Open Thread – Weekend 19 Nov 2022


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Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 5:52 pm

Xi’s Vow of World Dominance by 2049 Sends Chill Through Markets

Poppycock. This looks more like world dominance;

How the Pentagon Is Preparing for War in Europe and Asia

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-pentagon-preparing-war-europe-and-asia-205809

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 5:54 pm

He- Gregory Davis Roberts iirc- is as boring as batshit, and his book was too, even though it was technically tight and financially successful.

Wally, you’re an expert of boring, however if his book was ‘financially successful it suggest it wasn’t batshit boring?

Zipster
November 19, 2022 5:56 pm

The Covid/Crypto Connection: The Grim Saga of FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried
A series of revealing texts and tweets by Sam Bankman-Fried, the disgraced CEO of FTX, the once high-flying but now belly-up crypto exchange, had the following to say about his image as a do-gooder: it is a “dumb game we woke westerners play where we say all the right shibboleths and so everyone likes us.”

Among them included the pandemic-planning racket. That’s right: there were deep connections between FTX and Covid that have been cultivated for two years. Let’s have a look.

Earlier this year, the New York Times trumpeted a study that showed no benefit at all to the use of Ivermectin. It was supposed to be definitive. The study was funded by FTX. Why? Why was a crypto exchange so interested in the debunking of repurposed drugs in order to drive governments and people into the use of patented pharmaceuticals, even those like Remdesivir that didn’t actually work? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Regardless, the study and especially the conclusions turned out to be bogus. David Henderson and Charles Hooper further point out an interesting fact: “Some of the researchers involved in the TOGETHER trial had performed paid services for Pfizer, Merck, Regeneron, and AstraZeneca, all companies involved in developing COVID-19 therapeutics and vaccines that nominally compete with ivermectin.”

RTWT

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 5:57 pm

See, that’s how you do it, you blue-letter abuse bores. You fill out your opinions with a bit of life experience, paint a parallel with common cultural touchstones.
Anyhoo, must go and mow the lawn, my AI algorithm is due for maintenance while the sun energy costs less bitcoins.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 6:00 pm

They will probably be running on the excess power from the nukes in the 5 Chinese Bases in the Antarctic.

Alas no Winston. The CCP have already recognized that Bitcoin is a threat.

China declares all crypto-currency transactions illegal (BBC, Sep 2021)

China is fascist, and the same equation applies to all the other protofascist nations, eg the EU, Canada, USA and Australia. We’re not quite where China is yet, but the direction is quite apparent.

The other problem with BTC is that it is useless if it can’t be used to buy things with. When it gets banned so will the ability to convert it into AUD.

There will be some fun though, because micronations like Bermuda and the Caymans will likely allow it to be transferable – with some hefty ticket clipping. The major nations will then be playing whack-a-mole to try and stop this practice. Expect lots of AUSTRAC prosecutions of “illegal” currency transactions.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 6:02 pm
MatrixTransform
November 19, 2022 6:03 pm

Shantaram, which I was forced to hate-read through a bookclub

agreed.
my stupid cousin dumped that piece of crap on me
and I had the misfortune of trying to read it for way too long

I literally dumped it in the rubbish bin in disgust it was so idiotic

note that Apple TV keeps propping up that crap every time the missus turns it on

fucking clown-world

Rabz
November 19, 2022 6:03 pm
JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:05 pm

See, that’s how you do it, you blue-letter abuse bores. You fill out your opinions with a bit of life experience, paint a parallel with common cultural touchstones.
Anyhoo, must go and mow the lawn, my AI algorithm is due for maintenance while the sun energy costs less bitcoins.

A random sentence generator would do better and be more interesting.

Example:

Harrold felt confident that nobody would ever suspect his spy pigeon.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 6:08 pm

What else do we dumb grunts door aspire to?
Once a mindless killer, always a mindless killer!

Uh huh?
You were a Commissioned Officer [unless you’ve been telling lies here].
Who were the “dumb grunts”?

Rabz
November 19, 2022 6:09 pm

cultural touchstones

adidas boxing boots and Levi’s jackets. 🙂

Delta A
Delta A
November 19, 2022 6:11 pm

don’t forget to kiss the cook.

What, again?

2dogs
November 19, 2022 6:11 pm

Hey Monty, defend this.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 6:11 pm

Sorry – was just out back mowing my lawn.

With a flamethrower, because Man Day.

Yes. Yes I am a spook too.

cohenite
November 19, 2022 6:13 pm

NPCs gotta NPC.

Dickless gotta be dickless.

In other news about shitheads that grub merrick garland has appointed a special counsel into Trump and used Trump’s announcement as POTUS 2024 candidate as the reason. That’s pretty funny. The House GOP has also announced it will with-hold funding for this further bullshit witch hunt.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 6:14 pm

… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 1000 people out in the street and shooting them in the fucking head.”
The sort of thing a Spook would say.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:15 pm

For decades, tech has followed this predictable pattern: A tiny squad of genuinely smart, driven, and talented people build something new. If it fails, they vanish. But if it succeeds, the company booms and either makes huge amounts of revenue or attracts huge amounts of investment. Almost without exception, these small “commando squad” companies react to this new pile of money by hiring many new people, most of whom aren’t as smart, driven, and talented. The company bloats up, and loses its edge. It may still be profitable, but it becomes sluggish. It no longer innovates, and instead is dependent on crushing or absorbing new rivals before they take it down.

Plenty of CEOs realize their companies are hideously bloated by wokists, HR types, diversity sinecures, and whiny screamers. To all but the most committed slaves of the ruling ideology, these parasites are simply a price of doing business. But imagine if the price didn’t have to be paid. Musk is putting Andreessen’s theory to the test, and finding out if a high-profile tech company really can be run as an efficient operation, without a bevy of fake jobs attached to satisfy a political ideology.

One battle of the century wasn’t enough for the world’s richest man. We wish him luck.

I hope he gets it right. I think he will though.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 6:15 pm

note that Apple TV keeps propping up that crap every time

matrix – is that crap just randomly generated? I’ve just bought a new 4K Apple televisual unit and haven’t noticed shantaram before on any of the others.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:18 pm

Ed Case says:
November 19, 2022 at 6:14 pm

… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 1000 people out in the street and shooting them in the fucking head.”
The sort of thing a Spook would say.

He’s often advocating killing people. That was a clue to Breivik before he went atrocious. It shouldn’t be tolerated.

Mater
November 19, 2022 6:18 pm

You were a Commissioned Officer
[unless you’ve been telling lies here].

We mindless killers tell lies!
You, of all people, should know this.

P.S. What exactly is the difference between the 29 enlisted swine in a Platoon, and the Platoon Commander, when it comes to killing people?

P.P.S. Grunts (in Australian vernacular) is a term to describe Infantry in general. You’re the expert, you should know this…and the colour of the boathouse at Hereford!

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 19, 2022 6:19 pm

Seriously?

They are very serious calli.
They have won the linguistic battle, amongst many other victories.
For example I went back to read the Daily Mail’s article on the womens’ rugby star Elia Green who at the end of her career “transitioned” from the “gender he was assigned at birth” which “was not the identity he felt deep down” and had “top surgery” because now “with his beautiful partner Vanessa Turnbull-Roberts and their daughter Waitui, he is in a much better place since the transition” and she can “live the rest of my life as her dad.”

When I ask that Green give back her Gold Medal for womens rugby 7s at the 2016 Rio Olympics because if she is a man now, therefore she was a man then, perplexed looks is the only reply.
In fact the whole team should hand back their medals for committing fraud against the IOC.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 6:19 pm

WTF is a “Shantaram”?

I have never heard of it.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:21 pm

It’s a novel, Dot. It’s been currently serialized on Apple TV. Wifey read the book and thought it was okay, but finds the series tedious. I think it was a gals book.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 6:21 pm

hand back their medals for committing fraud against the IOC

Um

committing fraud against the IOC

Err

IOC

HAHAHA!

This is like stealing a vixen’s litter.

m0nty
m0nty
November 19, 2022 6:23 pm

Hey Monty, defend this.

Defend what? Meloni’s non sequitur conflating colonialist exploitation with immigration?

You really are low energy these days, dude.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 6:27 pm

Hey Monty, defend this.

She’s feisty! Today threatened to confiscate the ships of the “NGOs” who “rescue” country shoppers.

Italian Minister Considering Confiscating Migrant Taxi NGO Ships (18 Nov)

Ms Meloni may yet surpass the Donald as the worsest worse-than-Hitler hate figure of the Left.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 6:28 pm

mUttley’s non sequitur conflating collectivism with the petit bourgeois*?

*Of which he claims to be both

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 6:35 pm

The government can take your superannuation at the stroke of a pen and Rudd collected excise tax at a higher rate than the legislation allowed, the GG let it go and the booze businesses did not challenge it.

An attempt to ban cryptocurrencies would not be special. It would also fail because it would ban ripple or any tokens. XYO and XRP are either becoming mainstream or already are mainstream in western nations corporate e commerce.

As it has been said before, BTC is accepted like cash in Japan. It was becoming like that here before a spate of scams rolled in.

…and no I am not convinced these scams are not nefarious or linked to government because the perps never get gaoled, for blatant and openly committed billion dollar fraud as well.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:37 pm

I’ll defend it, 2dogs and happy to. She’s talking complete crap. France doesn’t make money from seigniorage with the CFA Franc. It prints the currency in order to help these countries. Burkina Faso is not constrained to sell gold or any of its commodities to France alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFA_franc

She’s implying France is extorting those countries that use the CFA and it’s patently untrue.

If France was exploitative in this day and age the Africans would be crying foul but they aren’t.

Whenever Meloni is talking about financial matters she often reminds me of bug-eyes AOC. This wasn’t just wrong, it was defaming France.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 19, 2022 6:37 pm

‘You are cancelled simply on the basis of being white’

It took seven years for experts to test the claims in one of the most popular books ever published about First Nations people. Now, the authors of a forensic critique of Bruce Pascoe’s Dark Emu are pulling no punches.

By HELEN TRINCA

It took seven years for Australia’s anthropologists and archaeologists to test the claims in one of the most popular books ever published about First Nations people – the best-selling Dark Emu: Aboriginal Australia and the Birth of Agriculture, by Bruce Pascoe.

And it’s telling that Peter Sutton and Keryn Walshe, who somewhat reluctantly took on the task of challenging Pascoe’s thesis that pre-colonial Aboriginal people were agriculturalists who built stone houses and cultivated the land, are freelancers who work outside the academy.

Their book, Farmers or Hunter-Gatherers? The Dark Emu Debate, published last year, has been short-listed for the Prime Minister’s Literary Awards, in the running for the $80,000 top prize in the history section when winners are announced on December 13.

They were late to the fray, partly because they didn’t take Pascoe’s 2014 book very seriously and were busy with other work, but ­Sutton thinks the silence from the universities stemmed from fear.

“You can lose a job (if you challenge an Indigenous issue),” Sutton tells Inquirer from his home in South Australia. “You can be vilified in public or in social media. It’s notable that both (of us) are retired. Most people didn’t have the stomach for the fight because you are cancelled if you have a view that’s not liked by certain people, you are cancelled simply on the basis of being white.”

He says if the “relevant scholarly professionals” had reviewed Dark Emu – said to have sold more than 250,000 copies, generated a children’s edition, and on school curriculums – they would not have had much of a future.

Instead, says Sutton: “What happened was that Bruce developed more and more of a public image. In fact, he became someone with instant brand recognition among the middle classes.

“(As) part of the genre of anti-racist literature in this country, (Dark Emu) appealed to people who were concerned about the wellbeing of Indigenous people.

“There were lots of stories of gaps that wouldn’t close and other depressing things about children not attending school. So here’s something that comes along with a positive message. It’s anti-British, anti-colonial.”

Sutton says Pascoe’s identification as Indigenous didn’t hurt ­either: “No one would have bought a book … written by a white fella from Mallacoota.”

At 76, Sutton is one of the nation’s most significant social anthropologists and linguists who has worked in the bush for more than 50 years – recording and learning Indigenous languages, mapping Aboriginal cultural landscapes, and working on a total of 87 land claims.

He has written or co-written 15 books on Indigenous issues, including his controversial 2009 challenge to public policy, The Politics of Suffering: Indigenous Australia and the End of the Liberal Consensus.

Born to working-class parents in Melbourne in 1946, he went to “the only school for Christian Scientists’ children in Australia”. He became “devoted” to the metaphysics of the religion and as a young adult spent two years as a Christian Science practitioner, or healer, someone others seek out for “assistance and wisdom and things to read and also for healing”.

Later, armed with his degree in literature and linguistics, he did bush fieldwork, recording – and learning – endangered Indigenous languages in Queensland. He is still in touch with the great great grandchildren of the Old People he sat with 50 years ago.

“There are many (descendants) who don’t speak the language but want to know more about the very big movement in Australia and Canada and the US for language revitalisation,” he says.

In 1970, he made an extensive field trip across the eastern Gulf country of Queensland to Palm Island, working there with Indigenous man Johnny Flinders – one of the last speakers of the Wurriima or Flinders Island language. Johnny is dead and Sutton says that he is now the only person alive who can speak the language.

Back in the city, Sutton spent a couple of years in the sound section at the then Institute of Aboriginal Studies in Canberra before heading bush again in 1974 on a long ethnographic mapping trip. It was a “much more muscular activity (than the language trips) involving some fairly strenuous fieldwork” and Sutton loved it.

The next year, he was out again, mapping hundreds of sites across 300km from the Lockhart River settlement south to Port Stewart. He spent three years from 1976 on field work with the Wik people in Cape York, first for a PhD in anthropology then anchoring the anthropology for the Wik native title case. In 1979, he went to work exclusively on land claims for the Northern Land Council before moving with his young family to settle in South Australia.

Since then he has been largely self-employed, working continuously on land claims, publishing widely, and attending professional conferences. He spent six years as head of anthropology at the South Australian Museum and holds an honorary position with the University of Adelaide. He has done casual teaching, but has never had a permanent university job.

You get the sense he could have done without writing the Dark Emu critique but felt it important to refute an author he accuses of “cherry picking” evidence to suit his thesis. He says: “Scholars have extensive libraries and it took me a few seconds each time to go to my library and pick up most of the sources … and check whether they were correctly used.”

Sutton has written most of the forensic examination of Pascoe’s claims but asked Walshe, who worked at Flinders University and the South Australian Museum before leaving to pursue her own research, to add her archaeological expertise to the book.

Walshe had found Dark Emu impossible to read. “I couldn’t actually get through it … I just began seeing so many problems with it,” she says. “But I could see the pace of the narrative was exciting to some readers and it almost had the thrill of an adventure. I could understand people getting captivated by it.

“But in the end, I was confounded because (the excitement around the book) suggested the average reader, even a well-informed one, doesn’t actually have a good grounding in Australian Aboriginal culture. That was really quite alarming. People seem to be so taken with it … seeing it as a truer history, or perhaps the only history they have ever absorbed.”

Walshe anticipated being caught in the culture wars – “that the Andrew Bolts of the world would latch on to it” – but says it’s not been as bad as she thought. She has been disconcerted, however, when meeting Indigenous people who are unhappy with Farmers or Hunter-Gatherers but who confess they haven’t read it. In the main, those who approach her have felt uneasy about Pascoe’s work and are “deeply grateful” for a cautious, science-based critique.

Did the academy, who know so much about pre-colonial Indigenous life, fail to explain this to Australians? Says Walshe: “In Australia we struggle to popularise academic work. There’s a real gap in the publication market. I don’t think it’s the fault of academics because they’re under enormous pressure to keep up their own profiles via research and they don’t have time to write a popular book.”

Sutton is more direct: “There were heroic efforts to penetrate the wider society for the past 60 years. If people say that we weren’t told about this, they are just showing that they are ignorant … Unfortunately, Pascoe was not aware that many of these issues had been gone into.”

Walshe contributed two chapters that include a refutation of Pascoe’s claims that Aboriginal people have been present on the continent well beyond the generally accepted span of more than 60,000 years.

“Some of his claims were pretty wild, getting up to 100,000 to 120,000 years, for which there’s ­absolutely no evidence at all,” ­Walshe says.

She also challenges Pascoe’s claims that western Victoria and the area around Lake Condah was a region of complex eel farming where permanent populations built stone houses and preserved food.

Walshe says western Victoria is “a fabulous place, and archaeologically it’s really interesting, there’s no disputing that, but the claims for the processing of eels I have always felt were exaggerated and unfounded. Certainly, people were trapping eels and catching eels. It was a seasonal activity that people flocked to and really enjoyed. It was a chance for high protein and plenty of food. So I could imagine that a lot of people would have gathered at that time of year. But they did not preserve yields, there is no evidence for this whatsoever. They did not smoke eels in trees, and then store them somewhere for the rest of the season so they could be sedentary in that area.”

And the stone houses? She says rocks were used as a base for scaffolding of tree branches and foliage to create a “warm, snug, cozy little hut” but there is no evidence of more significant dwellings. Nor does there need to be: “(The area) deserves the World Heritage nomination and status. We don’t need to exaggerate it, it is already incredibly impressive.”

Pre-colonial Aboriginal people were great conservers, she says.

“People took what they needed for the purposes of not just feeding yourself but for that communal living. To come together as hunter-gatherers was so important, to be able to share food, because in sharing food, of course, you share story, you share culture, and you create cohesive groups, but there wasn’t any excess … there’s no concept of long-term storage.”

Sutton and Walshe reject Dark Emu’s implication that agricultural society is more developed and “better” than that of hunter-gatherers. “I don’t go with the hierarchies,” says Walshe. “I don’t think it’s a linear progression: we don’t start off as hunter-gatherers anywhere in the world and then finally find our way into agriculture. I think that’s a complete fallacy. There is never any need for a group of people who are living a highly successful and sustainable life to suddenly become agriculturalists.

“It’s certainly not racist to say that hunter-gatherers who were living here were among the best, if not the most supreme, hunter-gatherers in the whole world. Most hunter-gatherers on other continents have had to cease under­taking their way of life or compromised and taken on bits of agriculture and so on, but it was here in Australia right up until almost 1800 that they were living as complete complex hunter-gatherers. That’s remarkable.”

For his part, Sutton is scathing about the idea that “people were actually closer to being British farmers” and thus more advanced. Such thinking, he says, “is the road to hell, because it’s going back to social evolutionism. It’s also a bit insulting to kind of (say) who’s the clever boy now, or they’re so clever. That’s demeaning.”

He concedes Dark Emu has reached a whole new audience and encouraged people to think about Indigenous issues. But he says: “The trouble is there is so much misinformation and disinformation in Dark Emu that someone has now created a body of people whose ignorance or blankness has been replaced by a mixture of fact, fantasy and untruth. That’s an awfully big job to get that undone.”

Oz

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 6:39 pm

Big Mitchy Stark – two wickets in the first over!

Moaners 2/0 after five balls. Dressing room complaints being registered apropos of kipper temperature and texture.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 6:43 pm

Old Ozzie/Flyingkud:

Janes, a British intelligence firm, said it believes Russia is actually building more missiles, possibly using stockpiled microchips and other technology embargoed by the US and its allies for years.

I wonder if the ‘Allies’ are going into this war with a production system largely similar to Germany until ’42ish. Production runs largely by batch order. Remembering it was producing the Me 109 in batches during the week while the Russian Offensive was at its peak in 42/43, and the factories were still making pianos to cover the Hamburg 1000 bomber raids.
There don’t seem to be production runs of fighter aircraft and tanks as before – and weren’t the Abrams stopped at 11000/14,000 hulls years ago and the newer marks just refurbished hulls with newer and admittedly much better armour and missile protection? Even ammo seems to be a continuation of the stop go system, the current 155 mm stocks suffering from this same procurement problem.
I’m not sure about the US armament procuring details, but it seems to put the manufacturers interests first and not Defence needs.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:44 pm

You know, it’s a terrible thing Meloni said about France. The CFA is pegged to the Euro. The French obviously are more trusted financially than those African countries that use the CFA. In a sense, France is helping these countries by allowing them to use its credit rating (to some extent).
Meloni’s comments were made by an imbecile. Perhaps it’s more to do with some argument about policing the Med to stop the flow of illegals.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 19, 2022 6:45 pm

What’s the matter with kids today?

30 y-o Sam Bankman-Fried sends FTX into bankruptcy.

38-year-old Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes was sentenced to more than 11 years behind bars on Friday, having been convicted on four counts of fraud after a case that gripped the world.
Her astonishing rise and fall – from the youngest self-made female billionaire in US history to her once $9bn-valued company going under in shame (Sky News)

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 6:50 pm

Born to working-class parents in Melbourne in 1946, he went to “the only school for Christian Scientists’ children in Australia”. He became “devoted” to the metaphysics of the religion and as a young adult spent two years as a Christian Science practitioner, or healer, someone others seek out for “assistance and wisdom and things to read and also for healing”.

Nothing screams “spook” like Christian Science.

Sutton and Walshe reject Dark Emu’s implication that agricultural society is more developed and “better” than that of hunter-gatherers. “I don’t go with the hierarchies,” says Walshe. “

They’ve noticed that Bruce Pascoe has made money, so they’re horning in on his turf.

At 76, Sutton is one of the nation’s most significant social anthropologists and linguists who has worked in the bush for more than 50 years – recording and learning Indigenous languages, mapping Aboriginal cultural landscapes, and working on a total of 87 land claims.

Yep.
Social Anthropologist, eh?
What a wank.

MatrixTransform
November 19, 2022 6:51 pm

is that crap just randomly generated?

doubt it, Rabz. probably tailored exactly to the account holder.

missus wants to watch shantaram … bet she doesn’t even know why

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 19, 2022 6:52 pm

Am watching The Worlds Fastest Indian again on fta. The record still stands, made in 1967. The movie got Hopkins interested in making movies again.

Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 6:52 pm

You know, it’s a terrible thing Meloni said about France.

Shocking. A conservative leader portrays some facts to her advantage trying to win an argument and shove it up the globalist’s bum . Much better she utters the God’s honest truth and doesn’t challenge the filth and waves through the Africans invading her country. Like France.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 6:52 pm

The government can take your superannuation at the stroke of a pen

Yep, which is why it has always been factored out of my “post work” plans.

If I can get my hands on any of it, especially to slay the mortgage, then it’s a bonus.

As a wise Economist mate of mine used to opine: “Rabz, politicians will never be able to resist jacking up taxes on superannuation while making it more difficult to claim”.

He’s been 100% spot on since. In addition to super funds investing in green turkeys, just watch labore impose new and higher taxes on super as well as tightening the conditions under which you might be able to actually claim it – i.e. some small proportion, before you’re toast.

MatrixTransform
November 19, 2022 6:52 pm

WTF is a “Shantaram”?
I have never heard of it.

you’ve been lucky … until now

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:53 pm

Anyone speculating on who are the candidates running for prez are, or what the election will be fought on are kidding.

I mean this could actually help Trump. The special prosecutor worked with Lora Learner whose claim to fame was using the IRS to go after Repubs.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/paul-sperry-has-the-skinny-on-new-special-counsel-jack-smith/

Rabz
November 19, 2022 6:55 pm

Dressing room complaints being registered apropos of kipper temperature and texture

KD, here’s hoping they don’t watch some videos of a certain young English woman during the break …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 6:56 pm

What’s the matter with kids today?

The problem with useful idiots like Sam and Liz is they think if they’re loyal to the Left the Left will be loyal to them in return. Nope. Doesn’t work like that, especially not for outsiders.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 6:57 pm

Shocking. A conservative leader portrays some facts to her advantage trying to win an argument and shove it up the globalist’s bum .

She’s lying about France and any leader from any side should be held to account for lying.

Much better she utters the God’s honest truth and doesn’t challenge the filth and waves through the Africans invading her country. Like France.

You don’t have to lie in order to win that argument.

In any event, 2 dogs wanted a push back response.

cohenite
November 19, 2022 6:58 pm
Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 6:58 pm

The government can take your superannuation at the stroke of a pen

With so many influential leftist Labor turds safely tucked away in the fat Industry Super Funds jobs, doling out billions in investments to unionist projects, I somehow think our Super will be quite safe while Albo is at the helm.

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 6:59 pm

Shantaram…just looked it up.

I am deeply not tempted.

Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 7:00 pm

You don’t have to lie in order to win that argument.

When your opponent is Socialism, winning – by any and all means at hand- is all that matters. And you should know that.

Roger
Roger
November 19, 2022 7:01 pm

Sutton and Walshe reject Dark Emu’s implication that agricultural society is more developed and “better” than that of hunter-gatherers. “I don’t go with the hierarchies,” says Walshe.

No value judgments please…we’re academics.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 7:02 pm

I hit the go button too quickly:
Considering The Soviet Unions main fears – running out of shells for its artillery, and realising Soviet doctrine calls artillery the dominant factor on the battlefield, I think Janes estimate of falling Russian supplies to be more than whistling past the graveyard. There will be factories in the Urals that even if they’ve stopped assembling 155s, they won’t have stopped making fuses, or machining/casting the shells.
“What? The wars over, Comrade?”
“Da. 50 years ago.”
“Then we can stop this shit?”
“Nyet Comrade. We’re stocking up for the next one.”

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 7:04 pm

On the “not swearing in writing” stuff…sadly I must confess. Dover caught me at an angry moment and made it a Liberty Quote. The word was…sh*t.

Oh the shame.

As Dot would say “no lying on this blog”, so now the accounts are cleared.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 7:05 pm

Yes, safe for the unions!

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 7:07 pm

Makka says:
November 19, 2022 at 7:00 pm

You don’t have to lie in order to win that argument.

When your opponent is Socialism, winning – by any and all means at hand- is all that matters. And you should know that.

There’s no reason to lie about leftist positions. They’re easily defeated. And you know something else? It’s a little on the hypocritical side for an Italian PM to be talking anti-immigration – even the illegal type- when it wasn’t too long ago Italy had an emigration minister to assist the flow out of the country of its own citizens.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 19, 2022 7:10 pm

WTF is a “Shantaram”?

It’s like a “Shart” you know, when you fart and follow through, hit mud, strike oil, go the full Biden.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 7:13 pm

Rabzsays:
November 19, 2022 at 6:02 pm
Face of a loser.

Literally paid opposition. All by design of course.

Bluey
Bluey
November 19, 2022 7:14 pm

Winston Smithsays:
November 19, 2022 at 7:02 pm
I hit the go button too quickly:
Considering The Soviet Unions main fears – running out of shells for its artillery, and realising Soviet doctrine calls artillery the dominant factor on the battlefield, I think Janes estimate of falling Russian supplies to be more than whistling past the graveyard. There will be factories in the Urals that even if they’ve stopped assembling 155s, they won’t have stopped making fuses, or machining/casting the shells.
“What? The wars over, Comrade?”
“Da. 50 years ago.”
“Then we can stop this shit?”
“Nyet Comrade. We’re stocking up for the next one.”

The soviet union largely drained the Arel sea making guncotton for artillery. The Russians are not going to run out shells any time soon.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 7:14 pm

Michael Saylor??
@saylor
·

@elonmusk
With 116.6 million followers, your polls are starting to become statistically significant. What if Twitter had an “All Users” poll that you could push to every single twitter account to find out what the entire network is thinking, with no particular adverse selection? ?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 7:16 pm

If you’ve never heard Norm McDonald’s Kitchener Lesslie joke before.

Cassie of Sydney
November 19, 2022 7:17 pm

Whilst I hope Ian Cook knocks off the slug called Dan Andrews, I’m sorry but I don’t believe the jelly back Matthew Groundhog Guy and the Liberals deserve to win next Saturday (they won’t). Please tell me what the difference is between the Victorian Liberals and Victorian Labor? This is utterly disgraceful, from the Oz.

Vic Libs dump candidate with church links

Matthew Guy has confirmed Upper House Liberal candidate Renee Heath will not be welcome in the Liberal Party room should she be elected.

Members of the Victorian Opposition leader’s team have described the move as the strongest possible, given it is too late to disendorse the controversial candidate.

Mr Guy confirmed to reporters on Saturday that Ms Heath, whose candidature for Eastern Victoria attracted attention from Nine newspapers over her religious affiliations, would not sit in the party room should she be elected.

Contacted by The Australian, members of Mr Guy’s team confirmed the move was not a formal disendorsement, given the state election is just days away.

Mr Guy had taken the “strongest action from the options available”, his team explained.

Ms Heath’s name would be present on the ballot as a Liberal Party member but she, if elected, would “effectively act as an independent”, they said.

Ms Heath’s candidature attracted controversy earlier this month after she was revealed to be an active member and shareholder in a Pentecostal church that preached anti-abortion rhetoric.

The Victorian Liberal Party is no better than Essendon Football Club.

Australia 2022 = no Christians allowed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 19, 2022 7:19 pm

Plenty of regulatory risk with superannuation. Now it been up and running for a while the tax concessions are imposing a real cost on government. While the Boomer demographic lump are still around to vote I expect just more continued tinkering. Like private health insurance, they can’t do anything too dramatic and spark a wholesale shift to public hospitals/the pension.

Roger
Roger
November 19, 2022 7:21 pm

I think Janes estimate of falling Russian supplies to be more than whistling past the graveyard.

In late October Putin chaired a meeting of a new Kremlin committee that is charged with increasing the pace of precision munitions production and other materiel as well, down to flak jackets and medical kits for recent conscripts. I guess he wasn’t expecting a drawn out conflict, eh?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 7:27 pm

I hope all you pansies voted

Got to be on Twitter to do that.
I hitherto have declined to provide them with my personal details.

The graph Steven Hayward put up today is fun. If Elon has had resign, or fired, 75% of the Twits he still has 23.7% to go.
Makes Mos Eisley seem a straight-laced place.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 19, 2022 7:28 pm

KD when you go to the Killers Konvention in Adelaide do you introduce yourself as Mr Knuckle-Dragger? How far up the leaderboard are you? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Cassie of Sydney
November 19, 2022 7:28 pm

“Pritzker”

How unsurprising. The Pritzker family are great Demonrat donors. Also the family are big into the whole transgender gunk, they’re making lots of dosh from spruiking it. The current governor of Illinois is Jay Robert Pritzker, Demonrat of course.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 7:29 pm

Ms Heath’s candidature attracted controversy earlier this month after she was revealed to be an active member and shareholder in a Pentecostal church that preached anti-abortion rhetoric.
Top move.
These people are wreckers.

Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 7:32 pm

There’s no reason to lie about leftist positions. They’re easily defeated.

My heart truly bleeds.

Get this straight: When it comes to fighting the left in any sphere or environment ETHICS DO NOT MATTER. All that matters is winning, defeating leftist argument and robbing leftists of the narrative. thrashing the scourge whenever and wherever the opportunity presents. She was doing her job there and that is all that matters.

And don’t be so sensitive about Italian history. Italy’s gifts to western civilization are immeasurable compared to it’s past migratory mishaps.

rosie
rosie
November 19, 2022 7:35 pm

Shantaram is about as tempting as any book ever recommended by Oprah or The Divinci Code, ie not at all.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 7:41 pm

Boambee John:

Too much Wehrmacht penis envy since 1945.

Yep.
Top of the class until ’43 and Operation Citadelle (the delayed version) and hopeless at the Operational/Strategic level thereafter.
I still believe that had they gone with the initial Citadelle Operation as soon as the ground hardened after the rasputitza, they could have damaged the Red Army into impotence for that year and the next winter.
Even then it was a close run with Armee Gruppe Kempf and its major units in the south. Had they broken out into the open countryside, I think Stalin may have panicked because he had about 5 -6 armies in a pocket with no rear fixed defences to seal his rear against German units moving west into the back of the Kessel.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 7:44 pm

Italy’s gifts to western civilization are immeasurable

As a personage of Italiano extraction (with the surname to prove it), Assecondo questo sentimento, Makkini!*

*Accompanied by much colourful hand waving … 🙂

MatrixTransform
November 19, 2022 7:44 pm

The Divinci Code

was camping up the south coast of NSW with the teenagers
and my son’s mate bought that book along.

so while the kiddies were out fishing etc, I started reading it.

got all the way to the last 2 pages when the teenagers arrived back sans fish

aspy kid wanted his book so I gave him it back

and never thought twice about the ending until now

shame about the fish

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 19, 2022 7:48 pm

I never swear in writing Mater.

Standards must be maintained.

Sh*t is known as “mincing your oaths” and is deprecated as vulgar. Anyway, shit is just the old Anglo Saxon term for dung or excrement. Nothing wrong with using it as a metaphor.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 7:51 pm

WTF is a “Shantaram”?
It’s a book you pricks. Bugger me I specifically programmed the WaffleBot algorithm to include nouns like “author” and verbs like “read”, all to deeper blockchain the meme into the matrix.
IF you bothered to read my essays instead of scrolling past like JC assures me he always does…

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 7:51 pm

Johnny:

So why are you saying this stuff? What is your purpose? Are you drunk? WTF? Go to sleep please……….

This blog has long had a minor military bent, and there are quite a few enthusiasts, historians and serving members in the nominal roll.
The part you don’t like is tangential but connected to military theory – the fact that a lot of people think the German armed forces were the creme de la creme outside here is a subject ripe for picking and they quite often get a good arse kicking. Often deserved is the blustering of the Western Armed forces and their sycophants who believe because they won the last war, means they will of necessity win the next even as they lose the capabilities and ignore the lessons that allowed them victory in the last.
So as usual, if you don’t like, scroll past. We don’t mind.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 7:52 pm

The Yeezey – figuratively languishing.

He is unlikely to be rehabilitated in our time, peoples.

A cultural tragedy. Insanity being a heavy burden to bear.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 7:52 pm

cohenite says:
November 19, 2022 at 7:45 pm

Lefties piling on:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I’m not sure it was a great idea to run a poll, but then I’m not Musk. If he loses what happens then? Also, free speech is not something you vote on as it’s basic human right.

rosie
rosie
November 19, 2022 7:54 pm

Considering the liberal party replacement for Bernie Finn was Moira Deeming, the Renee Heath uproar seems a little inexplicable.
a Bernie Finn clone with better hair

Cassie of Sydney
November 19, 2022 7:55 pm

“Clearly, in its current form the Libs are not a conservative party.”

1. The Liberals are anything but a conservative party. In order to be a kosher Liberal candidate, particularly in Sicktoria but also in other states, you must approve of abortion, SSM, homosexuality, queer theory, pederasty, minor attraction, drag queens, teenage girls having their breasts chopped off and , teenage boys being castrated.

2. It’s clear to me that the Liberals are anything but the party founded by Robert Gordon Menzies.

3. Let me tell you what the Liberal Party now stands for, and they’re quite proud of it, and that is spitting in the face of traditional Liberal party voters. They despise us.

As an aside, at CPAC I spoke to a young woman who’s moved to NSW from Victoria. She’s about 25, articulate, very pretty and she works in the Arts here in NSW. She was wearing a cross. We got talking and she mentioned how being a conservative Christian in the Arts was, to say the least, challenging and that her colleagues think she’s from another planet. But they don’t ridicule her, they don’t smear her, and they don’t persecute her. However, when still living in Melbourne she joined a local Liberal Party branch. When other members found out she was a conservative Christian who’s anti-abortion, she was subjected to smears and ridicule.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, sums up the state of the Liberal Party in 2022.

MatrixTransform
November 19, 2022 7:56 pm

it’s basic human right

have you checked you estrogen levels lately?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 7:57 pm

Acksherly there was one half-decent takeaway from all seven hundred pages of that airport brick, and it was along the lines of “Yah no actually Shantaram, you do actually fuss a lot about how you look… you’ll only ever wear jeans and a t-shirt.”
I keep it in mind whenever someone coo’s about Steve Jobs or Elizabeth Holmes or Mark Zuckerberg, or if there’s ever a kook at a wedding who’s got jeans and a Holden bowling shirt on.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 7:58 pm

So Renee Heath is being shunned because she is anti-abortion

As the Deves is for being anti-chicks with middle legs.

If anyone asked me what I’ve been most ashamed of in my life, or the most shameful act I’ve ever engaged in it would be the several times I’ve voted for the gliberal party in various elections.

I’ll regret those idiotic and inexcusable acts until the day I depart this planet, Cats. 😕

Makka
Makka
November 19, 2022 7:58 pm

*Accompanied by much colourful hand waving …

And truly knockout goils…

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 7:59 pm

IF you bothered to read my essays instead of scrolling past like JC assures me he always does…

You assured me you would, but obviously you can’t control yourself. I said I would be happy to ignore your boring waffling but not if I’m mentioned either directly or indirectly. Here’s the thing, you waffling goofball. You suggest in that sneaky underhanded manner of yours that I and few others ought to be banned. If you left today, I assure you that there’s not a single thing you’ve waffled about that would remain memorable. Struphid is great value. “Just aim for the head”, he says.

I do scroll past your other comments. That’s no lie.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 8:01 pm

The word was…sh*t

Shasterixt?

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 8:02 pm

Jorge:
This place? They must get some dodgy stories…
I got a series of photos of my wife’s opals to sell last time in Brisbane, as they were emotionally too difficult to keep, but now I can’t find the photos or the Opals.
Perhaps not meant to happen.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 8:02 pm

MatrixTransform says:
November 19, 2022 at 7:56 pm

it’s basic human right

have you checked you estrogen levels lately?

The fastest lip on any building site, or so he claims.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 8:03 pm

a Bernie Finn clone with better hair

And regrettable dentition: Moira Deemin’

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 8:06 pm

Here’s a little test for you waffles. Don’t mention me either directly or indirectly and see how many times I will call you out on something.

Go!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 8:07 pm

I do scroll past your other comments. That’s no lie.
It’s just checking ctrl-F for the mention of your holy initials then eh JC?
…you’re making the trolling too easy, Shantaram

Rabz
November 19, 2022 8:08 pm

And truly knockout goils…

Sacrini azzurini! 🙂

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 8:09 pm

Oh so you’re proof-reading my waffles just in case I mention you INDIRECTLY
Yep ok gotcha, you’re the very model of discreet self-control and de-escalation aren’t you

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 8:10 pm

Calli:

Kina shells are still used as “money” in PNG. I have a couple of lovely ones here. The other unit is the toea which is a much smaller shell to be formed into strings. They are sewn up to make up a “bride price”, again I have one very old one here.

How much kina did your old man spring for you?
I could imagine it being a talking point around the barbie.
🙂

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 8:12 pm

I was anticipating the last comment, WW and is why I thought to beat you to it. Look, I find your comments dull and senseless sprinkled with that tiny bit of house husband shtick. Keep posting away to your hearts content and you’ll never get a response from me…. until I’m mentioned. Now fuck off and think about posting some more boring drivel.

JC
JC
November 19, 2022 8:13 pm

Wally Dalí says:
November 19, 2022 at 8:09 pm

Oh so you’re proof-reading my waffles just in case I mention you INDIRECTLY
Yep ok gotcha, you’re the very model of discreet self-control and de-escalation aren’t you

It’s not as though you’re doing anything different, Waffler.

Roger
Roger
November 19, 2022 8:15 pm

“Clearly, in its current form the Libs are not a conservative party.”

Is this still up for debate?

In QLD they’ve just voted with Labor to prevent medicos who contradict the government’s public health “advice” from working in the state.

Even the AMA considers this extreme.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 8:16 pm

FlyingDuk:

Why not” It has some history (the original ‘shot glass’ was a single cartridge, swapped for a glass of whisky at the bar) and seems suitable:

Was that .303?
Seems like a good idea.
3 x .308 Federal = 1 Middy XXXX.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 8:18 pm

Hey everyone
In case it’s lost below the page turn, I’m now referring to JC as “Shantaram”.
Also- and this is where it gets seriously childish- whenever I mention “Shantaram” I am also INDIRECTLY referring to JC.
OK
As you were

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 8:18 pm

Clearly, in its current form the Libs are not a conservative party.
No, it’s a Liberal Party, the clue is in the name.
She and Bernie Finn can always join the Labor Party since they’re doing their best to see it returned.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 8:20 pm

3 x .308 Federal = 1 Middy XXXX.
You sure you’ve ever been to Qld, Winston?
Ten ounces of beer is called a Pot up this way.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 8:21 pm

G-Ranga at 7.28

KD when you go to the Killers Konvention in Adelaide do you introduce yourself as Mr Knuckle-Dragger?

No.

I am introduced as KD Baracus, and walk around saying ‘Pity the fool!’ with a dozen gold chains around my neck.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 19, 2022 8:21 pm

Victoria’s intrepid constabulary working hand in glove with the Hunchback, Queen Skank Patten and the ABC to skew the election:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-19/victorian-daniel-andrews-catherine-cumming-threats/101675162

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 8:22 pm

Assecondo questo sentimento, Makkini!*

Translation:

My much loved Mankini is tops!

Just as I suspected. Robin to Doomlord’s Batman. 😀

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 8:23 pm

Calli:

Is everyone drinking early today? You all sound a bit snarky.

Actually I’m quite good.
Limit of 6 cans XXXX bitter because it’s good for you.
I’ll go out and light the backyard fire in a little while if the young mate next door has taken his hi viz off the line – it being Saturday and all. See how many satellites are up.

MatrixTransform
November 19, 2022 8:23 pm

I’m now referring to JC as “Shantaram”

because it’s a shit-read?

or because it should be binned?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 8:24 pm

Also, apologies to anyone like dover or Winston who was slighted by my “blue type” reference.
But not you, Zipster.
After following your link to that ghastly TAG Heuer, my feeds are now flooded with effing watches with the colour scheme of bonboniere sugared almonds and the composition of liquorice allsorts…. and now the wifey reckons she might be getting a watch for christmas.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 8:25 pm

Carpe:

I farted, ate a cheese& garlic pizza and had a beer

Not all at once, for Gods sake man.
Sequentially please, a bit of bloody decorum if you don’t mind!

Rabz
November 19, 2022 8:28 pm

Robin to Doomlord’s Batman

I am not a #twominuteman, I tells ya!

calli
calli
November 19, 2022 8:35 pm

I’m afraid The Beloved just got me, Winston. No bride price, except his vow. That was back in the days when a man’s word was his bond.

I picked the bride price up in the Goroka market. It’s rather fine and must have been valuable.

In PNG, the groom pays the “bride price” not the bride’s father.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 8:40 pm

Sorry Cats, but this just has to be re-examined.

The Groundhog Guy – looking like a creature struggling vainly to come to terms with its ultimately pointless existence on this planet (presumably after reading some of the works of Friedrich Nyeechee).

However, look also at the personages surrounding him – the two men (if they could be dignified with such an appellation) in particular.

Their sad empty faces are projecting an indisputable statement of the bleeding obvious: “This lacklustre imbecile is herding us to electoral oblivion, again.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 19, 2022 8:44 pm

“This lacklustre imbecile is herding us to electoral oblivion, again.”

… aaaaaaaand loving it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 19, 2022 8:48 pm

One of the highlights of the last Victoriastan electoral TV coverage was watching some Lieboral watching his previously safe seat go down the toilet. It was better than YouTube car crashes.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 8:53 pm

Flungduk:
– hated ‘tech assists’ when I was an anaesthetist – I preferred to trust what I could see/feel rather than what the monitors told me.
Must have been 89/90 – I came back from lunch to see a few of the team rigging up a new IV for my MI day 3 patient. He’s sitting up in bed and looking a bit worried.
We used to keep post infarct patients a bit dry so this was unusual. BP on the monitor was about 75/45 with mean arterial (sort of an average without getting technical) at 55mmHg. OK, it’s low but not catastrophically low IYGWIM.
So of course do a manual BP check – much better. The automatic cuff had slipped down his arm and was reading what it was reading.
Nothing to worry about, his BP came up with the replacement and a lesson on ‘look at at the patient – not the numbers. Don’t treat the numbers – treat the patient.’
I loved nursing at that level – a bit like NCO in the Army – let the docs worry about the big stuff, we just carry out the orders.
And make coffee. and grumble.
🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 19, 2022 8:55 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 19, 2022 at 8:18 pm
Clearly, in its current form the Libs are not a conservative party.
No, it’s a Liberal Party, the clue is in the name.

Richard Cranium

Is the Classical Liberal or the American “small l” liberal (so- called “progressive”) sense? If the latter, it has no relationship to the party founded by Menzies.

But you knew that. Didn’t you?

min
min
November 19, 2022 8:56 pm

John Pesutto was expected to take over leadership of LNP after last election but got knocked out but 165 votes in preferences after getting many more primary . I know John he is very even handed used to appear on ABC with a Labor woman . My concern is not enough coglioni , a bit of mongrel needed these days I think . You won’t beat Danny Boy by being nice you have to play them at their own game.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 9:00 pm

Four Corners just finished, is Grace Tobin the same chick as Grace Tame?
Just channel surfing and ‘Tobin’ was interviewing an Aboriginal woman

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 9:02 pm

Rabz, I realize that the ABC picks photos for effect, but that is a very winceworthy photo. The guy on the LHS is not looking charitable about the Guy. Nor the lady on the RHS. The whole thing is like Michelangelo had carved a statue and wrote “Loser” on the plinth in Times Roman.

Btw is he Ukrainian by any chance? With a long lost brother?

Rabz
November 19, 2022 9:03 pm

One of the highlights of the last Victoriastan electoral TV coverage was watching some Lieboral watching his previously safe seat go down the toilet. It was better than YouTube car crashes.

Bear – that’s the sort of televisual feast that makes life worth living. 🙂

For one of the great political takedowns of all time, it’s still almost impossible to surpass areff’s mighty denunciation of the victorian gliberals following the righteous punting of Denny Naptime and his somnambulists in 2014, which gifted us the cult of dan the grotesque deformed jug eared imbecile creature, man.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 19, 2022 9:04 pm

Well you do have to make sure the sensors are where they are meant to be so they measure what you intend them to measure.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 9:10 pm

areff, from Rabz’ link – there’s much more:

Australia may never have seen such a bunch of feckless and incompetent losers as Victoria’s Liberal Party.

Preach it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 9:12 pm

Is the Classical Liberal or the American “small l” liberal (so- called “progressive”) sense?
huh?
SpongeBob:
get holda va Dictionary.
Look up: Liberal [adj]
Then:
look up conservative [adj]
This may come as a surprise, but the words aren’t synonyms.
As a matter of fact, there’s more distance between Liberal and Conservative than there is between Labor Party and Fascism.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 9:12 pm

That fine Ron Howard fillum Parenthood is screening.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 19, 2022 9:14 pm

Poms now 8/189.

The whining at present is like a 97 Fairlane in second. Give it a minute.

Roger
Roger
November 19, 2022 9:15 pm

Btw is he Ukrainian by any chance? With a long lost brother?

Ukrainian grandparents on mother’s side, I believe.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 9:16 pm

Australia may never have seen such a bunch of feckless and incompetent losers as Victoria’s Liberal Party.

Uh huh.
Andrews must be in trouble, the ALP shills are out in force tonight.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 9:17 pm

KD – there are so many gems in that piece, it is a must read. On a cautionary note, it also includes a pointed reference to the events that resulted in a young woman’s utterly avoidable slaying, brought about by the cowardice, lenience and staggering stupidity of both labore and the gliberals.

In any just world, areff’s piece would have won the most prestigious award for truth telling in public reportage.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 9:22 pm

the ALP shills

Ha ha ha, eddles.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 19, 2022 9:23 pm

More meaningless cricket. It must be Summer. If only someone told the agency formerly known as the BOM. Had my beanie on all yesterday and dug out another blanket for the bed. Should never complain about the lack of heat in Perf cause you know it will bite you on the bum.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 9:24 pm

Ha ha ha, eddles.
Yeah, because it’s the truth.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 19, 2022 9:29 pm

Rabz those are girls, the others are women. Big difference.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 9:33 pm

There was always a lot of good cricket played besides first class matches.

What went wrong was that Packer owned a TV Network and the Fraser Government allowed Cricket to be classed as Entertainment, cutting programming costs enormously.
So, whereas once the top players played in benefit matches for retired players and toured the State, now they’re on the Cricket Plantation, playing meaningless matches and staying around long past their best.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 9:34 pm

Just my opinion, but I can’t see any ALP shills tonight.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 19, 2022 9:36 pm

Less than seven days remaining for the Vikdanistani Gliberals to place a few small dry twigs in the cogs of the Urnfuhrer‘s war machine?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 9:37 pm

Ukrainian grandparents on mother’s side, I believe.

Roger…really? Matthew Guy has Ukrainian heritage? They look like brothers, or at least cousins. Creepy resemblance, especially if you look at more photos.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 9:44 pm

Interesting photo of Starcy bowling.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 9:45 pm

Just my opinion, but I can’t see any ALP shills tonight.
Ha ha, you’ve got a future in stand up, that’s for sure.

Winston Smith
November 19, 2022 9:49 pm

Old Ozzie:
Thanks for the trains SBS thingy – I just watched the French one, good stuff.
Yes the Red Ball Express certainly got lots of the media attention, while the railways did most of the work.

Razey
Razey
November 19, 2022 9:50 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 19, 2022 at 9:45 pm
Just my opinion, but I can’t see any ALP shills tonight.
Ha ha, you’ve got a future in stand up, that’s for sure.

I dont think anyone is shilling for any of them. They have all sold us to the New World Order WEF Overlords. We are entering a new dark age.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 19, 2022 9:52 pm

Richard Cranium

I didn’t ask you for a peroration on the words “liberal” and “conservative”. I asked in what sense you used the word “liberal”. Don’t you know what you mean when you use a word?

Rabz
November 19, 2022 9:52 pm

BoN – apologies – I missed your comment. That photo of Groundhog Guy is in many ways, j’ism as it sprayed, indiscriminately, everywhere.

It’s actually a masterpiece if for no other reason than it “captures a moment” and a very regrettable one at that.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 9:55 pm

Trumpy taking on water in 2024 bid.
Zero Hedge

Rabz
November 19, 2022 9:57 pm

I can’t see any ALP shills tonight

Eddles, shortly before he’s dragged off to bed in the insane asylum by the men in white coats:

“They’re everywhere! labore shills everywhere, I tells ya!

bons
bons
November 19, 2022 10:01 pm

I imagine women will do well in F1. It won’t be a question of skills that will be a problem but rather how to fund the equal pay and separate tours that theyvwill demand, as well as how to accommodate the constant barrages of demands for rule changes, and how to find engineers after the first few are accused of every crime inherent to the male gender.
My lady is a cycling fanatic. I enjoy needling her by asking why there are separate M/F events when the equipment is identical in size and technology, women have lower body mass to drag around and being smaller, suffer less from wind drag.
The response. “It is more difficult and time consuming for women to take ‘comfort stops’”.
She should work for Dan Andrews.

Zipster
November 19, 2022 10:03 pm

After following your link to that ghastly TAG Heuer, my feeds are now flooded with effing watches with the colour scheme of bonboniere sugared almonds and the composition of liquorice allsorts…. and now the wifey reckons she might be getting a watch for christmas.

you think you got problems, goolag is now hitting me with ukrainian dating sites

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 10:05 pm

I dont think anyone is shilling for any of them. They have all sold us to the New World Order WEF Overlords. We are entering a new dark age.
Oh yeah?
The ol’ Pox on both their Houses routine, eh?
I’ve been reading this blog since 2010.
During that time, there have been 5 Federal Elections, 4 Qld Elections, 3 NSW Elections, 3 Victorian Elections, 4 South Australian Elections, 4 Tasmania Elections and 3 W.A. Elections.
And in the lead up to all those elections, a number of commenters always
find some reason to bag the Liberal Party for not being Conservative enough and declare they’ll be placing their vote elsewhere.
Same happens on Guardian Australia comments, but at least they’re honest about never being Liberal voters.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 10:06 pm

Err yes Eddles, that’s exactly what happened.

$200 to play a test match vs million dollar per year, multi year contracts, three forms of the game and an international market for private clubs and counties.

Brett Lee is the most oppressed cricketer of all. Paying cricketers like movie stars was simply oppressive you nong.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 10:07 pm

Funnily enough…

The Liberal Party are also ALP shills.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 10:14 pm

Ranga – when does a goil become a woman?

Rabz
November 19, 2022 10:14 pm

When she looks like one or her age decrees she is one?

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 10:18 pm

I’ve been commenting on this blog for less than a year, after Doomlord closed his.
Countless times have people here said Stupid Fucking Liberals. At the same time, denouncing Laybor Party shenanigans.
Ed, just fuck off and smell the coffee every now and then and not antagonise.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 10:20 pm

Rabz, you would know better.

Zipster
November 19, 2022 10:21 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 19, 2022 10:23 pm

I imagine women will do well in F1.

No Bons. In production car racing there’re lady drivers here in Oz. Which is good, and I recall they do pretty well, although I don’t follow the sport really. But F1 is seriously physical with precise control in fluctuating G forces of strike fighter level of intensity. The male physiological edge will be essential to the top level.

Amused by this from Daniel Greenfield today:

This Weird Transgender Trick Can Take You From 72nd to 1st (18 Nov)

He has wonderful dry humour!

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 10:25 pm

The Test side was the elite, but there were always another 50 players ready to take their spots, and many of those 50 got their chance in 1977/78 and 78/79.
Bottom line:
The players bargaining position was poor, so the Board could treat them like serfs.
The problems dated back to 1912, when the Board took over management of the Ashes Tour.
Prior to that, the players had appointed their own manager and split the profits.
Adjusting for the Media Rights, the players are still getting the short end of the stick, they’re worked harder than sled dogs, and if an unwanted player doesn’t go quietly, there’ll be a Media Dump, as happened with Paino.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 10:26 pm

But F1 is seriously physical

Did Nigel Mansell have an advantage with his epic mid anterior torso inertia device?

Rabz
November 19, 2022 10:27 pm

Wally Dalí – that ghastly TAG Heuer

Wallee, I’m not having it. TAGs are just awesome. I’ve expounded on this fact on many previous occasions. Their pedigree is indisputable.

Having said that, there are others on this blogue (including close friends o’ mine) who’ve been known to express their fondness for uglee clunkee timepieces I would not be seen dead in.

Impartial judgement on personal taste (or the complete lack of it) remains in the eye of a random observer, one would hope.

cohenite
November 19, 2022 10:28 pm

The reinstate Trump poll on Twitter down from 80% in favour to 52% with 9,116,197 votes and 13 hours left:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
November 19, 2022 10:28 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
November 19, 2022 at 9:10 pm
areff, from Rabz’ link – there’s much more:

Australia may never have seen such a bunch of feckless and incompetent losers as Victoria’s Liberal Party.

I see your Victorian Liberal Party and raise you a Qld LNP opposition. At least we all know who the Vic opposition leader is.

In case you are curious, the Qld LNP leader is David Crisafulli. At least I think he is this week.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 10:30 pm

Countless times have people here said Stupid Fucking Liberals
A few people, always the same people.
At the same time, denouncing Laybor Party shenanigans.
So what?
They can hardly announce Labor Party successes, there haven’t been any.
Keep in mind, Dumbo, any publicity is good publicity, from the ALP point of view.

Cassie of Sydney
November 19, 2022 10:30 pm

Vic plod working full-time as Danny boy’s personal paramilitary enforcers.

Police investigate ‘red mist’ comments by state MP

Victoria Police are investigating comments by independent state MP Catherine Cumming about Premier Daniel Andrews at a “freedom” protest on Saturday afternoon.

Ms Cumming, an independent MLC for the Western Metropolitan Region, took to the steps of Flinders Street Station last Sunday in front of dozens of protesters where she was filmed making what appeared to be threatening comments about the Premier, the Herald Sun reported.

“I joined the Angry Victorian Party for one reason, to make Daniel Andrews turn into red mist,” Ms Cumming said. “In the army we would call it pink mist but I want him into red mist.
“Give anyone here in the army a job to blow someone up and they will,” she said, followed by cheers, screams and claps from protesters.

“Red mist” is a military term that refers to the blood of a victim targeted by a sniper.

A video of the incident which was posted to Twitter has since received more than 62,000 views.

A Victoria Police spokesperson said police would investigate, following reports it had received.

Real Deal
Real Deal
November 19, 2022 10:33 pm

Sorry, Dover. Accidentally reported Min at 8.56.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 10:35 pm

Didn’t some dude get away with saying Jeff Kennett must die years ago?

Hmmmm….

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 10:36 pm

Police investigate ‘red mist’ comments by state MP

Victoria Police are investigating comments by independent state MP Catherine Cumming about Premier Daniel Andrews at a “freedom” protest on Saturday afternoon.
Why would a supposedly sensible person make comments like that in public?
Unless she’s been put up to it by Labor Party operatives.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 10:38 pm

Miss Maggie Dodgers in the twenty first and a half century, illustrating why collectivists are cool and consoivatives aren’t (again).

Want Want
That’s where I am (featuring the Byrne)

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 10:39 pm

Didn’t some dude get away with saying Jeff Kennett must die years ago?
Yeah.
Some brain damaged old ratbag, not an Independent Member of Parliament speaking to a large crowd.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 10:40 pm

Labour Pardee operatives are not subtle.

“Comancheros MC – Australia” and “CMFEU” are emblazoned as gang colours.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 19, 2022 10:41 pm

Women are interesting, girls are not.

Indolent
Indolent
November 19, 2022 10:42 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Man eviscerated as a ‘racist, misogynistic, xenophobic Trump supporter’ at his FUNERAL is billionaire auto loans magnate Donald Foss – whose ranting ‘black supremacist’ daughter attends a $57k-a-year school and grew up in a $7.3m mansion

A source close to the Foss family told DailyMail.com: ‘She didn’t lack for anything. I don’t understand where it is coming from; maybe it is teenage rebellion because it is not coming from her mom’

Yes, I wonder.

Indolent
Indolent
November 19, 2022 10:44 pm
Cassie of Sydney
November 19, 2022 10:44 pm

Just remember that Dan’s personal private paramilitary goons have never bothered tracking down the two who attacked Andrew Bolt in broad daylight, whilst Bolt was on his way to launch a book for Steve Kates.

Here it is again, in broad daylight in early 2017…

https://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+bolt+attacked&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-gbAU935AU935&oq=andrew+bolt+attacked&aqs=chrome..69i57.6413j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:19cc44a7,vid:anUyzZzz4Q0

And the reaction from progressive left scum, they thought the attack on Bolt was a hoot!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 19, 2022 10:47 pm

Knobs on watches are like tattoos on women.
Any more than one, in a functional location to the side of the main presentation, is a serious danger sign.

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 10:48 pm

Just remember that Dan’s personal private paramilitary goons have never bothered tracking down the two who attacked Andrew Bolt in broad daylight, whilst Bolt was on his way to launch a book for Steve Kates.

Hey. Punch a Nazi, no, munter!?

Rabz
November 19, 2022 10:49 pm

Women are interesting, girls are not

I’ve known some interesting goils in my time on this planet. Although nowadays, being a dinosaur, I do prefer the company of womanages.

Miss Emily will be forty in about eight weeks. I’ve never found her so desirable or alluring as she is now.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 19, 2022 10:52 pm

Vic plod working full-time as Danny boy’s personal paramilitary enforcers.

I know it will never happen, but can anyone imagine the clenched rectums if an incoming Liberal Government, in Victoria, announced a Royal Commission into the role of Victorian Police during the Andrews reign of terror?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 10:52 pm

Attacked Andrew Bolt?
Gimme a break.
They were both weeds, but Bolt still launched into one of them.
I’m a few years older than Bolt, but I wouldna even bothered backhanding either of them, that’s how weak they were.
Suspicion:
It was a Setup, Andrew Bolt is a spook.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 19, 2022 10:57 pm

Matty Guy has played it like a Stradivarius.
Attacking Andrews as a person is a dead loss, the voters don’t like it, as was proved in numerous Qld Elections where the ALP targeted Bjelke-Joh and got beat every time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 19, 2022 11:00 pm

It was a Setup, Andrew Bolt is a spook.

Grogs, do you look under your bed each night, checking for spooks and flamers?

Oh, and what color is the boat shed, at Hereford?

Dot
Dot
November 19, 2022 11:00 pm

Matty Guy has played it like a Stradivarius.

This is a marker!

Rabz
November 19, 2022 11:03 pm

eddles, you magnificent Lithuanian bastard – do not go a changin’ …

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 11:04 pm

Cassie, Ed approves physical attacks on his opponents. Bit like Monty.

Jorge
Jorge
November 19, 2022 11:04 pm

Winston Smith says:
November 19, 2022 at 8:02 pm
Jorge:
This place?

Aye, Winston. That’s the one.

While we there a Filipino lady was offloading a bracelet and necklace. They were very careful in their calculation of purity, but all seemed open and transparent and carefully explained.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 11:11 pm

BB – eddles is largely benign – he wouldn’t advocate physical attacks on his opponents, existing in an insane asylum as he does.

So get up and get down, I tells ya! 🙂

Indolent
Indolent
November 19, 2022 11:11 pm
rickw
rickw
November 19, 2022 11:18 pm

can anyone imagine the clenched rectums if an incoming Liberal Government, in Victoria, announced a Royal Commission into the role of Victorian Police during the Andrews reign of terror?

Imagine the ultra clenched rectums if Victoria reintroduced capital punishment to specifically deal with Andrews.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 11:21 pm

The Rent a’ Riffers, ’82

Pop perfection – “they’ll fall to ruin one day, for making us part … “

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 19, 2022 11:24 pm

Not sure there’s a more beautiful voice
https://youtu.be/iFx-5PGLgb4

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 19, 2022 11:24 pm

Imagine the ultra clenched rectums if Victoria reintroduced capital punishment to specifically deal with Andrews.

Isn’t there a serviceable set of gallows in Old Melbourne Gaol? Enough room for a decent crowd, and the popcorn concession would make a fortune!

rickw
rickw
November 19, 2022 11:28 pm

Police investigating independent MP making threats against Daniel Andrews at Melbourne rally

Almost certainly resonates with voters. Apart from a few Dan Lovers who hasn’t publicly stated their desire for Dickhead Dan’s demise?

Gabor
Gabor
November 19, 2022 11:28 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
November 19, 2022 at 11:00 pm

It was a Setup, Andrew Bolt is a spook.

Grogs, do you look under your bed each night, checking for spooks and flamers?

Oh, and what color is the boat shed, at Hereford?

Nah, he cut off the bed legs, so no spooks will fit under.

Jorge
Jorge
November 19, 2022 11:28 pm

Kath Andrews would be in pole position for Women’s F1.

Rabz
November 19, 2022 11:32 pm

rick – FFS, you’d just go “extrajudicial” were such an opportunity to arise.

Having said that, my list is long and puts Arya Stark’s to shame.

Memory like an elephant.

rickw
rickw
November 19, 2022 11:34 pm

Wow, kicking France in the nuts with full force:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YOfqOo6eY

Rabz
November 19, 2022 11:39 pm

Everything’s gone green – epic pop …

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