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Crossie
Crossie
November 22, 2021 6:19 pm

Why would ANY professional want to come to this Fascist shit hole?

Because this shithole still has more money than their shithole.

Mater
November 22, 2021 6:21 pm

Mater,
What happened to you is egregious.
Not rubbing salt in the wounds, but it is with much regret I can no longer give you likes.

That’s ok, I don’t dwell on such things, and I don’t like myself very much either, atm.

I’ve never asked or allowed one of my people to do something that I wouldn’t first be willing to do. I am not going to all of a sudden dispose of a life time commitment, especially when it comes to my children. Holding to it has nearly killed me on multiple occasions, and I don’t expect that this’ll be any different.

I’ll have to live with my choice within that particular moral dilemma, but Dan (and Scomo) are going to have to live with my seething anger, too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 6:22 pm

She sounds like a psychopath mother, what a hell life for those boys. Where was child services?

Half of Tasmania is functionally illiterate. If child services took action there would be no one left. Another Stolen Generation.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 6:26 pm

Mater – try being a stroke victim (ostensibly for not taking your blood pressure medication) and telling people you are not vaccinated. Hard to keep the audience.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 6:28 pm

Be a goddamn bloody adult’: Lambie takes on One Nation over vaccine mandates

Reading the comments from “The Age”, you’d think Jacquie Lambie was the greatest thing ever to hit the Senate..

calli
calli
November 22, 2021 6:29 pm

Not rubbing salt in the wounds, but it is with much regret I can no longer give you likes.

Awwwww. Mater has been unfriended.

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 6:29 pm

Can we get a check in from the Dept of Veteran Affairs on their opinion of lambie’s commitment to responsibility?

I think the word they used was “malingering”

38 Malingering

(1) A defence member commits an offence if, with intent to make or keep himself or herself unfit for duty or service, the member:

(a) injures himself or herself or causes or permits himself or herself to be injured; or

(b) by act or omission, causes himself or herself to suffer from a sickness or disability or prolongs or aggravates a sickness or disability from which he or she is suffering.

Maximum punishment: Imprisonment for 12 months.

(2) A defence member commits an offence if:

(a) the member represents himself or herself to be suffering from a physical or mental condition; and

(b) the member makes the representation with intent to avoid duty or service; and

(c) the representation is false; and

(d) the member knows that the representation is false.

Maximum punishment: Imprisonment for 12 months.

Boy.

12 months prison aye. Long time.

Razey
Razey
November 22, 2021 6:30 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
November 22, 2021 at 6:28 pm
Be a goddamn bloody adult’: Lambie takes on One Nation over vaccine mandates

Reading the comments from “The Age”, you’d think Jacquie Lambie was the greatest thing ever to hit the Senate..

Being adult means taking ownership of ones own health.

So that fat bitch needs to take some lessons.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 6:30 pm

Lunch at Pellegrines and a protest.

A fine day out in Melbournibad.

Cassie of Sydney
November 22, 2021 6:31 pm

Lambie. She’s…nasty, uncouth, coarse, vulgar, boorish, rude and churlish.

Delta A
Delta A
November 22, 2021 6:31 pm

sfwsays:
November 22, 2021 at 5:26 pm

Good on you, sfw.

You join an elite group of Cats who put their money where their principles are. I wish you well.

Indolent
Indolent
November 22, 2021 6:32 pm

In my considered opinion, this man is a lunatic.

“If you are anti-mandate you are anti-vax whatever your personal vaccination status.” Or to put it another way, if you are anti-dictatorship, you are anti-vax. You can count me among the latter.

‘Stuff it, shove it’: a furious Michael Gunner calls out those against vaccine mandates

Cassie of Sydney
November 22, 2021 6:32 pm

“The Liberal Party of Australia has NEVER believed in free speech.”

Wrong.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 6:34 pm

Woodside, BHP give go-ahead to $16b Scarborough gas project off WA’s north west
Sean Smith
The West Australian
Mon, 22 November 2021 2:48PM
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Sean Smith

Woodside Petroleum and BHP have announced the development go-ahead for the $16 billion Scarborough gas project off north-west WA — Australia’s biggest resources project in a decade.

The approval coincided with the finalisation of a binding $20 billion deal for Woodside to buy BHP’s oil and gas business in a transaction that will deliver the miner’s shareholders a major stake in the WA-based Woodside.

“Today’s decisions set Woodside on a transformative path. Scarborough will be a significant contributor to Woodside’s cash flows, the funding of future developments and new energy products, and shareholder returns,” Woodside chief executive Meg O’Neill said.

The $US12b Scarborough development will create about 3200 construction jobs and includes the expansion of the Pluto gas processing plant on the Burrup Peninsula.

The new project, owned 73.5 per cent by Woodside and 26.5 per cent by BHP, will help Woodside offset declining gas production from the North West Shelf venture over the next few years and meet ongoing demand for LNG from mainly Asian customers from 2026.

However, it is being opposed by climate change activists who argue such new gas developments are incompatible with efforts to reduce carbon emissions and slow global warming.

Conservation Council of WA executive director Maggie Wood said the the council was disappointed and angry at the development decision, promising a major national campaign to try and halt the project.

“At a time when the world is facing up to the dire need to reduce emissions and prevent irreversible damage to our climate, this project is an insult to ordinary Australians who will bear the brunt of future extreme weather events and climate disasters caused by developments like Scarborough,” Ms Wood said.

Woodside said the final investment decision for Scarborough was underpinned by sales contracts for about 60 per cent of the project’s expected output.

“Developing Scarborough delivers value for Woodside shareholders and significant long-term benefits locally and nationally, including thousands of jobs, taxation revenue and the supply of gas to export and domestic markets for decades to come,” Ms O’Neill said.

The Scarborough field is located about 375km off WA. The gas will be tapped by up to 21 wells over the life of the project and transported by pipeline to the Pluto plant.

The oil and gas merger accelerates BHP’s exit from fossil fuels while delivering Woodside more cashflow to fund Scarborough and other growth projects. The acquisition is being funded by the issue of Woodside shares equating to about 48 per cent of the company that will be distributed as a dividend to BHP shareholders.

Mater
November 22, 2021 6:34 pm

Awwwww. Mater has been unfriended.

This is not new.
The Cats who know me know that I’m not a very affable or likeable bloke, at the best of times.

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 6:35 pm

Reading the comments from “The Age”, you’d think Jacquie Lambie was the greatest thing ever to hit the Senate..

Like I said, seems to play a character for the inner city middle class. Exposes the true nature of the working class, redemptive story, adopted their enlightened world view and now Tells It Like It Is to their enemies (the working class).

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 6:37 pm

“If you are anti-mandate you are anti-vax whatever your personal vaccination status.”

Lol

Keep this man talking, please!

Mater
November 22, 2021 6:38 pm

“That’s right, being an adult. It’s putting others before yourself”

Reading the comments from “The Age”, you’d think Jacquie Lambie was the greatest thing ever to hit the Senate.

This could be equally applicable to National Service, in preparation for potential future conflict.

Do you think The Age collective would be nodding in agreement?

calli
calli
November 22, 2021 6:41 pm

I’m not a very affable or likeable bloke

Who are you and what have you done with Mater?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 22, 2021 6:43 pm

Indolent says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:32 pm
In my considered opinion, this man is a lunatic.
“If you are anti-mandate you are anti-vax whatever your personal vaccination status.”

Not only a lunatic but full of hate – he’d have no problems using concentration camps for the “unvaxxed”

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 22, 2021 6:44 pm

calli says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:41 pm
I’m not a very affable or likeable bloke

Who are you and what have you done with Mater?

Too late calli – the nanny wrigglers have taken hold…he is lost. 🙁

Crossie
Crossie
November 22, 2021 6:46 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:28 pm
Be a goddamn bloody adult’: Lambie takes on One Nation over vaccine mandates
Reading the comments from “The Age”, you’d think Jacquie Lambie was the greatest thing ever to hit the Senate.

She is their useful idiot right now but as soon as she is no longer useful they will kick her aside. My guess is when she loses her senate seat she will no longer be of interest to The Age clique.

Cassie of Sydney
November 22, 2021 6:46 pm

“Reading the comments from “The Age”, you’d think Jacquie Lambie was the greatest thing ever to hit the Senate..”

That’s because she attacked someone the left loathe…..Pauline Hanson. Remember how the left and in particular their ABC fawned over Clive Palmer from 2013 to 2016…..particularly when Abbott was still PM? Remember how Mark Scott, then MD of their ABC, had Clive as his special guest at the midwinter ball…it was all designed to belittle and humiliate Abbott. Clive was treated like the best thing since sliced bread.

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 6:46 pm

Anti-vax is the new climate denier. I saw the media building that label up with multiple consecutive nasty contrived campaigns against “anti-vaxxers” back in 2019. I deliberately started a devils advocate campaign on old catallaxy to goad people into outing how deep the programmed reaction to ‘anti-vaxxers’ runs.

Runs deep man.

Vaccine Nazis was the theme. I knew we were in trouble by the hysterical response to it by some people on this very site. The people were ripe for a demagogue harvest.

And here we are.

Mater
November 22, 2021 6:47 pm

Who are you and what have you done with Mater?

Maybe I over generalised. Bob certainly doesn’t like me much, at the very least 😉

Crossie
Crossie
November 22, 2021 6:48 pm

Twostix says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:37 pm
“If you are anti-mandate you are anti-vax whatever your personal vaccination status.”
Lol

Keep this man talking, please!

Nice of him to confirm that the vaccines have nothing to do with this whole power grab thing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 6:50 pm

Any military type Cats help out? Lambie was chasing a pension from DVA – she was drawing a Centrelink
disability pension, yet somehow she’s physically capable of campaigning for the Senate, and sitting there?

Indolent
Indolent
November 22, 2021 6:50 pm

Fauci Says Babies, Toddlers Eligible For COVID Jabs In Q1 2022

This psycho really is the devil incarnate.

Beertruk
November 22, 2021 6:50 pm

But a trained Military Police person?

Lowest rank in MPs is full corporal so she went straight to her ceiling rank.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 6:54 pm

Lowest rank in MPs is full corporal so she went straight to her ceiling rank.

Promotion after that is very slow, indeed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 6:54 pm

Beertruksays:
November 22, 2021 at 8:43 am

… Wonder how much testing was done on thalidomide before it was released v testing on wuflu ‘vax’ before release?

Without researching it, who knows?
You can bet on this tho:
Any adverse results woulda been buried.
The older victims are approaching 70 , it was obly banned due to faked research by Dr McBride, so it was prescribed for Morning Sickness for at least 10 years, Family Doctors must have made a connection, but crickets.
And that was 20+ before MediBank, at a time when GPs still had some indepence from Government.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 6:54 pm

Beertruk,
She got busted back to private for drunken brawling.
Happens to us all.

Cassie of Sydney
November 22, 2021 6:55 pm

“Matersays:
November 22, 2021 at 6:47 pm
Who are you and what have you done with Mater?

Maybe I over generalised. Bob certainly doesn’t like me much, at the very least ?”

I like you Mater.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Miss Anthropistsays:
November 22, 2021 at 6:54 pm

Beertruk,
She got busted back to private for drunken brawling.
Happens to us all.

Lambie has a touch of the digger ethos in her then.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 6:58 pm

Lambie was chasing a pension from DVA – she was drawing a Centrelink
disability pension, yet somehow she’s physically capable of campaigning for the Senate, and sitting there?

Have any ex Military Pensioners ever served as MPs or Senators?
I’d be extremely surprised if there wasn’t at least 25.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 7:01 pm

Zulu,
A pension comes with a gold card. You may have to wait until you’re seventy to get it, being a rich bastard.
You can still work but there are limitations and conditions. She may have what used to be a white card. They all gold now, but with conditions.
With Centrelink she could work, just lowers her pension.

Cassie of Sydney
November 22, 2021 7:02 pm

Avi has just uploaded this from Saturday….this is really good…….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbWuMSTwxE

Egg boy seems to have grown up…he was at the protest (not the Antifa one).

Please watch.

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 7:05 pm

Late 2019 I wondered what they had planned with the massive ‘anti vaxxer’ campaign that year. I idly thought they were setting up to make “no jab no play” mandatory for everyone born after 1996 (who have always lived in this system of jab jab jab certificate s and AIR mandatory registration) right into their adult hood.

Didn’t think they’d expand it to everyone alive.

Megan
Megan
November 22, 2021 7:05 pm

The Cats who know me know that I’m not a very affable or likeable bloke, at the best of times.

I vehemently disagree. Mater is very kind and gallant to old ladies who are challenged in the height department.

Bob’s opinion is worth less than seagull crap.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 22, 2021 7:08 pm

Can anyone tell me how they test accurately for COVID ?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 7:10 pm

Vaccine Nazis was the theme. I knew we were in trouble by the hysterical response to it by some people on this very site. The people were ripe for a demagogue harvest.

Except it’s historically incorrect.
Here’s the heavily spun Real Story from Jacobin Magazine:
https://jacobinmag.com/2021/09/vaccine-mandates-covid-pandemic-german-nazi-inoculation-policy
70 dead from “an improperly administered Tuberculosis Vaccine” in 1930, known as The Lubeck Disaster.
Many decades of Mandatory Vaccination was extremely unpopular in Germany, the Nazis reversed course on Mandates.

Megan
Megan
November 22, 2021 7:14 pm

Lambie. She’s…nasty, uncouth, coarse, vulgar, boorish, rude and churlish.

And, as my Granny would have said, common as muck.*

* pronounced mook.

Beertruk
November 22, 2021 7:14 pm

She got busted back to private for drunken brawling.

That must have happened when she was with the Tyre Biters.
Minimum rank in screws is full corporal and as Zulu said, it is back stabbing to get any higher

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 7:17 pm

No ed, I wasn’t talking about the Nazis, vaccine spruikers in the media became Vaccine Nazis due to the often orgasmic outbursts of hate against “anti-vaxxers” and what they’d like to see done to them..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 7:19 pm

Have any ex Military Pensioners ever served as MPs or Senators?
I’d be extremely surprised if there wasn’t at least 25.

Discharged on medical grounds, and drawing a military disability pension – what used to be called TPI?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 22, 2021 7:20 pm

sfwsays:
November 22, 2021 at 5:26 pm
Just got an email re UAP preselection, I’m on a shortlist, phone interview late tomorrow arvo.

All the best sfw, enjoy expressing yourself!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 22, 2021 7:21 pm

The older victims are approaching 70 , it was obly banned due to faked research by Dr McBride,

McBride got into trouble years later for faking research on some other drug, but this is the first I’ve seen suggesting he faked any thalidomide research.
Any link or source?

Dot
Dot
November 22, 2021 7:25 pm

Remember:

Quercetin was almost labelled vitamin P.
Jacquie Lambie is our Janice Soprano.

cohenite
November 22, 2021 7:28 pm

The Waukesha mass murderer of grannies and kids was a black beneficiary of soros bail laws. 10 to 1 it’s a media driven response to Rittenhouse; and 10:1 the media mongrels who advocated this sort of violent response will take no responsibility. Rittenhouse really has to sue these grubs blind.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 7:29 pm

DVA pension? Over to NamBob.

cohenite
November 22, 2021 7:32 pm

The media and authorities in the West really are traitors. The black Waukesha mass murderer will get all sorts of concessions and the mental illness standby will be rolled out just as it is with the regular muzzie terrorist acts:

UK: Liverpool jihad suicide bomber started buying bomb parts in April, had ‘periods of mental illness’

Germany: Muslim migrant stabs four people, authorities say he could be ‘Islamic extremist,’ put him in psych ward

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 7:33 pm

Zulu,
TPI is the highest level of DVA. Totally Permanently Incapacitated. It’s printed on your gold card.
There are lower levels of pension. If you apply when you turn 70 you will get a pension much less than TPI.
Under the old system you could also get a payment on a white card. Wasn’t much.

Razey
Razey
November 22, 2021 7:34 pm

Fat Tonysays:
November 22, 2021 at 6:43 pm
Indolent says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:32 pm
In my considered opinion, this man is a lunatic.
“If you are anti-mandate you are anti-vax whatever your personal vaccination status.”

Not only a lunatic but full of hate – he’d have no problems using concentration camps for the “unvaxxed”

The over the top reaction means we are in the right. Because these losers want to trample all over human rights, it subconsciously disturbs them. They are in the wrong, we have the moral high ground.

Vicki
Vicki
November 22, 2021 7:36 pm

Lambie. She’s…nasty, uncouth, coarse, vulgar, boorish, rude and churlish.

An AWFUL woman.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 7:37 pm

You wouldn’t be able to campaign as a TPI. Maximum 8hrs work per fortnight. In a different job than when you went TPI.
You would lose your TPI allowance. You probably would keep your gold card pension.

Roger
Roger
November 22, 2021 7:42 pm

My hunch about the Rotterdam anti-lockdown riot was correct: mainly ethnic minorities involved.

The prog-left is finding out too late that imported proles are not as malleable as local ones.

Lee
Lee
November 22, 2021 7:42 pm

The Waukesha mass murderer of grannies and kids was a black beneficiary of soros bail laws. 10 to 1 it’s a media driven response to Rittenhouse; and 10:1 the media mongrels who advocated this sort of violent response will take no responsibility.

They were exactly the points I made on Michael Smith’s blog this afternoon.

Zipster
Zipster
November 22, 2021 7:43 pm

I was an LDP member, I respect them especially the Vic ones. Just that are low energy, I asked Limbrick several times to take a more active stance at the height of Dans lockdowns, his response was “Do you want me to break the law?”.

duh!!! of course, its not a law its an “order” from an unelected bugmen

Vicki
Vicki
November 22, 2021 7:44 pm

sfwsays:
November 22, 2021 at 5:26 pm
Just got an email re UAP preselection, I’m on a shortlist, phone interview late tomorrow arvo.

Well done! I’ll vote for you!!!

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 22, 2021 7:45 pm

According to some people if you drink yourself to death it’s someone else’s fault:

AN elderly man quarantining at Howard Springs has died from apparent alcohol poisoning overnight on Monday, the man’s friends have told the NT News.

Lucas Malasti, who met the 77-year-old during repatriation from overseas, said he had brought a duty free bottle of vodka with him to Howard Springs and drank the whole thing in one go.

“This gentleman travelled with my friend from Singapore and he got a bottle of duty free vodka in Singapore,” he said. “He skolled a bottle of vodka, went to his room and was stone dead the next morning.”

Mr Malasti said he understood the man had been travelling home from the UK to see his son who was living in Western Australia.

Another man who had been travelling with the 77-year-old, who did not wish to be named, said he believed the NT government had failed in its duty of care by not searching the man’s bags for any alcohol.

“This is a dry area and we believe that if he didn’t have that (vodka) he would be still with us,” he said. “Bag searches and stuff like that should have been carried out.”

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 7:45 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:32 pm

“The Liberal Party of Australia has NEVER believed in free speech.”

Wrong.

Tell me when they allowed free speech????

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 22, 2021 7:47 pm

Regarding the aforementioned Senator Lambie, there was something else quite nasty which she said recently that now seems somewhat prophetic.

She was speaking about the wicked unvaxxed and how “we’re going to hunt you down” or words to that effect. Who was the “we” she mentioned?

I wonder if Corporal Lambie, Military Police, was referring to her former colleagues in arms as the Military Police are now exercising with the civilian police, stopping cars, checking identities, etc. in north Queensland.

Military police exercise with police unsettling Charters Towers residents

Zipster
Zipster
November 22, 2021 7:48 pm

Groomer Schools 1: The Long Cultural Marxist History of Sex Education

The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 54

Through brand names like “comprehensive sex education” and one of its parent programs, “Social-Emotional Learning (SEL),” our government schools have been turned into Groomer Schools, and parents are beginning to notice. What many will not understand, however, is that this isn’t just a fluke of our weird and increasingly degenerate times. It is, in fact, a long-purposed Marxist project reaching back into the early 20th century. In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, join James Lindsay as he explains the long history of the sexual grooming that has come into our schools through Critical Gender Theory and Queer Theory as they have crept into educational programs. If you want an explanation for how sexually explicit materials, gender ideology, pornography, and strippers have made their way into our government schools, including for young children, this is a must-hear.

Cassie of Sydney
November 22, 2021 7:49 pm

“I was an LDP member, I respect them especially the Vic ones. Just that are low energy, I asked Limbrick several times to take a more active stance at the height of Dans lockdowns, his response was “Do you want me to break the law?”.”

I think Limbrick has done a sterling job. I also think Limbrick and the Lib Dems will be around long after the UAP.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 7:52 pm

Another man who had been travelling with the 77-year-old, who did not wish to be named, said he believed the NT government had failed in its duty of care by not searching the man’s bags for any alcohol.

Get the right judge and he’s probably right. New Landcruisers all round.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 7:52 pm

Didn’t Lambie have DVA chasing her for their money back? Not sure of the reason.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 7:55 pm

Military Police playing at Civpol?
I suppose decking the meatheads and running away is a lost art.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 22, 2021 7:55 pm

sfwsays:
November 22, 2021 at 5:26 pm
Just got an email re UAP preselection, I’m on a shortlist, phone interview late tomorrow arvo.

Good luck!

And remember, during your political career you’ll always get lots of helpful advice on this site ?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 7:58 pm

Didn’t Lambie have DVA chasing her for their money back? Not sure of the reason.

From memory, they had her under surveillance, concluded she was malingering, fought her claim for years, then changed their minds and allowed it.

Roger
Roger
November 22, 2021 7:58 pm

And remember, during your political career you’ll always get lots of helpful advice on this site ?

We can be your focus group!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 22, 2021 7:58 pm

What would be on the ballot paper though?
Safe For Work, like in the attachments?
So F#cking What, like in the 90’s?
Sebastien Ffyfe-Whittington, like in the Home Counties?

Winston Smith
November 22, 2021 7:59 pm

Rex Anger:

I much prefer the idea that the election laws mandate all results are reported the instant they are tallied, with actions taken to scrutinise any voting authority that runs beyond a reasonable set time for the population in its area of responsibility, and/or the aforementioned reporting deadline.

I would prefer the votes were all counted in by a 24 hour deadline.
Any arriving after that would not be counted.
Unfortunately that could be challenged Constitutionally.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 8:01 pm

McBride got into trouble years later for faking research on some other drug, but this is the first I’ve seen suggesting he faked any thalidomide research.
Any link or source?

Do your own research, Timothy.
McBride investigated Debendox in the 1980s, it was also a Morning Sicknees drug and his published findings either caused the drug to be withdrawn or killed it’s marketability, or both, I forget which.
Enter the ABCs Dr Norman Swan, who proved that McBride faked some of the research.
McBride was forced to retire from Foundation 41 and lived on another 30 years out of the limelight.
Swan revisited McBride’s research on Thalidomide and found that he had fudged some stuff there too.

Of course it was too late to rehabilitate Thalidomide as a Morning Sickness drug, but Big Pharma, thru the hand of Swan, had got Square with McBride.
The entire Thalidomide story sounds incredible, but doctors gave Premmies pure Oxygen in the US for about 20 years before it was halted.
Tens of Thousands of Babies were blinded for life.

sfw
sfw
November 22, 2021 8:02 pm

Cassie, the LDP in Vic have done well, the problem is that they could’ve done much better. They are supporting the rallies but they’re leading from behind. There was a point earlier in the year where any politician could’ve called for a protest at parliament house and they would’ve had a huge response. But they wouldn’t because it is “against the law”. So eventually the people without any real leadership coalesced into protest groups, now belatedly the LDP and others are tacking on. Too little, too late, they could’ve lead the revolt against Dan but “it is against the law”.

Vagabond
Vagabond
November 22, 2021 8:06 pm

The older victims are approaching 70 , it was only banned due to faked research by Dr McBride,

McBride got into trouble years later for faking research on some other drug, but this is the first I’ve seen suggesting he faked any thalidomide research.

McBride identified the link between thalidomide and birth defects and was rightly credited for it. The problem arose when success went to his head and he became obsessed with finding other drugs that also caused birth defects. He set his sights on a tablet called Debendox which had been used for years and was quite effective for pregnancy morning sickness . There was no convincing evidence that it caused birth defects but the manufacturer took it off the market because of the risk of litigation and the cost of defending any claims.

That prick consigned generations of pregnant women to months of misery.

What I call the McBride syndrome still exists in the world of medical research.

Bluey
Bluey
November 22, 2021 8:07 pm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, repeatedly. Governments throughout the western world are losing or have lost legitimacy. There’s a seismic change occurring, but what comes out of it I don’t know. A Heinlein style system? Dictatorships? Buggered if I know….

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 22, 2021 8:09 pm

LDP’s got a good constitution, but I’m not saying that it should stand unaltered forever.
LDP has some good pollies, but don’t count on them forever. Leyonhjelm was great value for a while, but let himself down on the way out. I don’t really dig Newman, and Kelly was a lost opportunity for recruitment. Fierravanti-Wells and Canavan should be actively courted.
Remains to be seen how membership might grow, and that’s where the growing power should be.
Unfortunately, UAP have the momentum for this stage of the “electoral cycle”. A Cat-style sweepstakes should be set up for defections inside 12 months.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 22, 2021 8:10 pm

Oh FFS not Heinlein again
Took us ten days to get him out of our system the last time he was mentioned

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 8:12 pm

I much prefer the idea that the election laws mandate pistols at dawn.

Dot
Dot
November 22, 2021 8:14 pm

All that matters is that UAP-PHON-LDP gain as many seats as possible and ALP-GRN-LN/P lose as many seats as possible.

Nothing else matters.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 8:16 pm

… here was no convincing evidence that it caused birth defects but the manufacturer took it off the market because of the risk of litigation and the cost of defending any claims.

Do you really need convincing evidence when the risk is gross deformity to a baby?
Apply the risk matrix.:
Potential Hazard: Catastrophic
Risk?
Well, we don’t know, but we spent a shitload of dosh inventing this crap, would you like a sling?

That prick consigned generations of pregnant women to months of misery.

Morning Sickness is a symptom, not a disease.
Pregnancy isn’t a disease either, though you could be forgiven for assuming it is.

Winston Smith
November 22, 2021 8:16 pm

ZK2A:

Jacquie Lambie enlisted as a transport driver. She transferred to the “elephant trackers” as a “Traffic Control Specialist” – her job was to wear the red beret, and the reflective gauntlets, and make sure all the trucks in the convey followed each other at the traffic lights.

Don’t think I’d like to be a TCS during hostilities – they’d be a very high priority target for infiltrators seeking to disrupt resupply convoys.

Roger
Roger
November 22, 2021 8:22 pm

Another man who had been travelling with the 77-year-old, who did not wish to be named, said he believed the NT government had failed in its duty of care by not searching the man’s bags for any alcohol.

Many good men and more than a few women served and died so that subsequent generations could have government hold their hand and lead them through life from the cradle to the grave.

We are not worthy of their sacrifice.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 22, 2021 8:27 pm
Winston Smith
November 22, 2021 8:27 pm

Twostix:

(a) injures himself or herself or causes or permits himself or herself to be injured.

I guess getting a sex change operation which means you would then be downgraded to Base Operations only, because resupply of your medications wouldn’t be guaranteed.
Yes?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 8:32 pm

Don’t think I’d like to be a TCS during hostilities – they’d be a very high priority target for infiltrators seeking to disrupt resupply convoys.

Way back when, I used to work with an expat Pom, who was a veteran of the Normandy campaign. He said it was there he encountered the only “Redcaps” he ever had any respect for – the TCS directing conveys at crossroads, etc who had a high casualty rate from German artillery fire.

Roger
Roger
November 22, 2021 8:33 pm

I note Morrison has rebuffed a cross-party attempt to have Commonwealth health directives subject to parliamentary scrutiny up to and including disallowance measures.

It’s a pity Steve Kates doesn’t hang about on the OTs; he might learn something about the West’s “greatest political leader”.

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 8:37 pm

Dotsays:
November 22, 2021 at 8:14 pm
All that matters is that UAP-PHON-LDP gain as many seats as possible and ALP-GRN-LN/P lose as many seats as possible.

Nothing else matters.

No. All that matters is that every HOR member loses their seat. A couple of election cycles of that and the Uniparty will be much more responsive to the proles. If the UAP-PHON-LDP pick up seats that’s a bonus.

Muddy
Muddy
November 22, 2021 8:44 pm

WOTN.
We Owe Them (the elites) NOTHING.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 8:45 pm

I note Morrison has rebuffed a cross-party attempt to have Commonwealth health directives subject to parliamentary scrutiny up to and including disallowance measures.

Good job.
It would only be used for grandstanding by Labor and The Greens.
Imagine if the Directive was to halt the Vaxxy Program and destroy the remaining stocks.?
Straight to the Committee, some clown would accuse Scotty of having blood on his hands.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 8:46 pm

Oh FFS not Heinlein again
Took us ten days to get him out of our system the last time he was mentioned

Do you not want to know more?

#F***PaulVerhoeven

#RealAndProperTreatmentForStarshipTroopersNow!

Roger
Roger
November 22, 2021 8:49 pm

Good job. It would only be used for grandstanding by Labor and The Greens.

Er…the proposal came from a Liberal-Labor working group.

Parliamentary oversight of the Executive…what a bad idea!

Be that as it may…a penny for your thoughts on the AUKUS announcement re subs made today?

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 8:50 pm

Winston Smith,
A job like TCS would have suited me. Usually so far to the rear they have to send their laundry forward.
Generally. In continental warfare crossroads aren’t generally a nice place to hang around.
But if I had been a meat head I would have even less mates than I do now.

Muddy
Muddy
November 22, 2021 8:50 pm

I’ve just finished watching Ashes in the Snow on DVD. It’s a fictional story (based on a novel) of a family of Lithuanians exiled to Siberia late in the Second World War.

I’m not convinced that history repeats, in terms of ‘stop, rewind, play.’ I think that it slumbers, or hibernates, perhaps.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 8:54 pm

Er…the proposal came from a Liberal-Labor working group.

No surprises.
There’s also going to be a Senate Inquiry over the ABC being less than complimentary to Neville Wran and a few other shady characters.

Roger
Roger
November 22, 2021 8:54 pm

I’m not convinced that history repeats, in terms of ‘stop, rewind, play.’ I think that it slumbers, or hibernates, perhaps.

It repeats against different backgrounds; at least since 1789 it does.

Winston Smith
November 22, 2021 8:55 pm

Bluey:

There’s a seismic change occurring, but what comes out of it I don’t know. A Heinlein style system? Dictatorships? Buggered if I know….

Which Heinlein system? He wrote of many.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 8:55 pm

Starship Troopers. What a great movie. Saw it on free to air the other day in Hospital.
Book was ok too.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 22, 2021 8:56 pm

But if I had been a meat head I would have even less mates than I do now.

More head kickers than meat heads.

My Dad told me that they were recruited by other Military Police who had to break up and arrest troops involved in pub brawls and the like. If they saw a soldier knock someone down, and then start kicking the downed bloke’s head, then he was transferred to the Military Police.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 22, 2021 8:58 pm

Swan revisited McBride’s research on Thalidomide and found that he had fudged some stuff there too.

Really? What was “fudged”?

Was it “faked research” as you first claimed, or something else which you’re now shifting the goalposts to?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 9:02 pm

Roger

We can be your focus group!

What could possibly go wrong?

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 9:02 pm

I’m trying to think which was my favourite scene in Starship Troopers.

Muddy
Muddy
November 22, 2021 9:06 pm

Baba says:
November 22, 2021 at 8:37 pm

All that matters is that every HOR member loses their seat.

Agreed. Let’s keep it simple. Here today, gone tomorrow.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 9:08 pm

Winston Smith,
Have you tried reading one of those charts such as you put up on an IPad? I can guarantee you hours of fun.
I am not gruntled.

Bons
November 22, 2021 9:08 pm

Murray on Sky!
Dedicated Pfizer agent.
CNN wouldn’t touch the creep.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 9:11 pm

If they saw a soldier knock someone down, and then start kicking the downed bloke’s head, then he was transferred to the Military Police.

I was told that, if you were mean enough to knock a cripple off his crutches, and kick him, you were transferred to the Military Police.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 9:12 pm

The Punisher – Dirty Laundry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc

Bons
November 22, 2021 9:21 pm

Hey Dan, sweety.
I ain’t an extremist. In fact, I am really ordinary and boring.
But you are making lots of us transition.
You’ll learn my pronouns next Saturday.

Muddy
Muddy
November 22, 2021 9:22 pm

For military history nerds:

Modern War in an Ancient Land, Volumes I and II (Afghanistan).

PDF format. I think the download is free, but cannot confirm that yet.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 9:24 pm

R

eally? What was “fudged”?

Was it “faked research” as you first claimed, or something else which you’re now shifting the goalposts to?

Give it a rest Timothy.
You asked me a question, I assumed good faith and answered you.
If you now choose to act the goat, go for your life, no one’s stopping you.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 9:27 pm

You asked me a question, I assumed good faith and answered you.

Righto, Gypsum-snorter…

You get any more [crystalline] salty, you might poison yourself…

Muddy
Muddy
November 22, 2021 9:27 pm

Yes, the downloads are free, and both volumes are substantial: 436 pages and 580 pages.
Clarification: Both volumes together cover the period 2001 to 2014 only.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 22, 2021 9:35 pm

More head kickers than meat heads.

My Dad told me that they were recruited by other Military Police who had to break up and arrest troops involved in pub brawls and the like.

Battalions used to have Regimental Police, who were the aforementioned head kickers and selected because the other grunts were extremely unlikely to mouth off at them if there was a contretemps at the boozer or similar to the point where the RPs were summoned.

They weren’t the MPs though. Known as the ‘No Mates Corps’, they were hardly ever seen in my experience*. Saw a couple of open-topped landrovers lurking about from time to time. Red berets. Generally inspid-looking. We thought they were best left alone though, if for no other reason than we didn’t know what they could or couldn’t do to us.

*Quite a while ago now.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 9:38 pm

Battalions used to have Regimental Police,

One of the newbies asked what the “R.P.” stood for, on the armband…

“Rotten Prick” said a voice, from among the crowd.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 9:39 pm

ortressamerica.gawker.com/your-isis-goat-fucking-drone-video-not-isis-not-a-goa-1644378600

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 22, 2021 9:47 pm

Governments throughout the western world are losing or have lost legitimacy. There’s a seismic change occurring, but what comes out of it I don’t know.
Given the damage governments have done, anarchy has had an undeservedly bad rap.

srr
srr
November 22, 2021 9:47 pm

Austria Lock Up the Unvaccinated
[Old Habits Die Hard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un5JQFhdSLw

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
44K views
13 hours ago

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 22, 2021 9:48 pm

Twitter shows the driver of the red SUV as a genuine domestic terrorist.
Premeditated.
But even Fox isn’t touching it yet.
Over 20 arrests.
Multiple states.
Child sex convictions.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 22, 2021 9:48 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 9:49 pm

@ Muddy-

Those PDFs you linked are not paywalled, nor locked.

Cheers mate. These look like an interesting bit of Kindle-fodder. They’ll go nicely as a downtime read at some stage. 🙂

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 9:51 pm

Austria Lock Up the Unvaccinated

It could be for their own good!
Remember only the UnVaxxinated possess Organs worth harvesting, and Austria is a pretty lawless place these days.
On the other hand …

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 22, 2021 9:58 pm

Speaking of military police, a lot of armies have had such types stationed in the rear of the very front line, to prevent anyone turning around and making off in an assault.

Somewhere I have an Australian WWII field manual, which advised officers if they encountered such behaviour, to unholster their pistol and shoot the first one, to “discourage any others”.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 9:59 pm

The destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas: How the Taliban obliterated the 6th-century monuments to deny their own past

rickw
rickw
November 22, 2021 10:00 pm

Does parliamentary privilege allow one to slug TBM in the face?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 22, 2021 10:04 pm

Ladies night anyone?

A CASUARINA shopper was allegedly threatened with a knife while defending a retail worker from teenage thieves.

NT Police said three youths were arrested in connection to a robbery at a shop in Casuarina Square shopping centre.

The NT News understands that a Lovisa store worker was allegedly assaulted and shopping centre security were put on alert after a trio attempted to steal from the jewellery store.

NT Police alleged one of the young offenders assaulted the worker, and when a male customer tried to intervene a knife was pulled on him.

Police said the trio ran off after the alleged assault.

Three female youths were arrested and put into custody a short time later.

Police said investigations into the Casuarina Square shopping centre were continuing.

Bluey
Bluey
November 22, 2021 10:06 pm

Bluey:

There’s a seismic change occurring, but what comes out of it I don’t know. A Heinlein style system? Dictatorships? Buggered if I know….

Which Heinlein system? He wrote of many.

Begs the question doesn’t it? It seems pretty obvious to me that the current systems of universal voting franchise are not working. How do you limit it to worthy people without it being corrupted by some who see power in expanding the franchise? In a lot of ways I can see a benevolent dictatorship being about the best form of government.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 10:08 pm

Muddy

Locked to me.

post the link at AdamCat please.

personally I would glass Afghanistan and most of Northern Pakistan.

rickw
rickw
November 22, 2021 10:11 pm

But they wouldn’t because it is “against the law”.

They are all definitely leading from behind.

The whole vaccine mandate issue is almost passed, almost everyone who didn’t want it has been screwed into submission.

At least The People aren’t forgetting what was done to them.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 22, 2021 10:13 pm

Give it a rest Timothy.
You asked me a question, I assumed good faith and answered you.
If you now choose to act the goat, go for your life, no one’s stopping you.

So the answer is that you were shifting the goalposts in an attempt to cover up that your original comment that McBride has “faked research” on thalidomide was bogus.

rickw
rickw
November 22, 2021 10:17 pm

The destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas: How the Taliban obliterated the 6th-century monuments to deny their own past

I don’t understand why the didn’t save them by turning the area into a drone powered meat grinder. The logic of the jihadi’s is such that you could have killed almost every last one of them, like moths to a flame.

Mater
November 22, 2021 10:17 pm

rickw,

Ed Case reckons it was inappropriate for me to wear a Black T-Shirt to the anti-mandate protest on Saturday. Apparently it’s the colour of Anarchy.

How many people do you estimate took photos of my shirt, and commented on it’s appropriateness?

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 10:21 pm

Enough of this talk about RPs. Someone was made the RP Sgt for a while because of his boxing and rugby prowess. Not because his gentle irony was mistaken for biting sarcasm.
The singing fist of correction only had to be used a couple of times and good manners and orderly conduct were the order of the day.
Marvellous chap. Absolutely marvellous. Nature’s gentleman.

John H.
John H.
November 22, 2021 10:22 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
November 22, 2021 at 8:58 pm
Swan revisited McBride’s research on Thalidomide and found that he had fudged some stuff there too.

Really? What was “fudged”?

Was it “faked research” as you first claimed, or something else which you’re now shifting the goalposts to?

Timothy McBride fudged the research because it was obvious to a perspective person that sometimes you don’t need a randomised double blinded study to see the bloody obvious and children’s lives were at stake. Unfortunately medicine still thinks such studies are a gold standard. That’s nonsense, I don’t like Popper’s falsification method but if I understand Quine correctly I prefer his more “holistic” approach to determining the veracity of an idea. That is, it is the body of evidence we need to look at, not whether a single study falsifies a theory; though that is still an important consideration. I trust Dover Beach will correct me if I am wrong about Quine’s epistemology.

McBride was punished while Big Pharma has time and again being caught out fudging data and the fines barely touch their profits.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 22, 2021 10:23 pm

Speaking of military police, a lot of armies have had such types stationed in the rear of the very front line, to prevent anyone turning around and making off in an assault.

British Army was supposed to have had “battle police” in the very front lines during “Wobbly Wobbly 1′ to prevent anyone turning round and making off.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 22, 2021 10:23 pm

Mater,
They say black is slimming. I have not found that to be true.

Mater
November 22, 2021 10:24 pm

They say black is slimming. I have not found that to be true.

It must be, they keep stopping me for photos.

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 10:26 pm

FlyingPigssays:
November 22, 2021 at 9:59 pm
The destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas: How the Taliban obliterated the 6th-century monuments to deny their own past

In 1978 it was a very beautiful, friendly place.

Mountains, desert, snow-capped peaks in the distance, poplar lined melt-water fed creek irrigating rich fields, fresh hot naan out of the brick oven for breakfast.

All under the gaze of the Buddhas.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 10:26 pm

gunna be funny when the first AUKUS submarine floats into Sydney Harbour in 2050 and no one is there to greet them.

Or pay for it.

NET ZERO.

The French should be so lucky.

rickw
rickw
November 22, 2021 10:27 pm

How many people do you estimate took photos of my shirt, and commented on it’s appropriateness?

At least 25 took photos, who knows how many observed it and gave it a nod of approval!

It’s not about the colour, it’s the content that counts!

Muddy
Muddy
November 22, 2021 10:27 pm

FlyingPigs says:
post the link at AdamCat please.

Done, FP.

rickw
rickw
November 22, 2021 10:31 pm

In 1978 it was a very beautiful, friendly place.

Mountains, desert, snow-capped peaks in the distance, poplar lined melt-water fed creek irrigating rich fields, fresh hot naan out of the brick oven for breakfast.

On a flight from Herat to Kandahar I went to the back of the aircraft to get a few scenery snaps. In the end I didn’t stop taking photographs for the whole flight. Spectacular country.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 10:39 pm

Baba says:
November 22, 2021 at 10:26 pm

iran

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 22, 2021 10:43 pm

The destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas: How the Taliban obliterated the 6th-century monuments to deny their own past

The Pashtun have only a short past in Afghanistan.
The Hazara were the majority until the British funded and armed the Pashtun to make War on them, in the 1880s.
2/3 of the Hazara were murdered.
The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 10:43 pm

is mater that bastard in a black shirt???

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 10:43 pm

And the six impossibly deep blue lakes of Band-e Amir. Surrounded by hillsides full of marine fossils.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 22, 2021 10:44 pm

John H.says:
November 22, 2021 at 10:22 pm
Timothy McBride fudged the research

Thalidomide research?
Or the other one which came later?
In fact did he do “research” on thalidomide at all? Or did he just publish his observations?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 10:44 pm

Remember only the UnVaxxinated possess Organs worth harvesting, and Austria is a pretty lawless place these days.

Only two bullshits per post, Grigory?

What an utter disappointment you are today.

I want to see 3 new and non-recycled gypsum-fuelled wrongologies or speculations in every post you make here tomorrow, or I will report you to your Commissars for your work-shyness and lack of Revolutionary fervour.

(Always remember to whip your trolls for peak performance, Cats… 🙂 )

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 10:47 pm

The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

You are likely right, Ed.

Megan
Megan
November 22, 2021 10:48 pm

How many people do you estimate took photos of my shirt, and commented on it’s appropriateness?

I did, for one. Very flattering shirt with an even better message. And I wasn’t aware there was a dress code, I must not have been paying attention.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 10:50 pm

love your work Ed Case.

Charlemagne’s mother has a lot to answer for the way she raised her son.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 10:52 pm

The Hazara were the majority until the British funded and armed the Pashtun to make War on them, in the 1880s.
2/3 of the Hazara were murdered.
The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

Where is your proof of that, Grigory?

The Pashtun and Hazara are both Persian-derived, the former the latter descending from Mongol and Turkic settlers.

Both have existed in Afghanistan for 9-10,000 years or so.

In fact the Hazara are still more prevalent in numbers in Afghanistan (despite the Pashtuns’ best efforts), they are just slightly less inclined towards murdering and conquering their neighbours with the backing of Pakistan.

So fuck off and begone with your latest attempt to mendaciously shit on 3 lots of far better people than you, Pashtun, Hazara and British alike.

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 10:52 pm

FlyingPigssays:
November 22, 2021 at 10:39 pm
Baba says:
November 22, 2021 at 10:26 pm

iran

Yes. For 10 days. From a week after the ‘mass shooting’. The hotel manager, a really top bloke, was in the army reserve and went on duty every night. I often wonder what happened to him.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 10:53 pm

The Pashtun and Hazara are both Persian-derived, the former the latter descending from Mongol and Turkic settlers.

Correction:

The Pashtun and Hazara are both Persian-derived, the latter descending from Mongol and Turkic settlers in Persia.

MatrixTransform
November 22, 2021 10:54 pm

they’ve unleashed the whirlwind, but are too dumb to realise it.

yep

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 10:57 pm

thanks muddy

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 11:00 pm

The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

You are likely right, Ed.

No, the Gypsum-snorter is not.

The Taliban wiped the statues because they deemed them idolatrous, aside from the fact they are not of Islam
A close reading of the Koran will reveal that making any form of image of Allah, the Prophet or any other living being is strictly forbidden.

This is why the Arabs and their descendents have historically gone so hard on mosaics and geometric patterns. And even then, much of that in Saudi Arabia got wiped out by the Sunni-aligned House of Saud and the Wahhabis in the 30s, because it was made by the Shia-aligned Hashemites they had driven out.

Bitchy schoolgirl cliques have got nothing on the violent pettiness of the descendants of the two feuding brothers wanted to be the Caliph (functional ruler) of Islam after Mo carked it.

cohenite
November 22, 2021 11:01 pm

The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

Nope. The Twin Buddhas and the Twin Towers were destroyed for the same reason: they indicated a time before and after islam. Islam prescribes that nothing precedes the vile fucking thing and no other future exists. You want nihilism, you got all there is right there.

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 11:08 pm

Why didn’t the Moslem Hazaras destroy the Buddhas?

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 11:10 pm

Is it because they knew their ancestors carved them pre Islamic conversion?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 11:11 pm

Rex Anger says:
November 22, 2021 at 11:00 pm

what Rex said.

Personally I would glass Mecca.

Video: Raymond Ibrahim at the German Parliament

Freedom Center Shillman Fellow enlightens Europe’s most powerful nation on Islam.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/11/video-raymond-ibrahim-german-parliament-raymond-ibrahim/

Razey
Razey
November 22, 2021 11:12 pm

rickwsays:
November 22, 2021 at 10:11 pm
But they wouldn’t because it is “against the law”.

They are all definitely leading from behind.

The whole vaccine mandate issue is almost passed, almost everyone who didn’t want it has been screwed into submission.

At least The People aren’t forgetting what was done to them.

The heart damaging shot mandates are far from over. The passports were brought in to ensure the 6 monthly game of Russian roulette. The vax’d must protest passports and mandates as much as the unvax’d.

Baba
Baba
November 22, 2021 11:13 pm

Say what you like about the moosleys. At least they haven’t yet had a Communist caliph.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 11:14 pm

Why didn’t the Moslem Hazaras destroy the Buddhas?

Likely because the original carvers paid their jizya religious tax to their Muslim occupiers, and then subsequent generations of muslims didn’t much care.

You will note that there is as much variation in expressions of ‘piety’ and devotion (read ‘Rules Lawyering’) across Muslim peoples worldwide. The Taliban being one of the more fascistic examples.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 11:16 pm

cohenite says:
November 22, 2021 at 11:01 pm

The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

Nope. The Twin Buddhas and the Twin Towers were destroyed for the same reason: they indicated a time before and after islam. Islam prescribes that nothing precedes the vile fucking thing and no other future exists. You want nihilism, you got all there is right there.

MatrixTransform
November 22, 2021 11:19 pm

Any of the techies here have a view on this

total fucking gibberish for a start.
Watts, Volts, Watts … was this written by a retard?

the fuck you need 1000Vdc for?
isolation points?
only a mong will be pulling apart 1kV dc connectors

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 11:19 pm

Sorry Cats, I forgot to include a cheeky analogy in my post at 11.14pm.

Let me try again:

You will note that there is as much variation in expressions of ‘piety’ and devotion (read ‘Rules Lawyering’) across Muslim peoples worldwide, as there are in most other organised religions. And particularly towards any football code or team you care to name.

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 11:22 pm

Don’t click here if you don’t want to see a possessed person.

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 11:24 pm

These are the people calling normal people “whackos”.

You know why? Because you’re living in hell world.

That’s why.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 11:24 pm

Baba says:
November 22, 2021 at 11:13 pm

Say what you like about the moosleys. At least they haven’t yet had a Communist caliph.

That is perfect Baba.

Love it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/23/turkeys-erdogan-orders-expulsion-of-10-western-ambassadors

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 11:27 pm

& FlyingPigs

To be honest, there is no way that any Muslim would become Caliph (Assuming you could get them all to act together, somehow) if they were Communist.

Simply because Islam will never tolerate the competition… 🙂

Twostix
Twostix
November 22, 2021 11:27 pm

The only way out of this is to return to the god of our fathers.

We’ll continue living in this Babylonian demon possessed cult ridden hell until we all do you know.

Crossie
Crossie
November 22, 2021 11:30 pm

dover0beach says:
November 22, 2021 at 10:59 pm
Josh Frydenberg on Nanna Mitchell this morning. What a fraud.

Josh is in the wrong job, he should not be a politician. Most of the current crop are the same. Real politicians will gauge what the voters want and deliver as much as possible in exchange for votes. Nobody is asking the politicians to actually believe the same as the voters, just to deliver on their promises.

The current crop are telling the voters that they stink and then ask for their votes. They are not frauds, just stupid. Why would anyone vote for stupid politicians?

Crossie
Crossie
November 22, 2021 11:33 pm

Twostix says:
November 22, 2021 at 11:22 pm
Don’t click here if you don’t want to see a possessed person.

Who needs horror movies when it’s right there on the 6:30 news?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 22, 2021 11:35 pm

Twostix says:
November 22, 2021 at 11:22 pm
Don’t click here if you don’t want to see a possessed person.

I only could watch for a couple of seconds – did it projectile vomit thick green pea soup?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 11:36 pm

In a lot of ways I can see a benevolent dictatorship being about the best form of government.

They all start out as benevolent.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 22, 2021 11:40 pm

Rex A

Moosley stuff is the actual origin of centralized control.

Socialism, Communism, Democrats, whatever you want to call it, it is all about control.

And we are the peasants… if we survive.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 22, 2021 11:41 pm

Rex Anger says

Simply because Islam will never tolerate the competition… ?

Why would you need one when you had the other?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 22, 2021 11:45 pm

Crossie says:
November 22, 2021 at 11:30 pm
The current crop are telling the voters that they stink and then ask for their votes.

In all honesty, they are all acting (around the world as well) as though our votes do not matter – there will be no more free/fair elections.

Dan XiMan will hammer through his Enabling Act & VikPol will shoot protestors.
The other states will follow – Parrot Head is just a puppet, carrying on the good works of Glad Bags.
PalaceChook will follow – the fuckwit in the NT is deranged and dangerous & Sneakers McClown will follow suit.
And Scummo is the instigator and leader of all this – I wonder what his reward will be? (On Earth that is, there’s not much doubt regarding his long term reward). Unfortunately for Scummo, his puppeteers will not be able to trust someone who sold out his own people and country, so he will probably get a walk downstairs to that room with the tiled floor & drains.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 22, 2021 11:47 pm

Crossie says:
November 22, 2021 at 11:33 pm

Who needs horror movies when it’s right there on the 6:30 news?

Thanks Crossie – I’m gonna have that fucking tune in my head for hours now. 🙁

MatrixTransform
November 22, 2021 11:56 pm

In all honesty, they are all acting (around the world as well) as though our votes do not matter – there will be no more free/fair elections.

people, unfortunately, are slowly working it out.

MatrixTransform
November 22, 2021 11:57 pm

your problem people, is your neighbour

MatrixTransform
November 22, 2021 11:58 pm

history rhymes

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 22, 2021 11:59 pm

On a flight from Herat to Kandahar I went to the back of the aircraft to get a few scenery snaps. In the end I didn’t stop taking photographs for the whole flight. Spectacular country.

Yep, did you go a bit south of Kandahar? To where the desert sand shifts abruptly to red?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 22, 2021 11:59 pm

Moosley stuff is the actual origin of centralized control.

Socialism, Communism, Democrats, whatever you want to call it, it is all about control.

Well, yes.

But I’ve yet to see a Marxist who could handle the truth that their beloved Saint Karl was an envious, malevolent plagiarising little squit with delusions of grandeur and totalitarian power fantasies. And whose utter misreading of the social and historical events that shaped his time makes our resident wrongologist Grigsock look like a savant.

I cannot think of a single other plagiarist who is ultimately responsible for 120+ million deaths and ongoing immeasurable human misery and suffering in the 130-odd years since his pulp-fiction was first published.

Baba
Baba
November 23, 2021 12:05 am

The best thing about Afghanistan is that it has no trains. Or train drivers.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 23, 2021 12:16 am

Baba says:
November 23, 2021 at 12:05 am
The best thing about Afghanistan is that it has no trains. Or train drivers.

And so it starts…..
I’ll let Rex the Angry deal with this – me going to bed
Sic him Rex.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 23, 2021 12:37 am

I cannot think of a single other plagiarist who is ultimately responsible for 120+ million deaths and ongoing immeasurable human misery and suffering in the 130-odd years since his pulp-fiction was first published.

The people who created a fuckhead called Mo actually plagiarized the entire Jewish Torah and The Christian Bible and have spent nigh on 1500 years to eliminate everyone that does not believe what they say.

They, Mo’s mob, have wiped out fucking billions.

Did you not know how Hitler was supported by Mo’s mob???

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 23, 2021 12:40 am

Did you not know how Hitler was supported by Mo’s mob???

I did. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem gave his blessing (and I think, funds) to raising an Arab Battalion of the Waffen-SS.

The people who created a fuckhead called Mo actually plagiarized the entire Jewish Torah and The Christian Bible and have spent nigh on 1500 years to eliminate everyone that does not believe what they say.

There is that. I think they kinda leave Marx’s 120+ million in 130 years in the shade…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 23, 2021 12:44 am

Baba says:
November 23, 2021 at 12:05 am
The best thing about Afghanistan is that it has no trains. Or train drivers.

And so it starts…..
I’ll let Rex the Angry deal with this – me going to bed
Sic him Rex.

Not a problem, my good Sir!

@ Baba:
Read and weep, Baby! 😀

http://www.andrewgrantham.co.uk/afghanistan/

Iron rails tether everything to the world.

Everything… 0_0

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