Trying to get the little bloke brought to work at lunchtime tomorrow so we can catch up in the carpark and I can show him what we do, and he can also see some planes taking off and landing (maybe!)

Guess how that’s working out? “It’s more than 15km…..”

Back in the good old days at Christmas they used to put all the kids on a bus, drive them airside around the whole airport so they could see their dads at work, and then bundle them off and let them stand under a 747. It was so casual that we even used to have our own airside pass book. What a great country it used to be!

If anyone is concerned about your future privacy and your rights…

Here are 15 relevant, current petitions closing at
midnight Wed 27oct21

?Remember to confirm each one before signing the next one, or your signature will not be valid.
.
Petitions EN3285 and EN3375 already have tens of thousands of signatures:

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3233
* Freedom of choice – Covid Vaccine

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3239
* Adopt Rapid Antigen Testing

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3241
* NO Vaccine Passport / National ID card

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3266
* End lockdowns, covid 19 principalities & campaigns, open borders

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3277
* Terminate the Covid19 Biosecurity Emergency

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3285
* Reject Biosecurity Ammendment Bill 2021

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3292
* Reject the Doherty Institute report

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3310
* NO COVID-19 Health Pass!

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3313
* Freedom of Vaccine Choice in Australia

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3315
* No vaccination passports or anything similar Australia wide.

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3350
* Stop Mandatory Covid-19 Vaccinations and Passports in Australia

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3352
* No to vaccine passports

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3375
* AHPRA edict silencing health practitioners

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3381
* AHPRA TO ALLOW HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO GIVE UNCENSORED MEDICAL ADVICE

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3364
* The Ivermectin Ban – an authoritarian threat to Public Health

Dover, can you please release the post I made at 9.55pm?

It is a list of Government petitions that people can sign before Oct 27.

“The Future is Han.”

Especially given China’s preferences in allocating employment to its own.

Han jobs.

Han jobs for everyone…

Rex Angersays:
October 12, 2021 at 10:06 pm
On China’s thermal coal conundrum. Rumours I heard was the buyers were getting round the Aussie import ban by buying off middlemen through mainly Indonesia, Aussie coal but laundered.

Ditto the grains. Via Cambodia and others, I believe…

So the middlemen buy the product here at the going rate, then add their 10% for the Big Guy, and on-sell to China. How’s that economic warfare going for you Xi?

But at least we avoided mention of box-cars, camp guards and piano wire today, so there’s that to be thankful for.

Hmmm…about time to poke the truck v train bear.

Hmmm…about time to poke the truck v train bear.

Woohoo!

***Complicated paperwork and trauma counselling intensifies***

Feelthebern:

The issue the Caledonia Hotel will run into will be their licensing.

Quite right – and the object lesson to the owner will be brutal.
But the object lesson to the public will be eye opening as to how far out of control these governments and bureaucrats are.

Cities across America are allocating higher budgets for law ­enforcement as the pendulum swings dramatically away from the “defund the police” movement.

Having driven out their experienced and professional law enforcement officers via early retirement or resignations in disgust, the Democrat city administrations can now fill the depleted ranks with their heavily indoctrinated young leftists.

Colour me surprised.

The indoctrinated, transgender, all inclusive police force is the best thing we can hope for when purge day arrives.

It will tip the odds a lot more in the favour of those defending freedom if they are facing off against overweight spineless weaklings.

Straight-A student, 16, is HANDCUFFED and led to jail by cops for trespassing on school grounds after being suspended for refusing to wear a face mask
Grace Smith, 16, has racked up three suspensions and $1K in trespassing fines
The unmasked junior was arrested after refusing to leave Laramie High Thursday
The self-described straight-A student believes that people should have ‘the freedom to wear a mask if they choose’
In a video, her father followed her into jail as she was perp-walked The school district has had a mask mandate in place since September 8
Last week, Wyoming had a seven-day average of 314.7 cases, up from 34.3 on April 18

Cohenite:

Interesting facts on the uniparty and the global elites:

Where did that come from?
I’m intrigued.

To my detractors:

I would like to go back to the study itself before saying anything more.

It was an ongoing cohort study. It was not a clinical randomised control trial, the best way of assessing outcomes, although some have now been set up. In a prospective cohort study, judged against wider population parameters for a given indice. Data is constantly incoming as pregnancies progress and the analysis is of a point-in-time nature, complicated by slowness in follow up.

The study looked at clinical data from 35,691 pregnant women but concentrated on 3958 pregnant women enrolled in a tracing registry. Among the 1224 pregnant women in this group who had been vaccinated before conception or in the first trimester, follow-up through to 20 weeks of gestation had been completed for only 204 pregnancies (an extremely low number which should never had been reported on at that stage). With those pregnancies of less than 20 weeks gestation, only ten were known to have ended (8 ectopics, 2 induced abortion) leaving 905 pregnancies in this early gestation where follow up had not occurred. A query was raised concerning the apparent denominator of 827 completed pregnancies against which an RR had been placed and it was agreed this figure could not indicate a risk estimate rate of spontaneous abortion, which occurred in 104 pregnancies in the first two categories which were incomplete. Clearly, the spontaneous abortion figure of 104 is meaningless unless related to the N=2139 which at the preliminary reporting stage was only partially followed up. Data from the missing 905 pregnancies has since been included in an updated analysis in which spontaneous abortion at <20 weeks gestation is established as consistent with the risks of abortion in the general population.

So that explains any inconsistencies in 'the denominator'. Basically, it was a study reported before all relevant data was available where the true denominator for the categories of up to 20 weeks gestation was 2139 and the numerator had still to be established. I first commented some weeks ago on a single page of this study in which it seemed to me that enthusiastic individuals were trying to 'fit' a numeric back-story of the critiqued denominator into two columns, one an RR for population in general and the other an RR for the cohort under study. If Timothy would like to put up his original link and the comment he made accompanying it and my response at the time I would be happy to explain how I analysed the single summary page presented there which did seem to be trying to ‘fit’ some of the numbers bandied about re this admittedly irregular denominator and its supposed numerator into the two column presentation, believing the two columns to be related within the one study. People who had half-heard of this mix up may have been those who were doing this; my surmising there. I have no idea when my initial response to Timothy’s claims of very high rates of spontaneous abortion was. I don’t live on this site, don’t recall all of its ins and outs, and also do not see everyone’s commentary. I certainly don’t jump to answer it when I am busy. I do not accept Timothy’s critique of the mode of this cohort selection, as the method is quite appropriate and useful for descriptive statistics of a cohort nature. It has been the implementation that has been at fault. As I say above, this is not an RCT, and Matrix asking me to put a logarithmic perspective on it simply shows his ignorance.

Timothy’s 1,2,3, faceplant nonsense is a sad picture of how unwilling people are to listen to each other here. There is probably more I could say about it all, but I will leave it at that.

‘It was’ a prospective cohort study

not ‘in a’

Yeah, that’s clear as.

Try harder, Arky. You can do it if you try.

I am simply responding to people who have insulted and abused me on this open thread so the response belongs here, to them and to the 21 people who egged them on with it. I am not at fault, not face-planting nor beclowning myself, as accused, and any fairminded person with a basic knowledge of cohort studies should not find the above material a difficult read.

Anti Semitism has never been welcome at the cat, and Graeme afaik has been here since the very beginning when fractional reserves were topic de jour, though since I arrived in late 2013 he was usually being booted as quickly as he reappeared.
What utter tosh you spout to defend the indefensible, and what could possibly be your motive to want the site awash with blatant disgraceful conspiracy laden antisemetism?

Someone on Sinc’s old blog made the observation that ssr is simply a smarter, more savvy version of Birdy.
She only hints at the more controversial issues, like saying ‘nothing to do with me’ only reporting, don’t shoot the messanger.

Knuckle Dragger says:
October 12, 2021 at 9:43 pm

You really are a hysterical sheila, aren’t you.

And as for you – sorry, not sorry. Enough of this, you take the last word then “nicely” tell me to stfu or I’m the baddie, BS –

calli says:
October 12, 2021 at 9:22 pm

Hang on, I didn’t read your whole post before returning the ‘courtesy’ with an apology, but now I see … you are very wrong about a lot and somehow now I’m not allowed to explain how.
How very clever of you.

Yet you quoted it.

Stop lying. Please. Now leave me alone.

I told you what was happening as it was happening.
I was tired, rushed & careless.

I was responding to the Hillery-esqueness of bundling “outcasts” up as “the baddies”, when especially in this current situation it is the very opposite.

You complained, I realised I didn’t edit out your name, started to apologise with the same haste then saw how you ended your complaint and now I have no doubt as to the difference between your online persona & the real world you.

“I quoted it.”, NO, I copy & pasted it, like most people do; copy from first to last word, paste it, then sometimes edit out the unnecessary bits.

As I was replying I saw ‘the unnecessary bit’ was actually KEY.
It supported what others also saw in your, “bless you”; someone who’s ‘blessings’ are intended to be a curse.

You can’t play the suffering saint, spit BS at someone and then demand they have no right of reply.
That’s not just cowardly, it’s Dan Andrews level of a little dictator denying the human right to protest the injustice of false accusations.

Gabor says:
October 13, 2021 at 12:32 am

Anti Semitism has never been welcome at the cat, and Graeme afaik has been here since the very beginning when fractional reserves were topic de jour, though since I arrived in late 2013 he was usually being booted as quickly as he reappeared.
What utter tosh you spout to defend the indefensible, and what could possibly be your motive to want the site awash with blatant disgraceful conspiracy laden antisemetism?

Someone on Sinc’s old blog made the observation that ssr is simply a smarter, more savvy version of Birdy.
She only hints at the more controversial issues, like saying ‘nothing to do with me’ only reporting, don’t shoot the messanger.

I’ve had a long & interesting life.
I’ve learned from a lot of very interesting people, but I don’t name drop like some.

Public forums are about sharing information, ideas & messages.
I mostly share links to things for others to think about for themselves or not, as they will.
However, when names on the net, particularly the same groups of names, consistently attack a poster personally while ignoring or mocking the content of their posts, it’s generally a safe bet that the attackers are agenda serving narrative pushers.

When they consistently attack with made up shit, it’s a very safe bet they’re also arseholes.

How many times did agenda serving narrative pushing arseholes demand Trump, “disavow the KKK”?
How many times was enough?
That’s right, it will never be enough times for the bullshitting arseholes.

Yet every time someone cries, “Bird!”, I’m supposed to be reading them live and break out into my 2 Minutes of Hating Bird louder than everyone or … what?
Seriously, WTF is wrong with the people who play that demonic game but somehow believe everyone else sees them as ‘the good guys’?

When they insist I can’t have Jewish family I love, when they criminally, racially vilify Ukrainians (you know, that thing you all say is the reason you want the blog protected from the bird), by saying, ‘it’s in my Ukrainian blood to hate Jews’, and a whole lot of other foul bullshit in a desperate effort to have me tarred & barred as a, “Bird MK2”, well that’s just about as low as you can get.

Say what you like about the French – they do have a certain amount of style.

For example, a teenager used President Macron’s QR code to book into a hospital.

Kewl!

Rest assured that the security of your persnal information is better than that of the President of France.

Yep.

Mark Knight.

Graeme Bandeira.

Morten Morland.

Michael Ramirez.

Tom Stiglich.

Mark Knight. Awesome. It’s not just Victoria. It’s Australia.
Australia reminds me of George driving Susan’s parents to his imaginary house in the Hamptons.

Rex Anger:

I have acquaintances who have known Chinese friends who pointed out the spies, monitors and commissars policing them in Oz universities some years back, or were subject to blatant ‘recruiting’ or cultivation attempts.

Whatever happened to those cars with Chinese writing on them?

Sadly you can say what you like around the kitchen table at home.
Gillian Triggs – Human Rights Commissioner.

Plasmamortar:

It will tip the odds a lot more in the favour of those defending freedom if they are facing off against overweight spineless weaklings.

In those countries that have banned weapons for the masses, it will be a joy to relieve the overweight, spineless, weaklings of theirs.

I wonder what position a nation that turned up in their millions to honour their war dead who had sacrificed all for their freedom back on Anzac day dawn 2020 (sending a clear message of who was boss to some uppity marxists in our swamps who had recently pulled a coup d’etat but hadn’t cemented it with passports), would be in now.
The surrendering compliant shit that is Australia.

And obviously bird is here.
Oh dear………….
That’s a bit awkward isn’t it?

More tales from a great country:

One of the previous managers used to keep his Lithgow.22 in the workshop. In the evenings he used to go down into the tank farm and shoot rabbits. Turns out this was a pretty critical job. About 10 years after he left there was a tank floor repair that cost a couple of $100k caused by rabbits undermining a tank.

All the companies used to have their own operations at site. One of the other company manager brought a new rifle and shotgun, so he brought them to work. We all casually stood around in the carpark checking out his new acquisitions, any passenger on a landing flight would have been able to see us.

The dog squad used to come over and do training in the workshop. Before they came out the .22 would get taken out of the cupboard and hidden somewhere. They used to think it was good training, lots of distractions and different smells with a gun hidden amongst it all.

All of the old crew were from the 6:00pm closing time era. If you went for drinks with them at 5:00, you had to fight your way through an ever growing que of pots, by 6:00pm it was all done.

In the office we had two admins, the Italian Princess and the Lebanese Princess. They were really Princesses, both very attractive women. The only downside was the Lebanese Princess was shit at her job! (She walked in for the interview, sat down, old manager shoves a piece of paper in front of her, what’s this? You’ve got the job!) Lebanese Princess wanted to go on an extended holiday, they convinced her that she needed to resign. On her last day they took her airside and the QF engineers arranged for her to stand starfish fashion in a 737 intake. Cool photo. When she came back from holidays she visited and brought her holiday album. The manager mentioned above and I had to endure flicking through about 100 photos of her in a white crocheted bikini on different beaches around the Mediterranean. 🙂

Do excel

Bruce said something interesting last night about typing up comments and then deleting them.

I find myself doing that more and more as the days go on. It’s self-censorship, much like the teenagers and young mums must do when their much-loved forums become hostile. It’s becoming difficult to be candid and honest.

Lol. I thought I was the only one. There’s hope for me yet.

China in Focus:
A war with China would be bad…*
I think Tiffany is cute.
She needs to do these presentations nude for greater audience pleasure.
OK – we’ll allow her 4″ heels.

I find myself doing that more and more as the days go on. It’s self-censorship, much like the teenagers and young mums must do when their much-loved forums become hostile. It’s becoming difficult to be candid and honest.

I don’t see the problem, Calli. There’s the resident bird loony picking on Cassie, and srr is a bit weird. Struth and a few others are mad at you for getting the jab. Most of us like you and admire you for fighting against the pressure for so long. I’m sorry that you gave in, but I don’t know the sort of pressure you were under. It must have been formidable, you’re a strong woman and uncommonly sane and sensible.

Don’t go under the pressure here. It’s not worth it. Say what you believe is true. I probably won’t always agree with you, but I’m interested in your opinions.

Indeed but we we like and admire Calli for many things.

True. I was thinking about her in the jab context because she obviously found domestic pressures distressing. I don’t think less of ppl for being jabbed. There are any number of reasons for taking it. There are reasons for refusing it, too.

One of my main reasons for refusing it is the insane coercion from the state; like most, if I’m asked nicely I’ll do pretty much anything I’m asked, but when bullied, I fight back.

Speaking of which:

Mr Busby – if you could relate the story about how you repeatedly interfered with your sick father’s medication to the point where it killed him (but not before you were banned from the hospital), it would be appreciated.

Enough! Here is what I wrote this morning. Didn’t delete it but saved it. Glad I did.

Neither rosie nor anyone else here had anything to do with a decision made some time ago. If anything here precipitated it, it was the vitriolic stuff about lining up my grandson for the shot last Wednesday night. That came on top of my sorrow about him and a renewed pressure from elsewhere.

This children’s playground, once occupied by adults, has you going from zero to Joan of Arc and back to zero, simply because you do something they don’t “like”. Talk about “purebloods” while bleating about nazis and fascists. Collaborators and 1945 haircuts. Sneers about “Road to Damascus” moments and bowing to social pressure.

It’s all bombastic bullshit of course. I envy women who have the support of their husbands to remain un-jabbed. You are most fortunate. And the men here who have made a stand and are leading your families by example…you have my unreserved admiration.

I hope honest commentary isn’t dead here. Anyone with a different view would definitely have to think twice about opening their traps. I know it’s a joke, but we appear to have segregated threads now. Perhaps we could also have “thoughtful” and “frothing” threads too.

Sorry Cassie.

Fat fingers. I flagged a post I liked.

Bird, go away and do something useful.

Find out for us the marginal rate of transformation of a 150 kg unemployable crackpot into about 15 kg of organic compost.

Call it action research if you must.

Lots of masks on the streets of Sydney this morning.
The behavioural science groups would be in a lather over the conditioning.

In Another Visit to the ATM news:

Xenophon in fresh tilt at federal politics

Cometh the hour, cometh the man.
Writ very small.

Yeah, well I haven’t attacked you, but that explanation was crap.
What is the population of this part of the study? 35,691, 3958, 1224 or 204?
I still don’t know.

lol, Arky. They reported on 827 ‘completed’ pregnancies from a much wider cohort of pregnant women in all stages of pregnancy, so it was a very preliminary report and that is the main point, as the editorial in the NEJM recognises strongly. The editorial excuses the confusion in data presentation by noting that the data so far offers pregnant women some certainty that they and their child will not be harmed by the mRNA vaxxes (and as I have noted, this says nothing of future possible harms).

Given the start date of enrolment and the date of the preliminary report, the majority of the completions at that stage were in those who were vaccinated in the third trimester. That’s what they say. But they also refer to 104 spontaneous abortions, a figure which is now agreed to come from only 204 of the participants vaxxed prior to 20 weeks of gestation and it seems from my reading to come also from participants not necessarily found only (if at all) in the 827 women who ‘completed’ pregnancies, as they now say that figure is not the denominator for the 104 spontaneous abortions. In this preliminary report they had to recognise that completion can be either by live birth, by spontaneous abortion, or by some medical intervention (ectopic pregs, intentional abortion) and I’d say they just took the figure of 104 spontaneous abortions and used it because it was the only one they had. As they still had over 900 ‘early vaxxed’ to enquire about and as the 104 figure is very high against only 204 ‘enquiries’, I’d suggest a major confounding bias in this piece of data: that the 104 figure likely represents a considerable number of women from across the enrolled early trimester vaxxed who had self-reported a miscarriage by calling in to notify them of this. When put against the total figure of spontaneous abortions finally obtained by interviewing the other 9oo then the proportions were not out of line with those found in the general population of pregnant women. Why they decided to use that spurious figure of 104 spontaneous abortions is beyond me.

That said, I haven’t drilled right down into the details of their explanation, especially of the life-tables they used, with added participants, to correct their late data and which the editorial in the NEJM cautiously does not see as allowing proper contrast to the population RR, waiting for the RTC’s, hence in the researcher’s revised table they don’t claim a contrast RR. As I no longer subscribe to the NEJM to read the absolute commentary on some of the above I am only surmising.

Life tables, btw, are a bugger, and the basis of actuarial studies. In my demography exam, to be done in half an hour, the first instruction gave a series of lifetime statistics and simply said: ‘construct a life table and then .. etc’. One woman stood up in the exam, said fuck that, that’s impossible in this time, and walked out. I didn’t, persevered, and passed, but it was a brutal examination.

I am not suprised that confusion arose over this reportage, which is often progressive in cohort studies, but it should have been obvious that an error was behind it, for 82% of vaxxed pregnant women were clearly not aborting. Common sense has to come into it somewhere. That was the starting point for my entry into saying what is the data and untangling the mess introduced by later anti-vaxxers from there. The letter pointing out the denominator issue in the NEJM, btw, was very reasoned and did not confuse the issue further, helpfully pointing to some of the difficulties associated with gaining an RR for early pregnacy losses.

Now I am very inclined to take the advice of Fat Tony above and say fuck off to those who would demean me, as did that very confident and astude medico in the demography exam, when presented with a can of worms like this.

The royal really are odious contemptable people or as someone said on Spiked, ‘rather uninteresting and rather unpleasant people’.

China in Focus:
A war with China would be bad…*

This idea we can contain china is problematic. It has never worked in the past.
Just how long do they expect to contain this regime? China looked at the collapse of the USSR and made themselves economically indispensable by stealing and replacing a complacent west’s industrial base. We are now in arms race. How long before china considers itself powerful enough not to be contained.

Busbystein.

The dad story. Let’s hear it.

About how you were wrong.

From Bruce’s link:

This is beyond serious. Imagine trying to fight the fire approaching your house, only to have a low battery light start flashing on your fire fighting water pump. Or someone who requires powered medical equipment, like oxygen generators or sleep apnea devices, struggling through an extended power outage without proper treatment for their health condition.

They’ll kill people with this stuff, of course.

And preen themselves as they do it. It’s for the planet.

Knuckles Rockerfeller Kosher medicine murdered my Dad and yours also. With mine it was ruthless salt and stomach acid deprivation that no-one could have survived.

Hahaha.

CHOMP.

But you could have saved him if the quacks had listened to you, right?

Another climate science paper which finds 2XCO2 to be about 0.5 C.

Climate sensitivity to CO2 lower than UN models project (12 Oct)

That’s about what I found, as did guys like Lindzen and Spencer. Many others also. A 2XCO2 of 0.5 C means that pCO2 would have to quadruple to 1600 ppmV in the atmosphere to increase global temperature by 1 C. Harmless, in other words. Yet ScoMo and his people are destroying Australia to fight a harmless gas, and Albo is even worse.

Jooo medicine done him in.

I bet the Kaiser could have saved him.