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JC
JC
November 8, 2022 5:47 pm

Mr Ed, signing a consent decree doesn’t equal fessing up as guilty. It’s the equivalent on Wall Street, of paying a fine to the SEC and neither admitting nor denying guilt.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 8, 2022 5:48 pm

“Only in a bungled multi-billion defence project would a government even try to hide a lazy $591 million in additional costs,” he said. “When we pay an extra $591 million for not building submarines, we lose those funds for public housing, schools or income relief.’’

Sorry, Albo, I’ll believe it when I see it.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews may have made a big mistake

THE Victorian Treasurer has denied a leaked report that found Premier Daniel Andrews stuffed up when he ditched the East West Link project.

Mr Andrews was accused of wasting $1.1 billion of federal funding when he scrapped the proposed 18km road to help relieve congestion and deal with population growth in Melbourne.

Mr Andrews created Infrastructure Victoria to get advice on other road priorities, but it seems it has backfired and the Herald Sun reports the body will release a report saying the East West Link is important to “meet Victoria’s infrastructure needs”.

Treasurer Tim Pallas denied the report and said the Labor government would never resurrect the dumped East West Link, despite Infrastructure Victoria’s support for the project.

The Victorian Government axed the toll road project when it won the 2014 election, ultimately spending $1.1 billion not to build it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 8, 2022 5:51 pm

Mr Ed, signing a consent decree doesn’t equal fessing up as guilty.
Yeah, I got that.
It’s the equivalent on Wall Street, of paying a fine to the SEC and neither admitting nor denying guilt.
If one of the conditions of the fine is being held in Contempt Of Court should the unadmitted behaviour reoccur, then yeah.
Otherwise, no.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 5:55 pm

WA fun police.

WA could banish fast-food outlets from being near schools in radical new plan to fix the state’s growing obesity crisis (8 Nov)

Fast-food outlets could see their hours slashed and radical new restrictions imposed on their locations as Western Australia floats ideas on how to tackle the state’s growing obesity epidemic.

Keeping fast-food away from schools was a key aspect of the report, as 86 per cent of schools in the state have at least one fast-food store within a 1km radius.

“Perth schools had an average of 1.8 fast food outlets located within 400m; 5.7 fast food outlets within 800m; and 8.1 fast food outlets within 1km,” the report said.

The report recommended changing planning laws to “limit unhealthy food outlets and to support access to healthy food options including near schools”.

Good luck with that. I recall when Dr Faustus described what happened at his school when the canteen was forced to sell ‘healthy options’ and nothing else. The kids decamped to the KFC just up the road and the canteen went bottom up. The new vendors then kept the healthy menu but quietly sold the good stuff from under the counter. Amazing how going against human nature never works.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 5:56 pm

OOOh! Rots of rocal anaesthetic in left jaw.
Good stuff, but now got the dwibbles.
I was told that pwobing the fiwwing wiff a needew may have helped wiff pain, but that was the dentists job…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 5:57 pm

Oops, sorry Diogenes not Faustus. I’m never good with tags.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 8, 2022 5:58 pm

Freya [as a child’s name] is popular with wokesters and the sort of people that buy Government bullshit unconditionally.
It’s from a Paul Gallico novel, i’ve forgotten which.
So, it’s not a unique name, she’ll hafta suck it up.
Penile/Vaginal sex, I’m guessin’ she wouldnae like that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 6:01 pm

Freya [as a child’s name] is popular with wokesters and the sort of people that buy Government bullshit unconditionally.

Grogarly, Q.C. has spoken!

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 6:02 pm

Thank God. We were all worried.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 6:05 pm

$275 cheaper electricity bills news.

Labor Party have been ‘straight forward’ with increased energy prices (8 Nov)

Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen says the Labor Party decided to be “straight forward” with the Australian people and point out the increased energy prices.

If Liberals had any ‘credibility’ they would ‘acknowledge’ they knew rates were going up (8 Nov)

Treasurer Jim Chalmers says if Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor had any “credibility”, he would acknowledge the rates started going up on the former government’s watch before the election.

Piss on me and tell me it’s raining eh? Sheesh lying liars lie then blame the other side for it.
I detest these creatures.

Makka
Makka
November 8, 2022 6:05 pm

WW3 dead ahead;

With the tenure of NATO’s current chief, Jens Stoltenberg, scheduled to end next fall, the jockeying among allies for who should replace him has begun in earnest, and the battle lines in the contest are already beginning to form, according to American officials familiar with the debate.

While the officials cautioned that these are early days, and very often the names that surface first do not survive the bargaining among NATO’s 30 members, they said one prime candidate has surfaced in Washington: Chrystia Freeland, 54, the Canadian-Ukrainian deputy prime minister and finance minister of Canada.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 6:09 pm

Bruce o”Newk:

Wasn’t the idea about the nuclear subs that they’d be long-range weapons to hold enemies at bay?
I wouldn’t say no to hydrogen bomb-tipped ICBMs, though, if that is what he has in mind.

ICBMs with MIRV’d 1 Gigatonne warheads. Turn China into an ash that muddies the Pacific if they try it on.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 8, 2022 6:10 pm

It’s more complicated then that. Often the election workers or watchers were legally not permitted in the election counting areas by the consent decree mentioned above.

It doesn’t really matter how closely the election counting areas are scrutinised if the votes are then fed into those vote counting machines. They can be pre-programmed to “homogenise” the votes to fortify the results.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 6:11 pm

Another post overnight

see here

https://qalerts.app/

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 6:14 pm

Custard

Has a single one of your predictions come true – of the ones you’ve posted here?

Zipster
November 8, 2022 6:29 pm

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/elections-map-rcp-projection.html

the senate is where they will put the greatest effort at cheating

Zipster
November 8, 2022 6:32 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 6:33 pm

Richard Marles has vowed the ADF will get long-range weapons to hold enemies at bay

Nuclear-armed Tomahawks would certainly make Oz a very hard target to take on.

If Labor sign up for those – and acquire them – I will buy Albo a beer. I think the money is safe.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 8, 2022 6:34 pm

FFS this “server error” is shit, Ill try just the headline, from the gruinaid.

Developing countries ‘will need $2tn a year in climate funding by 2030’
Report co-written by Nicholas Stern says figure required to switch away from fossil fuels and cope with extreme weather impacts

Zipster
November 8, 2022 6:39 pm

Victor Davis Hanson: FBI Should Be Broken Up
American Thought Leaders – The Epoch Times

Zipster
November 8, 2022 6:41 pm

China’s COVID-19 Curbs Hit Apple iPhone 14 Pro Orders; Call to Release Family Members in China
China in Focus – NTD
02:16 China’s COVID-19 curbs hit Apple Iphone 14 pro orders
04:06 Call to release family members in China
06:47 China expands nuclear energy, the West shies away
08:36 Canada: Chinese firms must divest for nat’l security
09:45 China lashes out at UK minister’s Taiwan visit
10:32 UK’s newcastle cuts ties with sister city in China
12:43 China donates to Solomon Islands days after Australia

Frank
Frank
November 8, 2022 6:42 pm

I wouldn’t say no to hydrogen bomb-tipped ICBMs, though, if that is what he has in mind.

A nuclear armed Rudd type strutting about the place is a bit of a worry though.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 8, 2022 6:44 pm

ABCcess watch… You couldnt read about it, whats the odds of Peter Fitzsimian being handed a prime time radio slot to advertise his new book on Long tan?

Incredible how often the same unflushable turds appear over and over again to treat the ABCs “no advertising products” rules like its Ned Beatty at a backwoods B&S and the girls didnt turn up.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 8, 2022 6:50 pm

Mr Andrews was accused of wasting $1.1 billion of federal funding when he scrapped the proposed 18km road to help relieve congestion and deal with population growth in Melbourne.

I don’t think that any federal funds were wasted for that failed project, it all came out of Victoria’s budget. Tony Abbott told Andrews that no federal funds would be provided if the CFMEU were associated with the project. Andrews then spat the dummy and the project was closed, and the Victorian government (not the Feds) had to cough up the cancellation costs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 6:54 pm

whats the odds of Peter Fitzsimian being handed a prime time radio slot to advertise his new book on Long tan?

The new book where they are already offering signed copies at no extra charge?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 6:54 pm

A nuclear armed Rudd type strutting about the place is a bit of a worry though.

Had KRuddy got the UN gig it would have been worth having a punt on WWIII. Not sure who would collect the payout?

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 7:04 pm

I’ve only made one prediction

Trump will be President before the 31st Jan 2023

I’ve still got time on that one…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 8, 2022 7:16 pm

Apologies Doverlord, ddint save the original comment.
Was the Guardian story with a number of quotes and a bit of commentary.
I tried chopping it up into 3 sections but it kept rejecting until I just went headline and link as a seperate post.

Next time it happens ill save the offending post and send it through

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 7:18 pm

custard says:
November 8, 2022 at 7:04 pm

I’ve only made one prediction

Okay, they may not be yours personally. They’re predictions you’ve put up having a Qanon vibe about them.

Indolent
Indolent
November 8, 2022 7:19 pm
dopey
dopey
November 8, 2022 7:20 pm

Senate Estimates. What are they supposed to estimate?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 7:33 pm

Senate Estimates. What are they supposed to estimate?

The gullibility of voters.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 8, 2022 7:36 pm

Custard, why would Trump want a half-burnt term now over a complete one in 2024?

Razey
Razey
November 8, 2022 7:39 pm

Trump is a buffoon.

Indolent
Indolent
November 8, 2022 7:43 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 8, 2022 7:46 pm

Someone here once pointed out that Trump is a berserker, with the capacity to wreak destruction, hopefully where destruction is needed. He got part of the job done and I’m happy to see him have a second go with his better understanding of what he’s tackling.

Then Desantis can have clear space to rebuild afterwards.

#IknowImadreamer

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 7:47 pm

Thank you President Trump!

Cool! Maybe Ms Devine could become Chief Press Officer in 2025.
Nice to see an Aussie do well.

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 7:56 pm

Dozens killed as U.S. armored vehicles attack Haiti fuel blockade | Redacted News

Do a search. No news service is covering this supposed US invasion of Haiti. None.

This ‘news report’ has no images of those claimed US vehicles, or US personnel, or any fighting whatsoever.

Now either the US has an incredibly tight grip on their operational security, or this is fantasy bullshit.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 7:57 pm

“Cool! Maybe Ms Devine could become Chief Press Officer in 2025.
Nice to see an Aussie do well.”

Miranda has redeemed herself in the last few years, particularly since she moved to the Big Apple (she was born in NYC) and took a job working for the Post. However, I remember how she spruiked for Turdbull and became his biggest admirer when he was PM. She was furious when he was outed in August 2018. I’ve often thought the reason why she joined the Turdbull train in 2015 was because of her considerable disappointment with Abbott. And sure, I can understand that, we all were, however whilst Abbott was disappointing, Turdbull (and later Morrison) proved disastrous for the Liberal Party.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:01 pm

Here’s my prediction…

Trump will NOT be President before 31st January 2023.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 8:01 pm

We’ll have to see what Trump announces next Wednesday (our time) at Maralago

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 8:02 pm

What was the phrase Devine invented?

Razey
Razey
November 8, 2022 8:03 pm

Heh. TGA is 96% funded by Big Pharma. Sure, they are independent.

Dr Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05GGaCBk9Mo

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 8:03 pm

To Miranda I’ll always be a “Delcon” (delusional conservative)*.

Best not to call people names. At least those you want on your side at some future point.

* possibly she is right. Getting an actual conservative government in this country is delusional

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:04 pm

“What was the phrase Devine invented?”

“Delcons”….short for “delusional conservatives”.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 8, 2022 8:06 pm

Appears that way, Calli.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:07 pm

And she wrote many nasty pieces for the Daily Telegraph disparaging “delcons”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 8:07 pm

Delcon.
Ta.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:12 pm

Miranda has always been a good journalist. I could never understand why she hitched a ride on the Turnbull train.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 8:13 pm

NKPlayers

Trump was offered the speakership, respectively declined

He said he had a plan and we’d like it very much

Section 22?

I don’t know.

He’s definitely got a plan and he’s not going to wait until 2024

Of that I’m certain

rosie
rosie
November 8, 2022 8:14 pm
calli
calli
November 8, 2022 8:17 pm

Miranda was infatuated with Turnbull. Horrible stuff.

THE Essential poll last week quantified that strange beast: the delcon, or delusional conservative. These are Liberal voters so angry about Tony Abbott’s ousting they would rather Bill Shorten win the election than Malcolm Turnbull

Possibly because they knew what the creature was and was likely to do to the Party. Shorten on a tight Labor reign may, in retrospect, have done far less damage. Hard to know.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 8:18 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

November 8, 2022 at 8:07 pm

And she wrote many nasty pieces for the Daily Telegraph disparaging “delcons”.

Straight from Trumble’s office.
Designed to badger conservatives into falling into line behind Maocolm.
Didn’t quite work.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 8:20 pm

why she hitched a ride on the Turnbull train.

She disliked Credlin intensely. That came out in the same column I pasted above.

Rabz
November 8, 2022 8:21 pm

If another election is called in Brasil, then voting machines must not be used. The extent of the fraud highlighted by Zimmerman’s piece in Quadrant is mind boggling.

Thankfully, the Bolsonaro people are not happy. Many, many millions of them. My mate’s Brasilian collectivist girlfriend is reportedly distraught at their impertinence, not to mention the refusal of the Bolsonaro to concede.

Not seeing any peaceful way out of this debacle – and wonderful to see the braindead lamestream meeja giving this outrage the coverage it deserves, i.e. crickets.

Digger
Digger
November 8, 2022 8:26 pm

Dozens killed as U.S. armored vehicles attack Haiti fuel blockade | Redacted News

The media is so broken, partisan and corrupt that they write headlines to portray the supply of US tactical armoured police vehicles to Haiti authorities as somehow meaning the US vehicles are attacking and killing civilians by themselves or the US military is somehow involved on the ground…

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 8:30 pm

Not a single Cat has ever commented on the fact that the presidential executive orders 13818 and 13848 still exist under the (so called) Biden administration

That doesn’t make sense.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:31 pm

“Possibly because they knew what the creature was and was likely to do to the Party. Shorten on a tight Labor reign may, in retrospect, have done far less damage. Hard to know.”

I now believe we would have been better off had Shorten won in 2016.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:31 pm

She disliked Credlin intensely. That came out in the same column I pasted above.”

yep.

Bruce
Bruce
November 8, 2022 8:35 pm

Freya?

Norse goddess of Sex and Death, (typical interesting Norse mix); Keeper of half the souls in Asgard?

That Freya?

I met a few “Freyas some years ago. Most of them will be in their early twenties, now. How many of them have researched the nam?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 8:38 pm

She disliked Credlin intensely.

So a mean girl? Meow.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:39 pm

From the Daily Telegraph….

Folau’ documentary: Wallabies star claims Rugby Australia stopped Christian players supporting teammate

A new documentary on Israel Folau shines fresh light on Rugby Australia’s role in the divisive saga, with current Wallabies star Sam Kerevi making explosive claims in the two-part series.

A new documentary on Israel Folau shines fresh light on Rugby Australia’s role in the culture wars that are still dividing Australian sport.

At the same time that national sporting bodies are being scrutinised for virtue signalling and meddling in complex social issues, the two-part ABC film – entitled Folau – is sure to raise new questions about one of the most divisive cases sport has seen.

Samu Kerevi, arguably the best player in the current Wallabies’ set-up, has gone on public record for the first time claiming Christian players who agreed with Folau’s religious views were barred from publicly supporting their teammate.

And Kerevi – one of the few players who went against those instructions and ‘liked” Folau’s social posting saying “hell awaits” “drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators ” – doesn’t stop there.

In what turned out to be a precursor to the Manly pride jersey fiasco that rocked the NRL this year, Kerevi also claimed RA caused a deep split in the rugby ranks five years ago by adding a rainbow to its logo.

The inclusion of the rainbow symbolised RA’s support to vote ‘yes’ in the same-sex marriage survey, but as the Sea Eagles recently discovered there was a problem.

Kerevi said he and other Polynesian players were never consulted about their beliefs.

“No one came up to us and asked us if we support it,” Kerevi said.

“You know, no one asked us our opinion on it. They just said, you know, Rugby Australia supports gay marriage.”

Kerevi also told the film makers that players who supported Folau were kept away from the media when the issue blew up three years ago, triggering a national row over freedom of religion and speech, employments contracts and the protection from discrimination of the LGBTQI community.

RA has always denied muzzling players, but Kerevi says otherwise.

“We got told from our media teams not to say anything about supporting Izzy or saying anything at all,” he said.

“But after those coming days it was everyone that didn’t support him was all over the news. They were to be interviewed. They were allowed to say that they don’t support the message.”

The documentary focuses largely on the view of Polynesians around the case and Kerevi says he sees ‘both sides’ because he has gay family members.

But he also says the whole saga, which resulted in Folau losing his contract and missing the 2019 World Cup, although he received a $3.1 million payout, represented a case of serious double standards.

“If someone does domestic violence and he’s OK to play, but someone that’s posted something that was in the Bible, no, let’s not play on,” he said.

Two years in the making, the two-part series, which goes to air November 21 and November 28, includes interviews with a wide range of people, representing different views.

Michael Cheika, who was then the Wallabies coach, opened up about the anguish it caused, saying: “That was a really difficult time for the team. Really difficult.

“I was confronted in the street aggressively, many times by people. I imagine that was happening to players as well.”

World Cup finalists in 2015 when Folau was in the side, the Wallabies have never recovered since he was booted off the team, bombing out early at the 2019 World Cup and slumping down the world rankings in the years since.

One of Australia’s greatest fullbacks, the dual-code international played 73 Tests for the Wallabies, and scored 37 tries, before his contract was terminated, setting off a messy legal squabble.

Now 33, he currently plays for Japanese club Urayasu D-Rocks and made a brief return to the international arena this year for Tonga, but lasted less than half an hour before limping off injured.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 8, 2022 8:39 pm

Labor (excludes ‘u’) has a habit of doing that:

Don’t want Latham? Then have Rudd!
Don’t want Shorten? Then have Albo!

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 8:41 pm

All girls can be mean, Bear. Some of it can be misplaced.

Which reminds me, all well now or are you still receiving WA Health’s tender ministrations?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 8:42 pm

I now believe we would have been better off had Shorten won in 2016.

Hard to see how Peanut Head could have done any more damage than Waffleworth, SloMo & Josh (although I expect he would have).

mc
mc
November 8, 2022 8:43 pm

I now believe we would have been better off had Shorten won in 2016

As much as I enjoyed seeing labor lose an election they thought they had in the bag, I think the country is worse off. The coalition would have been better in opposition through Covid and shorten could not have been much worse than Morrison. But, if my auntie was a man she would be my uncle……then again, that saying doesn’t quite work anymore.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 8:45 pm

Nope. Departed around 4:00pm Sunday. After a 15 minute treatment. Grrrrrr.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 8:48 pm

They muzzled Folau and his teammates, but they never muzzled Pocock.

Rugby Australia is dead to me. The only games I’m now interested in are those played by my grandsons.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:49 pm

Peter Reith has passed away.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 8:50 pm

“Rugby Australia is dead to me. “

Yep…as is Netball Australia and Cricket Australia.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 8:53 pm

Do we have a Darts Team? I could get behind them.

Reith at 72 – way too young. I believe he had a stroke five years ago poor man.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 8:56 pm

Peter Reith has passed away.

He’ll be a hard act to follow – one of very few capable of explaining John Hewson’s “Fightback.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 8:56 pm

I did not realise Sir Charles Gardiner Hospital is part of the North Metropolitan Health Service. Which goes part of the way to explaining how you don’t even notice a $15m fraud. I expect it is a rounding error on their operating budget.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 9:02 pm

Whatever you think of Medicare and government health, major tertiary hospitals are quite extraordinary places. The scale,staffing, systems and operations are mind boggling.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 8, 2022 9:03 pm

Test

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 9:05 pm

The only real change is the US agencies are interfering in domestic elections now, not just foreign ones.

Zipster
November 8, 2022 9:08 pm

Dozens killed as U.S. armored vehicles attack Haiti fuel blockade | Redacted News

Do a search. No news service is covering this supposed US invasion of Haiti. None.

strange.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 9:11 pm

Dover

What is the BS that I can’t post a post from you know where

What is that?

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 9:12 pm

Cue

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 8, 2022 9:12 pm

Red moon tonight. 5 minutes to reach fully. The universe is just so beautiful.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 8, 2022 9:13 pm

Peter Fitzsimian being handed a prime time radio slot to advertise his new book on Long tan?

‘Cor blimey cobber, strike a, light, if it’s not those bloomin’ noggies again.’
‘By crikey Doug, have at them!’

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 8, 2022 9:15 pm

Peter Reith has passed away.

Yes. I heard. Roger Moore rang a couple of hours ago and told me.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 8, 2022 9:24 pm

Rabzsays:
November 8, 2022 at 2:28 pm
They are not tacos

Another great moment in tone deaf tin eared political idiocy as so effortlessly practiced by the dumbocrats.

“Basket of Deplorables”, anyone?

Homer P still uses “Deplorables” as an insult over at CL’s

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 8, 2022 9:28 pm

m0ntysays:
November 8, 2022 at 2:43 pm
Judith Sloan on 357 large, LOL. It’s good to be a courtier.

How does that compare to some of Their ABC’s “stars”?

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 9:28 pm

Error 500

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 9:28 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

November 8, 2022 at 9:15 pm

Peter Reith has passed away.

Yes. I heard. Roger Moore rang a couple of hours ago and told me.

Someone better call Saul and tell him.
I tried but he’s not picking up.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 9:34 pm

Doesn’t matter

Trump is ascendant

That’s all we need to know

cohenite
November 8, 2022 9:36 pm

Indolentsays:
November 8, 2022 at 7:19 pm
The Paul Pelosi Saga Is Turning into a Miscarriage of Journalism

Yeah, well the only issue here is did paulie take it or give it; and I don’t mean the hammer.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 9:39 pm

There is only about 5 months worth of above ground silver left in the world.

Should we buy silver?

I’ve bought 9 kilograms of it.

Silver has gone up 300+ % in the last 20 years

This is not investment advice

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 9:39 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

November 8, 2022 at 8:49 pm

Peter Reith has passed away.

For a brief moment I thought it was Brandis and I wasn’t terribly upset.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 9:41 pm

Red moon tonight.

Went outside and looked. Creepy!
Awesome, with just a small white patch on the LHS.
So back inside to get small camera to see if I could get a photo.
Didn’t work. Did not register, but for a hundred bucks ten years ago you get what you get.
But I did get a photo of this young lady eating my big toe.
She didn’t want me taking photos of the moon, or something.

m0nty
m0nty
November 8, 2022 9:41 pm

custard is a very good driver.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 9:41 pm

Should we buy silver?

I’ve bought 9 kilograms of it.

Handy if you want to do some home dentistry.

This is not investment advice

No.
No it is not.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 9:45 pm

Montifa is a moron

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 8, 2022 9:51 pm

When are you bringing the news, Custard? 😉

Razey
Razey
November 8, 2022 9:51 pm

Red moon tonight.

Can see it right out the window while at the computer.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 9:53 pm

I am a mere mortal like you Nelson

It will happen when it happens

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 9:56 pm

Razeysays:

November 8, 2022 at 9:51 pm

Red moon tonight.

Can see it right out the window while at the computer.

I thought it was only in the Southern Hemisphere?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 9:57 pm

Custard, do you mind if I call you Long John Silver?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 8, 2022 10:01 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 8, 2022 at 5:58 pm
Freya [as a child’s name] is popular with wokesters and the sort of people that buy Government bullshit unconditionally.
It’s from a Paul Gallico novel

Freya was a Nordic/Germanic deity.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 10:03 pm

I’ve been called a xunt before

You can call me anything you like

MatrixTransform
November 8, 2022 10:04 pm

I thought it was only in the Southern Hemisphere?

well, you can use something like Stellarium to check if you want

…be sure to report back how wrong you are

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 10:05 pm

Brendan Nelson backs frontier violence memorial

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23 minutes ago November 8, 2022
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Outgoing Australian War Memorial chair Brendan Nelson has ­revived calls to build a tomb for the “unknown warriors” that recognises frontier violence, arguing the memorial deserves to be ­treated as unique among the country’s cultural institutions.

As a decade in charge of the ­nation’s most treasured institution ends this week, Dr Nelson defended the war memorial against claims of lavish funding, criticism of its ongoing expansion and controversial plans to ­broaden its presentation of frontier warfare.

In an interview with The Australian, the Howard-era defence minister said the construction of a new precinct at Reconciliation Place in Canberra’s parliamentary triangle – including a sacred ossuary of Indigenous remains – would make a fitting composite to the war memorial’s Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, across Lake Burley Griffin.

“We’ve got the remains of 1700 unknown Indigenous Australians … so let’s build an ossuary there with a presence above the ground to create a precinct which can tell the story of 60,000 years of Aboriginal history and culture … including the massacres and other (episodes) of violence through to the referendum in 1967 and the apology.”

Dr Nelson, soon to relocate to London to become just the second foreign president of Boeing International, said a tomb and precinct would offer greater scope to recognise frontier violence than the memorial, which is intending to install only a “modest, proportionate” display in its colonial ­galleries.

It’s a proposal that has already garnered the support of Indigenous leaders, including Warren Mundine and Ken Wyatt, after the Morrison government agreed to commit $316m to construction of the Ngurra Cultural Precinct.

Mr Wyatt, who was part of the development of the Ngurra project, agreed with Dr Nelson that the precinct would include a broader history of frontier warfare in a proposed educational centre, but said the war memorial “still needed to engage in truth-telling” and “acknowledge the violence perpetrated on the frontier”.

The RSL, which has vocally ­opposed any recognition of frontier conflict at the memorial, said that such a precinct would be a more appropriate setting to ­acknowledge the scope of its history. Last month, Dr Nelson told The Australian the war memorial’s changes would only be “modest”, contrary to reports it was planning a major exhibition in its pre-1914 galleries.

“I’m very confident that when this (display) is done and is opened – probably in 2027, not far from the 250th anniversary of the ­arrival of the First Fleet – I think the basis of criticism will be much less than perhaps it is now,” he said. “Australia’s history is different from North America and from New Zealand. And the instructions to Arthur Phillip were to apply maximum beneficence to the natives and anyone who ­disrupted their activities was to be severely punished. That’s where it started.

“Tragically, and perhaps inevitably, 20,000 Indigenous people were killed in dispossession, (as well as) 2500 Europeans. My view is that this is a story that has to be told.”

There’s nothing sacred, is there?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 10:08 pm

When I looked upthread the Moon was to the NNE, about 35 degrees above the horizon. So visible everywhere, at least in the eastern hemisphere where it’s night. Not red but a sort of brownish hue, quite dark.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 8, 2022 10:12 pm

Freya was a Nordic/Germanic deity.

Hence, Friday. As Woden’s day and Thor’s day.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 10:20 pm

Dover

Seemingly if I post something with a capital Q

It doesn’t work

Test…

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 10:20 pm

Nope

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
November 8, 2022 10:24 pm

Much of the world’s silver is for industrial use, and a lot of it is lost after use.

A small percentage is used for jewellery and ornaments, and an even smaller percentage is used for investment purposes.
However, it can be viewed as a ‘safe haven” commodity, it is relatively cheap to buy at around $A1000 a kilo, and is readily tradeable.

Many mining operations treat silver as a by product, often not worth the cost of processing and refining, so if for whatever reason the spot price skyrocketed, and if it could be profitably processed, the supply side would swing into action and the ready availability of silver would bring the price back down again.

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 10:25 pm

Word Press is off the pace.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 10:27 pm

Posobiec says in one weeks time Donald J Trump will announce a run for the Presidency

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 10:29 pm

I bet you Custard that Trump will not be the President of those United States of America by February next year (2022) (DC time – 12:00:00 AM Feb 1 local time there is too late).

I bet you 10k of pre 1943 Australian sterling coins of middling value.

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 10:32 pm

An edit button would really be handy here.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 10:33 pm

custardsays:

November 8, 2022 at 10:27 pm

Posobiec says in one weeks time Donald J Trump will announce a run for the Presidency

Why would he do that if he is already President?

Arky
November 8, 2022 10:34 pm

Dot says:
November 8, 2022 at 10:29 pm
I bet you Custard that Trump will not be the President of those United States of America by February next year (2022) (DC time – 12:00:00 AM Feb 1 local time there is too late).

I bet you 10k of pre 1943 Australian sterling coins of middling value

..
Why are you trying to taunt an ordinary working man into a bet he probably can ill afford.
Piss off you wanker.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 10:37 pm

The ordinary working man doesn’t need a self-appointed King Gee intellectual as guardian.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 10:39 pm

The ordinary working man has plenty of self-confessed experience of the perils of betting on politics.
But if he chooses to go again, so be it.

Arky
November 8, 2022 10:40 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
November 8, 2022 at 10:37 pm
The ordinary working man doesn’t need a self-appointed King Gee intellectual as guardian

..
This from the same complete turd who just a few weeks ago was feigning “RU OK Custard” remarks.
You too should piss off, you fucking hero.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 10:40 pm

Thanks Arky

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 10:42 pm

Easy, tiger.
Don’t pop a foofer valve, champ.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 10:43 pm

The premise of my argument is that at some point in the Trump administration he signed the insurrection act

That’s what weaponised his response to the fake dossier and the rest of the BS

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 10:43 pm

Custard and I both own about 10k of silver each. We’ll be fine. I know struth will never take a bet.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 10:48 pm

And to unpick the whole thing

EO

13818 and 13848

Get back to me when you understand those things

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 10:51 pm

Some good background info for U.S. election day.

If Republicans Win On Tuesday, Thank The Election Integrity Movement

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 10:52 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to you hairy mob. My accountant informs me that I have done very well for the past year, paid a shedload in tax, and still owe the (Spit) Australian (Spit) fvcking (Spit) Taxation (Spit) Office (spit) enough money to keep an outback community in grog for the next year or so.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 10:55 pm

Dotsays:

November 8, 2022 at 10:43 pm

Custard and I both own about 10k of silver each. We’ll be fine. I know struth will never take a bet.

Not since he lost the boat, at least.

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 10:56 pm

Custard,

Why are these EOs of particular interest?

13818 – Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

13848 – Executive Order 13848—Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 10:57 pm

Zatara is, dare I say, off the pace.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 11:04 pm

Sancho calls it

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 11:10 pm

Zatara

Read about those things

It will help you out figuring what it happening

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 11:11 pm

Lol and donor begins.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 8, 2022 11:12 pm

Posobiec says in one weeks time Donald J Trump will announce a run for the Presidency

Then:

Why would he do that if he is already President?

Look, another serious question. If your assertions are true custard, why hasn’t DJT proclaimed that he is still the POTUS?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 8, 2022 11:15 pm

Just say what you think is going to happen and why.

This is, or should be, simple.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 11:18 pm

KD

Because the whole thing is just not ready

I don’t pretend to be the guru

I’m just watching

I’m off to bed

Watch the rest yourself

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 8, 2022 11:25 pm

I don’t pretend to be the guru

Yes, you do pretend to be the guru. I cannot understand these constant references to nothing, yet you act as though everyone else is a dunderhead for not getting the hidden message, apparently visible to only a select few.

I’m just watching

No, you’re telling everyone else to follow the gourd.

Watch the rest yourself

There are jokes to be had here about well-edited and professionally-produced clips, but I won’t go there just yet.

I’m not watching anything on the say-so of vague promises of something, by someone, at some point. This whole business, I’m sorry to say, has the distinct ring of Annie to it.

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 11:27 pm

I will also accept 30 troy ounces of pure silver.

Gabor
Gabor
November 8, 2022 11:28 pm

dover0beach says:
November 8, 2022 at 9:32 pm

It’s a generic error. Not sure what the cause is but I think it only happens when trying to post a comment.

That’s actually funny, dover.
How else could it happen?

I’m sure unintentional.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 8, 2022 11:29 pm

I will also accept 30 troy ounces of pure silver.

I’ll throw in a gourd.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 11:32 pm

It’s not simple

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 11:33 pm

Hundreds of British police officers sign up to join WA Police in landmark international recruitment push
The West Australian
Tue, 8 November 2022 7:22PM
Shannon Hampton

British bobbies are signing up in droves to join WA’s police force as part of an historic global recruitment drive to get more boots on the ground.

WA Police became the first policing agency in Australia to launch such a campaign last month as it battles to bolster its ranks amid a record number of resignations.

A breakdown of the 393 applications received so far shows 301 (75 per cent) of the applicants are from England.

Meanwhile, 40 of the applicants are from Scotland, 19 from Wales and 33 from Ireland.

Most of the applicants are male — 320 — while 73 women have applied to join the force in WA.

I’m imagining your pommy copper, from a Somerset village, posted somewhere like Hall’s Creek or Fitzroy Crossing…

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 11:34 pm

Pretty funny seeing people babble on about fake news and quoting Q Anon as a serious source.

Q Anon is literally hardcore leftist Democrat activist disinformation against inconvenient voters.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 11:35 pm

This blog continues to be off the pace

I’ll see you in the morning

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 11:36 pm

Oh god.

custard
custard
November 8, 2022 11:46 pm

Dot outs himself as a moron

I’m going to bed

Dover has an algorithm blocking Cue posts

Good night

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 11:48 pm

My crystal ball is at the dry cleaners. You cocksmokers are all I’ve got.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 11:49 pm

Believe.

Oh come on
Oh come on
November 9, 2022 12:32 am

Howard is savage:

Former prime minister John Howard has paid tribute to his “dear friend”.

The Liberal Party has lost a tireless champion of what it believes in,” Mr Howard said.

So that’s a completely blank tombstone for Peter Reith.

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 1:14 am

custard says:
November 8, 2022 at 8:01 pm

We’ll have to see what Trump announces next Wednesday (our time) at Maralago

Yeah. He was also very constipation at the last rally. He wore a red tie and had hadn’t shaved. What does that mean? Is he entering the Oval Office next Monday?

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 1:19 am

constipated…

JC
JC
November 9, 2022 1:30 am

Can energy markets become more convoluted and messed up with intervention over tangled intervention than they are now? Yes they can!

The head of Treasury has backed direct intervention to push down coal and gas prices and redistribute the super profits earned by ­energy companies to poorer households, as a temporary relief measure to address soaring power bills.

As the Albanese government scrambles to put together a potential package of regulatory and tax measures aimed at containing a 56 per cent increase in electricity prices over the coming two years, Treasury secretary Steven Kennedy said “direct intervention” in the domestic energy market was justified by the extraordinary ­circumstances associated with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Dr Kennedy, in prepared ­remarks to a Senate estimates hearing, also warned of a “marked” deterioration in the global outlook and said it was ­“becoming probable that major developed economies will soon experience recessions”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 9, 2022 3:43 am

I have complete faith in Treasury to restore order to the East Coast gas market. Especially if they use some AEMO guys and the people who did Gillard’s Carbon Tax modelling. Albo, Chalmers and Bowen couldn’t stuff this up, could they?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 9, 2022 3:55 am

A lump of coal in every pot.

Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:05 am

David Rowe is back on the TDS train.

Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:19 am
Tom
Tom
November 9, 2022 4:20 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 9, 2022 5:46 am

Thanks Tom. I’m looking forward to a red tsunami.

Mater
November 9, 2022 6:31 am

Mr Wyatt, who was part of the development of the Ngurra project, agreed with Dr Nelson that the precinct would include a broader history of frontier warfare in a proposed educational centre, but said the war memorial “still needed to engage in truth-telling” and “acknowledge the violence perpetrated on the frontier”.

Do I really have to say it? “Violence” is not necessarily war, otherwise we’d be proposing a Bourke St Massacre display in the AWM, too. Perhaps even a display for the victims of the Bali Bombing. It’s just not appropriate.

Piss off and leave the AWM alone. It needs to do nothing of the sort. It’s for people (indigenous included) who risked and gave their lives for the nation, the whole nation. Stop cutting it to pieces like you have done to our community. It’s sacred ground…about the only sacred ground I’m allowed to have in this country.

Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
November 9, 2022 6:31 am

This came in my email from ‘The Spectator’, I wouldn’t be at all amazed if it is true. Back in May the Libs did their preferences in order to hurt many freedom party candidates. They truly don’t deserve to win. Many people just won’t vote for the minor parties.

“Last week, some readers excoriated this newsletter for defending the Vic Libs against effective collusion with an authoritarian and lockdown-happy Andrews government. But if a reported shonky, shabby, stupid preference deal favouring the Greens in vulnerable Labor seats, making Victoria even safer for the loony Left, goes ahead, there is a special place in political Hell – next to that idiot WA Liberal leader who reduced his party to two seats last year – reserved for the so-called leaders who make it. Should it proceed, selling out Liberal principles for expedience, entrenching ingrate Greens, and shafting loyal party members, is reprehensible. The party leadership today must deny the reports and commit to never doing any such deal. Or do it, and see who mans the booths for the Liberals on polling day – nobody. Do these foolish people actually want to win?”

Cassie of Sydney
November 9, 2022 6:51 am

Stephen, this is in the Oz….

Libs eye Greens to smash Andrews’ Labor
JOHN FERGUSON

The Victorian Liberal Party is ­investigating preferencing the Greens over Labor in crucial seats amid debate about how to use the minor party to undermine Daniel Andrews’ hold on power.

The Liberal Party is in the final stages of discussions over preferences, with officials looking to favour the Greens to diminish Labor’s lower house numbers.

Sources said the party was leaning towards sticking by its slogan of “Put Labor last”, which could have a significant impact on the government’s attempts to ­retain the left-leaning inner-city seats of Richmond (5.9 per cent) and Northcote (1.7 per cent).

Those seats could be key to Labor remaining in majority government if its vote falls, as it has done since 2018. The last News­poll points to up to 10 government seats falling amid a near six-point drop in primary vote support over the four years.

It’s a dangerous dance with the devil.

calli
calli
November 9, 2022 6:53 am

That’s actually funny, dover.
How else could it happen?

When you refresh or re-open the page. Seems the 500 Error is being picky this time.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 9, 2022 6:54 am

At least the mid terms are keeping the climate rubbish in Egypt mostly off the front page, at least at the sites I look at. This one made me laugh though:

Macron Urges US, China To Pay Their “Fair Share” For Climate Change (8 Nov)

“We need the United States and China to step up” on emissions cuts and financial aid, Macron told French and African climate campaigners on Monday on the sidelines of the COP27 summit.

Good luck with that. Asking China to pay their fair share? ROFL!

Stephen Williams
Stephen Williams
November 9, 2022 6:57 am

Thanks Cassie. I’ve said it before, the left do stick together and even if they hate each other they will preference other left parties to keep the Libs out. The Libs really don’t care for principles just power and if that means hurting similar right leaning parties they will do it. They would rather not be in government than share it with minor parties.

sfw
sfw
November 9, 2022 7:03 am

From ‘The Daily Sceptic’.
“Sweden Wins! Country That Refused Lockdown and Kept Schools Open Has Lowest Pandemic Cumulative Excess Mortality in the World”

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/11/08/sweden-wins-country-that-refused-lockdown-and-kept-schools-open-has-lowest-pandemic-cumulative-excess-mortality-in-the-world/

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 9, 2022 7:03 am

The next phase of the US electoral cycle will be all about generational change within in the DNC.
I would not want to be a 80 something DNC member of the house or congress when the Tech Bros start funding people half your age in primaries.

Cassie of Sydney
November 9, 2022 7:06 am

“Thanks Cassie. I’ve said it before, the left do stick together and even if they hate each other they will preference other left parties to keep the Libs out. The Libs really don’t care for principles just power and if that means hurting similar right leaning parties they will do it. They would rather not be in government than share it with minor parties.”

Ah yes, the pettiness of the Liberal Party when it comes to other parties on the right, particularly towards the Lib Dems and PHON. I should just remind people that this pettiness has resulted in the current senate makeup. The WA Liberals preferred to preference the Greens and Labor ahead of PHON.

Here in Wentworth, back in May, the Liberals put PHON behind the Greens, Labor and Big Spender. If you didn’t laugh you’d cry.

If the Victorian Liberals proceed down the road of emboldening the Greens, a party I consider to be no different to the Nazis, then they will reap what they sow.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 9, 2022 7:09 am

If you’re a Tech Bro, you can see how targeted support from Peter Thiel can give you outsized influence within the GOP.
Instead of Zuck & Hoffman etc funding the top of the funnel, they can target 10-20 house & senate seats, get all the influence they need for a fraction of the price.
And they can do it over the next 2 years where the DNC won’t be chairing any committees that could potentially cause them grief.
Ex Chuck Schumer, all the old guard is going to have to be looking over their shoulder.

Razey
Razey
November 9, 2022 7:09 am

while 73 women have applied to join the force in WA.

Whats a woman? I’m not a biologist.

calli
calli
November 9, 2022 7:12 am

Thanks sfw. Interesting article.

The somewhat less meaningful Covid death tally (per million population) does not have the same relative magnitude since different countries use different methods for recording what is and what isn’t a Covid death, on top of the fact, of course, that it’s a Pyrrhic victory to mitigate Covid deaths at the expense of higher excess non-Covid deaths. Take a look at Canada and Israel as prime examples of this – remarkably low Covid deaths relative to the rest of the world but very much in the worst half of the dataset in terms of overall excess mortality.

“Higher excess non-Covid deaths” – does this point to the sick, or perhaps the soon-to-be-sick, succumbing to their illnesses because of lack of services during the interminable lockdowns?

Sweden is at over 73% fully vaccinated so perhaps that is not playing into the figures as much as some may think.

rosie
rosie
November 9, 2022 7:16 am

What’s wrong with putting Labor last?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 9, 2022 7:20 am

What’s wrong with putting Labor last?

That’d mean you’d have to put the Greens second last.

Dot
Dot
November 9, 2022 7:26 am

Custard.

You have until 10 AM today NSW time to accept the wager from me.

calli
calli
November 9, 2022 7:27 am

Just got the dreaded error message when I replied to your comment, Cassie. (Sent it off to Dover as Exhibit A).

The conservative parties will never win out unless they focus on winning. Too much other garbage swirling around in their campaigns.

Dot
Dot
November 9, 2022 7:34 am

Ignore the left’s caterwauling is my advice Calli.

The press is the enemy.
The establishment is the enemy.
The professors are the enemy.

It just goes to a failure to remain on brand and message. You can’t please everyone.

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