The Rector’s Garden – Queen of the Lilies, John Atkinson Grimshaw, 1877
1,660 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 3 Dec 2022”
Aggrieved sexual assault complainants are nothing new in the criminal justice system. There would be a couple of them in any given law reform commission at any point in time.
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You’d want to run the focus group numbers very carefully. I think the Breakfast TV crew would be pretty pissed. I don’t think Kochie would wear it.
I think the internal dynamics in the Labor caucus would win out.
And I might even watch if it meant Penny Wong v. Kochie on morning TV! 😀
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You can never get ‘100% identical conditions’ for any medical study since no one individual is identical to any other
Bingo!.
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JC, I’ve never understood this argument of yours. You can never get ‘100% identical conditions’ for any medical study since no one individual is identical to any other, nor can you control their environment so that it is also identical for every test subject.
Try a little harder then.
You can mess around with chemicals in a test tube, create the exact same compound and then feed it to a large number of people in double blind studies.
How would you even get close to that sort of experiment with mask wearing?
I actually think your reaching for an counter-argument because the idea that masks might do little to nothing appears so counter-intuitive.
No I’m not. I’m saying that with some things we have to go with hunches because an experiment testing for falsification is impossible at times. It can’t be done.
Hallward, won’t answer as he’s gone flying model airplanes today. Would you suggest it would be a advisable to conduct surgery without masking up?
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I no longer have a copy of Kings in Grass Castles, but if memory serves me correctly the drove to the Kimberley took in excess of a year.
The standout incident for me was when they were stopped in the Barkley due to a shortage of horses and were being felled by malaria, one of the brothers rode back 1,000 miles to purchase fresh horses.
How on earth did they navigate?
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Penny Wong v. Kochie
An old man with grey hair v an old man with no hair. It might rate. Let’s see what the sales guys think. In those inflatable fat man suits?
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When you truly believe in the Big Lie, everything else becomes easy. You can even support fascism, because you believe that your coup is only overturning the other side’s fascism… even though that’s a lie too.
Trump is still ahead of DeSantis by ten points or more. The Establishment is pumping hard to shift the numbers, but the base remains with TFG for the moment.
This is not the surgical study I was looking for but for hospitals generally.
The masks don’t protect the wearer and surgically can only ever prevent bacterial loads. Viruses are too small, plus only the better masks work at all.
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monty
WTF are you babbling about?
You are just as bad as the Q Tards some days.
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Dot
That’s a different type of study. Hallward was suggesting masks are totally useless.
I don’t believe we’re technically advanced enough to be able to make a claim about masks and I’m also pretty sure that if I looked hard enough I would find a study with a counterclaim.
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I was referencing the previous thread of convo with cohenite, who has swallowed the Big Lie completely. He is a simple man who finds comfort in believing that life is a fight between Good and Evil with him (of course) on the side of Good, meaning that all that is not on his side is Evil. Plus lots of dick references, but that’s a separate neurosis.
Try a little harder then.
You can mess around with chemicals in a test tube, create the exact same compound and then feed it to a large number of people in double blind studies.
How would you even get close to that sort of experiment with mask wearing?
Aren’t they wearing the same, manufactured mask in the study? If so, isn’t that the same as the ‘exact same compound being feed’ to them in a double blind study?
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Even is they ònly prevent bacterial loads why isn’t that enough reason for the doc to use them?
the Big Lie
Is that the one the Time magazine article outlined about the ‘fortification’ of the 2020 election?
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If only you had showed such dedication at school.
I did. It figures you’d bring up school being a dickless leftie and lefties are united in their special love of kiddies.
Trump now realises the extent of corruption in the system. Being a courageous sort of guy he’ll keep battering away trying to rescue the country and system he admires. I personally think it’s beyond redemption but I repeat Trump is being specific about election corruption and the lack of remedy. He’s not looking to overturn the system. The dickless kiddie lovers already know the system is gone.
Head prefect, I posted an analysis of the dinner Trump had with those 2 pests: he was set up; and this is one of the great man’s weaknesses: he’s too trusting.
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According to Rowan Dean last night, the MacDonalds cattle drive from Goulburn to the Kimberly took three years. Hope this helps the questioners.
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Aren’t they wearing the same, manufactured mask in the study? If so, isn’t that the same as the ‘exact same compound being feed’ to them in a double blind study?
No, it’s not. How would you conduct such a study, in the exact same room, with the exact same air flow, at the exact same temp with the exact same people with the exact same health conditions at the exact same distance etc, etc. ?
It can’t be falsified.
Near enough is not good enough.
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Is that the one the Time magazine article outlined about the ‘fortification’ of the 2020 election?
Those 60+ lawsuits that the Trump teams lost were won by someone. You don’t hear about those lawyers much, do you? Patriots all.
He’s not looking to overturn the system.
He wouldn’t mind if someone overturned it for his benefit though, hint hint.
Pity for him that the ringleaders of his insurrection are now rotting in gaol.
Welcome to the morning mUnty rakefest.
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Internet has gone down all across Canberra and nearby NSW, by the looks of it.
Ed, is that you?
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I am having a texting chat with a friend about Musk and what just happened with Apple.
Me Quoting an except.
“Elon Musk said Apple has “fully resumed” advertising on Twitter, further de-escalating tensions between the two.”
Pal
It is what happens if a street dog meets a poodle. Musk said – OK – if you do that I will continue to get the congress to talk about you and China – Tiktok and where the phones come from. At that point the battle was lost.
He’s right.
Musk has enormous power done right and smart.
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How on earth did they navigate?
They followed the songlines, of course!
But seriously…did they have aboriginal assistance? I seem to recall that being mentioned in the book. They would certainly have had compasses and presumably noted landmarks along the way so they could backtrack.
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Hundreds of Transport bureaucrats dined on confit salmon and beef goulash as part of a “planning and development” day at the Hyatt Regency, with thousands of dollars of public money spent on a post-event bar tab at the hotel’s rooftop bar.
An urgent investigation into the planning day – and the post-event drinks function – has now been launched following inquiries from The Daily Telegraph. The Telegraph understands that those responsible for putting on the bar tab could find their jobs on the line.
It comes after a horror year in which Sydney’s trains recorded the worst on-time running record in four years and motorists have been plagued by pothole-filled roads.
Staff from Transport for NSW’s “Customer Strategy and Engagement Branch” spent an entire day at the five-star Sydney hotel discussing what the agency had achieved, a whistleblower told The Daily Telegraph.
As part of the event, public servants were tasked with recreating the Sydney Harbour Bridge out of aluminium foil, marshmallows and dried pasta. The whistleblower said staff were told that the activity was to “activate our right brains”.
It was described as an “end of year team bonding” exercise.
About 200 people attended the staff planning day. On one estimate, the event could have cost as much as $20,000 – at $100 per head.
But seriously…did they have aboriginal assistance? I seem to recall that being mentioned in the book. They would certainly have had compasses and presumably noted landmarks along the way so they could backtrack.
I think, Bruce Pascoe said Aboriginals invented Longitude and then they gifted it to the British Navy who in turn pretended they found out how.
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You could have said your anti mask under eny circumstances at the beginning, BoN. Would have saved allot of wasted pixels.
No I’m not anti-mask, Bespoke, which I’ve already corrected you about once this morning. I am anti fake answers to scientific issues. I’ve worn masks and other PPE a great deal in laboratories and operating sites. They make sense there, when you have exposure to toxic dust or fumes (for which you need an activated carbon respirator, not just a dust mask).
Due to my profession I see it as a duty to correct antiscientific mysticism, and masking to stop a virus is exactly that. Just as there are other scientific myths prevalent these days, particularly pushed by the Left, often for financial and political gain.
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Patriots all.
I love it when dickless commies wrap themselves in virtue.
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Why are some tweets on the 2020 election being corrupt still being labelled by twaddle as misleading?
No, it’s not. How would you conduct such a study, in the exact same room, with the exact same air flow, at the exact same temp with the exact same people with the exact same health conditions at the exact same distance etc, etc. ?
Hang on, why do you require this level of identity across all relevant variables but not in respect of pharmaceutical studies? Are subjects in these trials required to have the ‘exact same health conditions’, living conditions, etc? Further, if their efficacy depended upon this sort of strict control then their usage generally would be pointless because the conditions for their efficacy would be impossible to practically maintain.
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You’re right JC, Musk does have great power. He doesn’t appear to be foolish with it either. He seems to me he’s got that much on his mind with things we’ve never seen before or done differently that he has no time to meddle.
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Monty – You are projecting yet again. Fascism is a left-wing political ideology. Anyone with a slightest knowledge of history knows that. Oh and there’s no big lie that the Left will not tell, like CAGW.
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If you are after clarity then refrain from comments like this, BoN.
Also if you wear a damp mask you have a really good breeding ground for bacteria right in front of your nose. Which means if I had a choice between wearing a mask or a magic amulet I’d choose the amulet.
Amulet?
Father Nurgle considers these afflictions as blessings.
Who had the guns munty? Try looking up insurrection in the dictionary dickless.
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Eyrie says: December 5, 2022 at 9:42 am
Might actually take a substantial fraction of a year. How fast do cattle move on a drive?
About Ten miles per day.
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Bespoke – In what way is that statement not true for this application? Make sure you address the context in the comment, ie not just that single paragraph from it.
When I am doing hazardous tasks I do not wear PPE all day. I take it off to go to lunch, or to work on the computer. I wear it when it makes sense to do so. It does not make sense to wear a mask to prevent infection by a virus. That is totally obvious to anyone who knows chemistry and SI units. I said this probably in March 2020 and the proliferation of papers on the subject have been exactly as I said – like the one on N95s I linked today.
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Hundreds of Transport bureaucrats dined on confit salmon and beef goulash as part of a “planning and development” day at the Hyatt Regency, with thousands of dollars of public money spent on a post-event bar tab at the hotel’s rooftop bar.
No! They’re all dedicated public servants who accept a modest salary in exchange for job security! They’re also the best of the best!
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Those 60+ lawsuits that the Trump teams lost…
This line is always trotted out by midwits – its actually a very good indicator of midwittery – but when asked how many of these were actually tried before the court on the merits as opposed to dismissed by appeals to standing, laches, or the like, its crickets.
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I think, Bruce Pascoe said Aboriginals invented Longitude and then they gifted it to the British Navy who in turn pretended they found out how.
I’ll grant them this, like the bushmen of the Kalahari they were good navigators who kne wthe paths of least resistance through the landscape.
Most of our highways and the old stock routes follow indigenous tracks.
Without maps & writing the indigenous preserved this knowledge and passed it on through their song cycles and other means. That’s what Pascoe should be researching and writing about but he doesn’t have the knowledge because much of it that pertained to the eastern side of the continent has been lost and he’s not aboriginal in any case.
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Jorgesays: December 5, 2022 at 9:39 am
That cattle drive from NSW to the Kimberley: what time of year and the route taken ? Presumably head north then swing left across the top end. Water must have been the big consideration.
How long? As Pogria says above, McDonalds took Three years, Duracks the same. Nat Buchanan’s big effort was something similar.
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“Customer Strategy and Engagement Branch”
Ticket inspectors?
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2nd week in December and most ALPBC luvvies are disappearing. The B team EPs take charge and a few non speed dial “experts” make it to air. Not for long.
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Knuckle Dragger:
When the cash goes – and the Chiko Roll Champion of 2022 is stupid enough to spend it on said fairweather friends and other ephemera – she’ll be living under a bridge handing out wristies for food until the next chick journalistician pens a sad story about the patriarchy failing her, yet again.
She’s worked hard and sacrificed a lot to build this future for herself.
I hope she enjoys it.
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Kings in Grass Castles. There’s an account of very thirsty cattle who could smell water coming down from the north. They charged into the river with half the mob drowning. Up in Queensland somewhere.
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Doesn’t Pascoe say the locals invented flight?
Actually, watching a two part series on Harry Houdini at present. He was a big fan of early aircraft and actually owned one, a Voisin. He came to Australia at one stage and was said by many to have made the first flight in Oz in a powered aircraft, although some say he was actually third.
Interesting bloke. He used to invite people to punch him in the stomach to show how strong he was.
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Bespoke – I’ll add with breeding bacteria there is a time axis involved also. Under good conditions bacteria may replicate every 20 minutes or so. Therefore wearing a new mask for an hour isn’t going to dramatically raise the chance of a bacterial infection, but wearing it all day is a recipe for exponential growth.
No one has said that people should change masks every hour. They haven’t said that because there’s a limit to public patience, and that is over it – just as having a booster four times a year is beyond it, despite that being what the antibody blood sample data saying in the Danish and Israeli megastudies.
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Sigh! If you’re frusted at a laymen asking questions that’s not dazzled by jargon and credentials go find a bigger pond, BoN.
Or you could try to be more consistent.
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is there a single term which sums up the cycle …?
fuck-wittery
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No one has said that people should change masks every hour.
Except except everyone that uses them as part of he profession.
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The standout incident for me was when they were stopped in the Barkley due to a shortage of horses and were being felled by malaria, one of the brothers rode back 1,000 miles to purchase fresh horses.
How on earth did they navigate?
Not too hard – head generally SE till you hit the Georgina, then follow it south ?
Heading back to find the mob may have been more interesting.
You’ve got to think big picture – using large navigational end-stops like river systems.
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m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 10:49 am
Trump: I want to be installed as a fascist dictator:
Cats: See! That proves that it’s the Democrats who are fascists!
MontyPox Virus: The Democrats are Pussy Cats and Love Democracy
The Real World: MontyPox Virus is seriously deluded
‘When will the bullying end?’ asks Brittany Higgins’ partner, as he accuses the former minister of leaking privileged information.
The partner of Brittany Higgins has accused Senator Linda Reynolds of bullying and breaching confidentiality amid reports the former minister leaked Higgins’ intention to seek compensation.
News of the potential civil claim emerged on Sunday in The Sydney Morning Herald, which reported Reynolds’ claim that she had been contacted by Higgins’ lawyers earlier this year, advising of the former Liberal Party staffer’s intention to sue for sexual harassment, sex discrimination, negligence and victimisation.
Shorter: when will the cash flow start?
Segue for AG Dreyfus to stop the monstering, approve the claim, so that everyone can move on with their lives and get on with the next phase of bagging the toxic Morrison Government. Lest anyone forgets.
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Houdini made his flight at Diggers Rest, I think Plumpton Rd area, there’s a monument to it on the road, saw it years ago. Since then a monument has been erected in Diggers Rest but nowhere near where the actual flight took place.
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Bespoke – Context is your friend, the context in this case being mask usage policy as forced upon us by the CMO health nazis during the lockdown phase. No they didn’t say change masks every hour.
It was amusing seeing all those people with glorified hankies over their faces. Pretty colours but totally useless. Still plenty of people doing it now.
(Incidentally there was a warning recently about fungal lung infections being on the rise. Hmmm.)
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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
December 5, 2022 at 11:51 am
Eyrie says: December 5, 2022 at 9:42 am
Might actually take a substantial fraction of a year. How fast do cattle move on a drive?
About Ten miles per day.
Naaa..
Movement of cattle
On average, a herd could maintain a healthy weight moving about 15 miles (24 km) per day.
and
Actually, you wouldn’t want cattle to run during a cattle drive. You want them to move along at a reasonable pace, 15–20 miles a day, stick together, and graze along the way so they are as heavy as possible (or at least not underweight) when they go to market.
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
December 5, 2022 at 11:51 am
Eyrie says: December 5, 2022 at 9:42 am Might actually take a substantial fraction of a year. How fast do cattle move on a drive?
The Canning Stock Route was created by Alfred Canning, who was chosen to survey a route for Kimberley cattlemen to take their stock to the southern markets at a time when cattle tick issues prevented the use of other transport methods. From 1906 to 1907, Canning conducted a full survey from north to south and return and fund a stock route was feasible.
From 1908 to 1910 he led a team to construct the 51 wells between Halls Creek and Wiluna a distance of 1850km. Wells were constructed one day’s travel apart for a mob of cattle. Extra wells were established in southern parts of the route to accommodate the more limited range of sheep.
By 1929 the condition of the original wells and equipment had deteriorated due to fire, termites and the occasional act of vandalism to a stage where it became imprudent to drove cattle along the route. At this stage, only 5 mobs of cattle and 3 mobs of horses had actually made the trip. In 1929 the Government decided to refurbish the CSR, William Snell led a reconstruction team. He was unable to complete the refurbishments due to excessive temperatures, and so he returned to Wiluna. The Government, upon receiving complaints about the quality of Snell’s work, did not renew its contract with him. They asked A.W. Canning (now 68 years old) to complete the job – a task he accepted.
During WWII (1942 – 1944) the stock route was again refurbished, with the wells brought back into operation in anticipation of an emergency evacuation if the NW was bombed. At the end of the war, shipping of livestock resumed and slowly the stock route fell into disrepair. It continued to be used however, with droving parties completing rudimentary maintenance. It was used for another 14 droves from 1945, with the last being in 1959.
Hang on, why do you require this level of identity across all relevant variables but not in respect of pharmaceutical studies?
Dover, how do you think (excluding Covid) pharma studies are conducted?
Are subjects in these trials required to have the ‘exact same health conditions’, living conditions, etc?
They are required to have the same ailment, no? It’s not as though they will enter someone suffering gallbladder problems to undergo chemo trials to test for curing or controlling a brain cancer.
Further, if their efficacy depended upon this sort of strict control then their usage generally would be pointless because the conditions for their efficacy would be impossible to practically maintain.
Oh, so now you too want perfection. It’s not possible as we’re human.
‘When will the bullying end?’ asks Brittany Higgins’ partner, as he accuses the former minister of leaking privileged information.
Higgins goes to sue Reynolds for a bunch of stuff.. but Reynolds is the bully for letting people know about it ?
Truly clown world.
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Higgins goes to sue Reynolds for a bunch of stuff.. but Reynolds is the bully for letting people know about it ?
Truly clown world.
Did that old crow on The Project lose her job because of the way she intervened in the case?
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The big deficiency in that cattle drive was surely in economists.
After you reach your destination, then what ?
You’re a long way from your market.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 9:56 am
I have no idea how he plans on doing that, since they have the electoral system locked up and are importing millions of new voters a year. Nothing short of a military coup can now reverse the rot.
Luckily, Trump thought of that!
A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution
His solution is fascism.
Too late, with their joint operations between government and corporations, the DemonRats have already instituted fascism. Check Mussolini’s guide to fascism.
Trump will just have to settle for unconstitutional authoritarianism. Oh, sorry, the DemonRats had that before they went full fascist. He is still behind them.
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Brittany Higgins’ partner
Sad. Like being a guest on Jerry Springer.
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The vileness of the political meja class on full display. You wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire
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The Kimberley droves were remarkable, but for me the most extraordinary journey of all was Bering’s trip to Kamchepnia and eastern Siberia.
When the Tzar ordered him to wizz over to the east coast and see if Russia was joined up to North America he slipped off with a small team of 250 and arrived in Kamchepnia a year later having traveled through the Siberian winter.
Discovering that neither the Kamchepnia bears nor the locals were in any way welcoming he undertook a short three month backtrack and set up his shipyard on the Siberian Coast.
Two years later after having built two ships and suffered apalling weather he set off back to St Petersburg where he arrived a year later to tell the Tzar “no, it ain’t”.
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The discution is about the effectiveness of the mask, BoN. Not the political aspect.
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m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 10:24 am
He’s upset and incredibly angry how the election was stolen. Any normal person would be too. Even abnormal people can get angry.
Sure. But that kind of disqualifies him from the office of POTUS.
Whereas being a senile old fool with a penchant for sniffing the hair of women and pre-pubescent girls doesn’t disqualify Creepy Joe from that office?
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Brittany should dump the boyfriend, move back home and volunteer minding cats at the local shelter. I think she is not cut out for the “ You go grrrrl!” lifestyle.
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This line is always trotted out by midwits – its actually a very good indicator of midwittery – but when asked how many of these were actually tried before the court on the merits as opposed to dismissed by appeals to standing, laches, or the like, its crickets.
Ah yes, that old chestnut. Woulda gotten away with it if it weren’t for those damn laws!
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Mmyes, it’s difficult to foresee how democratic institutions can respond to Twitter applying content moderation to its own platform.
m0nty=fa
You forgot to add the words “at the behest of one side of politics”.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 10:49 am
Trump: I want to be installed as a fascist dictator:
Cats: See! That proves that it’s the Democrats who are fascists!
You really need to learn more. “Fascism” is not simply anything political with which you disagree. It has specific arrangements, which the DemonRats have already introduced to the US.
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The first box of blue masks we bought for our household had the warning that they were unsuitable for viruses. They were always spit guards at best.
The sight of breath vapour drifting out around masks on a frosty morning should have cured anyone of the thought that they were very effective.
As said above, high quality masks that are changed regularly would be of benefit but nobody did that in the general community and therefor the health advice was dishonest.
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m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 11:20 am
I was referencing the previous thread of convo with cohenite, who has swallowed the Big Lie completely. He is a simple man who finds comfort in believing that life is a fight between Good and Evil with him (of course) on the side of Good, meaning that all that is not on his side is Evil.
Mirror, mirror on the wall …
This is exactly m0nty=fa’s approach to politics.
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“You’re right JC, Musk does have great power. He doesn’t appear to be foolish with it either.”
Twitter “dump” after 5PM on a Friday – almost nothing that happens at that time ever makes the mainstream media. Friday afternon is where news stories go to die. Next dump(s) timing will tell whether that was deliberate to “bury” the story as a sap to “the enemy”, or just how things worked out. Tucker did pick it up though, and while he’s harder to ignore than most, they still managed with Bobulinski, so who knows?
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“As said above, high quality masks that are changed regularly would be of benefit but nobody did that in the general community and therefor the health advice was dishonest.”
Confirmed by observational studies for mask mandated vs non-mandated areas – almost impossible to tell which was which WRT infections or deaths.
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Pity for him that the ringleaders of his insurrection are now rotting in gaol.
m0nty=fa still babbling about the only unarmed insurrection in history.
Tell us, m0nty=fa, how many have been charged with the actual crime of “Insurrection”?
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There were two aspects to the “censorship” discussed in the Twitter Files.
First, there was the deletion of posts nominated by the Biden and Trump camps, specifically in Biden’s case it was nude pics of Hunter Biden with his nine-inch hog out. Both sides were able to get posts taken down. This should be uncontroversial – nude pics of Biden’s son are not politically relevant no matter what their provenance.
Second, there was the suppression of links to the NY Post story. You could argue that maybe Twitter should have allowed links with explanatory warnings, sure, but they are a private platform and thus retain the right. There was no government interference in the internal Twitter process, regardless, so it’s not a political scandal.
That is the entirety of the story, so far. Maybe more will come out later, but that’s about it as far as big reveals go. What a fizzer.
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Hallward
But I never claimed you were lying -that there was no study, you ridiculous clown. I maintained the study is as useless as you are and that you ought to continue flying toy planes.
It’s useless as any study which can’t be falsified.
You laughable clown, you’re on here most days claiming that the science behind gerbil warming is bullshit. It’s mostly crap because of the studies claiming it’s true cannot be falsified, yet here you are defending an ancient un-falsifiable study because it agrees with your bias. Get the fuck out of here and stop wasting our time, you buffoon.
Also, I asked you a question. Typical that you ignored it.
The masks are very effective
when used to clean the windscreen and rear view mirrors
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“nine inch hog”
Effin’ hell munter, you’re obsessed with this laughably large penis.
Remember those nine glorious inches the next time you say others are obsessed with “dick pics”.
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There were three times as many cases for ethics violations decided against the Trump 2020 lawyers than Kraken cases they won, LOL. Including Rudy Giuliani losing his licence.
Unlike, say, Grace Tame who appears to be a surly natural.
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This is another example of the link to one of Hallward’s posts doesn’t say what he thinks it says and many times suggests the opposite.
Read the conclusion.
Jorgesays:
December 5, 2022 at 12:28 pm
The big deficiency in that cattle drive was surely in economists.
After you reach your destination, then what ?
You’re a long way from your market.
Monty says.. There was no government interference in the internal Twitter process, regardless, so it’s not a political scandal.
Tabbis twitter dump. In an email dated October 24, just days before the 2020 presidential election, the “Biden team” reportedly demanded that Twitter scrub information critical of Hunter Biden from the site, according to a jaw dropping release of “The Twitter Files” by new CEO Elon Musk.
Twitter staff forwarded a request from what seemed to be the Biden campaign to delete five tweets in particular.
“More to review from the Biden team,” the message, from the first installment of the documents analyzed by journalist Matt Taibbi, read. “Handled,” was the reply.
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Hunter Biden abandoned the computer at a Delaware repair shop in April 2019. It contained messages showing that then–vice president Joe Biden was introduced by his son to a top businessman at a Ukrainian energy firm “less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company,” the Post wrote in October 2020. The correspondence contradicted Biden’s claim that he had “never spoken” to Hunter Biden “about his overseas business dealings.”
Hmmm who might be more reliable, Monty Sugarman or Matt Tabbi?
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when mUnty says stupid shit like, I dunno … Trump wants to be dictator.
its because he’s not here for argument, he’s here for self-justification
it will never matter what you say in response to mUnty
rational appeals or structured or comparative argument cannot work.
the post-structuralists don’t operate in rational space.
his universe it isn’t fact based and j’ismists would call that post-truth
the feminists and other schools have different terms for the same thing
Post-modern, Intersectionality, relativism etc
what you people are missing is the unspoken bit.
have you noticed how mUnter rarely says things like …there was no cheating
or … there was no censorship
for the most part he cannot and will not take a stand-point argument because everything is relative for these people. There are no absolutes.
what he really means and it is the scary part, is that, the cheating and censorship are apparently necessary and reasonable steps toward achieving a better shiny happy outcome.
see, progress right.
for retards like mUnty everything you say, no matter how measured, or how dismissive, or shaming, makes zero diffence.
Everything goes through his bullshit filter and gets mangled into the next brain-fart.
Somebody said earlier today that they are at war with us.
yes, they are
and they have captured education, govt at all levels, the judiciary and the media.
there’s only one final thing left for them to do
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Wow! Rake shrapnel flying everywhere this morning.
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There was no government interference in the internal Twitter process, regardless, so it’s not a political scandal.
ah … the exception.
when he does this ^^
it is outright gas-lighting.
ie your reality is wrong
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Calli:
Useful for stonemasons and benchtop cutters. Until they aren’t.
Silica?
Like the stuff you find contaminating our beaches and riversides? Are they going to demand we wear N95 masks at the beach? It’s a logical progression, I think.
Sand? This sounds like another grab for regulatory power by the Unions with an eye on the compo payouts…
I wouldn’t trust these bastards as far as I could spit a dead rat.
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Robert Sewell,
I grabbed the latest Linux Mint and got it on a USB for you.
I’m just gonna test spin it on an old PC here to make sure it works ok.
then I’ll post it to you.
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Dot says:
monty
WTF are you babbling about?
You are just as bad as the Q Tards some days.
Heh.
The Cat has it’s own Q and M.
007 eat your heart out.
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Doc Faustus:
Luckily Ms King tells us: “There are a lot of very smart people, very thoughtful people looking at the level of the price.”
Tame’s performance with SloMo was masterful. Just like a 15yo asked to clean up their room.
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The sight of breath vapour drifting out around masks on a frosty morning should have cured anyone of the thought that they were very effective.
The height of absurdity was reached when you could sit at a table in a pub with however many people were permitted and have a gabfest but you had to put your mask on to get up and go to the bar and order a drink.
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That is the entirety of the story, so far. Maybe more will come out later, but that’s about it as far as big reveals go. What a fizzer.
Ohhhh Munty, you almost got it in before it went off, never mind we can try again next year.
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The whole “thinking at the speed of light, no time even for capital letters” thing is laughable.
Doc Faustus:
Mask or no mask, if I went up to someone and coughed at them from 8” away, I would expect to be punched.
It’s surprising how many people wouldn’t have done the measurements.
8 inches is well within my comfort zone, and unless it were someone bloody attractive and of the opposite sex, they’d get a damn good shove away.
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It is the fine dust that kill woodworkers, masons and plasterers, Robert.
Can’t you feel the rock dust in your lungs?
It’ll cut down a miner when he is still young
Two years and the silicosis takes hold
And I feel like I’m dying from mining for gold
Yes, I feel like I’m dying from mining for gold
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ZK2A:
Archaeological evidence of any such battles?
Of course not.
All the Aboriginal weapons were environmentally sustainable and rotted away after the battles. Wot, do you think they were ecobarbarians?
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Hmmm who might be more reliable, Monty Sugarman or Matt Tabbi?
mole, you are an idiot. At the time, Trump was POTUS. Biden did not hold a position in the government. You really are a moron.
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Eyrie:
How about UV light of correct wavelengths? Staff can wear glasses with appropriate filters.
I’m a little surprised no enterprising refrigerator designer hasn’t developed a UV light to go on for a certain amount of time when the door is shut. In these health neurotic times, a mirror finish to the inside walls would enable adequate coverage of the contents…
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when he does this ^^
it is outright gas-lighting.
Trump was POTUS at the time, so if you’re talking government interference then you’re talking Trump corruption.
You fool.
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In these health neurotic times, …
We could stop fiddling around and just nuke the work environment.
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World class sugar hazing going on here.’
“The Dems couldnt have interfered in the election by requesting facts about Bidens shady business dealings be censored because they werent in government yet” may be the bottom of the barrel scraped through.
On those grounds then trump couldnt have led an insurrection as he was still POTUS.
Hmmm who might be more reliable, Monty Sugarman or Matt Tabbi?
mole, you are an idiot. At the time, Trump was POTUS. Biden did not hold a position in the government. You really are a moron.
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H B Bearsays:
December 5, 2022 at 1:37 pm
Tame’s performance with SloMo was masterful. Just like a 15yo asked to clean up their room.
and what did jellyback think the swivel eyed loon was going to do? Bow down and praise him for having no self awareness. Makes me wonder if anyone had ever taken him aside and said “listen Jelly, you’re fuck’in useless. A brain fart is just that”
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Dover, how do you think (excluding Covid) pharma studies are conducted?
Probably in the same manner the mask study was conducted.
They are required to have the same ailment, no? It’s not as though they will enter someone suffering gallbladder problems to undergo chemo trials to test for curing or controlling a brain cancer.
Yes, but that isn’t my point. My point was that precisely the same problems you alleged re any mask study could be applied to any pharmaceutical study if everything had to be identical.
Oh, so now you too want perfection.
Not at all, I said if mask usage were as sensitive as you suggest then they would be, aside from the most limited use cases, practically useless.
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Cohenite:
Trump now appreciates how complete the takeover by the demorat commies has been: they have infiltrated and destroyed the system. It’s now wall to wall dickless shitheads. Trump was talking about how the constitution does not envisage a remedy for the corruption by the demorats in the election. That corruption is now proved; except to dickless people.
And there you have it in a nutshell.
There’s no other way out of the mess – the Constitution has been well and truly torn up. The FF never realised just how corrupt the system could get and here we are.
Not sure just what we can do in the other Democracies.
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I’m a little surprised no enterprising refrigerator designer hasn’t developed a UV light to go on for a certain amount of time when the door is shut.
That would rather f*ck up the bouquet of the rosé, Winston
An Aussie and a Yank aid worker are helping out at the site of a volcanic eruption on a South Sea Island. The Yank says, “You from round here, buddy?” “No” he replies; “Victoria”. “What State’s that in?” asks the Yank. “Pretty much the same as this fuckin’ place”, he replies.
—
“Your Honour, I want to bring to your attention to how unfair it is for my client to be accused of theft. He arrived in New York City a week ago and barely knows his way around. What’s more, he only speaks a few words of English”. The Judge looked at the defendant and asked him, “How much English can you speak?” The defendant looked up and said, “Give me your wallet!”
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True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us.
– Socrates
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Ah yes, that old chestnut. Woulda gotten away with it if it weren’t for those damn laws!
I’m not opposed to standing or laches type arguments per se, but when they are applied in such a manner as to deny any hearing they are clearly being abused. For instance, if you denied a hearing on the ground of standing because you have not as of yet suffered any damages and asked to litigate once this occurred, and then you litigate once this occurs and then denied a hearing on the grounds of laches because you were purportedly tardy in bringing the action and should have raised this prior to having suffered damages, injustice is afoot. This is a classic ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ approach to law.
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monty, monty, monty.
(Shakes head, leaves)
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And now for some levity..
Just a reminder.. far too good to miss, from JC’s link at 5:54 am.
A new star: Alex Strenger
A couple of gems:
“Just look at who they’re letting back on to Twitter OK?
Andrew Tate, Kanye West and that Nazi journalist Savanah Hernandez..
Just look at them! They are the physical embodiment of white supremacy!”
and
“…that’s why we need to cancel Twitter! (hyperventilating x 2)..
Because a free and open internet is textbook white supremacy!
It’s worse than the Holocaust!
It’s even worse than January 6!”
World Championship trolling.. brilliant!!
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The Bill to introduce a referendum on the Voice has entered Parliament. I note, with curiosity, Schedule 11:
This provision temporarily suspends the operation of section 11 of the
Referendum Act for the period from when this amendment commences until the
end of polling day for the first general election of the members of the House of
Representatives held after its commencement.
So no money will be spent for the “yes” or “no” campaigns:
It has been over 100 years since the introduction of the official pamphlet and its
form has changed very little since 1912. It is also the only official material
provided to electors prior to a referendum. Since that time, the methods of
communication have changed significantly. In 2022, it is appropriate to ask
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whether there is a more effective way to engage and inform the Australian public
about the Constitution and proposed constitutional change.
10. Temporary suspension will ensure there is more than one way to communicate
with electors before a referendum, and allows parliamentarians to choose how,
and when to engage with their relevant constituencies.
So I ask then, why is it only a “temporary suspension” of spending money on both sides of the campaign if that style is now “outdated?”
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On those grounds then trump couldnt have led an insurrection as he was still POTUS.
The insurrection was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the POTUS-elect.
The tweets were prior to the election.
You are really, really bad at this stuff, mole. You should probably give up while you are way, way behind.
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For instance, if you denied a hearing on the ground of standing because you have not as of yet suffered any damages and asked to litigate once this occurred, and then you litigate once this occurs and then denied a hearing on the grounds of laches because you were purportedly tardy in bringing the action and should have raised this prior to having suffered damages, injustice is afoot.
This did not happen.
Sure, if camels were purple, Trump wins. Camels are not purple.
dover0beach says:
December 5, 2022 at 2:09 pm
Dover, how do you think (excluding Covid) pharma studies are conducted?
Probably in the same manner the mask study was conducted.
Okay, bullet point examples of both and describe how they are the same.
So if “pamphleting” is not old and outdated, as per Labor’s reasons for not sending all voters a pamphlet that shows “no” and “yes” sides of the Voice, I guess we won’t be receiving any promotional Labor material at election time?
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Matrix Transform:
I grabbed the latest Linux Mint and got it on a USB for you.
Excellent stuff, MT.
Ta.
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Wodger:
The height of absurdity was reached when you could sit at a table in a pub with however many people were permitted and have a gabfest but you had to put your mask on to get up and go to the bar and order a drink.
That’s if you were allowed into the pub. Which I wasn’t, and am still dirty about.
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On those grounds then trump couldnt have led an insurrection as he was still POTUS.
The insurrection was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the POTUS-elect.
One is still “the government’ up until the handover of power sugar boy.
It was a facile response to your incredibly facile “The dems didnt pressure Twitter to bury the bunter hiden story” deflection you poorly programmed turing machine.
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Yes so let’s just re-elect the mongs that inflicted this. The Hun:
A third of Melburnians say lives are “much worse” than before the pandemic.
The latest Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia poll, out on Monday, reveals that 33.1 per cent of Melburnians reported feeling much worse off – almost double the national average.
The survey, which has for the first time measured the true effects of Covid-19 on people’s lives, showed Melbourne was the hardest hit area, reporting lower satisfaction than anyone else in the state or country.
While 16.9 per cent of Australians said their lives were much worse as a result of the pandemic, 21.7 per cent of Victorians in urban areas said the same.
Young people showed a stark deterioration in mental health, while students in government schools were worse affected than those in Catholic or private schools.
Researchers say this trend would rise in coming years because this HILDA survey was carried out in 2020 – before Victoria endured an another 200 consecutive days of lockdown in 2021.
The University of Melbourne’s Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research deputy director Roger Wilkins said mental health and financial effects were magnified in Victoria.
“We had a higher rate of job loss, higher rates of people being stood down and we saw more people seeking to suspend their mortgage or rent, so we saw a bigger rise in unemployment in Victoria,” Prof Wilkins said.
“Young people disproportionately suffered from the economic effects of the lockdowns, they were more likely to lose their jobs and a much higher proportion of them experienced a deterioration in their mental health.”
As 45 per cent of Australians said their lives changed for the worse, strong household income growth continued, and median incomes rose by $4519.
The report noted that Jobkeeper, the largest welfare scheme in the nation’s history, was partially responsible for this increase.
Research fellow Dr Esperanza Vera-Toscano said the extent of the pandemic’s effects on people, particularly schoolchildren who studied remotely, would continue to emerge.
“When we do the analysis for 2021, the deterioration is going to be larger,” she said.
Taylors Hill mother Evette Hadzisavas said her family restricted their discretionary purchases during the lockdowns while Zoe, 15 and Christian, 9, studied online.
“The kids were really excited to go back to school, and this year we allowed for the bare minimum, but next year I’d like to see them improve,” she said.
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It seems a lifetime ago, but I seem to recall that the whole Brittnee wuz Raipt thing started its life as a hit piece to prove that the Liberals had (again) a problem with women, and that it was all part of a rape culture that presumably permeated the party.
Obvious nonsense only a j’ismist would believe could be sold as credible. You could wring every man in the Libs over a bucket like an old washerwoman doing the clothes and you might, just might, get a single drop of testosterone all together. They don’t even have the beta-male’s desire to become an alpha-male. I think they only get erections if there is a good story about them in the paper.
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Perhaps those Melbournibad people should get a job with Transport NSW. Daily Telegraph:
Hundreds of Transport bureaucrats dined on confit salmon and beef goulash as part of a “planning and development” day at the Hyatt Regency, with thousands of dollars of public money spent on a post-event bar tab at the hotel’s rooftop bar.
An urgent investigation into the planning day – and the post-event drinks function – has now been launched following inquiries from The Daily Telegraph. The Telegraph understands that those responsible for putting on the bar tab could find their jobs on the line.
It comes after a horror year in which Sydney’s trains recorded the worst on-time running record in four years and motorists have been plagued by pothole-filled roads.
Staff from Transport for NSW’s “Customer Strategy and Engagement Branch” spent an entire day at the five-star Sydney hotel discussing what the agency had achieved, a whistleblower told The Daily Telegraph.
As part of the event, public servants were tasked with recreating the Sydney Harbour Bridge out of aluminium foil, marshmallows and dried pasta. The whistleblower said staff were told that the activity was to “activate our right brains”.
It was described as an “end of year team bonding” exercise.
About 200 people attended the staff planning day. On one estimate, the event could have cost as much as $20,000 – at $100 per head.
Transport for NSW failed to disclose the cost.
In an email to staff, the venue – a function room at the Hyatt Regency – was described as “pretty charming with a view over Darling Harbour”.
The post-event drinks function was held at the Hyatt Regency’s Zephyr rooftop bar, with staff asked in a separate email to confirm their attendance “so we have a clearer understanding of how many people the venue will be able to accommodate”.
“It was probably money and time better spent elsewhere,” the Transport whistleblower said.
Infrastructure Minister Rob Stokes, who is the lead Minister for the Transport cluster, slammed the event as “unacceptable”.
He has demanded a please explain, vowing that there will be consequences.
“This event wasn’t appropriate. Spending taxpayers’ money on a bar tab is totally unacceptable and completely out of line with public expectations,” he told the Telegraph.
“Immediately after hearing about this incident, I directed Transport for NSW to launch an urgent investigation as to how this happened, and to inform me of what action they intend to take to hold those responsible to account.”
A Transport for NSW spokesman said the investigation will “urgently” probe “the purchase of alcohol with public funds at a post-function gathering”.
“If taxpayer funds were used to purchase alcohol, then the Department will not hesitate to take strong action.”
Bespoke:
It is the fine dust that kill woodworkers, masons and plasterers, Robert.
Yes. I understand that. I was being a little sarcastic.
Silica being inhaled has been around for years since the Romans and Greeks as stonemasons.
Beach sand also grinds down to these fine particles – not that makes any difference to an ambulance chaser or a bureaucrat looking to expand their horizons.
My point is silicosis is not the issue – it is the excuse for expansion of control in the workplace.
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Fare enough, Robert.
Walli Dali:
That would rather f*ck up the bouquet of the rosé, Winston
What sort of idiot keeps their roses in a fridge, Walli?
🙂
Oh. OK – Cadbury’s Roses.
I must admit I’ve never thought of using ‘Cadbury Roses’ & ‘bouquet’ in the same sentence…
🙂 ^2
JCsays: December 5, 2022 at 12:17 pm
Might actually take a substantial fraction of a year. How fast do cattle move on a drive?
About Ten miles per day.
Naaa..
The drove in question, Three thousand miles, should have taken 200 days.
Yet it took roughly One Thousand days.
How can this be? Could it be you don’t know what you’re talking about?
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At least the Bowen/King brainfart is starting to draw the robber barons, blinking into the day-light.
The Queensland premier will seek “adequate compensation” for any federal intervention in energy markets that hits the state’s income.
Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk will oppose any intervention that hits the profits of public-owned coal power plants, some of which are used to pay household electricity bill rebates, without offering “adequate compensation.”
Read the last sentence again: the Palacechook will “oppose any intervention that hits the profits of public-owned coal power plants”.
At the moment Kogan Creek, Tarong, and Tarong North power stations are making a motza. All owned by Palacechook; all with low-cost captive coal mines also owned by Palacechook; all selling electricity at eye-watering marginal prices set by gas.
These people are filth.
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While 16.9 per cent of Australians said their lives were much worse as a result of the pandemic, 21.7 per cent of Victorians in urban areas said the same.
Note the innumerate moron’s device of providing figures to one decimal place, to give the impression of precision, while not mentioning other important details, in order to provide true accuracy and context:
Such as: what TOTAL %age said their lives were worse (much, slightly, just, etc..).
Or, what %age did NOT say their lives were worse?
All one can conclude from this cack-filled abortion of a report is that there was a “difference ” between rural and city people.
And it certainly doesn’t explain why the sheeples voted for more of the same fuck-me-harder-daddy Government that rogered them so lovingly.
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The thesis of the Trumpeters is that their leader’s case for re-election was so weak that it would fail unless randoms on Twitter (plus James Woods) were allowed to post dick pics of Hunter Biden. If that has been allowed, Trump would have won and manna would have fallen from heaven.
I laugh in your general direction.
Sure, I don’t know, which is why I checked your assertion against two independent sources I quoted. You found to be wrong again. I checked because you’re a lying piece of shit or you’re just wrong. In either case you lie after being caught out.
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m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 2:47 pm
On those grounds then trump couldnt have led an insurrection as he was still POTUS.
The insurrection was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the POTUS-elect.
m0nty=fa
How many of the January 6 people have been charged with the crime of Insurrection?
How many have been convicted of that crime, and sentenced?
Even one as stupid as you should be able to understand the significance of these questions.
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Okay, bullet point examples of both and describe how they are the same.
Your just fending off a burden here, JC. If you want to argue that they are different, bullet point examples of both and how they are different. And not hypotheticals, I want you to investigate the methods sections of the masking paper and then any well-known pharma paper and tell me how they are different in the relevant sense.
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Mutley that’s low energy trolling, when’s your next prostate massage, seems to liven you up a bit.
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Robert Sewell says:
December 5, 2022 at 3:06 pm
My point is silicosis is not the issue – it is the excuse for expansion of control in the workplace.
Correct.
Silicosis causes symptomatic lung dysfunction in extreme cases only, such as years of breathing silicate dust in a heavily dusty, poorly ventilated mining environment, without PPE. This hasn’t been the occupational reality in Australia for 50+years.
Asbestosis is far more damaging, but again, OH&S measures dealt with limiting exposure to asbestos fibre back in the 1960s, after the problems at the Wittenoon and Barraba mines.
Given a fraction of a chance, unions will eventually succeed in killing mining in Australia.
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Your just fending off a burden here, JC.
Sure, I’m “fending off a burden” as I really can’t be bothered to go through it especially after you doubted what I said and therefore makes it incumbent on you to show why they’re the same.
If you want to argue that they are different, bullet point examples of both and how they are different. And not hypotheticals, I want you to investigate the methods sections of the masking paper and then any well-known pharma paper and tell me how they are different in the relevant sense.
Tell me, how would you even begin to devise a double blind study that you can falsify?
Dover, I said it can’t be done. You said it can, yet you want me to prove your argument – that it can be done? Surely, you’re not being serious.
dover0beach says:
December 5, 2022 at 2:09 pm
Dover, how do you think (excluding Covid) pharma studies are conducted?
Probably in the same manner the mask study was conducted.
I have pretty much lost confidence in publications in medical journals. Big Pharma appear to finance much of the research. This is but one criticism, and there have been a lot more in recent years:
Anyone want to guess what Montys screen saver/ background is?
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Still more interesting how Labor won’t fund the “yes” and “no” campaigns because letter-boxing is outdated? (S11 of the Referendum Bill’s Explanatory Memorandum states it is outdated form of communication).
But:
1) Who said anything about letter-boxing?
2) Only six years ago the Gubberment gave $15M to both sides of SSM debate. Most used it on online and TV ads – not letterboxing. Only six years ago but now “outdated?”
This tells me Labor must be shitting themselves that they are going to lose the referendum.
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This is a lawsuit worth watching.
Defamation Suit Against Fox Grows More Contentious
Lachlan Murdoch, the chief executive of the Fox Corporation, is expected to be deposed on Monday as part of a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News for amplifying bogus claims that rigged machines from Dominion Voting Systems were responsible for Donald J. Trump’s defeat in 2020.
Mr. Murdoch will be the most senior corporate figure within the Fox media empire to face questions under oath in the case so far. And his appearance before Dominion’s lawyers is a sign of how unexpectedly far and fast the lawsuit has progressed in recent weeks — and how contentious it has become.
Fox and Dominion have gone back and forth in Delaware state court since the summer in an escalating dispute over witnesses, evidence and testimony. The arguments point to the high stakes of the case, which will render a judgment on whether the most powerful conservative media outlet in the country intentionally misled its audience and helped seed one of the most pervasive lies in American politics.
Although the law leans in the media’s favor in defamation cases, Dominion has what independent observers have said is an unusually strong case. Day after day, Fox hosts and guests repeated untrue stories about Dominion’s ties to communist regimes and far-fetched theories about how its software enabled enemies of the former president to steal his votes.
“This is a very different kind of case,” said David A. Logan, dean of the Roger Williams School of Law, who has argued in favor of loosening some libel laws. “Rarely do cases turn on a weekslong pattern of inflammatory, provably false, but also oddly inconsistent statements.”
Dominion, in its quest to obtain the private communications of as many low-, mid- and high-level Fox personnel as possible, hopes to prove that people inside the network knew they were disseminating lies. Fox hopes to be able sow doubt about that by showing how its hosts pressed Trump allies for evidence they never produced and that Dominion machines were vulnerable to hacking, even if no hacking took place.
The judge, Eric M. Davis, has ruled in most instances in Dominion’s favor, allowing the voting company to expand the pool of potential evidence it can present to a jury to include text messages from the personal phones of Fox employees and the employment contracts of star hosts such as Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson, along with those of Suzanne Scott, the chief executive of Fox News Media, and her top corporate managers.
Dominion has conducted dozens of depositions with current and former network personalities, producers, business managers and executives. The people questioned come from the rungs of middle management at Fox News headquarters in Manhattan to the corner office in Century City, Los Angeles, where Mr. Murdoch oversees the Fox Corporation and its sprawling enterprise of conservative media outlets.
The fight over depositions has intensified in recent weeks as lawyers for the two companies sparred over whether Mr. Hannity and another pro-Trump host, Jeanine Pirro, should have to sit for a second round of questioning about messages that Dominion obtained from their phones as part of the discovery process. Fox lawyers have argued that the hosts should not be compelled to testify again, citing the legal protections that journalists have against being forced to reveal confidential sources.
The judge ruled that Dominion’s lawyers could question both Mr. Hannity and Ms. Pirro again but limited the scope of what they could ask. Ms. Pirro’s second deposition was late last month; Mr. Hannity’s has yet to be scheduled.
Fox has accused Dominion in court filings of making “escalating demands” for documents that are voluminous in quantity, saying it would have to hire a second litigation team to accommodate such a “crushing burden.” (The judge has largely disagreed.)
Since that time, the methods of communication have changed significantly. In 2022, it is appropriate to ask whether there is a more effective way to engage and inform the Australian public about the Constitution and proposed constitutional change.
So I ask then, why is it only a “temporary suspension” of spending money on both sides of the campaign if that style is now “outdated?”
Temporary because the WEF and renewable energy policies mean we will be back to using paper and carrier pigeons by 2025.
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The height of absurdity was reached when you could sit at a table in a pub with however many people were permitted and have a gabfest but you had to put your mask on to get up and go to the bar and order a drink.
One one occasion when in a shopping centre with my wife and daughter we were walking past a cafe that had no walls or any other barrier into the shopping centre. The people in the cafe were without masks yet those of us walking past, required masks.
This seemed to be a good ‘teaching moment’. So, I sidestepped into the cafe and removed my mask then, sidestepped back into the shopping mall and replaced my mask. Back and forth three or four times to the hilarity of my wife/daughter and bemusement of those in the cafe.
In accordance with the rules the people in the cafe were seated but it was nonetheless a demonstration of the utterly ridiculous mask rules. Not to mention the overwhelming majority of people, in any setting, were wearing surgical masks which are next to useless for reasons well known.
I had a double take to even realise the first picture was of her.
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This did not happen.
Happened in PA, for instance.
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Bernardi has a free 256-paged tome on his website called The Conservative Revolution.
Have a read a bit and looks good.
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Droving cattle has to take in a heck of a lot more than just distance. The average distance covered by cattle is actually 7-10 miles a day. You also have to take into account the seasons. You can push the cattle a bit harder in Autumn and Spring as the weather generally allows for easier travelling. In Summer you obviously don’t want to be travelling during the hottest part of the day. Most people who have never moved cattle don’t know about factoring in grazing time, watering and also the time cattle need to be off their feet to enable them to chew their cud.
You also have to be aware of poisonous plants, rough country, lack of feed and water, to name a few.
There are also designated “rest” days. You cannot push any beast relentlessly and expect it to turn up at the end of the trip in good nick.
Then there are the horses and the wagons etc. Time off had to be allowed for shoeing horses, fixing gear, hunting for the pot, and resting the horses. Droving in the 1800’s was not done with utes and caravans as they are now. Horses were critical to the success of any cattle operation in the early days. In many parts of Australia they still are. Many other things too numerous to cover.
Reading accounts of cattle drives is fine, but unless you have actually been on a few, voicing an opinion is a useless exercise.
Although travelling “the long paddock”, is a thousand times easier now than in the 1840’s, it is still fraught with many of the same problems that were faced back then.
And yes, I speak from experience.
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dover0beachsays:
December 5, 2022 at 4:01 pm
This did not happen.
Happened in PA, for instance.
Don’t spoil with mere facts the DemonRat “narrative” that m0nty=fa is so busy promulgating.
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“Mutley that’s low energy trolling, when’s your next prostate massage, seems to liven you up a bit.”
Is he a meat puppet as well?
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Elon Musk @elonmusk · 20h ·
Anything anyone says will be used against me in a court of law
The clearest sign yet that Twitter has become a publisher and not a platform?
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Nothing yet from m0nty=fa about the numbers of January 6 people convicted and sentenced for (unarmed) insurrection.
Shirley his daily DemonRat Talking Points would include a running total?
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Yep – this is what being a tyrant does to you.
I had a double take to even realise the first picture was of her.
Reminds me of the transformation of Gollum.
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and what did jellyback think the swivel eyed loon [Tame]was going to do? Bow down and praise him for having no self awareness. Makes me wonder if anyone had ever taken him aside and said “listen Jelly, you’re fuck’in useless. A brain fart is just that”
The Lieborals are like some dumb Labrador that follows you home. They deserve to be kicked.
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Indolent et al:
I had a double take to even realise the first picture was of her.
Regarding the nose wiping/face brushing video – was there ever an explanation given for this bizarre performance?
WWBGTS – (What Would Be Good To See) is compulsory drug testing on the Parliament, their staffers, and the the top echelons of the bureaucracy.
Surely if it’s good enough for us, then it should be good enough for them? Something has got to explain the quality of the decision making, implementation and advice coming from the administrators of the Nation because I’ve seen more rational policies coming from a drug fucked picnic than this.
I’ll suggest it to Our Pauline…
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JC says: December 5, 2022 at 3:20 pm
Sure, I don’t know, which is why I checked your assertion against two independent sources I quoted. You found to be wrong again. I checked because you’re a lying piece of shit or you’re just wrong. In either case you lie after being caught out.
What a stupid comment.
Name those independent sources.
You’ve never moved cattle in your life. I was doing it from before I can remember, certainly by 3yo.
I’ve moved cattle everywhere from trips from the Barkly to the Channels, to simple one-week long trips down in inside country.
I’ve never moved cattle through the long paddock. I have some fucking idea. You got anything more than “I read it online somewhere”?
Stay in your lane.
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LOL!
From the Daily Mail;
Australian expat attending the FIFA World Cup in Qatar explains the Aboriginal flag to locals: ‘They are the Palestinians of Australia’
A spectator at the World Cup has given locals a lesson on the Aboriginal flag
He compared history of Indigenous Australians to Palestinians in Middle East
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Duncanm, the virus is altitude sensitive.
Everyone knows this.
Belieb da science!
So no money will be spent for the “yes” or “no” campaigns:
Basically an admission of defeat. An Albo tick-a-box exercise for the next election.
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Clancy of the Overflow has entered the chat.
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Good grief! Ardern is Gollum!
Preciousssssssss!
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Clancy of the Overflow has entered the chat.
Do we know he are?
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where he are
FFS
And yes, I speak from experience.
Interesting post, thank you Pogria. My late uncle first “went droving” out of Alice Springs in 1947.
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Bernardi has a free 256-paged tome on his website called The Conservative Revolution.
Or you could go outside and shout at pigeons or clouds. And enjoy some fresh air and sun.
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Robert Sewell says:
December 5, 2022 at 4:26 pm
I reckon SHY would be stimulant free.
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All I see is the vision splendid. Left the dusty dirty city behind last week.
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Clancy of the Overflow has entered the chat.
A message was sent to where we’d met him years ago on the Lachlan river, & an answer came back saying “We don’t know where he are, he said he was going to Queensland”
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Sure, I’m “fending off a burden” as I really can’t be bothered to go through it especially after you doubted what I said and therefore makes it incumbent on you to show why they’re the same.
JC, the fact that I expressed any doubt doesn’t shift the burden on to me. You initially cast doubt on the efficacy of the mask study but never managed to show how a mask study is different to any other study that would have its own variables, which those engaging in the study would be aware of and would need to account for if they were significant.
Tell me, how would you even begin to devise a double blind study that you can falsify?
Dover, I said it can’t be done. You said it can, yet you want me to prove your argument – that it can be done? Surely, you’re not being serious.
I never asked you to prove my argument, I asked you to simply substantiate yours. Leaving that aside, what are you actually asking here? You argued that a host of variables made testing the efficacy of masks impossible. You based this on the argument that in order to be able to test efficacy we would have to control the parameters you mentioned. Again, it’s not clear why this is necessary if you can’t control these parameters in practice. In other words, outside of limited use cases, we want to know their efficacy when used by the general public. Nothing you’ve raised actually indicates that a study cannot test the efficacy of masks in either narrow use cases where the staff are highly trained and disciplined in their usage or at the opposite end. BTW, I’m not sure how these studies are not falsifiable in theory or practice.
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He compared history of Indigenous Australians to Palestinians in Middle East
The Australian Wars on SBS needs a bit of rejigging.
African youths meet up on St Kilda beach and a couple get stabbed, one fatally. The delights of multi cultural migration.
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Australian politicians are completely free from performance enhancing substances.
That must be obvious.
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Pogriasays:
December 5, 2022 at 4:12 pm
From memory they had a couple of properties towards the end of the run to fatten up/ get saleable the stock.
I recall one being near Northampton or Mullewa in WA.
Move stock for a few months, fatten them up or get them back in condition for the next leg of the trip.
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My late uncle first “went droving” out of Alice Springs in 1947.
There was nothing but an infrequent exchange of letters until 1968, when he turned up “Down South” – manager of a certain cattle station, married to the station governess, with family in tow.
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Droving is basically camping with cows. Not my cup of tea but good luck to others.
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So no money will be spent for the “yes” or “no” campaigns:
They can count on the likes of the ABC, the public service pinning up posters, businesses wanting to win government contracts proving that they have the right kind of thinking, virtue signalling from businesses not desperate for government contracts, small businesses like cafes wanting to avoid scenes with customers who demand everyone they meet agree with them, and HR departments filled with ‘soft-science’ graduates with the substance of an algal film but desperate to pretend their disciplines are, in their way, as rigorous and ineluctable as mechanical engineers and accountants.
Government is a colossus, and what it does not control directly it controls with a nod that everyone understands is a command beyond any hope of appeal. It just so happens that only progressives will use it so because they think that is what government is for.
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How Mainstream Media is Destroying the United States of America
From Armstrong Economics –
“It is becoming clear day by day why the mainstream media has been so against Elon Musk buying Twitter for as they say in law enforcement, there is a “Blue Code” where cops do not rat on cops and the same is true about judges. Mainstream media is so LEFT it has forgotten how to walk a straight line. They are no longer the free press – they are propaganda organizations for the takeover of our country and in the process, they will cause civil war and the collapse of Western culture. The Biden Administration clearly violated the law by telling Twitter to delete photos of Hunter smoking crack cocaine which anyone else would be in prison.
The chaos and confusion behind closed doors at Twitter in the immediate aftermath of the October 2020 surface of Hunter Biden’s Laptop from Hell, has exposed that the very top-level execs at Twitter decided to label the New York Post’s story as “hacked material” without any evidence — behind the back of then-CEO and founder Jack Dorsey. Historically, those on the LEFT have always done whatever it takes to win for their very basic philosophy is to dominate society and to shut down all resistance.”
I finally find out WHY the authorities stuck town limits on Aboriginals.
Spoiler: it wasnt to genocide them.
Heres a bit of his report for Broome.
To G. 8. Olivey, Esq., Broome, Inspector of Aborigines.
In complying with your request of reporting on the
aborigines in the Broome district, I beg to state as
follows:—
Condition.—The natives throughout the district during
the last four years have degraded, physically and morally,
to such extent that they almost became useless, except
living on the proceeds of their women earned through
prostitution, and many offcasts are now to be found in a
state of semi-starvation, if not relieved by the Aborigines
Department.
The tribal laws and customs have been anulled through
the natives coming into constant contact with Asiatics;
where in former days old men had the young women, who
supported them through hunting, to-day most women are
in the hands of the young men and boys (who by tribal
law are not entitled to them), having stolen them from
their rightful owners by brute force, leaving the old to
fossick for themselves, whilst the young men, with their
so-procured women, follow up the pearling boats or go into
Broome (where there is a great demand for them), a distance
of from 100 to 150 miles, trading their women, aged
from 10 to 40 years, to all comers for prostitution, and
thus make a living in ease and laziness.
…
Remedy.—The only way, I think, this state of affairs
could be improved is to keep the natives away from town
and creek where boats are calling for water, and prohibit
any person from cohabiting with natives, as at present the
police have no power to do anything ; and, further, it should
not be lawful for any coloured man to employ natives.
I am sure if the natives are kept away from these
harbours of debauchery they will again improve, and no
support be needed for any of them; but if no steps be
taken to amend this state of affairs, instead of relieving 31
in the district the number will increase to 100 in a very
short time, as all the offcasts will fall on the Aborigines
Department for support. The approximate number of
natives now loafing in Broome district, and mostly living
on prostitution, is as follows:—Whistler’s Creek and La
Grange Bay, 450; Broome, 300; Beagle Bay, 150; King
Sound, Cygnet Bay, 200. Out of above, 300 are young
men and boys, 150 under age and old men, and the
balance (550) women and children.
Venereal Diseases have now a solid footing, and cause
great damage. Gonorrhoea and internal gonorrhoea (the
latter most damaging to natives) and syphilis have also a
footing, with a great variety of Eastern skin diseases raging
throughout the district; and I have no doubt that venereal
will stamp the race out of existence in the course of only a
short time.
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Hans Mahncke
@HansMahncke
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We know what it would’ve been like had the shoe been on the other foot because of what happened in October 2016. Imagine if the media had given the Hunter Files only 10% of the coverage they gave the Access Hollywood tapes. Would’ve been game over for Biden.
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@JackPosobiec
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We now know:
The Hunter Biden laptop was the biggest October surprise in modern presidential history
And it was banned from the American people by US intel agencies colluding with tech and media
No doubt about it.
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There were two aspects to the “censorship” discussed in the Twitter Files.
First, there was the deletion of posts nominated by the Biden and Trump camps
Dickless lies. Trump never asked for any censorship. Rather the 2 aspects were:
Demorats lying about Trump which is positive censorship; and secondly the demorats lied about:
1 Hillary and obuma’s bugging of Trump’s Whitehouse and framing of Vice Admiral Flynn
2 The Russia Dossier
3 Russia connections with the demorats
4 Joe’s treason in using his positions, senator, VP and POTUS to sell advantage to Russians, the chunks, Ukraine and the ME
5 Joe and Hunter’s sexual perversions
6 Joe’s dementia
7 Demorat collusion with big tech
8 Hunter’s laptop
9 All lefties having no dicks
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H B Bear says: December 5, 2022 at 5:01 pm
Droving is basically camping with cows.
Um… er… ah…. erm…. um…. When does the ‘camping’ part take place?
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A few days mustering and some yard work during the school holidays was enough pastoral bliss for the year.
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What a stupid comment.
it’s not stupid at all to show what a psychopathic liar you are.
Name those independent sources.
Google them. Copy the excepts i posted and enter both in a google search.
You’ve never moved cattle in your life. I was doing it from before I can remember, certainly by 3yo.
Lol. You were moving cattle at 3 years old and owning cattle stations at 5.You dishonest grub.
I’ve moved cattle everywhere from trips from the Barkly to the Channels, to simple one-week long trips down in inside country.
So what? Both quotes suggest your 10 miles walk is either 50% or 100% below those estimates. Don’t give the lived experience routine as you know it doesn’t work
I’ve never moved cattle through the long paddock. I have some fucking idea. You got anything more than “I read it online somewhere”?
I read three comments online. Yours and the other two. They say you’re either wrong or lying as you’re 50% or 100% out. I know who I’ rather believe.
Stay in your lane
If you remained in your lane you wouldn’t be allowed to ever post here, you drunken liar.
Now fuck off and stop lying.
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H B Bear says:
December 5, 2022 at 5:01 pm
Droving is basically camping with cows.
Brave.
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Nothing short of a military coup can now reverse the rot.
Said re the US by Zipster.
I hate to be a bore on this subject, but US politics and elections have been irremediably corrupt from the get-go, and the slavering anticipation of some for a bloodbath is unseemly, to say the least, and unsavoury to boot.
The US is not Australia. Their politics operate at a much higher temperature, always have. Those who slaver for a bloodbath in the form of civil war or insurrection are just like kids who think that video games are like reality. They have no idea (and care not) about the death and maiming and general destruction – nor about what it would do to the balance of power in world politics. This is the politics of Antifa and other childish groups who just want to destroy. A lot of Marxists were keen on this kind of thing as well, especially the younger ones.
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A few days mustering and some yard work during the school holidays was enough pastoral bliss for the year.
Pre-dawn in the dairy bales making sure there was deliciousness in the troughs and then onto the shovel for the other end.
Jerseys, fortunately. Well behaved, just stay out of the way of the bulls. Horrid creatures. Then back for the afternoon shift.
Pogria,
And add dodgy bastards that you meet on the track.
Jackals.
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JC, the fact that I expressed any doubt doesn’t shift the burden on to me. You initially cast doubt on the efficacy of the mask study but never managed to show how a mask study is different to any other study that would have its own variables, which those engaging in the study would be aware of and would need to account for if they were significant.
Dover, if you have an issue with what I said, which you did, then it’s up to you to show where I’m wrong.
I never asked you to prove my argument, I asked you to simply substantiate yours. Leaving that aside, what are you actually asking here? You argued that a host of variables made testing the efficacy of masks impossible. You based this on the argument that in order to be able to test efficacy we would have to control the parameters you mentioned. Again, it’s not clear why this is necessary if you can’t control these parameters in practice. In other words, outside of limited use cases, we want to know their efficacy when used by the general public. Nothing you’ve raised actually indicates that a study cannot test the efficacy of masks in either narrow use cases where the staff are highly trained and disciplined in their usage or at the opposite end. BTW, I’m not sure how these studies are not falsifiable in theory or practice.
If you’re not sure how such a study could be falsifiable then what are you actually arguing about? I’ll ask again, how would you create a double blind test for mask wearing efficacy under Popper’s principle? I wouldn’t know where to begin, which is why I asked that if you believe it’s falsifiable then show us how.
Cooking rack of lamb tonight. The fragrance of rosemary basted in sheep fat it wafting through the house.
Just thought I’d get your digestive juices going.
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Bother.
The G&T made a typo.
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Um… er… ah…. erm…. um…. When does the ‘camping’ part take place?
Yep. Most guys get driven into town each night for a parma, beer and hot shower each night. Beginning to think JC might be onto something.
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Speculation of a civil partitions are also fanciful.
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What’s the interest rate on the mortgage for the rack of lamb, Callie.
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Droving is basically camping with cows.
Brave.
I might have struggled at the interview stage at The Bulletin circa 1860.
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Lol bons. I confess, it was disinterred from the bottom of the freezer yesterday.
An Aldi Special Buy.
I will report back on its quality in due course. The cook has done her best.
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Cooking rack of lamb tonight.
Frozen pies
#sadface
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“The dems didnt pressure Twitter to bury the bunter hiden story”
Lower case ‘D’ dems did, they are the D-voting Twitter employees who suppressed links to the story.
Upper case ‘D’ Democrats party members… well Taibbi said so far he has not seen evidence of that happening.
Either Taibbi is your source, or Taibbi is not your source. Picking and choosing which (summary) statements from him to believe and not believe based on your foregone preferences is not a credible form of argument.
I also suspect the Dems (uppercase) communicated their preferences over the story’s circulation to their Twitter buddies, but without “the receipts” (as they say) this is only hypothesis.
Musk has since said that one way the release of The Twitter Files can be improved is to post more source documents along with the narrative. This should make it easier for people to interpret the documentary sources as evidence of particular shenanigans, moving them beyond the level of hypothesis.
Also Elon responds to m0nty here 🙂 https://youtu.be/cJiw_VpnGgk?t=4749
Mr Musk appears persuaded by the Twitter Files that (quote) “Frankly, Twitter was acting like an arm of the Democratic National Committee.” He says this in the context of events that occurred in the leadup to the 2020 election. However I do not recall him saying specifically that the Democrats were explicitly instigating all of these requests. His first explanation is that the Dems’ groupthink was endemic in the Twitter staff, such that no specific commands were needed for Twitter to help them out. Yet in an earlier part of the discussion he says “the level of collusion was insane”, which definitely implies two different parties working together.
So I think Taibbi was okay to hold back from making a specific Dems collusion claim if he had not seen anything to support it. But that was yesterday and Musk has seen the lot and is today characterising the evidence as above. Until we get the actual sources, Musk is a better source than Taibbi. It was collusion, that’s the word he used.
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Happened in PA, for instance.
Did you read that in Breitbart or Gateway Pundit, LOL.
What’s the interest rate on the mortgage for the rack of lamb, Callie.
Waltzing Mathilda today. Jolly jumbuck time. Just stuff it in your tuckerbag.
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Heh. My forebears were transported for thieving. Venison.
And cloth.
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Trump never asked for any censorship.
Hmm, let’s go to the Twitter Files…
Matt Taibbi @mtaibbi
10.Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:
You are extremely bad at this, cohenite. You keep falling flat on your face.
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Would the amount of censorship be a product of how much it was sought?
There may not be symmetry in the requests and execution.
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Droving is basically camping with cows
Kevin Costners poor received follow up to Dancing with wolves?
So no money will be spent for the “yes” or “no” campaigns:
It’s not that Labor think the Voice referendum will fail miserably, I think they believe it cannot fail so why waste money on it and give the No option publicity. They probably want to say later how they were fiscally responsible.
Besides, as has been pointed out, why spend public money when every corporation is falling over themselves to push the Yes option.
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However:
go on monster, complete that quote:
11. This system wasn’t balanced. It was based on contacts. Because Twitter was and is overwhelmingly staffed by people of one political orientation, there were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left (well, Democrats) than the right.
12. The resulting slant in content moderation decisions is visible in the documents you’re about to read. However, it’s also the assessment of multiple current and former high-level executives.
oh.. and here’s a Trump request
19. White House spokeswoman Kaleigh McEnany was locked out of her account for tweeting about the [biden laptop] story, prompting a furious letter from Trump campaign staffer Mike Hahn, who seethed: “At least pretend to care for the next 20 days.”
The split (donations to party by twitter employees) in 2022 was 99.7 democrat
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Dover, if you have an issue with what I said, which you did, then it’s up to you to show where I’m wrong.
I did.
If you’re not sure how such a study could be falsifiable then what are you actually arguing about? I’ll ask again, how would you create a double blind test for mask wearing efficacy under Popper’s principle? I wouldn’t know where to begin, which is why I asked that if you believe it’s falsifiable then show us how.
Umm, I never said I wasn’t sure whether a mask study was falsifiable, I said I wasn’t sure how they weren’t. There is simply nothing about the usage of masks that could not be tested. All this talk about falsifiability is beside the point anyway. If someone wanted to test whether mask usage was efficacious within a broad range of circumstances by the members of the public they would simply conduct a test within those range of circumstances involving members of the public that had been taught basic mask usage. You could compare them with a group that wore no mask or a group that wore a sub-standard mask and use the later as a placebo. And then you could just compare the rates of infection, transmission, between those who were masked and close contacts. The entire point of the study is to determine whether or not masks work in those circumstances, and there is nothing about such a study that is unfalsifiable.
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thefrollickingmole says:
December 5, 2022 at 5:47 pm
Droving is basically camping with cows
Kevin Costners poor received follow up to Dancing with wolves?
Still better than Cow creek
Or silence of the cows.
Ha, Driller claims he was droving cattle at three years of age. Americans have Kevin Costner. We have Salvator Costner – the one time three year old cowboy.
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Looks like I’ll have to cancel Christmas. The teevee adverts tell me lunches have to resemble a Benetton advert. Mum will be disappointed.
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m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 5:34 pm
Happened in PA, for instance.
Did you read that in Breitbart or Gateway Pundit, LOL.
Is that the best that the daily DemonRat Talking Points could come up with? LOL.
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The Andrews gov has just announced ministers and dept changes.
Agriculture is being moved into the new department, DEECA – Department of Environment, Energy and Climate Action
Does this mean we could be heading for Netherland style restrictions on farming to save the environment?
Also, with public servants be gluing themselves to great artworks?
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Actually, watching a two part series on Harry Houdini at present.
…
Interesting bloke. He used to invite people to punch him in the stomach to show how strong he was.
He was also a Spook.
I did.
Saying you don’t understand my claim is not showing where you believe I’m wrong. Telling isn’t showing.
Umm, I never said I wasn’t sure whether a mask study was falsifiable, I said I wasn’t sure how they weren’t. There is simply nothing about the usage of masks that could not be tested. All this talk about falsifiability is beside the point anyway. If someone wanted to test whether mask usage was efficacious within a broad range of circumstances by the members of the public they would simply conduct a test within those range of circumstances involving members of the public that had been taught basic mask usage. You could compare them with a group that wore no mask or a group that wore a sub-standard mask and use the later as a placebo. And then you could just compare the rates of infection, transmission, between those who were masked and close contacts. The entire point of the study is to determine whether or not masks work in those circumstances, and there is nothing about such a study that is unfalsifiable.
How would you create a placebo in mask testing keeping in mind you have to maintain all the other variables at exactly the same as in the non-placebo test?
Did you read that in Breitbart or Gateway Pundit, LOL.
Thanks for admitting I was right.
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It’s not that Labor think the Voice referendum will fail miserably, I think they believe it cannot fail so why waste money on it and give the No option publicity.
Are you fucking serious?
JCsays: December 5, 2022 at 5:10 pm
What a stupid comment.
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You are extremely bad at this, cohenite. You keep falling flat on your face.
Only dickless people can fall flat on their faces dickless.
Give us an example of Trump demanding censorship of anything and we’ll award you an honorary dick.
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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
December 5, 2022 at 5:58 pm
JCsays: December 5, 2022 at 5:10 pm
What a stupid comment.
Agreed , but it’s more than that.
You’ve never moved cattle in your life. I was doing it from before I can remember, certainly by 3yo.
But it more than stupid. It borders on psychopathic dishonesty. It’s also insulting our intelligence, but being a stupid loser, you really wouldn’t be able to know better.
Driller, you’re an abomination of our species.
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Pre-dawn in the dairy bales
It’s called a Cow Bail by people who have actually been in one.
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Frozen pies
learn to cook
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Besides, as has been pointed out, why spend public money when every corporation is falling over themselves to push the Yes option.
Other way around. They figure if it is advertised there will be blowback. The resentment of the aboriginal industry is pretty deep in the suburbs, but it they can keep it at the shallowest possible level they figure they can get it up.
If there was the slightest benefit by chucking money at the yes case the floodgates would be opened. It’s not their money after all, it’s ours. But the likes of ATSIC and Thorpe, Langton and other loud and obnoxious black armbanders, plus land councils claiming everything they can get away with, have made it dangerous to call attention to this issue. Which is why Jacinta Price is doing so.
I think Kevin Costner would be more Brokeback Mountain than Dances with Wolves.. Which reminds me I must follow up my Australia Council grant application for an Australian adaptation starring Warren Entsch.
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It’s called a Cow Bail by people who have actually been in one.
The mystery of where ed-Mong gets his Ed-facts from is solved.
Sal saying he was droving by the age of three is not unusual. Country kids were pulling their weight on the farm by three or four. They still are. You only have to check out the Cattle or Sheep pavilions at any of our Royal shows to see children barely past toddler stage leading calves and sheep to mum and dad. Also getting hay and helping with the grooming.
That’s just how it is.
Agriculture is being moved into the new department, DEECA – Department of Environment, Energy and Climate Action
The Liars really hate farmers. They aren’t even pretending now.
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Progia
How those activities you mention an example of a 3 year old kid driving cattle for 15/2o miles a day on a horse?
Hunter gathering is where it’s at.
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Saying you don’t understand my claim is not showing where you believe I’m wrong. Telling isn’t showing.
I did show where I thought you were wrong, back here and elsewhere.
How would you create a placebo in mask testing keeping in mind you have to maintain all the other variables at exactly the same as in the non-placebo test?
You give the placebo group a mask that you think is considerably below par. And, again, these “other variables at exactly the same as in the non-placebo test” do not need to be maintained because they do not need to be maintained even within each group. What needs to be maintained are the conditions that are going to obtain in each use case, whether it’s in a surgical setting, in an office space, in a residential dwelling, or the like because that is what you are testing; namely, the efficacy of masking in each use case.
Selling kids for brothel/spare parts in Eastern Europe.
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Indolentsays:
December 5, 2022 at 6:11 pm
‘Zero Tolerance’: Suspension Rate Nearly Doubles For Twitter Accounts Exploiting Child Sex Abuse Material
Why am I not surprised that all those DemonRat supporting Twatter staff had been less than vigorous in policing such material? Good to see Musk stepping up the pace.
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Opinion
Urgent changes needed to halt new ‘stolen generation’
Sue-Anne Hunter
Deputy chair of the Yoorrook Justice Commission
December 5, 2022 — 11.39am
Through 20 years working within the Aboriginal child and family welfare field, I have seen first-hand the way children removed from their families – and their connection to culture – become adrift from all that is needed for them to grow up strong.
The result is a new lost generation of Aboriginal children; lost to kin, lost to culture, and lost to Community. Literally, before our eyes, we are seeing the perpetuation of intergenerational trauma to our newest generation, often from birth.
The child protection and youth justice systems are operating as an inextricably linked pipeline: from child protection to youth justice to the adult justice system. The trauma is passed on and the cycle continues.
Today the Yoorrook Justice Commission begins its next round of public hearings. The commission is investigating Victoria’s criminal “justice” and child “protection” systems, the unjust laws and practices that existed and continue to exist within these systems, and the reasons why governments are yet to make the much-needed systemic changes.
We have all heard individual stories of the failure to protect Aboriginal children and young people within these systems. These stories are not just about individuals; combined they make up the collective narrative of the systemic injustices faced by First Peoples in Victoria from colonisation onwards.
For example, despite our knowledge of the devastating impact of child removal, Aboriginal children in Victoria are 20 times more likely to be removed from their families than non-Indigenous children – a rate greater than the stolen generations.
Similarly, despite the 339 recommendations made by the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody 31 years ago, First Peoples in Victoria are incarcerated at 14 times the rate of non-Indigenous people.
Yoorrook’s hearings this month will focus on why. Why are rates of First Peoples in both systems increasing, not decreasing? Why haven’t governments prevented these tragic outcomes despite the multitude of reports and inquiries into both systems over the last decade?
To begin to answer these questions, this week Yoorrook will hear first-hand from Aboriginal leaders working in this area.
In February, we will hear the voices of Community whose lives have been impacted by the child protection and criminal justice systems – including members of the stolen generations.
In March we will hear from representatives of government and institutions, allowing questions of accountability and systemic change to be asked and answered.
Some of the issues we expect the hearings to bring to light include the continuing impact of early colonisation on the failures of these systems; the fact that our very low age of criminal responsibility means that children as young as 10 can be locked up in youth jails; the reasons behind harrowing rates of First Peoples child removal including newborns; the impact of the criminalisation of children in care; how bail and remand laws are affecting First Peoples; over-policing and under-policing; deaths in custody; and calls for independent police oversight.
There is a lot of injustice to address and a lot of truth to be told.
Yoorrook is the chance for First Peoples to tell our truth – our story of resilience and survival, of inequality and loss, of sacrifice and the injustices we continue to endure.
The truths told by First Peoples will help form the evidence base needed for Yoorrook to make recommendations for transformational change in the child protection and criminal justice systems – for First Peoples and for the state of Victoria.
Yoorrook is the chance for government to account for the failures of the past and to level the playing field for all Victorians for the future.
Participating in these hearings will be challenging for many of our people – individuals, families, communities and organisations.
The hearings will likely be confronting to the wider Victorian public, including the bureaucracies intimately involved in child protection and criminal justice. But discomfort must be faced for First Peoples and non-Indigenous Victorians alike.
Victoria, as a state, needs to understand the true story of the colonisation of these lands, and the devastating – and lasting – impact of colonisation on First Peoples. Just as there is trauma in injustice, there is healing in truth.
The Yoorrook Justice Commission will deliver a critical issues report in June 2023 that will detail the evidence from these hearings on child protection and criminal justice and the submissions we are receiving. The report will recommend systemic change to address injustice.
Victorians should be proud that our state is leading the nation in the Truth and Treaty processes.
There will be challenging times ahead, but we have to go through this together if we are to secure change for First Peoples and build a better future for all Victorians based on truth and justice.
The rest of Australia will be watching with keen interest.
Constitutional recognition, a Voice to Parliament, and a treaty will solve all the problems, surely?
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I Accidentally Interviewed SBF And He Hated It
He’s shaping up to be one of the more ghastly creatures in the Lefty firmament.
To start with he’s a loud and proud vegan. Then it goes downhill from there.
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JCsays: December 5, 2022 at 6:15 pm
How those activities you mention an example of a 3 year old kid driving cattle for 15/2o miles a day on a horse?
Ten miles. You try to keep up twenty miles for more than one day, or with weaker cattle, & see how you go. Where the farq do you get this “Twenty miles a day” from?
3yo hangs on for dear life to a monkey grip atop a tired old pensioner (sometimes on a lead behind a grown-up’s horse) & pretends they’re part of the action.
If your experience has revealed a better way to bring along a 3yo with a mob of cattle, we’re all ears.
Aggrieved sexual assault complainants are nothing new in the criminal justice system. There would be a couple of them in any given law reform commission at any point in time.
I think the internal dynamics in the Labor caucus would win out.
And I might even watch if it meant Penny Wong v. Kochie on morning TV! 😀
Bingo!.
Try a little harder then.
You can mess around with chemicals in a test tube, create the exact same compound and then feed it to a large number of people in double blind studies.
How would you even get close to that sort of experiment with mask wearing?
No I’m not. I’m saying that with some things we have to go with hunches because an experiment testing for falsification is impossible at times. It can’t be done.
Hallward, won’t answer as he’s gone flying model airplanes today. Would you suggest it would be a advisable to conduct surgery without masking up?
I no longer have a copy of Kings in Grass Castles, but if memory serves me correctly the drove to the Kimberley took in excess of a year.
The standout incident for me was when they were stopped in the Barkley due to a shortage of horses and were being felled by malaria, one of the brothers rode back 1,000 miles to purchase fresh horses.
How on earth did they navigate?
An old man with grey hair v an old man with no hair. It might rate. Let’s see what the sales guys think. In those inflatable fat man suits?
When you truly believe in the Big Lie, everything else becomes easy. You can even support fascism, because you believe that your coup is only overturning the other side’s fascism… even though that’s a lie too.
Trump is still ahead of DeSantis by ten points or more. The Establishment is pumping hard to shift the numbers, but the base remains with TFG for the moment.
This is not the surgical study I was looking for but for hospitals generally.
From the UK, 1980.
https://jcp.bmj.com/content/jclinpath/33/11/1086.full.pdf
The masks don’t protect the wearer and surgically can only ever prevent bacterial loads. Viruses are too small, plus only the better masks work at all.
monty
WTF are you babbling about?
You are just as bad as the Q Tards some days.
Dot
That’s a different type of study. Hallward was suggesting masks are totally useless.
I don’t believe we’re technically advanced enough to be able to make a claim about masks and I’m also pretty sure that if I looked hard enough I would find a study with a counterclaim.
I was referencing the previous thread of convo with cohenite, who has swallowed the Big Lie completely. He is a simple man who finds comfort in believing that life is a fight between Good and Evil with him (of course) on the side of Good, meaning that all that is not on his side is Evil. Plus lots of dick references, but that’s a separate neurosis.
Aren’t they wearing the same, manufactured mask in the study? If so, isn’t that the same as the ‘exact same compound being feed’ to them in a double blind study?
Even is they ònly prevent bacterial loads why isn’t that enough reason for the doc to use them?
Is that the one the Time magazine article outlined about the ‘fortification’ of the 2020 election?
If only you had showed such dedication at school.
I did. It figures you’d bring up school being a dickless leftie and lefties are united in their special love of kiddies.
Trump now realises the extent of corruption in the system. Being a courageous sort of guy he’ll keep battering away trying to rescue the country and system he admires. I personally think it’s beyond redemption but I repeat Trump is being specific about election corruption and the lack of remedy. He’s not looking to overturn the system. The dickless kiddie lovers already know the system is gone.
Head prefect, I posted an analysis of the dinner Trump had with those 2 pests: he was set up; and this is one of the great man’s weaknesses: he’s too trusting.
According to Rowan Dean last night, the MacDonalds cattle drive from Goulburn to the Kimberly took three years. Hope this helps the questioners.
No, it’s not. How would you conduct such a study, in the exact same room, with the exact same air flow, at the exact same temp with the exact same people with the exact same health conditions at the exact same distance etc, etc. ?
It can’t be falsified.
Near enough is not good enough.
Those 60+ lawsuits that the Trump teams lost were won by someone. You don’t hear about those lawyers much, do you? Patriots all.
He wouldn’t mind if someone overturned it for his benefit though, hint hint.
Pity for him that the ringleaders of his insurrection are now rotting in gaol.
Welcome to the morning mUnty rakefest.
Internet has gone down all across Canberra and nearby NSW, by the looks of it.
Ed, is that you?
I am having a texting chat with a friend about Musk and what just happened with Apple.
Me Quoting an except.
Pal
He’s right.
Musk has enormous power done right and smart.
They followed the songlines, of course!
But seriously…did they have aboriginal assistance? I seem to recall that being mentioned in the book. They would certainly have had compasses and presumably noted landmarks along the way so they could backtrack.
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An urgent investigation into the planning day – and the post-event drinks function – has now been launched following inquiries from The Daily Telegraph. The Telegraph understands that those responsible for putting on the bar tab could find their jobs on the line.
It comes after a horror year in which Sydney’s trains recorded the worst on-time running record in four years and motorists have been plagued by pothole-filled roads.
Staff from Transport for NSW’s “Customer Strategy and Engagement Branch” spent an entire day at the five-star Sydney hotel discussing what the agency had achieved, a whistleblower told The Daily Telegraph.
As part of the event, public servants were tasked with recreating the Sydney Harbour Bridge out of aluminium foil, marshmallows and dried pasta. The whistleblower said staff were told that the activity was to “activate our right brains”.
It was described as an “end of year team bonding” exercise.
About 200 people attended the staff planning day. On one estimate, the event could have cost as much as $20,000 – at $100 per head.
Transport for NSW failed to disclose the cost.
Daily Tele
I think, Bruce Pascoe said Aboriginals invented Longitude and then they gifted it to the British Navy who in turn pretended they found out how.
No I’m not anti-mask, Bespoke, which I’ve already corrected you about once this morning. I am anti fake answers to scientific issues. I’ve worn masks and other PPE a great deal in laboratories and operating sites. They make sense there, when you have exposure to toxic dust or fumes (for which you need an activated carbon respirator, not just a dust mask).
Due to my profession I see it as a duty to correct antiscientific mysticism, and masking to stop a virus is exactly that. Just as there are other scientific myths prevalent these days, particularly pushed by the Left, often for financial and political gain.
Patriots all.
I love it when dickless commies wrap themselves in virtue.
Why are some tweets on the 2020 election being corrupt still being labelled by twaddle as misleading?
https://twitter.com/_/status/1599513923379597312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Hang on, why do you require this level of identity across all relevant variables but not in respect of pharmaceutical studies? Are subjects in these trials required to have the ‘exact same health conditions’, living conditions, etc? Further, if their efficacy depended upon this sort of strict control then their usage generally would be pointless because the conditions for their efficacy would be impossible to practically maintain.
You’re right JC, Musk does have great power. He doesn’t appear to be foolish with it either. He seems to me he’s got that much on his mind with things we’ve never seen before or done differently that he has no time to meddle.
Monty – You are projecting yet again. Fascism is a left-wing political ideology. Anyone with a slightest knowledge of history knows that. Oh and there’s no big lie that the Left will not tell, like CAGW.
If you are after clarity then refrain from comments like this, BoN.
Amulet?
Father Nurgle considers these afflictions as blessings.
Who had the guns munty? Try looking up insurrection in the dictionary dickless.
About Ten miles per day.
Bespoke – In what way is that statement not true for this application? Make sure you address the context in the comment, ie not just that single paragraph from it.
When I am doing hazardous tasks I do not wear PPE all day. I take it off to go to lunch, or to work on the computer. I wear it when it makes sense to do so. It does not make sense to wear a mask to prevent infection by a virus. That is totally obvious to anyone who knows chemistry and SI units. I said this probably in March 2020 and the proliferation of papers on the subject have been exactly as I said – like the one on N95s I linked today.
No! They’re all dedicated public servants who accept a modest salary in exchange for job security! They’re also the best of the best!
This line is always trotted out by midwits – its actually a very good indicator of midwittery – but when asked how many of these were actually tried before the court on the merits as opposed to dismissed by appeals to standing, laches, or the like, its crickets.
I’ll grant them this, like the bushmen of the Kalahari they were good navigators who kne wthe paths of least resistance through the landscape.
Most of our highways and the old stock routes follow indigenous tracks.
Without maps & writing the indigenous preserved this knowledge and passed it on through their song cycles and other means. That’s what Pascoe should be researching and writing about but he doesn’t have the knowledge because much of it that pertained to the eastern side of the continent has been lost and he’s not aboriginal in any case.
How long? As Pogria says above, McDonalds took Three years, Duracks the same. Nat Buchanan’s big effort was something similar.
Ticket inspectors?
2nd week in December and most ALPBC luvvies are disappearing. The B team EPs take charge and a few non speed dial “experts” make it to air. Not for long.
Knuckle Dragger:
She’s worked hard and sacrificed a lot to build this future for herself.
I hope she enjoys it.
Kings in Grass Castles. There’s an account of very thirsty cattle who could smell water coming down from the north. They charged into the river with half the mob drowning. Up in Queensland somewhere.
Doesn’t Pascoe say the locals invented flight?
Actually, watching a two part series on Harry Houdini at present. He was a big fan of early aircraft and actually owned one, a Voisin. He came to Australia at one stage and was said by many to have made the first flight in Oz in a powered aircraft, although some say he was actually third.
Interesting bloke. He used to invite people to punch him in the stomach to show how strong he was.
Bespoke – I’ll add with breeding bacteria there is a time axis involved also. Under good conditions bacteria may replicate every 20 minutes or so. Therefore wearing a new mask for an hour isn’t going to dramatically raise the chance of a bacterial infection, but wearing it all day is a recipe for exponential growth.
No one has said that people should change masks every hour. They haven’t said that because there’s a limit to public patience, and that is over it – just as having a booster four times a year is beyond it, despite that being what the antibody blood sample data saying in the Danish and Israeli megastudies.
Sigh! If you’re frusted at a laymen asking questions that’s not dazzled by jargon and credentials go find a bigger pond, BoN.
Or you could try to be more consistent.
fuck-wittery
Except except everyone that uses them as part of he profession.
Not too hard – head generally SE till you hit the Georgina, then follow it south ?
Heading back to find the mob may have been more interesting.
You’ve got to think big picture – using large navigational end-stops like river systems.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 10:49 am
Trump: I want to be installed as a fascist dictator:
Cats: See! That proves that it’s the Democrats who are fascists!
MontyPox Virus: The Democrats are Pussy Cats and Love Democracy
The Real World: MontyPox Virus is seriously deluded
Brittany Higgins’ partner accuses Senator Linda Reynolds of bullying
Shorter: when will the cash flow start?
Segue for AG Dreyfus to stop the monstering, approve the claim, so that everyone can move on with their lives and get on with the next phase of bagging the toxic Morrison Government. Lest anyone forgets.
Houdini made his flight at Diggers Rest, I think Plumpton Rd area, there’s a monument to it on the road, saw it years ago. Since then a monument has been erected in Diggers Rest but nowhere near where the actual flight took place.
Bespoke – Context is your friend, the context in this case being mask usage policy as forced upon us by the CMO health nazis during the lockdown phase. No they didn’t say change masks every hour.
It was amusing seeing all those people with glorified hankies over their faces. Pretty colours but totally useless. Still plenty of people doing it now.
(Incidentally there was a warning recently about fungal lung infections being on the rise. Hmmm.)
Naaa..
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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
December 5, 2022 at 11:51 am
Eyrie says: December 5, 2022 at 9:42 am
Might actually take a substantial fraction of a year. How fast do cattle move on a drive?
About Ten miles per day.
History
The Canning Stock Route was created by Alfred Canning, who was chosen to survey a route for Kimberley cattlemen to take their stock to the southern markets at a time when cattle tick issues prevented the use of other transport methods. From 1906 to 1907, Canning conducted a full survey from north to south and return and fund a stock route was feasible.
From 1908 to 1910 he led a team to construct the 51 wells between Halls Creek and Wiluna a distance of 1850km. Wells were constructed one day’s travel apart for a mob of cattle. Extra wells were established in southern parts of the route to accommodate the more limited range of sheep.
By 1929 the condition of the original wells and equipment had deteriorated due to fire, termites and the occasional act of vandalism to a stage where it became imprudent to drove cattle along the route. At this stage, only 5 mobs of cattle and 3 mobs of horses had actually made the trip. In 1929 the Government decided to refurbish the CSR, William Snell led a reconstruction team. He was unable to complete the refurbishments due to excessive temperatures, and so he returned to Wiluna. The Government, upon receiving complaints about the quality of Snell’s work, did not renew its contract with him. They asked A.W. Canning (now 68 years old) to complete the job – a task he accepted.
During WWII (1942 – 1944) the stock route was again refurbished, with the wells brought back into operation in anticipation of an emergency evacuation if the NW was bombed. At the end of the war, shipping of livestock resumed and slowly the stock route fell into disrepair. It continued to be used however, with droving parties completing rudimentary maintenance. It was used for another 14 droves from 1945, with the last being in 1959.
Nation Relieved To No Longer Have To Pretend To Like Soccer
Dover, how do you think (excluding Covid) pharma studies are conducted?
They are required to have the same ailment, no? It’s not as though they will enter someone suffering gallbladder problems to undergo chemo trials to test for curing or controlling a brain cancer.
Oh, so now you too want perfection. It’s not possible as we’re human.
Higgins goes to sue Reynolds for a bunch of stuff.. but Reynolds is the bully for letting people know about it ?
Truly clown world.
Did that old crow on The Project lose her job because of the way she intervened in the case?
The big deficiency in that cattle drive was surely in economists.
After you reach your destination, then what ?
You’re a long way from your market.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 9:56 am
I have no idea how he plans on doing that, since they have the electoral system locked up and are importing millions of new voters a year. Nothing short of a military coup can now reverse the rot.
Luckily, Trump thought of that!
A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution
His solution is fascism.
Too late, with their joint operations between government and corporations, the DemonRats have already instituted fascism. Check Mussolini’s guide to fascism.
Trump will just have to settle for unconstitutional authoritarianism. Oh, sorry, the DemonRats had that before they went full fascist. He is still behind them.
Sad. Like being a guest on Jerry Springer.
The vileness of the political meja class on full display. You wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire
The Kimberley droves were remarkable, but for me the most extraordinary journey of all was Bering’s trip to Kamchepnia and eastern Siberia.
When the Tzar ordered him to wizz over to the east coast and see if Russia was joined up to North America he slipped off with a small team of 250 and arrived in Kamchepnia a year later having traveled through the Siberian winter.
Discovering that neither the Kamchepnia bears nor the locals were in any way welcoming he undertook a short three month backtrack and set up his shipyard on the Siberian Coast.
Two years later after having built two ships and suffered apalling weather he set off back to St Petersburg where he arrived a year later to tell the Tzar “no, it ain’t”.
The discution is about the effectiveness of the mask, BoN. Not the political aspect.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 10:24 am
He’s upset and incredibly angry how the election was stolen. Any normal person would be too. Even abnormal people can get angry.
Sure. But that kind of disqualifies him from the office of POTUS.
Whereas being a senile old fool with a penchant for sniffing the hair of women and pre-pubescent girls doesn’t disqualify Creepy Joe from that office?
Brittany should dump the boyfriend, move back home and volunteer minding cats at the local shelter. I think she is not cut out for the “ You go grrrrl!” lifestyle.
Ah yes, that old chestnut. Woulda gotten away with it if it weren’t for those damn laws!
Mmyes, it’s difficult to foresee how democratic institutions can respond to Twitter applying content moderation to its own platform.
m0nty=fa
You forgot to add the words “at the behest of one side of politics”.
Here’s the study:
https://jdfor2024.com/2022/01/1981-surgeons-medical-mask-study-concludes-minimum-contamination-can-best-be-achieved-by-not-wearing-a-mask-at-all/
JC can print it out on stiff paper, fold it so it has sharp edges sticking out and shove it up his arse.
It is always amusing watching the scientifically illiterate display their Dunning-Kruger.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 10:49 am
Trump: I want to be installed as a fascist dictator:
Cats: See! That proves that it’s the Democrats who are fascists!
You really need to learn more. “Fascism” is not simply anything political with which you disagree. It has specific arrangements, which the DemonRats have already introduced to the US.
The first box of blue masks we bought for our household had the warning that they were unsuitable for viruses. They were always spit guards at best.
The sight of breath vapour drifting out around masks on a frosty morning should have cured anyone of the thought that they were very effective.
As said above, high quality masks that are changed regularly would be of benefit but nobody did that in the general community and therefor the health advice was dishonest.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 11:20 am
I was referencing the previous thread of convo with cohenite, who has swallowed the Big Lie completely. He is a simple man who finds comfort in believing that life is a fight between Good and Evil with him (of course) on the side of Good, meaning that all that is not on his side is Evil.
Mirror, mirror on the wall …
This is exactly m0nty=fa’s approach to politics.
“You’re right JC, Musk does have great power. He doesn’t appear to be foolish with it either.”
Twitter “dump” after 5PM on a Friday – almost nothing that happens at that time ever makes the mainstream media. Friday afternon is where news stories go to die. Next dump(s) timing will tell whether that was deliberate to “bury” the story as a sap to “the enemy”, or just how things worked out. Tucker did pick it up though, and while he’s harder to ignore than most, they still managed with Bobulinski, so who knows?
“As said above, high quality masks that are changed regularly would be of benefit but nobody did that in the general community and therefor the health advice was dishonest.”
Confirmed by observational studies for mask mandated vs non-mandated areas – almost impossible to tell which was which WRT infections or deaths.
Pity for him that the ringleaders of his insurrection are now rotting in gaol.
m0nty=fa still babbling about the only unarmed insurrection in history.
Tell us, m0nty=fa, how many have been charged with the actual crime of “Insurrection”?
There were two aspects to the “censorship” discussed in the Twitter Files.
First, there was the deletion of posts nominated by the Biden and Trump camps, specifically in Biden’s case it was nude pics of Hunter Biden with his nine-inch hog out. Both sides were able to get posts taken down. This should be uncontroversial – nude pics of Biden’s son are not politically relevant no matter what their provenance.
Second, there was the suppression of links to the NY Post story. You could argue that maybe Twitter should have allowed links with explanatory warnings, sure, but they are a private platform and thus retain the right. There was no government interference in the internal Twitter process, regardless, so it’s not a political scandal.
That is the entirety of the story, so far. Maybe more will come out later, but that’s about it as far as big reveals go. What a fizzer.
Hallward
But I never claimed you were lying -that there was no study, you ridiculous clown. I maintained the study is as useless as you are and that you ought to continue flying toy planes.
It’s useless as any study which can’t be falsified.
You laughable clown, you’re on here most days claiming that the science behind gerbil warming is bullshit. It’s mostly crap because of the studies claiming it’s true cannot be falsified, yet here you are defending an ancient un-falsifiable study because it agrees with your bias. Get the fuck out of here and stop wasting our time, you buffoon.
Also, I asked you a question. Typical that you ignored it.
The masks are very effective
when used to clean the windscreen and rear view mirrors
“nine inch hog”
Effin’ hell munter, you’re obsessed with this laughably large penis.
Remember those nine glorious inches the next time you say others are obsessed with “dick pics”.
There were three times as many cases for ethics violations decided against the Trump 2020 lawyers than Kraken cases they won, LOL. Including Rudy Giuliani losing his licence.
Unlike, say, Grace Tame who appears to be a surly natural.
This is another example of the link to one of Hallward’s posts doesn’t say what he thinks it says and many times suggests the opposite.
Read the conclusion.
? They usually need to move them for a reason.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-29/tom-brinkworth-australias-largest-cattle-drove/5352310
Monty says..
There was no government interference in the internal Twitter process, regardless, so it’s not a political scandal.
Tabbis twitter dump.
In an email dated October 24, just days before the 2020 presidential election, the “Biden team” reportedly demanded that Twitter scrub information critical of Hunter Biden from the site, according to a jaw dropping release of “The Twitter Files” by new CEO Elon Musk.
Twitter staff forwarded a request from what seemed to be the Biden campaign to delete five tweets in particular.
“More to review from the Biden team,” the message, from the first installment of the documents analyzed by journalist Matt Taibbi, read. “Handled,” was the reply.
..
Hunter Biden abandoned the computer at a Delaware repair shop in April 2019. It contained messages showing that then–vice president Joe Biden was introduced by his son to a top businessman at a Ukrainian energy firm “less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company,” the Post wrote in October 2020. The correspondence contradicted Biden’s claim that he had “never spoken” to Hunter Biden “about his overseas business dealings.”
Hmmm who might be more reliable, Monty Sugarman or Matt Tabbi?
when mUnty says stupid shit like, I dunno … Trump wants to be dictator.
its because he’s not here for argument, he’s here for self-justification
it will never matter what you say in response to mUnty
rational appeals or structured or comparative argument cannot work.
the post-structuralists don’t operate in rational space.
his universe it isn’t fact based and j’ismists would call that post-truth
the feminists and other schools have different terms for the same thing
Post-modern, Intersectionality, relativism etc
what you people are missing is the unspoken bit.
have you noticed how mUnter rarely says things like …there was no cheating
or … there was no censorship
for the most part he cannot and will not take a stand-point argument because everything is relative for these people. There are no absolutes.
what he really means and it is the scary part, is that, the cheating and censorship are apparently necessary and reasonable steps toward achieving a better shiny happy outcome.
see, progress right.
for retards like mUnty everything you say, no matter how measured, or how dismissive, or shaming, makes zero diffence.
Everything goes through his bullshit filter and gets mangled into the next brain-fart.
Somebody said earlier today that they are at war with us.
yes, they are
and they have captured education, govt at all levels, the judiciary and the media.
there’s only one final thing left for them to do
Wow! Rake shrapnel flying everywhere this morning.
ah … the exception.
when he does this ^^
it is outright gas-lighting.
ie your reality is wrong
Calli:
Silica?
Like the stuff you find contaminating our beaches and riversides? Are they going to demand we wear N95 masks at the beach? It’s a logical progression, I think.
Sand? This sounds like another grab for regulatory power by the Unions with an eye on the compo payouts…
I wouldn’t trust these bastards as far as I could spit a dead rat.
Robert Sewell,
I grabbed the latest Linux Mint and got it on a USB for you.
I’m just gonna test spin it on an old PC here to make sure it works ok.
then I’ll post it to you.
Heh.
The Cat has it’s own Q and M.
007 eat your heart out.
Doc Faustus:
Top Men?
Tame’s performance with SloMo was masterful. Just like a 15yo asked to clean up their room.
The height of absurdity was reached when you could sit at a table in a pub with however many people were permitted and have a gabfest but you had to put your mask on to get up and go to the bar and order a drink.
Ohhhh Munty, you almost got it in before it went off, never mind we can try again next year.
The whole “thinking at the speed of light, no time even for capital letters” thing is laughable.
Doc Faustus:
It’s surprising how many people wouldn’t have done the measurements.
8 inches is well within my comfort zone, and unless it were someone bloody attractive and of the opposite sex, they’d get a damn good shove away.
It is the fine dust that kill woodworkers, masons and plasterers, Robert.
Nice rendition of an old favourite
Robert Sewellsays:
December 5, 2022 at 1:30 pm
Calli:
Useful for stonemasons and benchtop cutters. Until they aren’t.
Silicosis for the stone benchtop mob has been a known issue for about 20 years i know of.
Its a little like asbestos, takes a while for it to hit and then you are effectively rooted.
Was a number of recommendations such as high flow exhaust fans, working wet, as well as masks mooted as needed.
https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/publications/safety-alert-112018-stone-benchtop-workers-risk-silicosis
Its a disease which is preventable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xFgQV7javw
Can’t you feel the rock dust in your lungs?
It’ll cut down a miner when he is still young
Two years and the silicosis takes hold
And I feel like I’m dying from mining for gold
Yes, I feel like I’m dying from mining for gold
ZK2A:
Of course not.
All the Aboriginal weapons were environmentally sustainable and rotted away after the battles. Wot, do you think they were ecobarbarians?
mole, you are an idiot. At the time, Trump was POTUS. Biden did not hold a position in the government. You really are a moron.
Eyrie:
I’m a little surprised no enterprising refrigerator designer hasn’t developed a UV light to go on for a certain amount of time when the door is shut. In these health neurotic times, a mirror finish to the inside walls would enable adequate coverage of the contents…
Trump was POTUS at the time, so if you’re talking government interference then you’re talking Trump corruption.
You fool.
We could stop fiddling around and just nuke the work environment.
World class sugar hazing going on here.’
“The Dems couldnt have interfered in the election by requesting facts about Bidens shady business dealings be censored because they werent in government yet” may be the bottom of the barrel scraped through.
On those grounds then trump couldnt have led an insurrection as he was still POTUS.
Hmmm who might be more reliable, Monty Sugarman or Matt Tabbi?
mole, you are an idiot. At the time, Trump was POTUS. Biden did not hold a position in the government. You really are a moron.
and what did jellyback think the swivel eyed loon was going to do? Bow down and praise him for having no self awareness. Makes me wonder if anyone had ever taken him aside and said “listen Jelly, you’re fuck’in useless. A brain fart is just that”
Probably in the same manner the mask study was conducted.
Yes, but that isn’t my point. My point was that precisely the same problems you alleged re any mask study could be applied to any pharmaceutical study if everything had to be identical.
Not at all, I said if mask usage were as sensitive as you suggest then they would be, aside from the most limited use cases, practically useless.
Cohenite:
And there you have it in a nutshell.
There’s no other way out of the mess – the Constitution has been well and truly torn up. The FF never realised just how corrupt the system could get and here we are.
Not sure just what we can do in the other Democracies.
I’m a little surprised no enterprising refrigerator designer hasn’t developed a UV light to go on for a certain amount of time when the door is shut.
That would rather f*ck up the bouquet of the rosé, Winston
Monty, consider this.
An Aussie and a Yank aid worker are helping out at the site of a volcanic eruption on a South Sea Island. The Yank says, “You from round here, buddy?” “No” he replies; “Victoria”. “What State’s that in?” asks the Yank. “Pretty much the same as this fuckin’ place”, he replies.
—
“Your Honour, I want to bring to your attention to how unfair it is for my client to be accused of theft. He arrived in New York City a week ago and barely knows his way around. What’s more, he only speaks a few words of English”. The Judge looked at the defendant and asked him, “How much English can you speak?” The defendant looked up and said, “Give me your wallet!”
True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us.
– Socrates
I’m not opposed to standing or laches type arguments per se, but when they are applied in such a manner as to deny any hearing they are clearly being abused. For instance, if you denied a hearing on the ground of standing because you have not as of yet suffered any damages and asked to litigate once this occurred, and then you litigate once this occurs and then denied a hearing on the grounds of laches because you were purportedly tardy in bringing the action and should have raised this prior to having suffered damages, injustice is afoot. This is a classic ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ approach to law.
monty, monty, monty.
(Shakes head, leaves)
And now for some levity..
Just a reminder.. far too good to miss, from JC’s link at 5:54 am.
A new star: Alex Strenger
A couple of gems:
“Just look at who they’re letting back on to Twitter OK?
Andrew Tate, Kanye West and that Nazi journalist Savanah Hernandez..
Just look at them! They are the physical embodiment of white supremacy!”
and
“…that’s why we need to cancel Twitter! (hyperventilating x 2)..
Because a free and open internet is textbook white supremacy!
It’s worse than the Holocaust!
It’s even worse than January 6!”
World Championship trolling.. brilliant!!
The Bill to introduce a referendum on the Voice has entered Parliament. I note, with curiosity, Schedule 11:
So no money will be spent for the “yes” or “no” campaigns:
So I ask then, why is it only a “temporary suspension” of spending money on both sides of the campaign if that style is now “outdated?”
The insurrection was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the POTUS-elect.
The tweets were prior to the election.
You are really, really bad at this stuff, mole. You should probably give up while you are way, way behind.
This did not happen.
Sure, if camels were purple, Trump wins. Camels are not purple.
Okay, bullet point examples of both and describe how they are the same.
So if “pamphleting” is not old and outdated, as per Labor’s reasons for not sending all voters a pamphlet that shows “no” and “yes” sides of the Voice, I guess we won’t be receiving any promotional Labor material at election time?
Matrix Transform:
Excellent stuff, MT.
Ta.
Wodger:
That’s if you were allowed into the pub. Which I wasn’t, and am still dirty about.
On those grounds then trump couldnt have led an insurrection as he was still POTUS.
The insurrection was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the POTUS-elect.
One is still “the government’ up until the handover of power sugar boy.
It was a facile response to your incredibly facile “The dems didnt pressure Twitter to bury the bunter hiden story” deflection you poorly programmed turing machine.
Yes so let’s just re-elect the mongs that inflicted this. The Hun:
A third of Melburnians say lives are “much worse” than before the pandemic.
The latest Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia poll, out on Monday, reveals that 33.1 per cent of Melburnians reported feeling much worse off – almost double the national average.
The survey, which has for the first time measured the true effects of Covid-19 on people’s lives, showed Melbourne was the hardest hit area, reporting lower satisfaction than anyone else in the state or country.
While 16.9 per cent of Australians said their lives were much worse as a result of the pandemic, 21.7 per cent of Victorians in urban areas said the same.
Young people showed a stark deterioration in mental health, while students in government schools were worse affected than those in Catholic or private schools.
Researchers say this trend would rise in coming years because this HILDA survey was carried out in 2020 – before Victoria endured an another 200 consecutive days of lockdown in 2021.
The University of Melbourne’s Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research deputy director Roger Wilkins said mental health and financial effects were magnified in Victoria.
“We had a higher rate of job loss, higher rates of people being stood down and we saw more people seeking to suspend their mortgage or rent, so we saw a bigger rise in unemployment in Victoria,” Prof Wilkins said.
“Young people disproportionately suffered from the economic effects of the lockdowns, they were more likely to lose their jobs and a much higher proportion of them experienced a deterioration in their mental health.”
As 45 per cent of Australians said their lives changed for the worse, strong household income growth continued, and median incomes rose by $4519.
The report noted that Jobkeeper, the largest welfare scheme in the nation’s history, was partially responsible for this increase.
Research fellow Dr Esperanza Vera-Toscano said the extent of the pandemic’s effects on people, particularly schoolchildren who studied remotely, would continue to emerge.
“When we do the analysis for 2021, the deterioration is going to be larger,” she said.
Taylors Hill mother Evette Hadzisavas said her family restricted their discretionary purchases during the lockdowns while Zoe, 15 and Christian, 9, studied online.
“The kids were really excited to go back to school, and this year we allowed for the bare minimum, but next year I’d like to see them improve,” she said.
It seems a lifetime ago, but I seem to recall that the whole Brittnee wuz Raipt thing started its life as a hit piece to prove that the Liberals had (again) a problem with women, and that it was all part of a rape culture that presumably permeated the party.
Obvious nonsense only a j’ismist would believe could be sold as credible. You could wring every man in the Libs over a bucket like an old washerwoman doing the clothes and you might, just might, get a single drop of testosterone all together. They don’t even have the beta-male’s desire to become an alpha-male. I think they only get erections if there is a good story about them in the paper.
Perhaps those Melbournibad people should get a job with Transport NSW. Daily Telegraph:
Hundreds of Transport bureaucrats dined on confit salmon and beef goulash as part of a “planning and development” day at the Hyatt Regency, with thousands of dollars of public money spent on a post-event bar tab at the hotel’s rooftop bar.
An urgent investigation into the planning day – and the post-event drinks function – has now been launched following inquiries from The Daily Telegraph. The Telegraph understands that those responsible for putting on the bar tab could find their jobs on the line.
It comes after a horror year in which Sydney’s trains recorded the worst on-time running record in four years and motorists have been plagued by pothole-filled roads.
Staff from Transport for NSW’s “Customer Strategy and Engagement Branch” spent an entire day at the five-star Sydney hotel discussing what the agency had achieved, a whistleblower told The Daily Telegraph.
As part of the event, public servants were tasked with recreating the Sydney Harbour Bridge out of aluminium foil, marshmallows and dried pasta. The whistleblower said staff were told that the activity was to “activate our right brains”.
It was described as an “end of year team bonding” exercise.
About 200 people attended the staff planning day. On one estimate, the event could have cost as much as $20,000 – at $100 per head.
Transport for NSW failed to disclose the cost.
In an email to staff, the venue – a function room at the Hyatt Regency – was described as “pretty charming with a view over Darling Harbour”.
The post-event drinks function was held at the Hyatt Regency’s Zephyr rooftop bar, with staff asked in a separate email to confirm their attendance “so we have a clearer understanding of how many people the venue will be able to accommodate”.
“It was probably money and time better spent elsewhere,” the Transport whistleblower said.
Infrastructure Minister Rob Stokes, who is the lead Minister for the Transport cluster, slammed the event as “unacceptable”.
He has demanded a please explain, vowing that there will be consequences.
“This event wasn’t appropriate. Spending taxpayers’ money on a bar tab is totally unacceptable and completely out of line with public expectations,” he told the Telegraph.
“Immediately after hearing about this incident, I directed Transport for NSW to launch an urgent investigation as to how this happened, and to inform me of what action they intend to take to hold those responsible to account.”
A Transport for NSW spokesman said the investigation will “urgently” probe “the purchase of alcohol with public funds at a post-function gathering”.
“If taxpayer funds were used to purchase alcohol, then the Department will not hesitate to take strong action.”
Bespoke:
Yes. I understand that. I was being a little sarcastic.
Silica being inhaled has been around for years since the Romans and Greeks as stonemasons.
Beach sand also grinds down to these fine particles – not that makes any difference to an ambulance chaser or a bureaucrat looking to expand their horizons.
My point is silicosis is not the issue – it is the excuse for expansion of control in the workplace.
Fare enough, Robert.
Walli Dali:
What sort of idiot keeps their roses in a fridge, Walli?
🙂
Oh. OK – Cadbury’s Roses.
I must admit I’ve never thought of using ‘Cadbury Roses’ & ‘bouquet’ in the same sentence…
🙂 ^2
The drove in question, Three thousand miles, should have taken 200 days.
Yet it took roughly One Thousand days.
How can this be? Could it be you don’t know what you’re talking about?
At least the Bowen/King brainfart is starting to draw the robber barons, blinking into the day-light.
Qld to seek coal, gas cap compensation
Read the last sentence again: the Palacechook will “oppose any intervention that hits the profits of public-owned coal power plants”.
At the moment Kogan Creek, Tarong, and Tarong North power stations are making a motza. All owned by Palacechook; all with low-cost captive coal mines also owned by Palacechook; all selling electricity at eye-watering marginal prices set by gas.
These people are filth.
While 16.9 per cent of Australians said their lives were much worse as a result of the pandemic, 21.7 per cent of Victorians in urban areas said the same.
Note the innumerate moron’s device of providing figures to one decimal place, to give the impression of precision, while not mentioning other important details, in order to provide true accuracy and context:
Such as: what TOTAL %age said their lives were worse (much, slightly, just, etc..).
Or, what %age did NOT say their lives were worse?
All one can conclude from this cack-filled abortion of a report is that there was a “difference ” between rural and city people.
And it certainly doesn’t explain why the sheeples voted for more of the same fuck-me-harder-daddy Government that rogered them so lovingly.
The thesis of the Trumpeters is that their leader’s case for re-election was so weak that it would fail unless randoms on Twitter (plus James Woods) were allowed to post dick pics of Hunter Biden. If that has been allowed, Trump would have won and manna would have fallen from heaven.
I laugh in your general direction.
Sure, I don’t know, which is why I checked your assertion against two independent sources I quoted. You found to be wrong again. I checked because you’re a lying piece of shit or you’re just wrong. In either case you lie after being caught out.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 2:47 pm
On those grounds then trump couldnt have led an insurrection as he was still POTUS.
The insurrection was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the POTUS-elect.
m0nty=fa
How many of the January 6 people have been charged with the crime of Insurrection?
How many have been convicted of that crime, and sentenced?
Even one as stupid as you should be able to understand the significance of these questions.
Your just fending off a burden here, JC. If you want to argue that they are different, bullet point examples of both and how they are different. And not hypotheticals, I want you to investigate the methods sections of the masking paper and then any well-known pharma paper and tell me how they are different in the relevant sense.
Mutley that’s low energy trolling, when’s your next prostate massage, seems to liven you up a bit.
Robert Sewell says:
December 5, 2022 at 3:06 pm
My point is silicosis is not the issue – it is the excuse for expansion of control in the workplace.
Correct.
Silicosis causes symptomatic lung dysfunction in extreme cases only, such as years of breathing silicate dust in a heavily dusty, poorly ventilated mining environment, without PPE. This hasn’t been the occupational reality in Australia for 50+years.
Asbestosis is far more damaging, but again, OH&S measures dealt with limiting exposure to asbestos fibre back in the 1960s, after the problems at the Wittenoon and Barraba mines.
Given a fraction of a chance, unions will eventually succeed in killing mining in Australia.
Sure, I’m “fending off a burden” as I really can’t be bothered to go through it especially after you doubted what I said and therefore makes it incumbent on you to show why they’re the same.
Tell me, how would you even begin to devise a double blind study that you can falsify?
Dover, I said it can’t be done. You said it can, yet you want me to prove your argument – that it can be done? Surely, you’re not being serious.
dover0beach says:
December 5, 2022 at 2:09 pm
Dover, how do you think (excluding Covid) pharma studies are conducted?
Probably in the same manner the mask study was conducted.
I have pretty much lost confidence in publications in medical journals. Big Pharma appear to finance much of the research. This is but one criticism, and there have been a lot more in recent years:
https://www.sciencealert.com/how-much-top-journal-editors-get-paid-by-big-pharma-corrupt
were allowed to post dick pics of Hunter Biden
Anyone want to guess what Montys screen saver/ background is?
Still more interesting how Labor won’t fund the “yes” and “no” campaigns because letter-boxing is outdated? (S11 of the Referendum Bill’s Explanatory Memorandum states it is outdated form of communication).
But:
1) Who said anything about letter-boxing?
2) Only six years ago the Gubberment gave $15M to both sides of SSM debate. Most used it on online and TV ads – not letterboxing. Only six years ago but now “outdated?”
This tells me Labor must be shitting themselves that they are going to lose the referendum.
This is a lawsuit worth watching.
https://dnyuz.com/2022/12/04/defamation-suit-against-fox-grows-more-contentious/
Lysander says: December 5, 2022 at 2:44 pm
Temporary because the WEF and renewable energy policies mean we will be back to using paper and carrier pigeons by 2025.
The height of absurdity was reached when you could sit at a table in a pub with however many people were permitted and have a gabfest but you had to put your mask on to get up and go to the bar and order a drink.
One one occasion when in a shopping centre with my wife and daughter we were walking past a cafe that had no walls or any other barrier into the shopping centre. The people in the cafe were without masks yet those of us walking past, required masks.
This seemed to be a good ‘teaching moment’. So, I sidestepped into the cafe and removed my mask then, sidestepped back into the shopping mall and replaced my mask. Back and forth three or four times to the hilarity of my wife/daughter and bemusement of those in the cafe.
In accordance with the rules the people in the cafe were seated but it was nonetheless a demonstration of the utterly ridiculous mask rules. Not to mention the overwhelming majority of people, in any setting, were wearing surgical masks which are next to useless for reasons well known.
The United States seems to be sending a message to its adversaries and also to its allies. For the very first time ever, a US Navy’s nuclear-powered submarine was reported to have docked at a remote Indian Ocean Island as a part of an extended month-long deployment.
3 different in-voice stories on their ABCcess radio national before lunch.
All 3 positive or of the “who could oppose this glorious new day”
Unsure when they were playing the “other side” stories/interviews
Catturd ™
@catturd2
Yep – this is what being a tyrant does to you.
I had a double take to even realise the first picture was of her.
Happened in PA, for instance.
Bernardi has a free 256-paged tome on his website called The Conservative Revolution.
Have a read a bit and looks good.
Droving cattle has to take in a heck of a lot more than just distance. The average distance covered by cattle is actually 7-10 miles a day. You also have to take into account the seasons. You can push the cattle a bit harder in Autumn and Spring as the weather generally allows for easier travelling. In Summer you obviously don’t want to be travelling during the hottest part of the day. Most people who have never moved cattle don’t know about factoring in grazing time, watering and also the time cattle need to be off their feet to enable them to chew their cud.
You also have to be aware of poisonous plants, rough country, lack of feed and water, to name a few.
There are also designated “rest” days. You cannot push any beast relentlessly and expect it to turn up at the end of the trip in good nick.
Then there are the horses and the wagons etc. Time off had to be allowed for shoeing horses, fixing gear, hunting for the pot, and resting the horses. Droving in the 1800’s was not done with utes and caravans as they are now. Horses were critical to the success of any cattle operation in the early days. In many parts of Australia they still are. Many other things too numerous to cover.
Reading accounts of cattle drives is fine, but unless you have actually been on a few, voicing an opinion is a useless exercise.
Although travelling “the long paddock”, is a thousand times easier now than in the 1840’s, it is still fraught with many of the same problems that were faced back then.
And yes, I speak from experience.
dover0beachsays:
December 5, 2022 at 4:01 pm
This did not happen.
Happened in PA, for instance.
Don’t spoil with mere facts the DemonRat “narrative” that m0nty=fa is so busy promulgating.
“Mutley that’s low energy trolling, when’s your next prostate massage, seems to liven you up a bit.”
Is he a meat puppet as well?
The clearest sign yet that Twitter has become a publisher and not a platform?
Nothing yet from m0nty=fa about the numbers of January 6 people convicted and sentenced for (unarmed) insurrection.
Shirley his daily DemonRat Talking Points would include a running total?
Reminds me of the transformation of Gollum.
The Lieborals are like some dumb Labrador that follows you home. They deserve to be kicked.
Indolent et al:
Regarding the nose wiping/face brushing video – was there ever an explanation given for this bizarre performance?
WWBGTS – (What Would Be Good To See) is compulsory drug testing on the Parliament, their staffers, and the the top echelons of the bureaucracy.
Surely if it’s good enough for us, then it should be good enough for them?
Something has got to explain the quality of the decision making, implementation and advice coming from the administrators of the Nation because I’ve seen more rational policies coming from a drug fucked picnic than this.
I’ll suggest it to Our Pauline…
What a stupid comment.
Name those independent sources.
You’ve never moved cattle in your life. I was doing it from before I can remember, certainly by 3yo.
I’ve moved cattle everywhere from trips from the Barkly to the Channels, to simple one-week long trips down in inside country.
I’ve never moved cattle through the long paddock. I have some fucking idea. You got anything more than “I read it online somewhere”?
Stay in your lane.
LOL!
From the Daily Mail;
Australian expat attending the FIFA World Cup in Qatar explains the Aboriginal flag to locals: ‘They are the Palestinians of Australia’
A spectator at the World Cup has given locals a lesson on the Aboriginal flag
He compared history of Indigenous Australians to Palestinians in Middle East
Duncanm, the virus is altitude sensitive.
Everyone knows this.
Belieb da science!
Basically an admission of defeat. An Albo tick-a-box exercise for the next election.
Clancy of the Overflow has entered the chat.
Good grief! Ardern is Gollum!
Preciousssssssss!
Do we know he are?
where he are
FFS
Interesting post, thank you Pogria. My late uncle first “went droving” out of Alice Springs in 1947.
Or you could go outside and shout at pigeons or clouds. And enjoy some fresh air and sun.
I reckon SHY would be stimulant free.
All I see is the vision splendid. Left the dusty dirty city behind last week.
A message was sent to where we’d met him years ago on the Lachlan river, & an answer came back saying “We don’t know where he are, he said he was going to Queensland”
JC, the fact that I expressed any doubt doesn’t shift the burden on to me. You initially cast doubt on the efficacy of the mask study but never managed to show how a mask study is different to any other study that would have its own variables, which those engaging in the study would be aware of and would need to account for if they were significant.
I never asked you to prove my argument, I asked you to simply substantiate yours. Leaving that aside, what are you actually asking here? You argued that a host of variables made testing the efficacy of masks impossible. You based this on the argument that in order to be able to test efficacy we would have to control the parameters you mentioned. Again, it’s not clear why this is necessary if you can’t control these parameters in practice. In other words, outside of limited use cases, we want to know their efficacy when used by the general public. Nothing you’ve raised actually indicates that a study cannot test the efficacy of masks in either narrow use cases where the staff are highly trained and disciplined in their usage or at the opposite end. BTW, I’m not sure how these studies are not falsifiable in theory or practice.
The Australian Wars on SBS needs a bit of rejigging.
African youths meet up on St Kilda beach and a couple get stabbed, one fatally. The delights of multi cultural migration.
Australian politicians are completely free from performance enhancing substances.
That must be obvious.
Pogriasays:
December 5, 2022 at 4:12 pm
From memory they had a couple of properties towards the end of the run to fatten up/ get saleable the stock.
I recall one being near Northampton or Mullewa in WA.
Move stock for a few months, fatten them up or get them back in condition for the next leg of the trip.
There was nothing but an infrequent exchange of letters until 1968, when he turned up “Down South” – manager of a certain cattle station, married to the station governess, with family in tow.
Droving is basically camping with cows. Not my cup of tea but good luck to others.
They can count on the likes of the ABC, the public service pinning up posters, businesses wanting to win government contracts proving that they have the right kind of thinking, virtue signalling from businesses not desperate for government contracts, small businesses like cafes wanting to avoid scenes with customers who demand everyone they meet agree with them, and HR departments filled with ‘soft-science’ graduates with the substance of an algal film but desperate to pretend their disciplines are, in their way, as rigorous and ineluctable as mechanical engineers and accountants.
Government is a colossus, and what it does not control directly it controls with a nod that everyone understands is a command beyond any hope of appeal. It just so happens that only progressives will use it so because they think that is what government is for.
How Mainstream Media is Destroying the United States of America
From Armstrong Economics –
“It is becoming clear day by day why the mainstream media has been so against Elon Musk buying Twitter for as they say in law enforcement, there is a “Blue Code” where cops do not rat on cops and the same is true about judges. Mainstream media is so LEFT it has forgotten how to walk a straight line. They are no longer the free press – they are propaganda organizations for the takeover of our country and in the process, they will cause civil war and the collapse of Western culture. The Biden Administration clearly violated the law by telling Twitter to delete photos of Hunter smoking crack cocaine which anyone else would be in prison.
The chaos and confusion behind closed doors at Twitter in the immediate aftermath of the October 2020 surface of Hunter Biden’s Laptop from Hell, has exposed that the very top-level execs at Twitter decided to label the New York Post’s story as “hacked material” without any evidence — behind the back of then-CEO and founder Jack Dorsey. Historically, those on the LEFT have always done whatever it takes to win for their very basic philosophy is to dominate society and to shut down all resistance.”
Much more at the following Web Link –
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/press/how-mainstream-media-is-destroying-the-united-states/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
This is worth a read.
1901 protector of Aboriginals in WAs report.
https://aiatsis.gov.au/sites/default/files/docs/digitised_collections/remove/73082.pdf
I finally find out WHY the authorities stuck town limits on Aboriginals.
Spoiler: it wasnt to genocide them.
Heres a bit of his report for Broome.
To G. 8. Olivey, Esq., Broome, Inspector of Aborigines.
In complying with your request of reporting on the
aborigines in the Broome district, I beg to state as
follows:—
Condition.—The natives throughout the district during
the last four years have degraded, physically and morally,
to such extent that they almost became useless, except
living on the proceeds of their women earned through
prostitution, and many offcasts are now to be found in a
state of semi-starvation, if not relieved by the Aborigines
Department.
The tribal laws and customs have been anulled through
the natives coming into constant contact with Asiatics;
where in former days old men had the young women, who
supported them through hunting, to-day most women are
in the hands of the young men and boys (who by tribal
law are not entitled to them), having stolen them from
their rightful owners by brute force, leaving the old to
fossick for themselves, whilst the young men, with their
so-procured women, follow up the pearling boats or go into
Broome (where there is a great demand for them), a distance
of from 100 to 150 miles, trading their women, aged
from 10 to 40 years, to all comers for prostitution, and
thus make a living in ease and laziness.
…
Remedy.—The only way, I think, this state of affairs
could be improved is to keep the natives away from town
and creek where boats are calling for water, and prohibit
any person from cohabiting with natives, as at present the
police have no power to do anything ; and, further, it should
not be lawful for any coloured man to employ natives.
I am sure if the natives are kept away from these
harbours of debauchery they will again improve, and no
support be needed for any of them; but if no steps be
taken to amend this state of affairs, instead of relieving 31
in the district the number will increase to 100 in a very
short time, as all the offcasts will fall on the Aborigines
Department for support. The approximate number of
natives now loafing in Broome district, and mostly living
on prostitution, is as follows:—Whistler’s Creek and La
Grange Bay, 450; Broome, 300; Beagle Bay, 150; King
Sound, Cygnet Bay, 200. Out of above, 300 are young
men and boys, 150 under age and old men, and the
balance (550) women and children.
Venereal Diseases have now a solid footing, and cause
great damage. Gonorrhoea and internal gonorrhoea (the
latter most damaging to natives) and syphilis have also a
footing, with a great variety of Eastern skin diseases raging
throughout the district; and I have no doubt that venereal
will stamp the race out of existence in the course of only a
short time.
No doubt about it.
There were two aspects to the “censorship” discussed in the Twitter Files.
First, there was the deletion of posts nominated by the Biden and Trump camps
Dickless lies. Trump never asked for any censorship. Rather the 2 aspects were:
Demorats lying about Trump which is positive censorship; and secondly the demorats lied about:
1 Hillary and obuma’s bugging of Trump’s Whitehouse and framing of Vice Admiral Flynn
2 The Russia Dossier
3 Russia connections with the demorats
4 Joe’s treason in using his positions, senator, VP and POTUS to sell advantage to Russians, the chunks, Ukraine and the ME
5 Joe and Hunter’s sexual perversions
6 Joe’s dementia
7 Demorat collusion with big tech
8 Hunter’s laptop
9 All lefties having no dicks
Um… er… ah…. erm…. um…. When does the ‘camping’ part take place?
A few days mustering and some yard work during the school holidays was enough pastoral bliss for the year.
it’s not stupid at all to show what a psychopathic liar you are.
Google them. Copy the excepts i posted and enter both in a google search.
Lol. You were moving cattle at 3 years old and owning cattle stations at 5.You dishonest grub.
So what? Both quotes suggest your 10 miles walk is either 50% or 100% below those estimates. Don’t give the lived experience routine as you know it doesn’t work
I read three comments online. Yours and the other two. They say you’re either wrong or lying as you’re 50% or 100% out. I know who I’ rather believe.
If you remained in your lane you wouldn’t be allowed to ever post here, you drunken liar.
Now fuck off and stop lying.
Brave.
Said re the US by Zipster.
I hate to be a bore on this subject, but US politics and elections have been irremediably corrupt from the get-go, and the slavering anticipation of some for a bloodbath is unseemly, to say the least, and unsavoury to boot.
The US is not Australia. Their politics operate at a much higher temperature, always have. Those who slaver for a bloodbath in the form of civil war or insurrection are just like kids who think that video games are like reality. They have no idea (and care not) about the death and maiming and general destruction – nor about what it would do to the balance of power in world politics. This is the politics of Antifa and other childish groups who just want to destroy. A lot of Marxists were keen on this kind of thing as well, especially the younger ones.
Pre-dawn in the dairy bales making sure there was deliciousness in the troughs and then onto the shovel for the other end.
Jerseys, fortunately. Well behaved, just stay out of the way of the bulls. Horrid creatures. Then back for the afternoon shift.
Holidays are such fun!
Beware!
The danger is real. 😀
Pogria,
And add dodgy bastards that you meet on the track.
Jackals.
Dover, if you have an issue with what I said, which you did, then it’s up to you to show where I’m wrong.
If you’re not sure how such a study could be falsifiable then what are you actually arguing about? I’ll ask again, how would you create a double blind test for mask wearing efficacy under Popper’s principle? I wouldn’t know where to begin, which is why I asked that if you believe it’s falsifiable then show us how.
Cooking rack of lamb tonight. The fragrance of rosemary basted in sheep fat it wafting through the house.
Just thought I’d get your digestive juices going.
Bother.
The G&T made a typo.
Yep. Most guys get driven into town each night for a parma, beer and hot shower each night. Beginning to think JC might be onto something.
Speculation of a civil partitions are also fanciful.
What’s the interest rate on the mortgage for the rack of lamb, Callie.
I might have struggled at the interview stage at The Bulletin circa 1860.
Lol bons. I confess, it was disinterred from the bottom of the freezer yesterday.
An Aldi Special Buy.
I will report back on its quality in due course. The cook has done her best.
Frozen pies
#sadface
Lower case ‘D’ dems did, they are the D-voting Twitter employees who suppressed links to the story.
Upper case ‘D’ Democrats party members… well Taibbi said so far he has not seen evidence of that happening.
Either Taibbi is your source, or Taibbi is not your source. Picking and choosing which (summary) statements from him to believe and not believe based on your foregone preferences is not a credible form of argument.
I also suspect the Dems (uppercase) communicated their preferences over the story’s circulation to their Twitter buddies, but without “the receipts” (as they say) this is only hypothesis.
Musk has since said that one way the release of The Twitter Files can be improved is to post more source documents along with the narrative. This should make it easier for people to interpret the documentary sources as evidence of particular shenanigans, moving them beyond the level of hypothesis.
Also Elon responds to m0nty here 🙂 https://youtu.be/cJiw_VpnGgk?t=4749
Mr Musk appears persuaded by the Twitter Files that (quote) “Frankly, Twitter was acting like an arm of the Democratic National Committee.” He says this in the context of events that occurred in the leadup to the 2020 election. However I do not recall him saying specifically that the Democrats were explicitly instigating all of these requests. His first explanation is that the Dems’ groupthink was endemic in the Twitter staff, such that no specific commands were needed for Twitter to help them out. Yet in an earlier part of the discussion he says “the level of collusion was insane”, which definitely implies two different parties working together.
So I think Taibbi was okay to hold back from making a specific Dems collusion claim if he had not seen anything to support it. But that was yesterday and Musk has seen the lot and is today characterising the evidence as above. Until we get the actual sources, Musk is a better source than Taibbi. It was collusion, that’s the word he used.
Did you read that in Breitbart or Gateway Pundit, LOL.
Waltzing Mathilda today. Jolly jumbuck time. Just stuff it in your tuckerbag.
Heh. My forebears were transported for thieving. Venison.
And cloth.
Hmm, let’s go to the Twitter Files…
You are extremely bad at this, cohenite. You keep falling flat on your face.
Would the amount of censorship be a product of how much it was sought?
There may not be symmetry in the requests and execution.
Droving is basically camping with cows
Kevin Costners poor received follow up to Dancing with wolves?
Still better than Cow creek
Or silence of the cows.
It’s not that Labor think the Voice referendum will fail miserably, I think they believe it cannot fail so why waste money on it and give the No option publicity. They probably want to say later how they were fiscally responsible.
Besides, as has been pointed out, why spend public money when every corporation is falling over themselves to push the Yes option.
go on monster, complete that quote:
oh.. and here’s a Trump request
The split (donations to party by twitter employees) in 2022 was 99.7 democrat
I did.
Umm, I never said I wasn’t sure whether a mask study was falsifiable, I said I wasn’t sure how they weren’t. There is simply nothing about the usage of masks that could not be tested. All this talk about falsifiability is beside the point anyway. If someone wanted to test whether mask usage was efficacious within a broad range of circumstances by the members of the public they would simply conduct a test within those range of circumstances involving members of the public that had been taught basic mask usage. You could compare them with a group that wore no mask or a group that wore a sub-standard mask and use the later as a placebo. And then you could just compare the rates of infection, transmission, between those who were masked and close contacts. The entire point of the study is to determine whether or not masks work in those circumstances, and there is nothing about such a study that is unfalsifiable.
Ha, Driller claims he was droving cattle at three years of age. Americans have Kevin Costner. We have Salvator Costner – the one time three year old cowboy.
Looks like I’ll have to cancel Christmas. The teevee adverts tell me lunches have to resemble a Benetton advert. Mum will be disappointed.
m0ntysays:
December 5, 2022 at 5:34 pm
Happened in PA, for instance.
Did you read that in Breitbart or Gateway Pundit, LOL.
Is that the best that the daily DemonRat Talking Points could come up with? LOL.
The Andrews gov has just announced ministers and dept changes.
Agriculture is being moved into the new department, DEECA – Department of Environment, Energy and Climate Action
Does this mean we could be heading for Netherland style restrictions on farming to save the environment?
Also, with public servants be gluing themselves to great artworks?
Actually, watching a two part series on Harry Houdini at present.
…
Interesting bloke. He used to invite people to punch him in the stomach to show how strong he was.
He was also a Spook.
Saying you don’t understand my claim is not showing where you believe I’m wrong. Telling isn’t showing.
How would you create a placebo in mask testing keeping in mind you have to maintain all the other variables at exactly the same as in the non-placebo test?
Thanks for admitting I was right.
It’s not that Labor think the Voice referendum will fail miserably, I think they believe it cannot fail so why waste money on it and give the No option publicity.
Are you fucking serious?
What a stupid comment.
You are extremely bad at this, cohenite. You keep falling flat on your face.
Only dickless people can fall flat on their faces dickless.
Give us an example of Trump demanding censorship of anything and we’ll award you an honorary dick.
Agreed , but it’s more than that.
But it more than stupid. It borders on psychopathic dishonesty. It’s also insulting our intelligence, but being a stupid loser, you really wouldn’t be able to know better.
Driller, you’re an abomination of our species.
Pre-dawn in the dairy bales
It’s called a Cow Bail by people who have actually been in one.
learn to cookOther way around. They figure if it is advertised there will be blowback. The resentment of the aboriginal industry is pretty deep in the suburbs, but it they can keep it at the shallowest possible level they figure they can get it up.
If there was the slightest benefit by chucking money at the yes case the floodgates would be opened. It’s not their money after all, it’s ours. But the likes of ATSIC and Thorpe, Langton and other loud and obnoxious black armbanders, plus land councils claiming everything they can get away with, have made it dangerous to call attention to this issue. Which is why Jacinta Price is doing so.
Legend!
Jordan Peterson explaining how he avoids left wing protestors when he speaks on campus.
I think Kevin Costner would be more Brokeback Mountain than Dances with Wolves.. Which reminds me I must follow up my Australia Council grant application for an Australian adaptation starring Warren Entsch.
It’s called a Cow Bail by people who have actually been in one.
The mystery of where ed-Mong gets his Ed-facts from is solved.
The only remaining question wide mouth or grain shovel for maximum content?
Sal saying he was droving by the age of three is not unusual. Country kids were pulling their weight on the farm by three or four. They still are. You only have to check out the Cattle or Sheep pavilions at any of our Royal shows to see children barely past toddler stage leading calves and sheep to mum and dad. Also getting hay and helping with the grooming.
That’s just how it is.
you’re an abomination of our species.
The abominable cowman?
‘Zero Tolerance’: Suspension Rate Nearly Doubles For Twitter Accounts Exploiting Child Sex Abuse Material
We didn’t have many 3yo in the yards. They couldn’t reach the gates. They would have if they could get around that issue.
Become a PHON candidate in NSW and fight dicklessness everywhere!
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General Public Unaware of Push to Normalize Pedophilia in Culture and Academia: Counselor
I reckon so.
Where does this leave Albanese’s promise that Australia would feed the world?
JC has moved plenty of cattle over the years. Mostly from one side of his plate to the other.
Study: Hey, these offshore wind farms aren’t good for the ecosystem
Maxine Waters’ Disgusting Suck up to Sam Bankman-Fried Receives an Even More Disgusting Response
The Liars really hate farmers. They aren’t even pretending now.
Progia
How those activities you mention an example of a 3 year old kid driving cattle for 15/2o miles a day on a horse?
Hunter gathering is where it’s at.
I did show where I thought you were wrong, back here and elsewhere.
You give the placebo group a mask that you think is considerably below par. And, again, these “other variables at exactly the same as in the non-placebo test” do not need to be maintained because they do not need to be maintained even within each group. What needs to be maintained are the conditions that are going to obtain in each use case, whether it’s in a surgical setting, in an office space, in a residential dwelling, or the like because that is what you are testing; namely, the efficacy of masking in each use case.
I Accidentally Interviewed SBF And He Hated It
Dan’s going to be such a drag on Eblow’s government he may have to be rolled internally.
I don’t think anyone in the VIC ALP caucus would strongly object.
No it’s unnatural, Matrix.
I dont know if this is pure pizzagate pandering by a clever chap, or part of something real.
Only 1/2 way through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1y38N4LQiU
Selling kids for brothel/spare parts in Eastern Europe.
Indolentsays:
December 5, 2022 at 6:11 pm
‘Zero Tolerance’: Suspension Rate Nearly Doubles For Twitter Accounts Exploiting Child Sex Abuse Material
Why am I not surprised that all those DemonRat supporting Twatter staff had been less than vigorous in policing such material? Good to see Musk stepping up the pace.
Constitutional recognition, a Voice to Parliament, and a treaty will solve all the problems, surely?
He’s shaping up to be one of the more ghastly creatures in the Lefty firmament.
To start with he’s a loud and proud vegan. Then it goes downhill from there.
Ten miles. You try to keep up twenty miles for more than one day, or with weaker cattle, & see how you go. Where the farq do you get this “Twenty miles a day” from?
3yo hangs on for dear life to a monkey grip atop a tired old pensioner (sometimes on a lead behind a grown-up’s horse) & pretends they’re part of the action.
If your experience has revealed a better way to bring along a 3yo with a mob of cattle, we’re all ears.