Open Thread – Weekend 26 Nov 2022


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Miltonf
Miltonf
November 27, 2022 12:16 pm

Take your point Calli. Yes there an article in Arena in 1972 saying ‘universities today train workers’. Of course they meant crumby school teachers and journalists. People too lazy to learn a trade and too dumb to do engineering.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 12:16 pm

m0ntysays:
November 27, 2022 at 11:01 am
You lot are going to go mental over the reconstituted SEC. Rafe will do post after post about it.

Interesting to see if it starts a trend among state governments.

You and your ilk will go insane when you have to pay for it. “What us? The serfs are supposed to pay, not we elites”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 12:16 pm

I dont know..I’ll let you know in a month.

27 December, then. Marked.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 12:17 pm

OldOzzie

Indeed, just like that tawdry affair, the saga of Bulb Energy is a tale of greed and arrogance, in which the grasping protagonists managed to privatise their financial gains from a high-profile company while leaving the public on the hook for its eventual losses.

Like all leftists, they always privatise the profits and socialise the losses.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 27, 2022 12:18 pm

Too stupid to learn a trade too.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 12:18 pm

Thailand, spent a bit of time in that neck of the woods and in places off the beaten track. Nice place for a visit, living there no thanks. You’ll always be “farang”. Laos is very backwards even though it is developing in leaps & bounds especially Vientiane. Cambodia is dodgy and as bit like Thailand 20-30 years ago. Indonesia is hit and miss. Malaysia orderly but has a growing Islamic bent that was never overt years ago.

Singapore is more my liking no too expensive for retirement. Hong Kong is off the table now. I hear Vietnam is the go at the moment, they want all the retirees they can get and I actually have some younger relatives working there who love it.

Na, think I will be staying here for the moment. It resembles the worst toilet in Scotland (stolen from trainspotting) but it is our toilet and I’ll avoid the ickier parts which seem situated well south of the Tropic of Capricorn.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 12:19 pm

I don’t follow it closely but the private sector haven’t touched the NEM outside the renewable scam for some time have they? QLD excess generating capacity and the interconnectors have kept the thing afloat. As soon as that’s gone and hot summers return watch hell break loose.

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 12:19 pm

A mate who is ex Army reckons the SF have been restructuring for “grey ops” for a while now. Apparently happening across the world.

if china thought grey ops was going to win, which they have been engaging in for years, why the breakout military build up

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 12:19 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:16 pm
I dont know..I’ll let you know in a month.

27 December, then. Marked.

3rd of Jan please.

Vicki
Vicki
November 27, 2022 12:21 pm

NE – NAKEDEMPEROR.SUBSTACK.COM
NOV 26

Angus Dalgleish is a Professor of Oncology in the Infection and Immunity Research Institute at St George’s University of London. He is a Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians in the UK and Australia, Royal College of Pathologists and the Academy of Medical Scientists. In his current post he studies the immunology of cancer and the development of immunotherapies to treat, in particular, melanoma.

Lockdown despair drove two of Professor Angus Dalgleish’s colleagues to take their own lives | Daily Mail Online
According to Wikipedia he is a co-discoverer of the CD4 receptor as the major cellular receptor for HIV. Angus is also a vaccine researcher and founded a biotech company developing cancer vaccines.

The Professor was an early proponent of the Covid lab leak theory but also suggested that the Covid spike protein contained artificially inserted sequences. He wrote a paper on his theories in early 2020 but, surprisingly (sarcasm), failed to find a publisher. To get around this, he “disguised” his study as a vaccine paper, which managed to get published and to date has had over 250,000 views.

In true fact checking style, Full Fact looked at the claim that his paper said that Covid had been artificially engineered and concluded that “A Norwegian virologist has made claims about the non-natural origins of the new coronavirus. But this claim is not in a new peer-reviewed paper he co-authored. The scientific community widely agrees that the virus was not artificially engineered.” By ignoring that Professor Dalgleish co-authored the paper, was this a clever way (I’m being generous with the use of clever) of not admitting that the authors were trying to tell the world that the virus looked engineered.

The Full Fact fact check came about as a result of a Telegraph columnist, Allison Pearson discussing the paper with former Chief of MI6 (British Intelligence), Richard Dearlove (Still such a great spy name, however often I read it). Even the former spook suggested that the paper said that Covid was engineered but oh no, Full Fact knew better.

Professor Dalgleish’s paper also warned that SARS-CoV2’s aetiology risked creating ineffective or actively harmful vaccines, including the risk of antibody-dependent enhancement. The authors said that these types of problems in vaccine design were illustrated from past experience in the human immunodeficiency viruses domain.

When it comes to vaccine harms, it is often difficult to establish whether they have actually been caused by the vaccines or by something else such as lockdowns or treatments being cancelled. That is why evidence, whether anecdotal or not, from experts in their field, such as Professor Dalgleish is so important.

Today, he writes in the Daily Sceptic about what he is seeing as a practising oncologist. People with stable disease are rapidly declining after having a booster shot. His full letter, to Dr. Kamran Abbasi, the Editor in Chief at the British Medical Journal is below.

Dear Kamran Abbasi,

Covid no longer needs a vaccine programme given the average age of death of Covid in the U.K. is 82 and from all other causes is 81 and falling.

The link with clots, myocarditis, heart attacks and strokes is now well accepted, as is the link with myelitis and neuropathy. (We predicted these side effects in our June 2020 QRBD article Sorensen et al. 2020, as the blast analysis revealed 79% homologies to human epitopes, especially PF4 and myelin.)

However, there is now another reason to halt all vaccine programmes. As a practising oncologist I am seeing people with stable disease rapidly progress after being forced to have a booster, usually so they can travel.

Even within my own personal contacts I am seeing B cell-based disease after the boosters. They describe being distinctly unwell a few days to weeks after the booster – one developing leukaemia, two work colleagues Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, and an old friend who has felt like he has had Long Covid since receiving his booster and who, after getting severe bone pain, has been diagnosed as having multiple metastases from a rare B cell disorder.

I am experienced enough to know that these are not the coincidental anecdotes that many suggest, especially as the same pattern is being seen in Germany, Australia and the USA.

The reports of innate immune suppression after mRNA for several weeks would fit, as all these patients to date have melanoma or B cell based cancers, which are very susceptible to immune control – and that is before the reports of suppressor gene suppression by mRNA in laboratory experiments.

This must be aired and debated immediately.

Angus Dalgleish MD FRACP FRCP FRCPath FMedSci

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 12:22 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
November 27, 2022 at 11:30 am
What exactly will Andrews SEC take over?
Coal generators who are destined to close but not wind farms or solar as they’re private investments.
Owning or part owning a few batteries will hardly control pricing.

It’s nothing to do with pricing, it’s all to do with taxpayer funded jobs for maaaaaates, and kickbacks to Liars Party funds.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 12:23 pm

There is no such thing as an ‘easily defensible perimeter’

What about a thousand miles of nearly trackless desert in every direction?
A very good barrier to 1942 land warfare logistics I would’ve thought.
Meanwhile the Japanese supply via sea, which they control utterly.

But my thesis isn’t about defense per se, it’s about mindgaming. If the Japanese hold an enclave in the NT around Darwin it would focus the attention of the pollies in Canberra to the exclusion of everything else. Which in turn would force MacArthur and Washington to focus in that direction too. It’s like a thorn in your side.

Consequently the Australian armed forces would be obsessed with the Japanese enclave. The 6th, 7th and 9th Divs would be kept on the mainland, and not go to PNG. The screeching for US infantry divisions would be earsplitting.

And as soon as we developed the supply routes and logistics to actually get to Darwin overland the Japanese could up and leave to Timor just about overnight. As a strategy it would’ve been extremely elegant.

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 12:23 pm

Not without starving 100m + people within a couple of months. China and the West are trapped in a mutual dependence for the immediate future whether they like it or not. cf Europe and Russia this winter and the next few.

I think you guys underestimate the stupidity of the current crop of western governments

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 12:23 pm

Too many Woke fuckwits out there. Best at this point is to find a place that is in best position to rebuild once all the madness ends. Which will likely mean after economic and social collapse.

Hey Razey,
I would be open to the idea of setting up an Israeli style Kibbutz if the shit hits the fan. I only have one spare room, but plenty of space for a few caravans. Fertile ground, bore water, miles from anywhere.
Everybody has to do their bit. I have given serious consideration to hosting a couple of Woofers once I have this place sorted and fruit trees and extensive veg garden planted. New Catallaxy survivors might work out just as well. 😉

Roger
Roger
November 27, 2022 12:24 pm

QLD excess generating capacity and the interconnectors have kept the thing afloat. As soon as that’s gone and hot summers return watch hell break loose.

Yep. And because Labor here are beholden to aforementioned middle class dregs for holding the treasury benches they’ve promised to dismantle the coal fireds even sooner than planned.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 12:25 pm

Rockdoctor – my mate who’s been in various bits of Asia (currently working in China for about 10 years) spent a big chunk of Covid working remotely from Vietnam. I used to get surf reports and photos when the storm swells hit. He’s in his 50s too and I don’t think looking at it as a retirement option. Sounds like a great place but.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 12:28 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:01 pm
war with china is baked in

If you look at Australia and then at China the only bit Xi is going to be interested in is WA and parts of the Northern Territory. Those areas have all the mineral deposits aside from coal. They lack much in the way of round-eye population except Perth.

So China could invade and take everything from Normanton to Geraldton, get everything they really want, and only would have to police less than half a million people. We’d have no way to get any of it back.

Pretty much what Germany would have got, had the UK been on the losing side in WW I. We might now be much better off with a million or so Germans developing the region.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 12:28 pm

Zipster dunno I’m just an army brat whose professional background is in coal mining. My childhood & young adulthood was immersed in the green dad still served till the mid ’90’s, so I know enough to be dangerous I suppose.

Only thing I could think is if you want ground you need to have troops on it to actually own it and they are busy gobbling up atolls in the Sth China Sea.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 12:29 pm

Kim Beazley Sr. astutely spied them on the horizon two generations ago…

He only had to look around his kitchen table.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 12:30 pm

A mate who is ex Army reckons the SF have been restructuring for “grey ops” for a while now. Apparently happening across the world.

Serious money is pouring into Grey Zone tech across the world and growing. Israel is a very major beneficiary of this trend. Unfortunately, that tech also enables civilian surveillance to the extremes. The US is majorly invested in all manner of space , undersea and cyber tech developments. The recent 5 Year CCP pow wow shows the CCP Standing Committee, Politburo and Central Committee re-shuffles will be promoting this sphere of “warfare”.

why the breakout military build up

Because they knew they were way behind.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 12:31 pm

Makkasays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:04 pm
war with china is baked in, the only question is when china feels it has an insurmountable advantage

I just can’t see the CCP initiating a hot war with it’s biggest trading partners constituting some 35% of it’s GDP. Time is on China’s side to dominate the US and the West in all spheres unless the US and Europe manage to turn away from their present path of decline into impossible indebtedness and the disease of corrosive woke leftism. From the CCP’s view, China can win eventually without self-inflicted mass destruction. Over time. So, we agree to disagree.

China plays the long game, and this approach avoids the problem of the “Little Emperors”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 12:31 pm

3rd of Jan please.

No dramas.

m0nty
November 27, 2022 12:31 pm

I would be open to the idea of setting up an Israeli style Kibbutz if the shit hits the fan

Catbutz! A splendid idea with no downsides. I endorse it heartily.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 12:32 pm

m0ntysays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:10 pm
I don’t welcome Armageddon. Kind of puts a dampener on my long term plans.

Yet you voted for Armageddon?

m0nty
November 27, 2022 12:33 pm

If you ever find yourself idly daydreaming about how much better things would be if the Nazis won, give yourself an uppercut.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 12:34 pm

Monty, commune lover, dislikes kibbutzes.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 12:35 pm

Too stupid to learn a trade too.

They’ve had to dumb down trades at TAFE as well, so impenetrably stupid are the offerings from Year 12. Hard to believe that technical colleges used to take pupils straight from Third Form, then Forth Form…and now everyone must complete Year 12. And still turn out dumber than a bag of hammers.

My own Assoc. Dip. was four years of hard slog, chemistry, botany, a bit of structural/hydraulic engineering, carpentry, drawing, designing, model making, botanical Latin (which I still get wrong because now very rusty), bookkeeping and even then the hideous but inevitable Environmental Issues.

All swept away into a maelstrom of soft studies and Woke and useless graduates.

I can only assume it has seeped into all the other specialist courses as well. So glad I’m out of the business except for mentoring.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 12:35 pm

Bear Necessitiessays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:15 pm
I can see not a total ban on SMSF but regulation to make it economically impossible to setup and maintain. A lot of regulation doesn’t have to go through Parliament so they can start making life difficult for SMSF/Super Wraps very quickly.

Regulations must be tabled in Parliament before they take effect, and can be disallowed by a vote of Parliament. How many of our poor, struggling pollies are likely to have private super, with its tax advantages?

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 12:35 pm

Anchor What,

I didn’t have the chance to read your comment from yesterday. After mowing most of the day, I was too knackered to sit in front of the computer. Have sent Dover my email. Look forward to hearing from you.

Addendum to my previous comment, Gun owners most welcome. Rabbits in plague proportions here. Lots of good meat. I love rabbit pie.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 12:37 pm

So China could invade and take everything from Normanton to Geraldton, get everything they really want, and only would have to police less than half a million people. We’d have no way to get any of it back.

I suspect the US would be stepping in lethally long before China hit our waters. Protecting Exmouth and Pine Gap alone would see to that .

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 12:37 pm

Meanwhile the Japanese supply via sea, which they control utterly.

Not really, no. Sea and consequent air power was hotly disputed at the time.

And as soon as we developed the supply routes and logistics to actually get to Darwin overland the Japanese could up and leave to Timor just about overnight. As a strategy it would’ve been extremely elegant.

The Japs didn’t have the supply routes to get from Rabaul to PNG in the back half of 1942, let alone northern Australia. On their retreat back down the Track the Japs were routinely forced into eating bits of Australian corpses.

At Buna and Gona (and Sanananda) they were emaciated, dysentery-ridden, unsupplied cannibals during their last fights. Nobody came for them.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 12:37 pm

HB from what I know and I was last in Vietnam in 2003, the cops are the best money can buy. Overt dual pricing system as well. All I know is apparently they are gunning for the expat retiree and have been for a while.

We are looking at a trip over Christmas to some expat friends we have in Thailand, I have just renewed my passport. Be interesting to see the change post COVID.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 27, 2022 12:41 pm

Stockholm Syndrome.
*smiley emoji. Bloke doesn’t know what he’s holding.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 12:41 pm

Be prepared to bend your back if mUnty lands at your kibbutz.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 12:43 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:34 pm
Monty, commune lover, dislikes kibbutzes.

Communal Bog Lover.

Header from the link,
“In spite of the empire’s sanitation technology, parasite prevalence increased”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 27, 2022 12:43 pm

Folks, if you like your SMSF, you can keep your SMSF…

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 12:43 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 12:44 pm

I’ve long thought Japan should’ve pushed into the Australian mainland in 1942

Just after the fall of Singapore, in February 1942, the Japanese Navy put forward two plans for the invasion of Australia – one to occupy the whole country, the other the Northern half. The Imperial Japanese Army rejected both – they calculated they would need between nine and twelve divisions – of a total order of battle of forty divisions – to occupy the country. They calculated they would need some half million tons of shipping to transport and supply those divisions. Such shipping would have to be redeployed from the task of transporting the raw materials from the newly conquered territories to Japan – the securing of said raw materials was their primary aim for going to war in the first place.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 27, 2022 12:44 pm

Sydney cardiologist Ross Walkers comments about the Vax made it onto Gateway Pundit via Daily Mail.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 12:45 pm

I never traveled much in SE Asia. Wish I had done more, although it’s much easier if you know people on the ground. Did 3 days in HK and did a few things you would never do travelling by yourself cold.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 12:45 pm

A sporty-Beemer is cry for help as old age descends.
Buy a flash ute – window tinted.
Loads of fun when the young chicks keenly eye the vehicle only to have an old bloke like me get out. I’ve been disappointing women all my life and don’t intend to stop now.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 12:45 pm

After mowing most of the day, I was too knackered to sit in front of the computer.

Pogria – You need a salubrious nestbox.

I mowed the front yard yesterday, but had to stop because the poor kooka in the nestbox had had enough after I’d mowed about a quarter of my yard. He decamped and went and sat in the jacaranda. Loud lawn mowers unfortunately don’t feature in kookaburra evolutionary history, even though he likes me. He was back in the nest box shortly after I ceased and desisted so the eggs should be OK.

I’ll do the backyard Monday.

My kookas are on their second go of the season since the first nest in a tree a couple hundred metres away seems to’ve failed. Good luck, Cafe kookas, with your second attempt! (So far the tally of progeny from the salubrious Cafe penthouse is 4 in four years.)

cohenite
November 27, 2022 12:46 pm

I don’t welcome Armageddon. Kind of puts a dampener on my long term plans.

Your long term plan to transition to a dick.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 12:46 pm

Be prepared to bend your back if mUnty lands at your kibbutz.

Bear,
it would be good if he lands in the paddock. I am planning on having a dam excavated next year. A munty-sized crater would save me a lot of money.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 12:49 pm

In my diatribe about dumb pupils, it would help my case if I learned to proof read.

Go forth from the Fourth!

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 27, 2022 12:52 pm

Got sent up to HK and China for work 10 plus years ago. Really grabbed me. Went back on my own three times.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 12:54 pm

Bruce,
the place I used to live had a resident pair of Kookas. Every year they would glide down to the post and rail fence where I had nailed a brass plate to place their food. It was so rewarding to see the new batch of babies each season line up on the fence a little way down from mum and dad. Like you, I always made sure I had plenty of meat in the freezer for them.
A big bonus was when the Butcher birds realised there was meat to be had. I love those elusive, blackheaded little carnivores.
At my current place, a pair of Kookas have been stopping by. I haven’t found the right spot to set up a feeding platform for them yet. Soon.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 12:55 pm

I never traveled much in SE Asia. Wish I had done more, although it’s much easier if you know people on the ground.

Major variations across SEA, from ritzy gleaming cities to impoverished crowded back blocks. Shit roads and smelly public transport outside big urban areas. Dodgy utilities and services too. But often cheap! The common denominator for me was hot, sticky weather and endemic corruption. Everywhere. I don’t miss it.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 12:56 pm

Calli,
there is a huge difference between butterfingers on the keyboard and DUMB. 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 12:57 pm

HK pre China handback was something else. We were traipsing through the back alleys at the foot of the skyscrapers. You felt you could buy a live tiger if you knew the right people.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 12:59 pm

HK pre China handback was something else.

Sure was Bear. Wild. Cheap debauchery at it’s best.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 1:00 pm

Just after the fall of Singapore, in February 1942, the Japanese Navy put forward two plans for the invasion of Australia – one to occupy the whole country, the other the Northern half. The Imperial Japanese Army rejected both – they calculated they would need between nine and twelve divisions

A Darwin garrison the size of the Rabaul one, based around a couple of army divisions, would’ve been enough to defeat any conceivable counterattack for at least two years. It’d’ve taken 6 supplied divisions to assault it, which we didn’t have, nor the Americans. With logistics across thousands of miles of the outback. Eventually they’d have to withdraw as the USN buildup matured to threaten the seabourne supply route, but meanwhile I suspect the political focus on the Darwin enclave would allow the JN to take all of PNG and everything else down to Espiritu Santo. Plus New Caledonia, which would’ve been a bitch to recapture.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 1:03 pm

Makka – I expect trying to get anything project related up in much of Asia would be a different story. Big difference between holidaying somewhere and living there – true all over the world. Anywhere is fine if you are rich enough, even Sydney.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 1:03 pm

The NLP get 94% of the ALP tally of first preference votes and yet gets about 40% of the ALP seat total.
Maybe the VEC could have a look at that or we might start concluding that electoral boundaries have created a Labor gerrymander.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 1:03 pm

LNP

JMH
JMH
November 27, 2022 1:03 pm

Here’s some good news. Andy Meddick is no longer polluting the Victorian LC.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/vic/2022/guide/lc-results-index

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 27, 2022 1:04 pm

Only did HK after 1997. Was amazing and a lot of fun. The party continued for quite a while

m0nty
November 27, 2022 1:08 pm

The NLP get 94% of the ALP tally of first preference votes and yet gets about 40% of the ALP seat total.
Maybe the VEC could have a look at that or we might start concluding that electoral boundaries have created a Labor gerrymander.

Things are getting so crook for the LNP, they might join a push by the Greens for proportional representation. It would mask their incompetence at campaigning in electorates.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 1:08 pm

Very good news JMH.
Gone along with that idiot child of his.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 27, 2022 1:10 pm

Fantastic JMH. I was really hoping to see Meddick gone.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 27, 2022 1:10 pm

Matthew Guy to resign

Gives him three years to until called again by the Libs in the hour of their greatest peril to heroically lead them once more to defeat.

Makes me think of the episode of Cincinnatus. He was at the plough on his small farm when a deputation of Senators arrived imploring him to return with them to the Senate, assume leadership, and save the Republic.

Cincinnatus immediately dropped the reins and went on to indeed achieve victory.

Matt Guy would be one of the oxen Cincinnatus. Bovinely dim and docile, unaware of events playing out around him, and ready to obediently serve whomsoever picked up the reins next, indifferent to whether it was Cincinnatus or a man who had slain him.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 1:11 pm

Eventually they’d have to withdraw as the USN buildup matured to threaten the seabourne supply route

There wasn’t one, Bruce. See above.

but meanwhile I suspect the political focus on the Darwin enclave would allow the JN to take all of PNG

They couldn’t take Milne Bay, let alone Moresby. They didn’t have the available sea power to take it from the south which is why they preferred to try the overland route. They couldn’t get off the coast anywhere else. They were throwing all the troops they had at the Solomons at the time.

They couldn’t have taken it, let alone supply it, let alone hold it.

JMH
JMH
November 27, 2022 1:12 pm

I’ve just had a quick scan of the results. Unfortunately Andrews appears to have the LC under his thumb. Hopefully, I am wrong.
Four more years of misery, Victoria.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 1:12 pm

Things are getting so crook for the LNP, they might join a push by the Greens for proportional representation.

Look on the bright side Monty. With proportional representation Meloni became Italian PM with 26% of the vote.

I love how the left are hysterically chucking their toys out of the pram over that result.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 27, 2022 1:13 pm

Actually, there are two parallels between Dan Andrews and Cincinnatus.

The role Cincinnatus took on was that of ‘Dictator’, but he resigned it as soon as he had saved the Consular army and accepted the surrender of his enemies.

Also, Cincinnatus did not like the plebs either.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 1:15 pm

On This Day:

1095 – Pope Urban II declares the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont

Thus unwittingly preparing ground for one of the great Hunters and Collectors songs nine hundred years later.

m0nty
November 27, 2022 1:17 pm

Proportional representation would be an interesting strategy by the Libs to deal with the threat of the teals. The teals would have to bond together as a formal party. That would change their whole reason for existing.

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 1:18 pm

“Wish harm upon the people that voted for it, sure. But don’t lay the blame on an entire cohort broadly characterised as ‘the young’.”

I don’t KD, my sister’s two boys think reasonably but that’s because they’ve had good parenting. Indoctrination at school can be countered by good parenting. However, there are many young who’ve been completely indoctrinated, I see it and hear it in my workplace. They believe the climate con, the believe the lies about ruinables, they believe you can change sex, they believe the right is evil, the believe money grows on trees! Which is why, maybe, it’s time for some hardship. I think that this young generation in Australia (and the West) is perhaps the most indulged generation ever. A generation that’s never experienced a recession/depression, that’s never experienced war and other deprivations.

Sometimes hardship can mould characters.

Last night I had an interesting exchange with my brother’s boy, a young man visiting Oz from the UK. He’s only eighteen and he’s rather “progressive”. We had the “soccer/football” on and he’ interested because, whilst he prefers rugby, he still talks about “football” with his mates back in the UK, anyway we got started about Qatar, and I said as follows…

1. All this bullshit virtue signalling, taking the knee, wearing the LGBTQI+ colours is all tokenism. If the players et al really had a problem with Qatar’s policy on LGBTQI+ issues, they would have done what players and teams once did with South African, they’d refuse to play there, but no, nowadays they want their bread and butter and it’s all bullshit.

2. What’s worse about Qatar isn’t their stance on LGBTQI+ crap, it’s the way they treat their “slave labour”, mainly from the sub-continent, thousands of whom have died building the stadiums that these virtue signalling teams are now playing in. Now that is a human right’s issue, but all the players and management care about is the bullshit “LGBTQI+” crap.

3. Oh and by the way, are we not, by lecturing and dictating to Qatar about their LGBTQI+ policies, engaging in racist, imperialist European colonialism? Who are we to tell other nations, particularly Muslim and African nations, how to operate their societies? All of this is pure unadulterated condescending colonialism.

My very progressive nephew responded by saying “yes, you’re right”, to which I responded, “yes I am”.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 27, 2022 1:19 pm

1095 – Pope Urban II declares the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont

Was this before or after they got that piano stuck up in the tree?

Cassie of Sydney
November 27, 2022 1:19 pm

“Here’s some good news. Andy Meddick is no longer polluting the Victorian LC.”

That is very good news. What about that whore?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 27, 2022 1:21 pm

Matt Guy would be one of the oxen Cincinnatus.

Ignore the word. Guy is an ox, pure and simple.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 1:23 pm

There wasn’t one, Bruce.

Rubbish KD. In 1942 the JN could supply anywhere. They could easily have supplied Darwin. Just as they took Rabaul and supplied it.

They couldn’t take Milne Bay

They couldn’t take Milne Bay because the 18th Bgd was there with air and naval support post Coral Sea. If on the other hand there were two Jap divisions in Darwin I give you one guess where the 18th Bgd would’ve been in that scenario. Hint: not in Milne Bay.

The Japanese would’ve taken the Solomons and New Caledonia because the US assets would’ve been dragged into Australia due to squawking by Canberra. Both the UK and US agreed that Australia had to be defended as a redoubt. So if the Japs had put a limited Rabaul-style blocking force in Darwin it would’ve sucked us in for years. The whole angst about bringing the 6th, 7th & 9th back from Egypt shows what the thinking was like at the time. Could you imagine the hysteria if the Japs were actually on Australian soil?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 27, 2022 1:24 pm

What about that whore?

I’m afraid you’ll have to be more specific.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 1:24 pm

What about that whore?

Which one?

rosie
rosie
November 27, 2022 1:28 pm

Andy Meddick out.
Getting any one of the gang of four out was going to my KKK style consolation.
Good.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 1:29 pm

First past the post squares it up and gets rid of most greens and teals.
The ALP and LNP could both do well in this system.
Exhaustive preferential is a bastard mix of proportional and first past the post.9

m0nty
November 27, 2022 1:31 pm

I see my LC region has elected a Legalise Cannabis hippie on Green preferences, kicking out Bernie Finn. What a way for him to go.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 1:31 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:23 pm
There is no such thing as an ‘easily defensible perimeter’

What about a thousand miles of nearly trackless desert in every direction?
A very good barrier to 1942 land warfare logistics I would’ve thought.
Meanwhile the Japanese supply via sea, which they control utterly.

Not after 4 June 1942 (Midway).

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 27, 2022 1:34 pm

Is the Pill turning women into lesbians?

The Daily Mail has an article about women claiming that using the Pill turned them into lesbians—and that some scientists are agreeing that this could be true. I wouldn’t be at all surprised. In addition to the physical risks from the Pill, there have long been societal problems that go beyond the hook-up culture.

Everyone knows about the common issues with the Pill: Bloating and mood swings. Less common problems are hyperemesis gravidarum (completely uncontrolled, non-stop vomiting) and deadly blood clots. Nevertheless, the Pill is handed out like candy, even to young teens, because it keeps women from getting pregnant.

The good thing about the Pill’s availability is that it frees women from non-stop pregnancies that damaged their bodies and overwhelmed their lives. The bad thing is that its appearance on the scene, by leaving women to believe that they could have consequence-free sex, gave way to the sexual revolution that marked the start of the leftist war on the family.

But there’s so much more that’s wrong with the Pill, and that’s the fact that it affects women’s minds, not just their bodies

That love for the babyface is where we get the potential path to lesbianism. It begins with abandoning any attraction to manly-looking (and acting) men like John Wayne or Clark Gable movie characters and, instead, end up with chipmunk-faced little boy stars like Brad Pitt and Ryan Gosling (who even has a cute baby name). Women, with their big eyes and soft skin, are another step on the obvious next step.

The Daily Mail has more:

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 1:35 pm

m0ntysays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:33 pm
If you ever find yourself idly daydreaming about how much better things would be if the Nazis won, give yourself an uppercut.

The Nazis weren’t around during WW I. Give yourself an uppercut for needlessly breaking Godwin’s Law.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 1:35 pm

Could you imagine the hysteria if the Japs were actually on Australian soil?

They had the hysteria covered by torpedoing ships in Sydney Harbour. Darwin to Sydney was not the four hour flight it is today. It might as well have been Scotland.

Why they would waste six or more entire divisions, plus try to support them through disputed sea and air territory when those divisions were far more needed where they went (the Sollies) for no appreciable gain other than to upset John Curtin escapes me. They couldn’t have done anything with it even if they had it.

At that point we’d already told Churchill to fuck off, and that the ME divisions were coming home. He was told to fuck off again when he tried diverting the troopships to Burma. The Japs could not afford another front at that time, and had already reached as far as they were going to get.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 1:35 pm

Besides, at the time PNG was ‘Australian soil’ so they were already on it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 1:36 pm

Not after 4 June 1942 (Midway).

Damn straight.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 27, 2022 1:37 pm

Fond memories

Len Evans, the gourmet

By now a self-employed consultant, Len Evans opened Bulletin Place, an old warehouse near Circular Quay in Sydney, establishing a wine merchant’s business and two restaurants, The Tasting Room and The Beef Room. ‘I didn’t make much money, but we had a marvellous time. The great wines were cheap and we drank them copiously. Now I’m better off I can’t afford them. I remember one Latour dinner that became three – there were too many wines for one.’ By the time it closed in 1989, The Tasting Room was a mecca for wine lovers from all over the world.

m0nty
November 27, 2022 1:38 pm

So who could take the Liberals seriously, especially when their shadow treasurer’s Twitter account followed @whoreofyore, on the history of prostitution, and his Instagram account followed @melbourneboudoirbykaren, showing women posing in lingerie?

Quite so, Bolta.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 27, 2022 1:39 pm

Christmas

Christmas trees ‘sell out in 15 minutes’ as paddocks are wiped out in floods

Ron and Barbara Junghans have been growing and selling Christmas trees for more than four decades. They’ve never seen it this bad.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 1:39 pm

In 1942 the JN could supply anywhere.

Not after the Battle of the Coral Sea in May ’42.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 1:43 pm

m0ntysays:
November 27, 2022 at 1:17 pm
Proportional representation would be an interesting strategy by the Libs to deal with the threat of the teals. The teals would have to bond together as a formal party. That would change their whole reason for existing.

ROFLMAO. m0nty=fa is too stupid to realise that the Teals are for all practical purposes (especially funding) already a political party.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 1:43 pm

Exhaustive preferential is a bastard mix

The sneaker in that model is it allows a guy like this one to add an extra digit to an otherwise exhausting ballot. The Left mostly control election apparatus, so stopping such things is very hard.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 1:46 pm

Cassie she’s in regrettably.

Farmer Gez, Tim Smith launched a few truth bombs last night when he could get a word in and CPV was one, I am long in the opinion OPV is the way to go if you are going to force us to the polling booths by threat of criminal conviction (Which I find very totalitarian in nature).

That said the big eye opener for me is how left Conroy is if even Clennell was disagreeing with him last night, I turned off when Reece came on too. Don’t know why Sky get’s him on.

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 1:46 pm
Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 27, 2022 1:46 pm

Matt Guy steps aside exactly 6 months too late.

Mater
November 27, 2022 1:47 pm

Addendum to my previous comment, Gun owners most welcome. Rabbits in plague proportions here. Lots of good meat. I love rabbit pie.

Pogria,
Location (rough idea will do)?

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 1:48 pm

Pogriasays:
November 27, 2022 at 12:23 pm
Too many Woke fuckwits out there. Best at this point is to find a place that is in best position to rebuild once all the madness ends. Which will likely mean after economic and social collapse.

Hey Razey,
I would be open to the idea of setting up an Israeli style Kibbutz if the shit hits the fan. I only have one spare room, but plenty of space for a few caravans. Fertile ground, bore water, miles from anywhere.
Everybody has to do their bit. I have given serious consideration to hosting a couple of Woofers once I have this place sorted and fruit trees and extensive veg garden planted. New Catallaxy survivors might work out just as well. ?

What state? 😉

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 27, 2022 1:50 pm

I turned off when Reece came on too. Don’t know why Sky get’s him on.

When Reece comes on any Sky show I switch to another show. He literally makes my skin crawl.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 1:54 pm

Liberal 12
ALP 15
National 3
Greens 3
Legalise Cannabis 2
DLP 1
PHON 1
Animal Justice 1
SF&F 1
Fiona Patten 1
Greens are the losers in the Legislative Council, not being preferenced by the Liberals or the Preference Whisperer, by the looks.
That result for the Coalition more or less reflects the percentage they got in the Legislative Assembly.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 1:55 pm

Cassie:
Yes – here is the Grand Mufti meeting Hitler.
…and Himmler.
…and is that Doenitz on his left?
…and with an honour guard from 13th SS Mountain Division Handschar?
Why he wasn’t sorted out by the Jewish Brigade in 1945 is beyond me.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 1:57 pm

Both the UK and US agreed that Australia had to be defended as a redoubt.

MacArthur’s orders – contained in the Official history of the United States Army in World War Two – was that his mission was NOT the defence of Australia against invasion, and, if any part of Australia WAS occupied, he was NOT to devote any resources to recapturing said occupied territory.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 27, 2022 1:57 pm

Zipster says:
November 27, 2022 at 1:46 pm

The JAPAN You Never Knew Existed ??

Go to an instagram site called ‘cheaphousesjapan’, i’ve picked up a couple of bargains.

If you are still working and looking to buy a house near me, you could get a shitbox that needs work for $700K USD

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 27, 2022 1:57 pm

A High Noon Showdown for America

After President Trump announced his candidacy for president in 2024, Merrick Garland announced late last week the appointment of a special counsel to continue, in yet another form, the same Democrat/RINO witch hunt that has wrongfully hounded the former president in different mutations for the last six years.

This time, President Trump’s response was different.

To Garland and all of America, he strongly suggested on Friday that he wasn’t going to take it anymore. Instead, he would be taking a stand by refusing to cooperate in this latest “investigation” — i.e., abuse of power — by the Biden administration.

Nor should he have to cooperate. Enough is enough! And it’s time for patriots across America to let him know: we’ve got his six!

After all, as he quite rightly pointed out, why hasn’t the attorney general appointed a “special counsel” to investigate Hunter Biden and the rest of the Biden family criminal cartel — including the present White House Resident — based on, among other things, all the evidence contained in Hunter’s “laptop from hell”?

President Trump is — and, indeed, all of us who love our country are — presently in the crosshairs of a regime that has weaponized its federal law enforcement with the specific of intent of hamstringing, if not destroying, all of its political/ideological enemies.

Such is the errant trajectory presently being taken by our current federal government. And it must be resisted — not only by President Trump, but by all of us, and with great speed, before it is too late.

By the appointment of the special counsel, the message being sent to President Trump and those who support him is the same. We are to shut up and go away, or our “government” will make us pay a price none of us would want to pay…nor should we have to.

Many of us who find ourselves on the sidelines are like the townfolk in High Noon. We know that a gunfight is coming that will determine our future as a community, but we are left watching the drama from the outside while trying to decide exactly what we should do before that event takes place — if anything. We are left in a state of paralysis.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 2:00 pm

Not after the Battle of the Coral Sea in May ’42.

Coral Sea was supporting the attack on Port Moresby. If instead they came past Timor and landed in Darwin the USN could not have stopped it. There wouldn’t’ve been a Battle of the Coral Sea. There might’ve been a Battle of the Arafura Sea, which would’ve been very much against the Allies because of the lack of sea room – it would’ve been favorable to the Japanese Navy located north of Broome, with land-based air support from Timor. Given how far further west that was I really don’t think the USN would’ve risked such a battle.

Then as I said if the Japs were established in Darwin the politics would become inescapable. Every division we had would’ve been sucked northwards in a futile attempt to evict them.

The Poms and Frogs did something similar in WW1 with the Salonika pocket in Oct 1915.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 2:01 pm

Cassie,

As I said this morning, the Victorian Liberal party, so supine, so cowardly, so craven when it comes to opposing Labor on anything but particularly on climate, are being eaten alive.
And it will be replicated here in NSW next March.

To celebrate, we had a blackout here this morning for 3? hours.
Genset brought into action for that time as I didn’t know when it went off, but it worked OK. I really should get it integrated to the power board…
God is warning us of the perils of a Labor Government.
🙂

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 2:08 pm

The Japs were notorious for looting absolutely everything.
So, it stands to reason that if they were going to Australia, they were going to Sydney and Melbourne, not a mudhole like Darwin.

JMH
JMH
November 27, 2022 2:09 pm

Big_Nambassays:
November 27, 2022 at 1:50 pm
I turned off when Reece came on too. Don’t know why Sky get’s him on.

When Reece comes on any Sky show I switch to another show. He literally makes my skin crawl.

So do I. I bailed from the Sky coverage because of that revolting little muppet as well.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 2:09 pm

MacArthur’s orders – contained in the Official history of the United States Army in World War Two – was that his mission was NOT the defence of Australia against invasion, and, if any part of Australia WAS occupied, he was NOT to devote any resources to recapturing said occupied territory.

And Winston’s promises were…?

I’m going on the official history of the Australian Army. If pressed I can go find the text.

He said, she said. 😀

(There was a lot of tooing and froing since Churchill wanted returning Australian divisions to be sent to Burma. Which we refused outright. Then as a compromise we put two brigades in Ceylon. But if we’d had Japs in Darwin that would’ve so not happened. Indeed according to Winston’s promise we might’ve ended up with a couple British Indian divisions in Perth, which would’ve been fun.)

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 2:10 pm

Of course, invading Sydney and Melbourne would require the collusion of the Curtin Government.
Which was likely doable.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 27, 2022 2:11 pm

The ‘Transgender’ Lie: How We Got Here

In The American Conservative recently — in a piece entitled “The Coming Storm over Trans ‘Tuskegee Experiment’” — Rod Dreher highlights a telling Twitter thread that reveals the tremendous angst and anger of a dad whose daughter’s life is now a “living nightmare” due to the “demonic barbarity” of those behind the evil “transgender” agenda.

In describing his daughter’s tragic mutilation, the father rightly declares,

We all know trans is a lie. Scientific American, the AMA, the pediatricians, none of them have even a fig leaf of an excuse. They will come to us for a do-over, but for the victims of their demonic barbarity, there will be no do-over and we will all be able to see that.

He continues:

Mr. Dreher declares,

There will be no justice until every damn doctor, hospital, and medical association responsible for this atrocity has been sued into the ground, and some of them imprisoned. Forgiveness? Yes, in time (though that’s easy for me to say, as I have not suffered what this father has suffered) — but only after full lustration, only after Nuremberg-like tribunals, only after the trials, only after utter and complete shame shattering all the luminaries and the institutions — including the Democratic Party, the TV networks, the major newspapers — which brought this evil onto the lives of American children and their families.

Mr. Dreher is exactly correct, though, given the condition of our country, I’m not convinced we’ll see justice in this world. Whether or not that happens, no one should be surprised that we are now having to debate who is a male and who is a female. The truth on sex was long ago abandoned by the American left — and those like-minded — and with their numerous perversions on this matter, they have led millions astray.

The truth on sex was an early casualty in the American left’s long waged war on the truth.

I hope there is a reckoning on this grave matter. But given the quick and broad surrender on homosexuality and marriage, again, I’m not so sure we will see it.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 2:15 pm

Carpe Jugulumsays:
November 27, 2022 at 1:57 pm
Zipster says:
November 27, 2022 at 1:46 pm

The JAPAN You Never Knew Existed ??

Go to an instagram site called ‘cheaphousesjapan’, i’ve picked up a couple of bargains.

Anywhere out of the way you can buy cheap as chips in Japan. Some towns even give them away provided you live there. No limits on foreign savages buying realestate (except farmland).

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 2:15 pm

Here ya go:
Gold Warriors: America’s secret recovery of Yamashita’s Gold

Traces more than half a century of secret collaboration between Washington and Tokyo, between the CIA and the underworld in Japan and other countries. This book reveals how former CIA and Pentagon officials, and rogue entrepreneurs, use secret funds to set up private intelligence and security operations to meddle in American foreign policy.

Now, it’s not an Official History, so I understand that will scare many of you off.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 2:18 pm

If instead they came past Timor and landed in Darwin the USN could not have stopped it.

Woulda, shoulda.

At this juncture time, Jap resources were being devoted to settling , exploiting and shipping home the vast resources of Dutch East Indies, Malaya , Siam and into Burma. Quite a logistical challenge in wartime conditions. Sending divisions into Darwin would not have got the Japs what they went to war to acquire ie resources. Darwin at the time was an outpost above a desert flanked by swamps. Strategically, without POM it made no sense for the Japs to risk their resources (ships, men, materiel etc) on such a poor prize. They had much more to readily plunder from their conquests to our north and time for the Japs was of the essence. They knew that the US was tooling up.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 2:19 pm

no one should be surprised that we are now having to debate who is a male and who is a female.

There is no debate. If anyone wants to debate me, I’ll politely ask them to drop their pants and point it out to them.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 27, 2022 2:20 pm

and now everyone must complete Year 12.

Common misconception. They only have to finish year 10 at school, and either at school or Tafe or working at least 25 hours a week.

It is sad to see kids who should have gone for a trade instead of doing year 11, struggle through wasting everyone’s time, when they could be half way through their apprenticeship and earning something.

Where I am now they actively encourage those kids into a trade or work, and using the ” if you are not intending to go to uni, leave now, otherwise you will cost yourself at least 40k in those 2 years you waste here” approach.

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 2:22 pm

just leave this here

google is evil

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 2:24 pm

Zipstersays:
November 27, 2022 at 2:22 pm
just leave this here

google is evil

I use startpage
https://www.startpage.com/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 2:25 pm

Sending divisions into Darwin would not have got the Japs what they went to war to acquire ie resources.

Makka they were also overtly establishing a defensible perimeter. That was Yamamoto’s strategic plan. Darwin I think would politically have been a much better choice than places like the Andamans or Midway. Or even Rabaul, which both side thought was important until MacArthur showed it wasn’t, actually. As I said the return on investment for a Darwin fortress would have been huge, since a vast amount of Allied effort would be sucked in due to inescapable political forces. Plus that, after it served its purpose, it could be evacuated easily leaving a minor port with nothing much of use in it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 2:25 pm

At this juncture time, Jap resources were being devoted to settling , exploiting and shipping home the vast resources of Dutch East Indies, Malaya , Siam and into Burma.

Don’t have the reference handy, but one account I read claimed that the Japanese had their eyes on the oilfields of the Netherlands East Indies since the 1920’s.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 2:29 pm

The kids can do year 11/12 VET instead of VCE in Victoria.
Two days a week on the job and modified work at school, no assignments or much homework as the job placement usually generates enough paperwork for anyone.
It’s not a bad system once the mothers get over the shock that their child is not a scholar. The kids know it and often beg the teachers to tell parents they’d rather do a trade and not hate the last two years of their school life and still fail.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 2:31 pm

Woulda, shoulda.

At this juncture time, Jap resources were being devoted to settling , exploiting and shipping home the vast resources of Dutch East Indies, Malaya , Siam and into Burma. Quite a logistical challenge in wartime conditions. Sending divisions into Darwin would not have got the Japs what they went to war to acquire ie resources. Darwin at the time was an outpost above a desert flanked by swamps. Strategically, without POM it made no sense for the Japs to risk their resources (ships, men, materiel etc) on such a poor prize. They had much more to readily plunder from their conquests to our north and time for the Japs was of the essence. They knew that the US was tooling up.

One hundred per cent.

‘Taking’ Darwin would not have achieved anything, and would have consumed critical resources desperately needed in the Pacific – made even more urgent by Coral Sea and Midway halfway through 1942.

Rabaul to Gona in NG is a pissweak 652km, and they couldn’t even resupply their troops there after August 1942. Jap troops in Darwin would have had nowhere to go except south into the desert to fry and die.

Just a big, icy cold glass of frosted nope.

Vicki
Vicki
November 27, 2022 2:37 pm

BoN – some advice on what to do with a young crow (parents had nest in large gum near the house) which seems to have been abandoned by the parents & has taken up residence in our garden. He just walks around nonchalantly (as do the maggies/butcher birds/galahs/& various parrots) pecking up insects, & even walks around the verandah snatching up little spiders. He is completely unafraid of us & will be quite close while I am gardening. I think he spends the night in our huge mulberry tree in a corner of the grounds.

Unfortunately, when we inevitably restock our chook pen (which the fox raided a month or so ago) it is odds on that this fellow will steal eggs as most of its kin usually do. A real quandary. He is such a character.

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 2:38 pm

little neo-maoists

Climate activists are now ‘targeting Beethoven’
Sky News Australia

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 2:47 pm

Army in line of fire as sweeping defence review homes in on cuts
Matthew Knott
By Matthew Knott
November 27, 2022 — 5.00am

The Australian Army’s helicopter fleet is being closely examined for cuts alongside planned purchases of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles in a sweeping federal government review aimed at preparing Australia for a potential war with China within 10 years.

Sources familiar with the government’s Defence Strategic Review said the army has been a particular focus for potential cuts compared to Australia’s navy and air force.

Former defence minister Stephen Smith and former defence force chief Angus Houston are leading the review, established to reconfigure the Australian Defence Force (ADF) for the next decade of strategic threats.

Smith and Houston handed an interim copy of their report to Defence Minister Richard Marles earlier this month and will deliver a final report by March.

Aware the defence budget is under intense pressure, the reviewers are said to have been casting a close eye over tens of billions of dollars worth of planned purchases of army helicopters, tanks and other infantry vehicles as the government seeks to bolster Australia’s air and maritime capabilities.

“There is no doubt the army is coming under far more scrutiny than any other element of the Defence Force,” Mick Ryan, a former commander of the Australia Defence College, said.

The strategic review is being conducted by former defence minister Stephen Smith and former defence chief Angus Houston, pictured with Defence Minister Richard Marles.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

The government is exploring options to acquire long-range missiles, drones and jet fighters as part of Marles’ vision for a military capable of “impactful projection”.

Extra spending on such hardware would be expensive and come on top of the purchase nuclear-powered submarines under the AUKUS pact at an estimated cost at least $100 billion.

Ryan, a retired army major general, said: “There is a strong strand of thinking in the Canberra bureaucracy that thinks the army is something that should really only be used for bushfire recovery and other natural disasters.

“We’re very bad at predicting the next war; we’ve never done that successfully.

“To put all our eggs in the sea and air basket is not just arrogant but extremely reckless.”

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd warned”there is a grave risk that by the late 20s and the early 30s, we could well find ourselves on the cusp of armed conflict” with China over Taiwan in a speech last week.

The government announced on Friday it was pausing the tender process for the LAND 400 Phase 3 Infantry Fighting Vehicle project until the strategic review is complete. With an estimated price tag of $18 billion to $27 billion, it would be the most costly acquisition project in the army’s history.

There has been strong speculation the government will slash its planned order of armoured troop carriers under the project from 450 to 300, freeing up money for other purchases.

A spokeswoman for Marles said: “The Albanese Government is committed to ensuring our Defence Force has the equipment, the capability, the people and the funding it needs to keep Australians safe.”

The spokeswoman said the government would not pre-empt the findings of the review.

Marles said the government would need to make “hard choices” about reconfiguring the military in a speech earlier this month.

Saying he believed the concept of “impactful projection” would be “the cornerstone of future Australian strategic thought”, Marles said: “Our approach must strengthen the lethality, resilience and readiness of the ADF.

“We must ensure we accord adequate priority to high-end military capabilities to do this.

“The ADF must augment its self-reliance to deploy and deliver combat power through impactful materiel and enhanced strike capability – including over longer distances.”

Asked how hardware such as helicopters fit it into a doctrine of impactful projection, Marcus Hellyer, a senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, said: “They don’t really.”

“If we’re talking about firing missiles 1000 to 2000 kilometres away, an attack helicopter doesn’t help you much,” Hellyer said, adding that helicopters had proven extremely vulnerable in Russia’s war with Ukraine.

The Morrison government announced in March it would spend $5.5 billion to acquire 29 new Boeing Apache attack helicopters, with delivery expected in 2025.

It also announced a $3.5 billion purchase of tanks and other armoured vehicles, a controversial decision given some national security experts believe tanks would not be relevant in a potential conflict with China.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 2:48 pm

Vicki – I’ve had friendly crow kiddies twice, including this young sir. He arrived and was accepting food from my hand after two days. Day three I started to lure him onto my arm he was so friendly.

Day four he was gorne.

That’s because the crow clan found him and suggested, very firmly, that he go elsewhere. Sadly that was the last I saw of him.

In your case the same will happen. If your kiddie is the scion of a local clan they will make him go away. It took a month for the second one I befriended to have that happen to him, and he was terrified the whole time he was coming to my Cafe. Crows are quite firm with their offspring.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 2:50 pm

Guys…
When the election results are what you expect from an electoral system that comprises an Inner Party, and the Outer Party of Libs, Labs, Greens and 1Nations – and when the policies they carry out are indistinguishable from the Inner Party Policies, perhaps it’s time to lift the curtain on the Kabuki Theatre that has us mesmerised.
Yes?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

MatrixTransform says: November 27, 2022 at 9:15 am
any minute now mUnty will explain State Revenue and where the money will come from

1) From charging a tax on every business, tens of thousands of dollars per year, perhaps hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, based on the amount of wages they pay.
2) From charging thousands of dollars, perhaps tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands, as a fee on every transfer of land.

Should work.

Razey
Razey
November 27, 2022 2:53 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
November 27, 2022 at 2:51 pm
MatrixTransform says: November 27, 2022 at 9:15 am
any minute now mUnty will explain State Revenue and where the money will come from

1) From charging a tax on every business, tens of thousands of dollars per year, perhaps hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, based on the amount of wages they pay.
2) From charging thousands of dollars, perhaps tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands, as a fee on every transfer of land.

Don’t forget the tax for squatting on aboriginal land.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 2:54 pm

The Australian Army’s helicopter fleet is being closely examined for cuts alongside planned purchases of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles in a sweeping federal government review aimed at preparing Australia for a potential war with China within 10 years.

Sources familiar with the government’s Defence Strategic Review said the army has been a particular focus for potential cuts compared to Australia’s navy and air force.

Back to a militia based home defence/area denial force, with a limited number of special forces and mechanised forces able to deploy as part of an allied force? Something like the 1911 compulsory training scheme, but with the deployable add-on?

The Army has been dreaming of controlling the long-range missiles (ballistic and others), but logically those and any force of strike aircraft/bombers should be under a single command.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 2:54 pm

Here’s Peggy Seagrave on YouTube talking about Yamashita’s Gold and related entities.
Believe it or not, the 1951 Peace Treaty with Japan ruled out any compensation or reparations for Allied POWs mistreated by the Japanese.
This was the quid pro quo for the Japanese keeping secret from the rightful owners that the Americans had stolen the loot that the Japs had stolen between 1941 and 1945.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 2:56 pm

PS, Angus Houston was Air Force. The RAAF has resented the Army take-over of helicopters in the 1980s ever since an Army CDFS ordered it.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 2:56 pm

That was Yamamoto’s strategic plan.

Of all IJ military leaders, Yamamoto knew well that Japan’s window of real opportunity in war with the US was both precarious and very short. 1-2 years at most. In fact, it was the Japanese Army who bullied the Monarchy into the stratagem that Japan could quickly strengthen sufficiently (through vastly expanded resources) to fight off/counter the inevitable US counter attacks. The Army didn’t have that depth of logistical and geographic knowledge the IJN had developed so they therefore completely miscalculated. As history shows.

I’m speculating but behind closed doors after the Coral Sea , Midway and everything else they had going on at the time I’m reasonably sure the Jap Navy just said ” no fkg way” to a Darwin sortie.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Old Ozzie: Thank you for the Len Evans link.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 2:59 pm

Something like the 1911 compulsory training scheme, but with the deployable add-on?

Not ridiculous. It was successful for the Taliban after all.
And the Swiss have been rather good at deterring unwelcome visitors for a while now.
Generals like to talk about asymmetrical warfare. It works.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 3:03 pm

Calli:

Menzies’ “forgotten people” have been forgotten again, maybe this time for good. Younger generations want it soft and socialistic, and they’ll get it.
When the money runs out and they actually have to work hard physically, they might get it in a different way. Time and circumstance are the only way out now…no good looking for a political saviour.

Well said Calli.
The political structure of Australia – and by extension, the West, has been well and truly white anted. By whom it doesn’t matter, just that the rot exists is the issue.
All we can do is prepare for the crash that is coming.
If some think the crash isn’t going to happen, then here’s fable for you:
The Grasshopper and the Ant.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 3:06 pm

Don’t forget the tax for squatting on aboriginal land.

Inheritance taxes, anyone?

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 3:13 pm

Athur C Clarke did a sequel to ‘Rendezvous With Rama” titled ‘Rama 2’.
The crew came from a resurging Western society after the calamitous Great Depression of around 2030?.
The description and reasons for the financial collapse is quite good, the effect it has on society is also well thought out.
The rest of the series is unmitigated rubbish.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 27, 2022 3:14 pm

Boambee, you would only appoint scum like Smith to review Defence if you were looking for expedient ways to make cuts. My mate despises him and so does most of the rank and file who served under his tenure. I believe from what I have read in blogs since he missed out on FM to Rudd that feeling is mutual.

Mate tells me he has heard that the armoured cars they have wont last much longer being a legacy of the Vietnam War. The MRH90 & Tiger have been colossal failures apparently. He thinks there’s too much of a bias to Euro platforms that work well in cooler gentler countryside’s of northern Europe but not so the hot arid or tropical climates our boys work in the north.

Vicki
Vicki
November 27, 2022 3:21 pm

BoN : re your advice regarding friendly young crow – thanks for that. This is what I wanted to hear, as the chook situation does not augur well for resident crows.

It is interesting that mum & dad seem to return to check on him & a large flock has been appearing in the paddocks. Either way, I am hoping they will claim him. BTW I have to be firm with husband not to throw him scraps!!!

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 27, 2022 3:23 pm

What about that whore?

I’m afraid you’ll have to be more specific.

Bear, you made my chicken roll lunch come out of my nose! Brilliant.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 3:23 pm

Rockdoctor

Mate tells me he has heard that the armoured cars they have wont last much longer being a legacy of the Vietnam War. The MRH90 & Tiger have been colossal failures apparently. He thinks there’s too much of a bias to Euro platforms that work well in cooler gentler countryside’s of northern Europe but not so the hot arid or tropical climates our boys work in the north.

Those “armoured cars” would be the M-113 armoured personnel carriers, now updated more than once, and truly old, around 60 years for the initial purchase, but I doubt that any of those are still in service.

The pro-Euro bias has been around for a while (since at least the 1960s, think Mirage-III). The unkind might suggest that it relates to more enjoyable postings to project teams in Europe than in the US. Think France versus the southern parts of the US.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 3:26 pm

NSW boob news, part I – the Tele:

Lily Cook was left “angry, hurt and upset” after she found out topless pictures had been snapped of her and shared without her consent after a visit to an eastern suburbs beach with her sister on November 12.

Several hours after returning home, the personal trainer said she received a text from a friend asking if she had been topless at the beach, followed by what she described as a “close-up photo of me topless at the beach”.

The most horrific thing that has ever happened to anyone who’s undergone horrific things. Getting the cans out on a public beach and having your photo taken, after thousands of people have actually eyeballed said cans whilst out.

Part II – also the Tele:

Two thousand naked Aussies have turned their faces to the sky and their bums to Bondi in a stunning public art project.

And:

Men and women of all ages, sizes and colours were encouraged to participate in the event. The instillation follows Mr Tunick’s 2010 nude gathering on the steps of the Sydney Opera House which attracted 5,500 nudists.

Sorry, Lily. You’ve been out-boobed.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 3:29 pm

I’m speculating but behind closed doors after the Coral Sea , Midway and everything else they had going on at the time I’m reasonably sure the Jap Navy just said ” no fkg way” to a Darwin sortie.

Only because “Midway and everything else they had going on” was the opposite grand strategy. I suspect there might’ve been a spat between the IJA and IJN going on since it would take the Army to garrison Darwin and the Navy to deliver them. They never were very friendly in such circumstances.

Once I played a game of Gary Grigsby’s Pacific War with a Yank guy. A seriously good strategic wargame. We’d send saved games by email, this was very early on maybe late 1990’s.

Anyway after some several turns it shook down to two strategies. I was playing Japan. He, as the Yank, was playing the Yanks. He focused everything on capturing the islands in B-17 range of Tokyo, since you could get victory points by strategic bombing it. I though chose to throw all my aircraft carriers and ground pounders at Calcutta. What bits of leftover fleet I had, including Yamato, were used to slow the Americans.

I was a whisker away from capturing India for the Japs when my American opponent vanished. He scarpered. He’d suddenly worked it out – once the Brits were gone, and all their scheduled reinforcements, he’d be toast as everything I had would then be coming for him. Strategy. It was fun. 😀

(Not the first time I’ve taken on Americans, we did this once with a Oz vs US 7 on 7 game of Adventurer Kings, which was an early PBEM game. We Aussies splatted the Yanks, they were quite unhappy about it. There’s still an AK community going.)

Indolent
Indolent
November 27, 2022 3:31 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 3:32 pm

Dover

Imagine basing such a decision, that it is licit to kill an unborn child beyond the 24 week of pregnancy, on the a right to private and family life.

It’s not too different to the original basis for Roe vs Wade, which was also based on an imagined right to privacy as an emanation from a penumbra of the US Constitution?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 3:32 pm

The RAAF has resented the Army take-over of helicopters in the 1980s ever since an Army CDFS ordered it.

RAAF/Army discussions on the issue of helicopter support became rather heated in the early days of the Vietnam War.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 3:34 pm

I had to laugh at all the pale narcissists at Bondi. So many!

The first thought that came to mind was “long pig”.

Indolent
Indolent
November 27, 2022 3:35 pm
Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 3:37 pm

Something I’ve noticed missing from Monty and Eds missives.
A call for cessation of the Triumphalism endemic to Conservative wins.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 3:40 pm

Cassie:
Bragg is Inner Party.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 3:40 pm

Vicki – I discourage the crows, since they tend to consume my Cafe patrons. When they approach the Cafe they get mobbed by noisies, and sometimes hosed by me. However when I’m out walking I have an arrangement with the local crow matriarch. She has worked out not to approach the Cafe but also that if she arrives at a certain power pole at the end of my street I will give her yummy mince. She now allows me within about 3 metres. I figure the more mince I feed her when I’m out walking the fewer noisy miner chicks she’ll take. Or something like that.

WolfmanOz
November 27, 2022 3:43 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
November 27, 2022 at 8:05 am
“I’ve long commented that the only way now is to wait for the climax. People will only begin to see, when the lights go out. As the T-Shirt says: “Science doesn’t care what you believe”.”

That’s my feeling too. When the blackouts starts, when the power rationing starts, when the jobs fall away likes leaves, and the privileged entitled and very progressive young won’t be able to charge their phones and computers, the shouting, the complaining and the whingeing will be audible in another galaxy.

These young indoctrinated puppies aren’t stoic, many lack any character to withstand deprivation. A few days ago, in my workplace, I heard some some people complaining about the cost of airfares. I was chuckling whilst making my tea and toasting my bagel. One of the complainants reads the Guardian website and votes Teal. I raised my voice (nicely of course) and I said to these young sprogs, well, you all better get used to it, it’s only been in the last thirty years that airfares became affordable.

I actually now do wish hardship on the young.

Excellent rants today Cassie ! ! !

You’re last point is probably not quite right i.e. Teal electorates are not young but wealthy fwits.

On Friday there were some polls suggesting the Imbecile was gong to win, suggesting the earlier polls were just a tease – at least here in Victoria we didn’t end up with a Labor minority Govt with the Greens in coalition.

Still too many here in Victoria (and elsewhere in Australia) are happy with the soft socialism and simply don’t care about corruption, appalling governance, huge deficits etc etc. I’d say 10-15 years ago that wouldn’t have been the case.

So if they want socialism then give it to them nice and hard . . . until the money runs out. Here in Victoria I’d give it 2-3 years.

I’m now resigned to the fact that it is now going to take an almighty economic collapse ie power blackouts/rationing before we are going to see any change, and even then, it might not be enough given the low level of intelligence and lazy thought amongst too many people.

As for leaving Victoria here it’s not that simple to just up and leave – family, friends are here – and my other roots are in Auckland and the UK – so not much better there anyway.

I won’t get depressed about it but I’ll call out any socialism bullshit that’s sprouted by anyone in any conversation I might be in.

Just need to try and enjoy life as it is and not let the fuckers grind you down.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 3:45 pm

Lotocoti:

‘Twould be a shame if New Greta was upstaged by a long and bitter northern winter.

https://twitter.com/SophiaKianni/status/1596562395891396608

At 20 years old, I’m going to be a main stage speaker at the inaugural FORTUNE Impact Conference!

I don’t think the silly girl realises she’ll be part of the smorgasbord of nubile entertainment young hopefuls at the after party.

miltonf
miltonf
November 27, 2022 3:48 pm

Smith. Soft handed effete fucking lawyer. The very model of modern labor.

He was Principal Private Secretary to the Western Australian Attorney-General, Joe Berinson 1983–87.

Lord I despise those parasites.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 27, 2022 3:49 pm

I suspect the political focus on the Darwin enclave would allow the JN to take all of PNG and everything else down to Espiritu Santo

1. The parts of New Guinea the Japs were on was already Australian soil.

2. The ‘political focus’ was already front and centre on NG – so much so that Blamey acquiesced to Macarthur and Curtin’s combined will and sacked not one but three commanders in five months – Syd Rowell, Tubby Allen and Arnold Potts.

Allen in particular was replaced after he’d done all the hard work and pushed the Japs back three-quarters of the way to Gona. His replacement, George Vasey wiped the floor with the remnants.

At the time the US was pouring everything it had into Guadalcanal, which was the Japs’ focus as well. Macarthur couldn’t afford another flank to Guadalcanal’s west which NG would have been.

The political focus on ‘Australian soil’ is moot. The Japs couldn’t have established, let alone purposelessly held Darwin or anywhere else. The idea that roads and infrastructure would have been strengthened to send troops, and more importantly their supplies across an entire continent to get through a perimeter impossible to hold, and eventually into a minor port does not sit well with strategy of any type.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 27, 2022 3:54 pm

A fine week ahead.
Hay heading out on trucks to dairies.
Canola being windrowed.
Lambs in the shed for shearing tomorrow.
Nikki the wonder dog is very excited about the days ahead.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Who here recommended Samurai by Saburo Sakai?
(WWII memoirs of a Japanese fighter pilot)

Read it a few days ago. Enthralling & gripping read. He makes it very clear just how buggered Japan was by 1944 and had no hope of ‘winning’ anything.

He also makes it clear the Japanese were stunned when the US extended the way by roughly one year.
The yanks had them (Japan) on the ropes in mid-1944 & could have taken Iwo-Jima before lunchtime.

Instead the US pulled back & sailed off to the Philippines to engage in about a year’s worth of what was effectively a sideshow that had the twofold effect of giving Japan breathing space and a place to field test some new tactics & equipment.

His description of Tokyo & life in the Japanese homeland, before any bombing began (apart from Doolittle’s raid) shows just how frigged they were, before the war even came anywhere near the home islands.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 4:03 pm

The career trajectory of [Professor] Stephen Smith is an example of Labor’s reach and power.
The Liberal Party is either kidding itself or pretending when they talk about building a Labor Party style Coalition of the Fringes.
The bottom line is that the ALP has the ability to find work for members of Identity Groups [and their families] while the Liberal Party is flat out finding anything for defeated Members of Parliament, let alone Professorships.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

… extended the war by one year… (curses to spellwrecker)

Sakai was on Iwo Jima when the yanks sailed away. He expected a US landing & didn’t think the island would be able to hold out until dusk on the first day.
Most of the garrison did not have a firearm, there was no artillery, no aircraft, no serviceable airstrip, & most of the ‘garrison’ were shell shocked troops, poorly fed, ears ringing & wandering disoriented and leaderless, coz US bombardment.

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 4:05 pm
Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 4:07 pm

Mater and Razey,
Southern Tablelands, NSW.

Mater, there are also a lot of foxes here. The vixens have been slowed down quite a bit because the cubs are out of the nest and being taught to hunt.

Old Ozzie, as Salvatore said re Len Evans, thanks for the memories.
I have the two books mentioned in the article. The book by Len is a biography come cookbook. It is this book that gave me the BEST ever recipe and method for making Pea and Ham soup, bar none. The book shows a photo of Len in his early days in NZ, looking quite handsome on a horse. He called it his Marlboro Man photo. There is also a print of a painting where Len is depicted as Napoleon in all his debauched yet worn out glory.
The Len Evans/Graham Kerr book is also fun and has recipes that still hold up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 4:11 pm

Instead the US pulled back & sailed off to the Philippines to engage in about a year’s worth of what was effectively a sideshow

It’s my opinion that the recapture of the Philippines was largely to assuage MacArthur’s ego.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

It is this book that gave me the BEST ever recipe and method for making Pea and Ham soup, bar none.

Pogria, please, please, pleeeeeease, share this recipe.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 4:14 pm

Greens leader Samantha Ratnam says party a ‘force to be reckoned with’

The Greens have vowed to pressure Labor further to the left, with leader Samantha Ratnam saying the party was on track to double its representation in parliament.
Mitch Clarke
 and 
Kaitlyn Smith
6 min read
November 27, 2022 – 4:02PM
Sunday Herald Sun
168 comments

heraldsun.com.au06:39
Daniel Andrews claims victory in the 2022 Victorian election
 
The Victorian Greens have vowed to pressure Labor further to the left, declaring they have now become a “force to be reckoned with”.

The Greens will have at least four MPs sitting in Victoria’s lower house — with the party picking up Richmond, and also retaining their inner city heartland of Melbourne, Prahran and Brunswick.

While Northcote appeared to have fallen early to the Greens, by late Sunday it appeared Labor MP Kat Theophanous had regained control of the seat, which Daniel Andrews had targeted heavily in his election campaign.

In what they’ve dubbed a “Greenslide”, the Greens enjoyed major swings of nearly 20 per cent in Preston and Pascole Vale, while also recording a significant swing in Footscray.

They also boosted their representation in the upper house, expected to pick up an additional three seats alongside leader Samantha Ratnam.

Ms Ratnam said the Greens are on track to double their party room representation.

“We’re on track to double our representation in the next Victorian parliament, putting us in the balance of power in the upper house — in a powerful position to push the next Labor government to go further and faster on the issues that all Victorians care about,” she said.

“It’s clear voters swung away from the major parties last night in favour of progressive parties like the Greens.

“They made it loud and clear they want action on climate change, housing affordability and integrity in politics.

“The Greens are a force to be reckoned with and we’re here to stay.”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

It’s my opinion that the recapture of the Philippines was largely to assuage MacArthur’s ego.

Must have made the blokes who fought the Battle of Manila (Stalingrad-among-the-bamboo) feel really warm & cozy.

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 4:14 pm

Hugh & Indolent.

I posted the presentation by Dr. Mike Yeadon before listening to all of it. It is essential viewing.
If you don’t watch anything else today, please do watch this.

No.
57 minutes to describe something that can and should be able to be said in ten minutes?
Double no.
I’m over people who talk in paragraphs, not sentences. Also over people who cannot condense an argument to its basics.
When they realise the above and resubmit their offerings, I’ll listen.

m0nty
November 27, 2022 4:14 pm

Something I’ve noticed missing from Monty and Eds missives.
A call for cessation of the Triumphalism endemic to Conservative wins.

A triumph merits triumphalism.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 27, 2022 4:16 pm

Consolation prize in Danistan:

…the Teals failed to replicate momentum from the federal election, with all four Climate 200-endorsed candidates unlikely to get over the line.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 4:18 pm

Wolfman,
while you are nearby, I have been meaning to ask you about running a particular film thread. I reckon it would be especially welcome in these miserable times.
Would you be interested in a thread devoted to one of my all time favourite genres, Gentle British Comedies. No country has ever come close to making these divine comedies as well as the Poms. The ones I particularly enjoy are not the famous ones such as Love Actually etc. I adore the obscure ones.
If you are interested some beauties are, “Saving Grace”, “Keeping Mum”, “Waking Ned Devine”,( a particular favourite) and “Whisky Galore”, which has been on rotation on World Movies.
For your consideration.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 4:24 pm

KD – If the Japs had taken Timor then landed 2 divisions in Darwin in a next stage, easy peasy, Kokoda would not then have happened.

Instead of mobilizing to Port Moresby we’d’ve mobilized to Katherine, if we could. Or Broome and Mt Isa.

Consequently PNG would’ve been totally undefended. That’s simple politics.

Now think: if there was a front with Japan on Australian soil, and Canberra is going apeshit on steroids, which they would be, what would the Americans do? The political pressure would be focused on Darwin, not Port Moresby or Rabaul. So the Japanese would then have a free hand in New Guinea and likely Papua also.

MacArthur may’ve had orders to ignore a Jap invasion of Australia, but in reality if one had occurred the political pressure from Washington and London would override such considerations.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 4:26 pm

Salvatore,
I have sent Dover my email for Anchor, ask him him to send it to you also. I will scan the page and send it on.
Each of Lens’ recipes came with a story which makes the recipes all the more enjoyable. From memory, he recounts the story of the greatest Duck Soup he had ever tasted. He was in charge of food for a fancy do and roasted duck was on the menu. 500 ducks had been roasted and from the resultant pan juices and scrapings, a soup was made which only Len and a few others were to enjoy after the party. Sigh…

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 4:28 pm

“It’s clear voters swung away from the major parties last night in favour of progressive parties like the Greens.

“They made it loud and clear they want action on climate change, housing affordability and integrity in politics.

“The Greens are a force to be reckoned with and we’re here to stay.”

Samantha Ratnam
Surely she doesn’t believe any of that?
2 Labor talking heads bagged the Liberal Party for preferencing “extremists” last night, on the ABC, yet no panel member asked them who the extremists are.
All Liberals ever had to do was Put Labor Last and sit back and watch Labor and The Greens wonder what to do next.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 4:32 pm

It’s my opinion that the recapture of the Philippines was largely to assuage MacArthur’s ego.

Lot of that, but the Oz history makes a case that it was valuable as a jump off point for Okinawa and Kyushu. Plus it sucked in and destroyed the IJN, which was quite necessary also.

In practice the reconquest of the Philippine islands went extremely quickly and well, so I don’t gainsay MacArthur saying “I will return”. There’s a lot of kudos doing things like that.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 4:32 pm

Okay. I have had an enormous whinge in the past about Qantas and their call centres…as in…zzzzzzzz….grrrr….idiots!

No more! Regardless of the fact that they’re still offshore, the last two calls have been to Fiji and South Africa respectively. Lovely, lovely people on the other end of the phone, switched on and helpful. Qantas knew they had to life their game and they have.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 4:33 pm

Bother.

Lift

johanna
johanna
November 27, 2022 4:34 pm

At TheirABC online:

Riverina’s Rainbow on the Plains pride festival returns to celebrate regional LGBTQIA+ visibility

How does this fit with TheirABC’s statutory requirement to be impartial?

Senate Estimates used to be one way of grilling statutory authorities like TheirABC and demanding that they operate within the relevant legislation. While one or two Senators ask hard questions (which are always put on notice) by and large the dickheads in the Coalition don’t even pick up the ball so they can drop it.

Mostly this is the fault of the Nats, who seem to be under the impression that their constituents are entirely dependent on TheirABC like they were in the 1950s. As I have said again and again, blaming Tony Abbott (or John Howard) for failure to curb TheirABC is simply wrong. The Nats made it very clear that any such action would be sunk in the Senate. Imagine the hay the media and the Opposition would have made out of that.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 4:34 pm

…the Teals failed to replicate momentum from the federal election, with all four Climate 200-endorsed candidates unlikely to get over the line.
Yeah.
Anyone who has watched The Teals ask Labor Ministers Dorothy Dixers in Question Time would hafta question their genuineness.
Still, if voting Teal is a stepping stone to voting Green and Liberal continue to Put Labor Last, there could be be happy ending.

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 4:35 pm

Protests Erupt in Shanghai and Other Chinese Cities Over Covid Controls
A chanting crowd called for China’s leader, Xi Jinping, to step down, a rare act of defiance reflecting growing anger after nearly three years of lockdowns.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 4:35 pm

I’ll also say there was a lot of urging for Formosa to be the next target after Manila, thence to relieve and assist the Chinese. In the end the US chose north not west, and the rest is history. Perhaps the Manhattan Project swayed their analysis.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 4:37 pm

Reason…have a booking with Cathay through to LHR next year with a 26 hour stopover…in HK. China are still dicking around with short stay tourists…medical supervision indeed! Go jump.

So an alternative had to be found and we have it. BC most of the way too, so it’s not all bad. 😀

Bob Sewell
November 27, 2022 4:37 pm

Makka:

I just can’t see the CCP initiating a hot war with it’s biggest trading partners constituting some 35% of it’s GDP.

In 1939, France was the German’s largest trading partner.
In 1940, it was The Soviet Union.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 27, 2022 4:39 pm

Once you privatise the ABC, that removes the stumblingblock stopping the FTA channels from charging for content.
Plus Election coverage, News and Current Affairs, the commercials aren’t wasting time on that rubbish.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 27, 2022 4:40 pm

In practice the reconquest of the Philippine islands went extremely quickly and well

The “Battle for Manila” cost 100,000 civilian lives, and the devastation of that city.

WolfmanOz
November 27, 2022 4:42 pm

Pogria says:
November 27, 2022 at 4:18 pm
Wolfman,
while you are nearby, I have been meaning to ask you about running a particular film thread. I reckon it would be especially welcome in these miserable times.
Would you be interested in a thread devoted to one of my all time favourite genres, Gentle British Comedies. No country has ever come close to making these divine comedies as well as the Poms. The ones I particularly enjoy are not the famous ones such as Love Actually etc. I adore the obscure ones.
If you are interested some beauties are, “Saving Grace”, “Keeping Mum”, “Waking Ned Devine”,( a particular favourite) and “Whisky Galore”, which has been on rotation on World Movies.
For your consideration.

I’ll add to the list of topics . . . been considering an Ealing post.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 4:42 pm

Here Today, Gone Tomorrow and so it goes…

Although American, we Aussies could identify with 95% of this short film of nostalgia.

As an aside, I wonder how many of you can spot the odd one out? I reckon Wolfman will pick it. And any movie buffs also.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 4:43 pm

A fun thing with the Philippines reconquest is that we were dead keen on having an Australian division contribute, and MacArthur was even more dead keen that we didn’t contribute. He didn’t want the Philippines liberated by scum from hickville. So as a booby prize we got Balikpapan, Tarakan and Labuan. Which I have to say went very well.

Makka
Makka
November 27, 2022 4:44 pm

In 1939, France was the German’s largest trading partner.
In 1940, it was The Soviet Union.

Precisely Bob. And how did that work out for Germany?

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 4:45 pm

I had to type something positive today.

The other one is my pea and ham soup recipe secret. You have to use the Christmas ham hock, left over from the joyous festivities. Anything else just isn’t the same.

Normal transmission may now resume.

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 4:46 pm

Thanks Wolfman.

Do look at the link I posted. The anomaly is in the first thirty seconds. I reckon you’ll see it. 😉

Zipster
Zipster
November 27, 2022 4:46 pm

“They made it loud and clear they want action on climate change, housing affordability and integrity in politics.

this climax action, is it on onlyfans? mutley you would know

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 4:47 pm

The “Battle for Manila” cost 100,000 civilian lives, and the devastation of that city.

War is shitty. I haven’t read about that bit, since it’s not covered in the Oz volumes for obvious reason. Was that due to the US or the Japanese?

Pogria
Pogria
November 27, 2022 4:48 pm

Calli,
absolutely! A well matured piece of ham bone is one of the culinary arts greatest flavourings.

calli
calli
November 27, 2022 4:49 pm

And please don’t think I’m being a poseur with the BC tickets.

They still stand for Big Concrete. 😀

Rabz
November 27, 2022 4:54 pm

For the Gliberal Party, and leader Matt “Groundhog” Guy, the result was simply an unmitigated disaster

Which no one could have foreseen, evah.

Oh, except when they did, in their many many tens of thousands, again.

Elections are now effectively redundant in this country. A wonderful outcome, to be sure.

Tom
Tom
November 27, 2022 4:55 pm

Does anyone have a transcript of the Chairman’s victory speech?

Dear Leader last night announced triumphally: “Hope always defeats hate”.

Translation: you need only 50.1% to govern. So for the 49.9% who hate me, you can all get stuffed because you don’t matter.

You watch. He thrives on division.

PS: if he was going to govern for everyone (which he’ll never do), the first thing he would fix is Victoria’s crumbling, speed-restricted country roads network.

Andrews’ third term will be a giant fuck you to everyone who doesn’t support his mad Belt and Road, CCP-style ideology.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 4:55 pm

Salvatore

Instead the US pulled back & sailed off to the Philippines to engage in about a year’s worth of what was effectively a sideshow that had the twofold effect of giving Japan breathing space and a place to field test some new tactics & equipment.

It was worse than that.

In the European Theatre, the US Army was short of both divisions and reinforcements, and more so, the shipping to move them to Europe. Half a dozen divisions and the shipping to move them to the Philippines could have moved a higher number of divisions to Europe in late 1944/early 1945.

Some of the divisions moved to the Philippines went later to Okinawa, but many remained there until the war ended.

Why did this happen? In a word, MacArthur. If denied his “I shall return” moment, he might have resigned from the Army and run as a Republican in the 1944 presidential election. How many died to prevent that?

Rabz
November 27, 2022 4:56 pm

calli says

The womanage who gifted us the term “snoutcomes”.

Of which there will be many, following that grotesque deformed jug eared hitlerist imbecile’s triumph last evening.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 27, 2022 4:58 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
November 27, 2022 at 4:11 pm
Instead the US pulled back & sailed off to the Philippines to engage in about a year’s worth of what was effectively a sideshow

It’s my opinion that the recapture of the Philippines was largely to assuage MacArthur’s ego.

Not quite. See my comment at 1655. It’s always politics first for the DemonRats.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 27, 2022 4:58 pm

Macarthur didn’t need any more divisions in the Philippines, since we were very keen to send one of our veteran ones, the 6th or 7th I forget which. But he rejected our offer.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Boambee John says: November 27, 2022 at 4:55 pm

+1

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