Open Thread – Tues 8 Nov 2022


Suicide of Saul, Pieter Bruegel, 1562


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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 8, 2022 11:51 am

Nope. It is not all calm yet. Manager can’t see in the dark to punch numbers into the keypad to his quarters. He wants me to shine my phone on it and read out the numbers too as he’s also forgotten his glasses.

Hairy comments that our arrival was like something out of Deliverance. This place is out of town near the cemetary. Noone was around and we wandered unchallenged all over the premises to eventually be met by a woman with a severe speech impediment and her late appearing male companion had so thick an accent that he was unintelligible, but whose main concern was he’d been ‘fighting the bugs for y’all’ all afternoon. What a relief that they were only ladybugs. That was the real deliverance for at first I thought he meant bed bugs.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 8, 2022 11:51 am

Nope. It is not all calm yet. Manager can’t see in the dark to punch numbers into the keypad to his quarters. He wants me to shine my phone on it and read out the numbers too as he’s also forgotten his glasses.

Hairy comments that our arrival was like something out of Deliverance. This place is out of town near the cemetary. Noone was around and we wandered unchallenged all over the premises to eventually be met by a woman with a severe speech impediment and her late appearing male companion had so thick an accent that he was unintelligible, but whose main concern was he’d been ‘fighting the bugs for y’all’ all afternoon. What a relief that they were only ladybugs. That was the real deliverance for at first I thought he meant bed bugs.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 11:54 am

The spreadsheet says 273,301 but registered births for 2021 is 309,996.

Someone may have been tardy updating the figures. That’s why they’re paid the big bucks.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 8, 2022 11:55 am

There are instances of Islamists being deradicalised, but even the “experts” concede that success is difficult to achieve.

Arriving home in the full on top to toe back letterbox freedom sack was not a good sign.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 11:56 am

It was at University. So possibly sandstone.

Once out of curiosity I visited those dingy corridors where the Student Union communists excreted Honi Soit fishwrap. Gyprock on side brick the other I recall. Bottom floor of the Union bldg just across City Rd from our Chemistry Building.

Could be wrong, it was forty years ago – which as it happens was about when the wall cried in agony. Never ran across Abbott there even though we were there at the same time.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 8, 2022 12:01 pm

Wind and Solar……..Bwahahahahahahahahahah

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/wa-may-have-to-rely-on-diesel-generators-to-keep-lights-on/101624856

The body that runs Western Australia’s biggest power system may have to spend tens of millions of dollars hiring diesel-fired backup generators as part of desperate efforts to keep the lights on this summer.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 12:04 pm

But of course.

Former senator Kristina Keneally joins Sydney Children’s Hospital Foundation in first role since losing Labor safe seat (Sky, 8 Nov)

The former New South Wales premier has been announced as the new chief executive officer of the Sydney Children’s Hospital Foundation, with Ms Keneally saying she is “thrilled” to join the organisation at “such a pivotal time in their story”.

I wonder what her salary is? Quite chunky I’d suspect.

m0nty
m0nty
November 8, 2022 12:06 pm

I thought Abbott punched a brick wall? I’m sure mUnty can tell us.

Abbott’s relations with masonry are much more cordial these days.

duncanm
duncanm
November 8, 2022 12:07 pm

No one listens to SBS

I find their news some of the least partisan freely available.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 8, 2022 12:10 pm

Clear from the papers today that the pre hype is on to get us ready for jab no 5. Just a matter of when.

I did make a comment on Oz article. Initially approved as it showed over 40 likes. Somebody must have changed mind as subsequently rejected. Not the first time been approved, got lots of likes, then rejected.

Pity the editors don’t pay attention to the way the comments going. Looks like 70% not enthusiastic about no 5.

Can’t be said enough that the media is now part of the TGA/Govt propaganda machine.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 8, 2022 12:10 pm

We had our first brush with the law on today’s drive. At a 4 way intersection with some traffic lights Hairy went sailing thru a 4-way stop sign. The lights then changed just after we went thru. I think you might have been supposed to stop there first, I comment mildly, just as he looks in the rear view mirror to see the blue lights of a police car bearing down on us. We wait. They’re checking our numberplate? I suggest. Eventually a black highway patrol man fronts up and Hairy proffers his license. My wife says she thought I made an error back there, he apologises. The guy looks at me, at the license, says you’re from Australia, and I eagerly say yes, and he says that’s fine, just remember to four way stop with that sign in the US. Have a nice trip, he says, and we are left thankful that he decided not to get a bloke into further trouble with his wife.

To be honest, as the sole driver, Hairy was getting pretty tired, so it was an easily made mistake.

rickw
rickw
November 8, 2022 12:12 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 12:12 pm

Parthenogenesis news.

‘A beautiful miracle’: Aussie actress Rebel Wilson announces birth of daughter Royce Lillian born via surrogate (Sky, 8 Nov)

I wonder how her marriage is going? Oops, hasn’t happened yet.

Rebel Wilson ‘engaged’ to girlfriend of 7 months Ramona Agruma – reports (5 Nov)

Engaged to her girlfriend on 5 Nov, gives birth on 7 Nov. It IS a miracle! Ok, not, it wasn’t her who actually did the messy birth stuff. As you were.

rickw
rickw
November 8, 2022 12:15 pm

The former New South Wales premier has been announced as the new chief executive officer of the Sydney Children’s Hospital Foundation, with Ms Keneally saying she is “thrilled” to join the organisation at “such a pivotal time in their story”.

Swamp @ Work

Imagine the wealth of Australia if it wasn’t for all these useless troughers.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 8, 2022 12:17 pm

Arkysays:
November 8, 2022 at 11:41 am

… A large chunk of very unwise people are locking us into a future of expensive and limited transportation, in the hope that some future technological solutions will fix the plethora of likely failure points in their plans.
It’s insanity.

Arky Johnson is right.

rickw
rickw
November 8, 2022 12:18 pm

The whole ‘repatriation’ thing is about seeding another cluster of the Islamic Cancer.

One of the worlds first successful melanoma transplants…..

rosie
rosie
November 8, 2022 12:19 pm

What happened to my 158? T
hat should have been 158 different high risk pregnancies a week, or over 30 a day.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 12:21 pm

Hairy comments that our arrival was like something out of Deliverance.

Being met by a banjo player isn’t a good sign.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 12:21 pm

Apparently Tony Abbott punched a wall whilst at university in the 1970s, or some such thing. I remember their ABC and Fauxfax running with the story, the coverage was brimming with the usual progressive left hysterical bile.

So…..

An apocryphal story of Tony Abbott punching a wall back in the 1970s = evil man, not fit to be PM, hysterical MSM coverage.

Bill Shorten – married to Deb, embarked on a sordid affair with a woman named Chloe who was married to another man at the time. Chloe became pregnant with Shorten’s child, a sordid story that left several people unhappy = MSM silence.

Barnaby Joyce – married, embarked on a sordid affair with a woman who wasn’t married. This woman became pregnant = MSM hysteria.

Bill Shorten – a rape allegation surfaces from thirty years ago = MSM silence.

Christian Porter – a rape allegation surfaces from thirty years ago = MSM hysteria.

Anthony Albanese – a man who fights Tories, separated from his wife of 20 years, who how has the chutzpah to call for less divisiveness in politics, anyone remember the 1996 Parliament House riot, a riot that involved a physical attack on Parliament House, one can wonder where Albanese was when the riot was happening = MSM silence

Anthony Albanese – a man who likes to catch up for tea and bikkies with a notorious anti-Semite = MSM silence.

I’m sure you get my drift….

Daniel Andrews = MSM silence, until now. You have to wonder why, he must be losing friends although I find it difficult to imagine such a person having any friends.

As for Abbott and the wall, I suspect he kissed more girls at university than he punched walls.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 12:23 pm

‘ABC is not grooming kids’: Anderson
Staff writers
STAFF WRITERS

The ABC’s managing director has been forced to defend programming amid a clash during Senate Estimates hearings on Tuesday over a drag actor’s storytime show for children.

Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young went head to head with Liberal senator Alex Antic, when he grilled ABC boss David Anderson.

The program in question, stars actor Shane Jenek reading from a children’s book called The Spectacular Suit, about a female child wanting to wear male clothing. The program was rated G and has been heavily promoted on television and on the app.

“Why is the ABC grooming children with this sort of adult content?” Senator Antic asked.

Mr Anderson rejected the idea that the show was about grooming children, saying that is was “reading from a book that is about dressing up”.

Senator Antic pushed his point further, saying it was “Female children in male children’s clothing you think that’s not… ”

Senator Hanson-Young interjected, saying that Senator Antic’s comments were deeply offensive.

“You mean young girls wearing pants? Seriously,” she said. “Heavens above – girls wearing pants. That is the level of rubbish you are putting forward.”

Senator Antic told Senator Hanson that she was welcome to leave if she was offended by the truth that the “ABC is grooming our children.”’

Senator Hanson-Young said that grooming was a serious matter.

“It is not for being played with by conservative senators to make headlines,” she said. “Sexual assault survivors right around this country will be deeply offended, deeply offended by you playing politics.”

Mr Anderson rejected the notion that the ABC was grooming Australian children.

“We are not,” he said. “What we are doing, that is about dressing up.”

Mr Anderson agreed that transgender issues, when “people that wish to identify as a sex other than what they were born as”, involved adult concepts.

However, he said he did not accept what Senator Antic was suggesting about the storytime show.

“You are saying about somebody who is trans grooming Australian children,” he said. “That’s not, that whole story time was not about that, it was about dressing up.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 12:24 pm

“‘A beautiful miracle’: Aussie actress Rebel Wilson announces birth of daughter Royce Lillian born via surrogate (Sky, 8 Nov)”

I posted a comment under the Daily Telegraph story, the comment was….

Rent a womb

It was rejected. Surrogacy is a form of prostitution.

Tom
Tom
November 8, 2022 12:25 pm

According to Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump is rumoured to be ready to make an “announcement” at tonight’s rally in Dayton OH. Trump rally livecast.

rosie
rosie
November 8, 2022 12:27 pm

Elbow’s decision re the Isis ladies was pure politics, security concerns be damned.
No doubt the families to the bosoms of which they are now restored would have all joined the exodus to el sham, as soon as their new start allowances, sole parents, dsp, carers and aged pensions could be ported.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 12:28 pm

Surrogacy is a form of prostitution.

It’s also objectification of “lesser” females, usually from the third world. The sheer physical cost of bearing children is conveniently forgotten.

The most disgusting spectacle to date was the Buttegeig creep and his “husband” with their baby in a hospital bed for a photo shoot. I did wonder which one had endured the episiotomy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 12:29 pm

I’ve crossed the Newscorpse line at Teh Paywallian by describing COP 27 as an UN shakedown. “Rejected”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 12:29 pm

Another napalm-clad freedom barracks.

Dubai building’s cladding questioned after 35-storey apartment catches fire and flames soar up the side of complex (Sky, 8 Nov)

Alarming footage from a 35-storey building on fire in Dubai has placed the spotlight on alleged dodgy cladding on the outside of the residential apartment complex.

Flames raced up the side of the tower after the inferno began at about 2:20am on Tuesday near the world’s tallest building, the Burj Khalifa.

A resident of the complex – 8 Boulevard Walk – told Associated Press authorities were due to replace the cladding after another tower suffered a similar fire on New Year’s Day 2015 but the material on the side of the building had not been replaced.

Ironic that this cladding stuff is supposed to reduce global warming because from what I see it does the opposite of that, quite ferociously.

(* KD yesterday. 😀 )

rickw
rickw
November 8, 2022 12:30 pm

as soon as their new start allowances, sole parents, dsp, carers and aged pensions could be ported.

And I bet they’re not vaxxed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 12:31 pm

A beautiful miracle’: Aussie actress Rebel Wilson announces birth of daughter Royce Lillian born via surrogate (Sky, 8 Nov)”

Is Wilson the mother, father or something or other. It’s so complicated apparently.

rosie
rosie
November 8, 2022 12:32 pm

Rebel’s weight loss was most likely precipiced by that intense longing to be a mother that can beset women in their late thirties, early forties.
I think I read an interview where that was mentioned.
Seems like she plans to have more than one.
Just another one in the conga line sad sack celebrity with no ethics but lots of money.
Iirc Kidman’s second child was also via a surrogate.

Mater
November 8, 2022 12:33 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 12:35 pm

Murray Lampard: The WA Police Academy is tough — and for good reason
Murray LampardThe West Australian
Mon, 7 November 2022.

The West Australian article on Saturday, October 22, “‘Culture of bullying’ at the police academy”, deserves a response to provide an independent view of the professional training of police recruits at the WA Police Academy.

I am privileged and honoured to be part of a small group of independent and part-time volunteers who commit their time and expertise to the incoming police recruit squads and remain with them during their 28 weeks of intensive and challenging training.

The volunteers are focused on the recruit’s individual well-being by providing sound guidance and assisting the recruits to understand community expectations in law enforcement.

Over the past two years, I have met most of the police trainers and support staff at the academy and have found them to be very professional, engaging and focused on successfully guiding recruits through an intensive and life-changing experience to their graduation.

For many recruits, joining the police academy is a confronting experience ranging from the wearing of a uniform, being part of a disciplined, professional organisation that has well-founded rules and regulations, drills on the parade ground and regular academic and physical assessments.

From my observations and the feedback from many recruits, I have never observed or been told of any “bullying or sexist behaviour” by academy staff.

What I have observed however, is that some recruits are simply not able to meet the demands of the curriculum and struggle personally with the rigours of intense training that is physically and emotionally demanding.

Policing is not a job for the faint-hearted and it requires a strength of character and commitment to meet minimum standards of competency.

Once graduated, operational officers are often confronted with people that are under the influence of drug and alcohol. They are unpredictable, often violent and officers have to make split-second decisions to keep the peace.

Officers need to display courage, be clear thinking and demonstrate sound judgement. Attending domestic violence complaints will further test junior officers who will rely on their training, compassion and confidence, all acquired at the academy.

Unfortunately, I have seen instances where recruits blame their instructors or the training program for their own failure to meet the academy requirements and benchmarks rather than look at their own attitude, performance and behaviour as the cause of their failure.

A few recruits openly challenge and question the instructors, refuse to be part of a team and want to coast along without the required effort. They not only let themselves down, but also other members of their squad.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 12:36 pm

It’s also objectification of “lesser” females, usually from the third world. The sheer physical cost of bearing children is conveniently forgotten.

Yep. Last week I watched Sarah Dingle’s excellent expose about donor sperm on SBS – Inconceivable: The Secret Business of Breeding Humans. It was excellent and sad….profoundly sad. Sarah is the product of donor sperm.

All of this, from donor sperm to surrogacy, should be banned.

rickw
rickw
November 8, 2022 12:42 pm

Will the Chairman have his Chappaquidick? Watch Victoriastanis vote for more of the same.

Vote curating by CFMEU thug oversight is how it will work.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 8, 2022 12:42 pm

Donor sperm devalues and rubbishes fatherhood. As for Buttplug, the very model of the 21st century political class. Father is / was some Marxist don.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 8, 2022 12:44 pm

The McKinseys connection says a lot about Buttplug and McKinseys.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 12:45 pm

Andrews and wife’s statements now up online in the Herald-Sun.

The ponytail and man-bun types must be getting desperate in the back of the campaign bus.

The statements look like just graphics of the pages but some of them are in the article. Can most complete if anyone wants it.

rickw
rickw
November 8, 2022 12:46 pm

Exciting day yesterday, we did a test loading of a diesel truck that went relatively smoothly. No spills and only one PRV blew off at the very end.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 8, 2022 12:46 pm

I can’t imagine any sane person liking the dicktator but I have had the misfortune to come across such persons. They do exist.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 12:47 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

November 8, 2022 at 12:10 pm

We had our first brush with the law on today’s drive. At a 4 way intersection with some traffic lights Hairy went sailing thru a 4-way stop sign. 

Had a young relative and his wife over for dinner last night.
Just returned from the USA.
He told the story about how they were driving through, I think it was Nevada and/or Utah. Roads were marked at 80 mph. They were dutifully sitting right on the limit but were being passed by other traffic within clear sight of highway patrol cars.
When they stopped for the night he commented about it at a bar they were eating at.
The explanation was that you have immunity (up to a point) there and in several neighbouring counties “unless you are carrying Californian plates”.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 12:48 pm

And just further to Dingle’s “Inconceivable: The Secret Business of Breeding Humans”…every adult who was the product of donor sperm wanted to know who their father was. It is a natural human desire.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 12:54 pm

Dingle’s story is also a perfect example of telling a child at the appropriate age that they are adopted or the result of a donor. It’s a hard conversation to have but it helps the child make sense of their world.

As for the danger inherent in having so many children born from the one donor, why did no one imagine the possibilities?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 12:55 pm

every adult who was the product of donor sperm wanted to know who their father was

And every donor father doesn’t want the progeny to know who he is, because then he’ll be sued for alimony or wrongful birth.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 12:55 pm

First one of the season. We have a bushfire down the road. Got in before the blowflies!

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 12:56 pm

“Cassie, thanks for reminding me. I’ll have to catch it on SBS on demand.”

It’s excellent DB.

MatrixTransform
November 8, 2022 12:59 pm

Hildebrand and Waleed

… the media’s pet-eunuchs

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 1:06 pm

The question of donor sperm is complex. I was asked to act as a donor for a friend’s sister whose husband was infertile. Did a couple of counseling sessions and other requirements. I’m not sure how many rounds she did but the whole process was unsuccessful. If you go through a registered clinic there is virtually no legal implications but it has not always been the case.

dopey
dopey
November 8, 2022 1:08 pm

ABC: COP 27 Summit. Delegates told world is on a ‘highway to climate hell.’

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 8, 2022 1:09 pm

Stephen Williams says:
November 8, 2022 at 7:32 am

Saul topped himself to stop uncircumcised men from thrusting and abusing him, what was he implying?

Saul is one of the interesting characters in the Bible, it is said that he was chosen as the king of all Israel as he was the tallest man in Israel, and also because he was from the Tribe of Benjamin. There was a lot of “sorry business” regarding the Benjamites at that time as the other tribes had nearly completely wiped them out in a brutal civil war.

That war occurred as a Levite priest was attacked while staying in a Benjamite village by the locals who wanted to have their way with him, he gave the mob his mistress instead and they ravished then killed and dismembered her. News of this event spread throughout Israel (the priest sent body parts of his slain mistress to all the tribal chiefs) so all the tribes went to war against the Tribe of Benjamin and they were nearly completely wiped out.

Then the tribes regretted their actions and gave their daughters to the surviving Benjamite men for wives so that the tribe could re-establish itself. This sorry business also resulted in Saul from the Tribe of Benjamin being elected as their first king rather than a descendant of Judah to whom the role of leadership was promised.

David succeeded to the throne after Saul’s demise and he was the first of the line of Judah to rule over all Israel. Prior to David’s accession, Israel was ruled by a collection of people from all the other tribes called the Judges of Israel, none of Judah’s descendants played a significant role in that era of Israeli history. As David was a tenth generation descendant of Pharez, it would appear that Deuteronomy 23:2 was in play, given the circumstances of Pharez’s conception:

A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.

The Tribe of Benjamin nowadays is split 50/50 between the House of Judah (the Jews) and the House of Israel (the “Joes”). Those Benjamites still in the House of Israel diaspora are the descendants of the Belgae Celts in Hampshire and Somerset (England), and in Belgium. They were also in Norway but were largely driven out when the Naphtalite Huns arrived, they sailed south and were known as the Northmen (Normans). Some Benjamites remained in Norway and they were the Beserker warriors whom the other Vikings stayed well clear of.

The Apostle Paul was from the Tribe of Benjamin and as he was the only Apostle authorised to go to the Gentiles, we can expect that the Tribe of Benjamin will be amongst the largest and definitely the most diverse in greater Israel when Mashiach ben David rules from Jerusalem.

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 1:17 pm

Surrogacy is a form of prostitution.

No, there are better arguments against it.

Were wet nurses prostitutes?

johanna
johanna
November 8, 2022 1:21 pm

Cassie, demanding that something ‘should be banned’ is just virtue-signalling on the internet. It also mirrors the Left, who are always shrieking that something ‘should be banned.’

The reality is that these technologies exist, and rich people will use them. You need to stop yelling at clouds.

I don’t like it any more than you do, but that’s the way it is.

We need to develop an ethical framework for these kids, translated into law. No point in railing against it, that horse has bolted. Yelling about it might make you feel and seem good – meh.

Neither biological nor State parents guarantee anything. We do know what the odds are – biological parents are a better bet.

Time to start being constructive instead of yelling at clouds (that goes for the anti-abortionists as well).

BTW, did any long time Cat reader not think of Lizzie when the WIP image of the crying baby who was leaving Twitter, but closely monitoring responses, came up?

Fess up, no fibbing, I reckon at least 90%.

m0nty
m0nty
November 8, 2022 1:25 pm
Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 1:27 pm

LOL

Dear Members and Friends,

Some of you may have noticed a rather sudden change to the branding of our Gala dinner this Saturday 12 November.

I want to address the changes with you all now, as quickly and directly as possible.

The original name of the event was “Anzacs and Ancestors” and was chosen to recognise the hero’s who have put their lives on the line over the years to defend Australian freedom.

It was brought to my attention yesterday morning 7/11/22 via an enquiry from a Liberal Party aligned journalist that there is an obscure law that prohibits the use of the word ANZAC without written permission. This error was mine as Division President and I have taken the necessary steps to safe guard the NSW Division, including personally reaching out to the RSL NSW.

What sticks out most to me is that it was not the RSL that expressed concern, nor any veterans group, it was a Daily Telegraph journalist who had been “tipped off” by Liberal Party Minister David Elliott. You remember him? He was the Police Minister who authorised strip searching kids. He is now in charge of Public Transport in our State!

In my opinion if Mr Elliott was genuinely concerned about the use of the word ANZAC a courtesy phone call pointing out the error and his concerns would have resulted in a simple name change on our end.

Instead of this Mr Elliott, a Minister of the Crown no less, decided the first call he should make with his concerns was to a newspaper. The obvious motivation was to get himself a headline at the expense of the Veterans who have served this country and protected us against tyranny.

As Mr Elliott clearly wants to use the Liberal Democrats to get himself in the paper we felt it appropriate to give him exactly what he wanted. As such we have renamed our Gala in his honour – “The David Elliott good riddance celebration, Hosted by the Liberal Democrats NSW”.

Of course we would love you all to join us there, and there are a few tables still available! Come along and hear from Ross Cameron as Keynote speaker. You will also have a chance to drink and talk with John Ruddick and Daniel Lewkovitz whilst enjoying a live band and 3 courses of wonderful food.

I implore you to join us on Saturday the 12/11/22, but if you are unable to attend but would like to show the event some support and of course farewell Mr Elliott appropriately please click the link below and donate to our NSW campaign.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 1:28 pm

All of this, from donor sperm to surrogacy, should be banned.

Call me old, cantankerous and irritable, but I’m of the opinion that any child conceived, and born by such means, is nothing more then the ultimate designer label accessory.

Zipster
November 8, 2022 1:31 pm

Number of births in Australia from 2011 to 2022

another case vastly incomplete numbers? ave of 300k births up to 21 and only 74k in 2022

m0nty
m0nty
November 8, 2022 1:32 pm

Please Mr Trump, I am begging you, announce your 2024 candidacy as soon as possible. For the good of the nation and the world.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 1:32 pm

I can’t see that happening Monty, since lefties in particular hate paying for anything, and the right now has a diaspora of social media sites. Of course something like Tribel could get up (love the name!) but nothing paywalled will make a business case. Humans love free stuff.

(Btw Dover’s donation widget is on the upper RHS of the page, you should help him pay for all the bandwdth you use.)

johanna
johanna
November 8, 2022 1:37 pm

I composed a comment about the cocaine trade with references, which got killed by WordPress.

Oh, well (sniff)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 1:42 pm

Please Mr Trump, I am begging you, announce your 2024 candidacy as soon as possible. For the good of the nation and the world.

Do you mind Monty if I bookmark your comment in advance of 6 Nov 2024?
Just being polite in asking.

Rabz
November 8, 2022 1:43 pm

A day in the life of a Newscorpse comments moderator (three examples):

Rent a womb – REJECTED
COP27 is a UN shakedown – REJECTED
John Fetterman is clearly severely brain damaged – REJECTED

Thou shalt not state the bleeding obvious, peons.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 1:47 pm

It’s very, very good, Dot. Who could forget Mr. Elliott’s vast array of medals including the VC? 😀

But the author must learn to spell. He has been throttled by Apostrophe Man.

Signed, A Pedant

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 1:48 pm

Singed,

Blanche d’Apendant

Sultry medieval recreational performer.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 1:49 pm

Zippy, I wasn’t having a go at you. It was more the two conflicting figures on the ABS website. The thing was at least 30,000 births out of whack.

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 1:50 pm

VC and Bar, (Uganda) to you, peasant.

duncanm
duncanm
November 8, 2022 1:51 pm

So this might lead to something interesting.

re: Seven Nill-again and Senator Henderson quizzy the ABC (Anderson) in estimates:

Liberal senator Sarah Henderson has tabled a letter of complaint from ACT bar association president Rebecca Curran which calls Milligan’s speech “insensitive and polemical” and said members were left “deeply offended and distressed”.

meanwhile

“This is the second time she has told something to parliament about me that is completely inaccurate. Rebecca Curran from the ACT Bar Association both thanked me for my speech and pitched me a story on the night,” Milligan tweeted.

so which is it? Either Rebecca Curran is being misquoted by someone, or she is playing both sides.

I suspect the former, in which case she’s bound to come out swinging at someone.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 1:51 pm

Fliing Duck:

Sad isn’t it? I worked side by side with the Police for decades when I was a Paramedic/Retrieval Dr/Volunteer Fireman. Now my standard position is to assume they are going to hurt/frame me and to be as obstructive as possible.

Ditto.
20 years of remote area nursing where you had to be in synch with the local coppers and develop and maintain good working relationships, and that’s the position I find myself in as well.
I had the fortune to have a pair of them arrive a few weeks ago for a welfare check, and my first thought as they knocked on the front door was “What have they found out?” 🙂
No. The Police Force have worked hard to become public enemy over the last two years, as far as I’m concerned – No Amnesty!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 8, 2022 1:52 pm
Rabz
November 8, 2022 1:54 pm

He told the story about how they were driving through, I think it was Nevada and/or Utah. Roads were marked at 80 mph. They were dutifully sitting right on the limit but were being passed by other traffic within clear sight of highway patrol cars. When they stopped for the night he commented about it at a bar they were eating at. The explanation was that you have immunity (up to a point) there and in several neighbouring counties “unless you are carrying Californian plates”

Aha – so that explains why the cop pulled me over in Arkansas for doing 82 in an 80 zone while trying to overtake a truck. Our car had Californian plates. “You boys both from Australia?” Let us off with a warning as he knew the chances of any fine being paid was zero.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 1:57 pm

Flyn’duk:

Arriving home in the full on top to toe back letterbox freedom sack was not a good sign.

Of course not – it was a statement of intent. And contempt.
FFS.
Unless a person has close contact with this culture, it is very difficult to believe the contempt they have for ours. 6 months in the early 90’s was enough for my eyes to be well and truly opened.

Lysander
Lysander
November 8, 2022 1:58 pm

While I think the Dems will cheat like hell tomorrow, I do believe there are still enough pissed of yankies to turn up and vote for the Reds to win both houses.

For example, it’s hardly surprising that there’s been a 27% (!!!!!) turn around in white women’s vote from Dem to Republican. Not hard to believe those numbers when they’re still the ones shopping and seeing a dozen eggs for $20, a quart of milk for $8 and loaf of bread of $6.

It’s also hardly surprising that even more Hispanics have woken up to the Godless (aka “Satanic”) dictatorship in the White House. They are not tacos.

Reports are also independent voters are breaking 70/30 for Republicans.

The black vote has shifted slightly but am always amazed as to why they allow the Dems to keep them in the plantations (and why that demographic allow themselves to be kept there).

cohenite
November 8, 2022 1:58 pm

Trump/DeSantis petition:

DonRon:

With the nation facing difficult challenges like high gas prices, historic inflation, and an immigration crisis, it’s clear that we need strong, conservative, dependable leaders now more than ever. America needs a Trump-DeSantis ticket for 2024 if we want to get our country back on the right track. Join us to Make America Great Again – and KEEP it that way. Make your voices heard to both President Donald J. Trump and Governor Ron DeSantis!

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 2:04 pm

thanked me for my speech and pitched me a story on the night

Let’s break that down…

thanked me for my speech

All good there. That’s what polite hosts do regardless of what they think eg. she comes back here again over my dead body.

pitched me a story

What story? More details please. Could mean anything.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 2:06 pm

Directors Identification Number – a thirty minute wait on the phone – they will call you back – fifteen minutes providing your details – Passport number, Medicare Number, and your tax agent – all done and dusted. Not half the circus I thought it would be.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 2:08 pm

Big Nambas:

Wind and Solar……..Bwahahahahahahahahahah
The body that runs Western Australia’s biggest power system may have to spend tens of millions of dollars hiring diesel-fired backup generators as part of desperate efforts to keep the lights on this summer.

I wonder where they are going to get the diesel from to run the gensets?
The whole thing is self inflicted, and no one has the integrity to admit they’ve buggered the entire thing up – and now it’s way too late to get the coal and diesel stockpiles up to snuff, or even convert the coal to nuclear stations.
It’s like watching a man and a bull in a head butting competition – the man knows he’s going to lose, and badly, but is hanging on to the chance the bull may have a heart attack, or miss, or something.

P
P
November 8, 2022 2:09 pm

According to Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump is rumoured to be ready to make an “announcement” at tonight’s rally in Dayton OH. Trump rally livecast.

Announcement on Tues 15th Nov.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 2:10 pm

My money is on the bull, Winston. They tried to shoot it and missed.

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 2:12 pm

America needs a Trump-DeSantis ticket for 2024

DeSantis spending 4 years as a Vice President would be a criminal waste of talent and leadership.

Florida wouldn’t be happy about losing their Governor either, until it’s time to loan him to the country as President that is.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 2:12 pm

“The reality is that these technologies exist, and rich people will use them. You need to stop yelling at clouds.

Firstly, you don’t tell what to say, what to write and what to do. Oh and I’ll yell at anything I want to. Last I heard you’re not the chief censor here.

BTW, did any long time Cat reader not think of Lizzie when the WIP image of the crying baby who was leaving Twitter, but closely monitoring responses, came up?”

Secondly, last night you appeared here to lecture people to ignore certain commentators and stating, grandly, that you don’t come to this site very often. Yet here you are again today, and once again obsessed with Lizzie. You can’t even live up to your own dictates, unless of course it’s a case of “rules for thee and none for me”? Don’t worry Johanna, you don’t need to answer this, most of us here already know the answer to that.

Tom
Tom
November 8, 2022 2:13 pm

At his Ohio rally, Donald Trump has just said he will announce his candidacy to become president again on Tuesday, November 15.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 2:13 pm

rickw:

Swamp @ Work
Imagine the wealth of Australia if it wasn’t for all these useless troughers.

Can I have “pile of skulls*” instead please Rick?
*Not a death threat*

Lysander
Lysander
November 8, 2022 2:16 pm

So… if New Hampshire blows big to Republicans… (and their results do come out fairly quickly) can we expect a red tidal wave? Even CNN is conceding this (although they are hedging their bets by saying it could also be “extremely tight”) which they say means it’ll be tight across the rest of the US.

Voting closes at 8pm, Tuesday in NH. So results should start coming out around 10am, Thursday (if I can add!)…

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 8, 2022 2:18 pm

Albanese: forests burned which had never burnt before!
Which aspect of forest management is he missing here?
Answer: the recommendation by every inquiry into bushfires, that regular fuel reduction burns be carried out.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 8, 2022 2:19 pm

We have a bushfire down the road.

Is it a Cly mutt fire?

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 8, 2022 2:21 pm

Tucker Carlson said that Politico is warning of the many ways elections can be gamed!
But, but – we were assured that 2020 was the most secure election ever, and all those methods were disinformation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 2:21 pm

m0ntysays:
November 8, 2022 at 1:25 pm
Musk discusses putting all of Twitter behind a paywall

I tipped this.

And so what if he does?
Do you collect revenue from your Phantasy Phootball site?

Arky
November 8, 2022 2:28 pm

Time: forty minutes ago.
Scene: track near my place.
Ambulance across the track, I walk up into the soggy bush land to get around it thinking to myself “Runner had heart attack? Bicycle accident? Elderly stroke victim”?
No. Tattooed fat idiot frothing at the mouth and raving while ambo shouts “Spit it out. Spit it out”!
Walk a bit further, another ambulance coming, driver asks me for directions to the scene.
Nice. One drug addict idiot, two ambulances, four medics.
But you know, drug use is a victimless crime.
Meanwhile, the old granny down the road with a chest full of stents who needs to get to A&E. Well, she can just bloody wait eh?

Rabz
November 8, 2022 2:28 pm

They are not tacos

Another great moment in tone deaf tin eared political idiocy as so effortlessly practiced by the dumbocrats.

“Basket of Deplorables”, anyone?

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 2:34 pm

Fatboy:

Whatever Musk does, don’t forget he helped setting up PayPal, set up a carmaker from scratch, which has the largest margin per car in the business, built a space business and also has the boring company. He’s one of the best business brains in the world. Moreover, he said that even though the odds are against him, he believes Twitter could become one of the most valuable businesses in the word.

You on the other hand are sitting around gulping down donuts by the dozen and show no humility when discussing Musk and Twitter.

You oversized fat nincompoop.

cohenite
November 8, 2022 2:37 pm

Please Mr Trump, I am begging you, announce your 2024 candidacy as soon as possible. For the good of the nation and the world.

Dickless humour.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 2:38 pm

Arky:

… A large chunk of very unwise people are locking us into a future of expensive and limited transportation, in the hope that some future technological solutions will fix the plethora of likely failure points in their plans.
It’s insanity.

No, it’s very logical. The automobile opened up the continent of Australia to the peasants, and the aeoroplane the world.
They want all this stuff for themselves so are making it more expensive.
The reasoning is that if an EV half way through its life has a distance of 300Km, then people won’t drive more than 100 -150 Km unless range is extended well beyond what is available today.
Same with air travel. If the rich are the only ones who can afford to travel by air, they assume they will get all these lovely facilities for themselves.
This, however refuses to take into account the facilities will no longer be there because mass travel has subsidised them for the rich – everyone was a winner!
I know it sounds stupid and it is. But how do you get past trying to explain the effort of the oil tycoon trying to destroy the mass economy while at the same time they think they’ll still be able to buy $500 bottles of Scotch, or Steinway pianos, or Rolls Royce cars?
Unless the subsidisation by the masses for Johnny Walker Red label, or Diahatsu or any other mass good continues, who will open Disney Worlds or launch satellites, or build the machinery for making differential/gearboxes?
It’s almost impossible to get it through to some people just how interlocking the modern economy is, and just how fragile it can be. They are idiots tearing down a house because they want to make a tent out of the roofing material, without thinking of the winter ahead.
Decisions have consequences, even for billionaires.

m0nty
m0nty
November 8, 2022 2:43 pm

Judith Sloan on 357 large, LOL. It’s good to be a courtier.

Lysander
Lysander
November 8, 2022 2:46 pm

Judith Sloan on 357 large

Munt, 400kgs of lard.

FIFY.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 2:46 pm

In 5,000 k’s of driving recently in the USA did not see one speed camera.

Land of the Free (there) versus Land of the Nanny-State & Thieves of the Taxpayer (here)

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 8, 2022 2:47 pm

One of the better movies you will ever see about prison & a burgeoning police state.

Australian, a little flawed in bits but very very good.

Ghosts of the civil dead.
Whole movie here, never seen it on youtube before its been very hard to track down for years.

Or skip to 1:21 or so for the ending monologue by the young/old crim about his life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6DpQU5rXDU

Basically letting thugs out to reoffend is a criminal justice business model.
Every headline reoffender increases the levers of power on the rest of the population.

Im not 100% convinced of the cause/effect, but I can state the whistleblower prison warders experience basically mirrored my own working in detention. All the warnings and intel disappeared after the incidents kick off so there is no paper trail showing management failed to manage.

Nudity/ violence/ unpleasantness warning for those not liking such things.

Arky
November 8, 2022 2:47 pm

Same with air travel. If the rich are the only ones who can afford to travel by air, they assume they will get all these lovely facilities for themselves.
This, however refuses to take into account the facilities will no longer be there because mass travel has subsidised them for the rich – everyone was a winner!

..
Agree with the thrust of what you are saying, but I think air travel is the anomaly in that lot. I think on an average flight the first class prices are subsidising the punters in the back. Whether the same number of routes could exist without mass air travel- dunno.

m0nty
m0nty
November 8, 2022 2:51 pm

Whatever Musk does, don’t forget he helped setting up PayPal, set up a carmaker from scratch, which has the largest margin per car in the business, built a space business and also has the boring company.

He didn’t found PayPal, Tesla or Space X. He used his dad’s emerald mine fortune to buy up existing businesses.

He does have a knack for timing, I will give him that. Space X has taken advantage of endless government contracts at a time when Obama wanted to foster a private space industry. Tesla has ridden a green hype wave nicely. His luck may have run out his time through.

cohenite
November 8, 2022 2:51 pm

Judith Sloan on 357 large, LOL. It’s good to be a courtier.

More dickless humour. Superior cock-uppery.

Lysander
Lysander
November 8, 2022 2:53 pm

Since when, and why, does their ABC get away with the repeated lie that they “are not responsible for their journalist’s social media posts?”

Is there any way that legitimacy can be tested?

FOI?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 8, 2022 2:53 pm

Monty putting Elons multiple successes down to just good luck.

No-Dick energy.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 8, 2022 2:53 pm

Zatara says:
November 8, 2022 at 2:12 pm

DeSantis spending 4 years as a Vice President would be a criminal waste of talent and leadership.

It wouldn’t necessarily be a waste Zatara, it depends on how they divide the responsibilities. Trump could spend his last term focussing on and fixing the mess that they have made with America’s foreign relations, and DeSantis could focus on the internal problems in the US, of which there are many.

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 2:54 pm

HBBear:

Is Wilson the mother, father or something or other. It’s so complicated apparently.

The term you are looking for is “Co-conspirator”.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 3:00 pm

Big excitement! They’re water bombing from the lake. The chopper has made several passes and the skies are raining ash.

Big bushfire over in the Mambo wetland. Must have got out of hand again. The whole place is flooded, but clearly there’s plenty fit to burn.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 3:01 pm

The term you are looking for is “Co-conspirator”.

The word you seek is “owner”. The child was bought.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 3:02 pm

The word you seek is “owner”. The child was bought.”

Correct calli.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 3:04 pm

Alex Antic versus Hanson-Young – the video

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 3:06 pm

It’s a form of human trafficking dolled up to look cute.

Similar to children removed from villages by the wealthy rather than supporting the places with money and resources which they can well afford and allowing the children to be raised by their families.

It has always been about access and ownership, not altruism.

Razey
Razey
November 8, 2022 3:08 pm

Alex Antic versus Hanson-Young – the video

It’s a man baby, yeah!

– Austin Powers

Razey
Razey
November 8, 2022 3:10 pm

Aboriginals must be thinking, ‘we lost to these freaks’?

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 3:17 pm

Arky:

but I think air travel is the anomaly in that lot. I think on an average flight the first class prices are subsidising the punters in the back. Whether the same number of routes could exist without mass air travel- dunno.

Yair.
Look, I chucked that one up in the air on the basis that much of the costs of the non economy classes were probably being subsidised by the taxpayer/business owner/etc. I just don’t have any figures for that, however by the time you even the prices out, I feel the subsidisation is evening out the costs to the individual.

Indolent
Indolent
November 8, 2022 3:18 pm

I have to agree with him. Who are we to tell others how to live?

West has no right to impose its values on world – Putin

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 3:26 pm

Calli/Cassie:
I think we are just agreeing with each other.
Conspiracy to create and buy a human – i.e. procuring a slave. Just an unusual way of describing the mechanism of an unusual transaction.

Can I come back to this later? I was eating a boiled lolly and bit down a bit hard – I think I’ve impacted/crushed a molar and a filling is pushed into a nerve.
Thank God I was able to get an emergency dental appointment this afternoon…

Indolent
Indolent
November 8, 2022 3:29 pm

This supposedly happened on 30th October. The fact that no one else has mentioned it, does not necessarily mean it’s false. We can only hope.

Special Forces Arrest Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 8, 2022 3:31 pm

Gruinaid article on Alex Antic making baby Sarah cry and their ABCcess get the sads.

So I was right when i thought it was a drag queen used in the ABC play school promos.

Liberal senators have accused the ABC of “grooming children” and allowing employees to “run rogue” on social media in a fiery and at times chaotic Senate estimates hearing.

South Australian Liberal senator Alex Antic made the claim about grooming over a Play School segment that featured drag queen Courtney Act reading a story about dressing up.

The claim was rejected by ABC management.

“Why is the ABC grooming children with this sort of adult content?” Antic told the Senate hearing on Tuesday.

Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young said Antic’s language was “deeply, deeply offensive”.

“Grooming is a really serious matter. It is not for being played with by conservative senators to make headlines.”

The ABC’s managing director David Anderson denied the accusation, saying “we are not grooming Australian children”.

“What we are doing, that is about dressing up,” he said.*

Also during the hearing, Liberal senator Sarah Henderson said the ABC’s social media policy was “broken” after Four Corners reporter Louise Milligan and radio producer Katie Hamann live-tweeted their responses to Henderson’s claims in the Senate.

“This is why your social media guidelines are a complete joke,” Henderson, the shadow minister for communications, said to Anderson.

“This is why they are broken, because you are letting your employees run rogue on social media.”

Hamann, the acting executive producer of RN Drive, was responding to a claim by Henderson that at one stage the program hosted by Andy Park had nine producers.

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The ABC told Guardian Australia this claim was incorrect. RN Drive, which produces 95 minutes of current affairs each weekday, has four producers and two of them job share.

Anderson, who said staff’s Twitter accounts are personal and the ABC takes no responsibility for them, responded: “It’s not a joke”.

Henderson also asked Anderson about a speech Milligan gave to a women’s legal event in Canberra last month, which has been the subject of several articles in the Australian newspaper.

Milligan’s speech to the ACT Bar Association, which has not been released publicly, reflected on the impact of traumatic cross-examination on vulnerable complainants of sexual crimes.

Stories in the Australian and Henderson claimed it upset some of the female lawyers who attended.

Milligan also posted several tweets disputing what Henderson said about her, claiming it was “completely fictitious”. “And the opposite of what I said in my speech”.

“This is the second time she has told something to parliament about me that is completely inaccurate.”

When Henderson was made aware of Milligan’s tweets she asked Anderson to comment on them, but he refused.

The ABC backed Milligan by releasing a statement listing examples of her journalism and a raft of awards, including I Am That Girl, a Four Corners report which led to changes in NSW consent laws.

“Louise Milligan is one of Australia’s most experienced and awarded journalists and her work has added enormously to the public good of this nation,” a spokesperson said. “The ABC’s journalists are held to the highest standards and subjected to the closest scrutiny of any in this country.

“The ABC feels it’s necessary to put this information on the record as it’s so often overlooked in the commentary and reporting on Ms Milligan.”**

The estimates hearing had to be suspended twice because senators were shouting over each other.

Liberal Senator Alex Antic at ABC Estimates actually asked “Why does having a diverse workforce improve the output of the ABC?”

— Greg Jericho (@GrogsGamut) November 8, 2022
Anderson earlier refused to provide the pay details of the organisation’s highest-paid staff, claiming public interest immunity.

Henderson said there were no grounds for the ABC to make a public interest immunity claim and a similar claim from Australia Post had been rejected.

Henderson claimed there is “a lot of concern within the ABC about the inequitable allocation of resources”.

“There are some programs and divisions that are completely impoverished and others that are overflowing with staff”, and she cited RN Drive as an example.

“I don’t think there are areas at the ABC that are overflowing with staff,” Anderson replied.

The committee stopped broadcasting to hold a private hearing to consider the public interest immunity claim but failed to resolve the issue.

The hearing continues.

* Mmmmmyessss, and who better to use than an ABC speed dial pervert.
** That answers the question is louise 9-Nuilligan a hill their ABC will die on..

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 3:35 pm

Trump could spend his last term focussing on and fixing the mess that they have made with America’s foreign relations, and DeSantis could focus on the internal problems in the US, of which there are many.

Not a bad thought Old bloke, but I’d rather they keep their distance from each other so one political hand grenade doesn’t take them both out.

If Trump does run he will be elected. Unlike his last term he will be focussed on ripping the entrenched scum out of the federal govt and salting the ground to prevent it returning (while repairing the economy, closing the border, etc.etc.). The fact that he will be extracting the sweetest of revenge while he is at it is merely coincidental, but will be highly entertaining to watch.

The international relations stuff he can do in his spare time or on weekends and still do 1000% better than the current pres.

It’s best for DeSantis to stand clear of all that I think. He isn’t needed there and will definitely get mud splattered on him if he is.

Indolent
Indolent
November 8, 2022 3:35 pm
Zipster
November 8, 2022 3:40 pm

81.4% #Dem
7.5% #GOP

dems are mindless sheep, the democrat elite could rub their faces in shit and they would still vote the same

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 8, 2022 3:45 pm

COVID shots linked to plummeting fertility, study says

A jab in the dick will do that.

miltonf
miltonf
November 8, 2022 3:47 pm

Anderson earlier refused to provide the pay details of the organisation’s highest-paid staff, claiming public interest immunity.
Isn’t that against pubic service guidelines? They are completely out of control and need to be brought into line.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 8, 2022 3:48 pm

Sorry couldn’t find a transcript on Somyurek appearing on Mitchell’s show but this is the best I could do. 12 minute interview.
https://www.3aw.com.au/adem-somyurek-tells-daniel-andrews-to-pull-his-head-in/

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 3:49 pm

So this might lead to something interesting.

re: Seven Nill-again and Senator Henderson quizzy the ABC (Anderson) in estimates

More of the same from the ALPBC. Got to protect the hive.

Zipster
November 8, 2022 3:52 pm

BREAKING: Fetterman campaign issues memo warning of a ‘long week’ for a ‘process that takes several days’ before results are in – lashes out at Mastriano, Tucker, Trump, Ted Cruz

cheating locked in

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 8, 2022 3:53 pm

eSafety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant — who previously worked in policy and safety at Twitter — told a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday that the move could jeopardise safety online, and allow misinformation to flourish.

A national embarrassment.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 3:54 pm

Judith Sloan on 357 large, LOL. It’s good to be a courtier.

Imagine in you hadn’t failed Econs 101.

miltonf
miltonf
November 8, 2022 3:56 pm

Grant is imported swamp filth from DC

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 3:57 pm

Since when, and why, does their ABC get away with the repeated lie that they “are not responsible for their journalist’s social media posts?”

Standard operating procedure at the ALPBC: See also Having your cake and eating it too.

Jorge
Jorge
November 8, 2022 3:58 pm

Thankfully Roger Moore is still in rude good health

Good news about Roger. Brightened an otherwise dull day.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 4:00 pm

“Louise Milligan is one of Australia’s most experienced and awarded journalists and her work has added enormously to the public good of this nation,

Cardinal Pell was unavailable for comment.

miltonf
miltonf
November 8, 2022 4:02 pm

ROME — Pope Francis has defended his choice of pro-abortion economist Mariana Mazzucato for the Pontifical Academy for Life, insisting Sunday that she will add some “humanity” to the Academy.-a joke? Apparently not. The first truly evil pope in my lifetime.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 4:09 pm

““Louise Milligan is one of Australia’s most experienced and awarded journalists and her work has added enormously to the public good of this nation,”

Well, her work has certainly destroyed a a few people…

Cardinal George Pell
Christian Porter
Andrew Laming
Alan Tudge

Morsie
Morsie
November 8, 2022 4:14 pm

Correct me if this is incorrect but I had thought that you cant have a Presidential candidate and Vice Presidential candidate from the same state.If so , no Trump and Desantis ticket.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 8, 2022 4:15 pm

But you know, drug use is a victimless crime. Meanwhile, the old granny down the road with a chest full of stents who needs to get to A&E. Well, she can just bloody wait eh?

Er, no, in a libertarian, adult world, *both* would face the consequences for their actions, the drug user would not be rescued by the ‘system’ and neither would ‘granny’. Both would have earned, over a long life of good deeds, the respect of their family and neighbours who would be there to help them when needed. Or, had they not earned such, they would have had to wait for charity, however long it took.

The drug user would have probably perished already, or in the very least, long since run out of funds for drugs, or been jailed stealing to fund them.

And, ‘granny’, being elderly and in poor health, would have recognised that and surrounded herself with caring friends and relatives, who’s favour she had earned, or she would have, in the very least, insured her risk.

Both, by assuming ‘society’ would bail them out, failed an important test of adulting.

m0nty
m0nty
November 8, 2022 4:17 pm

DeSantis is not going to be Trump’s VP. He is still young, he can wait out the Trump era.

miltonf
miltonf
November 8, 2022 4:17 pm

I don’t think even Trump realized how rotten the big business-DC-meja establishment was. I know I certainly didn’t. He really lifted up the corrugated iron sheet to reveal the swirling vermin.

Arky
November 8, 2022 4:27 pm

Er, no, in a libertarian, adult world,

..
In a fantasy you mean then.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 4:27 pm

How’s this for some election porn.

One Bank Predicts Republicans Pick Up 75 Seats In The House And 11 In The Senate

I think it’s total bullshit, but boy it would be great.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 4:28 pm

Oh look, it’s the National Socialist.

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 4:38 pm

Morsie,

There’s no law or regulation against a president and vice president of the United States being from the same state. The reason why some people mistakenly believe such a prohibition exists comes down to a particular aspect of the Electoral College system laid out in Article II of the U.S. Constitution.

America 101: Can the president and vice president be from the same state?

So at worst, in the Trump/DeSantis example, it would only effect electors from Florida.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 4:38 pm

Since when, and why, does their ABC get away with the repeated lie that they “are not responsible for their journalist’s social media posts?”

Oh, OK.
So why did they pick up the legal tab for Seven-Nilligan’s defamatory posts on social media then?

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 8, 2022 4:38 pm

m0nty says:
November 8, 2022 at 4:17 pm

DeSantis is not going to be Trump’s VP. He is still young, he can wait out the Trump era.

It looks like he’ll have to wait for Trump’s term to finish if Morsie is right, i.e., can’t have the President / VP from the same state.

Rabz
November 8, 2022 4:40 pm

when, and why, does their ABC get away with the repeated lie that they “are not responsible for their journalist’s social media posts?”

So why are taxpayers forced to pay the defamation court case costs arising from the social media posts of the ALPBC’s j’ismists?

Rabz
November 8, 2022 4:41 pm

Snap, Pancho, I should have refreshed first …

John Brumble
John Brumble
November 8, 2022 4:42 pm

There’s a lot the left does that’s offensive to basic intelligence.

The most recent one is the confected outrage over Elon Musk banning people for impersonating others – as if requiring someone to identify a parody account as a parody account is the same as stopping them, and anyone else with the same view point, from speaking at all.

At least some of these people have to know that this is just bulldust. And yet they continue to parrot the line anyway.

Yet another example of how the truth doesn’t matter to these people; only power and control.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 4:45 pm

d

over0beach says:
November 8, 2022 at 4:10 pm

cheating locked in

As I link to in the comments on the mid-terms thread, cheating is going to be a lot harder in 2022 as Rs have more poll watchers, workers, and the like this time around.

Dover, the Demonrats in the essentially black urban areas threw out the Republican poll watchers in 2020. You think they won’t do it again? Why?

This would impact the senate races.

You appear to be very trusting of a system and process that cannot be audited or accounted for. If they can cheat, they will do it again.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 4:48 pm

Roger Moore is no longer with us?

Must be dangerous being a Bond. Out of the seven actors to portray the great man, three have gone to that great Q Branch in the sky.

Frank
Frank
November 8, 2022 4:52 pm

“Alex Antic versus Hanson-Young”

The ABC guy trying to explain the benefits of diversity didn’t manage to come up with much content. A bit slack since these guys have had decades to think up an answer.

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 4:52 pm

JC,

In 2020 the Republicans had just come out from under an almost 40 year consent decree which prevented them from carrying out anti-vote fraud activities and working the voting polls, particularly in predominantly black districts. They were out of practice and unsure of their rights and such.

To correct that the party has done massive recruiting and training of poll watchers etc. and have an army of lawyers on tap for tomorrow.

miltonf
miltonf
November 8, 2022 4:56 pm

40 year consent decree which prevented them from carrying out anti-vote fraud activities and working the voting polls

what was the reasoning behind that? unreal

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 4:57 pm

Gives a whole new meaning to “getting on the piss” at the Xmas party:

‘Private urination incident’ at centre of ‘concerning’ allegations at Senate estimates

Stunning revelations of a “private urination incident” have come to light during a grilling in Senate estimates.

NCA NewsWire

A senior male executive at the nation’s animal and pesticide regulator resigned after he was alleged to have urinated on staff members.

Agriculture Minister Murray Watt is now seeking an urgent briefing from the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) following the stunning revelations at Senate estimates on Tuesday.

Chief executive Lisa Croft was grilled on the matter, alleged to have occurred at a Christmas party, by Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson.

“Was such an incident reported to you and if so, was there any action taken,” he asked.

Ms Croft confirmed she was “aware of the matter” but insisted the incident took place at a private event, and not at the organisation’s office Christmas party as was suggested.

“I am not aware of it in that context; not at a Christmas party,” the chief executive initially said.

“I am aware of an incident that occurred in a private capacity, not at a work function.”

She said people directly involved made her aware of the matter, but no official complaint was made.

“I understand that the people directly involved wanted me to be aware of the matter,” she said.

The issue was raised with the APVMA human resources team and the staff member resigned shortly after.

Senator Watt told the committee he would be seeking an “urgent briefing” from the department.

“These are very concerning questions. It is certainly the first time I have heard about it and I will be seeking an urgent briefing,” he said.

Ms Croft also took questions on notice about the organisation’s staff issues and low morale.

Cassie of Sydney
November 8, 2022 4:58 pm

Umm, I don’t think it was an accident….from The Oz….

Sydney University student ‘shocked’ to be characterised in exam as ‘HIV positive’

A Sydney University student says she has been left feeling “shocked and embarrassed” after her identity was used in a bizarre exam scenario which depicted her as a fanatical conservative who ran over a left-wing man in a Mercedes and had sex while knowing she has HIV.

Law student Freya Leach, 19, said she was confused and then horrified when she began receiving dozens of messages from her classmates who had begun their criminal law take-home final assessment and discovered it featured a “right-wing” woman named Freya.

In the colourful legal scenario set out in the assignment, Freya “puts her foot on the accelerator” and runs over a left-winger in a Mercedes to give “that chardonnay socialist a fright” and drives away.

She also has “penile-vaginal sex” with an engaged man while knowing she is “HIV positive” later in the scenario.

Ms Leach – who is active in the Young Liberal Club and the University of Sydney ?Conservative Club – said the fact so many of her fellow students had believed her to be the Freya had left her feeling singled out

“It’s beyond comprehension that one of the country’s most prestigious law schools would be reduced to such personalised attacks against its students for having different views,” she told The Australian.

“At best it’s incompetence, at worst it’s malice. I don’t know in what world it is acceptable to use students’ (identities) in exams.”

Ms Leach said she believed she was being targeted by the left on campus after she spoke out against a wave of “zoom bombing”, a form of industrial action in which students intentionally disrupt online lessons as part of a push by the National Tertiary Education Union for better pay and conditions.

’It’s beyond comprehension that one of the country’s most prestigious law schools would be reduced to such personalised attacks against its students for having different views,’ Freya Leach says.

“I am well-known around campus for my involvement in student politics,” she said.

“So it is almost inconceivable to think it’s an accident, given my name is not common and everyone has been able to piece it together and identify it as me.

“I think it’s really concerning that faculties think they can abuse their power to single out students for political beliefs.

“It has vilified me among the left on campus, it has tainted me as the caricature of a right-wing person driving a Mercedes, and it’s totally unfair and unacceptable.”

Ms Leach has written to the Dean of the law school to ask for an apology and an extension on completing the exam as she had been “so stressed” she hasn’t been able to bring herself to attempt to complete the assignment.

The University of Sydney was contacted for comment.”

I think she needs to take legal action.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
November 8, 2022 4:58 pm

WA could banish fast-food outlets from being near schools in radical new plan to fix the state’s growing obesity crisis

In a state where most of the residents are overweight and the capital city is littered with fast-food joints, WA Health have launched a bold plan to try and tackle the ballooning crisis.

Fast-food outlets could see their hours slashed and radical new restrictions imposed on their locations as Western Australia floats ideas on how to tackle the state’s growing obesity epidemic.

WA Health made the bold proposal in their latest attempt to fix the obesity crisis.

One in four children and 71 per cent of adults in the state are overweight or obese and it is the leading risk factor for death, disease, and disability in Western Australia.

Keeping fast-food away from schools was a key aspect of the report, as 86 per cent of schools in the state have at least one fast-food store within a 1km radius.

“Perth schools had an average of 1.8 fast food outlets located within 400m; 5.7 fast food outlets within 800m; and 8.1 fast food outlets within 1km,” the report said.

The report recommended changing planning laws to “limit unhealthy food outlets and to support access to healthy food options including near schools”.

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 5:01 pm

what was the reasoning behind that? unreal

Some questionable tactics on the Republican’s part which could have been made into a nasty civil/voting rights case. The Republicans folded and signed a consent decree which tied their hands and kept being extended by Dem friendly judges.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 5:01 pm

Zat
I said to Dover the other day that I hope he’s right and now, I hope you are too. They were throwing folks out of the rooms in 2020 and by sheer coincidence it mostly occurred in the large black urban centers.

Let’s assume you’re right, how are the vote machines protected from tampering?

How comfortable are you with chain of custody issues?

Who is watching over the mail-in votes, and why today, in Philly was the Demonrat machine requesting party affiliation of questionable votes be identified?

There’s a lot of smelly rats.

miltonf
miltonf
November 8, 2022 5:02 pm

Just fuck off pubic serpent busybodies.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 8, 2022 5:02 pm

The Repubs had been using the cops to discourage minorities [blacks, indians, mexicans] from voting Democrat.
No indication of which minority, where, or how organised it was, but for whatever reason the Repubs didn’t want the bad publicity and signed the Consent Order.

miltonf
miltonf
November 8, 2022 5:03 pm

Thanks Zatara

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
November 8, 2022 5:03 pm

BALTIMORE — The city is expected to announce next week the offer of a guaranteed income if squeegee kids stay out of city intersections.

The size of the paycheck is still unclear; however, the city is currently offering potential criminals $375 a month in a separate program if they refrain from shooting other people.

Directors of the city’s Group Violence Reduction Strategy detailed the stipend program at City Hall on Wednesday.

If participants remain crime-free, the city vows to provide educational opportunities, housing assistance, and stipends for completing a resume, going on a job interview, and meeting with a life coach.

“In order to incentivize folks and give them an opportunity to advance in their life,” explained Director Shantay Jackson.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 5:04 pm

Zat

The voting machines are freaking terrifying from a honesty perspective.

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 5:06 pm

The size of the paycheck is still unclear; however, the city is currently offering potential criminals $375 a month in a separate program if they refrain from shooting other people.

Um, that’s a tribute.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 5:06 pm

Ed Case says:
November 8, 2022 at 5:02 pm

The Repubs had been using the cops to discourage minorities [blacks, indians, mexicans] from voting Democrat.

Oh yea, how did they discourage them? It was always rumored by the Demons but never proven to be the case. In other words, it was total bullshit.

Speedbox
November 8, 2022 5:08 pm

Arky says:
November 8, 2022 at 2:47 pm
Agree with the thrust of what you are saying, but I think air travel is the anomaly in that lot. I think on an average flight the first class prices are subsidising the punters in the back. Whether the same number of routes could exist without mass air travel- dunno.

Years ago I managed major corporate contracts with airlines. On several occasions I was told that it was the income from the punters in economy (assuming economy class was full) who paid all the costs and secured the base yield of flying a particular route – business/first passengers were the ‘cream’.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 5:08 pm

Thanks @TuckerCarlson for inviting me to discuss @GOP’s election integrity efforts. Republicans have hundreds of lawyers in the field & are better poised to take action this election than at any time in my life.

Hahahahahaha.. In say Philly with a demonrat appointed judge. Don’t make me laugh.

cohenite
November 8, 2022 5:08 pm

Antic against that skank sarah 2-dads was good. Some (sic) hope for the lnp with antic and a few others left.

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 5:12 pm

Speedbox

Earlier, Thought Leadership referred to first class passengers as subsidizing the cattle class. There’s no such thing as a subsidy in these cases. It’s simply pricing strategy.

Subsidy has a specific meaning in economics and finance and it isn’t pricing strategy for goods and services.

Leon L.
Leon L.
November 8, 2022 5:13 pm

cohenite says:
November 8, 2022 at 5:08 pm
Antic against that skank sarah 2-dads was good. Some (sic) hope for the lnp with antic and a few others left.

I will bet an arm and a leg that Alex Antic and Gerard Rennick are 3 on the senate tickets of their respective states.

Johnny Rotten
November 8, 2022 5:13 pm

Saint Peter is sitting at the Pearly Gates when two black and two Mexican guys arrive.

St. Peter looked out through the Gates and said “Wait here. I will be right back”.

St. Peter goes over to God’s chambers and tells him who is waiting for entrance.

God says to Peter “How many times do I have to tell you? You can’t be racist and judgmental here. This is heaven. All are loved. All are brothers. Go back and let them in!”

St. Peter goes back to the Gates, looks around, and lets out a heavy sigh.

He returns to God’s chambers and says “Well, they’re gone”. “Who, the black and Mexican guys?” asked God. “No. The Pearly Gates”.

Bruce
Bruce
November 8, 2022 5:15 pm

@ zipster:

“ave of 300k births up to 21 and only 74k in 2022”

Were nesting couples really that serious about “social distancing”?

Or, has biological fertility taken a massive hit, for some undisclosed reason?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 5:15 pm

They breed ’em weird in Tasmania.

Then again, Burnie is Jackie Jackie country:

A man who flashed and waved his scrotum at police after giving them “the bird” could serve jail time.

Jacum Edward Hope, caught the attention of police on October 28 last year as they drove down a street in Burnie.

The Burnie Magistrates Court heard Hope came outside a house in a Belton St as they went past, stuck up his middle finger and flashed his scrotum while uttering abuse.

Hope was also found guilty of other charges including evading police and reckless driving and driving with ice and amphetamine in his system.

Magistrate Katie Edwards adjourned Hope’s sentencing so a pre-sentence report could be prepared.

“You are in a lot of trouble but I will look at sentencing options,” Magistrate Edwards said.

“But you are at risk of a term of imprisonment.”

Those sentencing options could include community service or enrolment in a court-mandated drug program.

Johnny Rotten
November 8, 2022 5:16 pm

Tiggers don’t like honey.

– A. A. Milne

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 5:16 pm

Must be dangerous being a Bond.

Sixty year anniversary passed uncelebrated. Dr No came out on 5 Oct 1962.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
November 8, 2022 5:20 pm

Couple ‘kept man as slave’ in London home ‘so they could harvest kidney for daughter’

A husband and wife and their daughter plotted to harvest a man’s kidney after keeping him as a slave in their London home, a court has heard. Ike Ekweremadu, 60, and wife Beatrice Nwanneka Ekweremadu, 55, are accused of transporting a 21-year-old homeless man from Nigeria to London.

Prosecutors allege that the couple planned to remove his kidney so that it could be given to their 25-year-old daughter Sonia, who has also now been charged.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 5:21 pm

Arky says:
November 8, 2022 at 3:55 pm

I’ve noticed the shrinkage of “classics” and other genres in bookshops too. What is dished up as “children’s literature” is also largely garbage as well. Every so often I find something worthwhile in KMart of all places.

The shop he was in reminded me of Barnes and Noble in Boulder. Everything you could want except for something decent to read.

calli
calli
November 8, 2022 5:24 pm

Dr No? Best Bond quote:

I can assure you, my intentions are strictly honourable.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 8, 2022 5:25 pm

With the shenanigans going on around Stairman Dan, could it be that ALP powerbrokers see Labor (without ‘u’) retain a majority but with Andrews being turfed? That may be their ideal scenario, given their buffer in seats held and the toxicity of their leader. An opportunity for a ‘fresh start’ with losing power.

Dot
Dot
November 8, 2022 5:28 pm

His name is…Jack’em?

Zatara
Zatara
November 8, 2022 5:33 pm

JC

The black precincts were ones where the consent decree specifically applied so they got away with murder.

The 2020 election was a bit of a perfect storm scenario with the end of the consent decree, Trump derangement syndrome, and Covid. Covid gave the heavily Dem controlled voting system an excuse and cover for horrendous violations of state voting laws, massive cheating, and a judicial system that refused to hear voter fraud cases due to TDS.

Much of that has been cleaned up and people are going to jail. The deputy director of the City of Milwaukee Election Commission was bagged last week for committing election fraud related to absentee ballots for instance. How much is left remains to be seen but the Dems certainly aren’t getting the free ride to cheat that they once did.

So am I confident? Only in the fact that sheer numbers of votes and close observation of the process should make this one a bit harder to defraud. The fact that the Reps are likely to win big should have the cheaters a bit concerned as well because this time there will actually be real investigations with real repercussions.

I do find it interesting that the Dems who swear the 2020 election was “the most secure election in U.S. history” are suddenly talking about how ripe this one is for fraud. Make of that what you will.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 5:34 pm

Richard Marles has vowed the ADF will get long-range weapons to hold enemies at bay

Albanese government ‘absolutely committed’ to getting defence ‘back on track’: Marles

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Richard Marles has flagged a new national military doctrine of “impactful projection” requiring the Australian Defence Force to be given new firepower to hit adversaries at much longer ranges than it is currently able to do.

The Defence Minister told a conference in Canberra on Tuesday that a looming overhaul of defence priorities would be the most significant in 40 years, providing a “significant reset” of the requirements the nation placed on the ADF.

“Increasingly we’re going to need to think about our Defence Force in terms of being able to provide the country with impactful projection … meaning an ability to hold an adversary at risk much further from our shores, across kind of the full spectrum of proportionate response,” Mr Marles told the Submarine Institute conference.

His comments add to growing expectations that precision guided missiles and long-range drones will be at the top of the government’s shopping list after it receives the final report of its defence strategic review in March, while the army’s planned new infantry fighting vehicles could struggle for funding.

Mr Marles said “impactful projection” was “a different mindset” for the ADF, which had previously been concerned with protecting the continent and maintaining Australia’s position as a good global citizen and significant player in the region.

He said long-range submarines offered “impactful projection more than any other platform that we have within our Defence Force right now”, making Australia’s nuclear submarines partnership with the US and UK vitally important.

Mr Marles revealed he would meet with his US and UK counterparts towards the end of the year to work on the final details of the nuclear submarine partnership ahead of the release of the government’s nuclear submarine taskforce report, which is also due in March.

Chief of Navy Mark Hammond told the same conference that Australia, as an island nation, needed “impactful power projection” to protect the sea lanes and communications networks that sustained the country’s economy.

“You don’t need to invade a country to hold it at risk,” Vice Admiral Hammond said.

Mr Marles said by acquiring nuclear-powered submarines, Australia was “buying a large question mark in our adversaries’ mind”.

Earlier, a Senate estimates committee heard revealed taxpayers paid an extra $591m for the cancelled Attack-class submarine program than previously disclosed, including a $300m writedown in the value of works at Adelaide’s Osborne shipyards, and $291m for Australian shipbuilder ASC to re-employ former staff of French submarine company Naval Group.

Greens senator David Shoebridge said the additional costs had been “ferreted away off the defence budget” to hide the extent of the losses associated with the cancelled submarine project.

“Only in a bungled multi-billion defence project would a government even try to hide a lazy $591 million in additional costs,” he said. “When we pay an extra $591 million for not building submarines, we lose those funds for public housing, schools or income relief.’’

Sorry, Albo, I’ll believe it when I see it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 5:34 pm

WA Health to come after Maccas? I’ve just got used to free market potatoes. There goes my fries.

John Brumble
John Brumble
November 8, 2022 5:35 pm

Our overseers were kicked out and our (well-put-together) lawsuits were rejected on frivolous bases, last time.

But it’s okay this time because we’ll have more of them.

Sorry, Dover. I know that’s not what you said, but do you see how that kinda sounds like a lefty arguing that more government is just the thing to fix things were government has failed in the past?

The fix is in.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 5:36 pm

Senate Estimates always provides the LOLs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 8, 2022 5:39 pm

Oh yea, how did they discourage them?
13/60?
If an off duty cop is lounging round the booth, Shawntavius might think twice about voting?
You get the idea.
It was always rumored by the Demons but never proven to be the case.
Hey, the Repubs coulda had their day in Court, but they signed a consent Order instead.
In other words, it was total bullshit.
The Repubs signing the Consent Order?
Sure, in retrospect, but at the time the guys making the decision didn’t want the bad publicity. perhaps they never considered that it could be extended to 40 years.

Indolent
Indolent
November 8, 2022 5:40 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
November 8, 2022 5:43 pm

With the shenanigans going on around Stairman Dan, could it be that ALP powerbrokers see Labor (without ‘u’) retain a majority but with Andrews being turfed?
They’ll win or lose with Andrews.
Jeff Kennett was in the paper again regarding shenanigans at the Hawthorn Football Club.
A few more days of Kennett and Andrews could win a shock victory.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 8, 2022 5:44 pm

Richard Marles has vowed the ADF will get long-range weapons to hold enemies at bay

Wasn’t the idea about the nuclear subs that they’d be long-range weapons to hold enemies at bay?
I wouldn’t say no to hydrogen bomb-tipped ICBMs, though, if that is what he has in mind.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 8, 2022 5:46 pm

I think she needs to take legal action.

I hope she is awarded massive damages.

  1. Is that the line being pushed by the DNC/MSM talking points? Very inventive, but hardly credible.

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