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The Fall of the Rebel Angels, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1562

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2022 10:41 am

We should convert Liddell to burning old government reports. That would be both green biomass and recycling! And they’d never run out of fuel.

Visionary.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 10:41 am

There was this guy who was married to a blonde, and each night he came home with a new blonde joke. One night the wife got mad and decided to show him that she wasn’t dumb. She spent the whole next day learning all her states and capitals. That night when he got home, he told his joke. She says “I’m not so dumb. I know all of the states and capitals. Go ahead, quiz me”. He thought for a moment and asked “What is the capital of Australia?” She quickly replied “A!”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 10:42 am

We made shopping for power too hard for consumers

Clare Savage

Early in my term as chair of the Australian Energy Regulator I was asked to give a speech on consumer vulnerability. I think the topic of the speech was “getting to fairness”.

I struggled over what I would say because I have been heavily involved in the development of the energy system over the last 20 years and “fairness”, in my experience, has just never been one of the objectives.

As an economist, I railed at how to come to grips with “fairness” when I was much more comfortable with terms like “efficiency”

In preparing that speech, I forced myself out of the textbooks and into my own personal experience. I reflected on an encounter I’d had at that time with one of my family members. I had spent hours helping her navigate the Victorian Energy Compare website searching for the best energy plan for her.

It is a great website but it was still complex and confusing. Not even I was certain I had really found the best deal for her circumstances (which is frightening given I do this for a living). A week later, I asked her how she had gone switching to her new energy plan and she said she hadn’t done it. She couldn’t access the offer online and, due to her chronic anxiety, she couldn’t get through the switching process via the call centre. She had tried but had become overwhelmed and hung up after struggling to explain to the agent the plan she was looking for.

Our energy markets were designed with a narrow view of vulnerability. Our assumption had been that financial disadvantage was our primary concern and that governments would fix that through income transfers. The energy system didn’t need to get involved in social policy.

With the best of intentions, we designed the most efficient market we could with the naive belief that it would deliver the best outcomes for all consumers. What we delivered was an incredibly complex market that even energy professionals like me can struggle to engage with. Yet we know that 44 per cent of Australians are insufficiently literate to get by in everyday life. So, in that context, are complex energy markets fair?

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Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 10:43 am

Anyone who says he can see through women is missing a lot.

– Groucho Marx

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2022 10:46 am

Putin has declared martial law in Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2022 10:50 am

People of no appearance doing things of no consequence??

A masterclass in ABC saying stuff by not saying anything much.

Owners of Halls Creek’s Kimberley Hotel seek to build electric fence to stop thefts, break-ins

The Kimberley Hotel at Halls Creek, 2,600km north of Perth, has lodged a development application to install the security measure, with councillors to vote on the proposal at a meeting later today.

The pub is one of the only accommodation options for essential FIFO staff such as doctors, nurses and trades workers who provide services in the outback town.

Family assaults and youth crime hit an all-time high in the town earlier this year. Earlier this week an incident occurred where rocks were thrown at an aged care home.

cohenite
October 20, 2022 10:54 am

Steyn interviews Morano and LM, who is looking different from when I last saw him in Australia in 2010, about their escapades at a debate with some alarmists which went well: from the 48 min mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXPHzTWiQFc&t=2883s

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 10:54 am

Family assaults and youth crime hit an all-time high in the town earlier this year. Earlier this week an incident occurred where rocks were thrown at an aged care home.

Was it by white people or others and where were the Police?

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 10:54 am

“As my for my f*cking family, they are dead to me. The staggeringly stupid hysterical gullible mongrel nazi bastards.”

It’s still sad Rabz

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 10:56 am

Are you a mosquito magnet? It’s because of how you smell

Definitely my Wife – when we are together outside, I don’t need Aeroguard, as the Mossies always bite her and never bother me

Female mosquitoes are built to bite for blood because without it they won’t have enough protein to reproduce.

“Think of it like a big protein shake,” Vosshall said. “It’s a way for them, over the course of one minute, to take in the equivalent of 150 pounds of food and then use that to produce eggs.”

Scientists already knew these mosquitoes have a preference for some humans over others but the reason isn’t fully understood.

Experts have found people seem to become more attractive to mosquitoes when they’re pregnant or after they’ve had a few beers, prompting further research into whether mosquitoes may be drawn to certain odours.

Fortunately, nobody had to sit in a room full of mosquitoes to conduct this experiment. Instead, the researchers collected the natural scent from people’s skin by having them wear nylon stockings on their arms. They cut the stockings into two-inch pieces and placed two pieces of the fabric behind two separate trap doors in a clear plastic box where dozens of mosquitoes are flying around. The researchers would then open the traps and the insects would choose to either fly to the bait – the stockings – behind the first or the second door.

Vosshall said the researchers conducted a round-robin style tournament and counted each time an insect was drawn to a particular sample, much like points in a basketball game. One of the samples, described as being from “subject 33,” emerged as a favourite of the insects.

“Subject 33 won a hundred games,” Vosshall said. “They were totally undefeated. Nobody beat them.”

The study found that people like subject 33, who have higher levels of compounds called carboxylic acids on their skin, are more likely to be “mosquito magnets,” Vosshall said.

“If you’re a mosquito magnet today,” Vosshall said, “you will be a mosquito magnet three years from now.”

The study didn’t answer why some people have more carboxylic acids on their skin than others. But, Vosshall said the composition of the skin microbiome is unique in every individual.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 10:57 am

“I may it wrong but the pathetic judge in the britnee case is saying it has to be unanimous guilty or not guilty. If that’s what she is saying it will have to go to retrial. How many retrials can be had to find a jury willing to convict. How can another jury be found that hasn’t heard previous bits of no evidence. Is this her way of getting out of presiding. I really don’t understand how if you’re not 100% guilty then there is doubt.”

Ask George Pell about this.

Rabz
October 20, 2022 10:58 am

Yet we know that 44 per cent of Australians are insufficiently literate to get by in everyday life

Collectivism, come on down!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2022 10:59 am

What we delivered was an incredibly complex market that even energy professionals like me can struggle to engage with.

What we delivered was an incredibly distorted and rorted market that even energy professionals like me can struggle to engage with.

In these cases complexity and opaqueness = profits.
its not accidental, its designed.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 11:00 am

Three men with speech impediments are in therapy. The therapist is blonde, petite and pretty. She says “If you can tell me where you live, without stuttering, I’ll give you a blow job!” First one stammers “BBBirmingham”. The next one “MMManchchester” The third one stands up, composes himself, and says “London”. She gets his cock out, and gives him the best blowjob he has ever had. As he climaxes, he sighs “… ddderry!”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 11:01 am

Was it by white people or others and where were the Police?

Police have their hands tied – any arrests made, are made purely on racial grounds.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 11:02 am

Why should I care about posterity? What’s posterity ever done for me?

– Groucho Marx

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 11:05 am

thefrollickingmolesays:
October 20, 2022 at 10:50 am
People of no appearance doing things of no consequence??

A masterclass in ABC saying stuff by not saying anything much.

Owners of Halls Creek’s Kimberley Hotel seek to build electric fence to stop thefts, break-ins

Having been. through Halls Creek many times I am on the Pub’s side

Concerns were raised on health risks to children and people with heart problems, reputational damage and adequate signage for non-English speakers.

The company said the amount of energy the fence would use had been tested to be safe for all people, including those using pacemakers.

The pulse detection would also send an alarm to a mobile phone, notifying hotel staff of potential break-ins.

The outback town is home to diverse language speakers, with many Aboriginal residents speaking English as a second or third language.

And a Link below that Story

Record youth crime in Halls Creek sees nightly attacks on hotel

Kimberley Hotel in Halls Creek accommodates much-needed workers like doctors, nurses and tradespeople who mostly come to the town on a rotational basis.

Kimberley Accommodation Group managing director Dannielle Hart said every night teenagers and children target the hotel leaving customers with a dim view of safety in the town.

“They cut through fences, break into the reception, break into the bar, break into hotel rooms … they steal cars, drive them through the fence and do doughnuts out the front,” she said.

“There’s no fear. They’re throwing rocks at us … very damaging for staff morale.”

This week the hotel shut its public bar for the second time in six months after more than a dozen criminal incidents in the past five days.

WA crime statistics, which go back to 2013, show family assaults and youth crime has reached an all-time high in the town, where overcrowding in housing remains a serious problem.

Halls Creek is also grappling with a truancy crisis as large numbers of children choose to roam the streets at night, instead of turning up to school.

Even efforts to use the local pool to improve school attendance were short-lived after the facility became the target of break-ins and anti-social behaviour.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 11:06 am

Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.

– Plato

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 11:08 am

Are you a mosquito magnet? It’s because of how you smell

I used to be. Mozzies love me. But then I acquired a small horde of noisy miners.
The fun fringe benefit is they appear to’ve et all the mosquitos. Rarely do I get any now.

(Sadly my young hand noisy has vanished this week, I hope only driven away by the family enforcers. His sister is still here, but she hides under my house. Noisies are pretty brutal about evicting the younguns as soon as they can, to make way for the next batch. My suburb is now full of noisies, and as a result has many fewer indian mynahs.)

P
P
October 20, 2022 11:09 am

“I may it wrong but the pathetic judge in the britnee case is saying it has to be unanimous guilty or not guilty. If that’s what she is saying it will have to go to retrial. How many retrials can be had to find a jury willing to convict. How can another jury be found that hasn’t heard previous bits of no evidence. Is this her way of getting out of presiding. I really don’t understand how if you’re not 100% guilty then there is doubt.”

Increase in hung juries raises stress
First published October 27 2012. Updated April 18 2018.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2022 11:17 am

What we delivered was an incredibly distorted and rorted market that even energy professionals like me can struggle to engage with.

In these cases complexity and opaqueness = profits.
its not accidental, its designed.

This is not an overstatement.

Remember this when you read breathless commentary that business and business associations are right behind renewables. The Australian energy market has been transformed into a feeding trough.

By design.
By government agencies.

Ultimately the feed in the trough is us.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 20, 2022 11:19 am

In these cases complexity and opaqueness = profits.
its not accidental, its designed.

Recognised theory in economics. Complexity discourages or reduces gains from comparisons. You see it all the time – mobile phone plans, airline seats, insurance …

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 11:20 am

New Conservative Swedish Prime Minister Axes Environment Ministry, Demands End to ‘Feminist’ Foreign Policy

Smelling salts were all the rage in Europe this week as the new conservative Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson was elected by the Swedish parliament.

Kristersson immediately set about the task of causing left-wing heads to explode all across the continent when he axed the Environment Ministry and pledged to end Sweden’s “feminist” foreign policy.

The left-wing opposition in Sweden called the ending of the Environment Ministry “devastating.” But fear not Greens. The ministry’s responsibilities will operate as part of another ministry — the new Energy, Business, and Industry Ministry.

Poor Greta Thunberg must have fainted dead away after Kristerrsson named to the post of Climate and Environment Minister a woman almost as young as Greta. Romina Pourmokhtari is 26 and headed up the youth branch of the Liberal Party. She supports Kristersson — as long as he doesn’t align the conservative coalition he heads up too closely with the SD, the Swedish nationalists.

With all the whining on the left about ending the Environment Ministry, you’d think something terrible happened.

Par Holmgren, a Swedish Green Party MEP, said, “expect huge cuts in green funding leading to a devastating impact on climate policies that we, the Greens, worked so hard to put in place.”

Isabella Lövin, chairperson of the board at the Stockholm Environmental Institute and herself a former minister of environment, said that green issues in Sweden had been “set back 35 years”.

That sounds just about right. Thirty-five years would take us back to the late 1980s when climate activism was an annoyance and the worst the Greens could do was try and save baby seals from getting clubbed to death.

The real interesting change in Kristersson’s proposed government is in his ending “feminist foreign policy.”

Foreign Affairs Minister Tobias Billström said in an interview, “We will not pursue a feminist foreign policy. That label has not served a good purpose. It has obscured the fact that Swedish foreign policy must be based on what Swedish interests and Swedish values are.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2022 11:22 am

Dot bait, get your Dot bait here, cheap at 1/2 the price!!!

Apparently not wanting your state to intervene in a war makes you a bad libertarian.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fworld%2Feurope%2Fkremlintarians-russia-s-war-on-ukraine-exposes-great-libertarian-divide-20221006-p5bnp9.html

Russia’s war on Ukraine has exposed a deep divide within the world of libertarians, who typically champion personal rights and freedoms while opposing the excessive powers of government.

For libertarians in countries near Russia, like Poland and Estonia, the Kremlin’s action in Ukraine is government tyranny writ large. The Russian state has invaded Ukraine, unleashing a wave of violence that deprives Ukrainians of their right to live peacefully.
However, for many American libertarians, Russia’s actions are no reason to back the United States’ support for Ukraine. In fact, sometimes, they’re a reason to troll Ukraine’s leader.

American libertarians – highly sceptical, even cynical, of the role of government – are ambivalent about US wars. In 2003, libertarian-leaning Ron Paul, then a congressman, famously bucked his fellow Republicans in their rush to war against Iraq, attracting a surge of support.

Its a confused sharticle.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 11:23 am

Brutal. Absolutely brutal.

I must buy and read his two most recent novels before the mid-terms, in case the Dems steal them and he gets ban-hammered by Amazon.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 20, 2022 11:24 am

“It has obscured the fact that Swedish foreign policy must be based on what Swedish interests and Swedish values are.”

If only mUnty could tell us how it was received in Malmo.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2022 11:24 am

Independent MP Zali Steggall

Zali needs to curtail any further co2 emissions from her nose and mouth, she must must immediately enter the realm of net zero. Lead by example Zali, for Gaia!

Rabz
October 20, 2022 11:29 am

From P’s link above:

“The justice in the jury system is that if even one of the jurors has a ‘reasonable doubt’ then there is no conviction.”

Nor should there be, nor any retrial. Talk about double jeopardy.

I simply cannot see how in any sane or just world, Lerhmann could be convicted of rape.

There was no evidence. None. The drunken bimbo’s only realistic chance of proving that intercourse had taken place would have been fronting up that Saturday morning to have DNA evidence gathered (if indeed any existed).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 11:35 am

“I simply cannot see how in any sane or just world, Lerhmann could be convicted of rape.”

Um, there’t the problem right there.

As has been mentioned the jury system requires a degree of social cohesion. We’re now divided into cantons who are loyal to the own tribes. So hung juries are the rule not the exception. In this case the woke wymminses will have enormous pressure upon them to be loyal to their girl.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2022 11:35 am

Seems to be a very good scam as it works. BTW it is not AI.

it doesn’t work. its old school ai, not the modern versions. its a scam

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 11:37 am

Even efforts to use the local pool to improve school attendance were short-lived after the facility became the target of break-ins and anti-social behaviour.

Cite you the outback community where a new swimming pool was built, to improve school attendance and standards of hygiene.

The local children drove a four wheel drive into the swimming pool – their defence was that they were bored…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 11:37 am

The Modern Western World

Uber Eats Sparks Up Weed Delivery Service In Toronto

Uber Eats announced on Sunday that it will now deliver marijuana from local dispensaries to residents in the Toronto area.

Uber Eats announced Sunday that it will deliver cannabis to residents in the Toronto area.

In a statement, the food delivery service said it has partnered with online marijuana marketplace Leafly to deliver from three local cannabis retailers — Hidden Leaf Cannabis, Minerva Cannabis and Shivaa’s Rose.

Residents over the age of 19 will be allowed to place orders from the three local licensed cannabis retailers in the city through the Uber Eats app. Then the retailers will send staff certified under the province’s cannabis retail education program, CannSell, to deliver customers’ purchases to their doorstep.

“We are partnering with industry leaders like Leafly to help retailers offer safe, convenient options for people in Toronto to purchase legal cannabis for delivery to their homes, which will help combat the illegal market and help reduce impaired driving,” Uber Eats Canada General Manager Lola Kassim said in a statement.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 11:57 am

The longer the jury takes in the he said/she said case, the likelihood of him being acquitted diminishes by the hour.

Happy (and hoping) to be proven wrong.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 11:58 am

Victoria to bring back state ownership of energy

The Victorian government of Daniel Andrews will revive a state body to invest in renewable energy projects and is expected to legislate the closure of all coal-fired power plants by 2035 in a major push to accelerate the energy transition and cut power bills.

The premier said his government, if re-elected in next month’s election, will take controlling stakes in new renewable energy projects to ensure that Victorians own the power stations that will replace coal power.

An initial investment of $1 billion will go towards delivering 4.5 gigawatts of power generation through renewable energy, according to a statement from the premier released on Thursday.

“Unreliable, privatised coal will be replaced by clean, government-owned, renewable energy,” the premier said.

The State Electricity Commission will be brought back and become a major player in the energy market under the government’s 10-year plan, which will include investing all profits back into the network.

That will make sure “it’s the Victorian public, not offshore coal companies, who enjoy the returns,” the premier said.

AGL has announced it is closing Victoria’s biggest power station, Loy Yang A, a decade early. The government said the power station had reaped billions in profits from Victorians.

“We’re at a critical point. Only Labor has a plan to keep the lights on, bring bills down and create thousands of jobs in renewable energy,” he said.

Jeff Dimery, chief executive of Alinta Energy, owner of the Loy Yang B power station which has a rated life out into the 2040s, said employees would be “shocked” by the announcement.

“We learned this morning that the Victorian Government intends to legislate for the closure of coal-fired power stations in the state by 2035, as part of its 95 per cent renewables target,” Mr Dimery said.

“We’ve taken strong steps to prepare for the transition, and have one of the most well-advanced renewables and storage project pipelines, but we need to understand more about how the Government intends to manage the cost of the expedited transition, protect communities and workers, and support us to invest in the replacement generation required to keep the lights on in the state.

“Our immediate priority and focus will be supporting our employees at Loy Yang B who will be understandably shocked by this announcement.”

duncanm
duncanm
October 20, 2022 12:01 pm

Steggall compares energy companies to tobacco

Despite thinking she couldn’t say anything dumber, the woman continues to impress me with her stupidity.

rickw
rickw
October 20, 2022 12:19 pm

‘Never in the field of human endeavour have so many apologies been owed by so many to so few’

The more reports that get written, that analyse events, and that fall on the side of what was obvious at the time.

The fucking angrier I get.

Fired for being right.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2022 12:20 pm

In more mongtorian news…

Historic deal struck to begin Victorian treaty negotiations with First Nations groups
Under the framework, traditional owners will enter into interim agreements during negotiations

The deal struck between the Andrews government and the First Peoples’ Assembly – the body elected to negotiate an overarching framework for treaty – includes an initial investment of $65m over three years into a fund to help traditional owners commence treaty negotiations.


Stewart said the framework signified the state government stepping back on managing Indigenous affairs, but would not reduce its service-delivery responsibilities.

The treaty authority – the independent umpire that will oversee negotiations – will be responsible for resolving disputes that arise, either between two traditional owner groups or between one group and the government. The authority will also recognise First People’s lore and law.

But the fund – to be administered by the assembly – will also be an independent source of revenue to help First Nations Victorians build wealth, particularly for future generations. It will be available to all traditional owner groups, including those not formally recognised under Victoria’s legislation.

The May state budget included $151m over four years to support elements of the treaty process. But further investments for the fund will be subject to negotiations between the assembly and the government.

Munni, marvelous munni in a never ending near unaccountable stream in perpetuity.
Our new feudal overlords, freed from the constraints of needing to make a living will surely lead us to the sunlit uplands this time!

Tom
Tom
October 20, 2022 12:22 pm

The longer the jury takes in the he said/she said case, the likelihood of him being acquitted diminishes by the hour.

Cassie, I think the opposite is true: the longer it takes, the more divided the jury. More division = less likelihood of a conviction.

duncanm
duncanm
October 20, 2022 12:23 pm

I may it wrong but the pathetic judge in the britnee case is saying it has to be unanimous guilty or not guilty

errrm… I’m no lawyer, but I understand that unanimity is a requirement for jury verdicts in the ACT.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 12:24 pm

Feces-plagued US city to spend $1.7 million on one public toilet

San Francisco has announced plans to spend nearly four times the cost of a typical US home to construct a single water closet

San Francisco’s local government expects to spend up to $1.7 million to build just one public toilet – hardly a drop in the bucket for a city that gets thousands of complaints annually of feces on its sidewalks

– and the project will take an estimated three years to complete.

I didn’t know there was a Branch of Victorian CFMEU in California?

As San Francisco Chronicle columnist Heather Knight explained, “Another public toilet in a city with very few of them is excellent. But the details of this particular flint? They’re mind-boggling, and sum up a lot of what’s wrong with our city government.”

rickw
rickw
October 20, 2022 12:24 pm

“Unreliable, privatised coal will be replaced by clean, government-owned, renewable energy,” the premier said.

Dickhead Dan is a consummate liar. He never flinches no matter how absurd and false the statement is.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2022 12:25 pm

Tomsays:
October 20, 2022 at 12:22 pm
The longer the jury takes in the he said/she said case, the likelihood of him being acquitted diminishes by the hour.
……
Cassie, I think the opposite is true: the longer it takes, the more divided the jury. More division = less likelihood of a conviction.

I agree with Tom.
Or, more correctly, the longer it takes the less likely it is that there will be a definitive verdict either way – conviction or acquittal.

dopey
dopey
October 20, 2022 12:25 pm

The judge’s direction to the jurors was possibly misleading. If the jury is divided, the minority may feel obliged to switch over to make it unanimous.

bons
bons
October 20, 2022 12:25 pm

The new Swedish PM is adopting the Keating principle when dealing with publicaly funded entities.
Never argue, just take the money away.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 12:33 pm

Historic deal struck to begin Victorian treaty negotiations with First Nations groups
Under the framework, traditional owners will enter into interim agreements during negotiations

Do the States have the power to enter into any such treaties?

Razey
Razey
October 20, 2022 12:44 pm

rickwsays:
October 20, 2022 at 12:19 pm
‘Never in the field of human endeavour have so many apologies been owed by so many to so few’

The more reports that get written, that analyse events, and that fall on the side of what was obvious at the time.

The fucking angrier I get.

Fired for being right.

They’re all cunts, especially the fascist Hunchback.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2022 12:46 pm

dopeysays:
October 20, 2022 at 12:25 pm
The judge’s direction to the jurors was possibly misleading. If the jury is divided, the minority may feel obliged to switch over to make it unanimous.

I don’t read anything sinister into that direction.
It was a statement of legal fact.
The last thing this shit-show needs is for a jury to come back with a “verdict” based on a majority vote based on someone on the jury having a box set of “LA Law”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 12:46 pm

Leo Pruneau – Holden Chief Designer | SHANNONS DESIGN TO DRIVEWAY | Ep 1

Shannons Design to Driveway is the unprecedented summary of Australian car design, as told by the men who shaped and styled some of the most iconic and loved cars ever made on Australian soil.

Shrouded in mystery and under high security, the Design Studio was always locked to everyone other than the design teams and the most senior car-company executives.

The heroes of Australian motoring have always been the cars themselves or the race drivers who steered them to victory.

This Original Series from Shannons celebrates the men and women who have designed our local cars for nearly a century. It is the one piece of our motoring history, that has largely remained untold.

For the first time, seven of Australia’s most influential car designers over the past seven decades come together in this Shannons Original Series and take motor enthusiasts on an exclusive walk into the archives of Australian car design.

Each of our featured Designers, reveal exclusive images, designs and the original clay models from each of the ‘big 4’ Australian car companies.

Each episode is hosted by motoring journalist and artist Warren Brown who retraces the careers of each designer, whilst motor historian David Burrell from Shannons own RetroAutos, provides viewers with context during each episode.

Watch Now

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 12:49 pm

Russia braces for Ukrainian offensive in Kherson: What we know so far

Kiev’s troops are reportedly moving out for a major push on Kherson

From the Comments

URGENT: BREAKING NEWS, OCTOBER 19, 2022, WEDNESDAY, 858PM EASTERN TIME: OVERVIEW ON OCTOBER 19: BLOODY DAY FOR UKRAINE ON KHERSON FRONT LINES: On the morning of October 19, the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched again offensive operations on the front lines in the Kherson region. The main strike of the AFU was aimed at breaking through Russian defences along the right bank 0f the Dnieper River. At the same time, Ukrainian forces attempted to advance on the western front lines in the region and fierce clashes broke out near Davidov Brod.

The main battlefield in the Kherson region is the area near Dudchany, Mylovoe and Sukhanovo, where the AFU continue their attempts to advance towards the towns of Berislav and Novaya Kamenka.

On October 19, Ukrainian military launched another large-scaled offensive operation which the forces of at least two battalions of the 128th Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU, reinforced by a tank battalion of the 17th Brigade. A total of about 50 armored vehicles were reportedly deployed by the AFU in their offensive. The first attack failed. By noon, the AFU transferred reserves to the battlefield. They included two companies of the 28th brigade and a tank company of the 56th motorized Infantry Brigade. According to the local reports, at least two battalions of the 60th Separate Infantry Brigade, which are reinforced by foreign militants from the USA, France, Belgium and Canada also took part in the offensive.

The advancing mercenary units came under heavy fire by Russian artillery and were forced to retreat. According to preliminary reports, more than 15 tanks and 10 armored vehicles were destroyed. The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can reach hundreds of dead and wounded servicemen, including those who were captured by Russian forces. Six RQ-20 Puma reconnaissance drones and a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force were reportedly shot down in the area in the morning during Ukrainian reconnaissance operations before the offensive.

Ater failed offensive, the AFU were forced to retreat and are now regrouping their forces, preparing for new attacks

URGENT: OCTOBER 19, 2022 WEDNESDAY.. BELORUS PREPARES FOR MASSIVE ATTACK ON UKRAINE OPENING UP NEW FRONT IN THE NORTH WHILE RUSSIAN TROOPS HAVE LAUNCHED A COUNTER ATTACK in Dvorichna, CAPTURING HOROBIVKA. According to reports, Belarusian troops, about 70,000 are ready to engaged the enemy in the North in addition to thousands of russian troops. Massive bombardment by the russians is taking place while the ukranazis are trying to hold their lines.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2022 12:50 pm

Victoria to bring back state ownership of energy

Mmm…with all due modesty, I predicted this.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 20, 2022 12:50 pm

duncanmsays:
October 20, 2022 at 12:23 pm
I may it wrong but the pathetic judge in the britnee case is saying it has to be unanimous guilty or not guilty

errrm… I’m no lawyer, but I understand that unanimity is a requirement for jury verdicts in the ACT.

I can understand that for guilty verdicts but not innocence. Where is the doubt factor?

Jorge
Jorge
October 20, 2022 12:54 pm

Even efforts to use the local pool to improve school attendance were short-lived after the facility became the target of break-ins and anti-social behaviour.

How about using a little adolescent psychology ? A swimming pool is too tame.

Not far from me is a skate park. Hoons, yobs, apprentice criminals and the ill at ease gather there to compete in feats of strength and self destruction which rise to a new pitch if girls are present.

What young blokes need is somewhere to show off. They like tests and the pub at Halls is a good one. They can’t write poetry.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 12:55 pm

San Francisco’s local government expects to spend up to $1.7 million to build just one public toilet

Ratcatchers may now apply to the NY Mayor’s office:

“We Gonna Kill Rats”: New York City Battles “Sea Of Rodents” (19 Oct)

New York City is tackling a “sea of rodents” that has taken over the streets.

In a Monday press conference, Mayor Eric Adams and crew announced that the city would be limiting the window for residents to put their trash on the curb from 4pm to 8pm. If residents have sealed containers, they can place them outside no earlier than 6 pm.

“This will reduce the amount of time trash is out before collections,” said Mayor Eric Adams. “No more watching these bags litter our sidewalks.”

Pied pipers might also be welcome, especially if they’re trannies.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 12:55 pm

Biden’s energy policy stupidity

Americans pay a heavy price for the president’s policies

President Biden prepares to turn 80 shortly after the Nov. 8 midterm elections, but it is his energy policy failure that has shown itself to be one for the ages. With winter looming, Americans would be hard-pressed to name a U.S. president who has done more to drive up the price of power.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported last week that while September’s consumer price index climbed 8.2% in the past year, energy led all major categories of consumables with a 19.8% spike. And while all-important gasoline prices declined for nearly 100 days in the summer, they have turned skyward again, hovering around $3.90 per gallon nationally. Over the course of Mr. Biden’s nearly two years in office, gas prices have risen 64%, reports Factcheck.org.

Damage to the U.S. economy extends far beyond higher fuel costs, though. An October study by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity exposes as misinformation the president’s claims to be doing all he can do” to reduce pump prices and that U.S. oil and gas production has reached near “record levels.”

“We find that Biden’s policies have shifted the energy supply curve such that we are producing less oil and gas at the range of current price levels that we would have with the Trump energy policies still in place,” the study reads. “The U.S. would be producing between 2 and 3 million more barrels of oil a day and between 20 and 25 more billion cubic feet of natural gas under the Trump policies. This translates into an economic loss — or tax on the American economy — of roughly $100 billion a year.”

A hundred big ones annually are a heavy price Americans are paying for Mr. Biden’s energy perfidy. Saudi Arabia lifted the veil last week on a Biden administration scheme that urged the kingdom in its role as OPEC leader to delay a reduction in oil production until after the U.S. midterm elections on Nov. 8. The Saudi revelation came as apparent payback for a U.S. threat of diplomatic retaliation after OPEC refused to delay its planned cuts.

Mr. Biden expressed outrage at the exposure of his secret efforts to keep energy anxieties off the ballot during the upcoming U.S. midterms, vowing to “reassess” U.S. links with the Saudis. Meanwhile, some Senate Democrats have called for ending weapons sales to the nation’s most powerful Arab ally.

Officialdom does not mention, though, that it is the Biden administration’s foolish attempts to resurrect the faulty Iran nuclear deal that has triggered a similar Saudi reassessment of its relations with Washington. How exactly does plying the Saudi’s mortal enemy with billions that can fund an ongoing proxy war on the Saudi-Yemeni border, while eventually leading to a nuclear-armed Iran, secure Middle East peace?

It doesn’t, which is why the kingdom has declined to help Mr. Biden avoid a costly political price on Election Day. As a consequence of the president’s foolish energy policy, Americans face a winter of energy poverty. Their only retaliatory weapon is their vote.

Lysander
Lysander
October 20, 2022 12:55 pm

What’s taking the jury so long?

Obviously some doubts being raised…

Razey
Razey
October 20, 2022 12:57 pm

This report is absolute load of shit. Nothing about the disgusting clotshot mandates, and there is this rubbish:

In February 2022, under new pandemic legislation,
Victoria established an Independent Pandemic
Management Committee to ensure the exercise of
government powers is proportionate. It brings together
experts with knowledge in public health, infectious
disease, primary care, emergency services, critical care,
business, law and human rights. Its goal is to build
community confidence and trust. To-date it has publicly
released two reviews of government actions.120 This is
an important starting step in enhancing transparency

https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/hub/media/tearout-excerpt/10774/Independent-Review-into-Australia's-response-to-COVID-19.pdf

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 1:05 pm

President Biden: Sin Eater for the Democrats

The Jeff Bezos Post constantly reminds us that “Democracy Dies in Darkness.”

But dying is a hungry business.

And with Democrats worried about that projected Red Wave mid-term election in November, President Joe Biden opted for ice cream the other day in a Baskin Robbins in Oregon. There, he bleated out some economic gibberish that even he doesn’t believe.

“Our economy is strong as hell,” the president Biden told reporters.

Yeah Joe, sure.

A Red Wave mid-term election is coming.

He’ll become his party’s sin eater. What else can he do?

He’ll just sit there, spouting more gibberish, and eat his party’s sins like some creature in 18th Century Wales or England or Ireland among those who knew of the strange ways of the sin eaters:

Their world was superstition, ignorance, violence, cold stones, poverty and starvation all around. Yet there was a means to avoid starvation. You became a sin eater. In the house of the dead, the family of the dead would put out bread and roasts and wine. The sin eater would consume them and consume the sins of the dead.

Biden is the sin eater of the 2022 mid-term. He’ll consume the party’s sins so it can move on, whether he likes it or not.

Nationally, just a month ago, independent women voters supported Democrats by a 14 percentage points as the Democrat Party and their handmaidens of the media thumped the abortion drum.

But people don’t get an abortion every day.

According to a New York Times/Siena College poll, there has been a flip. Female independent voters who supported the Democrats by 14 points now favor the Republicans by 18 points. This is an amazing reversal in just weeks.

Old Joe should get into a boat, sit high atop a pile of dry tinder and oiled wood, float away and burn. A stirring Viking funeral would be preferable to the weeping of Jake Tapper on CNN.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 1:09 pm

What young blokes need is somewhere to show off. They like tests and the pub at Halls is a good one. They can’t write poetry.

Darwin in action:

Mean girl: You must climb the fence of Hall Creek pub and bring me a bag of cheezles!
Boy: Ok.
Boy: Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch. Can I have a bag of cheezles please? Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch.
Boy: Here’s your cheezles. Can we have sex now?
Mean girl: No.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 20, 2022 1:11 pm

Rabz, that is such a sad situation and I am sorry you were abandoned by family who are by definition meant to look out for us

Funny how only leftists chuck their shit when someone disagrees with them.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 20, 2022 1:15 pm

TaliDan decides the ETU hasn’t got enough power or cash to prop up the regime so decided to take over power generation.
Reliable electricity is not on the agenda.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 20, 2022 1:18 pm

Zali needs to curtail any further co2 emissions from her nose and mouth, she must must immediately enter the realm of net zero. Lead by example Zali, for Gaia!

It really ought not be too difficult to model the results of relying on ruinables, and then supply power to Zali (and a host of mindless others) in accordance with the results. Let the lights go out, the oven to cut out, let the aircon go still – and even give them the option of switching on a generator (which they will likely do after telling themselves their work is important).

Let them live a bit on the world they would have us live in.

Put such an option to them, then ask them to explain why they won’t take it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2022 1:18 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
October 20, 2022 at 12:33 pm
Historic deal struck to begin Victorian treaty negotiations with First Nations groups
Under the framework, traditional owners will enter into interim agreements during negotiations

Do the States have the power to enter into any such treaties?

They can probably enter into agreements, but those almost certainly (nothing is certain in the law, particularly in these post -modern times) will not have the international status of treaties.

Rabz
October 20, 2022 1:18 pm

I think the opposite is true: the longer it takes, the more divided the jury. More division = less likelihood of a conviction.

Agreed. In the case I was a juror on, we were (nor so subtly) criticised by a Canberra Times j’ismist for “taking just over an hour to find the defendants guilty of ten of the eleven charges”.

As jury foreman, I worked the others like pack huskies so we could be out of there as quickly as possible – and we did find them “not guilty” on one of the charges*, so hey, what was the fuss about?

*Pure “she said, they said”, with no other corroborating evidence. Every other charge had a mountain of other evidence in support.

duncanm
duncanm
October 20, 2022 1:25 pm

Lidia Thorpe dated ex-bikie boss while on law enforcement panel
The Greens senator has admitted to dating ex-Rebel bikie Dean Martin, and failed to disclose the relationship at a time she received confidential briefings on bikie gangs and organised crime.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2022 1:25 pm

Jorge

What young blokes need is somewhere to show off. They like tests and the pub at Halls is a good one. They can’t write poetry.

Visiting Carnarvon Gorge in Queensland some years ago, we were shown handprints and images of women’s carrying baskets high on a rock wall. The guide was on about some mystic thing. I hesitated to suggest that the paintings were probably the young lads showing off to the girls.

“Look how high up my hand print is!” “Mine’s higher than his!” “Gimme your carrier, I’ll put a painting of it higher up the wall than he did of hers!”

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2022 1:28 pm

Reliable electricity is not on the agenda.

Note when Elbow was in VIC recently it was all about how renewables will provide jobs.

Nothing about reliability or affordability.

It will come back to bite them, though…big time.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2022 1:30 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
October 20, 2022 at 1:15 pm
TaliDan decides the ETU hasn’t got enough power or cash to prop up the regime so decided to take over power generation.
Reliable electricity is not on the agenda.

Once the state government owns electricity generation, it owns the blackouts too.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2022 1:30 pm

So a low rent bikie moll sitting on a comittee investigating bikie crime inks is coincidentally sending encrypted messages to the president of a bikie chapter.

The staffer says Senator Thorpe said she and Mr Martin were using encrypted communications app Signal, “[that] they clear their conversations once a week, that they never meet at their respective homes … and that she was being really careful”.

Senator Thorpe acknowledged to the ABC that one of her staff “did raise how my friendship may be perceived by others who were not aware of our shared interest in advocacy for First Nations peoples”.

As normal people do.
All approved after the fact by Brant himself.

Razey
Razey
October 20, 2022 1:33 pm

Note when Elbow was in VIC recently it was all about how renewables will provide jobs.

Only Gays, Trans, Women and Abo’s need apply.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 1:35 pm

They can probably enter into agreements, but those almost certainly (nothing is certain in the law, particularly in these post -modern times) will not have the international status of treaties.

The Barnett Government of Western Australia entered into what was described as a “de facto” treaty with the Noongar people – in exchange for over a billion dollars in cash, facilities and programmes, all land claims past, present and future would be considered settled. Seven dissident Noongars claimed they hadn’t been properly consulted, and took legal action, demanding over twenty billion dollars in compensation, for “loss of their traditional links to the land.”

I’ll bet good money on any similar legal dogfight with any State that enters into any such agreement.

caveman
caveman
October 20, 2022 1:36 pm

Covid response ‘overreach’ hurt nation: independent review

KEY FACTS

No need for a Royal Commission now.
Policy was at fault….nothing to see here , move on.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 20, 2022 1:36 pm

Historic deal struck to begin Victorian treaty negotiations with First Nations groups
Under the framework, traditional owners will enter into interim agreements during negotiations

Do the States have the power to enter into any such treaties?

Probably not a bad thing that one jurisdiction goes through the treaty mummery. It will give the whole country a chance to see just what a pigs breakfast and lawyers’ picnic the ridiculous National Voice would be. The activists won’t be able to help themselves. They will be stabbing each other in the back, making absurd claims, making ludicrous demands and, most importantly, screeching out their sheer hatred of Australia and Australians.

And eventually, when the whole mess in Victoria becomes utterly untenable, so meek little judge will point out that the ‘treaty’ that underpinned the orgy of entitlement was not valid, nor anything that flowed on from it. So even Vicco will be able to escape the madness.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 20, 2022 1:37 pm

Thou art ‘boring as sh1t’: Is Shakespeare relevant to NZ in 2022?

Every year in high school, Sasha Hutchinson had to read William Shakespeare’s plays – and she never understood why.
It just didn’t seem relevant, she said.
“Now I’m prioritising reading M?ori authors more often as we never got to study any NZ literature at school.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 1:37 pm

It’s been two years since 51 intelligence agents interfered with an election — they still won’t apologize

By Miranda Devine

Exactly two years ago, on October 19, 2020, one of the dirtiest tricks in electoral history was played on the American people by 51 former intelligence officials, who used the false alarm of “Russian interference” to stop Donald Trump winning a second term as president.

Using the institutional weight of their former esteemed roles, they signed a dishonest letter to mislead voters 15 days before the election, claiming that material from Hunter Biden’s laptop published by The New York Post “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

In their expert opinion “the Russians are involved in the Hunter Biden email issue.”

Russia was “trying to influence how Americans vote in this election . . . Moscow [will] pull out the stops to do anything possible to help Trump win and/or to weaken Biden should he win.

“A ‘laptop op’ fits the bill, as the publication of the emails are [sic] clearly designed to discredit Biden . . . It is high time that Russia stops interfering in our democracy.”

It was all a lie. Their letter was the culprit “interfering with democracy” in broad daylight.

Not one of the 51 had seen any material from the laptop or bothered asking for it, but their letter, instigated by, signed and delivered to Politico by Democratic operative and former John Brennan aide Nick Shapiro, killed the story stone dead. It got candidate Joe Biden off the hook for the corrupt influence peddling scheme his family had been running through the eight years of his vice presidency.

The shameful letter was used by Joe Biden three days later, on October 22, to deflect Trump’s attack in their last debate.

“There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plan . . . Four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage . . . You know his character. You know my character. You know my reputation is for honor and telling the truth . . . The character of the country is on the ballot.”

Biden dismissed as a Kremlin smear all the evidence that was on his son’s laptop of dirty money from China and Russia, of all his meetings with Hunter’s overseas business partners, and all the lies he had told about his involvement in Hunter’s business deals.

The letter, like the Steele Dossier and Russia collusion hoax peddled by many of the signatories, has helped fuel a moral panic about Russia in recent years which now has heightened the risk of nuclear war.

As well as sharing their Trump derangement, the Dirty 51 sit on the same boards and think tanks, speak at the same events or liberal TV shows, write for the same publications, pal around with the same journalists, retweet each other’s “Slava Ukraini” or Mar-a-Lago memes, share hawkish views about regime change in Russia and are remarkably sanguine about the prospect of nuclear war.

You would think since so many have been outed for their involvement in the (non-existent) weapons of mass destruction intelligence disaster that justified the Iraq war, not to mention secret prisons, torture, warrantless eavesdropping and the bulk collection of Americans’ data, that they might have learned some humility.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2022 1:39 pm

Only Gays, Trans, Women and Abo’s need apply.

We don’t have the sklilled workers in anyhere like the numbers required, so they’ll have to be brought in from overseas. And signed up to the relevant unions before they’ve even set foot on a worksite.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 1:40 pm

Zyconoclastsays:
October 20, 2022 at 1:37 pm
Thou art ‘boring as sh1t’: Is Shakespeare relevant to NZ in 2022?

Enjoy

Upstart Crow

duncanm
duncanm
October 20, 2022 1:44 pm

Thorpe

Despite her staff’s urging, Senator Thorpe did not tell Mr Bandt about her relationship with Mr Martin, the Greens leader saying he “wasn’t aware of who Mr Martin was, or that he and Senator Thorpe were known to each other” until the ABC asked questions.

Three eminent experts on integrity — barristers Bret Walker SC, Geoffrey Watson SC and former NSW Supreme Court Justice Anthony Whealy KC — have separately told the ABC that Senator Thorpe’s failure to disclose her involvement with Mr Martin was of concern.

“The fact that members of the Senator’s staff recognised the risk shows just how serious it was; the fact that those concerns were rebuffed is a concern — if all was well it would have been passed straight to Mr Bandt who could deal with it transparently,” Mr Watson, a former ICAC senior counsel said.

warned, told it was an issue, “nah stuff it”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 1:46 pm

The FBI Agents Association rewarded agents who took a knee in front of BLM, proving the rot isn’t just at the top

The FBI Agents Association bills itself as “dedicated to advancing and safeguarding the careers, economic interests, conditions of employment and welfare of FBI agents and retired FBI agents.” Founded in 1981, the nonprofit boasts 14,000 members — including 90% of the current agent workforce

— and once enjoyed almost universal appeal and respect among them. Once.

With outrageous, political decisions by its board, it has sullied itself just as James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Kevin Clinesmith annihilated the top law-enforcement agency’s reputation during the 2016 Russiagate hoax.

FBI executive management lauded on-duty agents who knelt before Black Lives Matter protesters at the height of the George Floyd unrest and riots for their “de-escalation” efforts, The Washington Times recently reported. A whistleblower said the counterterrorism special agent in charge of the Washington, DC, field office even hugged each of them after the June 4, 2020, incident. While not all the “presence patrol” agents assigned to the scene — which included the Supreme Court and the National Archives — “took a knee” in a show of solidarity or an act of cowardice and capitulation, at least seven did.

And what was the FBI Agents Association’s response to this embarrassing gesture? Well, as the paper reported and FBI insiders confirmed to me, the organization rewarded the kneelers with a $100 “attaboy” — or what it describes as gift cards of “modest value.”

Shocking and appalling on its face, looked at in a larger context, this disgusting decision proves the rot and decay at the FBI is not singularly the domain of some senior officials.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 1:53 pm

Johannesburg – Dis-Chem Pharmacies says it stands by an internal memo in which it placed a moratorium on the appointment of white staff in the company.

Ekscom – South African Electricity Commission – eased all whites out of senior management positions over ten years ago, in the name of “Black empowerment.” When the whole electricity grid turned to shyte, the whites were asked to come back and sort out the mess.

To a man, they refused.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2022 1:54 pm

Those West Australian cheesers thought they had the Shield match in the bag after batting first at the Junction Oval and making 466.

That was until the Vics went out and made 4/616 declared. Harris 111, Harper 132 not out and Peter Handscomb 281 red inks.

Then they put WA back in. They are 3/19. Glorious.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2022 2:01 pm

Lidia Thorpe dated ex-bikie boss while on law enforcement panel
The Greens senator has admitted to dating ex-Rebel bikie Dean Martin, and failed to disclose the relationship at a time she received confidential briefings on bikie gangs and organised crime.

GAOL.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 2:03 pm

Johannesburg – Dis-Chem Pharmacies says it stands by an internal memo in which it placed a moratorium on the appointment of white staff in the company.

White graduates of the School of Mines, in Johannesburg – an institution widely regarded as one of the best in the world – are emptying rubbish bins to earn a living.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 20, 2022 2:08 pm

Eyrie says:
October 18, 2022 at 5:20 pm

Jeremy Shapiro, author of the article “We are on the path to Nuclear War” is either drunk, drugged or just insane.

Agreed.
The Russians won’t lose and won’t use nukes. The hammer is about to come down.

This comment from a couple of days ago has stuck in my mind, probably because of its similarity to this verse:

Jeremiah 50:23

“How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!”

“Hammer” in Jeremiah’s verse is used as a noun rather than a verb. The “hammer of the earth” is an idiom to describe a nation which acts as the world’s policeman.

Jeremiah 50:12

Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.

This nation was the hindermost of the nations, i.e., the greatest and final super-power nation, its demise will usher in a motley collection of nations to fill the power vacuum though they end up going to war amongst themselves. Note that it has a “mother” nation.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Zyconoclast says: October 20, 2022 at 1:37 pm
Thou art ‘boring as sh1t’: Is Shakespeare relevant to NZ in 2022?
Every year in high school, Sasha Hutchinson had to read William Shakespeare’s plays – and she never understood why.
It just didn’t seem relevant, she said.
“Now I’m prioritising reading M?ori authors more often as we never got to study any NZ literature at school.”

Conversation last week with girl who is school captain & also likely the smartest kid in the primary school:
Conversation drifted to where I said something about Lachlan Macquarie, as in Governor Macquarie, “….but you know who he is anyway

Blank look.

Delved further. She was unable to name even one of the explorers, though recognised when I mentioned them, the names “Burke & Wills” – however she was unable to name them unpromoted, or say why they were well known. Had I said Burke & Wills were famous soldiers who performed great feats in WWII she’d have believed me.

She was able to name Eddie Mabo et al & became animated when discussion turned to indigenous dispossession. Her eyes lit up, this was something she’d heard of & was able to hold her end of a discussion, albeit briefly, as she’d never heard a dissenting opinion & was lost for words when I presented (for argument’s sake) an opposite viewpoint to everything she’d been taught.

JMH
JMH
October 20, 2022 2:14 pm

Dotsays:
October 20, 2022 at 2:01 pm

Lidia Thorpe dated ex-bikie boss while on law enforcement panel
The Greens senator has admitted to dating ex-Rebel bikie Dean Martin, and failed to disclose the relationship at a time she received confidential briefings on bikie gangs and organised crime.

GAOL.

One would hope but as we all know, the bitch will not even be yanked off the public teat. She should be expelled from Parliament.

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 2:14 pm

Sal, we need to have more conversations like this with children.

Cats and Kittehs – make it your business to have them. You know how to make it entertaining too, unlike their brain dead teachers.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 20, 2022 2:15 pm

It’s getting a bit rocky here on board as we’re battling high winds. People are wobbling and swaying down the corridors. Not very good for dancing, so I have retreated and left Hairy in the rhythm and blues bar where he can wobble his somewhat alcohol assisted sway back here in an hour. The night before last there was a huge electrical storm at sea; very dramatic to watch and the thunder is so loud as it rips unimpeded over the ocean. We’ve just heard a beaut guitarist on electric guitar backed by an acoustic band in the main stage theatre: lots of Latin music, and a finish with a Spanish gypsy dance.
Rabz, you would have loved the fingerwork on display by this talented musician. Standing ovation.

Meant to mention that the Franciscan Priest told everyone at today’s gathering that the Oaxaca people are noted for their total devotion to Our Lady. I noticed a shrine with a large Black Madonna in it with a much smaller Jesus on the side. They also seemed to have large free-standing brown bathtubs in the churches and I wondered if they did immersive baptisms in tubs such as I saw extant still in the sixth century monastery we visited in Greece. Forgot to ask.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 2:19 pm

Cats and Kittehs – make it your business to have them. You know how to make it entertaining too, unlike their brain dead teachers.

Said “brain dead teachers” showed the film “Rabbit Proof Fence” so many times that the students lost all interest.

“You do know that your great grandfather was farming on the “Rabbit Proof Fence” at the time that film was set, and he never mentioned three Aboriginal girls, or a police party in pursuit..”

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2022 2:19 pm

Neonatal deaths investigation
Dr. John Campbell

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2022 2:21 pm

Nearly finished Kurt Schlichter’s latest ” Inferno”. Few political groupings escape his humour unscathed.
He also manages to point out the flaw in the Starship Troopers scenario where only veterans get to vote and serve on juries. Most people don’t care about either so a relatively small number of people are stuck with being called up and defending the polity.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 2:22 pm

Lidia Thorpe quits Greens leadership role
Greg Brown
GREG BROWN

Greens senator Lidia Thorpe has resigned as the party’s deputy leader in the Senate over her relationship with a former bikie.

Greens leader Adam Bandt, pictured above, said he requested she resign from the position, after not disclosing the relationship while sitting on the joint parliamentary law enforcement committee.

But she will remain as the party’s spokeswoman for First Nations issues.

Mr Bandt said he was satisfied Senator Thorpe had not leaked any confidential information to former Rebels president Dean Martin.

“Of course I will consider further action if those facts change but that is what I have been told at the moment,” he said.

“I except her to now reflect on this judgement and now that she is not in the leadership team, to reflect on how to show better judgement in the future.”

Senator Thorpe has confirmed she briefly Mr Martin and failed to disclose the relationship at the time despite working on the joint parliamentary law enforcement committee in which she received confidential briefings about bikie gangs and organised crime.

Mr Bandt said Senator Thorpe will need to show “better judgement” but reiterated that no breach of confidence had occurred.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2022 2:22 pm

Lidia Thorpe dated ex-bikie boss while on law enforcement panel
The Greens senator has admitted to dating ex-Rebel bikie Dean Martin …

Everybody …
Loves somebody …
Sometime.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 2:22 pm

The Greens senator has admitted to dating ex-Rebel bikie Dean Martin, and failed to disclose the relationship

She’ll probably end up as Prime Minister, shacked up with her hairdresser.

johanna
johanna
October 20, 2022 2:22 pm

That Lidia Thorpe is a card! The Greens must be thrilled that she was catapulted into the Senate.

Latest is that she is pals with, and briefly ‘dated’ (i.e. screwed) a bikie while being a member of a Senate committee getting briefings about bikie crime:

In August 2021 during a remote sitting of parliament, one of the staffers decided to confront Senator Thorpe about the relationship.

Confidential law enforcement committee briefing documents had arrived at the Senator’s Melbourne office, detailing how the AFP monitors outlaw motorcycle gangs.

This staffer said Senator Thorpe had come into the office after Question Time that day and told the staffer she had just been with Mr Martin in the park across the road.

The staffer perceived a risk in Senator Thorpe receiving confidential information while being in an undisclosed relationship with Mr Martin, with whom she had been with just hours earlier.

In a work diary entry dated August 25 last year, the staffer wrote of the confrontation with Senator Thorpe: “My advice to Senator is that she must speak to leader’s office, that she is at extreme risk of being extorted, particularly if someone finds out”.

and

The staffers say they are speaking out because they believe the Greens leadership has not followed its own rules for handling complaints against senators, and that the party must hold itself to a higher standard.

One told the ABC: “The thing with being holier than thou is that you have to live your values, there’s no option for you but to do the right thing.”

Sing it, sister! 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 20, 2022 2:23 pm

Hairy’s just arrived back in and said the drummer was knocked off his chair by the latest big sway, and crashed half of his drums onto the floor in a big commotion. The over-eighties on the floor who have been living it up bigtime each night casting off their masks and tossing away their zimmer frames have now retired for the night, so he tells me. A Scotsman in the lift who was one of the main exuberants mentioned that he’d had a hip replacement last month and was living it up now while he could.

Hairy and I will have a dance up there soon but will wait for calmer waters.
We have some serious dance moves to make when we get going. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2022 2:23 pm

Thou art ‘boring as sh1t’: Is Shakespeare relevant to NZ in 2022?

Macbeth: Don’t knock off the boss and be a greedy guts because your missus is in your ear all the time about perceived status.

Romeo and Juliet: Nobody cares in the end what your families think. Also, don’t knock yourself OR appear to have knocked yourself.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 2:25 pm

Nearly finished Kurt Schlichter’s latest ” Inferno”.

Bought it and the previous one this morning. Next on the list to read in case Amazon gets cute.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2022 2:25 pm

Henry V: Man up, show some sack, and get out there and smack the French.

Words to live by, then and now.

JMH
JMH
October 20, 2022 2:29 pm

Greens senator Lidia Thorpe has resigned as the party’s deputy leader in the Senate over her relationship with a former bikie.

One more resignation to go, Lydsie. Make it today as well.

Frank
Frank
October 20, 2022 2:29 pm

“She should be expelled from Parliament.”

Dastyari got two chances (we know of) for his dalliances with the CCP. She is probably pretty safe.

JMH
JMH
October 20, 2022 2:30 pm

*That should be Lidsie*

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 2:32 pm

Lol. I was thinking more “Wham! Bam! Thank you Ma’am!”. 😀

bespoke
bespoke
October 20, 2022 2:34 pm

Im not a Cat or Kitten.

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 2:35 pm

Titus Andronicus – kill everybody. Just to be sure.

Othello – if you leave home with a clean hankie, make sure you don’t lose it.

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 2:36 pm

Okay. If you’re a smiling yellow M&M wearing sunglasses, make sure you have interesting historical conversations with children.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 20, 2022 2:37 pm

Anyone with an ounce of integrity would resign immediately but not Lidia.
Any party leader with a sense of probity would demand her resignation but not Adam.
They will remain the party most voted for by ABC staff. Says it all really.

bespoke
bespoke
October 20, 2022 2:38 pm

Chuckle!.

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 2:39 pm

Henry IV Pt 1 – if you must go pubbing, beware the company you keep.

JC
JC
October 20, 2022 2:39 pm

Breath of fresh air coming from the iceberg.

Feminist foreign policy lol.

Sweden will abandon its signature “feminist” foreign policy to pursue its national interests more assertively, the country’s new top diplomat has said.

For eight years successive centre-left governments have put gender equality and women’s rights at the centre of their approach to international relations, reinventing the notion of Sweden as a “moral superpower”.

This has involved lobbying for measures to promote girls’ education, encouraging more women into the workforce and positions of influence and tackling violence against girls and women.

and what’s coming next?

Mr Billstrom said his main priorities would be NATO accession and European and Nordic-Baltic co-operation.

The Times

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2022 2:40 pm

Captain Obvious moment.

Lidia Thorpe’s latest contretemps is a very transparent ‘look over there’ attempt to camouflage a plainly apparent reality.

And that reality is she’s a dude. Just look at it.

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 2:40 pm

Julius Caesar – mid March is ideal for chakra re-alignment

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 2:41 pm

2m ago
‘Concerning’: PM calls on Bandt to reveal what he knew
Jess Malcolm
JESS MALCOLM

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese visits flood affected Deloraine in Tasmania with and at Deloraine Football club and SES volunteers

Anthony Albanese has called on Greens Leader Adam Bandt to reveal whether he knew anything about Greens Leader Lidia Thorpe’s relationship with an ex-bikie while she sat on the joint parliamentary law enforcement committee.

Speaking in Perth, the Prime Minister said the reports were “concerning” and that Australians would expect the nation’s parliament to have integrity and follow proper process.

“My understanding is that Senator Thorpe has been dismissed as the deputy leader of the Greens political party in the Senate,” Senator Thorpe said.

“I think that these are concerning revelations to believe that the oversight processes over the legal system will be maintained in a way, that ensures integrity and ensures that any information which is given there is kept on a confidential basis.

“I note that Senator Thorpe has said that this is an error of judgement, that is the least description that I would put to it. And Adam Bandt has to explain what his office knew and what he knew any fee wasn’t informed about these issues given his office was informed, why that is the case.”

Frank
Frank
October 20, 2022 2:43 pm

And that reality is she’s a dude.

But that means the bike boss would be a homo.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 20, 2022 2:45 pm

Where’s our cosmopolitan bon vivant Cohenite?
I’d say Lidia might be able to do a cute owl after long hours pumping with Deano.

shatterzzz
October 20, 2022 2:46 pm

Adam Bandt has to explain
Excellent chutzpah! .. Luigi deluding himself into believing folks will sit up and take notice of him ..!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2022 2:46 pm

What’s taking the jury so long?
Obviously some doubts being raised…

View from the cheap seats; it’s likely a conflict between:

• He’s a lying creep;
• Why else would he have taken her there?;
• It’s a massive political cover up – look at Reynolds still doing it – even Scummo knew the truth about it, and he had the decency to apologise.

Vs

• No evidence;
• She can’t remember anything;
• She’s lied her head off, destroyed and/or deleted awkward evidence, and is angling for fame and fortune.

Hard to see closure.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 2:47 pm

I always love it when the left eats its own.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2022 2:48 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 20, 2022 2:48 pm

The Jeff Bezos Post constantly reminds us that “Democracy Dies in Darkness.”

The man works very hard to keep things in the dark and never let them see the light of day.

shatterzzz
October 20, 2022 2:49 pm

What’s taking the jury so long?
Access to a minister’s drinks cabinet, “free” food from the Prime Ministerial kitchen ..!

Winston Smith
October 20, 2022 2:49 pm

rickw:

The more reports that get written, that analyse events, and that fall on the side of what was obvious at the time.
The fucking angrier I get.
Fired for being right.

Sounds like you have a case for suing the pricks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 2:55 pm

3m ago
Greens ‘hypocritical’ over Thorpe bikie relationship
Owen Leonard

Opposition Treasury spokesman Angus Taylor has called out the Greens for being “hypocritical” amid the Lidia Thorpe scandal.

Mr Taylor said the fact Ms Thorpe was seeing a former bikie boss while on a parliamentary committee investigating bikie operations looked like a conflict of interest and breach of integrity – something he said the Greens were always eager to preach on.

“The Greens have always been keen to lecture us on integrity. But you know that they would be hypocritical if they didn’t take appropriate action,” Mr Taylor, pictured above, said.

“They talk a big game on avoiding conflicts of interest. And when it comes to action, it seems that this is exactly the opposite of their rhetoric.”

Razey
Razey
October 20, 2022 2:57 pm

Surprised Thorpe just didn’t make up a fake rape case.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 3:06 pm

Julius Caesar – mid March is ideal for chakra re-alignment

Merchant of Venice – Always collect on your debts.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2022 3:09 pm

Razey:

Only Gays, Trans, Women and Abo’s need apply.

Yep, that’s how entryism works, and why the great unwashed masses will never get a say in the laws and rules that dominate our society.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 3:12 pm

Lydia Thorpe is a low life whose disgraceful conduct has brought the senate into disrepute, here’s a smidgen of some of her disgraceful conduct…

1. Refusing to recite the oath to the Queen.

2. Calling Senator Alex Antic a racist.

3. Shouting at Senator Holly Hughes, during a debate on disability, that “”Well at least I keep my legs closed,” Senator Hughes has an autistic son.

4. Yet, only a few weeks ago, the senate Green slime organised a senate censure motion against Pauline Hanson. Why, because on social media, Hanson had said that Mehreen Faruqi “should piss off back to Pakistan”. Not an unreasonable request as far as I’m concerned. After this attempted censure of Hanson, Labor and the always stupid fucking Liberals called for more “civility” in parliament. Now that’s chutzpah.

5. And now this, “Senator Thorpe has confirmed she briefly Mr Martin and failed to disclose the relationship at the time despite working on the joint parliamentary law enforcement committee in which she received confidential briefings about bikie gangs and organised crime.”…..words fail me but I shouldn’t be surprised, we’re dealing with the Greens here.

So, will Labor, the Coalition and independent senators move a censure motion against Thorpe? You know, like they did against a certain person in February 2020. Oh but that’s right, that “certain person” back in 2020 is a conservative, so she’s fair game.

What’s worrying and disturbing here is not that Thorpe is in parliament, disgracing it every day. Nope, it’s the fact that some in the electorate, particularly young people, vote for Thorpe and her fellow Green slime.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2022 3:13 pm

Is it possible for Lidia Thorpe to plumb more depths of ineptitude? Why yes, yes it is

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
October 20, 2022 3:19 pm

Looks like federal ICAC just found it’s first case, didn’t it?

mem
mem
October 20, 2022 3:21 pm

Nineteen Republican attorneys general announced an investigation into six Wall Street firms regarding their involvement with the United Nations Net-Zero Banking Alliance.
The nineteen attorneys general served Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and Wells Fargo with civil investigative demands, which reportedly act as a subpoena, asking for documents relating to the companies’ involvement with the United Nations (UN) Net-Zero Banking Alliance. More here https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/19/19-ags-announce-investigation-into-six-wall-street-firms-over-esg-investing/

bons
bons
October 20, 2022 3:23 pm

I’d love to met Thorpe’s bikie dude.
That’s a man of steel right there.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 20, 2022 3:23 pm

As my for my f*cking family, they are dead to me. The staggeringly stupid hysterical gullible mongrel nazi bastards.

Quite – in my case, my immediate family are with me (wife n kids) but the rest are in the matrix. There’s nothing further I can do for them healthwise, and I have a prepared response for them when they come seeking financial salvation once the inevitable financial SHTF happens –
Yes you ARE family, yes I did try to warn you numerous times, no you didn’t listen, when I was working at Christmas and Easter doing locus in the bush, you were skiing in Japan.

No I will not save your lifestyles,but I will, perhaps save your *lives* – come talk again after you have sold the boat, the landcruiser and the mansion.

shatterzzz
October 20, 2022 3:24 pm

Dusty & Lidia .. toss-up who has the ruff-est head ..!
https://ibb.co/DLPDHW2

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 3:31 pm

Test

Razey
Razey
October 20, 2022 3:32 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
October 20, 2022 at 3:12 pm
Lydia Thorpe is a low life whose disgraceful conduct has brought the senate into disrepute, here’s a smidgen of some of her disgraceful conduct…

Dean Martin has terrible taste in women.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2022 3:34 pm

A truly creative opposition Senate leader would be out there buying leather bikie jackets to wear in the chamber at the next opportunity.

calli
calli
October 20, 2022 3:35 pm

Server Error!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 20, 2022 3:36 pm

The Greens are not a serious political party. They are a freak show where people park their protest vote on the Left and provide a living for about a dozen otherwise unemployable people.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2022 3:38 pm

Dr F earlier.

View from the cheap seats; it’s likely a conflict between:

• He’s a lying creep;
• Why else would he have taken her there?;
• It’s a massive political cover up – look at Reynolds still doing it – even Scummo knew the truth about it, and he had the decency to apologise.

Vs

• No evidence;
• She can’t remember anything;
• She’s lied her head off, destroyed and/or deleted awkward evidence, and is angling for fame and fortune.

Hard to see closure.

Yes, I think that would be the general dynamic.
There may well be a pool of people in the middle trying to methodically go through all the pros and cons but I can’t see them getting a word in edgewise.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2022 3:39 pm
bons
bons
October 20, 2022 3:40 pm

Mentioning the Merchant of Venice brought a smile of remembrance.
In first year high, we had a passionate literature teacher who was also totally humourless and made the joys of great writing painful for us.
She had a particular set against our class roughie, a young surfie kid who repaid her contemp whenever possible.
On the fateful day she pounced on him and had him quote the section of Shylock’s defence speech that we had been assigned to learn.
“If you prick me, do I not breed”!
We probably only vaguely understood what it meant, but the look on her face has provided decades of joyous memories.

JC
JC
October 20, 2022 3:42 pm

H B Bear says:
October 20, 2022 at 3:36 pm

The Greens are not a serious political party. They are a freak show where people park their protest vote on the Left and provide a living for about a dozen otherwise unemployable people.

Dunno, but I disagree Bear. I think they’re very serious. The bald little c (Bandt) is a very committed Marxist wanting to see the end of capitalism. The rest are imbecilic zero-“hydrocarbonists” because they’re told oil, gas and coal are evil. We need to take them very seriously and destroy them.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 3:43 pm

“The Greens are not a serious political party. They are a freak show where people park their protest vote on the Left and provide a living for about a dozen otherwise unemployable people.”

I might have agreed with that description a decade ago, but I now think it’s too simplistic. Given their results at the last few federal elections, they are a serious political force, albeit a menacing, sinister, far-left political force and they are clearly growing in power and influence, from local government all the way through to federal parliament. We ignore them at our peril.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 3:44 pm

“JCsays:
October 20, 2022 at 3:42 pm”

Snap JC and you’ve articulated it better.

cohenite
October 20, 2022 3:47 pm

Munni, marvelous munni in a never ending near unaccountable stream in perpetuity.
Our new feudal overlords, freed from the constraints of needing to make a living will surely lead us to the sunlit uplands this time!

The hunchback’s treaty with the shades of grey grifters means that when thorpey gets the boot for spreading her legs for the bikie she will fall into an executive role at the new treaty headquarters.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 3:49 pm

At the next federal election, the Greens will win Macnamara in Melbourne.

When Albo and Plibbers go, the Greens will win their respective electorates of Grayndler and Sydney.

The Greens must be taken seriously.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 20, 2022 3:51 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, a staffer went to that irredeemable prick Bandt’s office with this Thorpe story and was told to go away? If so, Thorpe isn’t the only one that should be tendering resignations.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 20, 2022 3:53 pm

There is nothing quite like the astonishment of a progressive who spends much of their time demanding high standards of their enemies when someone says that they has failed to do so themselves.

To them it is a non sequitur.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2022 3:59 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, a staffer went to that irredeemable prick Bandt’s office with this Thorpe story and was told to go away? If so, Thorpe isn’t the only one that should be tendering resignation

Bandt is hotly denying such a claim.

Frank
Frank
October 20, 2022 4:00 pm

Dusty & Lidia .. toss-up who has the ruff-est head ..!

The jury is in, it’s Lidia.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:01 pm

What’s worrying and disturbing here is not that Thorpe is in parliament, disgracing it every day. Nope, it’s the fact that some in the electorate, particularly young people, vote for Thorpe and her fellow Green slime.

As I understand it, she was dropped into the Senate without a vote. And so go after the people who dropped her in it as well. They are all at fault.

The Senate is a farce anyway. A House of Review? Don’t make me larf’ too much………………….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

For a kid to say after studying Shakespeare, that he is boring & irrelevant … points straight to an extremely poor quality teacher.

johanna
johanna
October 20, 2022 4:04 pm

Buccaneer says:
October 20, 2022 at 3:19 pm

Looks like federal ICAC just found it’s first case, didn’t it?

No prizes for guessing the result.

While Senator Thorpe committed some clerical errors and momentary lapses of judgement, no criminal activity has been found. Case closed.

I mean, it’s not as if she accepted a bottle of wine or anything.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:06 pm

ne day a man decided to retire. He booked himself on a Caribbean cruise and proceeded to have the time of his life, that is, until the ship sank…

He soon found himself on an island with no other people, no supplies, nothing, only bananas and coconuts.

After about four months, he is lying on the beach one day when the most gorgeous woman he has ever seen rows up to the shore.

In disbelief, he asks “Where did you come from? How did you get here?” She replies “I rowed over from the other side of the island where I landed when my cruise ship sank”. “Amazing” he notes. “You were really lucky to have a row boat wash up with you”. “Oh, this thing?” explains the woman. “I made the boat out of some raw material I found on the island. The oars were whittled from gum tree branches. I wove the bottom from palm tree branches, and the sides and stern came from a huge tree”.

“But, where did you get the tools?” “Oh, that was no problem” replied the woman. ” On the south side of the island, a very unusual stratum of alluvial rock is exposed. I found that if I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into ductile iron and I used that to make tools and used the tools to make the hardware”.

The guy is stunned.

“Let’s row over to my place and I’ll give you a tour” she says .

So, after a short time of rowing, she soon docks the boat at a small wharf. As the man looks to shore, he nearly falls off the boat. Before him is a long stone walk leading to a cabin and tree house.

While the woman ties up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, the man can only stare ahead, dumb struck. As they walk into the house, she says casually “It’s not much, but I call it home. Please sit down”. “Would you like a drink?”

“No! No thank you” the man blurts out, still dazed. “I can’t take another drop of coconut juice”. “Oh, it’s not coconut juice” winks the woman. “I have a still. How would you like a Tropical Spritz?” Trying to hide his continued amazement, the man accepts, and they sit down on her couch to talk.

After they exchange their individual survival stories, the woman announces “I’m going to slip into something more comfortable. Would you like to take a shower and shave? There’s a razor in the bathroom cabinet upstairs.

No longer questioning anything, the man goes upstairs into the bathroom. There, in the cabinet is a razor made from a piece of tortoise bone. Two shells honed to a hollow ground edge are fastened on to its end inside a swivel mechanism. “This woman is amazing” he muses. “What’s next?”

When he returns, she greets him wearing nothing but some small flowers on tiny vines, each strategically positioned, she smelled faintly of gardenias. She then beckons for him to sit down next to her.

“Tell me” she begins suggestively, slithering closer to him “We’ve both been out here for many months. You must have been lonely. When was the last time you played around? She stares into his eyes.

He can’t believe what he’s hearing.

“You mean…” he swallows excitedly as tears start to form in his eyes “You’ve built a golf course too?”

dopey
dopey
October 20, 2022 4:06 pm

Some Kiwis reckon Shakespeare is imperialism. Where did rugby union come from?

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:09 pm

It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

– Thomas Sowell

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 20, 2022 4:09 pm

People parachuted into the Senate to fill casual vacancies are inevitably the worst of the worst.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2022 4:11 pm

“As I understand it, she was dropped into the Senate without a vote. And so go after the people who dropped her in it as well. They are all at fault.”

Except in May of this year Thorpe was re-elected, she had top billing on the Greens senate ticket for Victoria.

In the state of Victoria alone, the Greens received 529,429 first preference votes in the senate, which equates to 13.85%, and they increased their vote in the senate alone by over 3%.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2022 4:14 pm

Eyrie:

Nearly finished Kurt Schlichter’s latest ” Inferno”.

I ought it when it came out but haven’t got around to reading it.
The delayed gratification is worth it.
Currently reading Ira Trabankins “We Knew They Were Coming”. He has a unique writing style that most find irritating, but nevertheless it’s worth the plot lines.

jupes
jupes
October 20, 2022 4:14 pm

The Greens are not a serious political party.

Oh no, they are very serious. Effective too. Even the Libs and Nationals have legislated their policies.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:16 pm

It’s simple, if it jiggles, it’s fat.

– Arnold Schwarzenegger

johanna
johanna
October 20, 2022 4:16 pm

flyingduk says:
October 20, 2022 at 3:23 pm

As my for my f*cking family, they are dead to me. The staggeringly stupid hysterical gullible mongrel nazi bastards.

Quite – in my case, my immediate family are with me (wife n kids) but the rest are in the matrix.

It’s rare that there isn’t a single member of your family that is ‘dead to you.’

No harm in being selective.

Rabz, surely there is a chink in the armour somewhere?

132andBush
132andBush
October 20, 2022 4:17 pm

Farmer Gez says:
October 20, 2022 at 2:37 pm

Anyone with an ounce of integrity would resign immediately but not Lidia.
Any party leader with a sense of probity would demand her resignation but not Adam.
They will remain the party most voted for by ABC staff. Says it all really.

Full marks to the bloke for getting the dumb bitch into the sack while she was on that committee.
I’m sure all the pillow talk was about the freedom of the road etc etc etc.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:18 pm

A young couple dies in a car wreck on the way to their wedding.

They arrive in heaven where they are welcomed by Saint Peter. Before they are admitted to heaven they ask if they can get married in heaven.

Peter scratches his chin. “Hmm, I’m not sure. Let me find out”. He goes into heaven to find someone who might know.

Well he’s gone for a very long time, days at least. The young couple were starting to worry when Peter finally returns. He looks very flustered.

“Yes, you can get married” he says.

So the couple go into heaven, get married, and enjoy the afterlife.

However not long after they begin to realize how terrible eternity with the other person would be and decide to divorce. They go to Saint Peter and asks if they can get a divorce in Heaven. Peter throws down his quill and growls in consternation.

“Do you know how long it took me to find a priest up here?! How fucking hard do you think it’ll be finding a lawyer!?”

shatterzzz
October 20, 2022 4:19 pm

“As I understand it, she was dropped into the Senate without a vote. And so go after the people who dropped her in it as well. They are all at fault.”

yep, whoever at Greens Vic selected her at no.1 guaranteed her election … most folk don’t vote on individual selection with the Senate paper but for the party overall ….!

shatterzzz
October 20, 2022 4:23 pm

Anyone with an ounce of integrity would resign immediately

Woof, woof! .. the dayz of giving up the freebie troughin’ voluntarily are long, long gone .. they don’t try to get elected nowadayz to serve the vote-herd but to service their own lifestyle(s) ..!

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:24 pm

If we don’t end war, war will end us.

– H. G. Wells

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:27 pm

A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her shower when the doorbell rings. The wife quickly wraps herself in a towel and runs downstairs. When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next door neighbour. Before she says a word, Bob says “I’ll give you $800 to drop that towel”. After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked in front of Bob. After a few seconds, Bob hands her $800 dollars and leaves. The woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs. When she gets to the bathroom, her husband asks “Who was that?” “It was Bob from next door” she replies. “Great!” the husband says “Did he say anything about the $800 he owes me?”

johanna
johanna
October 20, 2022 4:30 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
October 20, 2022 at 4:03 pm

For a kid to say after studying Shakespeare, that he is boring & irrelevant … points straight to an extremely poor quality teacher.

Nonsense.

I never ‘got into’ Shakespeare and never will. Yes, I admire his use of the language and all that – he was a genius. But, I find his plays absurd, although I like the poems.

At school, we had a choice, thankfully, between Shakespeare and other stuff for Level 1 English.

We did The Summer of the Seventeenth Doll and and an Ibsen play as options.

I’m not sure that forcing Shakespeare on everyone is a winning strategy.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 20, 2022 4:34 pm

I had a squiz at Thorpe’s Wikipedia page.

It describes her as, among other things, a business woman. But nothing in her CV indicates anything other than taxpayer funded government bodies or those remora like quangos like NAIDOC. I suspect writing cheques and barking out demands is what she thinks business is about.

Anyway, it said that she had been declared bankrupt (monetising her morality?) but she pleaded that she had been bankrupted by dealing with an abusive and violent ex-husband. It also noted that the husband had accepted her version of events, but this being Wiki I can imagine the people curating her page would put that in and quickly weed out anything not flattering. An abusive ex makes her a ‘survivor’ and also gives her fem-creds that no woman who managed to find a non-abusive husband could never hope for.

Lidia would be an authority on marriage while the woman in a happy relationship would be expected to shut up.

Of course, he may have been violent. If so, then we have her being attracted to one aggressive man, and now with the bikie I think we could assume a degree of aggressiveness there as well.

The cracks in her psychology might extend pretty deeply.

P
P
October 20, 2022 4:35 pm

A jury will continue their deliberations in Bruce Lehrmann’s rape trial on Friday.

It’s unknown how long the jury will deliberate before returning a verdict.

NCA NewsWire

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 20, 2022 4:38 pm

A whole day discussing Bruce and Brittany. I’ve got nothing to complain about.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2022 4:40 pm

If i was a HS teacher looking to interest kids in willy Shakespeare Id start with this little filmclip (with a brief background) and ask if any ‘aspiring rappers” could top it as a masterpiece of putdowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=101sKhH-lMQ

Then set a task for groups of 4/5 people to write as similar a backhanded praise/ burn and then pick one to give it as a speech.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 4:44 pm

Much preferred Shakespeare and Chaucer. Seventeenth Doll, Great Expectorations and Gatsby made me want to gnaw my own ankles.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2022 4:44 pm

H B Bearsays:
October 20, 2022 at 4:09 pm
People parachuted into the Senate to fill casual vacancies are inevitably the worst of the worst.

See also Parachute Keneally.

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:46 pm

Biden Releasing Millions in Oil Reserves Ahead of Midterms

From Armstrong Economics –

“The Saudis admitted that Biden asked them to hold off on the next OPEC+ vote until after the midterm elections. Now, Joe Biden is planning to release 15 million barrels of reserve oil to lower gas prices ahead of the midterms. The Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) was created in 1975 during a period of stagflation. The SPR reached full capacity during the Great Recession when it held 714 million barrels, which had then fallen from $190 to $59 per barrel.

A year ago, Biden announced that he would release 50 million barrels from the SPR. Not so coincidentally, this was when Biden’s approval plummeted for six consecutive months, and he was desperate to put a bandage on the energy crisis to save face. Biden released an additional 180 million barrels between April and September, blaming Putin. He is now releasing more oil from the reserves to briefly lower gas prices.

Even if the Republicans win in November, the Biden Administration can choose to replenish the stockpile, cause gas prices to spike, and then turn around and blame the new wave of Republicans in Congress. Then the Democrats can push the Green agenda and blame big oil for rising prices and demand everyone make changes without providing a viable alternative.

All of the policies put forth by this administration only consider the short-term. These policies are completely self-serving and manipulative. Let us see if they also officially admit we are in a recession AFTER the midterms.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/biden-releasing-millions-in-oil-reserves-ahead-of-midterms/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

duncanm
duncanm
October 20, 2022 4:49 pm
duncanm
duncanm
October 20, 2022 4:51 pm
Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:51 pm

What really matters is what you do with what you have.

– H. G. Wells

duncanm
duncanm
October 20, 2022 4:54 pm

The real irony with Thorpe is she has no idea that the bikie bloke took one for the team.

He had no romantic interests – it was purely business.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2022 4:56 pm

Lydia.
Proud Comanchero woman?

Johnny Rotten
October 20, 2022 4:56 pm

Hey Albo and Turtle Head Bowen, how many solar panels and Windmills are the Saudis putting up>

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2022 4:56 pm

For a kid to say after studying Shakespeare, that he is boring & irrelevant … points straight to an extremely poor quality teacher.
High School English lit seems designed to a) turn kids off English Lit b) turn kids off reading.
Shakespeare makes sense only after you got a fair bit more life experience than High School as does a lot of the other literature studied.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

johanna says: October 20, 2022 at 4:30 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
For a kid to say after studying Shakespeare, that he is boring & irrelevant … points straight to an extremely poor quality teacher.

Nonsense….
…I’m not sure that forcing Shakespeare on everyone is a winning strategy.

Crikey johanna.
Nonsense right back at you.
My point was not that Shakespeare should be compulsory, but that if taught properly at school, no pupil will go away saying Shakespeare is “boring” or “not relevant.

We dreaded it at school, up until we had to read it.
Wow! Chockers with violence, bloodthirsty despatching of enemies, treachery, mates turning on mates, etc.

Taught properly it was riveting, & chock-a-bloc with relevance to contemporary life.
Archaic phrasing notwithstanding.

Jorge
Jorge
October 20, 2022 4:59 pm

Anyone with an ounce of integrity would resign immediately but not Lidia.
Any party leader with a sense of probity would demand her resignation but not Adam.
They will remain the party most voted for by ABC staff. Says it all really.

While masquerading as the most honourable idealists with the highest of all standards they are just grubby political operators.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 20, 2022 4:59 pm

H. G. Wells did good with what he had. I wish we’d had Wells, Verne and Heinlein in English. I would’ve aced it instead of coming in the bottom third of the state.

So in tribute to the gentleman, here’s a song.

No one would believe…

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2022 5:00 pm

I thought Shakespeare was shit. Intellectual torture of kids.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 20, 2022 5:02 pm

bespokesays:
October 20, 2022 at 2:34 pm
Im not a Cat or Kitten.

I’m just Bloody Old, but Alive!

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2022 5:02 pm

We had a little bit of H.G. Wells and maybe Verne. Fortunately I discovered kids SF at age 11 and Heinlein/Asimov/Clarke/Anderson at 13.

Lysander
Lysander
October 20, 2022 5:02 pm

Going to be another day without a verdict by the look of things…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2022 5:06 pm

Not nearly enough Biggles on the curriculum, eh, what?

Chris
Chris
October 20, 2022 5:07 pm

Going to be another day without a verdict by the look of things…

OK I will pronounce one: drunken skanks in the workplace are not worth the trouble.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
October 20, 2022 5:08 pm

It says a lot about Thorpe that even those self-important windbags Watson KC and Whealey KC have criticized her – though of course, as she is from the left, only in the mildest of tut-tutting tones.

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