Open Thread – Tues 24 May 2022


Expulsion from the Garden of Eden, Thomas Cole, 1828

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Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
May 25, 2022 6:16 pm

In episode elentyfive gazillion of the left kicking their political opponents (and their families) when they are down, Kathy Lette has taken a nasty swipe at outgoing First Lady Jenny Morrison by criticising the dress she chose to wear on election night.
She gloated that it looked similar to a dress worn by a villain from The Handmaid’s Tale.

Ironically, Jenny’s dress was a very light teal colour and designed by Allegra Spender’s late mother’s fashion house.

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 6:16 pm

so there is plenty of time to provide constructive counsel on erroneous analysis at our leisure.

A pretty well constructed casual line with an undertone of menace.

MatrixTransform
May 25, 2022 6:16 pm

The theory advanced yesterday that the then current count represented actual final turnout is a total bust.

begging the question

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 25, 2022 6:16 pm

Speaking of gun violence and gangland hits..

Get Carter has a restoration done and re-release, looks pretty damn good for its age.

https://youtu.be/0NtstlDW0Zo

bespoke
bespoke
May 25, 2022 6:16 pm

but even a stupid person knows what an AR is.

“Assault rifle”-CNN.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 25, 2022 6:18 pm

rickw, I’m not sure the Koreans shot anyone.

I am.
They shot plenty.
Koreans in LA moved out of the convenience Store business shortly after that, though.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 25, 2022 6:20 pm

IMO no man has the moral authority to demand a woman carry a pregnancy that she does not want. It is her body, her choice.

But if she does carry the pregnancy to term you then expect the man to pay for the privilege for 18 years, no woman has the moral authority to demand a man finance her lifestyle. IMO It is his money, his choice.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 25, 2022 6:24 pm

“Assault rifle”-CNN.

“Automatic Rifle” – MSNBC

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 6:25 pm

but even a stupid person knows what an AR is.

Correct.

However, for some people it is pronounced ‘broomstick’.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 25, 2022 6:25 pm

As if a fat little turd could pick and choose sheilas.

He can if they are “Ladies of Negotiable Virtue” .

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 6:26 pm

There are tens of options for contraception, abortion on top of that, there really isn’t a need for abortion outside of rare circumstances and if that is not accepted, there is certainly no right to welfare or child support.

“My body, my choice; but someone else will pay for the choice I make”

More like your money, my choice.

The whole purpose is to facilitate wealth transfer, governmental financial power and and the cult of the state.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 6:26 pm

feelthebernsays:
May 25, 2022 at 5:33 pm
Why does it take so bloody long to count votes?

Actually, ‘bern, the move away from in person voting on the day has a lot to do with it.
Counting “in person” reps votes with maybe six candidates is relatively easy, at least at first preference stage.
It would take about two seconds to scan a ballot and allocate it to a box.
A postal vote would have to be opened, the name and address located and marked off the roll, and the vote categorised as to first preference. And there would no doubt be issues with legibility on a good number of envelopes. With live voting, that is resolved in seconds.
For example, there are at least four people in my electorate with the same name. I have had to point out more than once, “No, the one in Springfield, not Shelbyville”.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 25, 2022 6:26 pm

Britt Ekland was a smashing bit of crumpet.

miltonf
miltonf
May 25, 2022 6:27 pm
Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 6:27 pm

“Why does it take so bloody long to count votes?”

James Allen was on Alan Jones the other night saying the same thing. In Canada they count through the night, whereas here they finish at midnight.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 6:27 pm

AR – Armalite serial numbers.

jupes
jupes
May 25, 2022 6:27 pm

Leftards are the dumbest people ever born.

And yet they rule over us.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 25, 2022 6:28 pm

McGowan pans Victoria in GST row
Paul Garvey
PAUL GARVEY

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has slammed Victoria over its decision to spend billions hosting the Commonwealth Games at the same time it is calling for WA’s share of GST revenues to fall.

Mr McGowan used Victoria’s Commonwealth Games commitments as an example of the need for other states to better manage their budgets, rather than try to erode WA’s cut of the GST.

“They just wanted to spend $2.6bn on getting the Commonwealth Games and putting it in Bendigo,” he said on Wednesday. “I mean, if they want to spend that amount of money on the Commonwealth Games in Bendigo, and then complain about not having enough money, well maybe they should make different decisions.”

WA last year considered making a bid for the Games.

“We decided not to go for the Commonwealth Games because I didn’t want to, in an uncertain world, go and spend two and a half billion dollars on something that is a ‘nice to have’, whilst what we want to do is fund our hospitals properly, deal with important health issues, pay down debt, and diversify the economy. That’s my view, that there’s more important priorities than that,” he said.

While Labor is in power in Victoria and WA, the state governments have repeatedly butted heads over the carve-up of the GST.

Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas earlier this year called for an overhaul of the system, arguing it unfairly disadvantaged his state.

WA is guaranteed at least 70c back in every dollar of GST it raises for the commonwealth in a 2018 deal brokered by Mr McGowan and then treasurer Scott Morrison. The floor has pumped billions of extra dollars into WA’s coffers in recent years, at the same time as the state has been collecting more than $10bn a year in mining royalties.

It has made WA the only government in the world to record operating budget surpluses.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 6:28 pm

OK.
Relax everybody.
The menulog guy just arrived with another Humble Pie.
Plenty for everyone.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 6:32 pm

Here’s the story we heard on the radio. The reporting of it makes me sick. Everywhere there are stories about ‘how to cope’ with economic criss but never a story asking why is this necessary in the first place (except to blame Russian gas policies for it). Plenty of shale-oil gas in Britain btw, and the North Sea is not without some to offer still either.

Yesterday at the Anchorite’s Cave (google Anchor Church) from the interior was a view across a now tributary of the River Trent (once the main route of it) over some fields to the five large towers of a coal-fired electricity plant, either defunct (no smoke) or soon-to-be-defunct. Particulate pollution from these is hardly a problem in windy Britain, and they can be made High Energy Low Emission anyway for CO2. But Britain’s plentiful coal is so demonised it isn’t funny. Great humming bird-killing windmills now spread visual pollution readily across much of the countryside, far more than the power stations ever did and some of them are already looking rusty. Replacing these every 20 years is not going to be financially cheap, nor CO2 cheap, if that’s the accounting equation. Don’t they need oil or some lubricant to keep on turning anyway? I ask Hairy.

Britain at least has some nuclear energy and looks like getting more. Without that they would be dead.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 25, 2022 6:33 pm

Britt Ekland was a smashing bit of crumpet.

Meh, I’ve had better.

She used to ring me up and start begging for one more evening of unbridled passion., i no longer answer her calls.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 6:33 pm

I was a booth worker in a State election a long time ago, when some idiot Greenie thought I wanted to hear about Fair Twade and nO lOgO!!1

We counted by preferences and it was done before 10PM. The other booths were in and we knew who won.

Something is afoot:

Even greater levels of incompetents.
Even greater levels of incompetence.
Even greater levels of cheating.
Even greater levels of copium and narrative spinning.
Even greater levels of post COVID public serpent laziness.
Even greater levels of fear that postal and absentee ballots may wreck the red-green sunshine and lollypops – hence hesitant counting.
Even greater levels of BS from shill scrutineers.

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 6:33 pm

I do not believe for one minute any state in the US bans the removal of ectopic pregnancies that inevitably would kill the mother.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 6:34 pm

McGowan:

WA last year considered making a bid for the Games.

You howled like someone cut your leg off when an external administrative body (Cricket Australia) refused to give you a five day Test match because of your fucked-up restrictions, and then demanded the entire Ashes series be re-arranged for you.

Now you’re pretending you were a realistic chance for the Commonwealth Games. The only event worth seeing would have been the pole vault (over your border).

Fuck off.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 6:34 pm

So as you took the jab to save your jobs, you’ve actually made yourselves less employable, by constantly catching colds you call covid, and have to hide at home.

Fuckwits all.

You aren’t going to take that are you, Matrix?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 6:38 pm

She used to ring me up and start begging for one more evening of unbridled passion …

Obviously the nights I knocked her back.

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 6:39 pm

This will be here shortly, under the Albanese government….frightening…..

Racialism, decolonisation and the revolution in NZ education

New Zealand’s constitution is currently undergoing a major heart and lung transplant via co-governance arrangements between M?ori corporate tribes and the government.

It beggars belief that one of the modern world’s first democracies — founded in the fledgling 1852 Constitution Act — is descending into ethno-nationalism but the Labour Government is determined to embed racialised policies across a swathe of the nation’s laws and institutions, and not least in education.

Led by radical intellectuals of the corporate tribes and enabled by social justice warriors armed with an unassailable moral righteousness, New Zealand’s entire education system is rapidly being revolutionised.

Proposals in a recent government Green Paper for a Treaty of Waitangi-led science and research system include recognising m?tauranga M?ori (traditional knowledge) as equivalent to science.

The universities too are indigenising. According to the University of Auckland’s Pro-Vice Chancellor (M?ori), this means “finding ways where M?ori knowledge, ways of being, thinking and doing can thrive”.

Proposals to transform the university curriculum and teaching by inserting m?tauranga M?ori and kinship-based teaching and learning practices are now in the consultation phase.

The revolution does not stop there. The entire school sector is to be “decolonised”. The Ministry of Education’s ‘Te Hurihanganui A Blueprint for Transformative Systems Shift’ will include recognising “white privilege” and understanding racism in schools while the Ministry’s Curriculum Refresh will place ‘knowledge derived from Te Ao M?ori (the M?ori world)’ in the curriculum.

These initiatives, targeted at all levels of the education system will provide opportunities for an expansion of the cadre of decolonisers as ‘M?ori exercise authority and agency over their m?tauranga, tikanga (customs) and taonga (treasures)’.

Four strategies will ensure the revolution succeeds:

First, the opposition is being positioned as racist and reactionary, effectively silencing debate and creating self-censorship.

Second, government servants are required to accept the revisionist notion that the Treaty of Waitangi is a ‘partnership’ between two co-governing entities. Reprogramming services by government-paid consultants are on hand to encourage appropriate attitudes — signalled most obviously by insisting on using the correct language.

Third, the abandonment of universalism by the well-educated liberal-left who inhabit elevated positions in government and the caring professions will remove democracy’s very foundation. This is the principle of a shared universal humanity with the individual as the political category. It is the final point in the four decades convergence of postmodern relativism and identity politics.

The fourth strategy will be the clincher. It is the use of intellectual relativism to destroy the separation of science and culture that characterises the modern world.

Traditional cultural knowledge, including m?tauranga M?ori, employs supernatural explanations for natural and social phenomena. It also includes practical knowledge (proto-science or prescientific), acquired from observation, experience, and trial and error.

Such traditional knowledge has provided ways for humans to live successfully in their environment. Sometimes this has occurred in highly sophisticated ways, such as ocean navigation by the stars and currents, while efficacious medicines from plants may have helped to advance scientific or technological knowledge. Consequently, the role of traditional knowledge in humanity’s history justifies a place somewhere in the educational curriculum. But it is not science. It does not explain why such phenomena occur — just that they do.

Science provides naturalistic explanations for physical and social phenomena in the discovery of empirical, universal truths. It proceeds by conjecture and refutation. It requires doubt, challenge and critique, forever truth-seeking but with truth never fully settled.

Science’s naturalism and its self-criticism are anathema to the science-culture equivalence claim. A fundamental principle of science is that no knowledge is protected from criticism yet the Green Paper refers to protecting m?tauranga M?ori. Knowledge that requires protection is belief, not science. Knowledge authorised by culture is ideology, not science.

Furthermore, m?tauranga M?ori’s inclusion in science throughout New Zealand’s education system will place research under cultural authority. Alarmingly, that authority is to be wielded by evangelical commissars who cannot be questioned.

The outrage encountered by those foolish or brave enough to mount a defence of science shows how important science-culture co-equivalence is to the overall decolonisation strategy.

Decolonisers will not, indeed cannot, tolerate its rejection. To do so would expose the fundamental premise of a racial ideology which claims that there is no universal human being and no universal science.

bespoke
bespoke
May 25, 2022 6:42 pm

No boomer sex fantasy’s please. My dinner is about to be served.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 6:44 pm

There’s a video at the end of that link I put up which purports to ‘explain’ these rises.

Look at it for a laugh. And then weep. How to be sold a pup in the most reasonable of tones.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 25, 2022 6:44 pm

How many people are directly employed in Meat Processing?

Well, the correct answer is “none, if there aren’t any customers willing to buy the product”.

Well, there’s ringers, truckdrivers, Slaughtermen, Gutters, labourers, a couple of good for nothing lazy Muslims, boners [heh], packers, fitters, electricians, boiler attendants, Fellmongrels, more truckdrivers, cold store workers, Shop butchers and apprentices, cashiers, wharf labourers, merchant seamen, salesmen, i’ve probably missed a fair few, but you get the general idea …

Sadly, not if there’s not going to be a single processed carcass purchased by the supposed customers.
The meat processing industry exists and supplies the domestic market. What makes you think they wouldn’t export as well if they could? (Or “aren’t exporting to the extent they can”?) It’s been explained time and time again why the live export markets simply won’t buy Australian processed meat. It’s stupid to pretend that there can be real jobs serving nothing to nobody.

miltonf
miltonf
May 25, 2022 6:44 pm

The universities too are indigenising. According to the University of Auckland’s Pro-Vice Chancellor (M?ori), this means “finding ways where M?ori knowledge, ways of being, thinking and doing can thrive”.

why have Unis at all? They’re a European concept and therefore reek of colonialism. I’m sure other sinecures could be found for the Marxist dons.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 6:47 pm

bespokesays:

May 25, 2022 at 6:42 pm

No boomer sex fantasy’s please. 

Mine was a report, not a fantasy.

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 6:48 pm

Another day, another internet freak. Via David Thompson and Libs of Tip Tok, some crazy eyed woman explains the nature of her polycule. That is, a portmanteau of polyamorous and molecule. She has pins on a board joined up with yarn to help explain the complexities of it all.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 25, 2022 6:50 pm

A Trannie just killed 18 kids and 3 teachers in Texas?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 25, 2022 6:50 pm

Obviously the nights I knocked her back.

This makes you eligible for membership of the “Sexual Tyrannosaurus Club”.

We should talk

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 25, 2022 6:51 pm

A Trannie just killed 18 kids and 3 teachers in Texas?

A mentally ill cock in a frock committed murder – FTFY

miltonf
miltonf
May 25, 2022 6:52 pm

I still don’t understand the attraction of Marx- a spiteful man full of hate and advocating elimination of the middle class.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 6:52 pm

Another day, another internet freak. Via David Thompson and Libs of Tip Tok, some crazy eyed woman explains the nature of her polycule. That is, a portmanteau of polyamorous and molecule. She has pins on a board joined up with yarn to help explain the complexities of it all.

just another day in sodom & gomorrah

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 6:52 pm

This makes you eligible for membership of the “Sexual Tyrannosaurus Club”.

What do you mean “eligible”?
I’m Vice President.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 25, 2022 6:53 pm

The meat processing industry exists and supplies the domestic market. What makes you think they wouldn’t export as well if they could?

LOL
You don’t know anything about the meat industry in Australia, do you.

Winston Smith
May 25, 2022 6:57 pm

Zipster:

Unprecedented evidence from internal police networks in China’s Xinjiang region proves prison-like nature of re-education camps, shows top Chinese leaders’ direct involvement in the mass internment campaign.

I’m going to cop a bit for this, but it needs to be said:
Perhaps if the Islamics hadn’t spent the last 1300 years slaughtering innocent Christians, they might get a bit more sympathy from the West.
Crying “Help! Help! I’m being repressed” while at the same time relentlessly working toward building nukes to murder people they don’t like, seems a little hypocritical.
Another Baddies Vs Baddies conflict.
Not my problem.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 25, 2022 6:58 pm

LOL
You don’t know anything about the meat industry in Australia, do you.

English translation: Ed’s once again beclowned himself with fact-free and logic-free dogmatism, so can do nothing but sneer to try to pretend he’s got some kind of argument.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 25, 2022 7:00 pm

Dot at 6:33 pm – I don’t think in person votes on the day are the issue. Pre poll and postal votes are being used in never before numbers. I don’t believe they even open the postal votes until the booths close at 6:00pm to avoid influencing things.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 25, 2022 7:00 pm

What do you mean “eligible”?
I’m Vice President.

You may Kow Tow before the National President and Life Member in good standing.

I don’t mind, i’m a people person.

No Homers please.

cohenite
May 25, 2022 7:02 pm

Get Carter has a restoration done and re-release, looks pretty damn good for its age.

https://youtu.be/0NtstlDW0Zo

A truly great movie. The Sly Stone version in 2000 is a bad comedy by comparison.

bespoke
bespoke
May 25, 2022 7:02 pm

Crying “Help! Help! I’m being repressed” while at the same time relentlessly working toward building nukes to murder people they don’t like, seems a little hypocritical.

Get some sleep , that was just silly.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 25, 2022 7:03 pm

English translation: Ed’s once again beclowned himself with fact-free and logic-free dogmatism, so can do nothing but sneer to try to pretend he’s got some kind of argument.

Has this happened before?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 7:06 pm

dover0beachsays:

May 25, 2022 at 6:59 pm

Why do we allow people to submit a postal vote up to 2 weeks after the election?

Is it “submit” or “received”.
Either way it is ridiculous.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 7:07 pm

IMO no man has the moral authority to demand a woman carry a pregnancy that she does not want. It is her body, her choice.

the cognitive dissonance in this one rings out loud enough to hear a block away.

first he tells us guns must be banned because they kill, then tells us that wyminsis must be allowed to kill because they is wyminsis

clearly mutley bends over for the wyminsis

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 7:07 pm

Has this happened before?

Only twice since afternoon tea.
I’m sending him two big slices of Humble Pie now.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 25, 2022 7:08 pm

Another Baddies Vs Baddies conflict.
Muslim Uighers vs Chicom thugs in police uniforms. Hard to know who to support. Maybe neither.

Winston Smith
May 25, 2022 7:09 pm

Bespoke:

Crying “Help! Help! I’m being repressed” while at the same time relentlessly working toward building nukes to murder people they don’t like, seems a little hypocritical.

Get some sleep , that was just silly.

It seems quite logical to me, Bespoke.
Can you point out the flaw in my argument?

Zipster
May 25, 2022 7:10 pm

A Trannie just killed 18 kids and 3 teachers in Texas?

nah just a post late term mass abortion

bespoke
bespoke
May 25, 2022 7:12 pm

They aren’t responsible for eny of that, Winston.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 25, 2022 7:12 pm

Why do we allow people to submit a postal vote up to 2 weeks after the election?

My understanding it has to be postmarked before the close of polls. In theory, it could be posted in time in Kununurra for an electorate in rural Victoriastan. It was the same as the waiting period for cheque clearance. Many of the rules predate the Internet and could be changed if required.

At least the AEC haven’t lost any votes off the back of a truck this time. Or didn’t need to.

Roger
Roger
May 25, 2022 7:15 pm

Another Baddies Vs Baddies conflict.

Just like Liberal vs. Labor then.

But seriously, the Iranians are quite happy with Chinese persecution of Uighurs as the latter are Sunni.

It’s a complicated world out there.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 7:15 pm

politico recently reported that the Sixteen Thirty Fund, the leading dark money machine of the Left, had pumped $410 million into Dem 2020 efforts to defeat Trump and Republicans.
The Sixteen Thirty Fund had raised a record $390 million that year and half the money came from just 4 donors. While the names of the donors are secret, the article did note the names of three major known STF backers: Pierre Omidyar, Hansjörg Wyss, and George Soros.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 25, 2022 7:16 pm

Ricky Gervais latest comedy special up on Netflix and heads already exploding (see Daily Mail).

Money well spent by Netflix as far as I am concerned. Not quite finished it yet but rate him better than Dave Chappelle.

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 7:17 pm

clearly mutley bends over for the wyminsis

The mechanics of that would be difficult.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 25, 2022 7:20 pm

Daily Mail

Cheery new government sex ads reveal what Aussies need to know about new ‘affirmative consent’ laws: ‘That’s how you do it!’

New government campaign demonstrates people can ask for sexual consent
Comes just days before new affirmative consent laws are introduced in NSW
Laws require each party to say or do something to communicate their consent
The short videos will target 16-24-year-olds on social media and dating apps

calli
calli
May 25, 2022 7:20 pm

Trivia.

Longreach streets are all named after birds.

Centrelink is on Galah Street.

MatrixTransform
May 25, 2022 7:21 pm

You aren’t going to take that are you, Matrix?

occasionally you have gem
a joke or something useful

mostly though, you occupy about the same space as say mUnty or Ed Case

try not to shit-talk too much
people notice these things

Winston Smith
May 25, 2022 7:23 pm

Bespoke:

They aren’t responsible for eny of that, Winston.

I’m speaking of their religion vs ours. Islam vs Christianity.
If the Uighur Muslims read and obey the the Koran, then they must commit to Jihad against any unbeliever.
They may not do it today, but they must do it when they get the opportunity.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 25, 2022 7:24 pm

https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionPage-27966-156.htm, no booth tallies, yet the AEC is saying Trevor Evans is 957 votes ahead here.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 7:25 pm

Comes just days before new affirmative consent laws are introduced in NSW

…and I expect a lot less after that.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 25, 2022 7:25 pm

Eyrie says:
May 25, 2022 at 7:08 pm
Another Baddies Vs Baddies conflict.
Muslim Uighers vs Chicom thugs in police uniforms. Hard to know who to support. Maybe neither.

Andrews, McGowan and Twiggy’s best mates. Just misunderstood.

Winston Smith
May 25, 2022 7:26 pm

Calli:

Longreach streets are all named after birds.
Centrelink is on Galah Street.

All Barcaldine streets are named after trees.
Not very imaginative, but there you are.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 7:26 pm

The mechanics of that would be difficult.

it’s called the gillardian strap on

chook
chook
May 25, 2022 7:28 pm

Preventing unwanted pregnancy should be the priority. For a start women can just say no.

Pre-start, a man can just jerk off.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 25, 2022 7:30 pm

Speculation mounts over appointment of Federal agriculture portfolio
Adam Poulsen
Countryman
Tue, 24 May 2022 4:30PM
Adam Poulsen

Farmers will have to wait another week to find out who the new Federal agriculture minister will be, as speculation mounts over who will claim the portfolio vacated by David Littleproud.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has remained tight-lipped on who will take on the role after Labor toppled the Liberal-National Coalition at Saturday’s Federal election.

Mr Albanese was sworn in on Monday along with Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles, Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong, Treasurer Jim Chalmers and Finance Minister Katy Gallagher.

But the remainder of the Cabinet won’t be sworn in until June 1, a Labor spokeswoman confirmed, after the assignment of portfolios is determined by the caucus.

Meanwhile, rumours are circulating that the agriculture portfolio could go to anyone, from former opposition leader Bill Shorten to WA Senator Glenn Sterle.

Mr Sterle’s credentials include a stint as chair of the Senate Standing Committee on Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport from 2013 to 2016.

Another possible contender is Victorian Senator Raff Ciccone, a former member of the Joint Standing Committee on Migration which reported on the working holiday visa program.

It remains unclear whether Julie Collins — who failed to impress farmers as shadow agriculture minister — will hold on to the role she took over from the now retired Joel Fitzgibbon.

Ms Collins easily maintained the Tasmanian seat of Franklin despite a rocky campaign during which she refused to say whether Labor intended to ban live sheep exports, only to have the controversial policy leaked by an animal welfare group.

Bill Shorten as Minister for Agriculture should provide farmers with the best laugh they’ve had in years…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 25, 2022 7:32 pm

callisays:
May 25, 2022 at 7:20 pm
Trivia.

Longreach streets are all named after birds.

Centrelink is on Galah Street.

Do walk on 747 wing and attend School of the Air, besides Stockman’s Hall of Fame

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 25, 2022 7:33 pm

Bill Shorten as Minister for Agriculture should provide farmers with the best laugh they’ve had in years…

Hard to see them topping Alannah MacTiernan.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 25, 2022 7:34 pm

Hard to see them topping Alannah MacTiernan.

Tony Burke did his best..

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 7:35 pm

Half of Midway Point has streets that are named after countries. Someone had an atlas and a deadline to meet probably.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 25, 2022 7:37 pm

it’s called the gillardian strap on

Now THAT would require affirmative consent.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 7:38 pm

We don’t have a right to demand that the parents of a child not abandon it in the wilderness if it is their ‘choice’?

You seem unable to make an argument without covering it with straw, db. Try it again without logical fallacies.

Yes there is, it’s the same morality which defends the innocent life of the child from being deliberately being destroyed in utero. As to situations where the mother’s life is in danger, doctors are entitled to do everything they can to preserve the life of the mother in keeping with the principle of double effect. This means they can undertake any procedure whose purpose is to the preserve the life of the mother even if a known side-effect of this procedure endangers the life of the child in utero.

Ah, but this is untrue. Several laws, including one in Texas, ban the only drugs that can treat ectopic pregnancies. And they’re just getting started.

Women will die due to these laws, as they prevent doctors from providing the best care. This is the legacy of repealing Roe v Wade. Many “conservatives” will cheer, as they hate women.

shatterzzz
May 25, 2022 7:38 pm

Centrelink is on Galah Street.
Initiative something CentreLink has lacked ! .. whoever in the Dept. decided to put it there should be promoted .. LOL!

shatterzzz
May 25, 2022 7:40 pm

Bill Shorten as Minister for Agriculture should provide farmers with the best laugh they’ve had in years…
I’ll see yer “Bill” and raise ya the “turtle” … LOL!

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 7:40 pm

Many “conservatives” will cheer, as they hate women.

Fuck off Monty.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 7:41 pm

H B Bearsays:

May 25, 2022 at 7:12 pm

Why do we allow people to submit a postal vote up to 2 weeks after the election?

My understanding it has to be postmarked before the close of polls

That was my memory too.
That it was two weeks for delivery not two weeks to cast the vote.

Roger
Roger
May 25, 2022 7:44 pm

But the remainder of the Cabinet won’t be sworn in until June 1, a Labor spokeswoman confirmed, after the assignment of portfolios is determined by the caucus.

Mr. Poulsen makes it sound so democratic.

The “caucus” – another Americanism gifted to the Labor Party by King O’Malley – is simply the Labor factions carrying out the orders of their union masters.

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 7:44 pm

“I’m speaking of their religion vs ours. Islam vs Christianity.
If the Uighur Muslims read and obey the the Koran, then they must commit to Jihad against any unbeliever.
They may not do it today, but they must do it when they get the opportunity.”

Correct. Europeans once understood this. If you talk to any Christian, Jew or other minority from the Middle East, they understand. If you talk to any Burmese person re. the Rohinga, they understand. If you talk to any Eastern European (they know their history, large swathes of Eastern Europe were under the yolk of the Ottomans for centuries), they understand. Jihad is a central tenet. It was why the Christian Serbs will never forgive NATO for its bombing back in the late 1990s, the Serbs couldn’t understand how supposedly Christian Western Europe and the USA could side with the Muslim Albanians.

Armadillo
Armadillo
May 25, 2022 7:44 pm

Tomorrow we go to the Hall of Fame

Keep an eye out for a bloke with a bronze bust, Calli. He might have known a little bit about the live export market.

(insert smiley face)

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 7:49 pm

Cassie, by the same token it would be hard to find anyone that is particularly fond of the Chinese.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 25, 2022 7:51 pm

Poor old shiteating m0nty, once again beclowning himself, gullibly falling for irrational “progressive” hysteria.

Here’s m0nty:
Ah, but this is untrue. Several laws, including one in Texas, ban the only drugs that can treat ectopic pregnancies.

Here’s from m0nty’s link:
One Texas law passed last year lists several medications as abortion-inducing drugs and largely bars their use for abortion after the seventh week of pregnancy. But two of those drugs, misoprostol and mifepristone, are the only drugs recommended in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists guidelines for treating a patient after an early pregnancy loss.

How does a law against abortion have anything to do with treatment “after an early pregnancy loss”? Poor old “progressives”. Poor old gullible m0nty. It’s a “she turned me into a newt” moment.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 7:51 pm

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/872/billtext/pdf/SB00004F.pdf

monty is overreacting. It doesn’t ban off label abortion inducing drugs, and the three commonly used ones (he mentions two) can be used to save a mother’s life.

Only a doctor can administer and they need to document what they are doing.

9 pages, ASCII text, easy to read.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 25, 2022 7:54 pm

Dover – any restrictions on who can witness them then?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 7:55 pm

Bill Shorten as Minister for Agriculture should provide farmers with the best laugh they’ve had in years…

Pretty hard to plot an Ides of March knifing when you are at dairy cow mastitis conferences in Gippsland or WA wheat-belt field days in between answering 1,000 emails a day from Animals Australia Karens.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 7:56 pm

Women will die due to these laws, as they prevent doctors from providing the best care. This is the legacy of repealing Roe v Wade. Many “conservatives” will cheer, as they hate women.

Disgusting, hate filled nonsense.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 25, 2022 7:56 pm

Monty…. Being a dishonest turd…. on THIS blog?
How many tine is that today?

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 25, 2022 7:58 pm

the Serbs couldn’t understand how supposedly Christian Western Europe and the USA could side with the Muslim Albanians.
Hillary got Bill to bomb the wrong side.

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 8:04 pm

IT’S OFFICIAL: Keanu Reeves hailed one of world’s nicest men in Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People of 2022

Ms Heard is free at the moment and might be able to provide a rigorous stress test of those claims given about twelve months worth of direct access.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 25, 2022 8:04 pm

Bear, here:

So basically anyone. Another AEC leap of faith.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 8:05 pm

This is the legacy of repealing Roe v Wade. Many “conservatives” will cheer, as they hate women.

unlike marxists who realy realy love wyminsis, and little girls and goats

miltonf
miltonf
May 25, 2022 8:06 pm

Many “conservatives” will cheer, as they hate women.

Marxist identity politics- implies wimmin are somehow victims instead of partners/equals of men and that women can’t be conservative. A bit like the disgusting old slag Glenda Slagson who said Mrs Thatcher wasn’t a woman by her standards.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 8:06 pm

the (SOME) Serbs couldn’t understand how supposedly Christian Western Europe and the USA could side with the Muslim Albanians.

They also thought Milo did nothing wrong.

bespoke
bespoke
May 25, 2022 8:07 pm

So the pro argument is some historical justification. Nothing to do with what the Uighurs have done.

Same old rubbish that’s gone since year dot.

Another gutbucket bolero
Another gutbucket bolero
May 25, 2022 8:08 pm

Get Carter.
Ta, cohenite. Will check it out.

local oaf
May 25, 2022 8:10 pm

Had a closer look. Has to be signed and witnessed by election day. Of course, no one has ever backdated a signature. Nothing about postmarked.

Postals are supposed to be received by about June 3rd I think.

I posted mine last Thursday and AEC emailed today to say they got it. How they would know who my witness is beats me. Just an indecipherable scrawl of a signature and there’s nowhere to even write down their full name or address.
I could easily be my own witness, in fact our signatures look similar and I wonder if some eagle eyed AEC tool will quiz it.

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 8:11 pm

“They also thought Milo did nothing wrong.”

Milo Yiannopoulos?

cohenite
May 25, 2022 8:11 pm

I must say the cars they wrecked in The Italian Job, in today’s values, would just about pay off Australia’s national debt: E-Types, Alphas, Mini Coopers, a couple of Aston Martins and a Lamborghini Miura.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 8:13 pm

Milo Yiannopoulos?

Milo Kerrigan.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 8:13 pm

I remember all sorts of threads on the old Cat, slashing through the weeds of the abortion issue for pages and pages. It got so bad that specific threads had to be created to continue the debate, as it was dominating the OTs too much. Most of the debate surrounded exactly where the edge was going to be for edge cases. Pretty much everybody agreed that rape and incest were going to be exempt from pro-choice laws, except for the most rabid posters, and everyone agreed that ectopic pregnancies would be allowed to be terminated.

And yet… the ever-growing crop of new post-Roe state laws show that the edge in practice is not going to be at rape or incest at all. Those two cases will be prevented from abortions in many red states from day 1 of Roe being overturned. The edge is actually cases where the death of the mother is at stake. Multiple state laws have been posited where doctors are prevented from treating ectopic pregnancies by banning the drugs used to treat them. When called on it, the legislators walk it back.

Later they will no doubt try again, more subtly, in the hope they can pass something that will kill many women without attracting the media eye. Every time they fail, they get closer to succeeding. That’s how it worked for Obamacare sabotage laws, that’s how it worked for vote suppression and gerrymandering… it’s what red state legislators do. They will pass whatever they can get away with, because they are immune from electoral backlash due to gerrymanders they passed.

cohenite
May 25, 2022 8:15 pm

And yet… the ever-growing crop of new post-Roe state laws show that the edge in practice is not going to be at rape or incest at all.

That’s a lie.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 8:16 pm

Speaking of ‘walking it back’, there’s been a drift from:

many States have laws

To:

Multiple state laws have been posited where

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 8:19 pm

“Milo Kerrigan.”

Who?

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:19 pm

Your claim re ectopic pregnancy is rubbish Monty and you know it.
The Catholic position on double effect is well known. Who else in this evil woman hating conservative cabal do you think is out to kill women?
(Other than abortion doctors like Gosnells)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 8:20 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

May 25, 2022 at 8:19 pm

“Milo Kerrigan.”

Who?

What!?!
Milo.
Milo Kerrigan.

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:21 pm

Your trolling here is getting worse and worse.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 8:21 pm

Is Milo related to Darryl?

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 8:21 pm

cohenitesays:
May 25, 2022 at 8:15 pm
And yet… the ever-growing crop of new post-Roe state laws show that the edge in practice is not going to be at rape or incest at all.

That’s a lie.

Yes it is.

Nine pages, easy to read 1980s computer text, double spaced.

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/872/billtext/pdf/SB00004F.pdf

This is the law referenced by a news article which monty referenced at 7:38 PM.

The article he referenced was a load of cobblers and they didn’t even bother to read the legislation they were whining about.

What’s the complaint? You can’t get your ectopic pregnancy terminated at Planned Parenthood?

My friend gave birth to twins after a life threatening ectopic pregnancy (life threatening to all three persons). I think her husband (like a brother to me) will agree that she was given the best treatment, which isn’t actually inducing an abortion without considering other medical intervention.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 25, 2022 8:22 pm

Cohenite
I’m sure Monty will back that assertion of fact up with the actual legislation.
Not just an opinion piece from someone calling themselves Ofjohn posting at Mary Stopes. ( the racist ugeneicist)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 8:22 pm

Just been reading the Oz. OMG, what’s wrong with the world? I idly ask my love.

Stupid, ignorant people who think they are superior, he replies promptly.

Can’t argue with that, so end of that conversation. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 8:23 pm

“Milo Kerrigan.”

Who?

Oo-er. Forget I said anything.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 25, 2022 8:24 pm

Daily Mail. People who live in glass houses. Tanya…..

Tanya Plibersek launches jaw-dropping ‘Voldemort’ attack on likely new Liberal leader Peter Dutton saying ‘a lot of children who watched Harry Potter will be frightened’ – but would she make such superficial comments about a woman?

Attack comes as the Liberal Party is about to name Mr Dutton as its new leader
Radio host shocked at Ms Plibersek’s words – ‘are you saying he looks strange?’
Other Labor MPs, such as premiers of WA and Victoria, also attacked Mr Dutton
Sky News commentator Andrew Bolt accuses Ms Plibersek of being ‘nasty’

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 8:25 pm

ps My best wishes to Zulu and to RickW, it is terrible when your love in life’s journey is not well.
I hope the news is good and continues to be so; if not so good, then remember that love conquers all.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 8:27 pm

but would she make such superficial comments about a woman?

Untrowel that inch and a half of cake frosting off your face, Plibersek, and remind people what a pie dropped in a bucket of gravel looks like.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 8:27 pm

‘a lot of children who watched Harry Potter will be frightened’

The author of the Harry Potter books has a lot more reason to be frightened of Plibersek, who belongs to the woke cancellers of this world.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 8:28 pm

This has opened the door for Freydenberg. I expect a tweet, thusly:

‘Why do female Labor MPs wear makeup and perfume? Because they’re fuckin’ dog ugly, and they stink.’

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:30 pm

Are you sure it was ectopic dot?
It can’t have been a tubal pregnancy, they simply aren’t viable.
Perhaps you mean placenta previa?

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 8:34 pm

Are you sure it was ectopic dot?

Yes.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 8:34 pm

Deves is the only female pollie worth a crack on either team. Perhaps Flint if she’s still around, but a distant second.

You wouldn’t cross the road for any of the rest of them if they were holding a two litre bottle of Turkey 101 in each hand.

Plibersek, of all people. A solid three, less with the volume on.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 25, 2022 8:34 pm

Covid-fanciers are going on about sublineages here too.

We haven’t given Covid a second thought since we’ve been here.
They are trying talk up Monkey Pox but nobody’s buying that either.
So far we’ve both been extremely well. Lucky for two oldies, one of them v old, i.e. me.
Years of ballet training are standing me in good stead; I do miss my regular limbering up classes.
We have been trooping over hilly fields like youngsters, up and down a myriad of staircases too.
Life seems very normal, noone wearing masks anywhere, even on the Tube in London.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 25, 2022 8:37 pm

ps My best wishes to Zulu and to RickW

Thank you, LizzieB – the doctor says Mme Zulu is doing well.

rosie
rosie
May 25, 2022 8:38 pm

But not located in a fallopian tube?

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 8:38 pm

Nicole Flint is the only current/former MP I think I would take to dinner and I’d let her court me.

Sorry ladies. Your choices on Tinder or getting a real date where you have less chance of being used are going to be a lot less after these absurd affirmative consent laws are in force in NSW.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 8:39 pm

Now THAT would require affirmative consent.

well monty’s told us he’s equal to a woman

Cassie of Sydney
May 25, 2022 8:40 pm

“The author of the Harry Potter books has a lot more reason to be frightened of Plibersek, who belongs to the woke cancellers of this world.”

Quite so Lizzie.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 8:41 pm

rosiesays:
May 25, 2022 at 8:38 pm
But not located in a fallopian tube?

I am not sure and I won’t ask.

Please just take my word for it that it was an ectopic pregnancy (of twins). She works in a hospital in a professional health field, her mother in law is a nurse with postgraduate degrees, nor I will not correct the attending obstetrician 11 years after the fact.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 8:48 pm

Please just take my word for it that it was an ectopic pregnancy (of twins).

Well then, they kept the world’s first ever ectopic pregnancy birth quiet. Or Dot is wrong, again.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 25, 2022 8:56 pm

Knuckles most unfair to call labor women mp’s dog ugly. My dog is beautiful and all the others not quite but comparing them to labors finest? Next you’ll be comparing the greens to …… lets not go there I want to sleep tonight.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 9:01 pm

The author of the Harry Potter books has a lot more reason to be frightened of Plibersek, who belongs to the woke cancellers of this world

Just watched Ricky Gervais’ new show on Stanflix.
Whoaaaa!
He does not miss.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
May 25, 2022 9:04 pm

Who to believe?

1) M0nty Well then, they kept the world’s first ever ectopic pregnancy birth quiet
2) Wikipedia There have been cases where ectopic pregnancy lasted many months and ended in a live baby delivered by laparotomy. (+ 3 named women)

Tough call.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 9:09 pm

Actually monty ectopic pregancy almost to term is possible, please note the twins were premature (WHY WERE THEY PREMATURE, MONTY?)* and may have been one of the more viable situations notafan/rosie describes. Split hairs if you like, I am not asking my friends about this nor if there was surgery involved.

*They didn’t go to term, hence they were premature.

Yes, this ruined a day of golf. The pregnancy was not planned that early.

Trying to be the smartest guy in the room has simply made a dishonest fool of you again. Here is a review of the literature three years before my friends became parents.

To with:

Well then, they kept the world’s first ever ectopic pregnancy birth quiet. Or Dot is wrong, again.

Full-Term Abdominal Pregnancy: A Case Report and Review of the Literature
Zhang J. · Li F. · Sheng Q.
Author affiliations

Keywords: Abdominal pregnancy, full-termSubtotal abdominal hysterectomy

Gynecol Obstet Invest 2008;65:139–141

*Abdominal pregnancy is a rare, life-threatening condition. Case: A 30-year-old pregnant, gravida 3, para 1, was presented to hospital at 38 weeks gestation. She suffered from abdominal pain at 16 weeks gestation. At admission, obstetrical examination and transabdominal ultrasonography revealed that it was uterine pregnancy with a single living fetus and oligohydramnios. The diagnosis of abdominal pregnancy was made till intrasurgical operation. An amniotomy was performed and a normal neonatal female was extracted as breech.*

Oh no monty. You’re wrong, again.

Now, how does any of this justify lying about the unavailability of abortefactants being administered by doctors in Texas???

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 9:10 pm

To wit, OR, to whit;

etc.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 25, 2022 9:10 pm

Monty, stating a fact that isn’t?
On THIS blog?
Inconceivable!!!!

Monty at least google your next hot take.
Rakemeister grand flash is in the house

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 9:10 pm

A cautionary tale in the Hun about picking your mark and overconfidence.

A 24 year old bloke crashed eight weddings in Melbourne – mingling with guests, drinking free piss while stealing about $16K worth of gifts and cash in the process.

What happened at the average skip wedding:

Shocked Bride Kellee Pace told Nine News the man allegedly stole thousands of dollars from the wishing well of her Brunswick wedding and even wrote in the guest book.

“It was the best wedding he’d apparently ever attended and he was feeling awesome and lucky on the night, three quarters of our wishing well was missing,” she said.

“We definitely felt really violated, we were mingling with people and he was downstairs drinking in the bar and we had no idea he was even there.”

What happened at a different sort of wedding:

Wedding planner Jasmine Arapovic spotted the man at her sister-in-law’s “heavy Macedonian” wedding. “He definitely didn’t blend in,” she said.

“My dad then put him in a bit of a headlock to make sure he didn’t try and escape before I could have a chat with the venue manager to get them to put him in a room.”

The cops were called. Later, which is also excellent.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 9:16 pm

Knuckles most unfair to call labor women mp’s dog ugly

The inter-ma-net tells me that the generally accepted ugliest dog breed is the Chinese Crested.

Next to that thing, Plibersek looks like Zuul from the original Ghostbusters.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 25, 2022 9:19 pm

Tree of lies on SBS.
As entertaining as singeing dog turds.
Pseudo intellectual wank

Armadillo
Armadillo
May 25, 2022 9:23 pm

I’m going to set Calli some homework for tomorrow’s trip. She seems like a pretty good detective, but a cryptic clue such as “look out for a bronze bust” probably won’t help. The joint is full of them.

My grandfathers brother is there, but only his head. Packet of cigarettes. Pack of cards. Barney country.

Please don’t dox me. Lol.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 25, 2022 9:25 pm

We have had Premiers of WA and VIC and now Tanya having a go at Dutton. A good sign he is going to be effective.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 9:26 pm

Funny stuff

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-02/russia-invasion-ukraine-petrol-prices-australia-carbon-emissions/100872698

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine will likely see Australian petrol prices soar — and drive down carbon emissions

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/exxon-bhp-to-spend-400m-in-bass-strait-as-gas-crunch-looms-20220317-p5a5jv.html

ExxonMobil and BHP are planning to invest $400 million to deliver more gas from their ageing Bass Strait fields, in a move that could help avert the threat of winter gas shortfalls in Australia’s south-east.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 9:30 pm

KD at 9:10.
I saw the video on the news.
I am backing any Macedonian father ‘o the bride against what I saw.
I estimate he would have been 65 kegs sopping wet, and his gait was decidedly … how can I put this … his gait was a bit … mincey.

Zipster
May 25, 2022 9:31 pm

ATAGI expands COVID-19 booster access to allow more people to get a fourth dose

jezus H christ is this corrupt bunch of bugmen still going on about boosters

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 9:31 pm

Yep.

I still don’t know who to believe, or how the Ukraine can win.

https://www.ibtimes.com/20-top-russian-commanders-have-died-ukraine-war-report-3518069

Approximately 20 of the 166 commanders Russia deployed to the frontline at the start of the war have died as of mid-May, investigative outlet Proekt reported Monday. Four of the 20 who were killed were born in Ukraine, namely Nikolai Gostev of the 4th Air Force and Air Defense Army, Oleg Makovetsky of the 6th Air Force Army from the Leningrad Oblast, Lt. Gen. Mikhail Zusko of the 58th Combined Arms Army and Col. Vadim Pankov of the 45th separate Special Forces Brigade of the Russian Army.

The publication did not include the names of other commanders who were killed in the war. However, reporters for the publication noted that Russia’s brigade, division and army commanders in the war were generally around the ages of 40 to 50. District commanders, meanwhile, were aged 55 on average and branch commanders were aged 60.

“These people are the pick of the modern Russian army: men (who are) at the peak of their strength, experienced and relatively well educated,” the publication said.

Proekt compiled its report using open-source materials, including reports by the media, social media posts and interviews with Russian prisoners of war. The data was then verified using other sources.

On top of the casualties amongst Russian generals, roughly 29,200 Russian soldiers have so far been killed in the Ukraine war, according to Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 9:33 pm

Dot, so your argument is that because there have been a handful of cases of abdominal pregnancies surviving in recorded history (no twins?), abortions should be banned for the 2% of all pregnancies that are ectopic. Note that most ectopic pregnancies are within the Fallopian tube and thus not viable under any circumstances.

You are misusing an anecdote as data, yet again. Your grasp of the scientific method is execrable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 9:35 pm

Zipstersays:
May 25, 2022 at 9:31 pm
ATAGI expands COVID-19 booster access to allow more people to get a fourth dose

jezus H christ is this corrupt bunch of bugmen still going on about boosters

They may as well.
No-one else is.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
May 25, 2022 9:40 pm

Monty pivots gracefully like a fully loaded road train full of medical waste driven by a subcontinental chicken delivery chap on a meth and laxative bender.
It’s not looking great for the Kindy at the bottom of the hill.

Or
Monty tries to cover up his completely wrong assertion by trying to take refuge in nit picking.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 9:43 pm

The other thing about the case you cite, Dot, is that it was a uterine pregnancy. Which means it was not ectopic. You idiot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 25, 2022 9:44 pm

You seem unable to make an argument without covering it with straw, db. Try it again without logical fallacies.

munty, after your straw man approach to US gun laws, best say nothing on the subject of strawmen and logical fallacies.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 9:52 pm

abortions should be banned for the 2% of all pregnancies that are ectopic.

No, you missed the point completely.

Automatic abortion is not “the best standard of care” in all cases as you assert.

You won’t even walk back that stupid news article. In no way did that Texan statute ban the drugs you named, as you asserted. It prescribed a method of administration. It doesn’t let people lie about having an ectopic pregnancy to get an abortion.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 25, 2022 9:56 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
May 25, 2022 at 9:35 pm
Zipstersays:
May 25, 2022 at 9:31 pm
ATAGI expands COVID-19 booster access to allow more people to get a fourth dose

jezus H christ is this corrupt bunch of bugmen still going on about boosters

They may as well.
No-one else is.

Fact check: true.

Victoria reached 90% double vaxxed for 18 & over on 25 November 2021.
The boosted rate has been inching along at about 0.1% a day for a long time now. Today the boosted rate for 16 and over was 67.3%. (Also over 5% of 12 & overs have never even got double jabbed – that may be mostly 12 to 16’s, though, so may not indicate a lot more unjabbed adults.)
No matter how one spins it, about 20% of 18 & overs got double jabbed six months or more ago and haven’t got boosted, when Maximum Leader’s minions have been saying 3 months is booster time.
And that’s all based on the government’s official figures, so isn’t likely to overestimate the no-longer-vaxx-protected demographic.
Taking into account that some large industries (e.g. health, education) have mandatory third jab requirements, there may be many others who really didn’t want the third jab.
All in all, obedience to Maximum Leader is far from universal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 9:58 pm

JC will be happy.
Atlassian share price still going South like Douglas Mawson.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 9:59 pm

monty

Ectopic means “out of place”.

Which includes ovarian pregnancy, tubal pregnancy or a full or partial abdominal pregnancy (the second of which, would be uterine).

You are a moron.

Please become fully literate. For your own sake and for our sanity & tolerance levels.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 25, 2022 10:06 pm

munty

Have you yet learned the difference between “gun culture” and “gang culcha”?

JC
JC
May 25, 2022 10:08 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
May 25, 2022 at 9:58 pm
JC will be happy.
Atlassian share price still going South like Douglas Mawson.

Nice day. Atlas Sian is down and fuckerbook lost another 8%.

I dunno if it’s true or not , a private equity dude reckons that atlassian is fucked in all sorts of ways. Their after-purchase customer service is appalling. I think those two greasy looking fuckheads aren’t going to be so wealthy as they have been.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 10:13 pm

Ectopic means “out of place”.

The place in question being the uterus. So a uterine pregnancy is not ectopic. This is not hard to understand, Dot.

JC
JC
May 25, 2022 10:16 pm

@mcannonbrookes hey dickhead. Instead of concerning yourself with thems global emissions and if AGL has the right structure, why not try and make a profit for the first time in that shithole you and the other bearded doofus are running.?

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 10:18 pm

In no way did that Texan statute ban the drugs you named, as you asserted. It prescribed a method of administration.

You of all people, Dot, should understand the chilling effect that government regulation can have. Doctors would be scared off prescribing those drugs lest they be dragged into court. That is the intention of the bill, to create an environment where doctors operate under constant threat of litigation if they dare to prioritise the health of the mother.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 25, 2022 10:18 pm

So a uterine pregnancy is not ectopic. This is not hard to understand, Dot.

This incomparable display of arrant stupidity has to be deliberate. It just has to be.

There are species of plankton with a greater understanding of this subject than mUnted. Hamsters can tap out cogent sentences in Morse code on this with their noses.

But no. The cognac communist can’t grasp it, which is frankly unsurprising but doesn’t excuse this malignant ignorance.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 10:20 pm

So monty that’s why they named their article after abdominal pregnancy (which can include uterine pregnancy as partial abdominal pregnancy) and changed their prognosis after medical imaging and whilst they were engaged in surgical intervention until the “normal neotal female” was “breeched” by amniotiany?

That makes no sense monty.

They also had it published in a medical journal.

They got published for unecessary surgery?

As it has been said before, you must endeavour to become more functionally literate.

You poor bastard.

JC
JC
May 25, 2022 10:20 pm

Anyone noticed the stock symbol for the shithole , atlassian? It’s TEAM.

FMD those two bearded idiots are wankers.

Dot
Dot
May 25, 2022 10:23 pm

Doctors would be scared off prescribing those drugs lest they be dragged into court. That is the intention of the bill, to create an environment where doctors operate under constant threat of litigation if they dare to prioritise the health of the mother.

That’s not true at all.

Read the legislation monty.

All the doctor has to do is document the ectopic pregnancy and obtain informed consent; only they can administer the drugs.

You poor dumb bastard.

Armadillo
Armadillo
May 25, 2022 10:24 pm

Never trust anyone with a beard. Ever.

They are either lazy, or they have got something to hide. Or both.

132andBush
132andBush
May 25, 2022 10:24 pm

I think what we can conclude from today is Monty is just a “clump of cells”.

Frank
Frank
May 25, 2022 10:28 pm

Read the legislation monty.

Dot, the whole game revolves around him making other people read the legislation.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 10:29 pm

So monty that’s why they named their article after abdominal pregnancy (which can include uterine pregnancy as partial abdominal pregnancy) and changed their prognosis after medical imaging and whilst they were engaged in surgical intervention until the “normal neotal female” was “breeched” by amniotiany?

Nowhere in that abstract can be found the word ectopic.

Armadillo
Armadillo
May 25, 2022 10:32 pm

Beards are the equivalent of Sheliahs with underarm hair. Except worse.

At least Shealahs have the option of throwing on a long sleeve shirt. Beards, not so much.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 10:34 pm

I dunno if it’s true or not , a private equity dude reckons that atlassian is fucked in all sorts of ways. Their after-purchase customer service is appalling. 

Someone here (I forget who) made a similar observation when I said they would have to jack up prices by 50% to break-even. He/she said they were struggling to hold existing customers at current prices due to sub-par service.
I think they are in strife.

rickw
rickw
May 25, 2022 10:36 pm

Monty has traipsed into a field of rakes again.

I think today represents a new PB for munty.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 10:37 pm

All the doctor has to do is document the ectopic pregnancy and obtain informed consent; only they can administer the drugs.

As Dot has shown, definitions can be tricky. Nature has a habit of finding new ways to bugger things up.

Apart from anything else, it adds a lot of red tape to a process that needs to be focused on the mother and baby, not the paperwork. Women will die from laws like this due to delays by jittery lawyers and hospital administrators defending their budget bottom lines.

I thought you lot hated government intervention? Ah, but not when it is oppressing people who aren’t like you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 10:37 pm

132andBushsays:

May 25, 2022 at 10:24 pm

I think what we can conclude from today is Monty is just a “clump of cells”.

I’ve got the Hoover at the ready.
Just say the word.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 25, 2022 10:41 pm

I think today represents a new PB for munty.

I find it ironic, Monty’s own blog collapsed like a house of cards, so he’s over attempting to trash this one.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 10:45 pm

JCsays:

May 25, 2022 at 10:16 pm

@mcannonbrookes hey dickhead. Instead of concerning yourself with thems global emissions and if AGL has the right structure, why not try and make a profit for the first time in that shithole you and the other bearded doofus are running.?

Some may say that is a little harsh.
I call it ‘tough love’.
You know what?
Twelve months ago his Eastern suburbs investors would have been treating him like a Messiah and cheering on his ‘vironmental activism.
Now? A few will be quietly seething and there will be mutterings behind closed doors about “eye off the ball”. However, this is Teal Land, so nothing will be said aloud in polite company.
But wait a while. If the slide continues the rumblings will start. These Eastern suburbs types love the ‘vironment, but they love their money a bit more.

Armadillo
Armadillo
May 25, 2022 10:46 pm

mOnster never had a problem killing his “Dearly Departed Doggy”. Killing babies was always the next logical progression.

Armadillo
Armadillo
May 25, 2022 10:52 pm

Kill a sheep bad. Kill a baby good.

The left are fucking insane.

rickw
rickw
May 25, 2022 10:57 pm

I’ve got the Hoover at the ready.
Just say the word.

The model with the 4” hose and a V12 Cummins power plant?

rickw
rickw
May 25, 2022 10:58 pm

mOnster never had a problem killing his “Dearly Departed Doggy”

Remind me again how munty killed his kids puppy?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 25, 2022 11:01 pm

I would have thought it was more than 20% that have not gone for the 3rd. Have spoken to several who had to be triple jabbed to keep their jobs and far from happy about it.

What surprises me is there are not more protests and push back in organisations requiring triple jabs.

If 3rd jab mandated for me I will be out in every protest I can find.

Courier Mail / News Corp now pushing the angle that Covid is 3rd highest cause of death in Oz. They just love the scare campaign. Naturally most of their scare columns don’t allow comments.

“No matter how one spins it, about 20% of 18 & overs got double jabbed six months or more ago and haven’t got boosted, when Maximum Leader’s minions have been saying 3 months”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 11:02 pm

The model with the 4” hose and a V12 Cummins power plant?

Got a macerator on the front end.
Don’t want to clog the hose with chunky bits.

rickw
rickw
May 25, 2022 11:04 pm

Apart from anything else, it adds a lot of red tape to a process that needs to be focused on the mother and baby,

You want to kill the baby.

That’s a head shot at 1000m!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 11:05 pm

I thought the Dose #3 compliance might have been lower, but I guess some of them date back six months.
I think there is a definite tail-off in the appetite for boosters.
Maybe I am just projecting my own views.

Bruce in WA
May 25, 2022 11:06 pm

Beards are the equivalent of Sheliahs with underarm hair. Except worse.

At least Shealahs have the option of throwing on a long sleeve shirt. Beards, not so much.

Had a beard for about half a century now. Shaved it off once; my then 4-y-o daughter told me to “shave it back on”!

My late Dad was in two minds about my beard:

1. “Son, why cultivate on your face that which grows naturally around your arse?”

2. “Son, anything that hides your face is a bonus.”

(No, he didn’t actually mean either of those things to be taken seriously.)

rickw
rickw
May 25, 2022 11:07 pm

Got a macerator on the front end.
Don’t want to clog the hose with chunky bits.

Nice! Munty can give a debrief on how safe, effective and humane it is when he sprays out the discharge pipe.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 25, 2022 11:08 pm

Courier Mail / News Corp now pushing the angle that Covid is 3rd highest cause of death in Oz. 

Let me guess.
They have fragmented all other causes into smaller sub-groups.
That is, we don’t have “cancer” as a single cause. We have three types of brain cancers, lung cancers, bowel, blood cancer, yada, yada.

m0nty
m0nty
May 25, 2022 11:10 pm

You want to kill the baby.

This is what I am talking about db, constant bad faith arguments. Please try to refrain.

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