Open Thread – Weekend 3 Dec 2022


The Rector’s Garden – Queen of the Lilies, John Atkinson Grimshaw, 1877


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Rabz
December 4, 2022 8:05 pm

… as the Musk’s takeover of Twatter descends into chaos

LOL. A very lengthy “What is best in life, Conan?” moment.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2022 8:07 pm

It’s just a disgusting shit show while the country’s real problems are ignored and exacerbated. Canbra parlor games.

‘Twas always thus.

calli
calli
December 4, 2022 8:09 pm

Reynolds was informed in March of the pending legal proceedings. Her friend, Kitching, warned her of the impending storm some time earlier.

For her efforts, Reynolds threw her under the bus.

Meanwhile, the Canbra Mean Girls were on Kitching’s case and had been since forever. In March, Kitching was dead. Stories of the intolerable stress she was put under surfaced and then were disappeared.

This is a particularly horrible Canberra story involving the worst type of women imaginable. Ruthless, grasping, unsavoury, ignoble. And they don’t even wear teal.

Frank
Frank
December 4, 2022 8:10 pm

“I’m starting to favour a straight-jacket and a lot of lithium.”

Lithium makes you get fat. I think the teeth can get dodgy on it too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2022 8:15 pm

For her efforts, Reynolds threw her under the bus.

Hardly Robinson Crusoe during the SloMo era. This is why it’s hard to have much sympathy for anyone targeted by Albo’s tit for tat point scoring.

Roger
Roger
December 4, 2022 8:15 pm

This is a particularly horrible Canberra story involving the worst type of women imaginable. Ruthless, grasping, unsavoury, ignoble.

If only both major parties had quotas…

Rabz
December 4, 2022 8:15 pm

Mz Hoggins to sue Michaelia “Where’s me” Cash and Linda “I had to eat” Reynolds after the Lehrmann charges dropped due to less than zero evidence

Just when you’d hoped you wouldn’t run out of popcorn …

bons
bons
December 4, 2022 8:16 pm

It’s interesting looking over the shoulders of you Vic primary producers this season.
A complete inversion of normality. We are usually panicking about moisture levels and storms at this time of year. But this season has been exceptional. Even the last week of wierd ‘North Sea’ gales have not stopped us because the howling winds have dried up the rather paltry showers.
We expect to complete on Thursday and if the rain stays away, complete spraying in advance of the sorghum seeding by Christmas. Our only concern is paddock bunkers that we need to clear before the wet.
Strange having nothing to be anxious about.
My daughter is hinting without a hint of subletly that Dad should stay home and commune with the roses next harvest!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 4, 2022 8:19 pm

Allow your minds to ponder the nation destroying catastrophe that will be ‘The Voice’…. when they get full control of Parliament which is precisely what will happen from day 1…

+1000 Digger.

My dad an RAR Viet vet and grandfather Nth Africa & Borneo landings vet would be rolling in their graves/ashes urns. I am certain this is not what they fought for.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 4, 2022 8:30 pm

If the Japs had taken over Australia in the early 1940’s, white Australians would be their slaves and the Jap Tourist Bureau would be organising safaris for Japs to hunt “First Nations” in the wild.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 4, 2022 8:32 pm

Reynolds was informed in March of the pending legal proceedings. Her friend, Kitching, warned her of the impending storm some time earlier.
Kitching died in mysterious circumstances where nobody can get their story straight, so we can only guess as to why she gave Reynolds a heads up on The Mean Girls Senate strategy.
We do know that Albanese wasn’t sympathetic to her complaints of mistreatment.

For her efforts, Reynolds threw her under the bus.
Yeah, but you’re assuming she was doing Reynolds a favor.
You could just as easily assume Kitching was doing Lehrmann a favor, since Reynolds had been meeting him for 2 years in his job as a lobbyist.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2022 8:38 pm

… so we can only guess as to why she gave Reynolds a heads up on The Mean Girls Senate strategy.

Don’t sell yourself short Groogs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2022 8:39 pm

Seems La Brittany has decided a cool three million dollars will sooth her aching heart.

Frank
Frank
December 4, 2022 8:41 pm

Further to the talk of mean girls it seems someone has a pet reporter willing to write the following.

Julie Bishop continues to give a masterclass in how to win a break-up

Julie Bishop went above and beyond in government, now she’s going above and beyond to win the break-up.

The woman stops at nothing. Her efforts to exact revenge on ex-boyfriend David Panton after he dumped her at a restaurant in July are as pronounced as her triceps. And with those well-toned arms, she will squash him. In fact, she already kinda has.

First she banished him from Virgin’s VIP airport lounge by revoking his access to her membership. Then she got a new haircut (classic break-up behaviour). Now, she’s hitting the town with a new babe on her arm.

Wonder how much she paid to confirm her vacuity in this way. There is more at the link for those with a strong constitution.

rosie
rosie
December 4, 2022 8:43 pm

A million dollars won’t buy Higgins a house.
Let them pay her for her self inflicted pain and suffering, it won’t last long.
Just go away.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 4, 2022 8:51 pm

$3 million in Go Away money?
Done deal.
Albanese can blame Scotty and Dutton, who have got no one to blame but themselves.
Remember Dutton opining
It’s he said/she said?
That had to be straight from the cops, so he was pretty stupid to repeat it in front of witnesses.

WolfmanOz
December 4, 2022 8:52 pm

Good point raised by Bolt in his second article in The Hun re why are young 20 somethings advisors to Ministers of the Crown ie what life experience or knowledge do they have.

And in Reynolds case no wonder she was a clusterfuck as Defence Minister if these were the type of advisors being utilised.

Canberra is just one stinking cesspit of worthless scum who are running this country into the ground.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 4, 2022 8:52 pm

rosie

But it will buy her a lot of drinks, and many, many, “friends” who will be happy to drink with her and tell her how stunning and brave she is.

Until the money runs out.

Robert Sewell
December 4, 2022 8:55 pm

WallyDali:

Youngest even said “I don’t want to be judgy like you are all the time dad, but the lip-fillers and rib tatto’s are the worst so I just avoided them.”

Smart kid.
Early to wake up to the tossers.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 4, 2022 8:55 pm

And in Reynolds case no wonder she was a clusterfuck as Defence Minister if these were the type of advisors being utilised.
Higgins was hired specifically at Bruce Lehrmann’s request.
She had to have known that, and she was aware of his reputation as a total sleazebag, so she’s got no one to blame bar herself either.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 4, 2022 8:56 pm

Richard Cranium

It’s he said/she said?
That had to be straight from the cops, so he was pretty stupid to repeat it in front of witnesses.

We all realise that you are not the sharpest tool in the shed, but even a cursory glance at the story as it came out makes it quite clear that the whole thing was a “he said/she said” case.

But, given your claims to deep inside knowledge, why did you not put yourself forward as a witness, to prove her case? Your analysis of the Parly House CCTV system alone would have shocked the Court.

Rabz
December 4, 2022 8:57 pm

Until the money runs out.

Six months max? That’s if she doesn’t meet a visiting Nigerian Prince in the interim.

cohenite
December 4, 2022 9:00 pm

Higgins was hired specifically at Bruce Lehrmann’s request.
She had to have known that, and she was aware of his reputation as a total sleazebag, so she’s got no one to blame bar herself either.

Crotchless is thrusting into interesting territory. He needs to go and wash his panties.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 4, 2022 9:04 pm

Lehrmann hired her because he wanted to root her.
Doesn’t mean he did, but he did try to kiss her at work.
That’s not denied.

miltonf
miltonf
December 4, 2022 9:05 pm

Hunt and Sunak are a poisonous pair

miltonf
miltonf
December 4, 2022 9:05 pm
Robert Sewell
December 4, 2022 9:08 pm

Farmer Gez:

Albo’s socialist collective set to cap coal and gas prices.
1930’s policy delivered by a new set of Labor Luddites.

They never bloody learn, do they?
Or do they, but their aims aren’t a healthy economy.

cohenite
December 4, 2022 9:09 pm

Lehrmann hired her because he wanted to root her.
Doesn’t mean he did, but he did try to kiss her at work.
That’s not denied.

Some serious tip toeing through the tulips. Crotchless needs to take a rest.

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2022 9:13 pm

I’m watching Rowan Dean’s “The Pioneer Spirit” on Sky with three young people from different Australian cities. Based at the Fossil Farm in the Kimberley’s he takes them into the bush to recreate what the first settlers did. It’s a great concept and really interesting.

But then again, Rowan is one of the most original guys on TV.

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2022 9:14 pm

Sorry, Fossil Downs, not farm.

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2022 9:16 pm

One of the girls from Rowan’s program quipped that the fossils are the only things there that don’t bite.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2022 9:28 pm

Based at the Fossil Farm in the Kimberley’s he takes them into the bush to recreate what the first settlers did.

Fossil Downs was founded as a result of the longest cattle drive in Australia – nearly 6,000 Km from Goulburn in New South Wales.

MatrixTransform
December 4, 2022 9:33 pm

What this indicates is the near zero institutional power of the centre right

while you say that like its about politics

foucault weeps

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2022 9:33 pm

Just finished watching Rowan Dean’s program and saw in the credits that Gina Rinehart was the producer. The short, half-hour program is perfect for use in a classroom when teaching Australian history and I hope it does get used in that way.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2022 9:33 pm

Good point raised by Bolt in his second article in The Hun re why are young 20 somethings advisors to Ministers of the Crown ie what life experience or knowledge do they have.

They are playing politics thinking they are living The West Wing. Anyone with any talent is warehoused until a seat (safe or otherwise) can be found. No surprise so many former staffers found among the “professional” politician class

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2022 9:37 pm

dover0beach at 9:22 – spot on. It’s a club and you’re not a member nor do you get a vote. Even when your team is batting.

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2022 9:42 pm

H B Bear says:
December 4, 2022 at 9:33 pm
Good point raised by Bolt in his second article in The Hun re why are young 20 somethings advisors to Ministers of the Crown ie what life experience or knowledge do they have.
They are playing politics thinking they are living The West Wing. Anyone with any talent is warehoused until a seat (safe or otherwise) can be found. No surprise so many former staffers found among the “professional” politician class

You mean like that idiot Kelly O’Dwyer who was parachuted into Higgins in Victoria? Even if I was still voting Liberal I would not vote for any candidate under fifty.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2022 9:43 pm

Just finished watching Rowan Dean’s program and saw in the credits that Gina Rinehart was the producer.

From memory, Gina Rinehart brought the property from the family who had pioneered it – it had been in that family for over a hundred years.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Roger says: December 4, 2022 at 7:56 pm
What we’re seeing is the tantrum played out via lawfare.

Anyone who has been around females knows that young females, with a gargantuan sense of entitlement, who’ve never made a mark on the world, will throw such a tantrum as this, fabricate a series of lies, to ruin the lives of others, & will do it without any chance of gain for themselves.

One who believes they’ll get money from it, well she’ll be many times worse.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

From memory, Gina Rinehart brought the property from the family who had pioneered it – it had been in that family for over a hundred years.

Your memory is correct.

Cassie of Sydney
December 4, 2022 9:47 pm

“You mean like that idiot Kelly O’Dwyer who was parachuted into Higgins in Victoria? “

As bad as O’Dwyer was, her successor in Higgins, Ms Katie “I love Obama” Allen, was worse, and Allen can’t even blame the Teals for losing the seat of Higgins in May 2022, she lost Peter Costello’s former seat of Higgins to Labor.

Crossie
Crossie
December 4, 2022 9:47 pm

I was at a cemetery this afternoon and noticed three ladies sitting on chairs around one grave, very well spaced, and chatting. One even wore a mask which made me smile.

Arky
December 4, 2022 9:54 pm

Anything in this sound familiar in everyone’s experiences of the last two years?
..

Endoscopic sinus surgery has been done unnecessarily on millions of patients and wasted tens of billions of dollars.

As with many overused medical tests and procedures, ESS became popular due to a perfect storm of financial incentives, promising technology, and bad science. I present this example of overuse, not just to discourage this unnecessary operation, but because it so clearly demonstrates how well-meaning, highly-respected doctors and medical institutions can succumb to the perverse incentives in our broken health system, at the expense of patients.

The advent of sinus surgery

Otolaryngologists are constantly searching for ways to alleviate the pain of sinus infections, a condition that affects between 10 – 30% of Americans each year. Bacterial sinus infections happen when sinus passages become obstructed, bacteria multiply, and the sinus chambers fill up with pus under pressure (sorry for that imagery). These sinus infections usually clear up on their own or with antibiotics, but for the occasional resistant cases, sinus surgery is used to re-open the small air passages.

In 1985, when I was an otolaryngologist and faculty member at Northwestern University, endoscopic sinus surgery had just come to the US from Austria, and represented a great advance over older operations. Working through the nostrils with a surgical telescope, surgeons could avoid facial skin incisions, making the procedure much less invasive.

Endoscopic sinus surgery quickly became a big moneymaker for doctors, industry, and institutions. Physicians (and hospitals) could get reimbursed thousands of dollars for each surgery, instead of a small amount for antibiotics. Companies that sold instruments for sinus surgery gave courses and would loan instruments to surgeons to get them started. The procedure was advertised as being extremely safe, with famous surgeons making claims such as, “More than 2500 endoscopic ethmoidectomies have been carried out . . . without any serious complications.”

Creating an epidemic

Just as everything appeared to be going well for sinus surgery advocates, other medical advances were threatening to render sinus surgery rarely necessary. A few years into the ESS boom, otolaryngologists like myself learned to treat difficult sinus infections with antibiotics targeted against anaerobic bacteria. Shortly after that, we learned to open up the sinus passages pharmacologically with a short course of a high dose of an oral glucocorticosteroid such as prednisone. By 1995, with these two new tools, almost no one needed surgery for sinus infections.

Otolaryngologists proclaimed a new disease to justify using this operation on more patients.

But once a procedure has been taught and popularized, it is very difficult to curtail its growth (especially such a lucrative procedure like ESS). Rather than ceasing surgeries, otolaryngologists proclaimed a new disease called “chronic rhinosinusitis” (CRS) to justify using this operation on more patients. Medical experts defined CRS based strictly on symptoms like nasal obstruction, nasal congestion, and postnasal drip, allowing them to declare 10-15% of the population as being “sufferers” of CRS…

Why do highly-respected doctors and medical institutions continue to promote a procedure that is ineffective, that is based on bad science, and that causes patients harm? I know many of these doctors, and they are not bad people. But thanks to groupthink, self-delusion, a bit of arrogance, pressure to generate income for their institutions, the subconscious influence of money, adulation, and fame within the specialty, isolation caused by the hierarchical nature of the medical culture, and careers focused on caring for the most difficult cases—they know not the harm they have caused

https://rightcarealliance.org/article/endoscopic-sinus-surgery-tale-overuse/

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 4, 2022 10:01 pm

Albo’s socialist collective set to cap coal and gas prices.

After a few months fiddling with Excrl models of the the workings of a massively technically complicated industry.

I’m obviously very far from being as smart as the 20-somethings and the LLB NEM experts advising Team Albo.
Very, very far.

However, having spent 40 years with my hands on delivering coal and gas and electricity supply, and managing supply contracts, and running businesses doing these things – I tentatively suggest that the unintended consequences might be significant.

Probably wrong.
Just a thought.
Carry on.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Albo’s socialist collective set to cap coal and gas prices.

Government imposed price controls.
What could possibly go wrong?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2022 10:07 pm

Fossil Downs was founded as a result of the longest cattle drive in Australia – nearly 6,000 Km from Goulburn in New South Wales.

Fossil Downs was one station founded on cattle overlanded from New South Wales – the others were Ivanhoe and Argyll, founded by the Duracks, but I don’t know if there were any others.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

but I don’t know if there were any others.

Emmanuels.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

AFAIK the longest drive was to Fossil Downs. McDonald’s win by a whisker. (If more days in the saddle counts as a ‘win’)

Johnny Rotten
December 4, 2022 10:43 pm

Rabzsays:
December 4, 2022 at 5:12 pm
BB – do not forget that Eddles (like mUttley) has a severe case of “Bass Ackwards Syndrome” (BAS), although he is at least capable of referring to certain “controversial” superstars by their proper appellations.

err, when he’s not denouncing all and sundry as flamers or spooks.

An appropriate Spoonerism here is – He is a ‘Shining Wit’………………………

Zipster
December 4, 2022 10:49 pm

They never bloody learn, do they?
Or do they, but their aims aren’t a healthy economy.

both

Zipster
December 4, 2022 10:55 pm

The Australian Bureau of (Lies, Damned Lies and) Statistics
Australia’s mortality statistics for 2022 are worse than the ABS is admitting to, so why are they tweaking the data – and where is the investigation?

eugenics in action

Johnny Rotten
December 4, 2022 10:59 pm

Zipstersays:
December 4, 2022 at 10:55 pm
The Australian Bureau of (Lies, Damned Lies and) Statistics
Australia’s mortality statistics for 2022 are worse than the ABS is admitting to, so why are they tweaking the data – and where is the investigation?

eugenics in action

The Life Insurance Industry has a far better grasp on mortality rates than the ABS.

cohenite
December 4, 2022 11:02 pm

Good analysis of the electoral corruption in the US and why the left will never lose again:

The second thing that happened, and this is the most important. Philanthropy, primarily through the Center for Technology and Civic Life, started pouring money through educational 501(c)3s. The Mark Zuckerberg?funded C3s poured money into state and local election offices. They would give the state and election office money and say, You now need to enact these policies. In the old days, giving a government official money and telling them what to do with it was called a bribe, right? It was. It was a bribe. If I were to give money to a government official and say, you need to now do this, I would be arrested. But that is what happened all over the country to the tune of almost $600 million, according to 990 filings.

Let me show you Philadelphia. In Philadelphia, the original election budget was $9 million for the city office, according to records from the city council’s budget. Center for Technology and Civic Life gift to Philadelphia totaled $12.3 million, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer article on 8/26/20. They massively increased the Philadelphia budget; what did they do with the money?

These newly hired activists went door?to?door handing out ballots. Strangely, the ballots had what is called “undervoting” in it. They would vote for president — and nothing down below. Because after all, there was only one important election to the crowd that was funding all of this. The city employee could not wait around on the front porch to get all those dog catcher and judge races filled in. He would go door to door to door. Also in Philadelphia, they bought radio advertisement. They did a marketing campaign.

[A] county election official… was being told by the government, by the state of Virginia Election Board, “Allow ballots to come in after the election with no postmarks.” Think about that. Allow ballots to come in the mail late with no postmarks.

Dot
Dot
December 4, 2022 11:03 pm

The Life Insurance Industry has a far better grasp on mortality rates than the ABS.

How so? Do they collect their own data?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 4, 2022 11:05 pm

Beazley says marking Frontier Wars fits Charles Bean’s ‘original vision’ for memorial

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New Australian War Memorial chair Kim Beazley says commemoration of Australia’s “Frontier Wars” is consistent with “a broad interpretation” of World War I correspondent Charles Bean’s original vision for the shrine.

But the former Labor leader said the “overwhelming proportion” of the national institution would continue to be dedicated to those who served the nation in the major wars of the past century.

Days after he was appointed as head of the Australian War Memorial Council, replacing businessman Kerry Stokes, Mr Beazley told The Australian that it was his “sacred duty” to stay true to Bean’s vision, which was underpinned by law.

“(The council) has an overwhelming requirement on it to honour the memory of those who fought for Australia in wars, particularly those who … have become casualties,” he said.

Mr Beazley takes the role amid controversy over the War Memorial’s commemoration of the massacres of Indigenous Australians by early European settlers, and concerns over the scale and cost of its $550m redevelopment.

Bean’s vision was for “a ­national memorial that would commemorate what the nation had done during the war”.

Mr Beazley said the inclusion of displays depicting Australia’s Frontier Wars was in accord with that vision “

Western Australia Governor Kim Beazley has revealed what his advice would be for Prime Minister Anthony… Albanese regarding Australia’s relationship with China. “It would be put the megaphone away, keep the principles,” Mr Beazley told Sky News Australia. “And you know what, I think that’s what they’re doing.” Mr More

broad interpretation of it – but that interpretation has been in play for some time now”.

He noted historian Geoffrey Blainey was one of the first to call for Australia’s frontier violence to be depicted in the memorial, making the argument in 1979.

Much historical research had occurred since then, he said, with historian Lieutenant General John Coates identifying 33 battle sites between Indigenous Australians and early settlers.

“So in the galleries of pre-Federation or pre-Australia conflict, yes, there will be recognition,” Mr Beazley said.

He said the commemoration of the Frontier Wars would not lessen the space dedicated to honouring those who fought and died under the Australian flag.

“I think the overwhelming proportion of what is done in the memorial, is the recognition of the initial purpose – to be a place of honour for those who served the nation,” Mr Beazley said.

The recognition of alleged war crimes identified in the Brereton report would also be controversial, Mr Beazley conceded, but the memorial was committed to telling “an honest and truthful” story of the allegations exposed by Justice Paul Brereton.

But he said any changes would have to await the conclusion of ­investigations into the alleged crimes.

Mr Beazley, a former governor of Western Australia who has also served as ambassador to the US, said the current building works at the memorial – due for completion in 2028 – would create ­additional galleries and places of contemplation for veterans.

But he said the renovation would barely alter the building’s most sacred spaces – the Hall of Memory, the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the Pool of Reflection and the courtyard listing Australians killed in war.

Mr Beazley said it was the council’s responsibility to keep watch over the project to ensure the building continued to reflect its original purpose and “enhances its status even more among the Australian people”.

Of all the bullshit I’ve ever read…….

Zipster
December 4, 2022 11:09 pm

Good analysis of the electoral corruption in the US and why the left will never lose again:

The globohomo empire has a clear run to 2030, by witch stage the world will look like nothing like it does today

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 4, 2022 11:22 pm

New Australian War Memorial chair Kim Beazley says commemoration of Australia’s “Frontier Wars” is consistent with “a broad interpretation” of World War I correspondent Charles Bean’s original vision for the shrine.

“Maaaaaate, it’s what he would have wanted.” Not entirely surprising from another Republican just finished their stint as the Queen’s representative.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 4, 2022 11:23 pm

Boambee at 8.52:

it will buy her a lot of drinks, and many, many, “friends” who will be happy to drink with her and tell her how stunning and brave she is.

Until the money runs out.

100%. Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions can and will sledge Brih-nee Commando for her brazen theft of what will probably be taxpayers’ money.

But she’ll get some. Said largesse will not buy her credibility. It will, as BJohn mentioned, buy her mates.

When the cash goes – and the Chiko Roll Champion of 2022 is stupid enough to spend it on said fairweather friends and other ephemera – she’ll be living under a bridge handing out wristies for food until the next chick journalistician pens a sad story about the patriarchy failing her, yet again.

Zipster
December 4, 2022 11:30 pm

So what’s come out recently is the story is Fauci and Co didn’t just fund wuhan, they actually shared the technology to do the gain of function. What does wuhan need $600k for anyway? The chinese gov is swimming in US dollars. doesn’t make sense. No the CIA actually swapped the tech for something, we don’t know what exactly. It also turns out that mRNA tech was actively being developed by the US gov specifically as a bioweapon countermeasure. Further it turns out as suspected that they kept Trump in the dark about all of this and probably even fed him bogus intel.

The release of the virus allowed the mRNA tech to be deployed, it allowed the demonrats to steal the election and kick Trump out. It allowed the Tyrant to take Hong Kong without a shot fired. And it accelerated the roll out of WEF agenda towards 2030. a win win all around.

A lab “leak” you say?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 4, 2022 11:32 pm

C.E.W. Bean was an overly-verbose anti-Semitic swine who loathed Australia’s greatest general. This is from a piece discussing the naming of an ACT (where else?) electorate after him in 2018:

Among several new seat names, the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) this year announced the Victorian electorate of McMillan will be named for Monash and the ACT seat for Bean.

However, critics have pointed out Bean’s racism. He described Monash as a “pushy Jew”, writing, “We do not want Australia represented by men mainly because of their ability, natural and inborn in Jews, to push themselves” and attacked the “Jewish capacity for worming silently into favour without seeming to take any steps towards it”.

And:

Eden-Monaro MP Mike Kelly, a former army officer, made a submission to the AEC, arguing Bean’s anti-Semitism over much of his career makes his name a poor choice for the new electorate.

Bean “put an enormous amount of energy and time” into opposing Monash’s appointment to command the Australian Corps in 1918 “specifically for the reason that Monash was Jewish”, Kelly told The AJN.

Bean knew he carried enough clout to influence – or try to – general staff appointments, and sat in Prime Ministers’ parlours during and after the war. He may have been close to the hot fast stuff at the Western Front, but so were millions of other people.

Bean and his legacy can get fucked, and so can Beazley.

Zipster
December 4, 2022 11:40 pm

It’s not just the institutions that the woke have taken over, its also the intelligence apparatus itself, which is no longer working in the best interests of the US constitution or people but now working towards the One World Totalitarian Government WEF Agenda.

The war on Russia is thus entirely predictable and required and it is inevitable that if ukraine fails it will be escalated. NATO is already amassing troops on Bellarus border. You can’t have a One World Totalitarian Government with rogue states floating around.

Gabor
Gabor
December 5, 2022 12:11 am

miltonf says:
December 4, 2022 at 5:34 pm

Then again that might be my lurid imagination kicking in.

It was the bed lamp she was hanging onto, if I recall it right.

ents
ents
December 5, 2022 12:11 am

re Arky at 9.54pm.
The bloke you quote completed his ENT Surgery training in 1976.
This is 17 years before the advent of endoscopic (telescopic, internal, no external facial incisions) sinus surgery.
He must be at least 27 years old at the end of his training in 1976 + 46 more years to 2022 = 73years old.
Many older ENT surgeons were resentful of endoscopic sinus surgery because they had not trained in it.
This sounds like a diatribe from a surgeon who has never become proficient at ” newfangled” endoscopic surgery.
Sorry but there has been a revolution in all forms of surgery in the last 30 years.
Open, external incision surgery has largely been replaced by internal, endoscopic, minimally invasive surgery.
Dinosaurs who hold to the belief that endoscopic surgery that they have not grasped or trained sufficiently in is somehow inferior to outdated , external incisional surgery that they learned 46 years ago should not be held up as relevant.

Baba
Baba
December 5, 2022 12:17 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
December 4, 2022 at 10:31 pm
AFAIK the longest drive was to Fossil Downs.

An impressive effort considering the frontier wars were in full swing.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

An impressive effort considering the frontier wars were in full swing.

Perhaps the pale stale male McDonalds’ claim to have penetrated so far behind enemy lines was fake news.

JC
JC
December 5, 2022 2:14 am

Driller’s a frontiersman, a self-described boundary rider. Incredible history.

Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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rosie
rosie
December 5, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Johnny Rotten
December 5, 2022 4:33 am

My wife and I decided to go on an organised trip to Afghanistan, to see for ourselves what the place was like. It didn’t start well as the train we were travelling on broke down just a few miles south of the station.

We found ourselves stranded in a scary hell hole where no one around us spoke any English.

The train, and surrounding streets were full of Muslims, angry bearded types glared at us.

The wife stood out in her brightly coloured sun-dress; all the local women were draped in black head to toe, burqas.

We were extremely scared and convinced that we were in deep trouble.

Just then, Jenny our Group leader ushered us off the train and around the corner from Bankstown Station to the bus terminal, where we continued our journey safely to Sydney Airport.

Johnny Rotten
December 5, 2022 4:35 am

Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.

– Albert Einstein

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 5, 2022 5:06 am

You’re an expert on Women’s feelings now Roger?

Have a look at this. FMD

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 5, 2022 5:44 am

Davey and Bandiera might be getting a tap on the shoulder from OFCAM re their (accurate) caricature of Sunak

JC
JC
December 5, 2022 5:45 am

This is just great. He runs the rant at a perfect pitch.

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays

JC
JC
December 5, 2022 5:54 am
bespoke
bespoke
December 5, 2022 5:59 am

Mega troll

10/10

“Miner attracted persons are members of the Lgbq community”

Mater
December 5, 2022 6:15 am

However, having spent 40 years with my hands on delivering coal and gas and electricity supply, and managing supply contracts, and running businesses doing these things – I tentatively suggest that the unintended consequences might be significant.

Dr F,
+ 88 upticks

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 5, 2022 6:30 am

Millennials and Gen Z have deserted the Coalition – this could be dire for the opposition

Support for the Coalition is at historic lows among younger people according to the 2022 Australian Election Study released on Monday, which paints a dire picture for the Liberal and National parties.

Just quietly, support for Labor is pretty dodgy in this demographic too.

Green is the go.
Apparently.

So no tears for the little bastards when they inherit 1970’s Argentina.

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 6:32 am

Lol! That was perfect! Even the manic heavy breathing!

It’s the End of the World! 😀

Cassie of Sydney
December 5, 2022 6:33 am

I’m not one to believe polls at the best of time but this reminds me of the stratospheric Rudd polls in 2008 and quite frankly, I call bullshit on this…from The Oz.

Anthony Albanese on a high after year of success: Newspoll

Anthony Albanese will end the year in a commanding electoral position, posting his highest voter approval since becoming Prime Minister after declaring to have delivered on Labor’s core election commitments in the first six months of office.

The Labor leader has also ­enjoyed a surge in support as the preferred prime minister despite pressure mounting to act on ­energy prices.

An exclusive Newspoll commissioned by The Australian shows popular support for Labor also lifting after delivering controversial industrial relations ­reforms and following a week of partisan political battle over the censure motion against former prime minister Scott Morrison.

But support for minor parties and independents fell to the ­lowest level since the May ­election.

The final Newspoll survey for the year shows Labor’s primary lifting a point to 39 per cent. The previous Newspoll was conducted after the October 25 federal budget.

This is the highest level of support for Labor since before the election and is more than six points stronger than its election result of 32.6 per cent

The Coalition has made no ground over the past month, with its primary vote unchanged on 35 per cent.

This is almost a point down on its election result of 35.7 per cent but is consistent with the last period of opposition following the 2007 election loss.

However, it is four points up on the 31 per cent recorded in the September Newspoll survey which marked a 15-year low for the Liberal and Nationals ­parties.

The combined primary vote for both major parties has ­recovered to 74 per cent since ­recording the lowest on record at the May election of just 68.4 per cent.

The two-party-preferred split between the major parties was unchanged at 55-45 per cent in Labor’s favour.

The Greens have also failed to recover ground with an ­unchanged primary vote of 11 per cent – which is two points down on its post election high of 13 per cent posted in August.

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation remains the dominant right-wing minority party on 6 per cent of the vote compared to Clive Palmers’s United Australia Party – which has since been deregistered by the Australian Electoral Commission – attracting just 1 per cent.”

Just say the above is true and Albosludge and Labor are in a commanding lead, perhaps it’s time that Dutton and co pulled their fingers out and started opposing Albosludge and his motley crew on some issues? And here’s something they can start opposing……the Voice.

Cassie of Sydney
December 5, 2022 6:43 am

Worth remembering that not even two years ago Newspoll was…

February 2021 preferred PM
Morrison 62%
Albanese 26%

I take polls with a big pinch of salt. However, Mr Morrison’s commanding lead as preferred PM in February 2021 (not that long ago) was stratospheric despite a hostile MSM constantly . Albosludge’s stratospheric polls are due to a fawning and fellating MSM.

So where to now for Albosludgy? Like Rudd in 2008, it WILL only go down.

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 6:50 am

?Nearly everyone is white
?Mark is clearly a stalker
?All the couples are straight
?They fat shame Natalie
?All the women seem controlled by men

…and yet it made tens of millions not hundreds of millions of white western women happy.

I’m not the one with a problem here, bucko.

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 5, 2022 7:03 am

Albo was featured prominently in this week’s ABC Science Show (aka the Climate Change Hour) where he made a speech and then presented The Prime Minister’s Science Awards.
What he knows about science would probably take up the whole area of a postage stamp when written down, but there he was, waxing lyrical about Da Science.
Using his recent bout of travel and handshaking with World Leaders, he recounted his having to explain to them why Australia was alone in the world “having so many climate deniers”.
Every other country, he said, had fully accepted da science and was in no doubt about climate change.
We are governed by idiots and deceivers.

Mater
December 5, 2022 7:05 am

New Australian War Memorial chair Kim Beazley says commemoration of Australia’s “Frontier Wars” is consistent with “a broad interpretation” of World War I correspondent Charles Bean’s original vision for the shrine.

Years ago an amusing story was imparted to me of when Beazley was the Defence Minister. To appreciate it, you’ve got to understand his physique meant he even tended to get wedged in the crew hatch of a Leopard tank (allegedly and apparently).

Anyway, after his visit initiated the need for the SAS to give him (another) dog and pony Counter Terrorism demonstration in Swanbourne, the boys peeled off the top half of their sweaty assault suits, tied them around their waists, and lined up in preparation to be addressed by the ‘great’ man. This revealed their Troop singlets underneath, which, as you might imagine, they ‘filled out’ appropriately.

Anyway, (allegedly and apparently) he commenced addressing them by indicating how taken he was by their singlets, and asked how he might get one.

One man stepped forward and said: “Fucking earn it!”*, and then resumed his position.

*Allegedly and apparently

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:10 am

(((Vladimir Putin))) [some conspiracy nuts think he is secretly Jewish…] – claimed by Schwab to be a WEF Young Leader
Kirill Dmitriev (Chief Executive Officer, Russian Direct Investment Fund, Russian Federation) – WEF Young Leader
Tigran Khudaverdian (Deputy CEO of IT company Yandex) – WEF Young Leader
Herman Gref (CEO and Chairman of Russian Sberbank) – WEF Board Trustee

The idea that Russia is some kind of champion against the WEF is silly.

Anyway, is this legitimate?

https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2021/06/who-funds-world-economic-forum.html

It’s big businesses, some of whom are massive grifters like McKinsey and Co.

Beertruk
Beertruk
December 5, 2022 7:11 am

Tim Blair in today’s Tele:

MUSK EXPOSES THE REAL ELECTION FAKERY

“ELECTION deniers,” leftist magazine The Atlantic declared in October, “are a threat to democracy.”

By “deniers”, leftists refer to those who don’t accept as legitimate the result of the 2020 US presidential election, in which Democrat Joe Biden defeated Republican President Donald Trump.

Those deniers are typically depicted as deranged, anti-democratic and the source of the rage that led to the January 6, 2021, storming of the Capitol Building in Washington, DC.

These folk don’t have many mainstream friends. “American politics should be purged of election deniers,” anti-Trump conservative David French wrote recently. “Democracy is at stake.”

French and other conservative wimps are a major reason why Trump became so popular. When they say democracy is at stake, they’re talking about the cosy and corrupt Republican-Democrat power-sharing consensus.

But another bunch of election deniers are somehow immune from criticism. Despite also not accepting an election result as legitimate, they are not similarly condemned as threats to democracy.

In 2017, the ABC’s Media Watch host Paul Barry dismissed as illegitimate the 2016 US presidential election, in which Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton.

“Facebook and Twitter allowed their platforms to be used by Russia,” Barry told viewers, “to swing the US presidential election and divide America.”

According to Barry’s conspiracy theory, $146,000 worth of basic Russian-financed anti-Clinton Facebook ads were more influential than $81m worth of Facebook material presented by the combined Trump and Clinton campaigns – and more influential than the campaigns themselves.

Barry didn’t have much to say in 2020, however, when Facebook and Twitter really did influence the election result. The social media platforms either banned outright or restricted access to the New York Post’s bombshell pre-election report that outlined the twisted international business ventures of Joe Biden’s son Hunter.

The Post had obtained the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop, abandoned by the whore-mongering crackhead at a repair store, and discovered reams of material implicating Joe Biden – “the big guy” – in various cash-raising scams.

This wasn’t of great interest to Barry, who sneered that the contents only “supposedly” came from Biden’s laptop, that the repair store wasn’t “100 per cent sure” of the laptop’s ownership and that “some believe the emails were more likely hacked – with claims the Russians were involved again”.

As for on the Post’s story – now recognised as accurate by the New York Times, the Washington Post and CBS – Barry merely noted that “Facebook and Twitter have taken sides … with Facebook limiting the spread of the New York Post story and Twitter initially banning users from sharing links”.

On the weekend, however, the full background of Twitter’s machinations to repress the story and “swing the US presidential election” was made clear.

Twitter banned the damning Post story by claiming it violated the company’s anti-hacking policy. But nothing was hacked. The Biden laptop simply contained everything that the Post published.

And some within Twitter knew this, as coverage by US journalist Matt Taibbi – given access to Twitter’s internal documents by new Twitter owner Elon Musk – now reveals.

“Emails and comments from former Twitter employees showed that ‘everyone knew’ the social media giant’s suppression of The Post’s scoops about Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop ‘was f–ked’,” the Post reported on the weekend, drawing from Taibbi’s coverage.

“‘They just freelanced it,” a former employee told Taibbi about how the decision came about. “Hacking was the excuse, but within a few hours, pretty much everyone realised that wasn’t going to hold. But no one had the guts to reverse it.”

Taibbi also exposed just how closely Twitter worked with Biden’s team to shut down critical commentary.

“Because Twitter was and is overwhelmingly staffed by people of one political orientation, there were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left (well, Democrats) than the right,” he wrote.

Just like the ABC.

Speaking of which, how might Media Watch election denier Paul Barry deal with all of this?

Not well, most likely. The host has already slammed Musk as a “billionaire bully” and “notorious loudmouth” who may allow “hate speech and conspiracy theories”.

Such as Barry’s claim that Russians stole the 2016 election.

“If Musk opens up the floodgates to misinformation, fake news and hate speech, you can expect journalists and media companies to take their leave,” Barry concluded.

Musk has instead presented information and real news about his own company.
Cope and seethe, Paul.

2dogs
2dogs
December 5, 2022 7:16 am

He runs the rant at a perfect pitch.

Best line:

Donald Trump, he doesn’t even need to tweet, because his mere presence is genocide!

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:23 am

I think I’ve reached the end of conspiracy theories. It doesn’t get any more confused and outrageous as this.

There’s a guy called Timothy Fitzpatrick who calls E Michael Jones controlled opposition.

He also says Opus Dei is Jewish…

“Exposing the Judeo-masonic-Bolshevist conspiracy”

Um, okay.

There are links to twitter feeds of white nationalists who hate Nicky Fuentes.

…and I thought Larry Romanoff was bad enough!

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 7:33 am

2dogs, it was hard to pick, but you got it.

If he doesn’t freelance for the Bee already, he should.

Johnny Rotten
December 5, 2022 7:35 am

At a nursing home a group of seniors were sitting around talking about all their ailments. “My arms have gotten so weak I can hardly lift this cup of coffee” said one.

“Yes, I know” said another. “My cataracts are so bad I can’t even see my coffee”.

“I couldn’t even mark an ‘X’ at election time, my hands are so crippled” volunteered a third.

“What? Speak up! What? I can’t hear you! said a fourth.

“I can’t turn my head because of the arthritis in my neck” said a fifth, to which several nodded weakly in agreement.

“My blood pressure pills make me so dizzy I can hardly walk!” exclaimed another.

“I forget where I am, and where I’m going” said an elderly gent.

“I guess that’s the price we pay for getting old” winced an old man as he slowly shook his head. The others nodded in agreement.

“Well, count your blessings” said one woman cheerfully “thankfully, we can all still drive”.

Johnny Rotten
December 5, 2022 7:37 am

Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance.

– Plato

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:38 am

This is pretty bad, what an odious bunch.

I’m not sure they even realise what hellscape they’re begging for.

https://swprs.org/the-young-global-leaders-of-the-davos-world-economic-forum-wef/

During the coronavirus pandemic (2020-2022), several WEF Young Global Leaders played prominent roles, typically promoting zero-covid strategies, lockdowns, mask mandates, and digital ‘vaccine passports’. The following list names some of these Young Global Leaders.

Jeffrey Zients (US White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator), Stéphane Bancel (CEO of Moderna), Nathan Wolfe (EcoHealth, Global Viral, Metabiota), Jeremy Howard (founder of influential lobby group “Masks for All”), Leana Wen (zero-covid CNN medical analyst), Eric Feigl-Ding (zero-covid Twitter personality), Gavin Newsom (Governor of California, selected in 2005), Devi Sridhar (British-American zero-covid professor), Jacinda Ardern (Prime Minister of New Zealand), Greg Hunt (Australian Health Minister and former WEF strategy director), French President Emanuel Macron, Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, German Chancellor Angela Merkel (selected in 1993), German Health Minister Jens Spahn, and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair (a leading proponent of ‘global vaccine passports’).

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 7:38 am

Speaking of the Bee, it’s a couple of days old, but this disendorsement will shake the fashion industry to its core.

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:44 am

Jesus Christ, look at this smug dumb bastard.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeremy-howard-the-data-behind-masks4all/id1505392824?i=1000477195427

Jeremy Howard is not a lobbyist, politician or a doctor. He is a data scientist. And yet, he is one of the main reasons that governments across the US are telling citizens to wear masks outside. To understand how this came to be, I spoke to Jeremy about his background, the data supporting masks, other country’s experiences with masks, and the various trends the data is showing.

No, dumbarse, “data science” isn’t a thing, there is statistics and there is programming.

“Data science” is nearly always incompetent statistical analysis done by a propellerhead executing script and not even writing their own code.

What an arsehole.

https://www.usfca.edu/news/masks4all

The scientific evidence and global consensus is clear: homemade masks can stop the spread of COVID-19,” he said.

If you have COVID-19 and cough next to someone from 8 inches away, wearing a cotton mask will reduce the amount of virus you transmit to that person by 36 times, Howard found.

Since researching masks with his USF class, Howard has written a commentary for the Washington Post, appeared on CNN, and built a social and policy movement — #Masks4All — to share the findings.

What a lying arsehole.

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:45 am

“Masks should be part of our future forever,”

Get fucked, cunt.

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:52 am
Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:55 am
calli
calli
December 5, 2022 7:55 am

“Masks should be part of our future forever,”

No. They can be your future, forever.

Stay safe Jeremy.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 5, 2022 7:56 am

Much historical research had occurred since then, he said, with historian Lieutenant General John Coates identifying 33 battle sites between Indigenous Australians and early settlers.

These must have been bloody big battles to have killed “up to 100,000” aboriginals (a la Henry Reynolds).

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 7:56 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Howard_(entrepreneur)

He is also a Young Global Leader with the World Economic Forum, and spoke at the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2014 on “Jobs For The Machines.”

Indolent
Indolent
December 5, 2022 7:57 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 5, 2022 8:00 am

Do we import Russian oil? If so, we’re the turkeys voting for Thanksgiving but, then, what else is new.

Russia will not export oil subject to Western price cap, deputy prime minister says

Indolent
Indolent
December 5, 2022 8:03 am

Just another way election laws were broken in 2020 and 2022.

In-kind contributions are illegal under under U.S. Federal law

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 8:04 am

Jeremy Howard’s career is suspect other than he was gifted to teach himself how to code.

BA in Philosophy (other than a PhD in stats?) at Melb Uni, then McKinsey and making optimisation software then really bad forecasting models and terrible, poorly designed, unethical experiments to justify tyranny?

Possible:

University of Melbourne
Bachelor of Arts in Business Administration (Philosophy)

1992 – 1995

This guy doesn’t have the credentials to be spewing out the nonsense he does.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 5, 2022 8:05 am

These people are at war with us dot. The C word is appropriate

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 8:05 am

Young Global Leader with the World Economic Forum

Even worse…he is one of Seven Sunrise’s tame “Experts”.

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 8:09 am

These people are at war with us dot.

I find this hard to accept.

I assume our social betters have talent, I don’t think that guy is special at all.

I know people who sell Excel/VBA dashboards etc and can get 5-10k for them. Some people earn 200k a year doing this.

I also know a guy who worked at Space X as an aerospace engineer.

They all had better credentials and were not tyranny loving psychopaths.

Indolent
Indolent
December 5, 2022 8:11 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
December 5, 2022 8:15 am

Never even heard of Jeremy Howard. It’s great not watching tv

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 5, 2022 8:15 am

highest voter approval since becoming Prime Minister after declaring to have delivered on Labor’s core election commitments in the first six months of office.

His “non-core” commitment to reduce electricity costs has gone down the memory hole. And probably a few inconvenient others as well.

Remember the MSM screeching about Howard and core/non-core commitments? All forgotten by the screechers.

Indolent
Indolent
December 5, 2022 8:19 am
Mater
December 5, 2022 8:21 am

If you have COVID-19 and cough next to someone from 8 inches away, wearing a cotton mask will reduce the amount of virus you transmit to that person by 36 times, Howard found.

Assuming this to be true, that means if someone 8 inches away coughs, and you are wearing a cotton mask, the amount of virus you are subjected to is reduced by 36 times. So how about you take the initiative, and leave me out of your stupid games.

Similarly, if you want to eliminate to chance of catching it, how about next time YOU lock yourself in your home and leave me the fuck alone. I’m happy to have a pox party, and get on with life, instead of trying to hold back the tide and causing ruination on any number of fronts.

Yet ANOTHER demonstration (as if we needed another after the last 30 months) that misery loves company.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 5, 2022 8:33 am

“Masks should be part of our future forever,”

This from today is apposite.

Not Even N95 Masks Work To Stop Covid (4 Dec)

Indolent
Indolent
December 5, 2022 8:35 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 5, 2022 8:41 am

Out to dinner last night with a group of associates. The venue was a waterfront pub in East Perf from where, whilst seated outside, you could see Optus Stadium which was down the river a bit.

Decent crowd, not packed. Whilst chatting to said associates, not long after we sat down I espied Messrs Hazlewood and Cummins, both minimum six four, walking past us and into the bar where I then also saw Lyon and a group of other players/entourage. Cummins was on his phone.

I thought seriously about calling out ‘Oi! Cummins! Child labour got you that Samsung!’, but I’d only just got to know the people I was with and didn’t want to embarrass them.

Yet.

bespoke
bespoke
December 5, 2022 8:48 am

It is suspended in water vapour so masks do help reduce transmission. I don’t see creating a fallacy helps the argument.

Zipster
December 5, 2022 8:48 am

Does anybody notice that the LameStream Media is REFUSING to report about, even a simple mention, the biggest Election Integrity and Interference Scandal in our Country’s History. Watch closely, you will see barely a mention. We have a CORRUPT MEDIA the likes of which has never been seen before, but fear not, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

I have no idea how he plans on doing that, since they have the electoral system locked up and are importing millions of new voters a year. Nothing short of a military coup can now reverse the rot.

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 8:49 am

Anything allowed out of China should be treated with great caution. While I believe this may happen, and most likely did, the fact that she was allowed both to film and upload it makes it suspect.

Naturally, it’s all a Catch22. Which is exactly how they want to run it.

Indolent
Indolent
December 5, 2022 8:50 am
calli
calli
December 5, 2022 8:54 am

Water can get through a cloth mask.

Don’t like my Wonka meme?

Here’s another.

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 8:58 am

As for the N95s…dunno.

Useful for stonemasons and benchtop cutters. Until they aren’t.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 5, 2022 8:58 am

Maybe that word “reduce” is the problem, Spoke. It’s in the bag of tricks with “slow the spread” and “flatten the curve”, but what a terrified Karen hears is really “zero covid”.
Try saying “I got the covid, but thankfully I was wearing a mask, otherwise it would have been more severe.” It’s been three long years of being baffled by bullshit, and unfortunately wittering paranoia and dust-of-bull cures are still running rampant.

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 9:03 am

Here’s another, non-paywalled.

Is stone dust smaller or larger than a droplet of virus studded vapour? I don’t know.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 5, 2022 9:05 am

Government to cap wholesale gas prices as part of market intervention to lower power prices

The ABC can reveal the government will likely cap wholesale gas prices at about $12 a gigajoule, demand a guaranteed domestic gas supply from producers, and enforce a mandatory code of conduct as part of a market intervention first flagged five weeks ago.

[Resources Minister, Madeleine] King warned “unintended consequences abound” with any market intervention and the government was conscious that if gas prices were capped too low, it could divert investment away from renewables.

Read that last sentence again: “if gas prices were capped too low, it could divert investment away from renewables”.

Run through an open cycle turbine genset, you need about 10GJ of gas to generate 1MWh of sent out electricity.

So, apparently the key risk is that the avoided fuel cost of $120/MWh is insufficient to attract further investment in ‘too cheap to meter’ renewables. The $50-$100/MWh 2016 to 2021 average wholesale price is looking a bit of a stretch, then.

Luckily Ms King tells us: “There are a lot of very smart people, very thoughtful people looking at the level of the price.

Hopefully some of these very smart and thoughtful people are right up to speed on the economics and reservoir engineering issues of marginal CSG production.

Because there may possibly be some unintended consequences tucked away in there.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 5, 2022 9:06 am

It is suspended in water vapour so masks do help reduce transmission.

No, Bespoke. On a cold day your breath will be white with water vapour. That dissipates about a second after you breathed it out, usually after only 10 or twenty centimetres. It does so because relative humidity is less than 100%, so the microscopic water droplets evaporate. Because they as so small they have a high relative surface area to weight, and the evaporation process is very fast. In warmer temperatures it’s even faster. The load of viruses are then free to float around. Same goes with virus-loaded droplets on a mask fibre: they dry out nearly instantly and your next breath blows them out.

The empirical data* is quite clear: masks don’t work for viruses of that size. They probably work for bacteria, but they’re 100 times larger.

(* ie not the fake data from the mask health nazis.)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 5, 2022 9:07 am

Lodged deep within the ‘weekend supplement’ online section of the papers – a list of the ten most disappointing cities in the world – as rated by the punters for rudeness, not living up to the brochure and general expectations:

The full top ten list of cities that don’t live up to expectations
1. Orlando, USA
2. Jakarta, Indonesia
3. Pattaya, Thailand
4. Denpasar, Indonesia
5. Guilin, China
6. Johannesburg, South Africa
7. Da Nang, Vietnam
8. Ha Long, Vietnam
9. Shenzhen, China
10. Beijing, China

Orlando is of course home to Disney World. Other than that, the general tone appears to be that Asia and the people in it are – well – disappointing.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 5, 2022 9:09 am

and enforce a mandatory code of conduct
Never let a good crisis go to waste

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 5, 2022 9:12 am

An impressive effort considering the frontier wars were in full swing.

The major battle was on the other side of the hill when they passed by, not noticing a thing untoward.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 5, 2022 9:15 am

Is stone dust smaller or larger than a droplet of virus studded vapour? I don’t know.

We had to reduce blood-lead concentration for both health and legal requirements. Ordinary masks never worked, the lead levels didn’t come down to the target. The ONLY way we could do it was to use positive pressure forced-draft sealed masks with a serious filter and a battery pack to drive the fan. The Racal helmets were a thousand bucks each. They worked – the guys were required to wear them and blood leads finally came down.

The particles of lead oxide were about 1 or 2 microns at their smallest. The Covid virus is 0.1 microns.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 5, 2022 9:16 am

If you have COVID-19 and cough next to someone from 8 inches away, wearing a cotton mask will reduce the amount of virus you transmit to that person by 36 times, Howard found.

Mask or no mask, if I went up to someone and coughed at them from 8” away, I would expect to be punched.

bespoke
bespoke
December 5, 2022 9:20 am

Next time your under the nife insist the doc takes of the mask, BoN.

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 9:21 am

I suppose people visiting Orlando would have very high expectations. Unrealistic, in fact.

Visiting asia – meh. I wasn’t disappointed when visiting China, Vietnam or Johannesburg. Or even Thailand. It was exactly as I imagined it.

“She felt a tightness in her chest and sent for Dr Simcox.
‘What’s the trouble?’
‘Look out there, that’s the trouble! It’s so green and quiet and it’s always bloody raining.’
‘That’s England, Mrs Mallard-Greene. I’m afraid there’s no known cure for it.”
? John Mortimer, Paradise Postponed

😀

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 5, 2022 9:22 am

Bean’s vision was for “a ­national memorial that would commemorate what the nation had done during the war”.

Mr Beazley said the inclusion of displays depicting Australia’s Frontier Wars was in accord with that vision “

Who gives a flying f… For Beans original vision. If Bean paid for it out of his own pocket that fat f… Might have an argument.

Given that he was a man of his times, Bean would probably be horrified by the proposal to even acknowledge the existence of 3rd nations.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 5, 2022 9:23 am

Eddie out.
Oh dear.
How sad.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 5, 2022 9:23 am

Luckily Ms King tells us: “There are a lot of very smart people, very thoughtful people looking at the level of the price.”

but know nothing about electricity and enjoy a good grift.

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 9:24 am

I’d be more worried about getting a good dose of staph from the hospital, not a death breath from the surgeon.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 5, 2022 9:27 am

Beasley was always a fair greazy turd who’s never had a real job. Def the dregs of the middle class

Mater
December 5, 2022 9:27 am

It is suspended in water vapour so masks do help reduce transmission. I don’t see creating a fallacy helps the argument.

The masks got saturated within minutes. Then whilst kidding themselves, by coughing into their elbows, they proceeded to adjust said mask at a rate of about 3 times a minute, and smeared the disgusting shit on and across everything they touched.

It was a joke, and if doctors did that in surgery, I’d rather they not wear one.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 5, 2022 9:28 am

Fat greazy turd

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 9:28 am

bespoke says:
December 5, 2022 at 9:20 am
Next time your under the nife insist the doc takes of the mask, BoN.

It doesn’t make a difference. There is a seminal paper in the BMJ about this.

Roger
Roger
December 5, 2022 9:31 am

Dutton willing to form a minority government with the Teals.

Whatever it takes to get bums on ministerial leather.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 5, 2022 9:33 am

Catactionary question-
is there a single term which sums up the cycle of non-election regulation, restructuring, treaty signing and hashtag-writing policies which push the private citizen into serfdom for the New World Order?
Mandatory Code of Conducts
Diversity Targets
Memorandum of Understanding
Stakeholder Consultation
Corporate Social Governance
Thinking intra-nationally, too wide a net to cast into the likes of COP treaties.
Also contains China Virus Commands, Social Distancing Requirements, Local Area Boundaries, etc
Any thoughts?

calli
calli
December 5, 2022 9:33 am

Dutton won’t even use a long spoon. He’ll be at the trough with his snout embedded deeply.

And then wonder why he’s suddenly drowning in swill.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 5, 2022 9:34 am

That bloke making the rant would have had so many progressives nodding their heads at first and then, before they realised, found they were still nodding at some of the absurdities and wondering if they should stop.

And the shirt was great – the Hammer and Sickle with the heavy monolithic font reading ‘SHARING’. Not even die-hards believe that the Soviets were so altruistic – but they used to believe it before they transferred their affections to shitholes like Venezuela.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 5, 2022 9:34 am

Next time your under the nife insist the doc takes of the mask, BoN.

He’d be doing you a favour. That experiment was carefully run in the UK in 1981. They ran half the operating theatres with no masks and the other half with for 6 months. Wound infections halved. So of course they went back to using masks (they are there so gooey stuff doesn’t get squirted into the eyes of the doctors and nurses).
Many trials since have tried to discredit that result but have failed.

Dot
Dot
December 5, 2022 9:34 am

Read that last sentence again: “if gas prices were capped too low, it could divert investment away from renewables”.

I’d be worried about rolling blackouts myself.

Hey, I never was a social policy director at the big four though.

What’s basic economics compared to successfully shilling?

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 5, 2022 9:35 am

Next time your under the nife insist the doc takes of the mask, BoN.

He’d be doing you a favour. That experiment was carefully run in the UK in 1981. They ran half the operating theatres with no masks and the other half with for 6 months. Wound infections halved for no masks. So of course they went back to using masks (they are there so gooey stuff doesn’t get squirted into the eyes of the doctors and nurses).
Many trials since have tried to discredit that result but have failed.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 5, 2022 9:35 am

There’s little doubt that Labor buys most of their constituency.
A nephew who works for a power company said they’d received four pay increases during Andrew’s last term and the talk in the smoko room – why change a winning game?
The nephew can’t stand Dan and knows it’s all built on unsustainable debt. While the money lasts Labor wins.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 5, 2022 9:36 am

Next time your under the nife insist the doc takes of the mask, BoN.

Bespoke, please read what I wrote. I said they don’t protect against viruses, but they probably do against bacteria because they are 100 times bigger. And MRSA especially is the problem with surgery.

You cannot make a filter that will retain viruses which you can still breathe through. Your lungs aren’t powerful enough. Which is why in level 4 labs they wear hazmat suits with external air supply.

I have often used 0.45 micron filters in the lab, you can just blow air through them if you try. Takes serious lung strength and the flow is tiny. But even a 0.45 membrane filter has pore sizes about five times too big for this critter.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 5, 2022 9:36 am

Sorry, second post was edited for clarity.

Roger
Roger
December 5, 2022 9:38 am

Much historical research had occurred since then, he said, with historian Lieutenant General John Coates identifying 33 battle sites between Indigenous Australians and early settlers.

And yet no medals or battle honours were awarded.

Roger
Roger
December 5, 2022 9:39 am

Rorke’s Drift it wasn’t.

cohenite
December 5, 2022 9:39 am

re: The Frontier Wars; a movie has to be made: Denzel Washington will play the proud Bingabonga man, Mundinee and his dutiful wife, Clarice, will be played by Halle Berry. After their thriving Yadiki and Woomera construction business is shorted by unscrupulous colonisers Mundinee and his staff go on the warpath and execute a hostile takeover of the Victoria Emporium; after many fine speeches and a brilliant rallying cry from Clarice, Mundinee is elected as the Voice and the headlines read Mr Mundinee goes to Canberra.

Jorge
Jorge
December 5, 2022 9:39 am

That cattle drive from NSW to the Kimberley: what time of year and the route taken ? Presumably head north then swing left across the top end. Water must have been the big consideration.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 5, 2022 9:40 am

Much historical research had occurred since then, he said, with historian Lieutenant General John Coates identifying 33 battle sites between Indigenous Australians and early settlers.

These must have been bloody big battles to have killed “up to 100,000” aboriginals (a la Henry Reynolds)

Archaeological evidence of any such battles?

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 5, 2022 9:40 am

Karl Denninger on zero covid (includes a bit on masks). He recently linked to the UK study but I can’t be bothered going back and finding it.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247530

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 5, 2022 9:42 am

Maybe we should be going back to Lister’s carbolic sprayer then. A fog of disinfectant which kills airborne and surface bacteria would seem to be better. The theatre staff can wear masks to protect their lungs from the disinfectant.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 5, 2022 9:42 am

That cattle drive from NSW to the Kimberley: what time of year and the route taken ?
Might actually take a substantial fraction of a year. How fast do cattle move on a drive?

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 5, 2022 9:44 am

Maybe we should be going back to Lister’s carbolic sprayer then. A fog of disinfectant which kills airborne and surface bacteria would seem to be better. The theatre staff can wear masks to protect their lungs from the disinfectant.

How about UV light of correct wavelengths? Staff can wear glasses with appropriate filters.

Zipster
December 5, 2022 9:44 am

It also turns out that mRNA tech was actively being developed by the US gov specifically as a bioweapon countermeasure.

the reason for this apparently is that attenuated live coronavirus vaccines don’t work well at all. coronaviruses being airborne are a primary vector for bioweapons

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 5, 2022 9:44 am
Christine
Christine
December 5, 2022 9:46 am

‘Mr Mundinee Goes to Canberra’
Isn’t that good

bespoke
bespoke
December 5, 2022 9:47 am

BoN, if the virus is released instantly why isn’t a reasonable assumption some will get re-trapped by the water in the mask?

JC
JC
December 5, 2022 9:50 am

He’d be doing you a favour. That experiment was carefully run in the UK in 1981. They ran half the operating theatres with no masks and the other half with for 6 months. Wound infections halved for no masks. So of course they went back to using masks (they are there so gooey stuff doesn’t get squirted into the eyes of the doctors and nurses).
Many trials since have tried to discredit that result but have failed.

And it’s impossible to carry out a double blind experiment for masks, you unfathomable goofball. The environment could never be 100% identical. And these studies are next to useless. The only thing we can go on is hunches, which at times is good enough.
Explain to us though, a medical team is doing doing brain surgery, isn’t wearing masks and they all begin sneezing into the open cranial cavity. How do you think that would work out, you biased fool? Hallward, I’m not kidding, you’re just as weird annoying, just as unscientific as a any leftwinger.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 5, 2022 9:51 am

Can anyone (other than Gargooglery MD QC) suggest what the cause of action is for Brittany and her employer and why it wouldn’t be reduced to something approaching nil via contributory negligence in any event? It seems Brittany has been badly advised and set up to fail for the benefit of others again.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 5, 2022 9:54 am

Even the public servant with the two backs case doesn’t seem to offer much hope. A business trip doesn’t bear much resemblance to knocking off and heading to the pub for Friday drinks.

JC
JC
December 5, 2022 9:54 am

Eyrie says:
December 5, 2022 at 9:40 am

Karl Denninger on zero covid (includes a bit on masks). He recently linked to the UK study but I can’t be bothered going back and finding it.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247530

Oh God. Hallward Hughes peddles Denninger and Rodney Rottenhead thinks Armstrong should win the Nobel for Economics.

This doesn’t mean that I’m arguing mass masking for covid works is likely doesn’t.

Jorge
Jorge
December 5, 2022 9:55 am

Wonder what the attrition rate was and the causes.
Once there and all operational it’s a long way back to your market. How did they figure that ?

Not to mention there was a war going on (sarc).

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