35 pm

Where does Soros fit into the Jewish lexicon?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2021 3:35 pm

I missed Garrison doing the Australian cartoon..

https://grrrgraphics.com/crocodile-done-dee/

Most Americans feel an amity with Australians and it bothers us to see them oppressed by the jaws of tyranny. Covid has been used as an excuse to cancel their freedoms. They no longer have freedom of movement. They are tracked, monitored, controlled, and insulted. Their freedom of speech is squelched. And, of course their firearms were confiscated. Walkabout Creek has been replaced with the Lock ‘Em Up Swamp.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 3:37 pm

This is big enough to HUGE!
Thanks for posting it –

Shy Tedsays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:28 pm
Last week the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency were threatening to revoke the licence to practice of anyone who went against the Convid narrative. This week they’re emailing for help –
RTWT – https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/09/20/open-thread-mon-20-sept-2021/comment-page-15/#comment-24890

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:39 pm

“FlyingPigssays:
September 24, 2021 at 3:35 pm
Where does Soros fit into the Jewish lexicon?”

Ask Mrs Nong, she’ll consult her favourite anti-Semitic website for info.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 24, 2021 3:40 pm

If ScoMo hasn’t condemned Dan’s Stasi State, we have to suppose he’s happy to see it spread throughout Australia.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2021 3:40 pm

callisays:

September 24, 2021 at 3:13 pm

Told youse something was happening in Northcote. The helicopters’ flight paths looked like a ball of string.

There was a protest.
This is maybe significant.
Northcote is not black V8 ute, jetski, tradie country.
It is basket-weaving lefty lezzo green-left heartland, with a lot of ‘traditional’ anti-vaxxers.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 3:41 pm

Arkysays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:24 pm
Scientific American:
https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/09/20/open-thread-mon-20-sept-2021/comment-page-15/#comment-24888

And that’s the nice, Scientific American version of what Planned Parenthood & the Biotech Industries they supply baby parts for, say.

What investigators found & what people who left the industries in disgust have testified to, are much, much worse.

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 3:42 pm

Two helicopters to monitor a basket weavers’ protest? Sounds like a good use of police resources.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:42 pm

“There was a protest.
This is maybe significant.
Northcote is not black V8 ute, jetski, tradie country.
It is basket-weaving lefty lezzo green-left heartland, with a lot of ‘traditional’ anti-vaxxers.”

Is it Gad Kearney or Adam Bum’s electorate?

twostix
twostix
September 24, 2021 3:43 pm

LOL!
Mockery is a powerful tool.
This bloke’s got it right.

https://twitter.com/_dee_1982/status/1440667624883449864?s=10

In Melbourne right now they’d punch that trumpet into his face then beat the shit out of him.

Mockery only works in semi-civilised places.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2021 3:44 pm

If ScoMo hasn’t condemned Dan’s Stasi State, we have to suppose he’s happy to see it spread throughout Australia.

Scummo is on record for condemning the “protesters”. In effect backing the VikStasi with his silent approval of the Blackshirts. Scummo is well and truly an enemy of Freedom.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 24, 2021 3:48 pm

backing the VikStasi with his silent approval of the Blackshirts. Scummo is well and truly an enemy of Freedom.

We are gonna need a bigger tumbril.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2021 3:49 pm

yep……just look at what happened to Cardinal Pell.

I doubt there was anyone anywhere near that Taskforce who was anything but “whatever it takes” to get Pell.
I strongly believe the reason the media star of the show wilted under cross-exam and had trouble deciphering his/her/ze’s notes is because of the crippling fear that the back-channel communications between Plod, media, ambulance chasers and Mr J might be tumbled.
Let’s just say there was one person on that taskforce who was fair-minded. Assume that person pipes up at a meeting one day and says, “You know, J’s account is wobbly for reasons A, B and C”. Next day J’s statement would be amended to paper over the cracks and said officer would be processing speeding fines in Horsham.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2021 3:51 pm

Is it Gad Kearney or Adam Bum’s electorate?

Kearney.
Electorate of Cooper.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2021 3:52 pm

Matersays:
September 24, 2021 at 3:13 pm
LOL!
Mockery is a powerful tool.
This bloke’s got it right.

https://twitter.com/_dee_1982/status/1440667624883449864?s=10

Look at the police in that video. They are trudging past, shoulders slumped, morale in the pits.

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 3:53 pm

JCsays:
September 24, 2021 at 1:35 pm
Let me ask you Arky.

If a very close family member of yours was diagnosed with an incurable illness and there was a new life saving drug on the market that had been produced the way described. What would you do?

Lets take this hairy old philosophical trap and bring it into the here & now –

You, JC, actually love someone who urgently needs a transplant to live.

Waiting for a rare match to become available to you ahead of others who’ve waited longer and are in more viable need, is accepting a death sentence for the one you love.

OR, you, with all your wisely invested money, can Buy To Order, the perfect match from China who have the vitals of their prisoners & citizens on a very fast data base.

Do you place the order & hope they don’t kill a loved & healthy young mother to supply you?

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 24, 2021 3:54 pm

politichix says:
September 24, 2021 at 1:57 pm

I think the health sector are doing rosters for next month and freaking when they realise how many of their staff will still be unvaccinated by the 30 Sep deadline. Mad scramble to reregister those who’ve recently left.

What if those who left the profession did so to avoid the jab, either for themselves or because they couldn’t, in clear conscience, jab their patients?

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:55 pm

“I doubt there was anyone anywhere near that Taskforce who was anything but “whatever it takes” to get Pell.”

It was quite obvious from day one. Get Pell…whatever it takes. I still feel sick when I think of it.

caveman
caveman
September 24, 2021 3:55 pm

Remember these from the 2010 world cup, drove me insane.
vuvuzela

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2021 3:56 pm

“srrsays:
September 24, 2021 at 3:53 pm”

Philosophy isn’t your strong point Nong. Stick to pizzas.

rickw
rickw
September 24, 2021 3:56 pm

There was a protest.
This is maybe significant.
Northcote is not black V8 ute, jetski, tradie country.

Shit, even the communists think that this is to much communism!

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 24, 2021 3:59 pm

LOL!
Mockery is a powerful tool.
This bloke’s got it right.

All power to him! Magnificent!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 24, 2021 4:00 pm

Northcote is Grollo land

srr
srr
September 24, 2021 4:01 pm

struthsays:
September 24, 2021 at 2:03 pm

This is serious. Kids are dying.
Enough.

Facebook has a COMPLETE Block on it for Non-Facebookers.
Could you give us a quick rundown?

calli
calli
September 24, 2021 4:03 pm

According to Breitbart, in Italy it’s no jab, no pay. But they can keep their jobs, so that’s nice.

And, amazingly enough, it’s starting on October 15.

rickw
rickw
September 24, 2021 4:03 pm

LOL!
Mockery is a powerful tool.
This bloke’s got it right.

Should be blaring from every CBD apartment.

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