Open Thread-Mon 18 Oct 2021
2,892 responses to “Open Thread-Mon 18 Oct 2021”
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More wild weather brewing for Queensland as authorities brace for ‘state of extremes’
Hailstones and heatwaves.
The BOM opines:“Mother Nature has given us a timely reminder that severe weather season is now upon us, and these conditions are expected to continue over the coming days, particularly around south-east and central Queensland,”
Severe Weather Season: we used to call it Summer.
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So, either his decline is greatly exaggerated and he’s perfectly fit to govern, or these guys are in on it and are keeping vewy quiet.
They’re all in it together.
Strange that not a single journalist has questioned Morrison’s quick conversion to the climate religion following his much-praised deal re the new subs and alliance with UK and USA. He even mentioned it himself briefly – very briefly – that net zero was the trade-off, but no-one has picked up on it, or pointed out how flimsy (and easily bought) are our PM’s convictions.
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The Senate had ordered ATO boss Chris Jordan to reveal the names of businesses with a turnover of $10 million that received taxpayer funds, but he had refused, citing privacy provisions.
“One of my fundamental roles as Commissioner of Taxation is to safeguard the integrity of the tax and super systems by ensuring the community’s confidence in taxpayer secrecy is maintained.”
JobKeeper was administered by the ATO, but never formed part of the tax and superannuation systems.
Another of Jordan’s fundamental roles is to preserve the ATO’s awesome power to say Fuck Right Off to anyone it chooses.
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The Senate had ordered ATO boss Chris Jordan to reveal the names of businesses with a turnover of $10 million that received taxpayer funds, but he had refused, citing privacy provisions.
Something like this cropped up a while ago with Second Commissioner Jeremy Hirschhorn and some process was reached where the info never became public. Looks like that’s not on offer here. Seems like in this case either a Senator is just LARPing, or the Senator desperately wants to name and shame people.
Could get interesting.
The ATO is, unusually for a government department, totally sincere about fulfilling its privacy obligations.
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Having done a policy 180, the Palacechook sends her winged monkeys out to explain what the future looks like for the unvaccinated in Queensland.
New benefits set for fully vaccinated businesses ahead of Queensland border opening
The new benefits could see a reversal of all COVID-19 restrictions for some businesses, which could soon be operating at full capacity and pre-pandemic levels.
But for restrictions to be scrapped, all staff members and all customers must be fully vaccinated to enter the premises.
My moles tell me that the Queensland Public Service is currently having an apex moment developing class leading rules for Queensland lives.
Whiteboards, blueberry muffins, late nite pizzas – and zero life experience…
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citing privacy provisions
LOL!
FMD.We’ve been forced to check in to every location we visit, show our licence to every cafe worker if we want a coffee, give our address to every teenager working at Rebel Sports, write our names and contact details on a sheet of paper available to anyone who subsequently visits, and we’ll soon be required to give our personal medical details to all and sundry.
All such bets seem to be off, and this government prick has the gall to use privacy as a concern?
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JC retreats to his fallback position – abuse, name calling, and lying.
This is coming from the pathetic clown making another buffoonish prediction .
To make himself look legit he backs the prediction up with the offer of a bet. When I take him up on the bet, he downgrades it to wanting to just bet a dollar.I call him turtle head because he once put up a picture of himself and I said he looks and reminds me of a Caribbean turtle. He does.
I was mocking him just after the monstrous imbecile came out with that outlandish , clownish “scenario”. This was his best attempt so far at being a complete tosser. He suggested the Chinese military could invade Australia by flying (filled) China Air flights into Melbourne international airport.
I subsequently received a series of texts from Sinclair informing me that Turtle Head was threatening legal because I was making fun of him. Sinclair asked me to stop even though he amusingly conceded that it would be difficult for turtle head to sue seeing he was operating under an alias. We laughed.
Still don’t want to go for the bet?
Yes I do.
– gees, it’s only a dollar, it’s not like it’s your first born.
Lol.
You can afford a measly dollar can’t you?
I’m guessing he can’t afford more.
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Short rope and a long drop would fix all Julian Knight’s problems….
Hoddle Street mass murderer sues prison over ‘price gouging’ on phones
exclusive
Liam Mendes
Reporter
@liammendes
9:36PM October 19, 2021Hoddle Street killer Julian Knight, who murdered seven people in Melbourne in the 1980s, is suing Corrections Victoria for “price gouging” prisoners, claiming he and other inmates are being overcharged for phone calls.
Knight, who gunned down seven and wounded at least 19 others in a rampage at Clifton Hill, in the city’s northeast, in August 1987, is also demanding access to a computer and complaining about a levy imposed on cigarettes.
The 53-year-old has accused prison operator G4S and Corrective Services of “misleading and deceptive conduct, and unconscionable conduct”.
He is seeking an unspecified amount of compensation and declarations from the court that his claims are true.
The claim filed in the Federal Court alleges he and 1100 other prisoners at Port Phillip Prison – Victoria’s largest maximum-security jail – are in “unequal bargaining positions”.
Citing Australian consumer law in his application, Knight argues that since 1997, the prison operator has profited from price increases of items sold in the prison canteen, and says those profits were not directed to amenities benefiting prisoners.
The prison has been owned and operated by G4S since September 1997.
“The applicant also seeks from the court a declaration that the increase in the price of almost all goods sold to prisoners through the Port Phillip Prison canteen since 1997 constitutes misleading and deceptive conduct, and unconscionable conduct,” the application reads.
Profits generated by these sales were not expended on prisoner amenities but were instead treated as company profits, Knight claims.
Knight also complains about a levy imposed on cigarettes and tobacco from 2004-15, which he says should have been invested towards “quit smoking initiatives”.
Smoking was banned in all Victorian prisons in 2015.
The bespectacled killer, who has been incarcerated for more than 34 years, says Corrections Victoria is “price gouging” its prisoners through their being over-charged to make phone calls.
He is seeking daily access to a computer and printer, as well as an injunction in a bid to have LexisNexis Butterworths Unreported Judgments Disks 1-4 and the Thomson Lawbook Co Federal Cases database added to the prison library computer server.
Knight was 19 when he took three guns to Hoddle Street and went on a random shooting spree in 1987, intending to kill as many innocent people as he could find.
Six of his victims were aged in their 20s and the other was a 53-year-old fork lift driver on his way to work.
The failed army officer candidate has technically been eligible for parole since 2014 but lost a High Court bid in 2017 to overturn laws designed to keep him incarcerated until he dies.
He has launched numerous legal challenges during his time behind bars and in 2004 was banned from launching legal action in Victoria’s courts for a decade after a judge branded him a “vexatious litigant”.
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Inflation.
They want inflation.
Lots of inflation to inflate away their debt and your savings.
The only question is not will there be inflation, but will they be able to walk the knife edge between the lots of inflation they want and run away inflation that causes the impoverished peasants to rise up and murder the fucking lot of them. -
In Freedom of Speech news:
Scientist warns against boosting climate change deniers in Australia
Dr Woodthorpe is expected to highlight deep concerns about the way scientists are treated online, calling for action from news companies and platforms such as Facebook and Twitter.
“Don’t amplify the denigrators and conspiracy theorists,” she will say.
“Balance is not one climate denier vs one climate scientist. It’s 2000 scientists before the denier gets their chance.”
“And the effort it takes to refute any one of their articles, tweets or other postings takes an order of magnitude more that it took the conspiracy theorists and their trolls and bots to invent it and disseminate it.”
So, more about convenience, not so much about The Science.
Yet another FMD moment being normalised.
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But for restrictions to be scrapped, all staff members and all customers must be fully vaccinated to enter the premises.
If any business does not want my money thats fine. I have a long memory and can hold a grudge eg I have not directly spent 1c with Telstra since 2003 en they sent my job to India
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ckw says:
October 20, 2021 at 9:44 amJust had a quick chat with boss.
Consensus is that I’m most probably screwed.
Sorry to hear that rick.
Have you had contact with any lawyers, there are quite a few fighting this, and there’s some looking to mount some type of class action?
https://concernedlawyersnetwork.net/
It might be worth contacting them and seeing what’s going on. I know the South Australian ambos* are in contact with both.
*Pureblood ambos,not the union scum, whose outgoing president has said publicly that any ambo not getting jabbed doesn’t deserve to have a job. Apparently his wife has some chronic health condition that means covid would kill her. He said the jabs put her in bed for weeks, but she didn’t die, so he’s all for them. F***wit!
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Is that filthy transsexual thing in the Bidet regime in the military too? Wow this make I Claudius and the Weimar Republic seem chaste and restrained. This is of course in your face Cultural Marxism. Mocking everything that is good and decent. It’s also designed to humiliate regular citizens.
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How can you not laugh at them when the first ever female four-star admiral
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I deeply dislike Telstra too, trouble is they has the best mobile coverage unless you can suggest an alternative?
Unless you want 5G there are a number of resellers on their 4G network. Some of your $ will still end up with them. I rarely leave the metro area so coverage is not an issue for me. Haven’t used them for years.
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I cannot believe qld is still holding to 17 December.
It might be too lateSupposedly the phones have been running hot with bookings since the announcement. None of our acquaintance group still stuck in NSW trust the Qld govt enough to make even a refundable booking – small sample size, (Mrs D’s walking group on FB , my ex-colleagues -all up @ 40 people)
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Lots of inflation to inflate away their debt and your savings.
Its just short term… he said nervously…
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpiApparently last month was about 4.5%.
Seems to be over 10% for the year….USA.. so far.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/
5.4% so far this year..Australia way back in the pack.
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/inflation-cpi#:~:text=Inflation%20Rate%20in%20Australia%20averaged,the%20second%20quarter%20of%201962.
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JC.
“I subsequently received a series of texts from Sinclair informing me that Turtle Head was threatening legal because I was making fun of him. Sinclair asked me to stop even though he amusingly conceded that it would be difficult for turtle head to sue seeing he was operating under an alias. We laughed.”
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I think the other take away from the military’s promotion of transsexualism is just how stinking, corrupt and abominable the Washington War Machine is. Come to think of it, no one every really explained why the English speaking world got involved in WWI. One story is a secret deal between the British and French military.
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Maximum Leader in full support of the Australian Open:
He also took another swipe at World No. 1 Novak Djokovic saying it was very unlikely players who are unvaccinated or refuse to reveal their vaccination status would even be allowed into the country in order to compete.
When the wheels fall off…
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I deeply dislike Telstra too, trouble is they has the best mobile coverage unless you can suggest an alternative?
Miltonf, check out Aldi mobile. We used it while travelling Australia and had same coverage as Telstra, for a fraction of their cost. We have one prepaid phone for $15.00 p/m and the other fixed for $15.00 p/m, which covers all calls and texts, and an internet allowance for the fixed.
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The Senator for MBNA…
MBNA hired Hunter Biden (then 26 years old and a recent law school graduate) during the years when then-Senator Joe Biden was pushing for bankruptcy reform legislation supported by the company, which became law and makes it more difficult to acquire bankruptcy protection.[15] Because of the close relationship between Biden and MBNA, an article in the conservative political magazine National Review referred to Biden as the “Senator from MBNA”.[16] [17] [18] [19]MBNA was one of the companies mentioned on a 2004 Frontline WGBH Boston PBS special about unfair business practices by credit card companies.[20] Some practices that Frontline claimed MBNA has engaged in included doubling or tripling of interest rates, shifting billing due dates/payment cycles monthly and raising rates for customers whose payments were a day or two late. MBNA has been found to be one of the leading implementors of rate-jacking. For further information and links, see credit card.
In Ireland, MBNA was accused of calling consumers up to eight times a day who were behind in making payments, which prompted the state debt advisory service to publicly state that harassment is outlawed. Affected people were advised to complain to the relevant authorities.[21] The company in December 2009 admitted overcharging 500,000 Irish consumers up to €18 million.[22][23]
In the UK, MBNA has come under fire for its interpretation of rules under which credit card providers must allocate payments to the debt with the highest interest rate first: one consumer site called MBNA’s interpretation of these rules a “disingenuous money-making tactic”.
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ome to think of it, no one every really explained why the English speaking world got involved in WWI
The UK was a guarantor of Belgian neutrality and when the Germans invaded the UK was obliged to act, especially given the propaganda opportunities the Germans gave the British yellow press.
This is particularly ironic given the Poms had no problem violating Greek neutrality.
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Sanchez
I only received a few notices over the 10 or so years he owned the site. So no it wasn’t common.
The problem with stupid turtle head is that he knows I don’t want to talk to him and have zero interaction. He knows this but breaks the rule and then starts bawling to the site owner. It’s a very simple rule. NO direct nor indirect interaction with JC. Ever!
Go upthread , look at what the piker posted about his claim which he then backed up with a bet. He not only walked and piked but he’s calling me abusive. Unreal.
No interaction, not even grovelling. It’s a simple rule turtle head needs to obey.
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rickwsays:
October 20, 2021 at 9:44 am
Just had a quick chat with boss.Consensus is that I’m most probably screwed.
Might be time to consider moving to NSW. I think they will be the freest for the unvaxed, provided you move to regional.
Since the Fed’s are mandating people 12+ must be vax’d to leave the country, seems my Japan escape is delayed. I dont want the kids vax’d.
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Green energy.. too taxed to meter.
UK’s net zero plan falls short on ambition and funding, say critics
Government says strategy would create 440,000 jobs, but Treasury warns taxes may need to rise to fund changesSooo, taxes to rise to pay for green fantasy power generation.
Ministers on Tuesday revealed a plan that they said would create up to 440,000 jobs and “unlock” £90bn in investment in the next decade, most of it from private sector companies.Come on down subsidy harvesters…
And taxes will have to rise because we were taxing fuels at a ridiculous rate and now they are going away..
The Treasury also warned, separately, that taxes might need to rise to support the move, as the £30bn a year in tax revenues from fossil fuel duty would decline rapidly.
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Boris Johnson said: “The UK’s path to ending our contribution to climate change will be paved with well-paid jobsYes, yes it will, just not in the way he thought he meant it. lots and lots of well paid jobs will disappear.
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Same, same.
Not even thinking about going near Queensland whilst the Pole-Mole is going feral.The cunning plan appears to be working splendidly.
No politically inconvenient border restrictions – day trips to the Byron Coast AOK. And the filthy, Wupox-ridden Southerners stay away in droves.
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One story is a secret deal between the British and French military…
…and the politicians.
Behind it all was a growing rivalry with Germany, which had only become a nation state in 1871 but was rapidly expanding its navy to rival Britain’s, not to go to war so much as to extract concessions in regard to colonial possessions, as Germany thought it deserved an empire of its own.
In the end the Liberal government, which was largely non-interventionist, gave in to war because they feared losing power to the Conservatives.
It was a massive failure of the political class on all sides.
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He’s all over the place.
That’s the point. A capricious and uncertain environment makes it easy to abuse the people. No one wants to cop a huge fine for doing something they thought was perfectly “legal”. So they self-limit, self-censor.
He’s perfected the tyrant mode to suit Australian conditions.
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The WEF have told us specifically for years now, we’ll be eating much less meat.
See what is happening.
Supply chain collapse, the end of cash etc are not conspiracy theories. It’s what the enemy are telling you they are going to do and are now doing, while the majority in the west deny there’s a great socialist cock up their freckle.It’s amazing to watch the denialism.
You also won’t own anything and be happy.
Said many many many times over the last 20 months, while people still consider Sco Mo is worried about elections and just weak, whether or not a vaccine will save you from something you weren’t going to die from anyway.
Insanity is everywhere and it’s quite confronting.
I reckon I could get on here everyday for the next six months and report what the WEF are telling us is coming next, every minute of the day, virtually grab people by the digital scruff of the neck and make them visit the WEF’s own sites, and the second I stop, someone will immediately talk about the confusing aspects of trying to work out if Pfizer or Astrazenica is better to take to save your life from the death sniffles.
You can’t fight when your side won’t even admit there is a fight to be had, refuse to believe they have had war declared upon them, after being held prisoner for nearly two years. -
In the meantime Dan is allowing the unvaxxed in from nsw, subject to pcr test and 72 hours isolation.
He’s all over the place.It’s strange situation. Labor’s normal modus operandi is to keep out the plebs and give exemptions to celebrities. But Dan’s monomanic demagoguery against the people disobeying his edicts has now trapped him. If he lets the Djoker in after having grandstanded about banning him, he cops the flak about elitism. If he doesn’t, he risks stuffing the political showboating opportunities the Open would otherwise give him.
Why couldn’t the ghastly little twerp have just said that he expects tennis stars will be treated the same as proles? Answer: that wouldn’t have given him an omnipotence boner. -
rickwsays:
October 20, 2021 at 10:53 am
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My place in county vic is just on the border, so that’s a plus, already in discussion with potential employers who would allow me to work from home in the short term.That’s great news rickw.
When you do get a job, be sure to send Maximum Leader a personal message about how you’re bringing the deadliest of all deadly NSW deadly disease back to Victoria 5 days a week.
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New York City Hall banishes founding father Thomas Jefferson
By Will Pavia
The Times
58 minutes ago October 20, 2021
7 CommentsA statue of Thomas Jefferson, who drafted the Declaration of Independence but was a lifelong slaveholder, will be moved from the council chamber at New York City Hall.
The eviction of a founding father from the chamber was agreed by a unanimous vote, following a long campaign by black and Latino council members. Some historians had argued that it should remain somewhere in the building.
However, the committee that voted to move the statue then infuriated those calling for its expulsion by deciding to delay its removal until the end of the year while they considered where it should go.
“We are deeply disappointed that the Public Design Commission voted to prolong the indignity of having the statue of Thomas Jefferson … lord over our members as they conduct the people’s business,” the council’s Black, Latino and Asian Caucus said in a statement. Its members worked “on behalf of more than five million New Yorkers of colour, who themselves do not measure up to Jefferson’s own standards of liberty and equality, as his own personal correspondence suggests,” it said.
Jefferson held more than 600 people as slaves during the course of his life and fathered at least six children with one of them, Sally Hemings. He later freed all her children and is also credited with allowing several runaway slaves to remain unpursued. The rest were sold upon his death to pay off his debts.
Though he wrote that slavery was evil, he espoused a “paternalistic racism”, according to the foundation that manages his former estate, Monticello, and compared freeing slaves to “abandoning children”.
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A capricious and uncertain environment makes it easy to abuse the people. No one wants to cop a huge fine for doing something they thought was perfectly “legal”. So they self-limit, self-censor.
And they are disproportionately thankful for small mercies.
The CMO Druids and The Science are absolutely key to making this process politically safe.
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Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the capitalist system was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security but [also] at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth.
Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become “profiteers,” who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat. As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.
Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.
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can anybody get the full test of this??
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calli says:
October 20, 2021 at 9:10 am
The Severe Weather Season full of Extreme Events.They should sell tickets.
Indeed, Calli.
Heard a breathless ABC weather report the other day “warn” that some suburbs of Brisvegas could expect “up to 20mm of rain in an hour”!
20mm in 10 minutes would hardly lay the dust. It seems the BOM have gone full retard on the panic and warnings over the past few years. Everyone used to know that spring storms could be violent, and even dump a bit of rain or hail. It seems that the more information people have access to via the internet, and the more they watch TV series, the more removed from reality they have become.
I’ve come across people who can quote story lines and even dialogue from shows on TV and Netflix or whatever, yet haven’t the slightest knowledge of weather cycles, what the squiggly lines on the weather map mean, or even why we have seasons. What used to be known in primary school seems to be jaw-dropping revelation to adults now, or even beyond their comprehension. The general ignorance is dismaying.
No wonder so many have fallen for the “global warming”, covid and jab stuff – their entire reality is on TV and their “smart” phones.
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why-is-data-about-deaths-being-held-back?
No idea. Been following this detailed – normally weekly – summary. Archive of all available here:
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports-archive.aspx
It contains data of reinfections, and cases and deaths with / without vaccines. It has not been updated since the last report on 4 September.
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Yes interesting Roger- the more I think about WWI the more I understand what an absolute disaster it has been for the west. I still look at the young men’s and boys’ names and think what a loss. What a disgusting waste of young lives and lives of their children who were never born and the lives of those women who never married.
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Instead of Bali and NSW people have to holiday locally now and that’s filling up rooms more than people think.
Some data.
Latest Queensland Tourism data shows that International visitor numbers FY June 21 were 49,000.
Down by 97.5%.
That implies a previous baseline of 2,000,000 International visitors, excluding the rest of Australia.
You are not replacing that volume out of a Queensland population of 5,000,000.
This is the line being pushed by PalaceChook and Miles.
“Queensland holidays are for Queenssslanders”.
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Behind it all was a growing rivalry with Germany, which had only become a nation state in 1871 but was rapidly expanding its navy to rival Britain’s, not to go to war so much as to extract concessions in regard to colonial possessions, as Germany thought it deserved an empire of its own.
“Dreadnought” by Robert K Massie demonstrates in detail, by reference to tonnage and ship type and geography, that the fleet the Germans were building could have only one possible use – to support an invasion of Britain.
They may have wanted to extract concessions, but clearly the British couldn’t just sit back and watch their safety vanish. (The converse didn’t apply of course – there was zero risk to Germany of being invaded by Britain.)
So whatever failures might be attributed to Britain’s ruling class, the lion’s share of the blame has to fall on the German rulers.[PS include “Massie” in an internet search for the book, otherwise you’ll get a load of hype for some novel with a teenage transgender hero[ine]. Unless you want to read that novel, of course.]
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What I mean is that others have made similar comments about people threatening other commenters and Sinc with litigation over trivial issues.
Oh yea. He often mentioned that. Ironically the worst complaint offenders were the most abusive with racist comments directed at individuals and the regular pile on offenders. The posse and pile on offenders there were the most diabolical scum the good lord ever conceived.
Lord I wish I could name these animals, but I’m sure you get the gist of who they are.
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At least there is some cheerful news out of Guildford, NSW ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10109689/Man-shot-dead-critical-daylight-execution-Guildford.html -
This is interesting…
Real Mark Latham
@RealMarkLatham
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Major development in the NSW upper house tonight where Liberal, Nationals and Labor have combined to allow the Government tracking of Electric Vehicle movements without owners’ consent.
A great advertisement for sticking with your petrol-driven private vehicle.
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“Dreadnought” by Robert K Massie demonstrates in detail, by reference to tonnage and ship type and geography, that the fleet the Germans were building could have only one possible use – to support an invasion of Britain.
While the theory is valid, it can only go so far. Britain built the RN, in terms of the number of capital ships(Battleships & large cruisers) was to be larger than the next 2 largest navies combined. Britain also had a much larger specialised industrial(ie large shipyards and guns) base & treasury to build ships than Germany. Germany could never outbuild Britain as it simply did not have the shipyards nor large gun manufacturing capability, and it would have crippled the German treasury to even try to expand this capacity.
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Date 5 October 2021
At its meeting today, the Board decided to:
= maintain the cash rate target at 10 basis points and the interest rate on Exchange Settlement balances at zero per cent
– maintain the target of 10 basis points for the April 2024 Australian Government bond
– continue to purchase government securities at the rate of $4 billion a week until at least mid February 2022.“continue to purchase government securities at the rate of $4 billion a week until at least mid February 2022.”
Just another 68 billion dollars.
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