Open Thread – Mon 24 June 2024


Villa by the Sea, Arnold Böcklin, 1865

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 24, 2024 12:47 am

The Australian puts up a column by Adam Creighton about Kansas legal action v Pfizer and after 16 hours only 32 comments showing.
Looks like suppression of comments to me. A regular tactic.

calli
calli
June 24, 2024 1:02 am

Whoops! I seem to have missed a few threads.

With Dover’s indulgence, I’ll re-post here.

calli
calli
June 24, 2024 1:03 am

Greetings from the Bay of Naples.

This morning, we were greeted with the “breath” of Vesuvius. That’s some fearful halitosis!

Toddled around Pompeii for a few hours. Can’t help comparing the viewing to 2001 when there was basically no one here. I’m glad the Beloved got to see it, crowds and all.

In 2001, our little group of schoolgirls settled themselves in the bleachers of the amphitheater, our Italian guide stood on the sweet spot and we were treated to Nessun Dorma! And a very good rendition it was!

The Beloved’s blushes were spared…we visited neither the brothel nor the house with the priapus fresco. I’m afraid the girls were quite keen to view both.

calli
calli
June 24, 2024 1:27 am

Now I’m embarrassed about having a double post.

Just scrolled back very fast and found a m0nty “zinger” following my comment about siting nuclear power on existing coal fired, and supposedly geriatric stations. He seems to think the government should buy back property in private hands.

Bizarre.

Stop subsidising useless “green” crap and allow the market to decide.

I’m also intrigued. What do the owners want to convert the properties to? Housing? Subsidised of course. Yes, I’m really that cynical.

Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 4:08 am
PeterM
PeterM
June 24, 2024 4:11 am

Thanks Tom
Lethbridge made me laugh

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 24, 2024 4:17 am

Thank you Tom – Lethbridge sure has CrisaFOOLY down pat

KevinM
KevinM
June 24, 2024 4:40 am

Interesting observation, but I think it should be an exercise both ways, what happens if do this and what happens it the enemy does that?

Maybe that is not strategy, only to be prepared?
I’m not a military or any other genius for that matter.
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“Strategy does not mean that we plan what we will do if something happens, but that we calculate in advance what will happen as a result of what we do…”

Perhaps the most interesting military figure in the history of the Soviet Union was Boris Mikhailovich Saposnikov.
A senior officer with exceptional ability who can be called Stalin’s right-hand man and also the mastermind of the Red Army.

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KevinM
KevinM
June 24, 2024 4:45 am

calli

I remain very open minded about the benefits of nuclear energy. And why countries like China persist in using coal fired energy courtesy of our own mining.

I was reading about the expansion of nuclear in Europe, even small countries like Finland and Hungary are doubling their nuclear capacity.

Can’t that expensive if they can afford it can it?

KevinM
KevinM
June 24, 2024 5:16 am

Buying a ticket first thing in the morning.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 5:27 am

Al Goodwyn had it right the other day – Joe is the cheap fake.

KevinM
KevinM
June 24, 2024 5:30 am

They are flexing their muscles and getting more and more daring.

At least 6 dead, 12 wounded in shooting attack on Russian synagogue, Orthodox church

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 5:32 am

From Gateway Pundit:
After analyzing 325 COVID vaccine autopsy cases, the now peer-reviewed study found that “a total of 240 deaths, which is 73.9%, were independently adjudicated as DIRECTLY DUE to or significantly contributed to by COVID-19 vaccination.”
Explosive Study Once Removed by Lancet within 24 Hours, Now Peer-Reviewed and Public: Reveals 74% of Deaths Directly Linked to COVID-19 Shot | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim H?ft

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 5:37 am

Elon Musk: Another “conspiracy theory” turns out to be true.
Credit again to Gateway Pundit for highlighting this story about some states allowing voter registration without due ID in federal elections – but not in state elections. Funny about that!
Several States Including Arizona Allow Illegals to Vote in Presidential Elections with No Proof of Citizenship Needed – Elon Musk Weighs In | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 5:45 am

“The Fountainhead is particularly famous for its representation of newspapermen who relish in creating mob actions, especially against anything new and creative.”
Trump has stepped out of an Ayn Rand novel, fully formed – American Thinker

Zatara
Zatara
June 24, 2024 5:50 am

Snopes FINALLY Admits Trump Did NOT Praise Neo-Nazis or White Nationalists as “Very Fine People” in Charlottesville Hoax

No, then-President Donald Trump did not call neo-Nazis and white supremacists “very fine people” in 2017. Speaking about a deadly protest in Charlottesville, Virginia, he said those groups should be “condemned totally.”

And another leftist trope goes down the drain.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 5:51 am

Most of the left-leaning media will not resist the temptation to present the “Palestinian strapped to front of Jeep” story as another instance of IDF brutality.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 24, 2024 6:28 am

Classic.

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Martika – Toy Soldiers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvdLovAaYzM

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2024 6:29 am

Leak captures handsome boy perfectly.

Handsome boy is a midget, in all ways.

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MatrixTransform
June 24, 2024 6:47 am

What Dutton wants is completely anti-free-market

mUnty, if you’re suggesting the NEM is a free market then you’re completely deluded

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 24, 2024 6:47 am

ADVANCE Australia is going to target the Greens — good luck to them – I saw this article and immediately made a substantial donation (sadly, nothing like Simon Holmes a Court level) I have donated to ADVANCE on many occasions because they do good work. I hope others donate generously because the vomitous Greens have to go or at least be cut down to size along with the half-baked elitist Teals

They’re nothing like GetUp supported as it is by the woke and decrepit who’ve done nothing but a great disservice to Australia.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 24, 2024 6:55 am

This is the Adam Creighton article to which I referred earlier:
As Kansas sues Pfizer for deceptive conduct, millions of Americans regret taking a Covid19 vaccine, a survey suggests
Kansas is the latest US state to sue pharmaceutical giant Pfizer for misleading and deceptive statements about its Covid-19 vaccine.
By ADAM CREIGHTON
WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT
8:04AM JUNE 23, 2024
40 COMMENTS
As Kansas becomes the latest US state to sue pharmaceutical giant Pfizer for misleading and deceptive statements about its Covid-19 vaccine, a poll has found around a quarter of Americans who were vaccinated against the disease now regret taking the shot.

Around a third of Americans also agreed with the statement that Covid-19 vaccines, which were mandated in many jurisdictions around the world in 2021, were ‘killing large numbers of people’, according to a poll conducted by Rasmussen Reports published on Friday (Saturday AEST).

“Forty per cent of Republicans, but only 11 per cent of Democrats and 25 per cent of those not affiliated with either major party, say they never took the vaccine,” Rasmussen reported.

The survey of more than 1200 Americans, which took place earlier this month, found 24 per cent of those who received at least one Covid-19 vaccines now regretted it, while 18 per cent of Americans had ‘no trust’ in the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

The findings emerged days after Kansas Attorney-General Kris Kobach said he would be suing Pfizer for breaking the state’s consumer protection laws, following in the footsteps of his Texas counterpart who similarly sued Pfizer in a still pending case in December.

“Pfizer made multiple misleading statements to deceive the public about its vaccine at a time when Americans needed the truth,” Mr Kobach said in a statement on Monday (Tuesday AEST).

Debate around Covid-19 mandates and the origin of the virus itself erupted once again this month when Anthony Fauci, the former top Covid-19 adviser to the White House, appeared before congress to defend his controversial record in guiding the US through the pandemic.

Robert Redfield, the former head of the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, last week said mandating Covid-19 vaccines was a “terrible decision” because they weren’t necessary for healthy younger people and included a risk of injury.

In a 179-page statement of claims Kansas alleges Pfizer deliberately played down the prospect of vaccine injuries, including for pregnant women and young men and made assertions about its effectiveness that the company either knew were false or couldn’t have known.

“Pfizer took advantage of Kansans’ fear of COVID-19 and desire for safety by offering a ‘safe and effective’ COVID-19 vaccine, while concealing, suppressing, and omitting material information that undermined its safety and effectiveness claims,” the document read.

“Pfizer said its COVID-19 vaccine was effective even though it knew its COVID-19 vaccine waned over time and did not protect against COVID-19 variants,” the statement of claims read.

The effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccines has come under growing scrutiny in the US in the wake of the pandemic amid reports of injuries and questions about their effectiveness, even as US health authorities continue to recommend everyone aged six months old and over be vaccinated against Covid-19.

The Western Australian government last year in July published data that showed Covid-19 vaccines caused injuries at around 24 times the rate of ordinary scheduled vaccines.

“Pfizer said its COVID-19 vaccine was safe even though it knew its COVID-19 vaccine was connected to serious adverse events, including myocarditis and pericarditis, failed pregnancies, and deaths,” Kansas alleged.

In a public statement Pfizer said its remarks about its Covid-19 vaccines, which created US$75 billion of revenue for the company in two years, had been “been accurate and science-based” dismissing the Kansas case’s merits.

Launching is case in December last year Texas attorney general Ken Paxton said many Texas were “by tyrannical vaccine mandates to take a defective product sold by lies”.

The Biden administration mandated vaccines for all full-time workers in late September 2021, sparking a fierce political debate over a rule that was ultimately overturned by the Supreme Court.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 24, 2024 6:58 am

Leak captures handsome boy perfectly.

Handsome boy is a midget, in all ways.

Handsome boy know precisely how small he is in all ways, that’s why he’s such a snarling, whiney midget. Talk about The Voice, his is enough to drive a saint to drink, and I’m no saint but I do have to leave the room gagging as I go.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 24, 2024 7:02 am

Most of the left-leaning media will not resist the temptation to present the “Palestinian strapped to front of Jeep” story as another instance of IDF brutality.

They’d precious little to say about the poor girl handcuffed and with large blood-stains on the back of her track pants being loaded into a van by the monsters to who knows what fate.

Pogria
Pogria
June 24, 2024 7:08 am

Looks like another “softball bat frost”, this morning.
The duck and goose ponds will be covered in plate glass.
I shall have a cracking good time smashing the ice! ?
The uncovered part of the front verandah has a slick of very hard frost. When the pups raced out for their morning business, they slid across the frost and were airborne before they hit the ground.
They came back a little more slowly. Lol!

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 7:18 am

The Demonrats have been sticking the needle into “democracy” for years.
It is all but finished in the USA now. The symptom list is long, and includes what happened to trump before and during his last term, the covid tyranny, 2020 and all that, the open border, the J6 martyrs languishing in prison in DC, the lawfare happening now, the dodgy voter rolls, the complicit media … it’s awful.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 7:34 am

Our own p*ss poor media continue to allow Labor to say that their renewables are “cheaper” than nuclear, without being able to say just how much the whole ruinables disaster will cost.

John Brumble
John Brumble
June 24, 2024 7:36 am

Respond to the troll harder. You just didn’t do it right last time.
It wasn’t -real- troll responding. This time it’ll be different. We’re in a post “don’t feed the troll” society. It’s really not feeding the troll that got us to this point.

ffs.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 7:40 am

BBC now have a tag that goes as follows whenever Hamas is mentioned:
“A number of governments have deemed Hamas to be a terrorist organisation”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 7:41 am

Dutton and Albo were in the parliament urinal when Dutton leans over and says “Im going to report you for being a Pedo”.
Albo sputtered and spat out “You have no proof of that, its a lie”!

Duttonn looked at him and said “Well explain how Ive just seen a grown man like you with the penis of a little boy in your hand”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2024 7:42 am

Three-Eyed Fish news (the Courier-Mail):

Six in 10 Australians say they support nuclear energy as a part of the nation’s energy mix, in a boost for Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s ambitious plan to build seven power plants by 2050.

A snapshot survey of 923 randomly selected people conducted by The Courier-Mail across the weekend after the Coalition announced its energy plan found about 60 per cent of voters believed nuclear power “has a place” in Australia’s future energy mix.

Please, please let there be another Labor/Greens convoy to central Quenthland mining towns.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2024 7:47 am

Labor and the Teals seem to’ve been screeching even louder yesterday, especially Paul Keating. It sounds pretty hysterical stuff. Meanwhile AEMO has tentatively put their hand up from the back of the class, saying “Sir, sir, there is something you need to hear about…”

Victoria’s main gas facility running low (Sky News, 24 Jun)

Australia’s energy regulator warns the largest supplier of gas on the nation’s east coast could run out by the end of winter.

Lochard Energy’s Iona facility in northeast Victoria is facing supply disruptions after it was forced to run on reserves due to the winter cold front.

Australia’s Energy Market Operator says resources withdrawn from the facility must be halved to avoid running out by the end of winter.

Going to be fun if they do run out. I wonder what excuses and spittle-flecked howling they’ll come up with to somehow blame Dutton?

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shatterzzz
June 24, 2024 7:49 am

Getting it right .. LOL!

Blow-in
Boambee John
Boambee John
June 24, 2024 7:51 am

On the subject of solar power.

but for the believers it’s like a faith

See the many stupidities of mUntyfa. But is his faith strong enough for him to fit solar panels and a battery to his house, and then disconnect from the grid? Of course not.

The fat fascist fool continued to demonstrate his ignorance overnight.

Rosie
Rosie
June 24, 2024 7:55 am

‘hosting newer industries’
Green concrete. Because for Monty once announced all plans are set in it.

I’d prefer green coal, like they are getting in India and China.

132andBush
132andBush
June 24, 2024 7:59 am

Meanwhile AEMO has tentatively put their hand up from the back of the class, saying “Sir, sir, there is something you need to hear about…”

Bruce, there’s no tentative about it.
AEMO have been trying to tell the idiot politicians for a long time now.

There’s only one solution, as Matrix said on the last thread, the lights have to go out.

Crossie
Crossie
June 24, 2024 8:00 am

Bungonia Bee

 June 24, 2024 7:34 am

Our own p*ss poor media continue to allow Labor to say that their renewables are “cheaper” than nuclear, without being able to say just how much the whole ruinables disaster will cost.

The media are not so much allowing Labor to say it, they are saying it themselves, both are committed to the lies though I cannot work out the media’s motive since they are not getting any of the subsidies proceeds. All I can think of is that it’s a social thing for the media people, that they don’t want to be thought of as being backward like those people in the western suburbs. It’s posh to be for renewables, logic and costing be damned.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 8:01 am

Ever wondered why the ascendant progressive Left politicises everything?

And I mean everything, including the workplace, sport, the arts, the churches, school children & even the CWA?

It stems from a radical modification of Marxist theory: the realisation that economics is downstream from culture. If the Left can take control of the culture, it can shape the worldview of the masses and the Marxist economic program can be more easily implemented.

A primer on Cultural Marxism:

“Cultural Marxism: Imaginary Conspiracy or Revolutionary Reality?”

Robert S. Smith, Themelios 44/3 [edited for the Cat by Roger!]

In the last decade or two, Cultural Marxism has become something of a “boo-hooray word” in Western culture. That is, it’s a term that provokes an almost visceral reaction of either disgust or delight, denunciation or celebration.

From one perspective, this polarised reaction is puzzling. “Cultural Marxism” (also known as Neo-Marxism, Libertarian Marxism, Existential Marxism, or Western Marxism) is a well-established term in academic circles and has appeared in the titles of numerous books and articles that treat it either dispassionately or favourably. It simply refers to a twentieth-century development in Marxist thought that came to view Western culture as a key source of human oppression. Otherwise put, Cultural Marxism is nothing more than the application of Marxist theory to culture.

So why the commotion? The short answer is, due to its deployment by people like Jordan Peterson, Cultural Marxism has come to function as “shorthand for left-wing ideology,” particularly as this manifests in a range “progressive” developments and social justice causes.

For this reason, many on the “left” side of the contemporary “culture wars” not only hear Cultural Marxism as an accusatory “snarl word” (which it often is) but dismiss its validity. Others insist that it explains much that is taking place in our current cultural moment.

What are we to make of all this? Is Cultural Marxism a misnomer? Is it an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory? Or is it an accurate way of describing a real ideology that is making a very real impact on our world?

The Neo-Marxism of Antonio Gramsci

To answer these questions, we begin with the Italian Marxist philosopher, Antonio Gramsci.

Born in Sardinia in 1891 to a working-class family, Gramsci became politically aware in his teens. Nevertheless, it was not until 1913 (at the age of 22) that he first joined a political party: the Italian Socialist party.

Although he was an able student with a very sharp mind, a combination of health problems and financial difficulties, together with his growing political commitment, led him to abandon his studies in early 1915.

At this point Gramsci gave himself fully to political activism and quickly rose to prominence in the Italian Communist party. In 1919, he founded the party newspaper L’Ordine Nuovo (“The New Order”) and, in 1924, become party head.

In 1926, not long after Mussolini had consolidated his power, Gramsci was arrested and charged with attempting to undermine the Italian state. At his trial, the government prosecutor is reported to have said: “For twenty years, we must stop that brain from working.” After conviction, he was sent to the prison island of Ustica.

He was released some eight years later, in 1934, but in a very weakened state. He would only live for another three years, dying in 1937 at the age of 46.

However, during his years of incarceration, Gramsci wrote voluminously. Although slow to emerge, The Prison Notebooks (as they came to be called) have come to have a profound effect upon subsequent generations.

While in prison, Gramsci turned his mind to the question that haunted classical Marxism: Why hadn’t Marx’s predictions worked out in practice? Why, for instance, hadn’t the Russian revolution of 1917 replicated itself in other Western European nations? The answer, Gramsci believed, lay in the persistence of capitalist ideas embedded in the institutions of “civil society” (e.g., the family, the church, trade unions, the education system)—all the consensus-creating elements of society that are independent of “political society” (e.g., the police, the army, the legal system).

All of this required a major rethink of Marx’s philosophy. For Marx, the material conditions of economic existence (“the base”) determine all other aspects of society (“the superstructure”).

Gramsci believed this was back to front. Although there might be an interplay between material life conditions and intellectual life processes, it is the latter that largely determines the former. Otherwise put, culture is not downstream from economics, but economics is downstream from culture.

The significance of this inversion of classical Marxism is profound. What it means is that if you want to change the economic structure of society, you must first change the cultural institutions that socialise people into believing and behaving according to the dictates of the capitalist system. The only way to do this is by cutting the roots of Western civilisation – in particular, its Judeo-Christian values, for these (supposedly) are what provide the capitalist root system. In short, unless and until Western culture is dechristianised, Western society will never be decapitalised.

How might this be accomplished? By an army of Marxist intellectuals undertaking (what was later called) “the long march through the institutions of power”; that is, by gradually colonising and ultimately controlling all the key institutions of civil society. As Gramsci put it, “In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.”

Gramsci has been a major influence on a range of philosophers, historians, sociologists, educationalists, and, especially, cultural theorists. Indeed, the whole discipline of “cultural studies” is largely the result of his influence and his impact on the humanities and social sciences has been nothing short of immense.

While Cultural Marxism was not a term Gramsci ever used, it accurately describes his neo-Marxist philosophy.

The Frankfurt School

Nor was Gramsci alone in thinking along these lines. While he was languishing on Ustica, a group of German Marxist intellectuals, quite unaware of The Prison Notebooks, was exploring similar ideas. This brings us to a consideration of the work of the Frankfurt School.

The origins of the Frankfurt School can be traced to 1923, when the radical Hungarian Marxist, György Lukács, was invited to chair a week-long symposium in Frankfurt, Germany. Out of this came a vision for a Marxist think-tank and research centre, modelled after the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow.

While the early work of the “The Institute for Social Research” – its eventual formal name – moved in a classically Marxist direction, this all changed in 1930 when Max Horkheimer (1895–1973), a young philosophy professor at Frankfurt University, took over as Director. Under his leadership, the School quickly moved in a decidedly neo-Marxist direction.

Like Gramsci, Horkheimer was convinced that the major obstacle to human liberation was the capitalist ideology embedded in traditional Western culture. That, fundamentally, was what needed exposing, criticising and changing.

To help in this task, Horkheimer recruited a range of up-and-coming Marxist intellectuals – notably, Theodore Adorno (1903–1969) and Herbert Marcuse (1898–1979) – who could help to blend classical Marxist doctrines with both Darwinian sociology and Freudian psychology. The aim was to produce a new, synthesised form of Marxism that would do the job that classical Marxism failed to do; radically transform Western culture and so help pave the way for a communist utopia.

In 1933, however, when the Nazis came to power, most members of the Frankfurt School (being not only communists but also Jewish) were forced to flee the country. Initially, they relocated to Geneva, where they already had a satellite campus. But eventually, they settled in the United States and, in 1935, the Institute for Social Research affiliated with Columbia University, New York City. The School did not return to Frankfurt until 1951.

The birth of Critical Theory

The chief collective enterprise of the Frankfurt School was the development of Critical Theory, a form of incisive social critique aimed at undermining the status quo in the hope of changing society for the better. Critical Theory stands opposed to (what Horkheimer called) Traditional Theory, which aimed only at explaining society.

Despite its desired positive outcomes, Critical Theory is an essentially negative exercise. In part, this reflects the pessimism of Adorno and Horkheimer, who feared that “the possibility of radical social change had been smashed between the twin cudgels of concentration camps and television for the masses.”

Consequently, Critical Theory was long on trenchant, unremitting criticism of any aspect of Western culture that was deemed to be oppressive or dehumanising, but short on constructive proposals. As Marcuse wrote at the very end of his 1964 book, One Dimensional Man:

The critical theory of society possesses no concepts which could bridge the gap between the present and its future; holding no promise and showing no success, it remains negative. Thus it wants to remain loyal to those who, without hope, have given and give their life to the Great Refusal.

Assessing the Work of the Frankfurt School

Assessing the work of the Frankfurt School is no simple task. Not only did members come and go (and one, tragically, committed suicide), but the line between members and associates was not always clear. Furthermore, even those who belonged to the inner circle sometimes had strongly differing opinions and also underwent significant developments in their thought. The School was, thus, neither uniform nor fixed in its views. Horkheimer, for example, became increasingly theological in his reflections over time and even flirted with Catholicism toward the end of his life.

Nevertheless, the primary project of the Frankfurt School was clear and unwavering: to identify the economic and social structures that had been created by industrial capitalism and to critique the ideas that defended the disparities of class and race. For this reason, the label “Cultural Marxism” is a fitting description of the school’s philosophy. This is evident from Stephen Bronner’s summary:

The Frankfurt School called outworn concepts into question. Its members looked at cultural ruins and lost hopes and what hegemonic cultural forces had ignored or repressed. They demanded that those committed to the ideal of liberation respond to new contingencies and new constraints. They also intimated the need for a new understanding of the relation between theory and practice.

Of course, no proper assessment of the Frankfurt School can be made without appreciating the historical context in which it developed, and its work was carried out. Living through the horrors of World War I (1914–1918), the failed Spartacist Uprising in Germany (1919), the experience of the Great Depression (1929–1939) and the rise of both Nazism and anti-Semitism (1932–1945) gave the members of the Institute plenty to critique and genuine reasons for pessimism. The dislocation of being émigré scholars, the destructiveness of World War II and, finally, the Jewish Holocaust (1939–1945) only added to their anxieties. For all these reasons, “it appeared to the Frankfurt School as if Western civilization had generated not human development but an unparalleled barbarism.” Critical Theory needs to be understood against this backdrop.

Moreover, even after their move to the US, when their focus shifted to the domination of the “cultural industry” and the manipulation of mass society, their criticisms were not without point. For example, Horkheimer and Adorno’s conviction that “the system of cultural production dominated by film, radio broadcasting, newspapers, and magazines, was controlled by advertising and commercial imperatives, and served to create subservience to the system of consumer capitalism” is difficult to gainsay.

Likewise, their contention that, under such conditions, the apparent freedom to choose “everywhere proves to be freedom to be the same” is also salutary. Finally, their concern for the fate of the individual in mass society is insightful and commendable.

Nevertheless, a recognition of valid insights ought not to be confused with an endorsement of critical theory as a whole. As we have seen, the general consensus of the Frankfurt School members was that Western civilisation was effectively responsible for all the manifestations of aggression, oppression, racism, slavery, classism and sexism that marked post-industrial society. Marcuse even went so far as to call democracy “the most efficient system of domination.”

Such a view, however, is not only simplistic but an indefensible misrepresentation of historical reality. While the track-record of Western civilisation is far from unblemished, to demonise the key elements and attainments of Western culture is both myopic and ungrateful. Likewise, criticising an imperfect system when you have no idea how to build a better one is more than idealistic; it is irresponsible.

Furthermore, as we have noted, the writings of the Frankfurt School are plagued by an unresolved tension between utopianism and pessimism—a tension that sometimes reflects differences between different members of the school and at other times appears within the works of individual authors. While the tension is partially comprehensible when viewed as a dialectic between what is and what could be, the future is always vague and, ultimately, unrealisable.

Consequently, the overall message that emerges is one of hopelessness. This explains why Lukács ended up referring to the school as the “Grand Hotel Abyss.”

The Lasting Impact of The Frankfurt School

What can be said regarding the lasting impact of the Frankfurt School? In a provocative speech given in January 2018, the German journalist, Robert Grözinger, likened the impact of the School to the story of the “Sorcerer’s Apprentice” by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. For Grözinger, one line of Goethe’s original poem is particularly poignant: “The spirits which I summoned, I now cannot get rid of.” In Grözinger’s view, the members of the Frankfurt School set in motion a whole generation of “hobgoblins” – the (so called) “68ers” – but, like the sorcerer’s apprentice, were increasingly appalled by the “terrible waters” they had unleashed.

There is strong evidence of this, especially in the case of Adorno. For example, in a 1969 interview, he distanced himself from the revolutionaries, declaring, “When I made my theoretical model, I could not have guessed that people would try to realise it with Molotov cocktails.”

Marcuse, however, was of a different mind. He was proud of the influence the Frankfurt School had exerted on the sixties’ revolution, and criticised Adorno for labelling the student radicals as “fascists.” Indeed, such was Marcuse’s influence on the student protest movement that, at the Paris riots of May ’68, protesters held up placards with the names “Marx/Mao/Marcuse” emblazoned on them.

Moreover, there is ample evidence that Marcuse’s legacy lives on. Not only did he teach a generation of budding intellectuals to detest their own culture and history, but many then went on to infect subsequent generations with a desire to completely ‘burn the house down.’ Not surprisingly, as Alexander Zubatov writes,

It is a short step from Marcuse’s “repressive tolerance” to political correctness, free speech crackdowns, no-platforming, and the epidemic of boorish and thuggish university “protests,” Antifa intimidation and violence directed against illusory “fascists.”

Cultural Marxism: Fact or fiction?

It is time to return to our questions: Is Cultural Marxism a myth? A misnomer? An anti-Semitic conspiracy theory? Or is it an accurate way of describing a real ideology that is making a very real impact on our world?

It would be both simplistic and unwarranted to lay the entire blame for the contemporary civilisation crisis in the West at the feet of either the Frankfurt School or Antonio Gramsci. Many other theorists and activists have helped create our current cultural moment (e.g., Sartre, Beauvoir, Foucault, Derrida, Althusser, Kristiva, Said, Badiou, Rorty, Butler, etc.) and numerous historical and technological streams have helped feed our present political divisions—not least, the advent of social media. And, as always, there are equal dangers on the extreme right as there are on the extreme left.

Furthermore, in regard to the Frankfurt School, since the 1970s, and particularly under the leadership of Jürgen Habermas and, more recently, Axel Honneth, its focus and energies have moved in a much more positive and productive direction.

Nevertheless, as ongoing interest in and reference to their work testifies, there is no denying that the first generation of the Frankfurt School (in general) and Marcuse (in particular) have played a significant role in shaping the contours of the current culture wars. Political correctness, the new intolerant-tolerance and ever-increasing erotic liberty are part of their legacy. Similarly, Gramsci’s ideas have also borne very real (and not particularly appetising) fruit – not least in the arena of identity politics, intersectionality and the rise of victimhood culture (today’s versions of “class consciousness”).

The answer to our first two questions, then, is straightforward: rightly understood, Cultural Marxism is neither a myth nor a misnomer. While not a label worn by either Gramsci or the early Frankfurt School, it helpfully describes the particular form of Marxist ideology they pioneered, and it is a label many of their disciples have been more than happy to apply to them and to wear themselves…

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 8:02 am

Media Approves Climate Change!
Or at least weather change – Snowy Hydro has continued to run a cloud seeding program to increase rain and snow.

Rosie
Rosie
June 24, 2024 8:06 am

Reading through that article Vaers records all events that occurred within x days of vaccination, it doesn’t mean all those events were caused by the vaccination.
Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc.
Were the events higher than the background rate?
Don’t know, and Gateway Pundit doesn’t care.
And just because something gets published in ooh aah Lancet doesn’t make it true.
At least that’s what many here have been saying for years.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 8:09 am

Every time Labor/Teals/Greens or their media mates say things like “nuclear will take too long” or boosting gas supplies will take too long, they need to be reminded that they are responsible for the delays which have meant that sensible base load power is still not available from anything except the effective but dwindling number of coal fired power stations – which are still doing the big numbers of megawatts that keep us afloat, but only just.

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Rosie
Rosie
June 24, 2024 8:09 am

“Most of the left-leaning media will not resist the temptation to present the “Palestinian strapped to front of Jeep” story as another instance of IDF brutality.”
While perfectly okay with hostages, old young, dead and alive being paraded through the streets of Gaza.
The Palestinian was a terrorist caught in a shoot out, still it probably wasn’t the wisest thing an IDF soldier ever did.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2024 8:20 am

I think playing golf on the Moon would be great fun, you could drive a ball miles and miles. Elon should build a golf course there.

PGA Tour chaos as protestors storm green during Travelers Championship final day (24 Jun)

Five protestors armed with flares stormed the green at the Travelers Championship, just as Scottie Scheffler and Tom Kim were preparing to take their putts. The police swiftly tackled the intruders amidst the ensuing chaos. … Other protestors brandished red smoke as they were detained by the police. After several minutes of confusion, all the protestors were handcuffed and escorted away by security, while the crowd chanted “USA! ” and booed. …

Protestors were seen sporting shirts with the slogan: “No golf on a dead planet.”

Be nice if plod and the courts could exert themselves and do something to stop this rubbish.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 8:23 am

Were the events higher than the background rate?

When the state effectively forces you to take the vaccine by actively punishing people through loss of employment, social death etc then it doesnt matter at all, you werent allowed the opt out.

Its brought regular vaccination into disrepute, caused millions of excess deaths worldwide through despair/missed cancer diagnoses etc, and the economic wash will last a decade or more.

Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2024 8:26 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 24, 2024 8:30 am

The cover-up tells you all that you need to know.
Well, the years-long second round of peer-review by a peer-review paper tells you everything else.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 24, 2024 8:30 am

I see that the Govt of St Volodymyr the Pure is up to its usual standard.

An ATACAMS missile has hit a group of children playing at a beach in Sevastopol.
6 dead, dozens injured.

These missiles fly a pre-progammed route to their destination, so the beach was definitely its intended target.

Given the dearth of weapons available to the “democracy loving” Nazi’s in Kiev, I struggle to understand the rationale, behind targeting kids playing at a beach, rather than say, Russian Communication Centres or assembly areas etc.

Perhaps some of the greater strategic thinkers with enormous military experience, (Knuckle Dragger, Bespoke or Pogria), could enlighten me.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2024 8:32 am

Please don’t give AEMO any credit.
It’s peopled by bureaucrats and energy execs, steering green policy and corporate freebies.
Very short on engineers with the freedom to tell the truth. The gas shortage has been a long time coming and the actions of Dictator Dan could have been called out years ago.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2024 8:37 am

m0nty June 23, 2024 11:06 pm

You were talking about three months, Sancho. Day and night.

You and the other windwatcher anoraks like Rafe all soiling yourselves watching the dashboards and giggling about the low numbers for solar… but the stats don’t even include most solar power consumption because it doesn’t reach the market in the first place.

Rooftop solar has an installed capacity of something over 20GW – which is equivalent to around 40% of the total installed generation capacity in the NEM. So a very large installed capacity compared to average total household demand of around 6GW.

And it’s quite true that most of it doesn’t reach the market.

Firstly, without battery storage most household rooftop PV installations don’t send out any power unless the household (or locally connected group of households) are ‘on load’. And only around 20% of rooftop PV installations have battery storage.

Very few of those sunny electrons make it back past the local 415/240v distribution transformers and into the NEM. That’s a tedious electrical engineering grid design anorak sort of thing.

Therefore, from a network perspective, rooftop solar adds nothing significant to supply, but forces wholesale prices negative when peak rooftop pulls household demand out of the NEM. The upshot is curtailment of NEM generating assets and the revenue uncertainty that is discouraging new renewables investment and making Chris Bowen very, very sad.

Luckily, AEMO has Top Men working on this wicked problem.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2024 8:45 am

But Faustus
Blackout Bowen said he was “rewiring” the nation. Surely that meant the rooftop solar would be grid connected and utilised to fit the AEMO storage targets.
It’s as if the whole thing is one giant f**ck up!

Tom
Tom
June 24, 2024 8:49 am

Cassie at 6.29am:

Leak captures handsome boy perfectly.

I agree. But I also laughed out loud at his rendition of Mr Potato Head.

Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2024 8:55 am
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 8:57 am

Not a great sign that Russia is straight onto blaming NATO/USA for the 2 seperate attacks.

Im not going to feculate on false flag/set ups/accident or anything, just note that it appears one or both sides are crossing a fairly significant line by blaming or supplying attacks on civilians.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 24, 2024 8:58 am

Getting more and more empowered by spineless flogs in government and police brass. Daily Telegraph:

A man has been arrested after police found him in possession of capsicum spray and a knife inside a church in Sydney’s east overnight.

Police were called to St Mary Magdalene Church on New South Head Rd in Rose Bay shortly before 6.30pm following reports of a man acting suspiciously inside a church.

Officers arrived and spoke to a 36-year-old man.

He was searched and found to be in possession of capsicum spray and a multi-tool with a knife.

He was arrested and taken to Waverley Police Station and charged with possessing a prohibited weapon and custody of a knife.

The Bangor man was granted conditional bail to appear at the Downing Centre Local Court on July 26.

Given bail so might give him time to escalate.
I never knew that along with your Bible and a jelly slice to share with fellow parishioners that capsicum spray and a knife were other items needed at the Sunday sermon.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 9:00 am

Sky UK provides another panic-laden report on Terrible Heat (40c) being experienced in Europe. They also used that dodgy term “Climate Scientists”.
Unfortunately it’s a term undermined by the fact that (i) most of them are catastrophists, and (ii) they don’t like any of the science that suggests that the climate changes over time and (iii) they tend to believe that places like Australia can help influence the climate by impoverishing itself with stupid alternative energy generation plans when it is only responsible for a minute amount of the so-called dangerous emissions. They ignore the outrageous increases in emissions by China while encouraging the purchase of bird slicers and solar panels from China.

Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2024 9:00 am
Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 9:03 am

Victoria’s main gas facility to run out by end of winter

Perry Williams, Rhiannan Down, The Australian 23 June, 2024

The nation is facing a deepening energy crisis on two fronts, with gas shortages so acute that Vic­toria’s main storage plant is set to run out by the end of winter and one of Australia’s biggest manufacturers warning it will slash jobs and close factories if supplies ­remain short.

As the political battle rages over energy policy, there is also concern about supplies from the country’s wind farms, with output slumping to a five-year low.

The east coast was last week plunged into a fresh energy emergency amid warnings of gas shortages after supply disruptions and a winter cold snap triggered a run on reserves.

The Australian can reveal that the energy regulator cautioned the industry that the largest supplier of gas storage on the east coast, Lochard Energy’s Iona ­facility in northeast Victoria, could run out of gas before the end of winter.

The Australian Energy Market Operator told industry and gas users on Thursday that the drawdown from the Iona facility ­needed to be halved from about 400 terajoules a day to an average of 200 to avoid it running dry.

The situation has also triggered a warning from Orica, one of Australia’s biggest gas users, which said it faced a decision over cutting production and jobs at its Newcastle plant unless conditions in the gas market improved.

Orica is a major supplier of ­explosives to the mining industry but said it might be forced to ­import ammonia for its Kooragang Island manufacturing plant in Newcastle in the next few years if not enough affordable gas was available.

German Morales, Orica’s president for Australia Pacific and sustainability, told The Australian that “there is not enough gas and there is not affordable gas”.

“Clearly if we fail to secure long-term gas at a reasonable market price, we may be put in a position of rethinking what is the manufacturing strategy for ammonia in Australia,” he said.

“The Australian gas price is significantly more expensive than that you can buy in other jurisdictions, such as the US. That’s making it very difficult to justify manufacturing in Australia.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2024 9:06 am

Watch out for falling Chinese rockets.

SpaceX Leads Reusable Rocket Race, While China Continues Crashing Boosters To Earth (24 Jun)

Pivoting to China, where reusable rockets have yet to be deployed, a Long March 2C rocket launched days ago shows the rocket booster falling back to Earth, landing in a populated area with people running for cover.

Also be sure to drive carefully…

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Boambee John
Boambee John
June 24, 2024 9:08 am

A recent Quadrant On-Line article reports the strong support of the Australian Academy of Science for nuclear power generation in Australia.

It also includes condemnation by the former head of ANSTO of the woeful CSIRO GenCost model.

Somehow, I doubt that AnAl or his unintelligent acolytes (hi mUntyfa) will read it.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2024 9:11 am

Dutton should also announce a complete review and restructure of AEMO.
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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 24, 2024 9:11 am

Apparently Terrence Howard, the actor, has created a new mathematics he calls ‘Terryology’.

His core proof hinges upon the terryological equation

1 x 1 = 2

He starts with language – to multiply is to make more. (Apparently he has never heard of fractions.)

Then he looks at how that works in mathematics. Well, when you multiply 2 numbers ‘a x b’ you are adding ‘a’ to itself ‘b’ times. Hence

2 x 4 = 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 and 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 8

Obviously just writing the above you can see that you are only adding ‘2’ to the original ‘2’ three times to get the 4 twos. And that is where he seems to be going wrong. He thinks that in ‘1 x 1’ you have to add one to itself one time. So

1 x 1 = 1 + 1 (where he has added one to itself once) and 1 + 1 = 2

But in these days where people think they can become the opposite sex if they ‘feel’ it I would not be surprised to hear some people think this valid because mathematical rules are only binding if you allow yourself to submit to them. And since Mr Howard is black will we starting hearing this as part of black maths and if you don’t accept it you are a white supremacist.

If it becomes black maths then it will take care of the claims for reparations. All you do is grab a box with a hole in the top. You drop a one dollar coin in once. That is 1 x 1, so you now have two dollars. hen you put your two dollars into the slot once and then you keep repeating.

1 x 1 = 1 + 1 = 2

2 x 1 = 2 + 2 (adding 2 to itself one time) = 4

4 x 1 = 4 + 4 = 8

etc.

After doing this 25 times they will have clocked up $33.5 million from a terryological point of view. Still only $1 from our point of view, but who wants to be a white supremacist?

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 24, 2024 9:13 am

https://californiaglobe.com/…/california-supreme-court…/

We were shocked and angered by the California Supreme Court’s decision on Thursday in Legislature v. Weber, the outrageous lawsuit filed by Gov. Gavin Newsom and state legislative leaders. The lawsuit asked the court to order the removal of our duly qualified initiative, the Taxpayer Protection and Government Accountability Act, from the November ballot in order to prevent voters from passing it.

No wonder people are leaving this Marxist shithole as soon as they can.

2dogs
2dogs
June 24, 2024 9:21 am

Nukes are not needed, wanted, or economically viable at all.

If this true, Mont, why is that Germany is never greener or cheaper than France?

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086136952509

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2024 9:23 am

Our own p*ss poor media continue to allow Labor to say that their renewables are “cheaper” than nuclear, without being able to say just how much the whole ruinables disaster will cost.

Dutton has one solution at his disposal: release his own costings. Absent that, he is pissing in the wind.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2024 9:26 am

Digging up prime farmland to get the green revolution fuelled.
Note the nice bit at the end about returning the land to ‘non mining’ use.
I’m sure it would be just as good as before, no effect on productivity or soil stability.
https://earthresources.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/461758/Mineral-Sands-Fact-sheet-March-2022.pdf

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 9:30 am

Journos fall for spin as they tiptoe around China

Chris Mitchell The Australian 23 June, 2024

If facts can no longer be accepted by the community, let alone by reporters, then journalism is being destroyed by opinion. Social media certainly gives the ill-informed the ability to trumpet opinions more widely than in earlier eras, but much of the wider triumph of opinion is down to cheap clicks to online media businesses and shouty content in traditional media that consumers can agree with. Reporters have a duty to swim against this tide. News coverage of last week’s visit by Chinese Premier Li Qiang is illustrative.

Had China’s diplomats not tried to shut out Sky News Australia reporter Cheng Lei from two Canberra events, our media would have let Prime Minister Anthony Albanese get away with a largely false narrative: he and Foreign Minister Penny Wong are repairing the China relationship broken by Albanese’s predecessor, Scott Morrison.

Patricia Karvelas said as much on Friday when she introduced Defence Minister Richard Marles on ABC Radio National.

Australia, Karvelas said, had made progress in re-setting its “once shattered” relationship with China.

Yet public outrage at China’s bullying of Cheng Lei, an Australian wrongly jailed for three years by Beijing, effectively undermined that Labor narrative. If ever Australians could see the ugly face of China’s bullying, watching Chinese officials inside Australia’s parliament trying to stop cameras filming an Australian journalist left no doubt China disrespects Australia.

Political journalists who have played along with the myth of the Coalition destroying Australia’s China relationship should hang their heads in shame.

The rift started during Malcolm Turnbull’s prime ministership when, in August 2018, Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei was banned from the 5G telecommunications rollout on security advice.

Other countries followed soon after, including the US, Japan, India, New Zealand, Singapore, Norway and Denmark. In April 2019, Labor ruled out reversing the Huawei ban if it was to win that year’s election.

The Huawei ban here came only months after Turnbull first flagged new foreign interference legislation in June 2018. Turnbull was right on both counts.

The Australia-China relationship really hit the rocks at the end of January 2020, when prime minister Morrison banned flights from China in the early stages of the spread of Covid-19, and then called for an international investigation into the emergence of the pandemic in the city of Wuhan. Morrison was right on both counts.

China responded with a series of bans and restrictions on Australian exports. Barley, wine, lobsters and beef from some abattoirs was banned. Some local restrictions were applied on shipments of Australian coal. This all came despite the China-Australia free trade agreement signed in 2015 by Tony Abbott’s Coalition government.

Last week on Sky News’ Sunday Agenda and on ABC’s 7.30 on Tuesday, Trade Minister Don Farrell was given soft treatment to claim the Labor government’s diplomatic efforts were succeeding in having those bans reversed.

The truth is that just as China’s bullying of Cheng Lei backfired, its strategy of using trade to punish Australia for speaking up on Covid was a spectacular own goal. Some of the world’s leading economics and foreign policy journals, including The Economist, The Atlantic and Foreign Policy, have not only called out the failure of China’s bullying but praised Australia for resisting pressure from the world’s number two economy.

In November 2021, Foreign Policy wrote: “But if Beijing hoped to punish Canberra for its defiance with economic pain – and send a warning to other countries not to oppose China – it has failed on both counts. The impacts on Australia have so far been surprisingly minimal. That fact will not be lost on other countries that have differences with China.”

Many Australian journalists during the China freeze seemed unaware of the reality of our economic position. Partly because of rising coal and iron ore prices – and partly because our most affected exporters found alternative markets – China’s bans were estimated by a Productivity Commission report to have cost us nine one-thousandths of a percentage point of GDP, or less than $225m.

As The Australian’s Tom Dusevic reported on July 24 last year, if anything, the bans “have been an inglorious own goal for our largest trading partner”. While that sum would have been tough for some producers, many journalists reacted as if Australia was on its knees. And while it’s better in diplomacy to shout as little as possible and have disagreements behind closed doors, the evidence is China was determined to subjugate Australia, at least economically, and had been doing so for decades before the export bans.

A report by Peter Hartcher in The Sydney Morning Herald on November 7 last year argued “we received public notice of Beijing’s intentions to dominate Australia in a revelation in 2005”. A Chinese diplomat working at the Sydney consulate defected. The diplomat, Chen Yonglin, said the Communist Party of China “had begun a structured effort to infiltrate Australia’’ because it saw us as a “weak link in the Western camp”. This was much more than just spying. “The party ran an influence campaign, partly through its United Front organisations operating in Australia. Rich business people were dispatched to live in Australia to set up empires of influence. Their methods included political donations, sponsored trips to China, major investments and board appointments,” Hartcher wrote.

Between 2005 and the start of the pandemic, China’s share of our exports rose from 12 per cent to 38 per cent. Even the US thought Australia could flip. Hartcher quotes White House Indo-Pacific co-ordinator Kurt Campbell confirming that Washington thought this possible. But by early 2022, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told the SMH: “I think China has lost more than Australia has in its efforts to squeeze Australia economically.”

This newspaper’s foreign editor, Greg Sheridan, last Tuesday nailed the real import of the Cheng Lei incident: it revealed Albanese’s weakness. The PM had already appeared weak when he seemed not to have raised with China’s President, Xi Jinping, at an APEC meeting in San Francisco last November the Chinese navy’s firing of sonar at Australian naval divers only days before.

While many journalists tiptoe around such issues, the public pounced last week. Why was an Australian journalist being bullied by Chinese officials inside Australia’s parliament?

Discussing our China trade relationship, reporters should have been led by the facts rather than by Labor’s spin. The Coalition did a lot wrong during the Abbott-Turnbull-Morrison years, but it mostly got China right and it certainly got the AUKUS submarine partnership with the US and UK right.

Journalists need to take care not to appear to be pushing the false narratives of their preferred side of politics.

Pace Chris Mitchell… Journalists aren’t just falling for spin; in some instances they are the ones spinning the facts and doing so in the interests of a belligerent foreign power.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
June 24, 2024 9:30 am
cohenite
June 24, 2024 9:33 am

Great toons this morning. I actually laughed at this one:

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AEMO NSW electricity production at 9am:

Coal 81%
Gas 8%
Solar 9%
Wind 1%

World in Data: safest energy source based on deaths and CO2 emissions= nuclear:

What are the safest and cleanest sources of energy? – Our World in Data

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2024 9:34 am

Not one costing of renewables calculates the reduction in agricultural output and the reduction productive activity.
ABARE could pop that number out tomorrow but nobody is asking. Nuclear would have next to no impact on the food producing sector or the environment for that matter. The Greens have screamed for years that the loss of environment should be given a value but have now fallen silent when the bulldozers clear the land for renewables.

cohenite
June 24, 2024 9:40 am

Dickless is up early frothing and asking questions about costs.

 Paul Graham, CSIRO’s Chief Energy Economist, is the man who can help answer them.

“Back in 2017, our analysis estimated that it would cost Australia a trillion dollars to convert to renewables,” says Dr Graham. “The knowledge we’ve gained since then on changes in technology costs cuts that figure in half. It’s now more like $500 billion, which is a pretty good improvement in a very short space of time. And to be clear, the cost would be greater if we decided to rebuild coal.”

Snowy went from $2 billion to now > $20 billion from 2017 to 2022

Dept of climate change, energy, the environment and water
Off shore wind costs 4-5 billion per GW
Illawarra is 2.9GW = $12 to 15 billion Does not include infrastructure, poles and wires, underwater cables consensers, back-up, or subsidies. 2 types: direct payments which Dr Alan Moran estimates at 16 billion PA. The other are large Scale Generation Certificates which W&S can issue based on when they are working and which the coal producers have to buy. Currently estimated at $2 billion PA. W&S also get first preference to sell their power to the grid, 35% of the time. During that time coal cannot sell but has to keep operating at great expense. Not privatisation. Gov’t interference is the problem.

One question to ask Blackout or any renewable advocate: what is their capacity factor: AEMO last 24 hours coal 74%, gas 9%, hydro,10%, W&S 6%.

In February 2020, the Australian Government announced it would provide up to $4 million to support a feasibility study for a coal fired power station.1 The study is into a July 2019 proposal by Shine Energy to raise $2 billion by October 2020 to begin construction on a 1 GW “ultra-supercritical” coal-fired power station (sometimes referred to as the “Dhalgan Energy Park”) at the site of Queensland’s now-closed Collinsville coal plant.

So New coal is $2 billion per GW

The difference between coal (and nuclear) and W&S is coal works.

Nuclear: the most advanced water cooled nuclear is called EPR, European Pressurized Reactors, Only 2 completed China: in Taishan . The projects, with an estimated cost of USD $7.5 billion were completed in 2018 and 2019. The size of Taishan is 3.5GW so cost $1.2 billion per GW.

Other EPR projects are not completed in England, France and Finland and have been subject to protests, court challenges and fines: France’s EDF Energy Hinkley Point C, said it had taken a €12.9bn (£11bn) impairment charge on the project, weeks after it blamed inflation, Covid and Brexit for a four-year delay and extra £2.3bn bill for the Somerset plant. It has also spent nearly 2 years in court held up by green protestors

As of May 2024, Russia and China collectively have 29 commercial reactors under construction. The U.S. has one

Bill Gates Terra Power Wyoming on old coal power plant site .5GW $4 billion 5-6 years to build. This a new type: Natrium not water cooled, molten salts, less uranium, less waste. China already has a natrium reactor, a small one, started in 2021 and is building a 1.7 GW new one.

So suck on that dickless.

132andBush
132andBush
June 24, 2024 9:45 am

The Greens have screamed for years that the loss of environment should be given a value but have now fallen silent when the bulldozers clear the land for renewables.

The large scale befoulment of the Western District and Wimmera has to be seen to be believed.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2024 9:45 am

Seeds of hate sown with renewables.
I can assure the blog that the few who sign up for renewables end up infuriating the many who then are stuck with these monstrosities and have a kilometre of their land commandeered as a buffer zone.
It’s real and it’s very ugly. People who have been neighbours and friends for generations no longer talk to each other and the usual public events, like sport or social gatherings now have tension in the air.
What’s the costing for that Monty?

Crossie
Crossie
June 24, 2024 9:54 am

In 1933, however, when the Nazis came to power, most members of the Frankfurt School (being not only communists but also Jewish) were forced to flee the country. Initially, they relocated to Geneva, where they already had a satellite campus. But eventually, they settled in the United States and, in 1935, the Institute for Social Research affiliated with Columbia University, New York City. The School did not return to Frankfurt until 1951.

It makes perfect sense that Columbia University is ground zero for the current protests and student occupation of university campuses. Let them permanently close down Columbia since it no longer has anything to offer future students or society at large.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 10:04 am

m0nster bleating that the AEMO generation stats exclude rooftop solar, which he says would take the three monthly Renewballs figure from 18% to 40%. He provides no evidence for arriving at this unmetered figure.
In any case it is largely irrelevant to the argument. The total quarterly figure of “public utility generation” is about 550 Gigglewatt hours, and it needs to be explained how Renewballs are going to generate another 400 Gigglewatt hours to replace coal and gas.
It won’t come from Hydro, because dams are banned.
The point about rooftop solar actually cuts against him because I think we have reached peak domestic solar. A lot of those installations are older and we’re installed when feed-in tariffs (bait) were very generous. I see rooftop solar declining without massive subsidies.
Which leaves us with wind and solar – or wind and battery after dark. Given the sweet spots for wind have largely been taken up already, how does he see this yuuuge amount of power being provided to the same level of reliability we have with coal and gas?

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2024 10:05 am

Hamas don’t seem to like dogs very much.

Why Hamas Supporters are Libeling Israeli Dogs (Daniel Greenfield, 23 Jun)

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2024 10:07 am

Roger @ 9:03 am

Victoria’s main gas facility to run out by end of winter 

The nation is facing a deepening energy crisis on two fronts, with gas shortages so acute that Vic­toria’s main storage plant is set to run out by the end of winter and one of Australia’s biggest manufacturers warning it will slash jobs and close factories if supplies ­remain short.

This gas shortage hasn’t happened by accident, or just, sort of, crept up. And it’s actually not due to Big Gas chortling all the way to the bank.

This is the fully anticipated and carefully explained unexpected outcome of burning huge volumes of gas through inefficient turbines to prop up intermittent renewables.

I’m on the road and the numbers are not at my fingertips, but the 2023/24 numbers are something very like 550PJ of gas burned in gas powered generation – a huge amount, roughly a third of Australia’s gas production. Compared to around 100PJ 20 years ago.

Top Men in Canbra imagine increasing gas production to be a simple matter of cracking open a valve somewhere.

To lesser people, tedious Little People in HiViz with slide rules, production of this additional volume of gas is a very complex, long-lead-time, industry-wide investment matter – not best helped by the intervention of government spankers and experts.

To my certain knowledge, this has been pointed out, in various fora, almost continuously, for the past 15 years.

Vicki
Vicki
June 24, 2024 10:12 am

Firstly, without battery storage most household rooftop PV installations don’t send out any power unless the household (or locally connected group of households) are ‘on load’. And only around 20% of rooftop PV installations have battery storage.

This is all a mystery to my non-technical mind. But at this very moment husband is on the phone to our provider suggesting that either the meter is wrong or we are being dudded. Our last bill recorded identical readings on each of three days – which has not been recorded before. We were also in Sydney at the time.

We don’t have battery storage, but then our system does send directly to the grid & we also access our solar power on the property.

The operator at the provider was quite aggressive, but when husband just said he will have go to the ombudsman, she immediately transferred him to the manager. This bloke is far more responsive. Husband has just said he doesn’t know how they are recording because we don’t have mobile reception at the solar system. Manager is non-committal. We shall see.

132andBush
132andBush
June 24, 2024 10:13 am

People who have been neighbours and friends for generations no longer talk to each other and the usual public events, like sport or social gatherings now have tension in the air.

What’s the costing for that Monty?

Fantasy football doesn’t require a crowd or community.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 24, 2024 10:17 am

Talking points out yet?

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 10:18 am

Let them permanently close down Columbia since it no longer has anything to offer future students or society at large.

Not going to happen; Columbia is privately owned and operated by its board of trustees, all of whom are Columbia graduates.

Previously, when Columbia was a bastion of conservatism, the trustees were NYC notables. After 1968, when they were criticised for calling in police to disband demonstrators, they began to make concessions to students.

We’re now into the second generation of former students running the institution.

A text-book case in how the prog-left operates.

Fun fact: the current Vice-Chair is married to Obama’s former WH Press Secretary.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 10:23 am

You know its kind of funny, most of greenies claims are wrecked by nukes.

Small footprint = less natural destruction.
Nuke energy to generate gas = fracking becomes unviable.
Nuke energy to generate power = coal becomes unviable (at out current “kill coal” penalties

But hey … simpsons 3 eyed fish!!

Also anyone want to bet money their ABCcess just happens to rerun a few nuclear disaster films/series in the next month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2024 10:24 am

Ronnie RAAF, earlier, and clearly still smarting from previous interactions (backhanders) on this august journal of record:

Perhaps some of the greater strategic thinkers with enormous military experience, (Knuckle Dragger, Bespoke or Pogria), could enlighten me

Here’s some enlightenment for you, Ron:

Your confirmation bias is showing. You have a grasp of geopolitics only matched with mUnter, and no conflict anywhere on the globe is safe from your analysis which could easily be mistaken for that of Hannibal, Alexander, Napoleon, Monash, Manstein or Eisenhower.

However – comfy sheets, little blue horizontal caps and aircon don’t count.

Ronnie RAAF, flying the friendly skies. 8 to 4, Monday to Friday, except for a two hour lunch. Public holidays excluded. Flexitime available.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2024 10:25 am

Also anyone want to bet money their ABCcess just happens to rerun a few nuclear disaster films/series in the next month?

Children! Duck and cover!

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 10:29 am

This gas shortage hasn’t happened by accident, or just, sort of, crept up. And it’s actually not due to Big Gas chortling all the way to the bank.

This is the fully anticipated and carefully explained unexpected outcome of burning huge volumes of gas through inefficient turbines to prop up intermittent renewables.

State government (Liberal & Labor) bans on exploration didn’t help.

Vicki
Vicki
June 24, 2024 10:34 am

Re our electricity bill at farm:

Provider manager agrees there is a problem. They, of course, depend on the company who installs the meter (& we know who that is!) & gives them the readings. They are contacting them to examine the meter. Why are we not confidant with that?

Figures
Figures
June 24, 2024 10:38 am

Rosie

Reading through that article Vaers records all events that occurred within x days of vaccination, it doesn’t mean all those events were caused by the vaccination.

Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc.

Such a hypocrite.

If somebody is sick and they are found to have some “virus” in them then the virus is automatically assumed to be causally related even in the absence of any other evidence.

Using the same logic, if someone has been vaccinated gets sick then you have to blame the vaccine even if there is no other evidence.

Of course, in truth, they are not equivalent. We *know* when someone gets vaccinated so we have a potentially temporal relationship (which is very strong evidence) OTOH we have no idea when a “virus” first enters someone so a correlation is fairly meaningless.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 10:43 am

Awful people teaming up to get awful people out of jail while making huge amounts of money?

Nah, never happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l567uNVHdbo

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2024 10:58 am

Floaters!

Furious Parisians threaten to defecate in River Seine in Olympics protest (24 Jun)

Furious Parisians have threatened to defecate in the River Seine ahead of this summer’s Olympics.

Protesters fumed “it’s their turn to plunge into our s***” as they protested against the costs of cleaning the water.

Event organisers are in a desperate bid to make the water safe enough to swim in before the Games begin on July 26.

The Seine is set to host triathlon and open water swimming events as well as playing a part in the opening ceremony.

However, just over five weeks before the first triathlon event on July 30, protesters have threatened to defecate in the water.

They have rallied using the hashtag “I s*** in the Seine on 23 June”.

I know triathlon athletes are tough, but there’s tough and then there’s really tough.

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 24, 2024 10:58 am

m0nster bleating that the AEMO generation stats exclude rooftop solar, which he says would take the three monthly Renewballs figure from 18% to 40%. He provides no evidence for arriving at this unmetered figure.

In a former life worked for a renewable energy trading company and was given a tour of the energy distribution company including their control centre with all its big screens and real-time(ish) data on production & consumption of energy.

The main screen at mid-day showed a huge gap between supply and demand i.e. too much power with too little demand. This was 5 years ago.

Reasons: on a sunny day people are at work/school so domestic demand drops to SFA while supply peaks due to feed-in of solar power. This caused problems since the power could not be stored and it made the firm power sources (Gas, Coal etc) uneconomic and they could not be turned off for 5-6 hours every day just to match the lows in daily demand curves.

Problems: To fix this problem would require almost complete rebuild of the network to allow power to be uploaded from as well as downloaded to consumers. This would cost billions and provide no benefit to non-solar users or the distribution company. So there is a class divide at the root of green power … quelle surprise.

Outcome: What we see now the renewables ‘dream’ is a political and economic nightmare for the average consumer who can’t afford or can’t install solar panels and a battery. The green revolution is actually a class war hidden behind well-funded virtue-signalling by the elite classes.

Last edited 3 months ago by Alamak!
Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2024 10:58 am
Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2024 10:59 am

And in news just in….so called Liberal, Matt Kean Green…

Anthony Albanese has announced former NSW energy minister and Liberal MP, Matt Kean, as the new head of the Climate Change Authority.

Mr Kean announced his retirement earlier this month after 13 years in NSW parliament, ruling out a run as a federal Liberal candidate.

The Prime Minister said Mr Kean was an “outstanding appointment” to chair of the Climate Change Authority.

“Matt Kean is uniquely qualified to lead the Climate Change Authority and I am so pleased that he has accepted the government’s invitation to take up the vacancy which is there due to the resignation of Grant King,” he said.

“I worked very closely with Mr Kean when we introduced… our energy price relief plan in partnership with the NSW state government and other state governments as well.

Nobody should be surprised by this.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 11:03 am

Green Kean the new chair of The Climate Council. We always knew he was of that hue.

cohenite
June 24, 2024 11:05 am

Anthony Albanese has announced former NSW energy minister and Liberal MP, Matt Kean, as the new head of the Climate Change Authority.

Now the test for the gutless LNP. If this bald headed flog is still a member he should be booted immediately; along with turdball. Just watch, it’ll happen.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 24, 2024 11:07 am

https://www.skirsch.com/covid/Data-6-22-24.pdf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

A Covid “vaccine” presentation from Steve Kirsch.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 24, 2024 11:08 am

Albo and Bowen made another presser appearance to berate Dutton for championing nuclear – and by doing so they reinforced the impression that they are ignorant snake oil salesmen. We know that we need something to provide what wind and solar can’t. Their oft used lines about cost and time delays just don’t make sense. They went further and did a Demonrat move, accusing nuclear boosters of being “ideological”.
And as I mentioned earlier, the delays in gas exploration and extraction are down to delays/bans by pollies. The delays in nuclear implementation, ditto.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 24, 2024 11:09 am

Just coming out of a fentanyl haze. That and other ‘twilight’ drugs carefully mixed by a friendly anesthetist. So not a full ‘general’ but a dreamy sleep breathing oxygen where I vaguely recall a very charming surgeon (mine! He does have a nice side it seems) saying something soothing, last thing I recall, and then I drft back to full consciousness in Recovery. All done.

Waiting in the carpark now at Double Bay Woolies while Hairy gets some Barramundi for tonight. We were up at 5 for a 6am admission at St Vincents Private. Hairy insists on coming in just in case I’ve forgotten anything. Like money. He gives me $50 although everything is prepaid0p. Never be without cash is my motto.

So many cars on the road then. Nice nurse from Paddibgton says it is all tradies trying to get a park on jobs in crowded Eastern Suburbs streets. That figures. Plus hospital and garbage workers.

My eyes still a bit wonky. Have a good day, Cats and Kittehs.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 11:11 am

Dover, I avoided the whole “who did what” to focus on the reaction to the 2 attacks.

In both cases Russia has deliberately named the EU/US as if not fully responsible, supplying the weaponry and means to do the attacks.

I fear bear poking may be reaching the “oh my arm socket stings and that looks like my face on that tree” stage where retaliation becomes an option.

Muddy
Muddy
June 24, 2024 11:19 am

My response to Tinta’s 7:02 a.m. post (not directed at anyone personally):

The media’s coverage of the Israel-Gaza war is NOT negligence. It is INTENTIONAL. It is far past the time when we cease attributing informational distortion to the ‘fog of war’ or ‘a difference of perspective.’

It is impossible to come to the conclusion after this period of time, knowing the vast array of resources the monolithic media possesses, that the continuing promulgation of disputed facts and the omission of selected perspectives, is other than the active promotion of the goals and objects of a group of affiliated organisations (h@m@s, pij, hezbollocks, etc.) that encourage, participate in, and use for the purpose of instilling terror, the rape and murder of unarmed civilians.

It need not be proven that the media have formal contacts with (are acting on instructions from), or are receiving financial or other benefits from the above-mentioned proponents of homicide and sexual assault, including, allegedly, the mutilation of civilian corpses. This is not an allegation of ‘conspiracy,’ but an observation that a pattern has become evident wherein the media* has voluntarily (without coercion) implemented the informational goals and tactics (deception, omission) of the above-mentioned organisations. Without the effectiveness of this media propaganda distribution, the ability of h@m@s etc to achieve their objectives would be substantially reduced. The war would be perceived as an isolated, local conflict.

The reasoning behind this media behaviour is irrelevant. It is, in fact, a distraction that diverts attention from their actions (which is, of course, a well-worn tactic: ‘It is up to YOU to come up with a cogent reason why WE would do such a thing’).

I cannot emphasise enough my belief that the direction of our counter-tactics (including the language we use) needs to depart from the automatic assumption of media negligence (benefit of the doubt) to that of intent and malice.

* Hopefully all on this forum are aware there are both individual and organisational exceptions to this broad generalisation.

duncanm
duncanm
June 24, 2024 11:21 am

Kean now where he always belonged.

Praised by none other than Albo himself. All one needs to know.

PM declares him an ‘outstanding appointment’.

duncanm
duncanm
June 24, 2024 11:26 am

Greg Jerico showing a complete lack of a logical mind, yet again.
https://x.com/GrogsGamut/status/1805018659397747154

Our media is more broken than pretty much anywhere

He concludes this because Australia is at the bottom of a list of countries by % of belief in anthropogenic warming action.

.. guess who’s at the top of this list?

That’s right. China.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 24, 2024 11:27 am

Not quite a Cox Plate field of Gold Logie nominees.

Sonia Kruger

Tony Armstrong

Andy Lee

Robert Irwin

Larry Emdur

Julia Morris

Asher Keddie

If these er, luminaries are the best on offer then Australian television is dead. Surprised Paul Barry wasn’t nominated

John H.
John H.
June 24, 2024 11:36 am

Rufus T Firefly

 June 24, 2024 8:30 am

I see that the Govt of St Volodymyr the Pure is up to its usual standard.

An ATACAMS missile has hit a group of children playing at a beach in Sevastopol.

6 dead, dozens injured.

These missiles fly a pre-progammed route to their destination, so the beach was definitely its intended target.

The missiles aren’t always on target. It is pointless to use an optimal and very expensive missile, of limited supply, to attack a beach. Much more likely someone made a navigation mistake or the missile malfunctioned.

shatterzzz
June 24, 2024 11:40 am

Well, that didn’t take long .. Matt Keane didn’t leave the ‘trough” he just changed seats .. “jerbs fer the boyz” to the rescue ..
it’s alwayz about who you know not what ……. FFS
https://x.com/JoshButler

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 24, 2024 11:44 am

Roger at 8:01 am

Thanks for that, Roger. A very interesting read.

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2024 11:44 am

Journalists need to take care not to appear to be pushing the false narratives of their preferred side of politics.

Chris Mitchell strapping on the monocle and braying about false partisan narratives. Give us a spell, LOL.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 11:50 am

Cronkite earlier …

AEMO NSW electricity production at 9am:

Coal 81%

Gas 8%

Solar 9%

Wind 1%

Thinking about this again this morning.
Even though Renewballs contributions are abysmally low, even that doesn’t tell the full story of reliability.
The numbers are artificially high because Renewballs get priority to supply the grid when they occasionally work. The real measure over time is where the low water mark of generation for any period longer than an hour or two. If, for example, Renewballs runs at 5% for 4-5 hours, without gas and coal that will mean battery exhaustion and blackouts. Currently the only blackouts we have are derived from transmission and distribution failures with zero generation downtime. In fact, the redundancy in distribution systems in inner city areas is such that they experience 100% uptime.
Wait until we get a series of cold, calm winter nights and the meagre hydro resources have been chewed up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 11:52 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
 June 24, 2024 11:09 am

Just coming out of a fentanyl haze.

Really?
Rave parties?
At your age?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 11:53 am

Fentanyl is sooo 2022.
Ketamine is all the rage now.

John H.
John H.
June 24, 2024 12:26 pm

dover0beach

 June 24, 2024 12:20 pm

The missiles aren’t always on target. It is pointless to use an optimal and very expensive missile, of limited supply, to attack a beach. Much more likely someone made a navigation mistake or the missile malfunctioned.

It was using cluster munitions. If you wanted to hit a soft target out in the open that is what you’d use.

Malfunction is the most probable explanation.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2024 12:28 pm

When I had ketamine there were no adverse side effects. Time almost stood still and had I not been able to see the clock would have thought it five minutes not the hour and a half on the clock. Surgery doesn’t usually bother me with the pain levels but this time it did. No hallucinations at all.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2024 12:30 pm

On the lighter side of things…

Reading Saul David’s biography of of Lord Cardigan, who led the Charge of the Light Brigade.

One of Cardigans captains requested a short leave, which Cardigan refused, citing an inspection as the reason.Despite his chief’s growing anger, the captain pressed his request, saying “The fact is, Sir, I must have leave. I have arranged to elope with Mrs——.”

Cardigan’s ire instantly dissipated. “My dear fellow, why didn’t you say so before? Of course you may have your leave. A MOST hussar-like action.” (Page 182.)

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 24, 2024 12:33 pm

Yesterday’s news:

South Australia Police have arrested two teenage boys after a violent altercation at an Adelaide shopping centre forced shoppers into lockdown and led to an evacuation.

Whether this lockdown was an overreaction rather depends on how much info the first responders had about the fight. Surely the context being a fight between two small groups would imply that only members of that group would be targeted? This is not some us-against-society scenario. i.e. the general public were probably not at risk.
Still, luxury of hindsight too.

John H.
John H.
June 24, 2024 12:34 pm

This reminds me of a comment by a US fighter pilot: we call them missiles, not hittiles. I wonder how Turkey and India are feeling about their recent s400 acquisitions.

S-400 Embarrasses Itself — Six Failed Interceptions Before ATACMS Strike! (youtube.com)

Kneel
Kneel
June 24, 2024 12:46 pm

Rosie:“Were the events higher than the background rate?
Don’t know, and Gateway Pundit doesn’t care.
And just because something gets published in ooh aah Lancet doesn’t make it true.
At least that’s what many here have been saying for years.”

Couple of interesting factoids:

1) there are more VAERS reports re: covid vaxes than all other vaxes combined

2) such reports “trip” over 700 “safety signals” – almost every other vax trips none.

Doesn’t “prove” anything, I know – but it is certainly suggestive of a need to investigate more closely, and even that appears to not be happening when it should have.

We will never have proof of what the exact risks and benefits are for any vax, but such monitoring needs to be free of political interference. Several potentially highly useful vaxes (eg H5N1 vax) were aborted for just a fraction of the VAERS events and injuries that C19 vaxes cause – even the highly suppressed official numbers of C19 vax injuries.

Zippster
Zippster
June 24, 2024 12:59 pm
Alamak!
Alamak!
June 24, 2024 1:22 pm

dover> Please review the spam-ish post I made this AM and do the needful. thanks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2024 1:27 pm

North West Telegraph

The Pier Hotel: Port Hedland’s ‘toughest pub’ to close its doors by the end of the month
Katya MinnsNorth West Telegraph
Mon, 24 June 2024 11:21AM

A Pilbara pub, once dubbed “the world’s toughest pub” and rumoured to hold a record for the most stabbings in one night, will cease trading by the end of the month.
The Pier Hotel in Port Hedland announced in a post to social media on Thursday night that they would be closing their doors once stock runs out.
“Well, the time has come for me to make the hardest post I’ve ever had to make . . . soon we will be closing our doors for the final time,” the post said.
“As many of you know, we are family-owned and operated. We’ve put our heart and soul into running The Pier Hotel for almost 20 years now, and in doing so we have had to put our private lives on the back-burner.

90 beer glasses broken per shift, and a record of 86 stabbings in one night..

duncanm
duncanm
June 24, 2024 1:39 pm

What are the ALP pre-paying for with the GG’s 43% pay bump (to $700k! FFS) ?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 24, 2024 1:43 pm

90 beer glasses broken per shift, and a record of 86 stabbings in one night.

Bloody hell! I’ve frequented some rough joints in different states for a sip in my time.

Nothing like that. Family run pubs are good though.

shatterzzz
June 24, 2024 1:44 pm

Gotta luv Woolies .. FFS! ..
?Read late last week that because of wet weather/flooding in South America there is gonna be a shortage of oranges, usually used in production of juice concentate, down at Woolies this morning and .. lo & behold .. the brand, I normally, buy $1.10 a 500ml carton, last week, now $1.50 ………

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 1:49 pm

Sancho Panzer
 June 24, 2024 11:53 am

Fentanyl is sooo 2022.

Ketamine is all the rage now.

Alamak!
 June 24, 2024 12:08 pm

 Reply to  Sancho Panzer

yer time machine is stuck at 2002. not a bad place to be but not where you think you are …

Probably the hallucinogenic effects of too much Special K.

John H.
John H.
June 24, 2024 2:00 pm

dover0beach

 June 24, 2024 1:47 pm

 Reply to  John H.

Doubt it. Apparently, five ATACMS were involved. Four destroyed over the sea, however, the fifth destroyed only after it deployed its submunitions.

We don’t know what the other missiles were targeting. If they were programmed to attack the same target the same error could apply to all the missiles. Five missiles with cluster munitions to attack a beach!? Why attack a beach and provoke outrage by those providing the missiles?

bons
bons
June 24, 2024 2:04 pm

Keane joins Bishop as my most despised morality free opportunist creeps.

Hopefully Dutton will experience a visceral thrill sacking the r’sole after the next election.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 2:06 pm

Well stick a fork in the boxheads, they are rissoled…

https://www.thepublica.com/germany-woman-convicted-of-offending-migrant-gang-rapists-receives-longer-prison-sentence-than-the-rapists/

Angered by the news of the case, a 20-year-old woman from Hamburg messaged the number through WhatsApp. The unnamed woman called him a “dishonorable rapist pig” and a “disgusting miscarriage.” She added: “Aren’t you ashamed when you look in the mirror?”
The targeted rapist then reported the woman to police, and she was charged with sending him insulting messages.
The woman has now been convicted and sentenced to a weekend in prison for her remarks — meaning that she will have spent more time in jail than 8 of the 9 rapists. In court

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2024 2:09 pm

Labor proposes $214,000 pay rise for MostynRhiannon Down

Incoming Governor-General Sam Mostyn will receive a salary of $709,000 a year when she steps into the role, under a 43 per cent pay rise being proposed by the Albanese government.
Legislation introduced today will increase the current salary from $495,000 if passed by parliament, in a major financial boost for Anthony Albanese’s pick to replace sitting Governor-General David Hurley.
Ms Mostyn, who worked for the Labor government in the 1990s, begins her term as the 28th governor-general next Monday after her appointment was announced in April.
The surprise appointment of the business leader came after a stint heading the government’s Women’s Economic Advisory Taskforce, which urged Labor to add superannuation to paid parental leave.

My uncharitable mind suggests that this is the price of not “doing a Kerr?”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 2:21 pm

GreyRanga
 June 24, 2024 12:28 pm

When I had ketamine there were no adverse side effects.

Bwah ha ha ha.
I had a decent dose after a slice and dice earlier this year and had read about the possible hallucinogenic side effects. About day 3 post op I got moved to cardiac ICU (I haven’t got cardiac issues, but some dimwit wrote “AF” on my chart so that’s where I went). Late that night a new admission turned up. Old bloke telling his very strange and colourful life story in a rambling fashion. I couldn’t see him because of the privacy curtain. I suddenly thought, “F-ck! If he’s not there in the morning I’ve imagined all this”.
He was.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 24, 2024 2:30 pm

According to Sky News banner Saudi Arabia reports that 1301 pilgrims have died at the Hajj pilgrimage.

Sad.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2024 2:34 pm

Labor proposes $214,000 pay rise for Mostyn

Lefties love giving each other pay rises and prizes.

Robert Irwin nominated for Gold Logie award amid public feud with Pauline Hanson (sky News, 24 Jun)

No doubt now that he’s one of theirs. Ok I could be wrong, in which case he will gracefully decline the nomination…

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2024 2:39 pm

I think Slime Green Kean’s appointment should be referred to both ICAC and NACC.

It stinks.

Rosie
Rosie
June 24, 2024 2:48 pm

“there are more VAERS reports re: covid vaxes than all other vaxes combined”
Of course there are.
There were close to a billion doses of covid vaccines administered in the US and people were far more aware they could report adverse reactions to Vaers.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinations

Rosie
Rosie
June 24, 2024 2:49 pm

Here’s another interesting little statistic that might support the vaers awareness hypothesis.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2816958

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 24, 2024 2:56 pm

Albo goes into the winter killing season still enjoying what gave him the PM’s job in the first place – there is no one else.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2024 3:02 pm

Being an autistic numbers person, I’m watching the Torries crash and burn with the help of the Financial Times poll tracker and General Election seat prediction tool.

Obviously there is a margin of error in all this black magic, however there are a few insights that are now pretty much baked in:

Obviously Labour is heading for a supermajority. Need 350, likely going to pick up 450+.

Reform seems to be picking up voting intention from both Conservatives and Labour. The conservative vote is tanking, but the Labour vote seems to be in decline too – Brit punters just don’t really like what they are being offered.

The role of Reform in the next parliament is going to be decided over the next two weeks. If it continues with its current 16% to the Tories’ 21%, Reform will pick up one or two seats and the Tories 89.

If the established voting intention trend continues, and by polling day Reform and the Tories both attract ~20%, the Tory representation falls to 45 and Reform gets about 15.

If however Reform gets a bit of wind in its sails and Team Rishi continues to flounder, (say to 22%:18%, which is within trend polling margins), Reform quickly becomes the dominant ‘non-Labour’ grouping in parliament – and the Torries pretty much vanish.

Very sensitive.

It really is a battle for survival: watch the shite fly over the next fortnight.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 24, 2024 3:03 pm

Anal and co continue to give the electorate the middle finger. Just like their pals in the US. The Mostyn would never do a Kerr on Anal. They’re nation wrecking comrads.

chrisl
chrisl
June 24, 2024 3:04 pm

Take me to the hotel
Baggage gone Oh well….

Took the ferry from Hamilton Island to Airlie Beach and were called to say we had taken somebody else’s luggage fro the hotel foyer.
Sure enough , same colour , same size, just not ours.
Now, how to sort it out ?…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2024 3:08 pm

DR MAX PEMBERTON: Why working from home is causing an explosion in problem drinking
Daily Mail. Sliante!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 24, 2024 3:08 pm

I’ve never had a flu jab…Ever!

JC
JC
June 24, 2024 3:13 pm

Cassie of Sydney

June 24, 2024 2:39 pm

I think Slime Green Kean’s appointment should be referred to both ICAC and NACC.

It stinks.

What do you think he’s done wrong?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 3:17 pm

H B Bear
 June 24, 2024 2:28 pm

 Reply to  Sancho Panzer

God knows what I was given but I saw rats running around the ceiling …

If you were in Victoria you probably weren’t hallucinating.

… and thought the nurses were trying to kill me.

If you were in rural Queensland you probably weren’t hallucinating.

H B Bear
 June 24, 2024 2:43 pm

 Reply to  Vicki

Probably picked up an hours worth of anecdotes over 9 months in the hospital system.

Emergency Departments on Saturday nights and Magistrates Court on Monday morning. If you are an aspiring writer of black comedy, these are rich sources of material.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 3:21 pm

The conservative vote is tanking, but the Labour vote seems to be in decline too…

35% in a poll I saw.

Mind you, Elbow would kill for those numbers.

JC
JC
June 24, 2024 3:25 pm

Roger.

It’s first past the line there so the overall vote isn’t important as long as you’re ahead of the others. I’m pretty sure it’s first past the post.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2024 3:28 pm

Dr F or some other little slide rule person …
I used to be able to find the current levels of gas reservoirs (notably Iona underground storage run by LochArd Energy).
I can’t seem to find it online anymore.
Any guidance?

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2024 3:30 pm

It’s first past the line there so the overall vote isn’t important as long as you’re ahead of the others. I’m pretty sure it’s first past the post.

The UK electoral system is first past the post. It makes it very hard for minor parties.

Preferential/proportional/first past the post, they all have pluses and minuses. No system is perfect.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 3:32 pm

Roger.

It’s first past the line there so the overall vote isn’t important as long as you’re ahead of the others. I’m pretty sure it’s first past the post.

Well…you learn something every day.

😀

But seriously…polling is an indicator of mass support (obviously).

Those figures indicate Britons are quite disenchanted with their current crop of politicians. Worthwhile pondering what that means for the next election after Starmer & Co. stuff things up even more than the Tories.

While Farage is a great disruptor, I don’t think he’s capable of governing.

Where to then?

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Zippster
Zippster
June 24, 2024 3:33 pm
Arky
June 24, 2024 3:33 pm

It’s 1983. Russians shoot down a Korean airlines flight, killing 269 people.
Propagandists use it to paint the Russkies as evil, inhuman monsters.

It’s 1988. The US Navy shoots down Iran flight 655, killing 290.
Propagandists use it to paint the USA as evil, inhuman monsters.

A young Arky bought all the propaganda both times.
But it isn’t the 1980s anymore.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 24, 2024 3:52 pm

It would be an interesting exercise to see what first past the post would mean in Australia. Of course, such an exercise doesn’t really have any validity as political parties would immediately change electoral strategies. There would appear to be little doubt the Lieborals are disadvantaged by the scattering of preferences whereas many Liars owe their entire careers to Green preferences.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2024 4:01 pm

It would be an interesting exercise to see what first past the post would mean in Australia.

The Libs almost always have a higher primary vote than Labor, therefore Labor would die in a ditch of rampant monkeypox rather than to allow FPP here.

shatterzzz
June 24, 2024 4:02 pm

Labor proposes $214,000 pay rise for Mostyn

Maybe Luigi is gazing into the crystal ball and thinking of his life after politics pension booster ……..!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 4:06 pm

shatterzzz

Its a 2fer for labor.

They get to reward a maaaate and bring odium to the position at the same time.

?

John H.
John H.
June 24, 2024 4:07 pm

over0beach

 June 24, 2024 3:09 pm

We don’t know what the other missiles were targeting. If they were programmed to attack the same target the same error could apply to all the missiles. Five missiles with cluster munitions to attack a beach!? Why attack a beach and provoke outrage by those providing the missiles?

I gave a reason above in an answer to mole. The point of attacks like this are that they are deliberately designed to provoke a response while also having the cover of plausible deniability at least as far as the public is concerned.

Tendentious.

A 5 missile attack is for defended targets like depots or airfields where cluster munitions can do a lot of damage.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 24, 2024 4:08 pm

I understand that local government elections are first-past-the-post.
And they’re slightly less cesspitty than state or federal… plus they don’t seem to constantly campaign upon, and meddle with, issues beyond their constitutional remit.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 24, 2024 4:14 pm

Here’s another interesting little statistic that might support the vaers awareness hypothesis.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2816958

What a garbage article. The only thing to be deduced from it is that Republican voters are smarter than Democrat voters.
Besides who knows what the real vote was in 2020, anywhere.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 24, 2024 4:19 pm

It is amusing in a horrific way to watch Labor, founded as the party of the rural and urban working class, actively destroying agriculture with a mix of Green Tape and solar and wind generators and long transmission lines, while destroying urban industry by reducing the availability and increasing the cost of electrical power.

I wonder if the geniuses leading the way realise that, forget about industry, modern hospitals are completely dependent on reliable, continuous electricity. It might dawn on them when lying on an operating table at midnight and the lights go out.

Tough luck then, if the latest ship load of diesel has been held up.

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Chris
Chris
June 24, 2024 4:19 pm

Friend Ernie just emailed that he is meeting an ABC crew to walk them through the site of the WW2 Marrinup PoW camp, located I think back of the railway museum area at Pinjarra.
Ernie Polis is the author of a book on PoW camps in Western Australia. That particular camp had Nazis, not considered suitable for work release to farms like the Italians, and he told me that the Germans put a formal request for rifles to the Australian Camp Commander.
They wished to hold a firing squad for one of their prisoners who had said that he believed Germany would lose the war.
The authorities declined the request and transferred the prisoner to Victoria.

My home town had Italians. My Dad shocked me when I was about 15 by conversing with a young migrant boy in Italian; Dad learned it as a teenager from PoWs on the farm.

Zippster
Zippster
June 24, 2024 4:23 pm

Orthodox Priest and several police killed in shooting rampage in Russia

our E-karen will be on top of this in 5…4…3…

Crossie
Crossie
June 24, 2024 4:28 pm

Obviously Labour is heading for a supermajority. Need 350, likely going to pick up 450+. 

Reform seems to be picking up voting intention from both Conservatives and Labour. The conservative vote is tanking, but the Labour vote seems to be in decline too – Brit punters just don’t really like what they are being offered.

If Reform are picking up votes from Labour as well then perhaps Labour will not have a supermajority after all. It would be great to prevent them from grabbing and exercising absolute power. Then again, maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part.

MatrixTransform
June 24, 2024 4:44 pm

The anti-free-market bit is Dutton’s 100% government-owned imaginary white elephants

No mUnty …

Liable entities have a legal obligation to buy LGCs and surrender them to the Clean Energy Regulator on an annual basis

I suspect you dont really know what an LGC is …. If you’d like to actually get a clue mUnty ..read this … htttps://cer.gov.au/schemes/renewable-energy-target/large-scale-renewable-energy-target/large-scale-generation-2

now consider this you numb-skull

Nuclear power is a CO2-free energy source at point of generationOver the whole fuel cycle, nuclear power emits only 2–6 grams of carbon (or up to 20 grams of CO2) per kilowatt-hour of electricity producedThis is two orders of magnitude less than coal, oil and natural gas, and is comparable to emissions from wind and solar power.Nuclear power will completely collapse the wholesale price of energy AND displace both wind and solar with their idiotic requirement that we must over-build to make them useful

You climate grifters will be out of business

Ring up Turnbull Energy and have a cry to Malcolm

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JC
JC
June 24, 2024 4:57 pm

I suspect Dutton has screwed up future investments in renew balls and possibly totally fcked the Liars plan. It would be hard to imagine anyone making any future large-scale investments in the sector with this albatross hanging over everything.

But here’s the rub. If renewballs are the cheapest form of electricity, then investors will ignore Dutton and continue on. This is where the rubber meets the road, I think.
 
Conversely, if it’s true that renew balls are the cheapest, then the Liars and investors don’t have anything to worry about, because price will surely win out.
This is going to be hilarious to watch.

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Muddy
Muddy
June 24, 2024 5:02 pm

I’d like to publicly express my gratitude to fellow Cat Peter G. who conducted research for me at the Australian War Memorial this afternoon, despite having his share of family and other commitments. The project turns out to be more ambitious – in terms of time required – than either of us thought, but Peter has steadfastly refused my incessant badgering (hard to believe I can be irritating, huh?) about paying his expenses. If this trajectory continues, I may have to revise my desire that all of humanity be wiped out, leaving only I and Kaley Cuoco.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 5:04 pm

This is going to be hilarious to watch.

Until government ups the subsidies on renewables to keep them viable.

JC
JC
June 24, 2024 5:05 pm

The anti-free-market bit is Dutton’s 100% government-owned imaginary white elephants

Anti-free market is what the liars are doing, fatboy. They continue with the ban on nuclear and subsidize renew balls. That’s as anti-market as you can get, you fat lesbian.

There’s no choice in the government’s financing of nuclear reactors because of the squealing and lies from the left that have bobbled nuclear for the past 50 years. No investor would dare build a nuclear plant with private capital because of the political risk associated with it in Australia.

I’d expect the investment would eventually be privatized, once the squealing died down, which would be about a decade later.

Remain calm and patient, Fatboy. We’ll eventually get there.
 

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Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 5:09 pm

Remain calm and patient, Fatboy. We’ll eventually get there.

That’s at least the second time someone’s tried to explain it to him.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 5:22 pm

Anyone every hear of this Argie chap??

Seems to eb an awful person as hes not calling for higher taxes and more government employees..

https://x.com/i/status/1804347148378444051

also in honey badger sideburns news.
https://apnews.com/article/argentina-inflation-milei-single-digits-3cf0adca2cdf911fb04a06c3e9c6880d

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2024 5:23 pm

This is going to be hilarious to watch.

Until government ups the subsidies on renewables to keep them viable.

Unfortunately this looks like the only tool left in the box.

It comes with safety instructions: With each application, blame Dutton for distorting the market.

JC
JC
June 24, 2024 5:27 pm

thefrollickingmole

June 24, 2024 5:22 pm

Anyone every hear of this Argie chap??

This anon Argie needs to dollarize like yesterday. I don’t understand what the dude is waiting for,

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2024 5:29 pm

I suspect Dutton has screwed up future investments in renew balls and possibly totally fcked the Liars plan

Every call from the carpetbaggers has been for more, to paraphase Gillard, Certandeee! in the market.

Thats the Certandeee! existing power stations will be made unviable, and Certandeee! that their profits will be guaranteed with a nice fat ROI to get cheap funding and expand as quickly as possible.

As you say, Dutton will have a lot of financial bums twitching as funding suddenly calculates the probability of a Lib win, and the estimated timetine and power costs of Nukes.

Never mid the political; bleating, if in 3 months you hear of a rash of renew-balls projects becoming unviable, it means the serious money people have had their accounting gnomes work out Nuke actually is viable.

JC
JC
June 24, 2024 5:30 pm

Until government ups the subsidies on renewables to keep them viable.

Unfortunately this looks like the only tool left in the box.

All Dutton needs to say then is that he will reverse the subsidies once in government. And also say that any increase in subsidies is proof the government is lying about how cheap renewballs are, otherwise there would be no reason for any increase.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 24, 2024 5:32 pm

Colesworths on notice
[ https://www.skynews.com.au/business/markets/government-accepts-all-recommendations-from-independent-supermarket-review-which-will-enforce-fines-of-up-to-10-million/news-story/e8d8efa76d6ca9bf49ce857661d9b04a ]

Treasurer Jim Chalmers told Today on Monday morning the new mandatory code was all about giving farmers and their families a “fair go” and aimed to help suppliers and struggling consumers.

“It’s about ensuring that the big supermarket chains do the right thing by their supplier and also by their customers,” Mr Chalmers said.

“It’s all about making sure that if we have supply chains which are fairer and supermarkets which are more competitive, there will be benefits for people at the checkout.”

What if the fairer price is higher? Would Colesworths be prevented from profiting by passing on the price rise to the customers?

Is there any chance the stated goal would actually be achieved by the new code?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2024 5:34 pm

Earlier, and from the nested comments (presumably because he didn’t want anyone to see them), Ronnie RAAF stings in a retort with all the grace of a Caribou in a crosswind:

Where were you deployed again, I keep forgetting?

Now, you have served, ….., right?

I have disclosed this publicly, several times, including to you. The answer to that question is yes. In a real service, and in a real corps to boot.

Note the operative word – boot.

A man of your obvious courage wouldn’t be a, ……., shirtlifting poltroon who has never been deployed, surely?

Again, previously disclosed. Deployed, but not in war or warlike zones.

‘Deployed’, to me at least, means going outside the wire and hunting down enemy regardless of season, weather or terrain. Being at an airbase, in an acknowledged safe zone, guarded by shit tons of troops, counting propellers and eating hot food doesn’t cut it.

POGO at a minimum?

The opposite, actually. Thanks for asking. The entire RAAF could be described as that term, but hey – you go where you want.

I note you didn’t reply to the actual situation posed either.

That’s because I am not an expert on geopolitics, and neither are you.

Did you manage to find someone else’s uniform to wear on Anzac Day?

Careful, big fella. As a certain barrel-stuffer disguised as a Last Holdout Quenthlander found out only a couple of years ago, I am not going to be told how to commemorate ANZAC Day. ANZAC is all capitals, by the way. I thought someone with your (apparent) credentials would know that.

You have made my day.

Likewise. I will now recite the RAAF motto – ‘If you’re going to be one, be a big light blue one!’

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 5:37 pm

All Dutton needs to say then is that he will reverse the subsidies once in government.

And then get the existing enabling legislation repealed and his own passed…by both houses.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2024 5:42 pm

I think Coopers has slightly altered the recipe for Sparkling Ale.

It has a more coppery hue than I remember and a slightly sweeter profile to balance the Pride of Ringwood hops. More in the English style.

A touch of crystal malt would be my first guess.

Carry on…

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