Open Thread – Mon 20 Sept 2021


Music in the Tuileries, Édouard Manet, 1862

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Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 10:24 pm

Lies.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/is-it-true/is-it-true-were-covid-19-vaccines-rushed-through-approvals-or-given-emergency-use-authorisations-in-australia

Were COVID-19 vaccines rushed through approvals or given emergency use authorisations in Australia?

Australia has made a full and thorough assessment of the Pfizer (Comirnaty) and AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) vaccines.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) provisionally approved these vaccines after a complete assessment of all the available data. This is the same process as any vaccine approved in this country. The TGA will only register and approve a COVID-19 vaccine if it is safe and effective.

No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted. The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.

Lying by use assumptive language and arguing over minutiae.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 22, 2021 10:24 pm

JC, you should see the property that Google/Alphabet & their ecosystem owns.
All of it on top of key junctures.
They are the kings of choke points.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 10:25 pm

Gao: Nuclear subs deal means Australia will lose ‘privilege of not being targeted’ | China Tonight

If we get W-88s, China is blessed with good fortune, they become the first nuclear target of Australia.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2021 10:27 pm

Fortuitous, because now I don’t have to scroll back:

But I do know with 100% certainty that you are a beardless Faulty.

With the same tendency to spectacularly burst into flames when your conceits are probed, or (heavens forbid) laughed at.

Ho ho ho.

For certain, that poor man the ‘counter-terrorism squad’ detained would be in the tunnels by now. Making meatlover supremes. Thick crust.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 22, 2021 10:27 pm

Dot, you love W-88’s as much as you love thorium.
Would you like to know more ?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2021 10:28 pm

Which I forewarned all you people about, many years ago.

And was laughed at. Laughed at. Snickered, even.

I had to go horse riding for hours to dispel the hysteria.

Muddy
Muddy
September 22, 2021 10:28 pm

Thanks for that Dot. Interesting. Can Australian Federal or State law override it?

cohenite
September 22, 2021 10:29 pm

Zipstersays:
September 22, 2021 at 10:22 pm
Gao: Nuclear subs deal means Australia will lose ‘privilege of not being targeted’ | China Tonight

its 1939 all over again

Stan grant should have a periscope stuck up his sun-tanned arse. The fucking abc giving air-time to some chunk telling us we’re fucked because we haven’t got our noses stuck far enough up the chunk arse.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 10:30 pm

It’s remarkable.

The TGA are claiming all vaccines are only ever given provisional approval and the EUAs were only ever made because of the (perceived) threat of COVID, not because they were not evaluated ((which normally taxes another 18-36 months).

The idea that provisional approval in Australia means that all experimentation is complete is highly solipsistic and simply false.

MatrixTransform
September 22, 2021 10:32 pm

From Zippy’s link…

It is not the first time Senator Hanson has tried to co-opt the Black Lives Matter movement, which sprung up in response to police brutality and racially motivated violence.

these people are fucking insane

Digger
Digger
September 22, 2021 10:33 pm

Lying by use assumptive language and arguing over minutiae.

Provisional: (Dictionary) ‘arranged or existing for the present, possibly to be changed later.’

Provisional literally means exactly what the Yanks call ‘Emergency Use Authority’… The attempted con and deflection are so bloody obvious…

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 10:33 pm

Dot, you love W-88’s as much as you love thorium.
Would you like to know more ?

Rebuilding vafter a var vill require…prodigious breeding.

or…

How I Learnt To Stop Worrying and Love Herman Kahn

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2021 10:34 pm

“Sliante” to all on the Cat, and the toast is “Broken Hill Proprietary” and the dividend.

Indolent
Indolent
September 22, 2021 10:35 pm

In my opinion, the vaccine mandates are illegal.

Any details on that court case that was settled in favour of the applicant yesterday? I bet they insisted on a confidentiality clause.

MatrixTransform
September 22, 2021 10:36 pm

Cornflake Girl, huh?

goes with the Skipping Girl Shiraz

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 10:38 pm

It is Federal Law.

It overrides State law.

Indolent
Indolent
September 22, 2021 10:40 pm

No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted. The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.

Didn’t I read that the TGA did NOT do any independent testing but relied solely on the U.S. data? The vaccine approval in the U.S. was definitely on an emergency basis.

In any case, what has happened to “informed consent” which forms part of our rules, based on international standards?

Muddy
Muddy
September 22, 2021 10:41 pm

MatrixTransform says:
Cornflake Girl, huh?

goes with the Skipping Girl Shiraz

… and my Dead Man’s Fingers Lime Rum.
Hmmm, masculinity’s slipping. Time for bed.

Remember everyone: We need you, so stick around.

rickw
rickw
September 22, 2021 10:41 pm

Another random Australian that’s 10 times more decent and ten times more sensible than any Australian politician:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6EUr_37Os

Muddy
Muddy
September 22, 2021 10:43 pm

Thanks, Dot.
My personal concern is a bureaucratic directive though, which is a law unto itself.

That’s for mulling over tomorrow.

rickw
rickw
September 22, 2021 10:44 pm

Let’s not forget this piece of shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33GdIBrdmc0

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
September 22, 2021 10:45 pm

So the TGA is effectively saying all “ normal” vax procedures are subjected to about 2-3 years unnecessary holdups and red tape?

Because most take years ( as in more than one) to get approvals.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 22, 2021 10:46 pm

Don’t do what Mista Rexy Angy did and you won’t be a hysterical girl.

Lolwut, Beardless Faulty?

You come out with better bullshit than Bird.

And he’s got the excuse of being batshit crazy…

Bruce in WA
September 22, 2021 10:48 pm

Re the tweet about the feller with the massive welt in the middle of his back courtesy of NSW plod. Has anyone read the comments beneath the post?

Here is just a few (unedited):

Trytoseesense
@Trytoseesense

Well he’s got two weeks off to recover, poor baby.

Kate atkinson
@Kateack08

Oh well. He could have stayed home.

@d_kittycatdani1

@7NewsMelbourne
Oh well

Dave
@davey0511

Pretty sure that’s just the biggest pimple ever.

9h
Replying to
@paul_dowsley
and
@7NewsMelbourne
Sorry, don’t care. If he was not there it would not have happened

CKM
@CKM1959

That’s the best! Face with tears of joy

Nate
@natjohn_

Why give this guy a platform? People get shot by their “own” police when they are a threat to public safety, and that’s what Micheal is.

Pauline McLean
@PaulineMcLean33

I support Paul in reporting. He’s giving information to the public not enabling. People might be happy to see that the police are taking action. A journalists job is to report & that’s all Paul has done.

Wendy Jobson
@JobsonWendy

Replying to
@paul_dowsley
and
@7NewsMelbourne
Put a mask on

Melanie
@MelanieMelb123

Replying to
@paul_dowsley
He shouldn’t have been there. Serves him right.

Kai
@kaizi2000

Replying to
@paul_dowsley
No he did he was warned and he still broke the law

Victorian Bloke
@AussieSheepDog

They are disgusted in you too Michael…

@MarjorieGarante

Replying to
@paul_dowsley
We are disgusted in you too Michael

Getting the picture??

I spoke to at least half a dozen family and friends about the protests today.

Not ONE skerrick of support: all were along the line of “bloody idiots … the government is only trying to help … get the jab and get on with your life …”

I’ve had to forbid my family from talking to me about it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 22, 2021 10:49 pm

Fairshake @ 8:12pm
What I have witnessed on the live feeds will never be seen by my family friends and colleagues. They will go with our msm and elites interpretation and narratives.

I would like to thank everyone on this blog for their contributions. It reminds me I have not lost my mind. We are still in this fight. It ain’t done yet

My position exactly.

rickw
rickw
September 22, 2021 10:50 pm

The best explanation of The Balkans that you will ever see!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp9hwjdPKvc

twostix
twostix
September 22, 2021 10:51 pm

The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) provisionally approved these vaccines after a complete assessment of all the available data.

“available data” is the confidence game there.

FOI request showed Pfizer didn’t even deem pipsqueak Australia worthy of getting the patient data. They operated off Pfizer’s summary data and analysis, aka the marketing material.

Exactly the same as they did with Tamiflu in 2009.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 22, 2021 10:51 pm

rickw says:
September 22, 2021 at 10:21 pm
There are 100,000+ gun owners in Victoria, probably owning an average of three guns each. PORTS 700 AR-15’s are looking quite thin.

Every one of those 100,000+ gun owners is licensed and every gun is registered.
If the people actually need them to defend themselves from the VikStasi etc, just how long do you think you’d be able to keep them?

Possibly 1 week to hand them in, then a sufficient number of those PORTS 700 AR-15s would surround your house and take them. Once a few families had been cleaned out, the rest would fall into line very quickly.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 22, 2021 10:51 pm

Furthermore, if srr refuses to put her Junta away, I will be forced to hit it with the flat of a spade.

(And yes, I just felt every Tom-Cat on this blog flinch).

Decency demands it…

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
September 22, 2021 10:52 pm

As long as it’s not “ red wine on the cornflake girl” for breakfast.

And I like this one, Tori on “ when all the boys can’t be men”…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f0O2-xV5XEA

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 22, 2021 10:52 pm

The best explanation of The Balkans that you will ever see!

Slavs gonna Slav, man… 😉

rickw
rickw
September 22, 2021 10:53 pm

Not ONE skerrick of support: all were along the line of “bloody idiots … the government is only trying to help … get the jab and get on with your life …”

There’s to many bloody mongs in Australia for it to survive.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2021 10:56 pm

Stan grant should have a periscope stuck up his sun-tanned arse.

Stan Grant preaches the tired old bullshit about poisoned waterholes, and Aborigines nor being counted in the census, or being citizens of Australia…………

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
September 22, 2021 10:57 pm

Rickw

At last I truely see

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2021 11:00 pm

The best explanation of The Balkans that you will ever see!

Bloody hell. That was intense.

Tito’s laser eyes got the job done, yet again.

srr
srr
September 22, 2021 11:07 pm

Police Lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBBSew8EyIQ
Sep 22, 2021
Discernable
Reviewing Melbourne protests and the false police narrative with one of my guests.

This was filmed on Mon 20th September before the CFMEU protests which have only produced more divisive rhetoric from the likes of John Setka, Bill Shorten, Victoria Police and dinosaur legacy media channels.

This is a segment from a longform interview with Ps Jesse Newman: https://youtu.be/qmp9zPc8mi0

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 11:07 pm

See the ginned up mob against the Orthodox Priest in the NT?

Apparently mRNA vaccines aren’t experimental biological agents.

Okay, what are they, Michael Gunner, you freaking genius?

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 11:09 pm

Think I heard the tail end of Dan Andrews calling some of the biggest protests in Australian history, non protests, non-protwsted by “rIgHt WiNg ExTrEmIsTs!!!1”

What a mong.

MatrixTransform
September 22, 2021 11:10 pm

Okay, what are they, Michael Gunner, you freaking genius?

duh … Freedom Jabs

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 22, 2021 11:19 pm

There’s to many bloody mongs in Australia for it to survive.

‘Twas ever thus. In the old days they discovered at school that they were stupid and learnt to shut up. Now, thanks to social media, they’ve discovered that they have the numbers, and there’s no holding them.

rickw
rickw
September 22, 2021 11:23 pm

The CCP’s big population problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWgpt3uYzkE

srr
srr
September 22, 2021 11:27 pm

Received 81 Million Votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7sMKap9r5Y

Aug 29, 2021
Tony Heller
The most popular president in history just turned the Talban into one of the best equipped fighting forces in the world.

rickw
rickw
September 22, 2021 11:36 pm

Possibly 1 week to hand them in, then a sufficient number of those PORTS 700 AR-15s would surround your house and take them. Once a few families had been cleaned out, the rest would fall into line very quickly.

Do you think anyone’s giving up their guns at this point? The public safety angle is completely dead.

“Give up your guns so it’s easier for us to fuck you up!” Isn’t going to fly.

rickw
rickw
September 22, 2021 11:38 pm

Salty Cracker, Gates train wreck interview on Epstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVOFmuwAdG4

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 22, 2021 11:40 pm

Fat Tony at 10.51pm above has nailed it.

Every single licensed firearm in Australia can be declared illegal with a stroke of the government pen with huge penalties for not handing them in and warrantless search and seizure. They will kick your door down, handcuff you and trash your house to steal your property because “public safety”.

A training exercise for this scenario was recently held in WA when the Chief Plod declared legal gelblaster guns to now be illegal, subject to seizure and declared massive fines and prison time for anyone not handing their toy gun in to the police. None of this crap went within bull’s roar of the Parliament, just a new “regulation” by unelected nobodies.

Anybody who thinks the same thing won’t happen with your currently legal licensed guns when the the chips are down is living in a fool’s paradise.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2021 11:51 pm

Awwwwww shit!

Via Tim Pool

Main stream media confirms Hunter Biden laptop story is TRUE.

https://youtu.be/BQUHQ8ikZvs

rickw
rickw
September 23, 2021 12:00 am

Anybody who thinks the same thing won’t happen with your currently legal licensed guns when the the chips are down is living in a fool’s paradise.

It will happen, but they would be forcing an obvious now or never moment on the population. No one I’ve talked to in a Gun shop over the last 12 months seemed to think it was about duck shooting.

rickw
rickw
September 23, 2021 12:11 am

Great commentary of today’s events by this young bloke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXyqZnslfn8

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 23, 2021 12:11 am

We have been cursed to live in interesting times

Winston Smith
September 23, 2021 12:21 am

Sory blokes the the attempt to reduce the prepper red wine stokes to a manageble level hav e hit the brick wall of sobriety.
G’night.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Watched SBS news tonight.

After them watching ABC news will actually lower my blood pressure.
They’re still running with the ‘false flag’ theme, + the protesters are endangering the public by not observing ‘health rules’ etc etc.

Strong on the sacrilege of ‘occupying the shrine of remembrance’.
No mention of national anthem singing or peacefulness of the protesters, just that the police had to respond to the mob with kinetic action – made it sound like the cops did not start it & that the protesters got what they deserved for going against the wishes of Maximum Leader.

The real shocker was they took quotes from the police & from CFMEU head office – & made out like that was a quote from each of the two parties involved – as if the CFMEU office is the legal & lawful representative of the protesters.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 1:58 am

I wonder who constructed the Melbourne Shrine of Remembrance?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 2:06 am

The arse-wipes bemoaning ordinary folk heading to the Shrine ignore that it was those same peoples forebears, the common ordinary people, who fronted up to fight for Australia in lots of Wars.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 2:12 am

Hopefully any Union Member of CBUS has submitted their withdrawal form to transfer to another Superannuation Fund.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 2:25 am

And Poofta Pansy RSL types can get fundamentally far away…

Go support your high heel queer.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 2:34 am

fkn RSL allowed the then xunt head of The Australian Uni-Party, Julia Gillard, to lead an Anzac March to the Shrine wearing a communist red beret.

Fk off RSL

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 2:52 am

I want to see Daniel Andrews’ drug record.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 3:07 am

Who will look after the poor benighted Afghani poppy growers?

Surely mandatory heroin shots for school kids is reasonable?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 3:23 am

Black Shirt VikKoks are the actual poofta Illinois Nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z75DN5r_6H4

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 3:39 am

poofta means parcels of olfactory feast take away.

Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 4:16 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 4:39 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 4:49 am

Joe Biden calls Jimmy More.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyhNdv7Qv7w

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 4:49 am

Dore, not More.

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 5:14 am

Holman Jenkins in the WSJ. Get rid of the FBI.

It’s a useless, malevolent organization. Just the other day, with no indication of any crimes committed it’s agents went to a Beverly Hills bank and opened up all the safety deposits. It’s agents then took all the valuables and the money it found in the boxes and informed the IRS. At no stage had the owners been accused or charged with any wrong doing.

Just get rid of it. It’s an ugly despicable institution.

Abolish the FBI
How much more do we need to learn about 2016 to realize the agency is a disaster?

In ignoring the latest John Durham indictment, most of the media and official Washington are ignoring the elephant between its written lines: the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Mr. Durham, the special counsel appointed to investigate the government’s handling of the Russia collusion mess, levels a single criminal charge against Michael Sussmann, then a lawyer for the Democrat-linked firm Perkins Coie. In delivering to the FBI fanciful evidence of Trump-Russia collusion a few weeks before the 2016 election, Mr. Sussmann is alleged to have lied to the FBI’s chief lawyer, James Baker, claiming he was acting on his own behalf and not as a paid agent of the Clinton campaign.

Already you might be rolling your eyes. Mr. Durham provides ample reason in his own indictment for why the FBI would have known exactly whom Mr. Sussmann was working for. If Mr. Sussmann didn’t lie at the time, Mr. Baker may have lied since about what transpired between him and Mr. Sussmann.
Either way, we are free to suspect the FBI would have found it useful to be protected from inconvenient knowledge about the Clinton campaign’s role. The same FBI then was busy ignoring the political antecedents of the Steele dossier, also financed by Mr. Sussmann’s law firm on behalf of the Clinton campaign, information that the FBI would shortly withhold from a surveillance court in pursuit of a warrant to spy on Trump pilot fish Carter Page.
Mr. Durham, in describing the Sept. 19, 2016, meeting with Mr. Baker, suggests that a properly informed FBI might have thought twice before opening an investigation into Mr. Sussmann’s phony story about the Trump Organization and Russia’s Alfa Bank. This is a way also of saying the FBI might have found it harder to proceed without the political deniability that Mr. Sussmann’s alleged statement provided.
At this late date, none of this can be consumed without recognizing that the FBI was already hip-deep in the 2016 election. It began a few weeks earlier with Director James Comey’s insubordinate, improper (according to the Justice Department’s own inspector general) intervention in the Hillary email case. We learned much later that Mr. Comey justified this unprecedented action by referring to secret Russian “intelligence” that his FBI colleagues considered a red herring and possible Russian disinformation. Your eyes should really be rolling now.

Mr. Comey thereupon created the preposterous jam for himself when new information surfaced in the Hillary case, which led him to reopen the case shortly before Election Day and likely tipped the race to Mr. Trump. Of course the “new information” turned out to be a nothingburger. Worse, the information had been sitting unnoticed in the FBI’s hands for weeks.
These antic actions, along with the subsequent FBI leakfest aimed at undermining the president it just helped to elect, might be written off as a singular consequence of Mr. Comey’s overweened sense of importance.
But this doesn’t explain the FBI’s top counterintelligence deputy, Peter Strzok, engaging in compromising political banter on an FBI network while playing a central role in the FBI’s most politically sensitive investigations. It doesn’t explain FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith’s criminal act of falsifying agency submissions to the surveillance court.
Ask yourself: In what way, in anyone’s memory, has the FBI covered itself in glory? The Larry Nassar case, in which it failed to pursue a serial abuser of teenage gymnasts? The Noor Salman case, in which it trumped up a failed prosecution of the innocent and abused wife of the Orlando nightclub shooter? The Hatfill case, in which it attempted to railroad an innocent scientist over the 2001 anthrax attacks?
Ironically, Hollywood is now the FBI’s biggest devotee because the agency’s screw-ups are fodder for its best movies. The FBI’s role in the assassination of Black Panther Fred Hampton was the subject of “Judas and the Black Messiah.” Its persecution of an innocent security guard in the Atlanta Olympics bombing was the theme of “ Richard Jewell. ” Its cosseting of the criminal psychopath Whitey Bulger was a central pillar of the Johnny Depp film “Black Mass.”
The FBI’s last extended run of good publicity, aimed at helping live down the smell of J. Edgar Hoover, came more than 50 years ago thanks to Efrem Zimbalist Jr. and his weekly show on ABC, “The F.B.I.,” which went off the air in 1974.
By now, after its performance in the 2016 election, the evidence might seem conclusive that the agency is a failed experiment, however able and dedicated many of its agents.
Its culture at the top seems incapable of using the powers entrusted to it with discretion and good judgment or at least without reliable expectation of embarrassment. The agency should be scrapped and something new built to replace it. One possibility is a national investigative corps that would be more directly answerable to the 93 U.S. attorneys who are charged with enforcing federal law in the 50 states.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 5:24 am

The fact that the FBI doesn’t even care about getting caught is an escalation.

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2021 5:57 am

Has Aussie cossack considered having his FPO judicially reviewed?

will
will
September 23, 2021 5:57 am
Mater
September 23, 2021 5:57 am

9h
Replying to
@paul_dowsley
and
@7NewsMelbourne
Sorry, don’t care. If he was not there it would not have happened

Same could have been said about George Floyd and Rodney King…but of course it wasn’t.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 6:00 am
rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 6:01 am

That’s some free clicks for Ted btw, all part of the cunning plan.

Zatara
Zatara
September 23, 2021 6:08 am

Here’s a good resource from ‘The Last Refuge’ just in case recent events are quietly removed from social media and banished to the forgettery:

<a href="https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/22/melbourne-australia-police-and-riot-squads-fire-upon-peaceful-protestors-while-media-frame-covid-anti-lockdown-protests-as-domestic-extremists/Melbolbourne Australia Police and Riot Squads Fire Upon Peaceful Protestors While Media Frame COVID Anti-Lockdown Protests as Domestic Extremists

Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 6:11 am

So it’s become obvious our government knew full well what the nature of this virus was at the start of the pandemic. This is obvious since scumo and co started negotiating the AUKUS treaty at the very start of the pandemic.

It is obvious the west is playing appeasement with china, trying to avoid the unavoidable war that is coming.

History has shown that either these communist regimes collapse internally or are forcefully collapsed externally. Given the belligerence of the CCP and the spinelessness of the chinese people, the only option on the cards is the later.

The encroachment of chinese social credit into our daily lives, courtesy of the pandemic has also been planned since well before the delta variant came along.

The inconvenient fact that the delta variant does not stop transmission makes the passports entirely pointless, nevertheless the health bugmen in conjunction with the WHO, who are in the pockets of the CCP, have no intention of not wedging us with this bit of digital chinese style social credit fascism.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 6:16 am
Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 6:22 am

Ted Cruz gets stuck into Facebook

Using facebooks own policy, we need to cancel facebook and instagram due to breach of community standards that lead to harm.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 6:23 am
rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 6:25 am
Zatara
Zatara
September 23, 2021 6:29 am

Next time someone mentions a ’Super Spreader’ event consider this, the US college football season started a month ago and has been full of events like these.

FSU vs. Notre Dame

Penn State vs. Auburn

Florida vs. Alabama (Gotta love them singing ‘Won’t back down’)

100,000 people screaming and singing at the top of their lungs standing right next to each other and if they are comparable to the national average at least 45% of them are non-vaccinated.

Not a mask in sight, no ‘social distancing’, and no Covid passports were checked at the gates.

Oh, and no related increase in Covid cases.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 6:33 am

Zatara it’s insane how different things are in some US states.
New York is a different America.
My friend in the midwest refuses every to step foot in New York or California, since forever.
I can see why.

Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 6:34 am

Chinese Communist Defector Says China INTENTIONALLY Released COVID, Warned The US In November 2019

when we look at the chinese covid stats even taking into consideration that the chinese under-report the numbers, even if we consider that they are underreported by an order of magniture. The chinese covid stats, given an order of magnitude under-reporting are still AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE LOWER THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD.

It is clear the chinese were prepared, by way of a traditional vaccine well before the pandemic was spread to the world. Again we see that the chinese could have waited and stolen the tech for an mRNA vaccine the same way that russia did, but they didn’t need to and they still have not. No need, they had a normal vaccine that works.

they released the virus to test it in mid 2019. satisfied with the kill rate they staged a fake accident at the wuhan lab as a backup plan and pointed to the wet market as the source and proceeded to lock down transport around the country while ensuring the virus went international.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 23, 2021 6:41 am

TikTok is useful after all .

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 7:15 am

The (for the moment) sergeant in rosie’s link:

Look, I’m just as over this fucken protest as you are, all right? My wife lost her job as well.

He will be hunted, across the globe if necessary, in the manner of a cheeky archbishop.

Saying what you think. Well I never.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 7:23 am

Watch the AOC’s & Pelosi’s spin this.

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
“The Biden administration is seeking a private contractor to operate a migrant detention facility at the U.S. Naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, with a requirement that some of the guards speak Spanish and Haitian Creole.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-admin-seeks-contractor-run-migrant-detention-facility-gitmo-guards-n1279886

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 7:25 am

Glenn Greenwald doing a victory lap over the independent verification of the Hunter Biden laptop.

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Hunter Biden got paid $50k/month to sit on board of a Ukrainian energy company in an industry he knew nothing about while his dad was in charge of US policy in Ukraine.

Now he’s going to get up to $500k per painting while his dad is President.

Because of merit and talent.

Gab
Gab
September 23, 2021 7:32 am

Twitter has suspended @ProjectVeritas account.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 7:35 am

Laughing at the j’ism graduates earnestly trying to estimate the percentage of “real tradies” at the protests.
As if that matters.
Anyway.
The dress code for today’s protest is:-
Grey pinstriped suit, black brogues, waistcoat, white shirt, MCC tie, fob-watch, bowler hat, black umbrella and a copy of the Financial Times.

P
P
September 23, 2021 7:40 am

real Rukshan
@therealrukshan
Raw footage of the final two minutes of the protest at the Shrine of Remembrance. 22.09.21

https://twitter.com/therealrukshan/status/1440672256338714630

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:43 am

From over the page for those who missed it, yes, I agree with Rick & it’s well worth sharing around –

rickwsays:
September 23, 2021 at 12:11 am
Great commentary of today’s events by this young bloke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXyqZnslfn8

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 23, 2021 7:43 am

All the various disinfectants advertised, declare they kill
99.9% of all germs/bacteria/viruses/giraffes for a reason*.
I’m surprised Network legal departments haven’t sent out urgent memos
to their news rooms reminding them not to use terms like fully protected
or fully vaccinated for the same reason.
*Glen 20 might kill everything, but that might is a big sign saying Please Sue Me.

Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 7:44 am

Here’s a good resource from ‘The Last Refuge’ just in case recent events are quietly removed from social media and banished to the forgettery:

Zatara, the link you posted at 6.08am has already been deep-sixed, as in “that page is missing”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 7:45 am

Yesterday, when the cops said the protesters at the Shrine had the opportunity to leave unmolested via a particular direction (St.Kilda Road), I thought – well, this is much more sensible. A welcome departure from their previous doctrine of corralling as many people in as small a space as possible and then thinking ‘now what?’.

Leave peacefully, and you can go peacefully, they said. Okay.

Except the people that did exactly that were isolated and pinched as soon as they did so. Now this is one of two things:

1. A predetermined plan to thin out protester numbers. This is very poorly thought out, because the aforementioned people were pinched in full view of the crowd’s remainder, who quite rightly thought ‘fuck that, the lying pricks’; or
2. This idea, and subsequent plan to bring the day to an uneventful end was seen and overruled by uptight VicJack Inc bosses with their pride hurt at being out-thought by what they perceived as a bunch of dumb tradies.

If I had to choose, I’d go with (2) although (1) can’t be ruled out, sadly.

There is a lot of discontent in VicPol ranks right now. A lot.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:49 am

FlyingPigssays:
September 23, 2021 at 2:06 am

The arse-wipes bemoaning ordinary folk heading to the Shrine ignore that it was those same peoples forebears, the common ordinary people, who fronted up to fight for Australia in lots of Wars.

Also, as Topher Field explained, they didn’t want to go their, the poilce kept cutting them off & pushing them there.
When it was the only place left they had to go, they did it with respect and acknowledged that the Freedoms The State was now denying us is what Our Fallen Fought For, so it was an apt place to make a stand.

I still don’t know how other can spin it any other way, other than that they’ve had no education in Honest & Meaningful Australian History for generations.

Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 7:51 am

Thanks, Gab. XXX

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 7:53 am

KD regarding the very SHOUTY copper with the nerf gun who was stared down by Mr Orange Fluoro.
I am almost certain Mr Orange said something disparaging, probably about Plod’s Ninja Turtle ensemble and nerf-gun.
I only wish Mr Orange had done the fall to the ground, shaking limbs like a dying blowfly on a window sill, dramatically going limp and “dying” and then reviving himself like Lazarus.
Street theatre never fully delivers.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 7:53 am

Jacquie Lambie on Skah, talking about the Shrine and respect.

A turn up for the books, if ever there was one.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 7:55 am

Dot, Aussie Cossack probably doesn’t want it lifted. From what I have seen he excels at sopping their time up and resources. The more they do it the more they play into his hands. Just my observations anyway.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 7:55 am

Warren Brown with the Westgate stand-off vs Diktator Dan and Branco, with the Hammer and Sickle on vaxx mandates ar both my choice this morning, after that Leak, on the ‘long Covid’ injuries.

I’ve clicked on various links in various places to some of the sheer brutality on display by VicPol in Black Fascisto uniform including the one where some thugs in army gear (SWAT Team?) deck a lone tradie clearly not being offensive and not hurting anyone. Their punch is fierce, apropos of nothing the man had done, came out of nowhere and was dreadfully audible as is the filming woman’s O my God, O my God. The level of police violence against peaceful protesters has been horrible, not my country any more.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2021 7:55 am

*Glen 20 might kill everything, but that might is a big sign saying Please Sue Me.

The active ingredient in Glen 20 is ethanol. You can get the exact same effect by spraying diluted meths.

Not a lot of people know that.

Twostix
Twostix
September 23, 2021 7:56 am

It was always about the new government licence to be in public.

A Lithuanian writes of life with a vaccine passport system in place, looks identical to what NSW, NT, Vic etc are mandating.

This is what your new society looks like in real life.

In my area, outpatient medical facilities require the Covid Pass or certifications. Several days ago, my family was turned away from a medical facility because we did not have the Covid Pass

Large shopping centers have a machine scanner. When people reach the machine, they scan their Opportunity Pass. If the machine flashes a green light and beeps to signal that the Pass is valid, the guard allows that person to enter

Using a scanning app, the inspectors went from person to person to verify that everyone in the restaurant – customers and staff – had a valid Opportunity Pass and matching ID.

It’s the photos in the article that bring it home. This is real, it is dystopian, and it is permanent. Therefore, this is just the beginning of what it is.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 7:56 am

Jacquie ANZAC.
Two VC’s they say.
Single handedly held off 100 Taliban at Tora Bora they say.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 7:57 am

Mr. Panzer, apropos of VicPol McScreamy:

the fall to the ground, shaking limbs like a dying blowfly on a window sill, dramatically going limp and “dying” and then reviving himself

That’s one of those things where you’re talking to someone or in a group, and then driving home afterwards you suddenly think ‘oh fuck, I should have said this when he said that’.

Could have been the greatest vision in history.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 7:57 am

2. This idea, and subsequent plan to bring the day to an uneventful end was seen and overruled by uptight VicJack Inc bosses with their pride hurt at being out-thought by what they perceived as a bunch of dumb tradies.

They were spinning hard last night that their tactics worked as planned.
Like the footy coach who just copped a ten goal hiding talks about “processes” and “hitting our KPIs”.
If the plan was going beautifully, why did they pull the news choppers live feeds mid-afternoon?

shatterzzz
September 23, 2021 7:58 am

there are heroes no one ever hears about but others ….!

https://ibb.co/vcsdQ1G

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 8:00 am

Lambie-Leste will be very happy with the Shrine response.

See? I told youse we wuz coming to get youse!

Next toyme it will be da granneez!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 23, 2021 8:01 am

Vic AFL clubs issuing statements that they appalled that the Shrine was used as a protest site.
Local football clubs equally appalled that the elite competition thrives and plays while they go broke and sit at home.
Cheap patriotism bought and paid for by Dan Andrews.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:03 am

Jacquie ANZAC.
Two VC’s they say.
Single handedly held off 100 Taliban at Tora Bora they say.

Not exactly.
She got her medals for fighting off footsore grunts and protecting the shiny new boots in the Hobart stores with the Loggie warcry, “Fuck off! That’s my safety stock!”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 8:07 am

I also saw the tweet where some fed-up fascisto-cops agreed with the protesters, saying they were fed up with lockdown too.

They were, of course, just following orders.

And then there were the ones who were sheerly enjoying the opportunity to crush people.
The clip of a woman protester who was part of a crowd running away being chased by a group of cops showed the true nature of some of the pursuers. They pushed her hard while she was running and floored her; she must have been injured by that as well as shocked. They didn’t tackle the men, just a woman whom they could overcome. Hideous behaviour. And it has nothing to do with ‘policing’.

It was sheer thuggery. Of which there were many examples, and while I have seen some footage of violence on the part of a few protesters, it was sporadic, mostly inefectual, and has not been violence of this order, which from what I have seen was an unnecessary cold-revenge stalking violence.

Again, you could not call it ‘policing’ by any stretch of the term.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2021 8:08 am

Palaszczuk demands apology from Hunt as Queensland records one COVID-19 case

The Queensland Premier has demanded an apology from Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt after he revealed yesterday that he had called for an examination of overseas trials of the Pfizer vaccine for young children.

Annastacia Palaszczuk said she had called for a plan for protecting young children weeks ago and had been “attacked” by the federal government.

“I would like an apology from Greg Hunt. I think it is very disappointing that all I’m trying to do is protect this state to protect our children,” Ms Palaszczuk said today.

I too would like to see the risk assessment of vaccine-on-infant action.

Perhaps the moist and lovely Governor General Elect has one she prepared earlier.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 8:09 am

Fastest growing city in the US with over a million residents ?
Tampa.
This is why congress will overturn the SALT limits.
NY & CA can’t keep leaking taxpayers.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 8:10 am

I believe there’s a much more benign rationale behind pulling the news choppers.

It’s pretty standard. Its genesis was the siege years ago where a bloke with shooters had barricaded himself in a house somewhere in NSW. There was a news chopper overhead, from which the camera on board was showing wide shots of where the jacks were, and where they were setting up around the house. The bloke inside was also on the phone to Mike Willesee, I think. It all ended badly in any event.

The premise is that the protest organisers will see in real time where the coppers are going to be, where the busloads of jacks are going etc, and react accordingly.

The fact that on this occasion – whether by accident or design – the protesters have no identifiable ‘leadership’ to target, and that they turn up and melt away in different areas, and that on each occasion over the last three days VicJack Inc have still been coming into the final turn when the protesters and home and hosed seems to have escaped them.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2021 8:10 am

Lambie-Leste.

bwahahaha.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 8:13 am

calli:

Lambie-Leste

Gold. Right up there with yesterday’s cracker, describing one particular copper trying and failing, and which I will use to the grave:

His training ran out.

Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 8:14 am

If the plan was going beautifully, why did they pull the news choppers live feeds mid-afternoon?

Exactly, Sancho. It’s as if the Dickhead Dan Revolutionary Committee and VicPlod copied the Biden regime’s banning this week of Fox News drones filming the collapse of the Mexico border in Texas and the Third World’s illegal immigration onslaught. Whatever it takes to stop the real news getting out.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 8:14 am

From the Lithuania link

But 18 months into this crisis, people now are more afraid of the social stigma than of the virus itself. Outright bans are often unnecessary because most normal, not-wacky people who oppose the policies censor themselves.

Also, 90% estimated to be compliant. No wonder. Look at the list of places you can’t go. And businesses who deal “illegally” with the unvaxxed are fined.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 23, 2021 8:15 am

You probably don’t need to parle francais to work out what’s going on here.
Via Going-Postal– the latest article is rather jolly.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 8:16 am

Doc. More cash for comments? These guys are leaving Sir Joe behind for maleficence. Though looking at Victoria they have some catching up to do on Dan…

shatterzzz
September 23, 2021 8:17 am

Dot, Aussie Cossack probably doesn’t want it lifted. From what I have seen he excels at sopping their time up and resources. The more they do it the more they play into his hands. Just my observations anyway.
Have to agree wholeheartedly, i watched that clip the other morning, 34 minutes long, and at various stages, 4 cars and 7 plod engaged .. and that motor cycle plod creeping around in the background for most of the vid … ALL FOR NOTHING! .. and the mug NSW taxpayers are paying for this farce .. if we are so over-plodded that they have nothing better to do .. stand ’em down .. they can always claim JOBKEEPER same as lotz of the folk they harass …..!

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 8:17 am

Geert Vanden Bossche PhD and his warning to the world against ‘Immune Escape’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9PdZn_Yd5w

Discernable
Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, DVM is an internationally recognised expert in vaccine development. He has acted as global director of a number of vaccine programs around the world, including for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Teaching and working in virology his entire professional life, Geert is raising the alarm over the global vaccination rollout and lockdown methodology which he believes is causative in the immune escape fears being raised by journals such as The Lancet and Science in January/February 2021.

He presents scientific evidence that ‘innate’ immunity is the actual determinant in recovery from and prevention of COVID-19. This is distinct from ‘acquired’ or ‘adaptive’ immunity where pathogenic response in T Cells and B Cells confers a memory upon the immune system. Vaccines work on the ‘adaptive’ immune system, not the ‘innate’ immune system.

His research points to over-zealous infection control procedures, as well as vaccines that do not produce sterilising immunity, as the two key drivers of evolutionary pressure upon Sars-Cov-2 that may result in vaccine-resistant phenotypes of the virus. If correct, this predicts much larger waves of COVID-19 including in younger, previously resistant people. He describes our current actions to combat Sars-Cov-2 as a ‘giant experiment’ and grossly irresponsible on such a global scale”
__________________

And here we are.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:18 am

His training ran out.

No, no, that’s too simplistic.

He suffers from development opportunity saturation.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 8:20 am

She got her medals for fighting off footsore grunts and protecting the shiny new boots in the Hobart stores with the Loggie warcry, “Fuck off! That’s my safety stock!”

She got her medals for wearing the red beret and the big reflective gauntlets, and making sure all the trucks in the convoy went the same way.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 8:21 am

Today is another day of huge pressure to get the vaxx.

If you aren’t vaccinated, you won’t be allowed to have Christmas with us.

We are Lithuania. We just don’t know it yet.

Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 8:22 am

they staged a fake accident at the wuhan lab

that’s called plausible deniability

shatterzzz
September 23, 2021 8:23 am

It’s pretty standard. Its genesis was the siege years ago where a bloke with shooters had barricaded himself in a house somewhere in NSW. There was a news chopper overhead, from which the camera on board was showing wide shots of where the jacks were, and where they were setting up around the house. The bloke inside was also on the phone to Mike Willesee, I think. It all ended badly in any event.
That sounds like the WALLY MELLISH episode … LOL!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 8:24 am

Seducing them into the woods and then shooting the SS men. And lived to a grand old age. See Shatterzzz link to this determined lady. Vale.

Freddie was a great heroine. A recent TV drama about WW2 in Poland (name momentarily escapes me) had its Polish heroine doing exactly that. Modelled on Freddie perhaps, although maybe quite a few women who had seen their loved ones murdered by the SS found that using their feminine wiles to seduce and kill was a good way to revenge them.

The violence on Melbourne’s streets will provoke nothing but anger and revenge.

A great failure of politics and any negotiated outcome. Dan the Enforcer will never listen.
Scott Morrison should look at the upticks on the anti-Dan and anti-fascisto cops comments on The Australian before he opens his mouth again on this issue only to put his foot in it. They are running 75% against the ‘loyalists’ who declare for Dan and the cops, and that figure stands even with the usual supects as moderators.

Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 8:25 am

Dot, Aussie Cossack probably doesn’t want it lifted. From what I have seen he excels at sopping their time up and resources.

they have earmarked him as a russian operative, so he poses a “national security threat”, spreading “misinformation” to sow division.

I think the governments are doing an excellent job all by themselves to sow division

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:27 am

Farmer Gezsays:

September 23, 2021 at 8:01 am

Vic AFL clubs issuing statements that they appalled that the Shrine was used as a protest site.

They weren’t appalled enough on Anzac Day to send 78,000 people home from the MCG out of respect for those who were effectively banned from marching to the Shrine.
Fuck off, McPolo-pony.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 23, 2021 8:28 am

Integrity still exists but TaliDan only sees this as an opportunity to appoint a paid pet.

Peter Parkinson – government-appointed chair of the state’s building industry council which advises Treasurer Tim Pallas – resigned last week after voicing frustration about a lack of consultation and understanding about implications of the new rules from Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton’s public-health team.

Circumstances of his departure were confirmed by four union and industry sources speaking anonymously to discuss the relationship between the Health Department and union and employer groups, which one source said had “disintegrated” in the three weeks leading to the shutdown.

They said Mr Parkinson, who declined to comment when contacted by The Age, had expressed his concerns to the government, which caused tension about whether it was tenable for the chair of the council to be at odds with the government that appointed him.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 8:28 am

Knucles thought the same yesterday when live feeds that were working 24h before to going behind log in walls or not working period with no explanation. As soon as the feed wasn’t live I could see the whole 4 or 5 hours. The attempted NOTAM that was reduced to 60 min confirmed that. Information management campaign.

Will be hunting 3rd party links today when it kicks off and wouldn’t be surprised if big tech start implimenting lags of their own.

PS Thx for the insight from the dark side. Very informative.

Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 8:30 am

It was always about the new government licence to be in public.

The left are in love with Xi. THis was never about health and always about digital fascism 1.0

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 8:32 am

Fuck off, McPolo-pony.

You can hear the whisper down the phone now:

‘We let you operate this season. We didn’t have to. Part-payment of that bill is due.’

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 23, 2021 8:33 am

Xi Jing Ping’s musings.

How do I manage Hong Kong ?
What would Dan do?

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 8:34 am

Noted submarine expert KRudd proposing that we allow the French to build the hulls of our new subs while the Americans provide the propulsion system. As if the French would be happy with that.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 23, 2021 8:34 am

Apparently the QLD Police have been given 5 days to arrange mandatory jabs or they will be “laid off” without pay.

shatterzzz
September 23, 2021 8:35 am

If you aren’t vaccinated, you won’t be allowed to have Christmas with us.

Had this conversation with my youngest daughter on Tuesday, .. “Dad you might not be able to see the grandkids (8 of them!) at Xmas if you don’t get vaxxed” ..
Me, .. “Blackmail is blackmail no matter how they phrase it .. in the beginning I just wasn’t bothered but when GLADYS started demanding that was it for me”
“If I can’t see the kids then that’s that but I ain’t getting jabbed, EVER now! .. END OF STORY”
Conversation ended ……..!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2021 8:36 am

In Retribution news:

At least one building worker has already been sacked after attending Monday’s violent protest outside the CFMEU headquarters in Melbourne, and he has accused the construction union of pressuring his employers to lay him off.

He said his employer had called him and told him he had no choice but to remove him from the job as the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union had threatened the business with loss of trade if he did not comply. Several other workers had also been laid off for attending…

The Union in lockstep with Government.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 8:37 am

Peter Parkinson – government-appointed chair of the state’s building industry council which advises Treasurer Tim Pallas – resigned last week after voicing frustration about a lack of consultation and understanding about implications of the new rules from Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton’s public-health team.

The Age also reporting that another top adviser has quit in protest (paywalled).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:38 am

KD, I get that you don’t want live feed going to air of people getting out the side door of the Lindt Cafe whilst the Mad Muesli is watching telly inside.
But General Patton reassured us yesterday at 8:00 am about his superior intel, tactics and weight of numbers.
No need to pull the plug on the telly.
He had it totally under control.
It will be all over by smoko.

Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 8:39 am

this predicts much larger waves of COVID-19 including in younger, previously resistant people

it’s pretty obvious why they are so against ivermectin and other early intervention strategies, they need a verifiable chain of control to run their social credit system. If people can just buy an over the counter medicine or get a simple prescription or order it on the internet the entire social credit system falls apart.

they have no choice but to make ivermectin illegal to pre-scribe off label.
they have no choice but to muzzle doctors saying anything that may slow herding people into digital fascism 1.0

it was never about health and always about digital fascism 1.0

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 8:42 am

When I think of all the oh so righteous cats who curse & mock me for the places I’ve been blocked, suspended & banned from, well ….

Gab says:
September 23, 2021 at 7:32 am

Twitter has suspended @ProjectVeritas account.

… at least …In Hell I’ll Be In Good Company – The Dead South
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9FzVhw8_bY

🙂 😉

shatterzzz
September 23, 2021 8:42 am

Simply explained …….. FREE SPEECH …!

https://ibb.co/jgSLxmf

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 8:43 am

Lotocoti
The linked articles in that French tweet say that footage is from a pay dispute between a nephew and his uncle.

https://twitter.com/mywayTurkey/status/1437770016368300036

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 23, 2021 8:44 am

There is a lot of discontent in VicPol ranks right now. A lot.

“Zey ver only followink orders” says our vikplod apologist in chief.
Every cop has had a career time or 25 years to do/say something. “Helllllooo? Did someone turn off the microphones?”
“Rotten putrescence from top to bottom” does not even begin to describe it!

struth
struth
September 23, 2021 8:44 am

Yesterday’s protestors were corralled at the shrine by police who chased them there after opening fire on them without provocation.

As the protesters were peaceful and picking up their own rubbish while there and ensuring not one threw anything at police the storm troopers knew they were in a pickle as there were independent journalists live streaming.
I watched the entire day unfold by non main stream journalists like Avi, from the very start.

In a shocking display of dishonesty the police to the right of the protesters dropped a knee as they did for the BLM.

This fooled the protesters who were overjoyed and ran toward them with glee.

The stasi then moved forward at the front.

There was a stand off for hours as the police were being filmed and needed to respond to violence that never came.

Eventually they said they would let the protesters go if they left in small groups toward St Kilda rd.

Those that did were arrested.

All was still peaceful so once enough had left they attacked needing vision of “violence” they provoked as soon as the independent media thought it was all over……for use by the MSM.

Amazing to see independent journalists cut their live feed because it was completely peaceful and everyone but a few stragglers had gone home, after watching the entire day through a live feed, to find on turning on the MSM, there had been a violent battle!!!!
The truth is, they started firing on men, women and children.
Unarmed, peaceful, men women and children.
On our Shrine.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:45 am

Watching the footage at the shrine yesterday I saw a young woman being arrested and dragged off by two male coppers.
She was putting up a bit of a struggle.
Next thing the biggest fucking landwhale waddles into view.
Massive wobbly swathes of fat hanging off the back of her arms.
“POLICE” it said on the back of the vest.
I think she confiscated a Subway foot-long the young woman had in her bag.

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2021 8:47 am

Apparently the QLD Police have been given 5 days to arrange mandatory jabs or they will be “laid off” without pay.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if THEY went on strike? What could they do?

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 8:48 am

There is a lot of discontent in VicPol ranks right now. A lot.

Dismayed they weren’t allowed to go in harder?

Or of the “I was just following orders” variety?

Either way, they’ve lost whatever public respect they still had.

Good luck getting that back anytime soon.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 8:49 am

Shatterzzz.

There is a simple solution as not being vaxxed doesn’t make your grandchildren invisible to you.
See them anyhow.
There are many people more or less skirting lockdown laws right now to see family, vaxxed and unvaxxed.
Why should that change with passports?

struth
struth
September 23, 2021 8:49 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 23, 2021 8:49 am

Okay, going out on a bit of a limb here.

I, like many others here, have been watching the protests in Melbourne. Vikplod have reverted to thugs as soon as they are removed from their carefully policed policing roles, and this is an extension of the panic running rampant through the Andrews government.

But I balk at lionising the lads at the CFMEU. It just happens that their cause is mine.

In the normal course of events union members are party to their leadership’s schemes: Locking out non-members from worksites, engaging in go-slows or concocting OHS issues to strong arm the people who are paying them. They have never hesitated in coercion.

Does anyone believe they would be marching and protesting someone else’s rights?

They are like teeth thinking they are the most important part of the body because without them the body would die. So they see themselves as the most important part of the economy.

In this instance they are opposed to vaccine mandates that would see them have to get the jab whether they want to or not. They are further stung by what they see as betrayal by John Setka, and such an act inspires greater anger than the sight of an ordinary declared enemy.

It is tempting to read more into this. The sight of them marching in vast numbers with chants exhorting people to fornicate ‘the jab’ and ‘Dan Andrews’ is consistent with both the scenario where they are protesting on behalf of all Australians and the one where they are protesting for themselves.

In this case I believe they are right. This testifies to the fact that it is not some elevated principle like protecting the right of people to freely preach their horrible creed like Nazis or Communists, but that sovereignty over one’s own body is so basic that even the wukkaz get it.

What would happen if the NSW dispensations were granted to the Victorian construction industry today? Would they all quietly go back to their worksites walking girders, pouring concrete, blocking the pouring of concrete to intimidate the people who stand to lose tens of thousands of dollars each time, etc?

I think that they would not necessarily go back to site, well at least not right away. I think many of them are enjoying their notoriety, even celebrity. They are being hailed as heroes. But that is their enjoyment and they would eventually go back, and if told to do so then all the quicker.

The CFMEU is a powerful union because their members are indispensable. Simply put, building cannot be offshored. Cars can be made elsewhere. Electronics, medicines, clothing – sure. But if somehow high rise buildings and car parks could be manufactured and merely planted on Australian real estate then the CFMEU would be on borrowed time.

But for now I am on the same side as them and will support opposition to vaccine mandates. But on most other issues I would remain implacably opposed. Nor would I counsel anyone to rely too heavily on the lads from the CFMEU as I think they are fundamentally motivated by (a justified) self-interest, but not a public one.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 8:50 am

Fire, fire, that TV drama on Polish resistance had lots of burning in it.

Aha, memory neurones connected. It was called ‘World on Fire’. We discussed it on the old Cat because there were a few time lapses in the depiction. Hairy noted one guy got across occupied Europe in barely a day. Things like that. It was about 7/10 as I recall it, the story fragmenting with several sub-plots.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 8:50 am

Tomsays:
September 23, 2021 at 7:44 am

Here’s a good resource from ‘The Last Refuge’ just in case recent events are quietly removed from social media and banished to the forgettery:

Zatara, the link you posted at 6.08am has already been deep-sixed, as in “that page is missing”.

I don’t recall which Last Refuge pages Zatara linked to, but these THREE ARE STILL UP & extra links they contain still work –

UPDATE, Livestream Links Added – Melbourne, Australia, COVID Compliance Minister Daniel Andrews Vows To Squash The Trade Union Rebellion and Puts More Armed Police in Place For Day Three Confrontation
September 21, 2021
| Sundance | 611 Comments
It started with a few hundred on Day One. Then Grew to several thousand on Day Two.
RTWT – https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/21/melbourne-australia-covid-compliance-minister-daniel-andrews-vows-to-squash-the-trade-union-rebellion-and-puts-more-armed-police-in-place-for-day-three-confrontation/

Melbourne Australia Police and Riot Squads Fire Upon Peaceful Protestors While Media Frame COVID Anti-Lockdown Protests as Domestic Extremists
September 22, 2021 | Sundance | 422 Comments
On day three of the Melbourne labor union protests against the brutal COVID lock-downs and forced mRNA genetic experiments, the Victorian government decided to open fire upon the peaceful protestors. The police triggered a ‘no-fly zone’ in the Melbourne metropolitan area to stop media from using their helicopters to record the protests and violent police activity.
RTWT – https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/22/melbourne-australia-police-and-riot-squads-fire-upon-peaceful-protestors-while-media-frame-covid-anti-lockdown-protests-as-domestic-extremists/

The Melbourne Tinderbox and Why Americans Should Pay Attention
September 21, 2021
| Sundance | 490 Comments
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/21/the-melbourne-tinderbox-and-why-americans-should-pay-attention/

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 23, 2021 8:51 am

It speaks volumes about the Palace Chook that even the ABC is calling her out for dishonest fear-mongering:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-23/fact-check-annastacia-palaszczuk-doherty-modelling/100481476

The Victorian ABC worker soviet, however, seems to have convinced itself that the violence in Melbourne is all somehow Morrison’s fault. Next it will be George Pell’s.

Arky
September 23, 2021 8:52 am

Sancho Panzersays:
September 23, 2021 at 7:57 am

..
I forgive you.
You’re coming good again.

Baba
Baba
September 23, 2021 8:53 am
Arky
September 23, 2021 8:53 am

Armadillosays:
September 23, 2021 at 8:34 am

..
I’ll never forgive you.
You’re still a stinking pox.

Arky
September 23, 2021 8:54 am

Phew, eh?
It’s nice to wake up and feel love, humanity, forgiveness, all that stuff.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 8:54 am

Apparently the QLD Police have been given 5 days to arrange mandatory jabs or they will be “laid off” without pay.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if THEY went on strike? What could they do?

The vaccine mandate was announced on 2 September. Deadline for first dose is mid-October.

The union is supportive.

A group of c. 30 officers were raising funds to mount a legal challenge – not sure where that’s at atm.

Zipster
Zipster
September 23, 2021 8:54 am

REVEALED: Daszak Admits Fauci Funded Chinese Coronavirus Research at Conference Featuring Hunter Biden-Linked Pandemic Group

DNC+Xi = treason

struth
struth
September 23, 2021 8:55 am

You are a moron, Notafan, and fucktards like you need to STFU now.

What if your grandchildren are interstate?

I picked you from the beginning and copped flak for it.
Now many people are working out what a pig ignorant, virtue-less whore to tyranny you are.

And the language is warranted.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 23, 2021 8:58 am

Anyone know what time play commences for Day 4?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:59 am


Rogersays:

September 23, 2021 at 8:34 am

Noted submarine expert KRudd proposing that we allow the French to build the hulls of our new subs while the Americans provide the propulsion system. As if the French would be happy with that.

The Camel Class submarine.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 23, 2021 8:59 am

So we have shifted straight to Sekta being able to get people sacked if they attend protests.

An unelected “man of the workers” who will not only sell you out for a turn on stairman Dans crooked chode but will blackban your employer unless he sacks you.

If only there was an old 1930’s or so vintage word you could use to describe this sort of behavior.

Building worker sacked, allegedly under union pressure, for attending protest

At least one building worker has already been sacked after attending Monday’s violent protest outside the CFMEU headquarters in Melbourne, and he has accused the construction union of pressuring his employers to lay him off.

So that is an illegal act. No ifs no buts about it.
https://www.fairwork.gov.au/employee-entitlements/protections-at-work#undue-influence-or-pressure

A worker from a CBD construction site who attended Monday’s protests told The Age on condition of anonymity that he was sacked on Tuesday morning. He said he was not opposed to vaccination and had not been violent at the protest.
He said his employer had called him and told him he had no choice but to remove him from the job as the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union had threatened the business with loss of trade if he did not comply. Several other workers had also been laid off for attending, the worker said, which has been confirmed by The Age with third-party sources also speaking on condition of anonymity because they feared for their futures in the industry.

Not only illegal, but also the sort of thing an intelligent 9haha) Liberal party could use to destroy the CFMEU, except they are in bed together.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/cfmeu-engaged-in-blackmail-extortion

On Wednesday, CFMEU secretary John Setka said anyone involved in the protest “may as well go pick fruit in Mildura somewhere because they will not be working in our industry”.

“We don’t need morons, drunken morons, that think … throwing bottles at people is a good way to protest. They can go somewhere else,” Mr Setka said.

The worker, who is a CFMEU member with 25 years’ experience, said he had left-wing views and had received two COVID-19 vaccinations.
“I went there to support the blokes, to support freedom and to support freedom of choice,” said the worker, who requested anonymity as he feared repercussions.

Soneone just found out his freedom of choice was carefully curated by Mr Sektas mob. He was free to do what they approved. No more.

The CFMEU has supported vaccinations but does not back mandates imposed by employers or the government. Some members argue its stance against mandatory vaccination, which the government imposed last week, has been too weak.

They laid doggo, because nothing says
“worker safely” more than compulsory medical treatments.

The worker said he and his colleagues had become angry on Monday morning after being presented with a proposal to work six hours without break but to be paid for eight. “People have had a gutful,” he said. “We said f— this, we are going to march and get some answers.”

The CFMEU has been working to identify construction workers who attacked its Melbourne headquarters, with Mr Setka telling ABC Breakfast on Wednesday it was trawling through footage on Facebook and other video taken at the protest. “We don’t need people like that. Our industry, we try to make it safe,” he said.

So the ABC has just flat out reported individuals will be identified, targeted and made unemployed by a union boss himself.
But finds this a good thing?

The worker who was sacked said he feared he would be driven out of the industry and unable to support his family. He estimated well over 90 per cent of the crowd when he was there on Monday were building workers. “It was genuine angry workers.”

Not any more mate. You have been labeled as fruit picking neo garage natzis now by no lesser person than the head of the organization protecting your “rights”.

However, Mr Setka on Tuesday described them on radio 3AW as “pigs, drunken morons” and said: “I will not pander to them.

“So you know what, there will be consequences out of this. We are not going to tolerate this. Melbourne doesn’t need this.”

Has Mr setka said anything about the worker who suicided on his closed construction site, or was he distracted by the assault on his dignity??

Mr Setka’s repudiation of the protests won support from Labor leader Anthony Albanese on Wednesday, though he maintained he was right to push the union leader out of the ALP in 2019. Mr Albanese highlighted anger from the CFMEU leadership and other unions such as the nurses over the protests, which included a contingent of construction union members.

Albo, his instinctive blowjobbing of any freedom defiling actions will surely catapult him to the lodge this time? After all why vote for milquetoast tyranny when you can go for the real thing?
….

Some of Monday’s protesters were drawn from Mr Setka’s powerbase in the Croatian community and rely on him for work as part of patronage networks.
Im sorry?
Patronage machine unions, in the 21st century?
Echoes of Tammany Hall.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 23, 2021 9:00 am

You’re still a stinking pox.

Good morning, Arkmeister. [waves]

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 23, 2021 9:00 am

MSM losing touch with the public as they egg on the VicStasi.
Some are stating to see the problem.
Tony Jones 3aw just on air interviewing Rukshan about yesterday’s events.
Points taken.
-Protestors ended up at the shrine by police corralling not intent.
– A mixed group of people in the protest.
Teachers and nurses present, not just tradies.
– Police behaviour was tempered by the location.
– Rukshan footage is being used by MSM because the crowd are openly hostile to them.

Rukshan was at his ever calm best.
Jones said he’d keep in touch for on the ground coverage.

struth
struth
September 23, 2021 9:00 am

What would happen if the NSW dispensations were granted to the Victorian construction industry today? Would they all quietly go back to their worksites walking girders, pouring concrete, blocking the pouring of concrete to intimidate the people who stand to lose tens of thousands of dollars each time, etc?

Why should they be protesting for everybody else?
Why isn’t every body else out protesting too?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 9:00 am

Does anyone believe they would be marching and protesting someone else’s rights?

Mother-lode, all who go out to march have a mixture of reasons for doing so. One doesn’t have to agree with all of these reasons to see value in some of them. One black guy put it well when he said he was sorry he hadn’t joined in any of the protests made earlier, not CFMEU ones. But he was making up for it now. Not sure he was even CFMEU – his accent was unusual, Aussie worker crossed with a hint of educated Indian.

I think the idea of being forced to bodily submit against one’s will was the over-riding thing, and objection to the resultant ‘passport’ that would divide society so badly and unfairly. Plus the fed-upness with the lockdowns. Endless in Victoria. Even some of the cops when spoken to by ordinary workers as ordinary people themselves admitted as much. They didn’t want to do this job.

I am going now to put an uptick on your comment, because it does need to be said.
Admiration of the CFMEU is not widely felt around here. 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 9:00 am

That sounds like the WALLY MELLISH episode … LOL!

Police handed Mellish an M16 rifle and 200 rounds of ammunition….

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 9:02 am

Zatarasays:
September 23, 2021 at 6:08 am
Here’s a good resource from ‘The Last Refuge’ just in case recent events are quietly removed from social media and banished to the forgettery:

Yeah, it was just the link that was bad (why I just copy & paste links as they are in the address page rather than try to post them via the “link” button 😉 ), but all the Conservative Treehouse pages are still up & full of more links.

Anyway, a key point & sign off from one of their earlier pieces many here missed –
The Melbourne Tinderbox and Why Americans Should Pay Attention
September 21, 2021 | Sundance | 490 Comments
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/21/the-melbourne-tinderbox-and-why-americans-should-pay-attention/

[…]
However, regional union secretary John Setka turned a deaf ear to the concerns of his members and would not listen. Angry at his members Setka asked, “What do you want me to do, shut it down?“, meaning use the power of the union -strike if necessary- to push back against the government. The members said “yes”, exactly that. However, union boss Setka was unwilling as it appears he’s in alignment with the objectives of the Premier.

This is a familiar scenario to many, particularly in the United States. Union leadership in bed with government and disconnected from the underlying union workers.
[…]
This corrupt and manipulated system is what generates the flames…. that heats the slow-boiling pot… we are trapped in. Our efforts to fight or push back have been met with even more oppressive approaches by government, media and Big Tech. Yes, the tinderbox in Melbourne Australia is very much in our future…. Take heed.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 23, 2021 9:06 am

This is a nasty nasty cop. No need to do this. If this wasn’t a cop it would be years in jail methinks…

https://twitter.com/earl_goat/status/1440809769388838914?s=21

Warning: violence NSFW

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 9:06 am

You are the moron st ruth.
One of my children and a grandchild live in qld which after all the attention you pay me, you should well and truly know.
As for seeing family in lockdown.
I’m talking about locally, obviously.
If we can do it now we can do it under a passport regime. I have several family members who refuse to get vaccinated and yes my family may or may not have, on multiple occasions already breached the lockdown rules.
If we can do it now, then given the extraordinary difficulties that should occur with policing private visiting under a passport regime in a city with a population of five million, we’ll do it in the future too.
You really have no idea what goes on in lockdown land.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 9:06 am

MSM losing touch with the public as they egg on the VicStasi.

David Speers saying its Morrison’s fault & doesn’t even mention Vikpol.

Look…over there!

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2021 9:07 am

Anyone asked KRuddy for his thoughts on the NBN?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 9:08 am

Mole.
I heard Setka on 3AW the other day.
I reckon there were at least three breaches of the FWA by threatening to have people sacked from building sites.
On tape.
Will he be charged?
Nup.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2021 9:09 am

Speersy and La Tingle are desperate to join the cool kids.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 23, 2021 9:10 am

And I didn’t realise that Avi was arrested. I’d say that Rukshan is going to be targeted today. Too much counter narrative

https://twitter.com/rebelnewsonline/status/1440808997385240578?s=21

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 9:11 am

So not having a lunch break was Mr Setka’s solution to the no tea room problem.
We all know the Labor party abandoned working class people a long time ago.

cohenite
September 23, 2021 9:11 am

Pedro the Loafersays:
September 22, 2021 at 11:40 pm
Fat Tony at 10.51pm above has nailed it.

Every single licensed firearm in Australia can be declared illegal with a stroke of the government pen with huge penalties for not handing them in and warrantless search and seizure. They will kick your door down, handcuff you and trash your house to steal your property because “public safety”.

That’s why you join this mob:

https://www.nationalshooting.org.au/gun-ban-update-minister-gets-over-1000-emails/?mc_cid=d817ce22d9&mc_eid=9cffeb2927

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 23, 2021 9:12 am

Sorry – that was from Australia Day. My bad.

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