Open Thread – Wed 13 July 2022
1,470 responses to “Open Thread – Wed 13 July 2022”
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I had a shock yesterday when I learnt that someone I had worked with for years, who retired at the end of last year, had died suddenly “without warning or health problems” at the age of 73.
Upon the news of the latest heart attack at work, my new boss divulged that his super fit reservist brother had a heart attack last month.
“There’s something terribly wrong…..”
The blokes and I were joking that everyone will soon need to strap on an AED when they report for their shift.
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Timothy Neilsen:
If so (and that seems perfectly likely) the abortionist stymied it by parlaying the episode into a beatup to protect the baby killing industry’s revenue stream, thus leading to the situation coming to light and the filthscum being arrested.
I’d be interested in the results of the genetic testing to see if anyone was related to anyone else. I wonder if there is a corner of a scab being lifted in kidnapped children and a pedo industry.
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We live in a time where young men and women never grow up. It’s a common phenomenon across the West. Unlike in times gone by, Western society no longer expects or demands that young males and females grow up. Nowadays they’re locked into a never-ending adolescence that often lasts until their late twenties and early thirties and even beyond that. I believe this extended adolescence encourages delinquency and irresponsibility in both males and females at an age where once they would have been married. Once upon a time, Western societies (like ALL other societies and cultures) expected certain things, primarily that young men and women got married, procreated and took on responsibilities in the home and at work. This was all part of living in a society, society gave to you, but you also gave to society and part of this was behaving in a certain way. This is how societies are strengthened and prosper. The institution of marriage is a superb vehicle to implant specific responsibilities and promote maturity in both males and females and it is why marriage has been a core institution throughout human history. Never before in human history have men and women delayed marriage like they do now and by extension these young males and females are delaying “responsibility” and “maturity”. Marriage helps to rein in anti-social behaviour. Across the West it’s now only the religious, be they religious Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus and so on who marry young. When I say “young”, I’m not talking about eighteen and nineteen, I am talking about the early twenties. Now before people attack me, I know some marriages don’t work out and I know some people have always but the institution itself provides a structure, a bedrock, a framework and a foundation for the promotion of responsibility and maturity together with a meaningful sexual relationship and the creation of future generations. Across the West these foundations have been trashed and are now lacking in the lives of many of our young, instead we have a generation who are engaged in sexual promiscuity, who are frequently suffering mental illness and emotional breakdowns, who refuse to commit in relationships, who are addicted to drugs and pornography, who think social media is the real world, who behave immaturely when they are at an age when they should be behaving responsibly and so on.
I think about these things when I see and hear young males and females go off the rails, particularly young males and the catastrophic damage that ensues from their irresponsibility and immaturity. There’s an old Jewish saying that males need marriage more than females. I suspect all cultures had similar adages but to be fair, females also need responsibility and maturity. A few years ago, a friend’s son was arrested at an anti-coal mine demonstration. He got off with a slap on the wrist (of course). This young man wasn’t eighteen at the time, he was in his late 20s and I remember being at first shocked, then angry, and then thinking how woefully immature he was. I was, quite frankly, sickened because I knew his grandfather, at twenty, had fought Nazis. I thought to myself, this is a generation we’ve created, a generation destroyed by affluence and indulgence. They have zero responsibility and zero maturity.
I write this because I’ve been pondering the news today that Samuel Davidson’s sentence has been reduced, and I’ve been thinking about how his grotesque irresponsibility and immaturity caused him to get into a car when he was plastered with high levels of alcohol and drugs and then proceeded to mow down and kill four children and cause permanent brain damage to another child. Remember that Davidson, when he killed those children in early 2020, was not an adolescent at the time, he was in his late 20s, and yet he was still behaving like an adolescent. He had led a life of irresponsibility and immaturity and the catastrophic result, his criminal negligence on that awful Saturday afternoon in 2020 deprived four young innocent children of their lives. Samuel Davidson never grew up and because of his irresponsible and immature actions, he denied four little children the chance to ever grow up.
Anyway, just my thoughts, please feel free to disagree.
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The blokes and I were joking that everyone will soon need to strap on an AED when they report for their shift.
I’m working on another Sydney road tunnel at the moment.
We’re having a really bad flu season this year, everyone sick longer than usual.Myself and a few close allies, strangely unaffected…
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If the legislators wanted to carve out an exception for rape, the bill would have had an exception for rape. It did not.
If the legislators wanted to carve out an exception for minors, the bill would have had an exception for minors. It did not.
How is this even relevant?
It is not the doctor’s fault that they chose not to be a test case for whether a law that did not include specific exceptions actually had implicit operative exceptions due to emanations of the penumbra, or whatever you think would have saved this girl. In the current US legal environment where conservative judges are using the canards of “textualism” and “originalism” as bludgeons to implement conservative policy, it was entirely logical for the doctor to conclude that discretion was the better part of valour in this case.
Oh please. They wouldn’t have been a test case. You are pretending a possibility would be a certainty. And they were so ‘discrete’ they leaked it to a newspaper.
Also, if you think the right wouldn’t have gone after the child and her family in such a test case, you are clearly not reading this thread, where you lot are barking for red meat like a pack of rabid dogs.
Dear oh dear. This is one of Monty’s fever dreams.
You support the law, and think it should go further by declaring it a crime for anyone to help little girls in such a terrible situation, thus leaving her defenceless.
Her defence is never falling in the hands of the depraved and exposed to their depradations. Killing the child in utero does not defend the child being raped; in many cases, it guarantees its continuance.
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One of the problems with ‘Closing the Gap’ groups is that they will not acknowledge any component of the problem arising from the Aboriginal side. It must always be re-cast to be a whitey problem.
In addition, all these peak groups with their representative leaders – How are they chosen and by what criteria are they accepted.
When we speak of a leader in the mainstream we can also identify precisely the procedure by which that person became a leader. It could be that they were elected, or they were appointed by somebody in some senior position who is also a manifestation of a recognisable process. Their position has clearly defined privilege, responsibility, and standards against which they may fail and be removed. Aboriginal elders are…what?
They seem able to demand no end of deference but with no apparent obligation to the people they supposedly represent. Who decides who is an elder? What conditions have they had to satisfy in front of their own people? Where do they buy their possum skins?
The whole thing is designed for writing, not for achieving anything.
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We live in a time where young men and women never grow up.
Speaking of, Happy 30th Birthday, Miss Ellie, you magnifique l’il siren. 🙂
May you never figuratively grow up.
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Anyway, just my thoughts, please feel free to disagree.
Cassie, it’s actually really simple.
The progressive movement, especially the central part of women’s empowerment has created and convinced a generation of women to focus on a career instead of a family.
Most women spend the peak childbearing years (18-25) studying instead of settling down as they would have in the past…As for men, the push for equality has put most men into a position where the cost to benefit analysis of having a female in their life does not work due to our warped legal system.
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To the extent that it is possible to summarise m0nty-fa’s hysterical ramblings about abortion law in the US, he seems to have two themes.
The first is that the reality that Ohio law would have allowed the 10-yearv old to have an abortion, that is not enough. Abortion law must (in his tiny mind) reflect each individual circumstance in which an abortion can be legally provided, or else misogynist “Republican” judges will sadistically prevent any relief being provided.
The second theme is more hysterically phrased. He seems to believe that action taken against any alleged rapist of an underage child will cause that child to be somehow traumatised by the trial, therefore there should be no legal action. His position seems to be summarised by him as:
Yes, you handwave away the fact that an experienced child abuse doctor in the field made the perfectly logical decision to shield the 10-year-old girl (who may not speak English) from a years-long legal battle in which she would become the next Terry Schiavo, a political football to be kicked repeatedly.
Those with long memories might wonder at the contrast between this argument and m0nty-fa’s position on child sexual abuse cases of recent memory in Australia. It seems where abortion is involved, there should be no legal action against alleged rapists.
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Any ungrateful buggers are welcome to go and live in the outback, without electricity or supermarkets, or water. Or clothes, or transport. They’ll have their wonderful spiritual values to keep them happy, and the medicine will be chewing on bark or witchetty grubs.
I am aware of no Aborigine, ever, who has renounced the “white mans Toyota’s, tucker , grog and lolly shops” to ever resume the lifestyle of a Stone Age hunter gatherer…Perhaps those who stride into Parliament with their kangaroo skin cloaks might be offered such a choice…especially the women…
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Sacré bleu – one of these days I’ll actually get around to spelling “li’l” correctly. 😕
In the meantime, this is blasting on the newly reconfigured small lounge room stereo system.
Straight back to 2004, chemically altered in the Cross at 2:00am … 🙂
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Industrialisation of the countryside doesn’t seem to have many fans:
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So killing 4 kids & making another one a vegetable gets a minimum sentence of 15 years
“Appropriate” sentencing of criminals for their monstrous crimes lost all touch with reality decades ago. At this point – we could ponder why, for example, the bryant still exists, or why the milat wasn’t executed out of hand upon his apprehension.
HOP Time™ will be implemented courtesy of a soundly administered stamp on a piece of paper, in red ink, reading “DEATH”.
Purely to avoid the nightmarish scenario posited here recently by Doc Beaugan, where signing the many, many death warrants might result in a severe case of “Kanga Paw”.
You know it makes sense, Cats. 🙂
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Is Monty still arguing that absolute access to abortion on demand with an extreme case which can hardly be described as ‘on demand’?
Like me arguing I should be able to kick in my neighbours front door whenever I want and using his phone because if he collapsed in his backyard I would want to kick his door in to check on him and then call an ambulance.
Should he not be mounting an argument where a woman fumbles contraception, gets pregnant. And wants rid of the consequence? Why is he avoiding that argument when that is the very ‘right’ he seeks to defend?
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Dover, things are moving more quickly? The war should have been over by now, according to what the Kremlin said at the beginning. It’s now a quagmire with Russian assets being wasted at an enormous rate for every inch of land. The war has degraded Russia’s military enormously.
JC, yes. Lisichansk fell in about a week or so and they said that would be easier to defend than Severdonetsk. Now, Seversk and Soledar are about to fall and Bahkmut too. They are falling back to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Where did the Kremlin say it would be over briefly? And it’s hardly a quagmire. RUS losses are smaller now than they were earlier on and the UKR is losing multiples more now than the RUS. The Austrian Defence guy had a good summary of the present situation as of last weekend. There is no severe degradation of RUS military; likely the opposite.
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I just had a bottle of Cherry Tree Hill Pinot Noir. Beautiful depth, fruit, and smooth tannins that emerge slowly and are felt mostly in the cheeks.
The label hints at careful selection of various Pinot Noir clones, as well as Pinot Meunier – at 5% to round out flavours like in NV champers. Well, that much could be marketing humbug (looks like near savant oenological craftsmanship), but I can’t argue with the results.
I mention it because I found it in Dan Murphys so I expect it is widely available to anyone curious.
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So you try to be cool
You only try
But you just can’t do it …It’s a shame
A terrible shame
You know
You can look the way the look
But I got it
And you don’t …Is it the way I walk
Or maybe how I talk
Is it the clothes I wear?
I don’t think so …I’m just too cool
And I rool
And you don’t
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Cassie – excellent diatribe.
However.
We exist nowadays in a world that’s been turned upside down for about six decades at least.
What’s the cliche? “The West won the war but lost the peace” – and did we ever.
Humanity was at an insurmountable apex from about 1969 onwards and it’s been all downhill ever since.
I hate that saying about there being lots of ruin.
Just get it over and done with and reset or you’ll be existing through many decades of mediocrity you might just not have to.
What if it’s not meant for me?
Love … 🙂
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Particularly good Media Watchdog this week. We learned Red Kezza will keep himself busy at the Byron Bay Writers Festival ( one to put in your diaries) on a panel named to celebrate Mungo MacCallum, the Platonic ideal of the Lefty j’ismist.
Is there a more overrated place in Australia than Byron Bay?
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I found all the information I was looking for in the background.
And then some.Just the colossal effrontery of these people. Give me cash, for I have done fuck all.
There are parallels to the Staindl gofundme page. Take on a shit cause, have your arse handed to you and expect someone else to pay for it. Cassie, earlier:
Remember that Davidson, when he killed those children in early 2020, was not an adolescent at the time, he was in his late 20s, and yet he was still behaving like an adolescent. He had led a life of irresponsibility and immaturity and the catastrophic result
It’s the same thing. Not only are there no consequences, but it’s someone else’s fault.
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Rabzsays:
July 15, 2022 at 10:32 pm
We’re not going JFK* conspiracies
Il Cosa Nostra, peoples. There is no doubt it was them.
Funniest conspiracy blurb I ever saw was some guy on a doco spending five minutes excitedly telling us how the fatal shot could not have been fired from the book suppository because a large tree obstructed the view.
Until he was told by some crusty old Texan that the leafy tree he was looking at in spring didn’t have no leaves in November, and besides, it wasn’t near as big in 1963.
Not fazed.
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Rabz’ Friday Night Pop Tarts:
Wuthering Heights
Reaching out
Love and angerThe golden standard. You do not resist that siren.
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Funniest conspiracy blurb I ever saw was some guy on a doco spending five minutes excitedly telling us how the fatal shot could not have been fired from the book suppository because a large tree obstructed the view
Funniest conspiracy blurb I ever saw was some guy, on a doc, arguing that Lee Harvey Oswald couldn’t have made those shots, because he was a terrible shot – someone got Oswald’s records from the Marine Corps, which showed him to be an “Expert” rifleman – eight shots, out of ten, into a ten inch bullseye, at two hundred yards, sitting supported, which was the same position he was in, when he shot Kennedy.
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pop tarts… always had a thing for Edie back in the day.
I can see what attracted Paul Simon
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Is there a more overrated place in Australia than Byron Bay?
Can’t comment, Bear, being as I was last there in 1988, mate.
However.
Essaying the braindead lamestream meeja’s reporting of it since then, there have been various stages:
Barely known, mainly populated by locals (I worked with a woman who was a barmaid at the pub there for many years – run by a former rugby league player)
Increasingly well known, attracting various human detritus
Locals striking back, literally, against the interlopers (as claimed by Rex ‘unt)
Hollyweirdage , in exelcis … 😕
The sooner the place sinks into the sea or is submerged beneath a might tsunami, the better.
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We’re not going JFK conspiracies, are we?
It was all explained on an episode of “Red Dwarf”.
They were running out of canned lager and microwavable curries, so they used a time machine to get back to the 20th century to restock, but they got their co-ordinates wrong and materialised in the Texas Book Depository, bumped Lee Harvey Oswald and caused him to miss. That disrupted the timeline, JFK’s second term was a catastrophe and caused civilisational collapse, so canned lager and microwavable curries were never invented. – and JFK was imprisoned for life for various misdeeds during the disaster. They used the time machine to get a few years forward, sprung JFK from jail, explained the situation to him and then took him back to the fateful day. JFK shot himself from the grassy knoll, and with the timeline restored vanished from the grassy knoll. Things then proceeded as normal, they got their canned lager and microwavable curries and disappeared back to the future, leaving the mystery behind them. -
My God, we treat life cheaply
Who is we, Kemo Sabe?
If you mean society destroying, dirty rotten leftists with evil intent like “Justice” Paul Brereton then yes.From ABC News – The court ordered it impose the eight-year sentence reduction suggested by Justice Natalie Adams, while the more senior judge, Justice Paul Brereton, proposed a reduction of 12 years. A third judge, Justice Christine Adamson, dissented and dismissed the appeal.
We need more Adamsons.
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I note that “Justice” Paul Brereton’s other Christian name is Le Gay.
No comment.
Also he was so successful in his Army Reserve career he ended up as boss of the Cadet Units.
Wow. Stratospheric.I’m sure he was thinking “Well those parents have had their children killed by a drunk, drug addled, speeding, aggressive driver. My decision can’t hurt them any more. Yeah, let’s reduce the sentence by 12 years because it was only one mistake. Sure it was 4 deaths and one permanent brain injury, but still only one mistake.”
I wish only the worst for Brereton and the drunk driver Samuel Davidson.
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